5 reasons A.K.I is WEAKER than you think

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Broski

Broski

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One weakness I see in a lot of characters the community considers weak is the "useless +1". There are a lot of scenarios that leave you +1 and close enough for your 4f move to hit, but not close enough to convert from that 4f if it actually hits, or even counterhits. I had this issue with Rashid when he came out, and I've seen a lot of it when playing Ryu recently. You basically get to jab-check the opponent into nothing, unless you're willing to gamble 3 Drive bars on the jab hitting. Otherwise, you are simply not in range for your CH confirm to work. It's kinda wack when you see the kinds of +1-frametrap conversions that better characters have, like Cammy getting jabs into 2MP, or Ken getting jabs into 2MK. These are 4f jabs that counterhit convert into normals that are basically guaranteed to be in range, always. It's kind of an obscure power difference, but it's an important one.
@user-wy1et9dk9w
@user-wy1et9dk9w Жыл бұрын
2MP? What the fuck is that? Do you mean CrMP?
@HeartlessSeph
@HeartlessSeph Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what he means. On a numpad, 2 would be down. So 2MP is Down MP, or crMP.
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@@user-wy1et9dk9w It's numpad notation. Most fighting games use it.
@robomojo8639
@robomojo8639 Жыл бұрын
@@user-wy1et9dk9w It's number notation. 2 denoting a down input. So yeah it's CrMp.
@wordcroutons
@wordcroutons Жыл бұрын
​@@user-wy1et9dk9w I think it originates from Anime fighters, possibly because they were more likely to be played on PC for a certain time? The directions correspond to an ordinary keyboard numpad. 2 is straight down, 5 is neutral (no directions), etc. There are times when it's a lot easier to write with and I think it translates better across different franchises. But I still have to whip out an imaginary keyboard whenever I read 623.
@dangbruhsky
@dangbruhsky Жыл бұрын
Reason 1- daigo threatened to bring violence agaisnt my family if i call him wrong again
@Blargel
@Blargel Жыл бұрын
Next video: 5 reasons why A.K.I is more AVERAGE than you think
@TrophyJourney
@TrophyJourney Жыл бұрын
It's a shame because Capcom gave her a plethora of tools but made DAMN SURE none of them was strong!
@TheEleventhdays
@TheEleventhdays Жыл бұрын
Yes that sums it up nicely. When I was playing around with AKI in training, her normals looked so nice, I was hopeful for that st HP the most. But then I started testing her buttons vs DI and DR and well, saying I was disappointed is an understatement. The universal mechanics in this game are too strong for someone to willingly pick a character that has lots of trouble getting around said mechanics. You didn't even mention it but perfect parrying her firebally ensures a drive rush punish from pretty far away. Perfect parrying most of her normals will always ensure a good punish due to how big her hurtboxes and recovery frames are. I'm sorry to say this but she feels like Twelve. A character that struggles against the game itself to win, so its not even a match-up exclusive problem that she has, she has problems with the system mechanics working against all of her tools. So while she isn't completely useless due to what you said in your earlier video, we should bear in mind that while her pressure game is strong by itself, it is vulnerable to parry and DI. I don't see a situation where AKI could be considered a mid tier, I'll have to take Daigo's side here.
@codyxvasco592
@codyxvasco592 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, as a F.A.N.G main, I like hearing that she is bottom tier. it's hard to explain.
@Zhiloaxeman
@Zhiloaxeman Жыл бұрын
She's true to his legacy at least.
@wordcroutons
@wordcroutons Жыл бұрын
I think for some characters, being low tier is part of their charm.
