5 Reasons why you should NOT do FFXIV Savage Content...

[@toodleselnoodos6738]

Great advice! While I had fun doing Pandemonium savage (my first time ever doing that in FF14) with friends, the stress and time commitments did tire me out. And I’ve done call-outs for Hyd EX as the healer. That…was rough, especially when a lot of folks are still learning the fight and you have to cycle around keeping folks up, i go full auto mode meaning i forget to tell folks the mechanics and…now it’s not just the BRD that’s dead. It is great and fantastic! The feeling of accomplishment when *as a team*, you take down the boss. It’s extremely fulfilling and exciting. Thanks again Stefan!

[@BunBossFFXIV]

Thank you toodles!

[@pasteldreams5413]

Can relate, especially if your team mates are a bit slow on the uptake. I had that during the last savage tier, and I got pretty burnt out around E11S (I was a healer doing all the call-outs for our static.) I'm hoping I won't get tired this time because I really want all those shiny weapons!

[@BazzFreeman]

Excellent guide! Some background: I raided hardcore in WoW for several years, starting with ICC, Ulduar, all the way through to MoP. Now, I'm 65, I don't have the reflexes or frankly, the mental capacity anymore for learning 10-12 current strats within a couple of weeks. I figure I've done my time at the sharp end. Thankfully, FFXIV has content for EVERY level and discipline of player. My real favourite thing is the Alliance raids. I still die a lot, forget mechanics and make stupid mistakes that annoy me, but as long as I'm not actually terrible, no one really cares. I get to see quite a few funny rez messages as well. Savage, Ultimates and even current Extremes require the patience and discipline to put in the hours to progress. No shade if you can't, or don't want to. Me, I'm so happy with the story and the community that it helps me relax after a hard days work. Honestly, this is the best game I've ever played.

[@mewtje3095]

None of these were harsh imo, theyre pretty solid advice and very, very honest. Savage is quite a time commitment. Not only are you raiding to progress, but youre also in need to schedule reclears, homework time, and communicate with your static members openly about what you need and where improvements need to be made. So, with this in mind, if youre having static time twice a week, that is easily 4-6h of time you need to plan in every week for this content.

[@bismarck2537]

This is why I usually never complete an entire tier. As I’ve gotten older I don’t have nearly as much time to commit to doing savage content. Progging can take a while in pf bc skill variation exists and every group is random. Playing with a static is too restrictive and I don’t want to feel like I’m going to work when I just want to have fun and get strong gear. I usually just clear the 1-2 of the fights and just chill until coins become available to bump up weekly vendor gear to get close to bis along with some extreme weapons.

[@andyd3447]

I tried to do Savage ONCE in this game. Keep in mind this was the DAY they came out so i thought people wouldnt know all the mechanics. I even looked in the party finder for people who said new prog. So when i got in i asked ONE question about the strategy the entire group disbanded and kicked me? That was so rude and i never went back. This is the part of the community that nobody talks about, people are really rude and obnoxious. Even in extremes people are really cool but savage truly is something i think most NON hardcore people should stay away from.

[@tuck295q]

You suppose to watch the guide or tutorial video before jumping in anything.

[@andyd3447]

@@tuck295q what? The raid had JUST come out about 3 hours before?

[@rokesilva]

@@andyd3447 Patch day is a wild ride, most people are chill enought to just prog together but when people are outside the instance or waitting in queue a lot of em tune into the world prog streamers to steal strats to make prog faster so thats prob y ... It was prob mentioned in PF somewhere which streamers strat they were using but either that does seem rather extreme. If its of any confort they might have disbanded to grab friends that are now available to do the fight , so it might not even be related to anything u did.

[@andyd3447]

@@rokesilva The description was "Chill prog, learning party, come join, lets have some fun" I didnt misinterpret anything. If its a learning party you should be able to ask one question.

[@rokesilva]

@@andyd3447 I very much doubt the situation had anything to do with your actions this being the case , more then likely they had a friend coming in to take your spot and the situation was handled poorly by not communicating that to you.

[@HikariKirameku]

I wish I could run Savage, but my main issue is the time commitment. I used to raid in WoW, and I'm sure it needs just the same amount of time. At least FF14 has normal mode for people who just want to see the story, and so I've settled for that. There's always the next expac to backtrack and try Savage content I skipped. I'd say damage rotation learning issues might also be a thing, but I play Dancer, so outside of a few set buttons, my DPS is reliant on RNGsus.

