5 Reasons Why I Returned My M4 MacBook Pro

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[@BeeRoyLee]

The Apple Store was right for once, your issue was likely software related. You may not even require a pro for your workflow.

[@abdinasirmusa8777]

@@BeeRoyLee I have to agree with you. I only use the device for simple emailing, desktop research and data analysis. I shouldn’t be getting spreadsheets that crushes every other hour.

[@Jmpaul26]

But I doubt other folks are having the same issues with Adobe apps, those are pretty widely used for MacBook Pro owners, right?

[@stephenvalente3296]

Last time I used Indesign was not long after it was released in the late 90’s, and back then think my PC had no more than 8Gb memory, if that and it ran pretty well. Seems insane that in 25 years the memory requirement has risen at least 8 fold, even with a load of new features.

[@Treborray]

The internet tip is such a gem that nobody has mentioned that i watch !

[@oeaoo]

my 64 gb one does well, but keep in mind that applications very often are not ideal and over consume your RAM, so it's always a good idea to constantly monitor what's going on and restart applications when they go crazy

[@kentblastique4074]

I just bought that M4 14” 4 days ago, my 1st Mac ever, 30 years of using Windows. I enjoy using this Macbook pro because it is the strongest and fastest computer ive ever experienced. But so far adjusting from windows to Mac is not easy as I thought it would be. But so far Im extremely satisfied. I bought my Mac for producing Music.

[@emptistudio]

That’s awesome! You’ll be a pro in no time, just gotta get used to the new workflow

[@kentblastique4074]

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[@t87h21]

I own the Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 and the Macbook Air 13 inch M2, have now sold the Air and have recently owned the Macbook Pro 14 inch M4 Pro in silver with the nano texture display and I love it. For me the best upgrade

[@iurban79]

I have the same, MBPro 16 M1 and Air M2. and I am considering to swap those two for new MB Pro M4 14.

[@t87h21]

@@iurban79 If you travel a lot with it and need the performance, it's worth it. I've used the Air M2 90% of the time over the last year and the Pro M1 almost exclusively when stationary and when I needed the performance. Nevertheless, I noticed how much higher quality the Pro is compared to the Air. For this reason, I swapped the Air M2 for the 14 Pro M4 Pro. I'm still keeping the 16 Pro M1 and use it stationary, both have their advantages.

[@DemnoTechmaster]

I knew it with 32GB Unified memory and the Adobe suite. you are using it to increase your memory pressure......for mine, I have a 16-inch M2 max with 64GB RAM, and it's so good with no memory pressure.

[@AlexMint]

The weird thing is I do a ton of After Effects stuff and I rarely break above 20GB on my 16gb macbook, but the stuff that doesn't handle video is doing it?

[@san.d_]

It seems like the Mac facing some software-related issues, csz the current M4 chips have compatibility issues with some softwares. I'm currently using the M3 Pro and still think it's a powerhouse. I mainly use IntelliJ, MongoDB, AWS, Postman, Docker, and a ton of other applications like browser tabs and various other apps. Despite all this, it continues to perform quickly as usual. While the M4 is a solid option, I don't feel the need to upgrade at this time. I've heard that the M4 Max drains its battery more quickly after it reaches 60-70%, especially with extensive tasks like Photoshop and video editing.

[@bovineox1111]

It’s likely the ram and it’s likely a Adobe issue as your original MacBook should be perfectly powerful 4.5hrs using multiple productivity apps is insanely good you do know?

[@salut9658]

People having space black do you really get alot of fingerprints ?

[@Grenvil19]

not so much and it didn't bother me

[@salut9658]

@ thanks

[@nicholasdickson5024]

Yes 100% and its scratches very easily revealing the silver aluminum

[@salut9658]

@@nicholasdickson5024 🥺

[@BuiltInception]

yes the space black is very bad for fingerprints. I have 2 machines from the M3 generation in space black and both have wear marks on them one of which goes down to the silver bare metal from an Apple Watch band. I would go silver.

[@charlenexu5033]

Will working in a café make a MacBook feel heavy and less portable? Of course, battery life is also very important. I almost decided to buy the Midnight one. Thank you for your video, it was very helpful.

[@emptistudio]

I’ve been using a 16 inch MacBook since 2019, so gotten used to the weight 🤣 shoulder workout for sure. But the extra screen real estate for me is more important since I only use my MacBook and rarely ever use monitors or my desktop. So glad you found the video helpful!

