5 REASONS NOT TO BUY A HELLCAT OR SCAT PACK YET... BEWARE!

[@RichfromVirginiaBeach]

I bought my 2016 skat pack, 6 speed, shaker from the show room floor with no mark up. Now it's 8 years old with 21,000 miles. She's a keeper!

[@bradbrinegar1419]

im looking at a 16 right now, what did you pay for it back then. local dealer has one for $27k with 50k miles

[@RichfromVirginiaBeach]

@@bradbrinegar1419 I paid $49,500 from the showroom floor. It was not a good price then but a pretty good price considering how prices have gone through the roof recently. Without seeing yours, it sounds like a good price if it has been maintained and owned by someone over 30 years old.

[@poker5295]

I’m the new car manager for a Dodge Dealership. I have 5 R/T Daytona’s left that I’m selling for $11,000 off MSRP. No add ons, no bullshit. Located in NM, 2 hours away from Amarillo TX

[@Yg.71112]

@@poker5295 what year ?? Are the Daytonas

[@poker5295]

@@Yg.71112 They are all brand new, 2023 models.

[@smaze1782]

@TheRealCatofso?

[@EC-ol8nz]

5.7l have better internals and are used on the trucks. I want a car that will last years. I really want a 5.7L natural aspirated charger or Chrysler 300 full Leather. What model would that be do you have any? Thanks Don’t want the 6.4L

[@smaze1782]

@TheRealCatof yup. But you’re assuming that this car is a victim of that. What if it’s in perfect condition? Sure, it might not be but I’d bet it’s in pristine condition.

[@BrotherKellerman]

You could wait for sure, but if this price is right and you’re in a position to get one, then go for it. I got a 2022 hellcat back in February with 2k miles on it for about 65k

[@snippyduda]

What apr tho

[@BrotherKellerman]

@@snippyduda 5.8

[@q6053]

I mean , yea , if the price is right. But what about the reliability that a lot of these last few years been having ? So that's scary too.

[@osvalditochirino3428]

They are way cheaper even carvana it’s cheaper and lower miles

[@smacdiesel]

My Scat is paid for so I'm going to just keep it and ignore the market conditions. It is amazing how the desire for the next purchase never really goes away. I love my wide body B5 blue Challenger and will just enjoy it and try to be content. Thanks for another relevant video!!

[@subaruamazon]

07 camry 150k. i want a 15 to 17 camry. it never ends. we are defective humans. lol.

[@Jmarzx]

@@smacdiesel nothing wrong with that at all ; now you can come acrosss a way to make more money so you can buy a new one without trading it in patience always wins !

[@threehemis5566]

I'd keep that car forever and try to resist temptation to buy something else. It is funny how that temptation to into something different, perhaps better, never goes away. Back in the day I had a B5 dodge charger SRT8 superbee and I regret that car sale more than anything and it was an 08! I had a 14 SRT8 Challenger and the 08 is the 1 I miss the most and look back on fondly. Once it's gone, it's gone!

[@yeedbottomtext7563]

Man I can’t wait for the day my scat is paid off

[@yeedbottomtext7563]

Been throwing an extra $250 on top of each payment to speed it up a little 💀

[@greganderson1989]

Everyone should consider the quality of these last cars suck! It’s called employee lay off payback!

[@SRT_Estrella]

How do you know? I'm buying a last call I'm just hoping you're wrong lol

[@LordHollow]

​@@SRT_EstrellaCheck reputable videos on KZbin or Google. The last calls are down bad.

[@Sense_IsCommon]

@@SRT_EstrellaJust make sure it’s in good condition when you get it and take care of it. Don’t burn any tires the first 1500 miles

[@naturallawman2965]

​@@Sense_IsCommon this. Breakage can happen, but horsing around will age the car rapidly.

[@Ruphus7]

No one is sabotaging vehicles. I don't know why these youtubers keep repeating that nonsense

[@thedudeactual]

No BS…THANK YOU for being a voice of reason. This video literally just kept me from making a bad decision.

[@PLADProdandArtistMgt]

I'm so glad I decided to pull the trigger on a 2016 Hellcat this past February. I did my homework, the car is in amazing condition and I got it for half the price of a new one without lot rot and shaugty workmanship. Another great and informative video Brad!! Thank you.

[@Mainecracka]

I really enjoy that you would take time out of your life to help someone who’s uncomfortable with the car buying process and help them. Amazing. Definitely worth a sub

[@agentd36]

I contacted a Dodge dealership in KY this week, I offered to buy a new WB HC at their asking “sale price.” The salesman with only 3 months of experience, told me that’s not actual sale price, that’s the price if I qualified for 100% of their discounts. The car has been on the lot for 250+ days. No one has even tried to contact me since I told him no sale. He admitted it’s unfair how they show a sale price that no one would ever qualify for. He said they do that so out of state customers will contact them. I had to go through a short list of questions such as do you own a farm, have you ever driven a tractor trailer, where do you work, is your wife brunette or blonde, my ZIP code… blah blah blah

[@naturallawman2965]

Games. All games. Stuff like that is why I'm still Hemi-less.