[@k9tirion927]

The time commitment is a lot less, outside of the raiding itself where you have control in what static you chose or going through partyfinder (do not recommend lol) your character maintenance is a lot lower than in WoW (tomestone cap, that's it.), for me it even completely stopped and I only raid log since several weeks effectively taking 5-6 hours per week. Obviously set times for a static are still very restrictive and not possible for many people, I just wanted to say this because while I wasn't able to sustain more serious raiding in WoW it's not a problem for me in FF, thank god.

[@HikariKirameku]

@@k9tirion927 That's cool. I'd basically have to find a weekend only static just because my job hours aren't really good for most people (that second-shift life, lol). But honestly? I took a 7 year hiatus from the game, and there's still SO much for me to do and see that missing out on Savage isn't the end of the world. I'm more looking forward to the Alliance raid, tbh

[@tuck295q]

Yah, once I completed weap from E8S, I told myself In too old now 😂

[@deannavest8887]

Ahhh see.. this is the advice I needed. I haven’t rage quit, but I HAVE embarrassed quit. I went through the whole game without playing healer at all. And then I unlocked Sage so I picked that up and did quite a few duty supports as sage and once I felt I got the hang of it, I Q’d for a live dungeon. Tank died on the first trash pool and I got so embarrassed that I had failed at healing that hard I immediately left the dungeon and logged out. Now I’m a lvl 89 sage and regularly do roulettes as sage. So I’m thinking i maybe shouldn’t even try the ultimate stuff but :( I really want to try, at least once.

[@austins.2495]

I tried Sage out when I recently turned 70, put my hot bar together, read all of the skills. It took me about an hour to complete the first job quest mission for Sage 😂 I just didn’t get the rotation at all. I’m a little better now, but dayumn. I’m just glad no one was around to see it

[@alexc2713]

My experience is no one wants to to teach for savage content. The most thing I hear is if you don’t how to play do not come in.

[@pasteldreams5413]

Very few people will go out of their way to teach randoms how to do a current tier savage fight. Savage is very reliant on team work; if one single person messes up at the wrong time, you wipe or die to enrage. That is why you join a static, so you can prog the fights with a consistent team and learn with them. You can't expect someone to teach you; the closest you can get to that is a guide.

[@alexc2713]

@@pasteldreams5413 That way of doing thing is incorrect. Everyone was a newbie wipe the them. When they are more experienced they refuse for teaching because they don’t want to be wiped? How selfish. This is what I am seeing today.

[@k9tirion927]

@@alexc2713 There are early phase practice groups for that. And for partyfinder you absolutely should look over a guide, it's less then 10 minutes of reading for concise and practical information someone could never give you this fast/visually good in the partyfinder chat, that's the reason.

[@alexc2713]

@@k9tirion927 Those practice party I tried never welcome inexperience player. The want someone already did the fight with progress. That what happened to me. Also, console players are not welcome because they can not use ACT.

[@naif9464]

Alex Chang first time I’ve heard that. “Console players aren’t welcome”? If you know your job and can keep your rotation going, you’ll get a blue parse easily which is the average for clearing fights anyways. Can get a friend with ACT to upload your logs so you can keep improving, too

[@methodkid93]

I've always been like 1 expansion behind everyone else. I'm hoping to be able to catch up during Endwalker, find a couple of jobs to main, and start doing harder content. So far I'd say BLM and BRD are my favourites on the current patch 💥🏹

[@Verdugo_Arulaq]

I’m a filthy casual so already I’m not onboard lmao Putting memes aside None of these particularly dissuade me. I don’t mind chat, a static/friend group, I already do tons of research on raids, trials, and dungeons so to add savage isn’t a problem I’m just not interested cause I like casual content

[@LordXavius]

Beautifully said! as a player who just joined in August 2021 I didn’t really get into any savage content pre-endwalker. But I wanted to dive in and it was so scary and cumbersome. Took a bit to get through some static trials and get a group i meshed with and felt had the same level of commitment. Your tips were spot on and I hope people hear it. Loved the ending too, you’re so positive and supportive Stefan!

[@alexrosario423]