[@charlenexu5033]

@@emptistudio Sorry, I saw the comment late. I’ve been addicted to Xiaohongshu(red). In fact, the Mac has become heavier and heavier, less portable, and I can't even lift the computer with one hand, even though I have a habit of working out.

[@Mastertist]

I'm not sure as you why you're fully speced out laptop couldn't handle all these design programs at the same time. They're not even davinci resolve or Blender, and I don't think indesign and photoshop should freeze. My windows laptop with 1660ti graphics card can handle design softwares and browsers really well. It's possible you may have gotten a faulty product. I'm also surprised that the battery hour didn't last as long as expected. Other reviewers had glorifying review on battery life.

[@GanggsterR]

I think it's an OS problem-they always make sure that the Adobe software doesn't run well

[@emptistudio]

Yeah it was really frustrating to go through that, I went to the Genius bar and they said everything including battery is working normally. Expectations vs real world use cases I guess…

[@chewielewis4002]

Faulty?? Are you kidding? No, shes running processor intensive applications its going to run the battery down fast. The 24 hour battery life test is based off running 1080p video and one browser tab. 10 years ago running what she is running would only give her 2 hours of battery life. 8 hours is amazing for what she is running You cant run processor at 100% and expect the max battery life.

[@moddojo]

It’s always Adobe’s fault. Most expensive software and they’re always behind updating their suite to work with latest hardware. My fully specced 2019 mbp struggled with it on release and it took Adobe 6 months to address performance issues with the particular amd gpu that model used. Traded it in for the m4 pro mbp and seems like same same. You’d think they would hurry up considering they take a monthly payment. Apps that run inefficient make the M chips run hot so thermal throttling takes away performance too.

[@orincywhytedesigns]

I’m curious too. I’m on a M1 Air with 16gb of ram. I genuinely think it was Adobe rather than the Mac.

[@Elbsmy]

I've got the M1 Max binned version with 24GPU and 32GB and it's handling InDesign and PhotoShop perfectly. I always open both apps together, and even though the memory used is 28.8, the memory pressure is green. I'm confused why were you getting any issues with your space black Mac!!

[@tomwignall0410]

I really don’t think it was a hardware issue. Definitely down to the software.

[@CanadaDry0416]

Exactly why I'm returning the space black 14" M4 Pro!!(Can't stand the fingerprints) and gonna switch to silver while upgrading the Ram to 48GB!

[@dvpgoesdowninflames]

did you also have the 36gb RAM one like her? I'm considering if I should splurge on a bigger Ram lol

[@CanadaDry0416]

@@dvpgoesdowninflames Macbook M4 Pro has the only option for 24GB or 48GB...No other options though :(

[@afnaninti8734]

Which macbook are you using currently using? Is it m3 macbook pro?

[@aprilg6516]

I just ordered the silver MacBook Pro 14" and I can't wait to play around with it. I'm trying to find the best rubber case for it though that is drop proof (because you never know). Any suggestions? I want one that looks sleek still but does the job.

[@RPGenieUS]

I don’t think rubber CAN look sleek.

[@aprilg6516]

@@RPGenieUS Yeah I changed my mind. I ordered something else. I just need something that won't crack or break... but also ha an easy grip. lol

[@kevenCodes]

Tailored it to m4 chip? Were they taking the piss?

[@kryptomac101]

Serious question. Are having some lags while editing multiple clips of 4k videos using Capcut on your Macbook? Thank you!

[@emptistudio]

Have encountered the rainbow spinning wheel once or twice, not too bad all

[@edwardm9975]

Capcut is being banned in USA

[@Grenvil19]

i bought macbook pro space black, not many finger print like macbook air, not bothering me, and i agree with the nano texutre is worth it :)

[@maigokonekochan]

They sent it to me in space gray accidentally when I ordered silver just last week but actually I ended up keeping it because I thought it looks more sleek :3

[@jdsd_]

Space gray M4 Mac Book Pro?

[@maigokonekochan]

@@jdsd_ no. another model with different specs. i was meaning about the colour. it looks much more sleek now and i used to love the silver so i didn't return. if i was to pick between black and silver for the M4 since no other colours available, i would go for silver too

[@jdsd_]

@@maigokonekochan Ah ok. My favorite is gray, but unfortunately thats not available for the MBP :/ Im not sure if I should choose black or silver. I like black a lot more than silver, but ive heard pretty bad stuff about fingerprints and scratches...