[@subaruamazon]

how perposterous. why do you have to own a farm to buy a challenger? supply demand economic system is broken. tons of cars. few buyers. no price drop. how will this play out?

[@subaruamazon]

@@naturallawman2965 as long as you are not heartless. lol. when will the games stop? huge supply. limited demand no price adjustments. system is broken.

[@marksix3027]

Had that same con played on me for a ZL1 Camaro at a stealership in Michigan. Had a good price but when I called about it they said that was for GM employees only.

[@subaruamazon]

@@marksix3027 former car saleman. it all boils down to cost of the car. tell em you ll give them 1000 over invoice and you want to see invoice. no doc prep. no nothiing.

[@keithwilliams2766]

Thanks for updating and educating me on this constantly changing market. I bought my 2018 Scat Pack in 2019 for $34K and have kept it all this time. I thought about trading for a Hellcat down the road but never did. I had a private offer of $38K for my SP a couple of years ago, but held on because of the insane amount of money the market was demanding for new Hellcats and Scats. Now it looks like it's back to being typical for what Dodge products should be. I guess I'll just keep washing and waxing my Scat, be content but at the same time wonder what it would be like to have a Redeye in my garage. I'm not participating in this effed-up market.

[@javierosorio5169]

@@keithwilliams2766 I thought I was the only one that got a good deal. I got my fully loaded 2019 scat pack with 3,000 miles for 34 grand. I’m almost done with the bill , down to 12,000 grand , and she will be mine.

[@keithwilliams2766]

@@javierosorio5169 I had to travel from Tennessee to New Jersey to buy mine. Octane Red with a Shaker hood, 4,400 miles. It seemed like it was priced $3000-$4000 below what similar Scats were selling for across the country. Anyway, I'm glad I drove 700 miles and made it happen. I don't want to buy a car that far away again.

[@OyeBelafonte]

I called a dealership to inquire about the last charger and challenger scats/hellcats. I asked if the prices were flexible and they said no, they were already discounted. He tried to sell me on the idea that alot of people wanted the cars and they wouldn't be there long.I explained I wasn't in a rush and I was waiting for the pricing to bottom out. They been calling at least twice a week for a month now. They are desperate. Like you said things are only going to get worse with the way the economy is going. People cant afford to live, nobody is going to buy overpriced vehicles. I didn't even think about all the repos coming down the line. Your negotiation power as a buyer is only going to improve over time.

[@SoundExtreme1]

Unfortunately, if you want a Scat Pack, the inventory isn't overloaded. In my area there are 2 dealers and only 3 total in inventory, NEW and USED. This advice he's giving is good sound advice if you're looking at a R/T model but probably not for Scat Pack.

[@ThinkingBrother1]

I bought a 2020 Granite Grey 392 way in 2021, and I love it.....Always keep it up to par with the oil changes etc.....I'm planning on buying a Jailbreak Redeye down the road...waiting for the prices to go down... there are a lot of unsold 392s and Hellcats out there.....

[@chrislitw3911]

OC motivator...your spot on!... even if things straighten out I still wouldn't buy a 2023 because of quality issues beyond the normal stallantis quality problems....great cars that they made into junks as they closed out the hemi

[@avp2005]

2023 new Challenger Scat Pack, $57,720 msrp and got it for $43,250. Had to pay $250 for tint but no other fees or markups. Pretty loaded with the HK sound system. Had o drive down to Houston from DFW but worth it. Did everything on phone and email prior to showing up . Deals are out there just might have to look outside your area

[@ChaseJ2297]

Hey bro can you tell me how you worked that out? Im also in DFW looking to buy a ‘23 wide-body charger in Oklahoma

[@kevinalexander8708]

Between the insurance, these ridiculous interest rates and the fact that I'm in Michigan near Detroit.Faced, they steal those cars like it's Going Out of style.Your advice is on point

[@batshtcrzypsn722]

Well they were pretty motivated when I bought my challenger scat pack plus a month and a half ago. MSRP was 59.9k, they had it marked down to 49.9k and I talked them down to 45k out the door. Interest was a little high but I got on a biweekly payback plan with 50$ additional every 2 weeks. Feels okay overall and I really love the car.

[@ronhamm]

I haven’t purchased new since 2002. I got tired of taking a beating when driving off the lot! A three or four old vehicle can be found for 40 to 50 percent less.

[@danielpoko]

Not anymore Buckaroo!