@Creepo_J
@Creepo_J Жыл бұрын
Is aki or fang better
@lazywinmystical8378
@lazywinmystical8378 Жыл бұрын
Why do they both have to be low tier
@xooks3050
@xooks3050 Жыл бұрын
Fang was maybe mid tier tbh. To me he actually had incredibly simple options at my skill level anyway. I feel like his simplicity would only be amplified at high levels of play. Mono Pr for example, was a very good Fang main placing 2nd in cpt I think. Not to mention being the one of the biggest knowledge check characters making the matchup even tougher. Dude was solid-ish
@Crimsontears83
@Crimsontears83 Жыл бұрын
This video is great for helping me with addressing my weakness and have things to be careful of since I'm an Aki main
@Sestze
@Sestze Жыл бұрын
i gasped at JP's st. hp's disjoint, no wonder people mash that after strings are over.
@KTSamurai1
@KTSamurai1 Жыл бұрын
thanks for going over these. this really helps illustrate what is considering powerful in this iteration of the game as well as outlining aki's shortcomings
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 Жыл бұрын
It's stuff like this that inspires me to get in the lab with a character I don't even play and explore their options.
@Boom_OH
@Boom_OH Жыл бұрын
You should.
@dogAB
@dogAB 9 ай бұрын
love the ken player complaining in the chat the moment you even mention jinrai 💀
@SunnyMuffinsRox
@SunnyMuffinsRox Жыл бұрын
damn the both sides on this, i want this guy to be my lawyer
@qmanchu
@qmanchu Жыл бұрын
What an incredible option select. Can't wait for her to win or lose an offline Major soon
@ChaoticSonic400
@ChaoticSonic400 Жыл бұрын
So i guess this is why some japanese players have issues with AKI. Her offense is good, but her defence against universal mechanics is weak and inconsistent. Since all characters have access to said mechanics, it means there will always be a way for someone to steal the round from AKI.
@Swag-Bot-zf5vp
@Swag-Bot-zf5vp Жыл бұрын
The reason i think aki is left -2 on her frame trap is because it becomes a punish only if the opponent is already poisoned which hurts her mor than helps
@Hurtdeer
@Hurtdeer Жыл бұрын
i might be wrong, and i haven't tested it- but i seem to remember from the trailers that the post fireball whip thing wasn't supposed to be a mixup tool, but was designed with the intent to make the bubble pop- largely to catch bad jump in attempts. Mostly there to serve her slow fireball speed, not to help her pressure
@Theorama11
@Theorama11 Жыл бұрын
it doesn't aa.
@okishop3477
@okishop3477 Жыл бұрын
I agree, A.K.I is playing season 2 while some of the cast are still enjoying their (once a year) pre-patch season. I hope the top tiers gets the same (hurt-boxes/recovery/active hits/Plus-frames) treatment as Aki.
@Lyahrklol
@Lyahrklol Жыл бұрын
Her being succetible is the only weakness i like because if you di back the punish is very hard
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo Жыл бұрын
I wonder if poison was supposed to drain drive gauge at certain point in the design. All her absolutely atrocious frame data makes more sense if she was constantly putting people on burnout to get more advantage out of it.
@sm7085
@sm7085 Жыл бұрын
I just hope capcom gives her a reversal for throw + strike at least.
@SunsetVT
@SunsetVT Жыл бұрын
Good breakdown, hopefully the balance patch helps her out a ton, she's super fun but I definitley feel I'm fighting for my life out here
@denniswillis2874
@denniswillis2874 Жыл бұрын
😅
@resolutelament
@resolutelament Жыл бұрын
I really really got triggered when at round start to get around spin knuckle I used her light version of the whip and the Cammy just counter hit from full screen. Wtf is this character?
@rouge-ish324
@rouge-ish324 Жыл бұрын
Imo certain moves should actually be disjoints in SF. Like sure, you can whiff punish Dhalsim's arm and hit him, but in SF you could hit someone's weapon and they'll take damage
@SoMuchNoise1
@SoMuchNoise1 9 ай бұрын
I’m going nuts, what is the song at 12:40? I have definitely heard this song a ton and it’s not clicking. I’m thinking like PS2 era anime style RPG?
@alistairlacaille
@alistairlacaille Жыл бұрын
16:38 She gets hit at a range where her chain doesn't even make contact! Wild...