[@vinilreddy3044]

I bought a MacBook Pro m4 pro spaaceblack, Im loving color but its picking fingerprints and smudingquickly

[@artmeansartificial]

I hate silver macbooks pro, looks ugly, space black looks amazing, but fingerprints would annoy

[@vinilreddy3044]

@artmeansartificial yeah, I exchanged my black one with silver🫣

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

I must be missing something. By refunding this do you mean returning it? How? 5 weeks later? Who lets a customer return a MacBook Pro 5 weeks later? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@emptistudio]

Apple had a holiday return period (at least that was the case in Australia, full refund no questions asked) which spans 2 months from November until January.

[@carlosmcse]

I immediately went for Silver. Not sure why people are all getting black on KZbin. Looks depressing in person. Adobe and Chrome? Nah... Chrome is the biggest resource hog there is. I bought the base model runs perfectly. I don't run any of those programs you do though.

[@IzaanFitness]

now everywhere silve is outstoc , same with ipad , meaning no one getting the black one

[@Jianfa88Tsai]

Monetise sci fi movie where there is a light bar at the top of the Mac mini that casts a holographic 3D projection of a “27 inch screen”. A second light bar at the front of the Mac mini that casts a holographic 3D projection of a keyboard and a trackpad.

[@rbvan]

As a designer, can you please tell me how you’re finding the nano display? I visited the Apple Store several times and spent quite a bit of time on the nano and the whites don’t look white, but rather a bit “smoky”. Also smaller font type (11/12) seemed not very “crisp”. I’m not a designer, but would be using it for photo editing (which I think it would be fine for), but also reading/writing. Thank you!

[@emptistudio]

Personally, I actually really love the nano-texture, I get what you mean by not as crisp but I honestly don’t think it affects me at all. The glare is a bigger issue for me (which is worse for legibility and usability) on a daily basis. And even if it’s not as crisp compared to the non-nanotexture m4 display, Apple still did an amazing job at optimizing it, especially if you compare to older Mac’s or other displays it’s already a lot better. The nano-texture also gives me a more luxurious feeling lol, feel like it makes it feel sleeker and higher quality, maybe just personal preference hahahaa Hope that helps!

[@rbvan]

@ Thanks so much for your feedback Anni! ❤️ 🙏

[@mattpacker4372]

great video x

[@emptistudio]

Thanks Matt!

[@mrnedfy]

I bought dbrand skin no fingerprints.

[@BuiltInception]

Your bottleneck was the unified memory / ram but I think you knew that as shown. The adobe apps are terribly optimized still somehow and eat memory like no other. Cheers for your new machine and the amazing silver.

[@danielbhujel7611]

Yes you must return it once you complete the review after hiring it😂

[@abdinasirmusa8777]

I get the spinning rainbow wheel on excel spreadsheet

[@marinoargenti3296]

I run a lot of investment tracking XLS . One was giving constant rainbow spin were others ran smoothly. Iam not a teckie but found out some formulas could be the culprit. Completely redone Same XLS with same parameter fixed the problem . Don't ask the exact fault trigger. Just bought a M4Pro which Apple is not very keen in working with XLS a Microsoft product . Exporting The Dow market data with my new M4Pro, you get a .CSV file that Apple SCOFS at. After hours of searching found a work around Apple's NUMBERS Apps (which opens the exported data. I cannot apply my macros to the NUMBERS type file download

[@Anvillgroup]

Here are a few things you can try to fix it: 1. Wait a Moment: Sometimes, Excel may be processing something in the background, like recalculating formulas or handling large data. Give it a few moments to see if it resolves on its own. 2. Force Quit Excel: If the wheel persists, you can force quit Excel. Press Command + Option + Esc, select Excel, and click “Force Quit.” Reopen Excel and check if the issue is resolved. 3. Check for Updates: Ensure that both Excel and macOS are up to date. Sometimes, bugs that cause the spinning wheel are fixed in updates. 4. Close Other Applications: If your Mac is running low on resources, closing other apps can free up memory and help Excel perform better. 5. Clear Preferences: Corrupted preference files can cause performance issues. You can reset Excel’s preferences by navigating to ~/Library/Preferences and deleting files related to Excel (make sure to back them up first). 6. Reboot Your Mac: A simple restart can sometimes resolve performance issues and reset any processes causing the spinning wheel. 7. Check File Size: If the Excel file is very large or contains complex formulas, try breaking it into smaller files or removing unnecessary data to see if that resolves the issue.

[@Irwansyahhh]

no way, from doing spreadsheet?