hmm. I would say there's a high up-front sink of time to get decent at raiding. With some experience, you'll start to group different mechanics that, although may be visually very different, require you to do similar or identical movements are actions, and sort of begin to streamline your learning so that you're able to consolidate large amounts of information into useful "cliff notes" that are easy to keep in your head. From then on, doing the fights a bit becomes a much shorter process of tweaking your understanding and execution of the fight so that you can kill it. As for your rotation- It starts to feel like a sort of dance with the fight. You have to sink the time in on a training dummy initially, then every now and again to keep it fresh, but eventually it works its way into muscle memory. You don't have to be absolutely perfect every time (although you'll want to be, and sometimes will which feels good), the most important thing is to minimize downtime. That means always be pressing something as often as you can given a fight's mechanics. Having this focus in mind, you'll start to associate parts of the fight with parts of your rotation which makes executing both actually easier, since they then become cues to one another. all of this is to say is that you can casually do savage content at a decent level with minimal time investment over the long run, but in the short run you do have to sink in a lot more time depending on how quick of a learner you are. It won't be forever, so you can still have plenty of time to keep up with many other things, but you should be aware that initially you do have to put in some productive hours. it still may not work out for some people, but I think it's important to point out that it's less of a long-term time commitment than what you're making it out to be. I raid 4 hours a week, that's for both progress and reclears, and I've cleared the whole tier pugging in party finder.

[@Blazingbeard]

Nr 2 for sure! Thnx for the vid. It helps to be realistic about savage❤. Wanna try but just not a lot of time, wanting to try out/ lvl every job and crafter/ gatherer. And balancing playing FF14 and Elden Ring 😅.

[@inb4loss]

I really think it's also nice to get into savage when they turn on echo. Then you can do it in PF with pretty reliable success as you join prog parties that are at the point in the fight you are. PF is also pretty reliable once you are a confident savage raider as long as you're making sure to do it on Tuesday/Wednesday when most people that are comfortable getting weekly reclears are doing it.

[@crowofcainhurst]

The only savage raid I did was E1S - E12S after that I don't think I ever want to do savage anymore the time commitment is just too much for me to the point I couldn't enjoy my relaxing weekend anymore I work 9-5 jobs from monday to friday and my weekends usually for hanging out with my friends or visiting my parents but because at that time I really want to try savage I ended up getting obsessed with it and losing all that precious time I could've spent with my friends and family. Looks like hardcore gaming is not for me anymore now that I'm an adult with jobs and need to maintain relationship with friends and family gaming shouldn't be something that gets in the way of life. I wish I had this game back when I was teenager when I had nothing to prioritize other than school and gaming.

[@alextodd1046]

This year was the 1st year I started savage as I finally caught up on the story. Savage is such a large jump in both difficulty and skill requirement. It's frustrating and a huge time commitment but once you learn each mechanic and start to play your role perfectly you get such a sense of achievement and really start to notice how much you've improved. Currently stuck on P3S.

[@YuriusSan]

as a Savage raider whos been doing savages since ARR, take this video with a grain of salt. All of these points he makes can be worked around and the DPS checks become very forgiving after the first couple of weeks.

[@BunBossFFXIV]

You must have not watched till the end lmao

[@YuriusSan]

@@BunBossFFXIV totally.

[@johnwood5148]

It’s almost like he literally said that at the end😂

[@therookgames5724]

Great info! I’m only a year into my FFXIV journey and it’s been my mission to eventually be an endgame Raider. I respect the grind and dedication but just don’t know where to start. Looking forward to your “How to get into Savage Raiding” guide!

[@watercatseal1305]

Why do you want to scare new player away from savage? I just start playing this game around 5.55 patch so pandaemonium is my first current savage tier. I use party finder to clear P3S on the first week and a few weeks to prog P4s. It totally doable without static and voice chat, imagine how many introvert that will never try savage because of advice like this. Practice party on savage content is actually very friendly to new players (at least on P1S and P2S where DPS check is not that tight).

[@BunBossFFXIV]

HAHA, You must not have watched the whole video :)

[@watercatseal1305]

@@BunBossFFXIV I watch the whole vid, that why I use the word "scare player away from savage" because that what you tell in the last part what is the point of the first part of the vid.

[@BunBossFFXIV]

@@watercatseal1305 You apparently are one of the very few who are misinterpreting that part and taking it at face value without analyzing the video as a whole. The players who take for granted what savage consists of and not only waiste there time and the time of the other players who truly want to learn and better are the people who should be scared away. The people who will jump in with no research, no integrity and a poor piss attitude for the thrill of it, is who should be scared away. People who don't care about others time in game. Dare I say, the jerks of the community who just get a thrill outta be a dick. and yes, there are those who are out there who do just that for the fun of it. Which is why I stated, Savage is for anyone who is willing to put the time, determination, focus on learning the content, although minute and not all that is hard for actual players who take an ounce of time for learning.