[@joemilek8627]

Had a 2015 scat challenger ...notice HAD great car but to easy to steal.. been a moparian for most of my 61 years .. but when it takes less than a minute to steal a car that tells me that product security is low on the list . Definitely there not one more stellantis product in my garage or driveway ever again 😢

[@Ruphus7]

The problem is when you have a popular vehicle that hasn't changed much in over 10 years. Ford Mustangs had the same problem in the 80's. It's on you to keep your vehicle safe. No automaker makes a great anti thief device

[@jittychitty]

But first, buy food, water, silver, guns etc...

[@JoeSmith-v7o]

Yep. Silver is cheap...for now. Once they can no longer manipulate the price silver is going to have some huge gains. And 2A Accessories will allow you to take food & water from those who are allergic to the 2A if it comes to that.

[@yeedbottomtext7563]

It’s not gonna happen

[@chrisvig123]

I’ll agree on the food part

[@ryanjones829]

Love the videos! Im still waiting for both reasons financially and interest rates. I hope when im ready that I catch the market on the low and it looks like we are headed in that direction. Let those dealerships choke on the inventory!

[@HaitianTrini]

Got an 2019 RT. I'm definitely waiting for the right time to upgrade to a Hellcat. Just got all my credit cards paid off 🙌🏽 so I have extra monthly funds to add to my savings

[@lucidethos]

I have an e93 build that I absolutely love, but I am saving and waiting to pull the trigger on a plum crazy challenger. Tell me when Brad

[@frankvanfossan]

Not Brad....I do realize what you're after is limited in stock...but end of year is where I am thinking the sweet spot will be....^..^

[@subaruamazon]

luv what you have. you are lucky and blessed to have that.

[@psycoe]

Im looking at Charger Widebody Super Bees. The prices have been dropping like crazy. Some have been on lots for almost a year. I'm doing what you said, selling my Corvette now and going to wait until prices really bottom out.

[@WILewis4]

The deals are already here. I bought my 2023 scat pack brand new last month for 15% off. $60,920 MSRP, I paid $51,250. You are correct sir! Anyone not getting 15% off is nuts. Any new challenger out there has been sitting for 7 months..min!

[@FlightRobXIII]

Not wide body, right?

[@WILewis4]

@@FlightRobXIII correct. Narrow body, 6 speed, dynamics pack

[@demiurgeobzen327]

This is what ive been saying for months. Im waiting until next year to pull the trigger on my next weekend warrior car. The auto market right now is just a mess, quite possibly the worst time to buy a car.

[@mikem9978]

PS...it gonna take more people like you to go to dealers and talk to them as you do to put them in check and end this markup madness. Dont listen to people saying leave the dealers alone. This is the usa and in the usa when something aint right we peacefully protest. I consider what you're doing at the dealers a peaceful protest. that will make a difference and help everyone that works hard and wants in on the brotherhood. Keep them in check..OC, you're the OG. Keep it up! Btw, your wife is hilarious...lol

[@mikem9978]

First off, I'm so sorry you lost your Dad. I fear the day I lose mine. I still remember all my dad did for me to help me fix up my first car 84 Z28 camaro. His first car was a 66 tornado, and he still talks about to this day. I'm the guy that got a shakedown 5 months ago and told you I got it for under msrp. 63k, to be exact. I love your swinger, and I would have preferred it instead of mine. I love the lime green. But I love my shakedown! I plan to hand it down to my son, who is only 2 years old now. I put 5k miles on it so far, and yes, I have the same inside door issue as you, but I'm just like, whatever, I'll keep an eye on it. I also have something rattling inside the trunk when I open and close it. I bought it that way brand new. I had a 2018 scat with no problems for 106k. I am done with sealants unless there are major changes. But really, I wanted to tell you that you are my favorite KZbin channel. Your advice helped me know how to roll in the dirt to get my deal for my shakedown, and I just love your personality and the way you carry yourself. You're a true car/dodge guy, and I love how you're there for the kids, etc. To make their dreams come true with your Lamborghini. You have a big heart, and I just love you, man! Keep up the great work! Im in South Carolina, and I'll be watching all your videos as a fan!

[@richardweyland116]

Some dealers have really good deals and have and are moving a lot of cars. Some of them are still way too high. The color I want in a Scat Pack is very hard to find. I got a really good deal that was OTD less than what you're talking about.

[@diegoharo7943]

Inflation was and is still slightly higher than the normal 2-3 percent but wages have out paced inflation

[@neoknight14215]

I would never spend 40-50k on a scat pack ill take a camaro ss for 20k or a 98 vette for around that price, but I've found that I would be happier buying something older outright and owning it with the title in hand and no payment and just building it up while sitting back watching people struggle to pay for over priced scat packs unable to even enjoy them bc they are to busy working to barely afford them.

