5 Reasons I Sold My Corvette and Bought a Porsche

[@MWS1960]

I’ve owned 104 cars in 40 years, but buying a naturally aspirated 911 and that flat six engine….is the best car I’ve ever owned. Porsche’s are absolutely awesome…no radio required in a 911 😂

[@charliemanger]

Right on! Those NA flat sixes have such an iconic sound!

[@0omegaxprime1]

5 star review you are absolutely right.

[@andrewyates2934]

Love hearing other people’s reasons for owning a Spyder. In 2022, this is a unicorn configuration..NA/RWD/mid-engine/convertible/manual…add in GT tuning and lusty aesthetic for good measure.

[@charliemanger]

Exactly! My dad had a 2016 981 Spyder and ever since, I wanted one. Then when they announced the Spyders for the 718s, I knew this was the last shot to get one! I know they’re still great cars, but I just can’t do the 4-cyl. 718s, so the Spyder/GT4/GTS is the only way to go!

[@BatDimen]

Agreed, that this is one of the best looking cars especially in person.

[@leonardoluc6362]

Agree & thanks spot on. My fav car by far the 718 Spyder omg whats not to like, speedster humps, 4 liter mid engine 450 hp, manual, Porsche quality built by Porsche Motorsport in Zuffenhausen as all GT3 & GT4’s are built. I want one! Not as fast as the Corvette agree but road handling by far superior as it should for the money.

[@charliemanger]

Absolutely, it's definitely just a lot more special!

[@tomlee45]

This is still the car I want to buy, been look for the best deals on this. Must get this in white. It's so fire!

[@charliemanger]

Right on! You wouldn’t be disappointed!

[@haocao1516]

Porsche just cancelled the 718 cayman T, spyder, and GT4 models, and I guess those 3 models are gone forever (because 718 EV is coming on 2024).....so, you best option will be a used spyder, however, its more expensive than a new one.

[@charliemanger]

@@haocao1516 Unfortunately, that's the truth. I'm glad I was able to get mine before they stopped production!

[@neofaktion]

I have a base 718 Cayman, and it feels like such a special and well-designed car.

[@landonbarretto4933]

I have a 2023 being delivered this month. No doubt the design is amazing.

[@charliemanger]

Absolutely!

[@tet2mor282]

So… did you get a new exhaust system yet? If not, get the jcr. You’ll love it

[@charliemanger]

Not yet! Working on it!

[@tedkramer1208]

I'm also a HUGE Scuderia fan. Forza. Hoping they do well this year, especially since the release of the car was today. I also love targa style cars because they look good with the roof on or off. I had a black on tan C4 targa, and liked it alot, but it was too structurally unsound with the roof off to be honest. Long time ago. I also liked the C7s and DESPISE the look of the C8s. The inside is nasty.

[@charliemanger]

Essere Ferrari!

[@jsmooth2057]

This was the most emotional comparisons ever

[@hbullock]

Love my spyder. Scoring an MSRP spyder is indeed a coup. Hope you’re not getting too much hate for switching. Fan bases can be brutal both ways. lol

[@charliemanger]

I've got a bunch of friends with Corvettes, but they're all just great car people! No hate here! (but yes, after being on a few Corvette forums, I totally understand what you mean about some people being brutal LOL)

[@newhirunworn1]

I traded my A90 Supra and FK8 Type R for 981 Spyder. Same color in and out as yours. I grew up with multiple S2000s and this is a big boy S2000 for me. Love it.

[@charliemanger]

Awesome! My dad had a white/red 981 Spyder back in 2016. SUCH a good car!

[@clu4u]

Mine is GT Silver over garnet red, never sell her!

[@newhirunworn1]

@@clu4u I traded it for a GTR

[@barryrodgers3039]

I"m on the waiting list for a 718 Spyder at the same dealer in Huntsville. What are your thoughts on the carbon buckets? My SA is really trying to talk me out of them but I think they would contribute to making the drive more special. A drive in a car like this should be a event.

[@charliemanger]

Carbon buckets are a MUST for me. Is your sales rep Bradley? He tried to talk me out of them too! 😂 They’re very comfortable and look amazing. They’re probably not the best choice if you plan to daily drive the car or take really long road trips, but for making a car feel special, they’re EXCELLENT.

