5 Reasons Why The New Toyota Land Cruiser Isn't Perfect!

[@TRDJon]

What color GX should we buy!? Thanks FACTOR!: Use code 50TRD to get 50% OFF plus free shipping on your first Factor box at bit.ly/3PX5Cux

[@gregjoubert5118]

Incognito or atomic silver.

[@northbee15]

Incognito!

[@seinundzeiten]

I like atomic silver, that is the color I was considering to buy

[@johncarter8688]

Underground

[@ajr5195]

Nori green 100%

[@JC-tm6wh]

No complaints on our LC prem, it almost has too much power when my wife drives. So far its been rock solid, everything working like it should.

[@TRDJon]

Yea it’s solid powertrain as I mentioned. But, if you’ve been in a GX for a long period of time and also tundra, you’d agree it is the superior powertrain option.

[@cancerchicbreast2074]

I love mine and a hybrid was a non negotiable. The hybrid rx was boring

[@meadmaker4525]

That anemic, overly complicated drive train is the biggest fail for me with this LC. The truck looks great from a design perspective. I really love the boxy look. But the cheap materials and corner cutting literally everywhere on this thing, particularly given the price point, just don't make sense. I feel like it's a $35K truck with a $70K price tag. Given how cheap and tinny the doors sound when they close, I suspect they omitted pretty much all of the sound deadening in this model as well. $200-worth of Dynamat would've made it so much better. And like you said, even the fact that there's no laminated glass on this $70K truck is a glaring omission. For me, ditching the hybrid altogether in favor of the manual transmission drive train from the Tacoma (same platform, so why not?) would have been a massive improvement for this rig. Then deleting all of the useless electronic off-road gimmickry would have made it just about perfect. I would probably be so happy with it at that point I'd completely overlook the rest of the issues. Unfortunately, Toyota just doesn't listen to their customer base anymore.

[@TRDJon]

No where near anemic.

[@PROutdoors94]

All valid points. As an LC250 owner myself, I agree with a lot of these. At the end of the day though I, switched from having a RAV4 for the last 10 years to this bad boy and despite the downsides, I love this thing!

[@TRDJon]

For sure!!! It’s been great and we have really enjoyed it. It was hard to make 5 dislikes.

[@BLR653]

Looking forward to your comparison of the Land Crusier vs the 4Runner! As a current 5th gen owner we are all waiting to see how the 6th gen turns out!

[@moisesceja5294]

Humble King, bro admitted he 5’11 when most of us would have claimed 6 foot

[@TRDJon]

Gotta stay real bro!

[@jillianm5448]

So. Fucking. Tired. of the complaints about the engine on the LC. "It gets great MPG, it's got loads of torque, we've had no problems with it at all. But I hate it!" It's exhausting and ridiculous. The v6 on the gx550 is loud as hell, and the MPG is pathetically bad.

[@TRDJon]

Its not loud at all in the GX. Its very quiet compared to the tundra and sequoia.

[@markpeterson1686]

Switch to decaf

[@ebenlaubscher4153]

I have the 2,8 GD straight diesel in South Africa . I have the Tx .Never use gimmicks in other cars ,so i went with Basic . Love it so far . Plenty enough power . I still have a 120 series 4L V6 that i like to drive ,but it is 18 years old and very basic

[@FaithfulSteve]

We love our LC250 premium. Only thing I can really agree with is the v6 and a bigger gas tank

[@TRDJon]

Those are my biggest out of all the dislikes for sure.

[@jillianm5448]

So you want significantly worse gas mileage and a louder powertrain with less torque? lol. Okay.

[@Overbill8831]

I'm just fine with the engine, I do wish it had a bigger tank though. And no storage up front sucks.

[@RonL-y3v]

Have 2025 premium package and no complaints, this or a Lexus wasn’t a hard choice, a Lexus looks like a Lexus but the Land Cruiser looks like a Land Cruiser. All your complains are very subjective and nothing you are saying is based on anything other than your personal opinion which I really don’t give a crap about.

[@BlkMamba24K]

Ive read about and watched a ton of videos on the likes and dislikes....None of the complaints have bothered me.... I plan on buying the LC within the next 2-3 months. I just love the look of this car.