@rhett331
@rhett331 Жыл бұрын
You didn't even mention her terrible defensive options
@rafdes
@rafdes Жыл бұрын
She’s a mess, just like Zangief. They both don’t play the way SF6 wants you to. They are also super fun, and that’s why I use them, tiers be damned.
@DayFul
@DayFul Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way with Lily, It's frustrating as hell at times (And I'm a salt machine) but there's something appealing about being the oddball underdog. Time has been kind to Lily though her drive rush is one of the most fun yet fair in the game her options are sneaky good.
@chimpmasterflex
@chimpmasterflex Жыл бұрын
I feel if you have to say "they aren't bad compared to the better characters", that still sort of highlights the flaws even further. Because it isn't like she's in idk, sf3 or something, she has to deal with these characters lol. It should've been a 7 reasons video to add how bad her cr.lp is, and how unreliable her anti-airs can be.
@Sanguiniusnz
@Sanguiniusnz Жыл бұрын
I swear the vertical whip has a mind of its own as to what it will and will not hit, tho I suspect a lot of that again comes down to hurt boxes seemingly being all over the show.
@chimpmasterflex
@chimpmasterflex Жыл бұрын
@@Sanguiniusnz Yep and even hk feels super weak to empty jumps. cr. hk seems to be the most consistent and even that you get like nothing off of lol.
@Jonw775
@Jonw775 6 ай бұрын
Those hurt boxes are huge, I thought I had bad timing I had no idea they were THAT big in addition to the recovery frames. I just learned today my whip is hittable:( I should just wave a big "hit me" flag. That being said each of these characters have a style of fighting with a rhythm. Aki is the snake. Play like a snake, wait, shimmy, and when within reach strike, strike retreat, reset. Can't let the panic button win, I loose so many rounds this way:/ I need more practice and to cleanup my inputs since I am a bit sloppy. I played Manon like this for a while, ballerina dancing around using her speed and reach to gracefully move up close, then when in range and all cozy, I judo their butt like a bad date:) Her moves become a bit redundant and bland after a while since her mix ups start to feel like reruns, but not Aki :)
@DRAPEDinDARKNESS
@DRAPEDinDARKNESS Жыл бұрын
5:12 And this is why I’m afraid to do cool combos like this. You’ll go into burnout so quick.
@diegotheolive8329
@diegotheolive8329 Жыл бұрын
I'm suprised you didn't mention her jab range
@PinkLemonInc
@PinkLemonInc Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure bubble pop followup is intended to be a parry countermeasure since she doesn't have different speed fireballs to throw off timing or feints
@AeneasMTG
@AeneasMTG Жыл бұрын
Standing medium kick is a pretty good drive rush check btw, better than standing medium punch for sure.
@Asdfgfdmn
@Asdfgfdmn Жыл бұрын
Can you comment on how Mono played AKI against Luke’s fireball?
@skychaos87
@skychaos87 Жыл бұрын
You have to hard read with the sinister slide and on reaction venomous fang if you see Luke's fireball. However, it only work on Luke cause his projectile is fast and will whiff AKI's V fang. It doesn't work against other slow moving fireballs since Vfang doesn't have projectile invincibility.
@lordronn472
@lordronn472 Жыл бұрын
People say her damage is too low but they don’t understand how she functions as a character: in order for her to do more damage and more hits you have to poison the opponent! She is exactly how she should be
@Crimsontears83
@Crimsontears83 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you said that last part at the end. Everyone I see saying how trash she is always ends their statement with "But then JP and Ken just exist". Well yeah, she's weak compared to the two strongest characters in the game...as is most of the roster. That isn't really a fair comparison. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying you can't compare her to some of what they can do but if that's all your argument is, that she isn't as strong as the strongest characters in the game, then I feel you don't understand what makes the characters unique and are just following what everyone else is saying without really knowing what you're talking about.