[@charliemanger]

Check out my account on Instagram or Facebook if you’re ever out at local car meets and I’ll let you check them out!

[@barryrodgers3039]

@@charliemanger Yes, Bradley is my sales rep.

[@charliemanger]

He’s a really nice guy, but just pay very close attention to the paperwork and order form. He really doesn’t listen to customers very well and has a very poor attention to detail.

[@mpp9964]

Your list of reasons very much mirrors my own reasons for purchasing this car.

[@charliemanger]

Awesome! I love the car. Couldn’t be happier!

[@exoticarauto]

I had the same car same spec but the 981 car. Did the Dundon headers and the car sounded like a CGT. Will be getting a 718 Spyder soon.

[@charliemanger]

Awesome! I'll definitely be getting an exhaust to get rid of the particulate filters and main muffler, but I might leave the headers/cats alone for a while (just while it's under warranty). The 718 sounds decent, but is SO much better with any aftermarket setup.

[@mark5368]

I never owner a corvette although I liked the C7 better. It didn’t have all of those forced angles and creases like so many modern cars, plus it’s built by General Motors. With that said I did order, two months apart, a 2021 c8 and a Porsche. I got the corvette first and didn’t like it. That long console with the tiny buttons was ridiculous and again all the angles was a turn off. I sold it to some schmuck for more than I paid for it. I got the 2021 Porsche several months later, my third one, and I’m staying with the brand. I love the timeless, sculpted design which doesn’t age in my opinion.

[@charliemanger]

Awesome! I also really like the racing history with Porsche. They have decades of winning race heritage and it really shows in the quality of the cars.

[@waltvancourt5052]

Congratulations, one drive of a porsche got me, just traded my 2018 cayman gts for a sypder. So BADASS looking from the back ! IMSA ROLEX 24 DAYTONA, end of January, will porsche win and beat covette again !

[@charliemanger]

Awesome! That was why I went with a Spyder over a GT4. They're both FANTASTIC cars, but since I don't track this car, I wanted the convertible for those long drives on nice days (want to hear that flat 6). The looks are a plus too!

[@GethinJames]

There's only 1 reason. Porsche > Chevy I've got a March build and April delivery allocation... super excited. And you can't get one for around 100k. They are closer to 140k with ADM. Plus or minus 10k

[@charliemanger]

Nice! Good luck with the build! I guess every dealership is different. I was fortunate enough to get mine at MSRP (no markup! woo!) about 6 months ago, but my build ended up around $120k. I tend to just throw around the number "100k" because it's simpler, but I totally get that they're going for a lot more!

[@jeffscott2246]

Good looking Spyder! Has it been sitting in inventory awhile? Surprising they sold it at MSRP! Do they have another one? :)

[@charliemanger]

Thanks! No I ordered it last December, then it was delivered in June. I was surprised too about the MSRP! The dealer is pretty selective about allocations, so I think they knew I was ordering it for the long run and not wasting an allocation just trying to flip it. I couldn’t be happier with the car though!

[@RunnerArch]

@@charliemanger Same here. My Spyder was purchased at MSRP as this dealership which is also very selective with their allocations and you have to be a trusted long time buyer.

[@charliemanger]

Unfortunately for me, I didn’t have a buying history yet, so I was afraid I wouldn’t get the car, but I went by there every once in a while to talk cars with the staff and I guess they saw that I was a “true car enthusiast” (not someone just trying to flip the car). I got a call less than a week after I put my name on the list to submit my order! Couldn’t be happier!

[@jeffscott2246]

@@charliemanger I ended up getting a spec just like yours, except platinum satin wheels, out of Ft Lauderdale. 10k over . . . Love it though! 🤙🏾

[@tet2mor282]

Did you change the exhaust system yet? Get jcr. You’ll love it

[@charliemanger]

Not yet! It REALLY needs it. I was debating between Soul, Kline, and JCR.

[@tet2mor282]

@@charliemanger can’t beat soul. The best for your Buck. Kline Is great too… I had Akrapovic but swapped it to JCR. Absolutely love it

[@charliemanger]

@@tet2mor282 Do you happen to have any videos of the JCR?