[@jennywakeman5049]

@@BunBossFFXIV While I agree with the general point you're trying to make, part of what you mentioned in the first point of the video feels immensely exaggerated and is more pointed which might alienate players from even bothering to try it. Like yeah, you need to understand your rotation but you do not need to be perfect, and the more a group can kill at least one boss per week it will get easier. My static isn't perfect players by any stretch but we still got P4S down in the first three weeks. A lot of what helped us was just gear helping us live things and having more wiggle room. If you were first weeking Hesperos, yeah it's a tight enrage. Now we can have deaths and be perfectly fine provided it's not during when they have a tether. People have a tendency to see that, and especially since you painted it to be much worse than it actually is and will just avoid it entirely seeing the barrier of entry much higher than it actually is. Eureka has this same problem, not many do it despite numerous nerfs to make it easier and more accessible. People still hear about how bad it was in Stormblood and don't bother thinking they need to be a super elite neckbeard to clear BA, they don't. Had you left it at like "you need to be a bit better on your job possibly but that's to be expected since it's higher difficulty content" then it would have been fine. Except you went in with "Every mistake will be analyzed, if you screw up your rotation you will hear about it." It's Savage, not Ultimate. Further on that, my group isn't perfect with raid buffs, we still clear weekly, no player is perfect, hell we still have someone go braindead on Erichtonios and wipe us once a week. You absolutely do not need to be a perfect player to do Savage which is what most people will infer from just your first minute of video. You also mention something regarding these things like perfect usage of CDs should be second nature before going into Savage. . . ehh I disagree and here's why. While it would be preferable, they're going to have to learn it anyway. Part of what really helped me get better on Reaper was doing Savage because it taught me how to be less strict on my timings and actually make informed decisions regarding the boss and work around these things. If my circle is perfectly timed on P2S, I'll waste half of it on the third circle when the boss goes into his limit cut charge mechanic where he's untargetable. Some of these things you actually do need to experience to learn, and while it can be a trial by fire, usually it serves as a good motivator for people to push their limits.

[@Mikewright143]

We have a person in our static that just mutes herself and listens in discord we also have a 52 year old fc member that has learned most savage fights anyone can do it

[@sonicroze]

Numbers are scary. I thought the last time I would be scared of numbers was Math Boss in Gough.... but NO! :D Parsers terrified me at first. My DPS is still admittedly low, but I've been steadily improving my ABC, been taking fewer damage downs, dying less, and I will be better. This week we're going to clear P2S. I believe we can. I started doing high end content - mostly Extremes at first - because of Triple Triad. I wanted that mount, and at least one of the items I needed dropped exclusively from an Extreme fight. It ... is also why my Dragoon looks so good now as a side effect... and my Paladin Eurekan Glam and... Well anyway, I made friends from Party Finders I was in, and I started "getting gud" not just for my benefit, but for others. I love helping sprouts, but I also Love supporting my friends, so if they want to do harder content, I'm there... as long as they'll have me. And Now I can take things I've learned to my more casual friends :)

[@TheBattleMarine249]

Just find a group with a similar skill level to you and it's always a fun time. I'm more of a hardcore player, but playing with a casual group can be fun as well, it just depends what YOU want out of raiding

[@miomiomeows]

I disagree with how you phrased number 1. You make it sound like you have to be perfect with your rotation starting out, which you absolutely do not have to be. You have to be competent, yes, and know the basic rotation of your job, but a willingness to practice, learn, and improve will carry you through savage just fine. By the time you get to the last fight of your first tier you'll be a much better player than you were when you started.

[@just_radical]

Yeah I had an issue with how he said that one too. You could def clear the first couple fights of the tier with a "good enough" rotation and if the choice is between doing the mechanic properly and doing your rotation ALWAYS choose the mechanic even if it means missing several gcds or messing up a burst window. You only really need to worry about doing rotations perfectly if you're going to be reclearing week after week because either your static will get frustrated at your lack of willingness to improve or party finder people will start blacklisting your for griefing. But if you just want to beat the fight, do what you have to do to survive because imperfect dps is better than dead no dps or debuffed rezzed dps.

[@USMC49er]

Why I don't do Savage raids anymore: I'm patient enough to learn the mech along with my static. I am impatient to wait for others to learn, especially when one person dies at the same part the entire static day. I literally beat E1-4S with a pug group and made more progress in 3 hours than I did in three weeks. Then I realized I wasn't having fun anymore.