[@subaruamazon]

i did that after bsing for seven years with a stang. finally bought 01 conv. gt. in april 22. glad i did because they are starting to boom.

[@Jeff-ne1lh]

If we get a change up in the Oval Office we will have a Buyers market by next summer...the down side of that is finding the car you want will become markedly difficult...it's always something you are either paying through the nose or your driving from dealer to dealer trying to find the car you want.

[@chupacabra8821]

Ordered my 23’ last call scat wide body for $67k. Now you can get a 19’-21’ with Low miles for

[@Fearmocker]

too late lol. I bought my 21' 392 scat this past Saturday and it's been heaven ever since. Great miles, great price and no bs attached.

[@brentwells6123]

I bought a DarkHorse premium under MSRP

[@subaruamazon]

01 mustang gt conv. how is it? they are beautiful.

[@ChrisFromFloriduh]

Does the Dark Horse fix the vague handling?

[@RipleyandSwoo]

Yea I got a 2022 Mustang GT Premium with almost every single add on option and only 3k miles in December for 42k cash otd Certified Preowned from a Ford Dealer. I looked at similarly priced Dodges but just too expensive for what you get IMO.

[@subaruamazon]

@@RipleyandSwoo how is it?

[@RipleyandSwoo]

@subaruamazon I really like it. I mean it really comes down to personal preference. It's got heated/ventilated seats, heated steering wheel, ambient lighting, active exhaust, etc. Performance is tit for tat with the Scat but ive already done a few performance mods and lowered with camber plates, Shocks, Struts, stop the hop. The big draw of the Dodges to me is the space but usually just me and my wife and she has an SUV anyways.

[@davidrosing5788]

A fifth thing why one shouldn't buy just now, that is, how does a buyer of the last call vehicles protect themselves from the bad builds we've been seeing in these last call models? Sure, your trim panel wasn't serious, but look how long it's taking to get a new one and how much time you're wasting on it. And the one chassis that was welded without the adhesive would be another disaster if that happened to anyone else. What else is wrong with these cars that won't be discovered until they're driven 20k miles? How can potential buyers protect themselves from those potentially time and money wasting scenarios? Will Dodge offer a 10 year unlimited mileage warranty to get rid of these things? I'm sure they won't, but what would it take to get the company back in the good graces of the customers again? Just a thought.

[@ocmotivator]

Good point for sure! I’m getting more irritated every day with my door panel. It’s more about their intentional drop in quality combined with price gouging that pissed me off.

[@goobcutusofborg3357]

You can always get a pre-purchase inspection done. That’ll be your best option to protect yourself.

[@Itchintogodeerhuntin]

I contacted two dealerships in my state and they gave me a run around. Had me fill out a pre purchase credit app they saw I was A+ rated and didn’t even bother to lower the price. Not worth it they can keep em on the lot and let ‘em rot. One dealership has a 2022 still waiting to be bought. What a joke

[@DariusClaxton]

They are going to hold on to those prices to the last minute. And there is still idiots over paying and thinking that they are getting a good deal.

[@diegoharo7943]

Repos were higher in 2017, 2018, and 2019 than 2022 and 2023 but in theory repos should be higher in 2024 because rates have remained high for a long time

[@WoolyFox]

Being in Canada and in the market for the Challenger Scat Pack, I am seeing the prices of Challengers falling as inventory keeps rising. Interest rates here are still terrible (I have very good credit and being offered 9-10% interest) but I am upside down on my 2017 Ridgeline (thank you 2022 high used prices when I arrived in Canada). I am waiting out to the spring and see where prices have landed and hopefully my trade in might be better! A dealer was so desperate for my business, they offered to transport the Challenger to me and take my truck back to there's free of charge (over 600km one way). Also with these high inventories, I can be super picky in specs so I can get the colour, seats and interior options I want so waiting it out is even better for me.

[@user-by6gr8kq7y]

I got my wide body Scat Pack with a sticker of $62,900 for $45,990 with no add ons with an interest rat of 6.50. Prices have gone back up since I purchased mine in April and there are only a few wide bodies left in south Florida. What do you think?

[@Team-Webber]

Top 3 Reason Not To Buy: 1) Prices are ridiculous 2) Build quality is shit 3) Dodge Dealers / Company doesn’t consistently does not want to stand behind their product, unless they’re guilt tripped into via social media.

[@ryanmcnalley6788]

I think the Covid fiasco jacked up the industry. I'm thankful I bought mine before then - absolutely no issues after 5 years on my '19 Scat.

[@AK.__]

When you able to make a money, you shouldn't be worry about prices. The quality of their cars is average to market and they can last decade easily with proper maintenance and without abuse. When you drive the car, you already do not care what Dodge or any other company do.