[@abdinasirmusa8777]

@ I couldn’t believe it myself because the MacBook pro 2015 with intel i5 never had issues. So its a apple silicon issue

[@Limonata_uwuslayqueen]

SSD speed is still sluggish and they did not use Wifi-7 as well. Those are the drawbacks.

[@artmeansartificial]

buy mac book in 2026! with oled and more powerful cpu/gpu, for today it isn't worth at all

[@MrErick1160]

Bro this is 100% a Mac issue, 3 adobe programs would run easily on 16gb

[@ivanivanovich5904]

I also returned it 😢

[@artmeansartificial]

128gb of ram is necessary if you gonna work in photoshop, premiere pro and after effects at the same time

[@Souvic17]

😢

[@chen0rama]

Nice video

[@shillowcollins6392]

I have the exact same thing as yours, 36 G, 1 TB 16" screen, and it glitches while running simple windows office softwares and memory easily max out at basically simple task... I was intending to use it for advanced stuff but these issues are scaring me and I am beginning to think of returning it already. Any advice for me?

[@emptistudio]

I’d say make an appointment with the Genius Bar and see if there can diagnose whether there’s other issues first. This is definitely an issue if you can’t even run simple softwares without glitches. Then see if it’s a memory issue or if you’re better off with another device. I’m personally a willing victim for Apple, love their designs so would rather spend extra than switch. But I heard a lot of other laptops are a lot more powerful for cheaper. Best of luck!

[@shillowcollins6392]

@@emptistudio Thanks a lot, your reply means the world to me and I will consider your comments in my final decision. I purchased the apple care and geek squad support as well, so I will make good use of that when I return from my vacation.

[@bigboomer751]

the silver is faster

[@kusulas24]

Yo me sigo quedando con el Macbook pro 2020 intel i7, no me cambiare hasta que haya algo mejor. Se me hace muy excesivo gastar 50,000 pesos o más para un MAX. Recomiendo a Anni, que pruebe con una ASUS, o Lenovo que tenga aceleradora grafica GTX minimo 3050, y ver si rinde mejor?

[@ivanivanovich5904]

Good luck wiping off your own saliva if you ever scream 😱 or cough )))

[@edwardm9975]

Omg

[@notorious.nip.888]

I think you could have saved urself $1000 by not upping the cpu and gpu but instead just upping the ram to 64gb and you won't have the spinning wheel of death

[@emptistudio]

I wish I could’ve done that, but the 48GB and 64GB of Unified Memory (Apple’s version of RAM) is only available if you upgrade to 16-core CPU and 40-core GPU 😅

[@notorious.nip.888]

@ damn that sucks

[@RuralSquirrelJuror]

Adobe doesn’t care about optimization

[@bobbobek2098]

I bought MacBook Pro M4 Pro 24 gb 500 gb and I run editing program, HD footage nothing complicated, and it was struggling at times, a lot of app are missing the games are ridiculous like in the 80s, I didn't have a laptop for a decade , that don't change fact it's pretty difficult to use for beginner in Apple OS , it loses connections with apple airpods, can't find my phone even when it next to it, the only reviews of the MacBook on KZbin by people who calls themselves KZbinrs and they use it for editing, come on you can edit KZbin videos on PC from the 80s and it would be exactly same, oh because I'm editing in 4k nobody cares everybody watching it on a phone anyway, most of KZbin videos you could edit it in less than 10 minutes, lady in this video could probably use 10 years old laptop for her work load, the specs that she talks about are way beyond what she needs, I agree probably software issues

[@desiloe_ministries_int]

You didn’t return it 😁🤷🏾‍♂️

[@emptistudio]

I returned the space black and got a more specced up silver 😆

[@nichill7474]

I got an M4 and returned it the next day. What did they do to the music app and no iTunes app? Extra steps to go to Finder to interract with iPods, iPhones or iPads instead of within the “use to be” iTunes app. Music is a total mess and doesn’t include a lot of music i purchased on my iPad and iPhone. The trackpad is stupid and i couldn’t find a setting that worked properly. Minimizing windows or closing them is a hassle. Overall, i think Apple messes around too much with features that were user friendly and now not so much. You have to be a computer expert to understand it now. I have had MacBooks in the past and enjoyed them but now not so much

[@tuananhha]

Because you have no idea 😂

[@musayildiz34]

i returned my Macbook Pro 14 m4 Pro and buy the 16 inch M4 Pro şn space black👍

[@kamertonaudiophileplayer847]

Buy Mac Mini instead, but select pro version.