[@celestielsigh]

You have to find the static that is at your level and I'm sure you'll enjoy it again

[@diskuslars7527]

These advices arent harsh..they are true. I progressed in WoW in the Top 100 Guilds before i came to 14 doing Savage and Ultimate (yeah..i know..many 14s hates us Progressaddicted) and one of the Majorkeys is time. I am 40 Years old and you have to made a clearly decision if your Free Time is worth it or not. It is like another Hobby where you need to invest your time. There are a lot of people i think shouldnt do savage Holding the other 7 back cause of Lack of time or skill. When progging there are usually 2-3 Raids a 3 hours a Week,and next to that you have to spent time doing other things like Rotationpractice, Encounterstudy etc You need at least 9-15 hours a week when you want to prog srsly. If you dont want to or are not able to...absolutely no Problem. But then just stay away from Endgameraiding

[@toychristopher]

You should add to this list: "If you crave praise." Some people who do savage content seem to solely be motivated by needing others to worship them. I've run into people who get angry and defensive if you don't "respect" their savage raiding accomplishments. Personally, I don't even really get dealing with the time commitment for savage content when there are so many other things to do in game.

[@bismarck2537]

Definitely, it’s kinda cool being seen as very strong with savage gear, and doing way higher dps. However I don’t really see the point in completing savage tiers when you can just get coins during the following patch. It’s just not worth the time or effort. Sometimes I don’t even do my weekly reclears for ps1 and ps2, because I just don’t feel like it’s worth it. It’s even more discouraging if you haven’t been able to get coffers in weeks or maybe even over a month. I’m pretty sure you can get close to being 600 item level in 6.1 just from getting coins and getting the new trial weapons. At the end of the day no one cares if you’re item level is above 590 tbh. It’s only to make you feel good about yourself.

[@zaalemyzrea8739]

My personal problem was binding myself to specifc times (getting into a static) and progging in the party finder was just...eh. Cleared quite some savage raids right when they came out and my understanding of mechanics is solid enough to get through fine, but often enough it looks like Person A: when you get this debuff you gotta do that Person B: says nothing *ready check goes throgh* *Person B messes up the mechanic* *repeat until party disbands*

[@celestielsigh]

People really need to not be afraid to kick the person messing up repeatedly rather than having the whole party disband

[@tuck295q]

Time, stress, alternative currencies, unreliable PF, language barrier (depends on your region), drama

[@NocturneNox1]

You can week one prog in party finder you just need to have the gear

[@lens_hunter]

Yup, I dont do Savage because it's too much of a time sink for not much payoff.

[@sebastianrook5478]

1. Because I'm not that good. That's it.

[@arielallen9478]

have had a few unpleasant people to fill in some of our empty slots when we were doing savage (we started as a full group but life and adulting can just get in the way so we ended up with 4 of us still around regularly) but for the most part we have had a lovely experience. i had only just started savage raiding in pandaemonium so we always try to put that we were a learning group or a new to savage so people would hopefully cut us some slack :p

[@aaartvv]

Like playing any ranked match in any games. Don’t expect to be carried. Study the fight get good and don’t waster others or your time. Otherwise don’t bother doing it or just do it with the like minded party who enjoy the grind and will go easy on each other during the progression. The day will come and the boss on farm, enjoy that first-kill moment with your group! Priceless!

[@christianc8929]

I am not a good fit for savage level and never will 😂 People on this level of gaming are crazy!

[@SaisMoon]

I’m 99% on board. Number 1 is bit tricky. I only say this, as a caster DPS job, who uses a combo of pots, interchangeable gear, materia, other consumables. I can’t tell you how many times I had other complain about my combo rotations, till they see why, I do them. Research is a caster best friend.

[@totalgravityshow2129]

As someone who's done P1s and P2s so far, and is about to start P3s, I have a few things to say. I'm not trying to hate on this video or anything, I just have a few opposing opinions. 1. I know that you mention pf in a later part of the video but...When you were talking about statics in reason 2, you made made it sound like it was mandatory to have a static to even get started or touch savage. I'm just wanna say this: You DO NOT need a static to complete savage. In fact, ALL of my clears/reclears were through pf. The truth is either one works and they both have their pros and cons. Yes, pf can/will take a bit longer to complete. Yes every group is random, but that's not always a bad thing. But here's the thing...If you're not trying to clear the whole tier at week 1 of it's release, and want your Bis by week 8, then again, you DO NOT need a static. If all you care about is getting the fights down whenever you feel like it or have the time for and those weekly tokens, then the best choice is pf. 2. You DO NOT need a high parse or top damage to complete savage. You should know your opener and rotation tho. To an extent, damage can matter but your parse does not mirror your skill of the job. I main SAM, which was top dmg (until 6.1 hit T.T rip Kaiten). I did my rotation, opener, Food buff, positionals, etc. In other words I play the job properly and most of the time will be top damage out of the 4 dps in the group but will STILL have a gray or green parse, while even sometimes the LOWEST dps in the group will have a blue or purple parse. I even seen Ultimate clear logs where top dps had a gray parse. It really does not matter, and about 90% of savage players DO NOT care about your parse. Idc about people's parse. No one in my groups talk about it. The ones that do care usually make separate pf groups specifically just for parsing. 3. Reason number 4. I mean, if you want to learn the fight blind, that's perfectly fine. But still, why WOULDN'T you look up guides for the fight? Savage is suppose to be the second hardest content in the game behind Ultimates. Because of that of course you're supposed to do "homework." Of course you need to prepare. And if that's too much for someone, then I don't mean to sound harsh, but that's a them problem. Wanna do hard content? Put the work in. And you don't even need to do all of the work either, even the bare minimum is better that nothing. This was never an issue for me as someone who raided heroics in wow. Again, I'm not trying to hate on this video, in fact, it does have some valid and reasonable points. And if you read this far, I'm not trying to force people into savage or disagree with this video. If you don't want to do savage, then that's perfectly fine too. It's your choice. I just made this comment for people who watched the video, but are still aren't sure if they want to do savage or not. Keep up with the good content ^-^