[@VienQuach]

Looks like a baby Carrera GT which is too expensive nowadays. 718 spyder is on my list. Now driving a Model Y Performance and 2 other SUV.

[@charliemanger]

Nice! I've had the car for about 8 months now and it has far exceeded expectations. Go order one before they discontinue it!

[@clu4u]

My garage has a 981 Spyder and a Model Y P, I’m blessed.

[@mwh3227]

Beautiful car!

[@charliemanger]

Thank you!

[@Philippe275]

did you spec it or picked it off the lot? in this market either is lucky

[@charliemanger]

I spec’d the car out myself and ordered it last December. It got built and showed up in June!

[@franzhuber7361]

There’s not THE typical Porsche-Driver.

[@charliemanger]

Solid point!

[@ericmcgrane8000]

Production tip: You need a lapel/lavalier microphone in the car. Audio is bad. Nice car.

[@charliemanger]

Thanks for the tip! I’ll have to check those out.

[@F510C]

C8 Z06 Cov...too bad it's more than a Sypder these days

[@scottl.6721]

I just got a very similar spec 2022 Spyder and sold my C8 for it.

[@charliemanger]

Awesome! I’m not a huge fan of base C8s. They’re great cars, no doubt, TONS of value for money, but it’s just not special. The Z06 is a different car entirely, but they’re as impossible to get as a GT3! The Spyder is one of my favorite cars for a very long time, and I don’t see ever selling it!

[@scottl.6721]

@@charliemanger When I drove the C8 one Sunday afternoon and saw 6 of them within a couple of hours I decided these C8’s were all too common. That added to my decision to sell the C8 and get on a list to get a Spyder with manual transmission.

[@charliemanger]

Also (you should never buy a car purely for resale) but eventually “regular” C8s will come back to reality with used prices. I think the Spyder/GT4s are special cars (especially the manuals!) that will hold/increase in value in the future. Although, I love this car so much, I don’t think I’d sell it at any price!

[@SenszR]

Sick car

[@charliemanger]

Thanks!

[@craigthescott5074]

Personality you couldn’t give me a 911 I think the body style is ugly and outdated. Porsche in general are overpriced for performance compared to a Corvette especially a Z06. Right now nothing compares to a C8 Z06.

[@charliemanger]

The C8 Z06 is pretty awesome! GM finally put a really unique, exotic, special engine in the car. The problem with the Z06 though is that it’s just as unattainable as any regular exotic. You can’t get one even if you wanted to and dealers are charging OUTRAGEOUS markups, so most Z06s are well into the $200k’s. And that kind of money opens the door to a ton of actual exotics.

[@craigthescott5074]

@@charliemanger everything you mentioned is true Charlie but the prices will come down in the future.

[@charliemanger]

I sure hope so. I definitely would buy a Z06, but I don’t see them being able to produce enough cars fast enough for them to drop back to even MSRP. The only downside to the Z06 (and every C8) is no manual option. That was a huge bummer for me. Stats are great, but 99.999% of sports car owners will never even use 10% of a cars potential, so for me it’s all about driver involvement and fun!

[@craigthescott5074]

@@charliemanger yep I agree I lm a big manual guy too but I’ll tell you I’m very impressed by my C8 HTC Z51 it’s awesome I can only imagine how fast the Z06 is. We may have to wait a few years for the Z06 to be reasonable in price.

[@vikd4292]

better comparison would be against c8.. the c7 is a very old car and much cheaper

[@charliemanger]

That's true! Unfortunately, the C8 isn't available in a manual, so they're tough to compare together as pure drivers cars. If the C8 was offered in a manual, I would have bought one of those over my C7!

[@jrparker4804]

Bottom line is this Porsche cost as much as a C8 but is half as cool. Just not as cool looking as a new C8 in my opinion. You should have stayed with Corvette 😇. But hey, it’s still nice and if you’re happy with it, it’s your car!

[@charliemanger]

Only dealbreaker for me on the C8 is no manual transmission! Id consider a Z06, but they’re unobtainable unfortunately. I’ll get another corvette one of these days! They’re fantastic cars to use for track days. Very cheap to fix and mod!