@melgibsonero
@melgibsonero Жыл бұрын
So instead of "Why AKI bad?" we got proof that Luke players are carried
@DRAPEDinDARKNESS
@DRAPEDinDARKNESS Жыл бұрын
As a mid casual player and an A.K.I. main… the gameplay for me is very mixed and confusing. I get a lot of perfects, but I also get perfected a lot too😭😭😭 Her corner combos deals huge damage, and her design is superb.
@Leisli
@Leisli Жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention that her raw drive rush normals on block arent that stellar, aside from fwd HK (that can bevdrive impacted) and the only way to kerp the pressure going from those DR normals is cr jab that… sometimes doesnt even reach
@skychaos87
@skychaos87 Жыл бұрын
Her c.lp's reach is pathetic, with other characters after blocking their strings i could counter jab to take back my turn or interrupt for a counter hit combo. But with AKI she would freaking whiff alot of times. Its so frustrating given how bad AKI is at opening up opponent's defense because she can't cancel off a low normal, and they also made her c.lp suck at fishing for counter hits because of the terrible range.
@user-wy1et9dk9w
@user-wy1et9dk9w Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh you can DI fwHK… yeah I was kinda tired of just eating that after DR. Surprised I never thought of it, granted I have spent 0 time labbing AKI.
@shainalang
@shainalang Жыл бұрын
​@@skychaos87My other issue with her 2LP is that even on hit the pushback is so strong you can push someone out of the third hit of your target combo and even 2 hits into say 214HP often leads to whiff (sometimes just one with a lil too much of a gap) which is.. tiresome 💀
@DragynFyre12
@DragynFyre12 Жыл бұрын
Someone make The meme about aki whip extended hurt box clasping arms with Jamie's dive kick extended hurt box
@brent7215
@brent7215 Жыл бұрын
Just love the side switch argument to see it play out. Really highlights how busted JP is comparative to most of the cast.
@Serster13
@Serster13 Жыл бұрын
Whats the background music at the beggining
@AlphaTheMan
@AlphaTheMan Жыл бұрын
AKI's crouching medium punch has more range than it looks like from the single frame because of the way she twists her body forward, compared to Luke and Guile who punch without moving at all, but other than that, yeah, it's not a particularly impressive move, to say the least.
@burningled
@burningled Жыл бұрын
I don't think the hanging-man frametraps are what chaser is for, I think it's more for catching people trying to inch around the fireball in neutral and for directly punishing attempted DIs through EX fireball (as opposed to skedaddling with EX slide cancel), and I'd personally like to see it be better at those. AKI has tools to earn spaced fireballs with frame advantage that kind of make it unnecessary as a way to catch mashing, and I'd rather see those improved (like stMP and crMP as mentioned, pls capcom i beg of ye).
@legbert123
@legbert123 Жыл бұрын
Im glad you come out against Daigo vs AKI. She aint the shit daigo says daigo thought guile was AKI level.
@krypticavalanch
@krypticavalanch Жыл бұрын
other issues - poison bloom is only used by 1 special (hp lash) midscreen without meter or pc. or hp tc. in corner 2 (hp/mp lash) or coward crouch punch move in juggles. damage midscreen no poison bloom sucks. only special to poison mid combo can only be cancled from 2 of 15 button options (buttons/down buttons/ uniques) 5hk or 2mp without meter or pc. most common comboes leads to +4 end forcing 2lp into hp lash. 6hk, cck, oh. anti airs are janky. poison has a timer on them. fb seemed good but no varying speeds means easy pp. defense is basically non existent. os her od slide plus pc damage AND doesnt hit. loses to 1/2 options in corner that leads to repeat scenario. tech beats throw by pushing throw for space - loses to meaty and neutral jump. block loses to throw plus keep getting pressured. od slide loses to light attack os or fast reaction, side switches beats meaty and jump button (non os) but leaves you negative frame WITHOUT having hit them. theres no offence fear as worst case she escapes with u unharmed.