[@patroX123]

I can’t wait for your video on how to prepare for savage. I’ve only been playing for about 3 months but I want to get into savage later down the line… Maybe in a year or two 🤪 cause I have a looooong way to go haha

[@BunBossFFXIV]

I mean not really, you can do savage pretty soon, as long as you beat the game and get one job maxed out which isnt all that hard once you reach there. I am working on the video now!

[@Blazingbeard]

One prediction for preparing for savage I think is doing extremes... Hope I'm right 🤞

[@Gbergman]

I would love to do savage, I just don’t have the time

[@mythgaminggd8096]

People really need to stop putting savages on some unreachable pedestal. For the first point knowing your rotation is something everyone should already know no matter what content you do. you do not need to be fully optimized to do savages thats just a parser thing. the majority of clears for savages are grey parses. second you do not need a static you can literally pf every single savage no problem and you do not need discord. you also do not need to do homework to clear anything a five minute youtube video to get a grasp is just enough. nobody really sits here and looks at there parses and shit like that in this context. the people watching this are people who are scared to do savages not people who are optimizing the fights already. The only thing you need discord for is a new ultimate everything else is pfable without discord This video is making the barrier of entry way harder than it needs to be and alot of the points are as if the people watching this are optimizing to parse. If youre optimizing to parse you arent gonna watch something like this cause youre not scared of savages.

[@BunBossFFXIV]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnnyveng4014]

Never have I regretted being an over the road truck driver more than since I started playing FFXIV last August. Can't be in any statics! Major suckage.

[@louisking3459]

I'm in the same boat. Heavy hauler, working most of the time. I can only play casually. My FC wants me to join their savage raids but I'm so far behind it's not even funny. I'm still trying to make the iLvl 610 crafted gear😄. Best ti can do is watch a KZbin video right before I join the raid because I got drive the next day.

[@ttabood7462]

I like a challenge but I'm not a masochist. It amazes me that people can sit through a trial after wiping 20 times and still give 100%. Kudos to them!

[@gogglezzz9897]

I would only do casual for savage, and i love callouts on voice chat BUT team needs to have some humour to keep it fun. But i HATE when ppl try to box me into a job role and thats not what the game is about. Like the jobs system isnt so diverse just for ppl to be boxed into certain roles. Thats when i quit and play other games cos i just wanna have fun (but i have mhw and elden ring as alts lol plus forbidden west)

[@Aries73]

FFXI killed any and all desire to do any endgame activities beyond story content. Between the devs doing their damndest to make mages’ lives miserable, tryhards littering the voice chat with every form of verbal abuse known to humankind, and gatekeepers consistently violating the no parser rules, I fail to see the benefits of making myself angry in my own home. The 47 KZbin channel has enough videos of people with anger issues without me joining the fray.

[@M.M.Morris]

I just don’t want to make people mad at me if I mess up. 😂😂😂

[@shanehunt3019]

I'm probably gonna hang the hat on 14 when I finish the story. I don't understand the markets, housing is incredibly meh, raiding just sounds like a hassle having to depend on 7 other players and I have other games I want to get to like FFXI.

[@ponds812]

Dont be like Stefan be a gigachad and raid savage! Savage is love, savage is life!

[@BunBossFFXIV]

😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@BunBossFFXIV]

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[@ponds812]

@@BunBossFFXIV 👍

[@kazim9768]

All these reasons are good but I feel like the biggest reason to not do savage is because it’s not worth it. I did my first raid tier in the beginning of endwalker and I cleared all the way to P3S. As I geared up I quickly realized that it just wasn’t worth the time invested. I completely lost motivation and didn’t even clear P4S. It takes way too long to clear the fights and gear up and the Ilvl increase is underwhelming. It also doesn’t help knowing next patch there’s going to be catch up gear anyway so I felt like I was wasting my time.