[@kokidchaz4790]

Porche cost more to maintain but the community for porche is better

[@charliemanger]

Absolutely. That’s the main reason I’m going to buy another corvette eventually for track days. You simply can’t beat it for modding & power value.

[@0728451031548270jeff]

I've had my 718 Cayman S for nearly 5 years and it's the best car I've ever owned. I drive it once a week and my wife doesn't quite get the picture. Like you each time I get in the car it's a new experience and it puts a smile on my face. The power aspect is totally a non starter, this car has 350 hp and truly on the street it's unusable and will put you in jail. I never would track the car so the power is irrelevant. I would love to get a GT4RS, but forget about it sooooo much over MSRP. I've owned 3 Corvettes, my first 1 was a '64 silver blue coupe, 327 365 hp 4 speed when I was 18 years old, saved for years to get the ride. I beat the hell out of that car, but what would expect from an 18 year old with 365 hp, but never went to jail! I had 2 others a '66 and a '68, then family interfered with my car thing. Corvettes are great, every time I see a C8 I like it less, way too ass end heavy for me, but certainly not up to the level of construction as the Porsche. Just some miscellaneous ramblings from an old guy!

[@charliemanger]

Very true! I think the 718 chassis is one of the best platforms out there for sports cars. Extremely well balanced, forgiving, and engaging. I’ll admit, I was a little disappointed about the 718s going to turbo’d 4s, but only because of the sound. 300+ hp is plenty for the street, but I missed Porsches iconic flat 6 soundtrack! Either way, fantastic car! Glad to hear you still enjoy yours after years of ownership!

[@0728451031548270jeff]

@@charliemanger To me it's the best Porsche buy, made to the same standards as all other Porsches. As far as the sound is concerned, a buddy of mine has a 2022 Boxster GTS and we went for a ride with the topdown, unless screaming to redline the sound difference in comparison to my car was minor at best. Others have a different opinion, I also have sport exhaust, I was sold at first start up!

[@michaelking4578]

I've been looking at a Corvette vs. a Porsche and found your video. I'm in North Alabama too. Working based out of Huntsville. Love the Porsche. To me yours looks a lot like a Speedster. I have a friend out in California that has a 1969 blue 912 and a 1995 silver 993 Speedster. To me the engineering and design and build quality make a Porsche worth keeping for life. I'm looking at a 987.1 Cayman manual. Those can be had for less than 30k now.

[@charliemanger]

Awesome! I'm in Huntsville as well. Hope to see you out one of these days at a Cars & Coffee or some other meet! I'm a big fan of the 987's since they still had a flat 6. I was a little disappointed when the first 718's came out because they switched to turbo'd 4 cylinders, but the GTS, GT4, and Spyders fixed that! It's definitely a car I've got no intention of ever selling, and as much as I liked my Grand Sport, this car is a MUCH better driver's car.

[@michaelking4578]

@@charliemanger I'll get mine and start going to those meet ups in Huntsville. I'll say hi when that happens. Hopefully I'll find a 987 soon. I too love the flat six. I'm not a fan of turbo four cylinders.

[@BubuBarong]

A stock C7 better than a stock GT4/Spyder on track? Really?! No way... Thanks for the video, cheers from Italy

[@charliemanger]

Cheers! Definitely not a base C7, a Grand Sport! Check out Car & Driver's Lightning Lap list for every car they've tested at VIR here in the states. Also, check the Nurburgring times. Definitely a base C7 isn't quicker than a GT4/Spyder on track, but the C7 Grand Sport, Z06, and ZR-1's are extremely capable track cars.

[@BubuBarong]

@@charliemanger the Z06 and the ZR1 are different beasts compared to the Grand Sport. As a track car, I still doubt that a Grand Sport is as good as a GT4. Anyway, keep up the good work!

[@Tothefloor]

Girl car.

[@mikewatch1487]

Drink the kool aid those cars are over priced and boring design from 2001. Haven’t owned a Porsche since 1980. No reason to with all the other cars out there. Not a corvette person until the C8 hit the streets.

[@charliemanger]

Solid point!