[@Team-Webber]

@@AK.__ So if I make money I shouldn’t be concerned about prices, in general, or just car prices? Also, the quality of their cars over the past 2 years has been absolutely dog shit. Lastly, are you saying that if I, or anyone else for that matter, drove a Dodge that I/we wouldn’t care about such issues as price or quality? I doubt that.

[@AK.__]

@@Team-Webber I have mention slightly different items. Yes, if you have a money, no need to express your concern about car prices, making people to believe, that you also can't buy a car. Unless you're buying some special edition and put improper oil / gas - the quality and life cycle of these cars is the same as last decade (unless you have a 'lemon', which happens). Even if you drive Dodge Helcat 170 ACR, and you super fan of Dodge Mopar - whatever they are doing with their own company - this is their business, not much to concern about for us little consumers.

[@jfisch5030]

I purchased my 2019 scat pack challenger fully loaded with incentives for $41,000 out the door. Then a couple years later got my challenger hellcat fully loaded out the door for 68 grand 1.5% interest payment of $602 a month. This is the reality we were living in this is what it should be not these ridiculous overpriced cars with this ridiculous interest rate not selling mine holding on to them this market sucks

[@BBDragon66]

I got an 2023 RT plus Sublime 6M at a great deal because they were so hard to find in the Sublime & Manual. I would consider trading up to the Sublime Swinger like you have as it would be my perfect, check all the boxes car, but we'll see if there will be one left around me when everything is on fire and they want to move the higher level cars. Right now there are none within 500 miles of me. Hellcats don't have shakers, so that would be a trade off for me.

[@avalentine7045]

I got my 0 miles 2023 sxt charger awd for 27k 7% rate. I think that was a good deal for a new car

[@subaruamazon]

great deal. good job.

[@michaelcleary249]

I got one of the last NO INTEREST - 0 - NA DA on my 21 Scat P - Not a wide body but has every other option (Must admit wife ordered it) mileage under 12,000 - its staying in my gagage. good video.

[@BigJoe5.0]

Do not do the wells fargo deal without looking around first. Plenty of better offers out there!

[@jhonnyjhomey]

I just paid 47 for a 56,500 sp challenger, and got outa there only paying a small doc fee , which I hated but I have been shopping for 3 + years for one. I bit on the deal because they still had the color I wanted

[@Stufftowatch21]

Wait till who gets in the Oval Office than decide if you buy HELLCAT or scat pack .

[@naturallawman2965]

Nah. If anything the NADA will go up there and buy every Republican, and get a nice bailout. These dealers are only going to drop these prices so much, until they just pack them up, send them to auction, and eat the loss. If people can find a good deal -- get it, if u want it.

[@chrisvig123]

Since values on vehicles are dropping fast just wait…has not relation to Oval Office

[@larryconner4062]

Got a 2013 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi. Paid off long ago. Never going to get rid of it. Like new with 165,000 miles.

[@robertjancio6479]

Been watching u for awhile now, Thank you

[@TKsGarage]

Not even interest rates. They won't finance them lol. Unless they put 15 to 20k down lol. It's a disaster. Dealers here in Vegas are sending them to Manheim now lol 🤣

[@subaruamazon]

why not sell to public? maybe get more? oh that makes sense. better not do that.

[@marcanderson7478]

Got my 23 HC $84k sticker car for $72k out the door with no trade. Florida dealer had a bunch of them they were liquidating. There are deals out there you just need to do a nationwide search. It’s cheap to ship a car too. If your local dealer won’t come off msrp tell them to pound sand or you’ll be way upside down on that car.

[@naturallawman2965]

What FL dealer?

[@chrisluke768]

Who did you go to

[@subaruamazon]

former car salesman. i keep telling people to expand their buying radius. you did great. especially in fl. they are ball busters in fl. good job.

[@marcanderson7478]

@@naturallawman2965 Arrigo in West Palm Beach. They would not move off their advantage package which was $2995 but the car was still $17,500 off even after that so the total deal was killer. I also had to fight with them to get a chip in the door repaired as they sent me the car that way but eventually they agreed to when I sent them the walk around video that they had sent me before buying. Overall nobody could touch that deal and they sold a lot of 23 Challenger HC’s to customers all over the country.

[@marcanderson7478]

@@chrisluke768 Arrigo in West Palm Beach. See above reply 👆🏼

[@rehanr3096]

Brad, I may not have money to buy a Scat Pack or a Hellcat, but I'm feeling so good about the discount on these cars. As soon as this mess stops, and I get enough moolah, I'll probably buy both of them, since I feel it's unfair to choose one. Also, as someone who's been watching your videos for a while now, I can say that your Challenger Scat Pack's presence is so welcome. Edit: When I saw the discounts on a TV ad, I felt so tempted. Lol. 😂

[@naturallawman2965]

Seems alot of places are starting to run out of stock tho. Dodge says there's only 7500 left in the nation, and most of those are SXT & GT. Could be wrong tho...