[@CmonstahxD]

P3s was the destroyer of statics, and arguably one of the most hated fights in endwalker . But p4s is soooo much more fun and rewarding I have never had so much fun in a fight in ff as that . I'm currently progging p8s but I just started and I'm working on ultimates so we will see if they live up to the hype.

[@shahzarkhan9128]

What about high ping? I want to do extreme and savage but sometimes my ping goes way too high and i have to plan before mechanics happen in normal mode lol

[@k9tirion927]

If it's a stable high ping you can search for a plugin called "alexander", it helps players with high ping to still do double weaves or single weaves in 1.5second gcds. If it's unstable ping you might not be able to properly play.

[@shahzarkhan9128]

@@k9tirion927 I'm on console! It's mostly stable just sometimes i feel like i'm definitely out of AOEs and still get hit.I'm saving up for a PC so i'll switch to that version.

[@kadian299]

I decided I wanted to do savage in ew after not touching it since hw pf nightmares. I asked a handful of friends and had a group ready to go in mid February after we had been clearing 1 and 2 separately in pf. Just cleared p4s this past weekend. It’s a ride and completely different from everything else in ff. But I’ll glad I did it. We are… uhhh… looking at uwu next. Maybe!

[@isateasane]

for everyone saying they dont have time, just wait for guides to come out then pf em. i used to do it in pf when i had less time bc you dont have to commit to a schedule. even ultimates can be progged in pf.

[@georgef6573]

I cleared p1s-4s in 3 weeks on pf

[@curemoonlight4509]

@@georgef6573 But what about late pf? Just chill and do nothing? Zero groups for p5s.

[@RaynexD]

Savage, Ultimates, Extreme (EW ex tho i already did my first clear on Zodiark EX with my practice group and the upcoming Endsinger EX), Unreal contents is not for me even with unsync and im not a midcore or hardcore raider . Im a casual player.

[@BernkastelWitch1]

I stopped doing it because I tried my absolute hardest to get clears but due to miscommunication with my FC, it caused drama and they refuse to help me in it now and I tried to do it in PF and it was a disaster. A combination of no one, not even my FC giving me a chance at all to even Savage and seeing toxicity from players made me go "Not worth it.". All of it killed my passion I had for raiding before I even cleared a tier. To me, if no one is giving me a chance to learn I may as well not do the content at all.

[@nightfall22]

I look forward to savage

[@AllanCampo]

That's it I'll be a casual forever.😓

[@herny45]

I just stick with pf. Statics is just pf but ur stuck with them.

[@BunBossFFXIV]

bless your heart hahah

[@Sllandre]

This is my experience with statics exactly.

[@toychristopher]

Statics are definitely overrated.

[@SpawnOfJenova]

I'm sorry for the statics that hurt you. There's no way, I'd go back to pf after being with a static. Those are my boys and we clear or wipe together.

[@pasteldreams5413]

I used to pf. But then I joined a static and made friends, and haven't gone back since. If you have a good static, it beats pf in every way, shape, and form. Tho, it do be like that if you have static mates that are just... a bit slow.

[@bransonchic678]

I love your advice number 1 and 2 hits close to home for me. Lol, trying to get into nursing school takes alot of my time along with other irl things. I tend to blow my ogcds alot in dungeons and trials lol. Maybe i'll savage someday :) .

[@tristanvandermerwe9274]

I never actually comment on any KZbin video, but I just wanna say I love your content and hope it keeps on coming

[@dmen0563]

I only do them unsynced for mounts tbh

[@SakuraWulf]

Let's be honest, you're quitting on yourself by devoting time to gaming. Not if you rage quit.

[@eftultima]

I gave up on Savage when i realized my gear didnt matter once the next expansion comes out

[@georgef6573]

You just should do it for fun. And the gear lasts for 6 months and its just something to do

[@WittyCorvian]

Generally less hassle to do savage at least 1 expansion later if you don't want the commitment on release

[@nerothos]

Eh, I mostly disagree with all of these. All you need to do savage is A) a willingness to learn and B) the ability to not get demoralized for failing things.

[@Linuana]

I'm just too stupid for savages. or extremes.

[@BunBossFFXIV]

I straight feel the same, cant be pretty and smart

[@Linuana]

@@BunBossFFXIV Can't relate, no pretty from my side. XD

[@andrewclear8905]

I play on ps5 and don’t give a damn about parses.