[@clayerickson5074]

I'm ready for the 4Runner embargo to be over. Hopefully we're not disappointed like with the Landcruiser.

[@HiPlains1]

Sorry but its based off the same TGNA platform as the tacoma. Same internal bump stops, no proper external trans intercooler, same problematic 8 speed, same hard plastics everywhere, same thinned out steel on box frame and many other corners cut. The outgoing 4 liter may have less torque but it's indestructible. Same went for the older 5 speed auto. Literally the last 300K mile plus truck made for North America. These new ones will never reach that kind of mileage without substantial cost. Just a turbo replacement your talking 10K. Repairability costs out of warranty is off the charts. MPG's no better. This yet another victim of the EPA. Only turbo worth buying from the mighty Yota is the D4D turbo diesel. Which the US will never get. Also that engine uses the reliable and robust 6 speed. The Global product continues to get the better version. FIngers crossed that Nissan comes back with a real body on frame Xterra with the NA 3.8 V6. Rumors say they are considering it. This would be more viable option.

[@Balthasar_Gelt463]

@@HiPlains1I detect BS. It doesn’t cost 10k to replace a turbo on this Toyota, it doesn’t even cost that much to replace a turbo on an AMG. Also turbo lifespan is like 150000 miles, or 10 years. I still think the better buy is the Nissan Armada, its cost slightly more but you get so much car.

[@barronb9602]

Sorry Jon, but the only thing I agree with you about is the front storage. I would have liked more, but the 250 is so much better than my 4Runner that I have no complaints.

[@TRDJon]

The acoustic glass I feel too. It would help with wind noise a lot.

[@Icayn]

What about the tiny gas tank, that don’t bother you?

[@Groot564]

Looks like a base model! I definitely keeping my 21 v6 TRD PRO even more!

[@ian0841]

Jon, thank you for the good review. I appreciate you really doing this stuff for your viewers. Look forward to the 4Runner content since I own a 5th gen. Also the comparison to the GX will be amazing. You are the first person to bring us the content comparing these platforms.

[@TRDJon]

Appreciate you watching, for sure, the 4Runner comparison is coming!

[@CrippleCreekStudios]

@ian0841 I agree with everything you said. I really appreciate his hustle and all the comparisons. I completely respect his opinions. (And even his facts! 😂)

[@MN.29]

One thing I don’t like about my lc is the cool box. If it wasn’t connected to hvac I would definitely remove it for a 1958 middle console

[@nc_cyborg640]

Got a '24 GX550 in Nori Green. I am very impressed with it. It definitely has more acceleration than my older 5th gen 4Runner.

[@robertf3340]

You made an honest review. I think all of the complaints would reflect my feelings of the LC as well. Thanks.

[@TRDJon]

Thanks for watching. I appreciate the support.

[@4ft3rburn3r]

I finally got a chance to test drive the new Land Cruiser and I just did not like the 4 cylinder at all. Like you mentioned, the engine felt unrefined. Also the steering feel felt too light imo.

[@DaveA8385]

Really looking forward to the content when the embargo is over, especially putting those vehicles up against the Lexus. Appreciate what you do.

[@TRDJon]

I appreciate that. I will get to that comparison as soon as I can!

[@is6566]

Man your wife completely convinced me about that product. 😃 Also, very good and honest review. I like that about your channel. Although you are focusing on one brand you are not the typical fanboy with nothing but praise for the models. Finally, I am glad you are getting all three (GX, 4R and LC) on the ground at the same time for side by side comparison. Please, include some tape measurements for interior dimensions. Could for example a 6-foot individual sleep inside in any of them? Diagonally if not otherwise. Thanks!

[@TRDJon]

She’s pretty persuasive haha and 50% off! lol. I will document as much as possible for you all! I appreciate your viewership!

[@alexmseu]

I agree with you on the engine choice, especially because you can get a Bronco with a V6 twin turbo, but as many have already commented, no one would buy the GX if the LC had the same engine at a lower price.

[@HiPlains1]

Nissan needs to get serious about bringing back the body on frame Xterra with the 3.8 NA V6. There is a big void that needs filling. Facts.

[@ethanknapp2532]

A comment on a different 250 video kinda hit the nail on the head… “this would be an outstanding 35,000 dollar car.”