@Cassapphic
@Cassapphic Жыл бұрын
I feel jinrai being so much better than aki's fireball interactions is more a case of ken being strong rather than aki being weak, although I feel the way they nerf jinrai is just less pushback so you dont get as big a punish as drive rush punsihes that AKI's is kinda forced to have to make it punishable because of the pushback.
@doctordice2doctordice210
@doctordice2doctordice210 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't want it nerf-ed nor the cool side switch combo he did with JP The core problem with ken isn't his special strengths, it's the fact that he's very well rounded while having those special strengths (same with Jp) Like Why HE gets a fire-ball confirm into a drive rush combo and ryu doesn't is simply beyond me lmao
@zhaf
@zhaf Жыл бұрын
18:13 can’t AKI coward crouch command grab to beat DI?
@sparrowhawk1312
@sparrowhawk1312 Жыл бұрын
It's still a hard read because people can delay jab to deal with the grab
@johnsyborg
@johnsyborg Жыл бұрын
Love the thumbnail ❤
@Rodniikun
@Rodniikun Жыл бұрын
Love the Gravity Rush music
@TheProfessionalPR20
@TheProfessionalPR20 Жыл бұрын
Anti air hitbox it's pretty sad too
@WhataFruit
@WhataFruit Жыл бұрын
nice gravity rush ost 👍
@chrispharmd2077
@chrispharmd2077 Жыл бұрын
Oh snap! Was that Diaphone!?
@danielsjogren4496
@danielsjogren4496 Жыл бұрын
Ronald McDonald insanity ❤ 🎶🎵
@JS-zz9lg
@JS-zz9lg Жыл бұрын
Season 2 im playing her after the buffs!
@madolcheprocione4389
@madolcheprocione4389 Жыл бұрын
Gravity Rush music!
@SimulyaFamily
@SimulyaFamily Жыл бұрын
how did you turn on hurt box on practice mode?
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo Жыл бұрын
he was looking at a video
@dingusdangus9299
@dingusdangus9299 Жыл бұрын
The ol switcheroo
@nickfilmaker
@nickfilmaker Жыл бұрын
Wait! The animal in the tubnail is a capivara????
@StaccatoFry
@StaccatoFry Жыл бұрын
Hamster
@cecil6075
@cecil6075 Жыл бұрын
as an AKI player: everything aki does is not only fair, but should be way better. thank you diago
@Luchamasterfit
@Luchamasterfit Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the change I think that would really help her pressure game while also fitting the poison theme is that toxic blossom procs break armor. Once she has you poisoned, DI is no longer an option. Her fireball combo enders have a mix up to beat DI, and she gains some actual options vs armored moved in general. I'd like a couple things for her but this seems like a good place to start
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo Жыл бұрын
she has combos that lead back into poison. That would be a really bad precedent
@Luchamasterfit
@Luchamasterfit Жыл бұрын
@@HellecticMojo that shouldnt present an issue. You can play passively if you get poisoned, DR her to escape pressure, or attempt reversals etc. Then she is back to being abhorrently weak to DI.
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo Жыл бұрын
@@Luchamasterfit No. you reached too far trying to make blossom break armor. She has multiple ways to trigger blossom while every other character need specific callouts. DI needs to be a callout answered by other big callout, not just some basic pressure and confirms. If they implement what you are suggesting then she can never be buffed ever for being a character that completely invalidate a universal mechanic.
@Luchamasterfit
@Luchamasterfit Жыл бұрын
@@HellecticMojo she isnt completely invalidating it, she's gaining an advantageous state against it during her two stage offense, to make up for the fact that she is sufficiently disadvantaged against it in the first stage of said offense. She already suffers around the universal mechanics having weak drive checks, weak neutral DR offensive situations, and no reversal to counter DR. It seems perfectly fine that she can put herself into a state that gives her the edge on this plane and forces the enemy into assessing the risk reward of trying to knock off the poison or play passively to run it out
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo Жыл бұрын
@@Luchamasterfit dude, she blossoms off of single button. What you are doing is looking at Ireland having no standing military force and that the solution they need for self defense is to start with ICBMs. Two wrongs don't make a right and armor breaking blossom is most definitely in the wrong.