[@goobcutusofborg3357]

@@naturallawman2965you’ve got to keep an eye on used cars. There’s probably a lot that have been sent to auction. They only count “new” cars on the lot. If they’ve been sent to auction and now being sold as used, Dodge won’t count them.

[@jdev232]

​@naturallawman2965 of course they say that, so you feel like you better go get yours! 😂😂😂😂

[@SRT_Estrella]

Doing the paper work as we speak on a WBHC $10k below MSRP. If you're picky about the options and trim I would buy now (only if u are tier 1 credit and got money to spend). It's slim pickings if you're picky like myself. APR would still be high around 7-8% but shop around for rates and have the dealerships finance office match it.

[@christopherthompson9642]

I’m waiting for a Supra prices to come down. I’m seeing more and more to hit the market. My current car is paid off so this will just be a toy for me.

[@devincortez5001]

My 21' challenger scat wb was stolen at my house 3 months ago. I'm in SoCal. I tried to get another, but prices w/int. Rates changed my mind. Bought a new/used lexus with a better int rate than my CU and lower price. Gonna wait another year or two to see my options.

[@alexstealth27]

Rates are not going down anytime soon so I did not wait for my M3. If you see a 1 - 3% interest rate on any car most likely they are making the difference somewhere else in the transaction so be very careful. People need to accept the reality. Home prices are not going down and interest rates aren’t either. Completely different times from 20 years ago.

[@arthurwells7778]

Bought my wife a loaded R/T challenger octane red the only things it doesn’t have is the sunroof and the shaker hood msrp was $56,479 for $42,690 at bill Harris cdjr in ashland, OH in march of this year I couldn’t get there fast enough !!! Lol

[@threehemis5566]

Might be different in Canada but with 800++ credit rating when I was looking around interest rates were up around 9% (used). Special sales on certain new cars, never the nice desirable models, im seeing 5.99%. 5 year terms at banks giving high 4% to 5% interest on saving. Alot of what you say makes sense but car loans, or cash purchase for that matter, on new cars never do. Best bet if you want a car loan get a 3-5 yr old car and let somebody else pay the depreciation. You are right though even the used 5 yr old cars are marked up because of the ridiculous new car prices so wait it out. Im keeping my 2009 R/T and ill waste money on a supercarger one day. Its paid for the supercharger will be paid for and it will still have more power than anyone can legally use on the street. I would say to anyone go out and find a 2008-14 charger srt8 or challenger that someone has babied and polished in their garage like a family member and buy that. 8 speed not worth the thousands and thousands of $ extra.

[@jdsofar]

Agree. Not paying 9% interest with prime credit. Thats an extra 20-30k for a 5-7 year finance. I'm gonna wait til the price comes down abut on em. There was too high rn. Asking luxury car prices for a dodge product. Lol. hilarious

[@michaelclementi727]

great review, Edmunds says they have employee pricing and 1.9% financing now for Challenger. I'm looking at MOPAR edition sticker is $69,595 what should the price be $62,000 ??

[@beehemp8701]

Dodge viper ACR'S are the only cars that will go up in value from that brand!

[@naturallawman2965]

Yup. But I think the Scat's, in good condition, in 20 years will hold & start going up. But only to realistic collector prices $30-50k, depending on model. But just my opinion. No proof. We'll have to wait & see.

[@Papolucho702]

It’s really too bad they went down in quality. I wanted to get an R/T Charger a few years back or a Durango R/T. Rates are crazy for them too!

[@Toys4JokerJoe]

The quality is fine. I had a 50th anniversary. I now have last call and it’s absolutely awesome.

[@davebest6369]

The last time I checked, First Citizens Bank in North Carolina was 5.1% on an 11 month CD. So even better tates are out there.

[@maddogcustomzgarage]

I'd say buy a used one between 2015-2019 there's Tons of scat packs with 40k miles or less in the upper 20s -35k you'll save yourself 30 grand plus you'll get better build cars without problems before they started cutting corners rushing sending out half put together cars and cutting costs during the pandemic, these 2023 cars are already 1.5 years old and have lost half of there warranty sitting, and they are still selling at msrp, dodge has ruined there reputation and trust of customers and no one ain't buying the crap!!!

[@JA-zh5xi]

There’s always been only one reason not to buy CDJR - absolutely bottom of the barrel quality.

[@jayinla81]

Good advice. As usual. Thx!