[@nightcrawleroriginal]

As for plastic trim, personally, I prefer that than metal. Less prone to door dents which I like and cheaper to repair or touch up. 👍 😊

[@TRDJon]

True!

[@K-MAN-ik2pz]

@@TRDJonbut not at $65K

[@noctilucent7396]

Loving my LC250. My blows my 5th gen 4R out of orbit.

[@TRDJon]

Orbit!?! Sheeesh!!!!

[@dackley21]

Had to look real hard for those complaints. I’ve got one and we absolutely love it. No complaints.

[@TRDJon]

Personal complaints for sure. The biggest is the cheapness of and expensive vehicle and small tank

[@mononeo]

The cowl in front of the windshield is glossy on Lexus GX 550 "plus" models, but is matte on the non-plus. That's how you can tell the difference between Overtrail and Overtrail Plus from the outside!

[@553jjj]

as i saying before....a 6 cyl engine is always better than a 4...turbo and batteries are not the answer for performance...if they put the 6 on the cruiser, nobody will buy the GX550...

[@TRDJon]

That may be true!

[@Aarl0130]

It’s clear that the GX 550 it’s the real LC, this 250 it’s just the name. The questions will be, do you want a great reliable off roader SUV or you just want a legacy name plate

[@TRDJon]

Both should be reliable, but time will tell.

[@ErikBernethy]

I love the looks of the new Land Cruiser. But I agree with you Jon, 70k price range shouldn't come with all that plastic. I'll be looking forward to the new 4R reviews, and when you buy the GX. My favorite GX colors are either Earth or Incognito.

[@gio.rodriguez]

My only gripe is the acoustic glass. Toyota should have definitely put it on for the price.

[@TRDJon]

Would help so much with the wind noise

[@cwqrpportable]

Well, no vehicle is perfect. I like the fact it’s floated on a boat from Japan to NA and not built in the US. Also, Toyota is not perfect but tend to cover their customer well. I’m currently in Thailand on vacation; anyone who’s not been in SE Asia before would drool at the vehicle offerings here. Mostly Toyota, Honda, Isuzu and Ford Rangers.

[@guitarguy764]

Hearing the complaints about the powertrain on these new vehicles makes me super happy that I supercharged my 5th gen 4Runner.

[@TRDJon]

Enjoy it! I’m thinking about that for my 5th Gen

[@guitarguy764]

@ thanks bro!

[@TinkerersAdventure]

Totally agree with the steering wheel bottom dead plate. When I test drive it I was like WTH?

[@TRDJon]

Didn't realize how much I placed my hand there until that.

[@bitkahuna]

very good comments and concise and good production. thanks. mic on the hat is a nice touch too ha

[@TRDJon]

Glad you liked it!

[@cartopia6161]

Thanks for the update! Agree this version of the Land Cruiser is a bit lackluster. Not a big fan of the hybrid powertrain. Your tires are too big for the ride height. It needs a slight lift to look proportionate.

[@TRDJon]

I actually has one. It's just tall and looks weird with bigger tires in general imo

[@johncarter8688]

Thanks for buying that Land Cruiser First Edition and taking one for the team, Jon. Glad I got a 24 5th Gen Underground TRD Pro and still loving it.

[@TRDJon]

Of course!!!

[@AndrewMcDonald]

The GX Overtrail is the way to go. Look forward to your reviews.

[@TRDJon]

I’m on it. 👍🏼

[@trailrunnah8886]

Agree about the climate control buttons, that does look really annoying. I like how I can get in my 4Runner and just give it a quick spin. Also, I thought that the space in the bottom of the steering wheel spokes was hollow, I would be totally annoyed as well that it's solid.

[@loug6856]

I agree with all of your points. Another great video. With that being said, I still think the 1958 is the way to go. At $57k, which is a normal price for trucks, it’s the best option IMO. The FE & LC premium feel really over priced.

[@TRDJon]

Thanks man for watching!