@jacowboy
@jacowboy Жыл бұрын
that's not a "disjointed hitbox" (on luke & guile)... it's just a very nice privileged long ranged hitbox. For it to be "disjointed" it can't be "jointed" to the hurtbox... pretty common sense innit?
@c9mendoza
@c9mendoza Жыл бұрын
I haven't looked at the differences in hitboxes so that genuinely is ... A "choice" by the developers 😢. Though I will say that Aki does have some counters to DI on special cancel callout! She can L cruel fate or stance command throw as ways beat DI. Only prob with those are that the risk reward feels pretty bad if you guess wrong on their DI attempt. L fate will leave you safe but minus OB in grab range. And stance command throw loses to delay jab OS. Can't wait for the patch! 😂
@shainalang
@shainalang Жыл бұрын
Hilariously, simply entering Sinsiter Slide makes DI whiff right over you on at least a couple characters. Found out by happy accident but I've kept it in mind ever since. When in doubt, just lie down lmao
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo Жыл бұрын
SF6 has a really bad disconnect between hitbox and visuals in general. I really hope Devs address some of these issues eventually.
@HatsonFGC
@HatsonFGC Жыл бұрын
I don't believe her 2MP is designed to do the same as the "standard" 2MPs in the game. I just don't think she was designed with a "standard" 2MP in mind at all. It's definitely a downside not having a "normal" 2MP. Her 2MP is more like Marisa's in design. They're both slower and further range cancelable pokes. And for AKI it allows for better combo extensions than her other cancelable medium, 5MP. So yes, her 2MP isn't going to compare to most others. Also when looking at disjoints, you should've looked at AKI's actual disjoints. Her 5MK, 5HP and 6HP are all great disjoints. 5MK is a good poke, 5HP is a hit confirmable KD + poison that turned into a launcher with poison on, so it's a pretty good tool in neutral. And her 6HP is a far range poke with good hitboxes and somewhat hit confirmable into Supers as well. Being weak to DI in neutral due to lack of cancelability is a weakness she shares with DJ, yeah.
@codyxvasco592
@codyxvasco592 Жыл бұрын
@JoeyCentral
@JoeyCentral Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video "5 reasons why Chun Li is weaker than you think"?
@yeehaw8089
@yeehaw8089 Жыл бұрын
why would he do that?
@JoeyCentral
@JoeyCentral Жыл бұрын
@@yeehaw8089 For the same reason he did it for AKI...
@blackmanta2527
@blackmanta2527 Жыл бұрын
I see what you did there 🤝
@skychaos87
@skychaos87 Жыл бұрын
Chun Li has some bs hit/hurt box like Luke and JP. If anything, there should be a 10 reasons why Chun Li is stronger than you think video lol. There is a low player base for Chun Li but more and more Chun Li are making it far into the tournaments. More pros are starting to rank Chun Li at S tier now.
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 Жыл бұрын
@@JoeyCentral He isn't planning on maining Chun competitively. He IS planning on maining Aki competitively. There are plenty of actual chun mains who could do a better job of that.
@SamLikes2Mash
@SamLikes2Mash Жыл бұрын
Local youtuber turned doomer after having Legend rank robbed from him
@ZhuShisubi
@ZhuShisubi Жыл бұрын
I am not going to go into detail about how this is wrong, but this character is very strong. People are using her completely wrong. She will win a major. Even some of the best players are using her wrong. My win rate with AKI is ridiculous, I completely demolish Ken, Ryu, Sim and Gief with her but for the life of me Blanka is a problem. She is a Ken killer for sure.
@DjOneOne
@DjOneOne Жыл бұрын
algo boosting 🫡
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