[@cryptomarcus1003]

My plan is to go to a dodge dealship with 45k cash to buy a scatpack not a penny over

[@MH-so9oz]

Remember what he said : Dealers Lowball you on your trade, then Highball you on the vehicle they're selling you. Then, you finance at some ridiculous high rate and end up paying more of your hard-earned money for the car. Money that you've already paid taxes on!!! How much money do you want to give away?? New cars are cool but take some advice - Save your money! Cash is King!

[@Robert-lp7qq]

You are right on,everything you are saying.I love going to the dealer now and playing with them.I have My 2014 not for sale but I will add to my collection keep coming down Hell Cat soon 😊😊🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@johnlacroix1639]

I like and WOW amazing TY so much ,,Keep up the great work

[@naturallawman2965]

The only way I can afford one of these is these current price drops. I kinda gotta go for it...

[@armandorivera911]

I don't know for other places but here I got my HC on 4/30/24 and from HC to Demons they had 67 left on that dealer today is zero in fact a 150 mile search for new HC in my area on 6/28/24 gave me a 314 result and today is 52 and they are back in the $90's again so defiantly not a time to buy here.

[@FlightRobXIII]

I agree with the majority of this video’s content, except it really depends on area. For instance, I just bought a widebody scat pack charger on Monday. MSRP was $65.5K and I paid $58K. There isn’t another one spec’d like mine within 500 miles in the Midwest. If I start paying to ship it or violating the break-in by driving home 800 miles it doesn’t make much sense for me. I also got 5% from my CU and my insurance is only $45/Mo. everything made sense for me. I can afford to pay off the car if I lost my job or something like that, so no worry there. I think wide body chargers are one of the best looking cars on the road. We all have our preference. I would take a bet that you’re not getting a 65.5K scat pack for $50K, period. 55K? Sure. I’ll take the $3K loss buying the only one spec’d the way I want it within 500 miles. Like you, I can afford it and I have relatively high job security and less than $2K credit card debt and it’s 0% until mid 2025. I have made WAY dumber decisions and lost more on simpler deals: Ahem, my Tesla, lol. And, scat packs and hellcats are absolutely NOT cars anyone should be buying used in my opinion. While I agree that these are not collector cars, I think they will hold slightly more value because they aren’t being made anymore, last call or not. Just my opinion. No fight, love your vids and your financial prowess!

[@naturallawman2965]

I do think Scats will go up in collectability in about 20 years. But it's jmho.

[@subaruamazon]

how do u get 45/mo insurance. that i awesome.

[@FlightRobXIII]

@@subaruamazon I couldn’t believe it when my agent said it on the phone, lol. I was like, wincing as she was pulling it up and when she said $45 I was like wtf? It’s a combo of: less than 5K expected miles per year, “lay up” clause, meaning it won’t be driven regularly in the winter, and my house having every sq inch visible by security camera with auto dial 911. As well as me being late 30s with no accidents/tickets ever. Not the greatest credit in the world since I had to file bankruptcy for medical reasons.

[@subaruamazon]

@@FlightRobXIIIyour broker set it up?

[@FlightRobXIII]

@@subaruamazon yes. I use Erie, but I go through an insurance agency to get it. It doesn’t make sense to me either, but through Broker is how I’ve got the best deals on insurance, lol.

[@diegoharo7943]

lol I also have Wells Fargo as one of my banks and in December I got a cd at 5.64 percent or 4.64 percent for 7 months. It matured on July 1. I was thinking of putting the money back into a cd but instead I’m taking my chance on some stocks which are all but one paying off

[@Battleborndobermans]

I just bought a 23 charger hellcat and got a great deal 11k off msrp car only had like 40 miles on it and super happy with it thanks to Towbin dodge in Las Vegas 😊

[@proxifies]

Just grabbed mine last week too, from $94k MSRP down to $79K for a wb charger jailbreak

[@benhead77]

If everything goes to shit, your money is unequivocally not safe in any banking institution. There are tons of banks that are literally going down as we speak right now. Protect your money and buy Gold and store it in a safe next to your guns.

[@perryalexander5868]

OCM, the prices are still high on scatpak and hell cats.

[@jdev232]

Great deals on slightly used ones. Buy those. 21's are one of the better years. Beautiful triple nickel scat 6mt up in Washington state at a nissan dealer, 20k miles, if i remember right. 37k. Thats a steal. On market for close to a year.

[@backs8189]

might not be as much of a steal as you think it is. never know the history that vehicle went through, no 21 clean title scat, is selling for under 40k, unless its salvaged.

[@jdev232]

@@backs8189 I suppose the carfax could just be bullsh*t.