[@jeffamburgey7485]

Great review. With all due respect, the 87 Landcruiser that my father put in excess of 300k with just maintenance, also very basic. The motor was adequate, the features basic. I was underwhelmed the first hour behind the wheel. I thought, why does he just rave on this thing. After they put 330k or so on it, they gave it to a farmer up the road, it is still used as a hay wagon. I agree the prices for what you get, etc, but that applies to everything. I drive a 23 LX now, and as nice as it is, there are compromises compared to BMW, Cadillac, Range Rover, they are "more" in some ways. The one thing, and the reason I bought and drive the LX, is the quality. I think they are superior to the last gen LX. Some love the v8, I get it, to each their own. My father, after the mid-80s, refused to buy or discuss any brand except Toyota. I still think they make the best product. I appreciate a review where the critique actually comes from someone that has actually driven or owened the vehicles they comment on.

[@TRDJon]

Yep. Time will tell on how this powertrain is. Excited to see where this is 15 years down the road

[@jeffamburgey7485]

@@TRDJon If I'm still here in 15, that will be the gift, I'll still be driving this, I think they will be great.

[@itstr3y_878]

The heated seats def help a lot when the lower back is hurting after a long day of work lol😅

[@TRDJon]

The are like warm at best on mine.

[@itstr3y_878]

Dang hopefully the 4Runner is better with that because my wife is looking to complete our Toyota household since I have a 22 tundra trd pro. She was looking at the Land Cruiser or the 4Runner. We will see come December. Thanks for the videos they’re informative and enjoyable

[@tmowbray77]

I'm very happy with mine, but most of these are valid points. I wouldn't want the fuel ecomony of the TTV6, and find the power of the current powertrain more than sufficient. Also find the seat warmer to be very effective, but that could be a difference with the cloth seats in my 1958 trim level.

[@TRDJon]

Maybe so for the cloth. Not sure why but ours just is meh.

[@HiPlains1]

I have two heat levels on my 2019 Frontier pro 4X. HIgh is almost too hot. IMO the leather seats on mine is of higher quality then these new trucks. The port injected motor will have no issue going 300K miles. This model 250 will need a 10k turbo far before that. And it literally cost 2X more then what I paid for my P4X. New trucks are such the depreciating assets.

[@tedkite4684]

I agree storage is lacking in the Land Cruiser….my bum warmers are over the top…lol

[@TRDJon]

And I forgot to mention no sunglasses holder.

[@sylviawelsh9518]

Agree they should give 2 options if not three.

[@cyrusjalali1571]

Would love it Toyota dump the hybrid system and place a larger fuel tank. Replace the 4 banger with a v6. Maybe add the European panoramic style roof. Oh heated rear seats too. Then I guess the 70k price tag would make a little more sense.

[@Rooster_king]

Good video 👏 I've been critical of the information presented in some of his videos. But this one was more objective and addressed what Toyota needs to hear. That 5th gen 4runner steering wheel has the best 6 o'clock hold position 😂

[@pericles6390]

Couldn’t agree more Jon. I have your exact vehicle and I am coming up on 10,000 miles. Overall, I am disappointed in the vehicle and Toyota for going cheap on what used to be their flagship vehicle. If I was to summarize my experience, the Land Cruiser is not a good value. For nearly $80,000, I expected much more in the way of quality, options, and luxury features. Instead they cut virtually every corner they could and have cheapened a legendary vehicle. I am contemplating selling mine and buying my fourth forerunner as it seems to have virtually every thing the Land Cruiser does and more for about $10-$15,000 less. Never thought I would say that, but when I compare this Land Cruiser to my 2011 Lexus LX 570, it is a tin can.

[@TRDJon]

Yep! The FE needed just a little bit more man. I do agree. The 4Runner will be a better buy for sure.

[@lorenzosorice]

Every time I've brought in our two toyota's to the dealership for maintenance I check out the new LCs and agreed...they just seem cheap with all these added 10k dealer options. Honestly I'm hoping to get a used GX in a couple years from some soccer mom. Think we'll be much happier with that than a new LC or 4R.

[@RamCruiserOverland]

I like the how the engine delivers power, but the mpg doesn’t get near the EPA rating for us. It’s noise is starting to slowly get more noticeable to me though. We haven’t had any interior rattles like you did (almost 8k miles) but the interior storage is sad. Looks like the new 4runner has more storage pockets everywhere

[@Danni696]

Good honest review.

[@TRDJon]

Appreciate that!