[@one_eyeddd473]

If anyone wants to form a savage raid static reply to me on this comment. I play on cactuar. Atticus Blackstone

[@deyon100]

Then you ramp it up even more in ultimate

[@Nova_363]

Have to agree in retrospect. I joined a guild with some of my friends to do Savage since I love 14. Had no idea what to expect since I’ve never done hardcore raiding before in an MMO. The content is weird… It feels so disconnected from the rest of the game. You go from the most casual MMO on the market to the most Hardcore. With just how hard it is, the time commitment, how much Gil it costs, I quit. There is obviously an audience for content like this, but selfishly I just don’t understand why it exists. 90% of the game is incredibly casual and Savage content just doesn’t seem to fit in with whole, it’s just weird. I’d advise any new players who are thinking of doing Savage to be careful before going in. Understand that to do well you have to have a love and fixation for raid mechanics and it has to become a proper hobby, unlike the drop in/out content that permeates the rest of the game.

[@johnnyveng4014]

It exists just for those people who get excited at insane challenges and have the coordination, dedication, and reflexes to back that up. Hardcore raiders are truly a different breed.

[@zairman]

I don't do it cause I don't find it fun at all. Tried one out the other day with the FC and we must have wiped 15 - 20 times and they called it 'learning'. Yeah, maybe it is. I just find it to be repetitive, annoying, and boring.

[@izuna-chan]

I don't have a friend to try to do this😢😭

[@BunBossFFXIV]

Oh no izuna Chan! One day you will :)

[@yellowspike3344]

You can try party finder. Just a couple of important terms and things to know, true north, boss relative and for position intercardinal are always dps while healers take west and east, tanks north and south. Don't be like me that never played mmo in my life and didn't know what the fuck i was doing, i embarrassed myself first day but it wasn't too bad.

[@boopthief2668]

I’m just a fan of sav raids in general

[@Bluedis]

How about extreme?

[@BunBossFFXIV]

Video is out about extremes :)

[@youmu7524]

Savage/ultimate is the only fun content this game has.

[@BunBossFFXIV]

😂😂

[@Korelon7]

Never pug savage. A lot of fucking bad players out there that will just waste your time or expect to get carried

[@jamierose9095]

Savage content is badly designed.

[@dragonhearthx8369]

On the rotation section. Schooling others on "why that was a dps loss, just leads to the toxicity of the game.i don't put up with it and will leave if that happens unprovoked

[@matteagle9780]

For me its simple Doing raids seems like you take a 2nd job just to get stuff a bit earlier for me(besides ppl who have fun with it). So no thanks. I want to play a game and not sitting around with some ppl learning the same stuff over and over til my monkey brain just reacts. And dont get me wrong here, if you enjoy it go for it it is your game for me its just a turn off when looking at all the stuff to handle it.

[@ImIncluded166]

My thoughts exactly tbh even ex trials i can't be bothered doing tbh dont have alot of time... I just usually log in do some dungeons maybe a raid and thats it I respect the people who do savage tho 👏

[@vasilisvenompapadopoulos]

If you not have a static, you not even try Savage on PF. PF is toxic AF, at least on Savages. I stop play savage on Shadow ringers and boi, what a relif. You not even need the best gear for any content. Well, unless if you run the Ultimate i guess. 😆

[@AshTreeDweller]

Should be required watching for people who want to try Savage content.

[@BunBossFFXIV]

HAHAHAHA Yea I know what you mean, I had the weirdest convo with a not even new player, but she was like I want to just trying savage for fun, I was like ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm welp good luck haha she had no idea on how to prepare or what it was even. She thought it was fine to just jump, no materia meld no nothing.

[@AshTreeDweller]

@@BunBossFFXIV I know it sounds hard but it is a commitment you are making to 7 other people. Just like when you queue up for 4 person duties it’s a commitment to 3 other people. It takes some measure of selflessness to play well in group content. I’d say I’d even take a selfless player over a person who’s a pro at their job. At least I know that selfless player will want to learn and hang tight through wipes. I think you laid it out pretty well in your video. Great video!

[@keonrichards1083]

I play how I want can’t no one say shit😭

[@EllDavis]

I never liked Raiding. All this Elitist stuff and Players fighting each other.

[@ThatJaMzGuy]

I mostly do it too piss off the hardcores I have no idea what I’m doing so wen I can I spam living dead n blackest night

[@k9tirion927]

This means you're still stuck on P1S and can't even get into reclear groups, so technically you're just pissing off players on your level who just try P1S for funsies. A great way to play yourself *clap*.

[@celestielsigh]

So you willingly go in, play like trash and have people associate your name with being a trash player? I don't think you're pissing anyone off but you're definitely embarrassing yourself 🤣