[@jdev232]

@backs8189 there's more than one...there's plenty across the country, you just have to look thru all search engines

[@backs8189]

@@jdev232 yeah man, definitely gotta do research on the vins and run it through multiple lookups, i rememebr about a year and a half ago when i found this nice RT that was 20,000 cash, seemed to good to be true, carfax was clean everything. but once i actually searched the vin online, i found previous pictures of it basically totaled out with its airbags deployed on some overseas auction site. doesn’t help that this listing was also in el paso, lmao. near mexico, where they literally chop up cars for cheap / cheap repairs.

[@jdev232]

@@backs8189 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗

[@JJ-300C-JVLE]

Great advice! OC...

[@sichallenger23]

I was able to find a 23 challenger scat pack shaker in the spec i wanted for just under MSRP IN JANUARY. Had to travel to Massachusetts from NYC but well worth it!

[@subaruamazon]

good for you. no one wants to expand their buying radius. sold cars in college. how did u find and contact the dealer?

[@sichallenger23]

@@subaruamazon thanks, i found it off the dodge site. I searched for what i wanted and went through all the dealers

[@Southern_gentleman.]

I have a 2016 challenger 392 and I’m ready to get a new hellcat but I’m still holding out. It’s just not time, yet. We the customers should hold out, they will come down

[@roberthines479]

I saw an '04 Ram Rumble Bee that was sitting on a lot close to a year. Dealer was asking 10k, I offered $7,500 & they bit!

[@Toys4JokerJoe]

My dealership is selling remaining last calls is selling 10k-13k under list. Also credit unions offer great rates. Don’t tell people to not do something because you’re not happy. I have no issues with quality either.

[@kenmcleod8618]

Absolutely correct 😊

[@AK.__]

Always buy what you want to drive with consideration factor of the budget availability. That's all. The next should be overall reliability of chosen car(s). And that's totally all. Do not listen to other people, you are not them. Do not listen to losers who can't afford the car that you want, do not listen to general consumers who do not care which car do they drive. Calculate your budget wisely and drive your dream.

[@hailstorm1986]

Best economy in 50 years my A$$!!!

[@goobcutusofborg3357]

Right! I’m a truck driver and I was making $80-100k a year between 2016-2020. This year I’m looking to make around $40k. Such a great economy! 😒

[@strokeracp1]

Let's go Brandon ❗

[@strokeracp1]

Let's go Brandon ❗

[@larrywilliams3858]

​@@goobcutusofborg3357I feel for you. Especially when everything is 35% more expensive.

[@osvalditochirino3428]

The insurance is a major downfall for these cars brother

[@zillacon1]

Manaheim just posted the used market crash of 60%. You'll take a serious, serious beating if you buy now.

[@pedrohizzle2835]

Why don’t you do demon videos? We have to pay to see those??

[@AzeUwish-cupidsconfidant]

The Demon prices dropped significantly, under $100,000.

[@raycoolz7475]

Everybody’s buying use in this bad economy.. ..so now used cars a sky rocketing … and now 2023’s that was new yesterday … are now considering used …. That means there are no more new chargers or challengers

[@appleiphone69]

You stayed strong, the 2023 are junk.

[@HelmetThunders]

The CD is not bad but I prefer to stay more liquid with 1-month treasuries at 5.36% or money market funds at 5.14% (Schwab).

[@subaruamazon]

i park my money in the money market at my brokerage. no time limits.

[@melvincantresjr2349]

This is so true what he said and my wife and her family went there to the dodge dealer to see to trade my dodge durango RT 2021 and/or dodge charger RT 2023 so they said yes would be trade either one for charger or challenger scatpack… but the problem is the paying monthly is 1300 either one scatpack with an high interest 22% so I shook my head from my wife told me on the phone & also told me come back later in 8 months to a year so the interest will go down and pay monthly too so I’m like….. it doesn’t matter because so many ppl out there cities or different world have a lot money they could buy scatpack hellcats etc before me would be lost opportunity like honestly this is suck

[@subaruamazon]

enjoy what you have. you are lucky to have those.

[@bullittboost6046]

LOVE THAT LAMBO!!

[@LaEscuelaDelEncanto]

Just buy your car. Bought a scat pack and no regrets. It’s badass

[@Carlcameron6638]

I don’t know much about cars but I bet if you ask for a discount and then put a large down payment you good

[@WIMKIN-FREEDOM-FIGHTER]

The Charger you showed with the list price MSRP. The actual cost of build is actually just under 16k. Think about that. So not only are you paying hyper-inflated prices for these vehicles. You cost to deprecation at the point of sale with current average interest rates. You're loss at the sign of the dotted line is more in the likes of a residual loss of 72% on an average basis. So in other words, your financially bankrupt the moment you sign the paperwork. Sounds awesome doesn't it.

[@jittychitty]

Time to buy a repo'd hellcat cheap one of these days, maybe...?

[@naturallawman2965]

I'd be terrified of the condition of a repo'ed Hellcat.