[@Stevespecs]

Wouldn’t take a 70k plus vehicle off road, would have a cheap old truck for off roaring.

[@jacobziegler7102]

Our GX luxury + has been amazing. Premium fuel as well and terrible MPG though.

[@TRDJon]

What MPG you getting?

[@jacobziegler7102]

16.2 😬

[@TRDJon]

Ooooof

[@Xplodebot]

The dash cubby on my sr5 tundra is so nice to have. I also have a safe in my center console. Very nice 👍

[@TRDJon]

Yea even on the Tundra, not sure why they removed that on upper trim levels.

[@mtfishingwizard]

I only have 700 miles on mine and my only complaint is the small gas tank, tiny center console, no grip on volume knob, no grip where your phone goes, and weak power after 60mph.

[@TRDJon]

Valid

[@TheMikeshannon]

First ive heard this but according to drivingsports TV he said toyota told him the fuel change is due to the LC being a global product while the 4r is only the US

[@alexford5214]

I feel you are looking at this the wrong way- Its meant to be the FJ Cruiser successor, to allow people to offload and be spartan. While I agree with you about the cost, Its still just a more luxury wise FJ Cruiser. It has ample torque to off-road and decent platform to go anywhere and build up. Where Im confused in this day of multi-use platforms with cost savings, I was surprised they actually made the 4 cylinder hybrid and not just use that V6 TT, in all of these frames. With the hybrid, its LX-700/ Sequoia level. Without, it's perfect for the LX550 and LC. It makes it a simple set up and you dont lose a ton of room in the back, with that battery. Im actually surprised you didnt dislike that. I saw that immediately and was a no-go. It limits what you can install on the floor and adds weight higher up. I drove both while visiting family in Florida last week and found both to accelerate the same with the GX being a lot smoother. The only edge the hybrid would bring is really low gearing for rock crawling, where smooth grunt of torque is needed to not snap CVs from gunning it. I feel with these reviews, Toyota is going to have a lot of LCs siting around, as the GX simply offers more, in a nicer package, for the same money (when comparing top tiered LC to the GX Over Trail). Overall I was left wondering why Toyota would make these compete against each other. Either they need to really drop the price of the LC or raise the GX550. My wife and I weren't looking for another "FJ" as I went down that rabbit hole previously (Crack Rock Toyeti-you can google it) but rather a good towing platform. The GX out tows the LC and is literally the same as the Sequoia. Thats why were looked at the Defender 110 and Sequoia and our money will be on the GX550 Over Trail (not the + plus) as I feel it offers little extra and still makes you pay more for the premium Mark Levinson stereo, for a lot more money.

[@jake_berry]

I test drove a premium spec and was very disappointed with the wind noise on the highway. I ended up with a Tacoma with the premium package since it was quitter with the acoustic glass and 15k less. At 69k the Landcruiser should be a lot nicer.

[@TRDJon]

The baffles me that this doesn’t have acoustic glass. It would help so much.

[@ItsJSTNDAD]

The plastic trims will inevitably fade away over time, especially after about three years. It's a common issue due to factors like UV exposure, weather, and general wear and tear. Is crazy that is 70k should be in the 45k

[@TRDJon]

Especially if you don't have a good sealant on it.

[@ykkim902]

Question: If a LC250 Land Cruiser trim + Premium Package were priced around 60K-65K then would it be differentiated enough compared to GX550 and worth buying it?

[@BruceWayne-xu5bj]

When we say for “Off-roading,” we aren’t talking about pin stripes my guy. After this starts to enter the used market and people really start having these things with a wider after market, there’s always someone (me) who will take it on John Bull, Moab, broken arrow, gold mountain etc. Like…real off-roading. Not the Florida stuff haha I’m really hoping that some high clearance bumpers (steel) come out soon. Like you mentioned in the video, the rear bumper looks like it will be a problem coming off rocks.

[@TRDJon]

Check out what dissent off road has been doing with their LC! I only said that because that’s people’s main argument for the plastic vs paint matched.

[@BruceWayne-xu5bj]

@ I’ll look em up. Thanks!

[@TRDJon]

It’s on portals too. Wild.

[@mkyhou1160]

Omg - no massaging seats so it sucks… how times have changed.

[@TRDJon]

Yea…it’s $70K.

[@TheEclectic]

I had a feeling Jon would be moving to the GX. I'm currently trying to decide between new 4Runner Trailhunter, GX Overtrail+, and a BMW X5 xDrive50e.

[@TRDJon]

I can’t speak for the BMW, but I’d maybe save $$ and buy the trailhunter honestly

[@Jojo-ni2cg]

Good video Jon, thanks

[@joserodriguez-uq1mr]

Toyota and Lexus gives you options to choose.

[@titogreggy]

I ❤ my 23 trd ORP 5th gen.

[@ktra5031]

My 2024 4Runner has none of these problems at $20k less 😄

[@TRDJon]

These aren’t problems. They are dislikes.

[@danejohnson8430]

Great video! I hate new Gen Toyota trucks! All of them!

[@TRDJon]

Growing pains for sure

[@jeffreyfitch1006]

No, they should have used the drivetrain from the Lexus 600HL, a hybrid 5.0 V8, that gets 22mpg. Would still have a hybrid status, while still giving you a V8 powerplant. People are already gettingn19-22 mpg with the 2.4l anyway, so no real loss for Toyota to do that.

[@johnb-ke9xi]

i'm holding out hope that a tune or some kind of ECU update from Toyota will unlock the power of the LC250 drivetrain. for everyday driving at speed i have zero complaints, but from a stop, this thing just doesn't want to move with any sort of urgency. is it the AWD? I don't know... i have a 2025 Premium BTW. thanks Jon and looking forward to 6th gen driving impressions

[@TRDJon]

That’s where I feel it the most is from a dead stop. The Tacoma is ready to go to get up to speed, not this LC.

[@cowelk]

What is your driving range? I have an 18 gallon fuel tank on my Wrangler and get nearly 400 miles of range. It is a diesel. Even I wish I had a bigger fuel tank for even more range.

[@TRDJon]

It’s like 350 or so if you run it low low

[@ronpearce7198]

Exactly why I am keeping my 5th Gen 4 Runner. Sorry just can't justify almost $25-30,000 more. To me with all the quality control issues I am hearing, Toyota is fading and I am an avid Toyota/Lexus person.

[@nightcrawleroriginal]

Jon, your hand positions should be 10 and 2, or 8 and 4. 8 and 4 is my preferred driving position for both autmobiles and tractor trailers, Very comfortable and less tiring on long hauls. 👍 😊

[@TRDJon]

I do around town. But having them that high for roadtrips does get tiresome for me

[@nightcrawleroriginal]

@TRDJon Jon. I mentioned 8 and 4 which I use personally, 10 and 2 is just a road test thing in the past, up here they approve 8 and 4 now as well. Tilt the steering wheel down or raise your seat up (we have Air Ride in our tractor trailer seats) enough to grab the wheel at 8 and 4 when both arms are resting (permenatly) on the upper part of your legs (hip to knees), gives you great control and its less tiring than 10 and 2, far less tiring. My personal views and how I Drive (everything). 👍 😊

[@dwrivers47]

Hi Jon. I am disappointed in the Land Cruiser - your dislikes are very relatable. Toyota appears to have lost touch with their roots - hopefully it is not too late to correct course and fix the mistakes. Keep up the great content.

[@stevenm6301]

The size of that gas tank is a slap in the face.

[@Sampson_503]

I’d like to hear what your wife thinks of it, my wife has a RAV4 and looking to upgrade after we got a 3rd gen tundra.

[@TRDJon]

She had a rav4 too. She really liked it but this LC has been her favorite car that we’ve owned.

[@Jay-bw3fl]

Jon are you not worried about the reliability of the 3.4 in a gx? There are still 2023 and 2024s failing in the tundra even tho the failures were supposedly “debris”.

[@iwazaru8101]

At almost $9K more expensive than the regular LC250 w/ Premium Pkg, strange that the First Edition didn't come with acoustic glass, massaging seats, and color-matching bumpers and rocker panels. Instead, it has a fancier roof rack, a nicer front skid plate, a cool box, and FE splash guards. Do those things add up to $9K? 🤔🤔

[@TRDJon]

That’s why I’m saying. Mine is an FE. Thank you for recognizing that.

[@arnick2]

Toyota has A LOT of work to do! Next model year had better make some big changes.

[@TRDJon]

And add sun glasses holder!

[@HiPlains1]

Much rather have the Prado with a 2.8 turbo diesel. If I buy GX it would be a clean low mileage 2009 with the bulletproof 4.7 v8. Hopefully Nissan will come out with a new midsize SUV with the 3.8 normally aspirated engine. These new petrol turbo engines add complexity and repairability costs are so much higher now. Toyota's d4d turbo diesel being the exception. It just seems the new Tacoma and this LC 250 we're on a cheap platform. This one has many of the same flaws of the Tacoma being it's sharing the same flawed platform.

[@DennisKrok-s6p]

I am probably biased but my 24 TRD Pro seemed to be more robustly built than the Land Cruiser. Seemed a bit tinny by comparison.

[@HiPlains1]

Your not biased. Literally all the TNGA platforms are massive cost cutting/stream lined trucks to boost margins. None of these hold a candle against a Model 200 LC, last gen 4 runner or a GX 460. Not even close.

[@playmate7638]

18 mpg on a 4 banger hybrid turbo? No thanks. I’ll keep my 5th gen runner. You get 1 mpg more than me and I guarantee my 2016 with 66k miles on it will outlive this thing.

[@TRDJon]

Time will tell. This isn’t a dog though with bigger tires like theb5th gen is though.

[@instantprincewhippet]

Test drove this today. Our Subaru Outback Wilderness engine is smoother and more refined. When I close the front doors, the sound reverb from the thin sheet metal screams cheap. The interior plastics are like a Nissan Altima from the early 2000’s.

[@Steve_MP5]

Toyota is just starting to go downhill and it’s a shame. Didn’t you see where the GX’s paint is bubbling on owners cars? Look it up.

[@TRDJon]

I saw like two people having the issue yes. Very weird.

[@HiPlains1]

Looks pretty bad. And that coming out of Japan as well. Unbelievable drop in quality and reputation.

[@mfer134]

Diaper looks loaded. . . . . . I like it.

[@DariReviews]

Are you having a problem with ac blowing only extreme heat or extreme cold? My FE is doing this and dealer + corporate technicians are currently investigating my LC. Seems like a lot of 2024’s doing this. Maybe a recall on this in the future

[@TRDJon]

Yep!! I can’t remember if i talked about that here or just cut it out of the video cuz I felt I was rambling

[@DariReviews]

@@TRDJon trying to get this on the Toyota corporate radar asap to get a fix in the works. your influence helps!

[@bradcolby3624]

Welcome to the GX 550 family

[@jb1bradley]

The gas tank is my #1 issue. It needs 3-4 more gallons

[@TRDJon]

Yep!

[@Slayerstu]

Normally I wouldn’t believe someone if they have anything negative to say about Toyota but once you said you were 5”11 I believed every word you said.

[@TRDJon]

😉😂

[@maschinedownunder]

When you find the perfect vehicle, please do a review of it and let everyone know what *THE* perfect car is. I'm curious to know.

[@Tundra-pw2cu]

I agree, the GX is a lot better vehicle but the price tag is way too high, out of my budget.

[@TRDJon]

Yea it’s up there. The premium is a decent buy honestly, however the Overtrail gets up there

[@steph9445]

Looks like a great vehicle to own. Just too expensive for me..

[@yeulakho6574]

#1 dislike = 💵 price tag. 4 cylinders angine = for SE Asia market, not 🇺🇲 market. They drive slow over there.

[@coryrood]

In regards to the seats(heat/ventilated) it seems to be a difference between US market vehicles(Tundra, Tacoma, 4Runner, etc.) vs Global market vehicles like the LC and GX. Also in regards to the engine you're looking at it from a US market view. The rest of the world doesn't get the 4Runner. Like it or not in the Global market the 250 doesn't compete with the 4Runner. It is kinda 'rough' though, very buzzy. For the climate control, you can just say 'Hey Toyota, set the climate control to 72 degrees' you don't need to touch the buttons at all. The gas tank complaint will follow on the GX. It's a few gallons bigger, but gets worse mileage. You end up with pretty much the same range.

[@TRDJon]

Yea I’m not sure why they don’t have a 20+ gallon tank. At least theb4R gets a bigger tank which is nice. I always forget about the “hey Toyota” feature.

[@coryrood]

@ it seems be the design philosophy of Toyota, a lot of their new models only have a range off 300ish miles

[@Ash-nz9hi]

Toyota: Put a freaking V8 into the LX with iforce max. Same for Sequoia and remove that stupid third row so we can fold seats down flat. Put the V6 with Iforce max in the GX. The Land Cruiser 250, V6 Turbo and stop being cheap. Give us noise reducing glass on LC and mirrors that don't melt on GX and LC when we put PPV on the car. 4runner do your silly v4 with iforce I guess, but get give a convertible option for God's sake and manual transmission! And bring back the expensive LC 300. I feel like I am in the "Good place" TV show where I almost get what I want, but not really. And while I'm bitching, you need to redo the supra. That just doesn't work.

[@joshknutson16]

I do like the looks of this especially with your wheels / tires but I would still get the Lexus if I was spending my $

[@TRDJon]

Thank you so much!

[@CougarSand-t1v]

Kind of a let down coming from the prior generation. Not saying I dislike the looks, rather I'm coming to my conclusion based on how refined the prior version was, meaning it was soooo far into its product life that Toyota had the opportunity to perfect it. Same for the 4runner--I had a 2016 and now a 2023 and they've added acoustic glass, with the newer one not having any squeaking or rattles--again, they've had time to perfect the product. I suspect all new Toyota models will become more refined with time and increase their reliability, but I cannot recommend anyone go out an buy one of the first year models if they want the long term reliability the old gens and still really good models provide.

[@TRDJon]

For sure, I only buy first year for the content and to help people see the vehicle real world.

[@slappyslaps5643]

This land cruiser 250 or prado just doesn’t make sense in the Toyota lineup IMO. The new 4Runner is the same exact thing if not better. If it was a land cruiser 200, it would live up to its name as long as it distinguishes itself from the sequoia. Like the price tag alone, a sequoia just makes so much more sense

[@TRDJon]

It would with a v6 though

[@timmccall4566]

Powertrain Big center screen (although not as bad as others) All the tech options Push button start No MT option

[@TRDJon]

Man when was the last manual option for an LC?

[@timmccall4566]

​@TRDJon oh I couldn't tell you lol. I just know 4runners for example lost em with either late 2nd or 3rd gen, I forget lol. I enjoy the modern materials like leather and soft touch panels, etc, just not the modern tech. What I wouldn't give for a modern "old car."

[@gunsmokezz]

I test drove it last week. Definitely not worth 100k here in Canada for it. Thing was loud and when I stepped on it , felt like a corrola going up a steep hill. Just sluggish over all. Inside felt like a truck with plastics all over. Was not impressed.

[@TRDJon]

Yea 4R and Tacoma are way more peppy

[@SolidLiquidFox]

People bought a Toyota with a badge that says Land Cruiser. This is not a Land Cruiser. 😂

[@TRDJon]

It’s is. It’s the 250 Series Land Cruiser

[@SolidLiquidFox]

@TRDJon I guess....?

[@TRDJon]

It’s not a guess. That’s the series and what it is lol.

[@SolidLiquidFox]

@@TRDJon 🤔😆

[@aby3549]

Toyota has gone cheap in build quality. So disappointing. I think they think whatever they make, people would buy it over sticker. Such a shame.

[@ashleyfollett7223]

They did add more plastic on the 4Runner to help with the bad rust problem and weight so the engine can perform well

[@arman8097]

Mazda Quality and reliability Value😊

[@LifeCycle1978]

It’s a first gen car, of course there are going to be issues.

[@mtfishingwizard]

Yes, very cheap. Making a car out of plastic and aluminum like every other car made.

[@ToryonDavis]

It's the industry, inflation affects car companies to my friend. Now, there are some shortcuts from Toyota not saying it's not. But, if they made it close to Lexus they would charge more for it. And plus remember they were never supposed to bring this vehicle to the United States. Pretty much it was an aftermarket thought. This is the bottom of the barrel Land cruiser, the 200 series so remember this also!