5 Reasons Why You Should Stop Taking Advice From Bass Forums!!

Navigating the Noise: A Reality Check on Bass Guitar Forums. In this video, we delve into the world of online bass guitar forums and discuss some of the challenges that users may face.
We’ve all seen it - forums filled with misinformation, bad advice, and unfortunately, a few individuals who aren’t as knowledgeable as they claim to be. This video aims to shed light on these issues and provide viewers with the tools to discern valuable advice from the noise.
Remember, not all advice is created equal. It’s essential to cross-check information, consider the source, and most importantly, use your judgment. After all, what works for one bassist might not work for another.
Join us as we navigate through these forums, debunk common myths, and highlight how to find reliable information. Whether you’re a beginner or an experienced bassist, this video is a must-watch!
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[@stephengregory7838]

As a decade-plus member of Talkbass, all I can say is "right on". The BS level there is higher than ever, and it's always been pretty high (it got worse, and more toxic, when they added a "like" button). One of my favorites is the vast misunderstanding of the saying "tone is in the fingers". You get people yammering about bone structure and stuff. The one that drives me craziest is the idea that you need a different bass for every genre of music you play, an idea that benefits manufacturers, but certainly not players. And apparently in every town but mine, band leaders are super picky about what brand bass you play and how many strings it should have. I've been gigging since the early 90s and I've never come up against that one.

[@RodneyMcG]

Perfect examples. People have brought up Talkbass a lot in the comments. It can apply, but most of what I said was directed at facebook groups and "Metal" production forums all over the web. There's defintely some talkbass problems as well though. I used to read it alot. There's defintely good info if you ask a very specific question (at least one that doesn't set off the hipster alarm) but there's more than a bit of dinosaurs acting like what they wish the music world looked like is actual fact. Funny, when you get in the trenches, it never seems to be accurate. Makes you wonder if they know so much, why it never resembles reality, and how they find time to practice and gig when they spend so much time pontificating on the internet.

[@IgorWillems]

Well said, can only agree. I tried a Dingwall bass 2 years back when I just started bass playing and loved it. I didn't know about the DingGlass hype, I just knew I loved the bass. I didn't buy it because I nearly got a stroke from seeing the 2800 euro price tag. I ended up with a way cheaper Ibanez that served me very well. Still, I keep thinking of that Dingwall and while I can easily afford it, it's probably better not to since I already got 7 awesome basses. Fun fact: 1,5 year ago I shopped for a proper bass head and speaker cabinet. I had my sight on Darkglass stuff and visited a huge music store in Germany where I could try out many combinations. Turns out, I found the Darkglass bass head to be extremely disappointing, no punch or power in the tones at all. And the Dorkglass speaker cabinet? A salesman literally told me they stopped selling them because they broke down so much. They weren't worth it, his exact words. I ended up with Mark Bass stuff.

[@TableOfNine]

It was after watching your video telling us to ditch using tabs that I listened to your advice. Six months later, my playing is a lot better, and so is my musicianship. Great advice! Playing in general I find more rewarding and enjoyable to figure songs out with my ear and not by someone els' tabs that are often wrong.

[@RodneyMcG]

That's awesome!

[@jameslangford9347]

I know Dingwalls can make different tones because Lee Sklar plays them, just without the Darkglass. Thanks for the vid and it is great having you back making them.

[@RodneyMcG]

Good point!

[@green8923]

In addition to the "Dingwall and a Darkglass" group, there is also the older "P bass with Flats" group (a tone I really like but can't in good conscience say it is the vibe for *every* kind of song)

[@RodneyMcG]

ABSOLUTELY!!

[@peterbarea512]

I was going to post the same thing!!!! The famous P Bass with flats bullshit. And don't forget the tortoise pickguard too...

[@johangericke1492]

Should've scrolled down before making my comment XD This is basically r/bass on reddit summarised.

[@t.j.meechan682]

According to TalkBass forum the only good bass out there is a sunburst P bass with a tort pickguard. Anything else is blasphemy.

[@RodneyMcG]

Totally untrue...........you also need flats, black socks, cargo shorts, and sandals😂

[@alanwadey2848]

It must be paired with an SVT as well

[@t.j.meechan682]

@@RodneyMcG maple or rosewood?

[@RodneyMcG]

Maple. Rosewood sandals are too oily

[@t.j.meechan682]

@@RodneyMcG thank you. I didn't want to be forced to make my own decision.

[@H0LT-85]

Can’t help think of the saying “fuck a hero, be yourself”. So many people want *that* distinct sound as you say, our Dingwall/Darkglass friends, whatever happened to hours upon hours twiddling knobs on pedals and trying different pedals/pickups/pickup blend/fiddle with the tone knob/etc to find your own sound and tone, rather than doing what been done a million and one times.

[@RodneyMcG]

Truth

[@montonibass5013]

Thank you for the video. I've been feeling for a long time that I was the only one that felt bad about the "only modern bass tone" protocol available. But now seeying the comments I feel a lot better.

[@RodneyMcG]

You're not alone!

[@jackshittle]

Nailed it. I feel bad for kids that tried learning to play with the bass slung so lo that the input jack is 1/2" off the ground. Ben from Soundgarden does it but.......yeah, no.

[@RodneyMcG]

Gotta keep those chiropractors employed somehow😂

[@StephenBecker]

Dude, I love this video so much! Not pulling any punches here....let 'em have it!

[@kevinpelepako7381]

I feel so old. I'm still playing Spectors, Stingrays, and Bongos through GK and Mesa heads with the occasional VT Bass pedal into an old school Aguilar GS212 cab. Do people still use heads and cabs? I don't even know anymore. At least all my basses are 5ers. There may be hope for me yet.

[@RodneyMcG]

It does seem to be a dying breed

[@svtbass]

Talkbass is the worst!. We call it "All Talk No Bass. " They get rid of all the people that have real world experience Jeff Berlin and others . I was canned for life for challenging the Know It All Jacka$h Andy from Mesa... Best thing that happened to me years ago.. Little does Talkbass wieners know I have 16 other profiles for years just lurking.. But I haven't logged on for almost 6 years now. I love this video. Thank you.. Reminds of TRUTH factors

[@Yaksonator]

The darkglass money pit is a thing and that old sansamp you have in your stash sounds better than any offering from darkglass for 95% of the stuff you play.

[@joecastro6523]

So Agree with you Brother, I fell down this rabbit hole looking at Darkglass Pedals, which I do think sound nice, But Not quite the Vibe I'm looking for, I have the Tech 21 YYZ and the DP-3X for my dirty tones which I love, but was really looking for something with a great Tight Clean Tone and kept getting pushed to look at darkglass, then every demo was the Dirt channel, I do have the DG harmonic booster which fits nicely into my rig, But still want something on my board that I can go to for a good Clean tone for the Other styles that doesn't sound flat. anyway Tanks for you input.

[@RodneyMcG]

If you like the tech 21 gear I would check out the Steve Harris pedal. It does grit, but has a great clean time with lots of sparkle. Reminds me of the old trace elliot Preamps

[@joecastro6523]

Wow your amazing Dude like you read my mind, I've been looking at the TE transit B, and the Steve Harris pedal, Rush and Maiden got me playing Bass in the 80's, would I be too much of a geek having 3 Sig pedals on my board? 😂 Not necessarily loyal to tech 21 they just did well with those, just want a good crisp clean tone for definition, and clarity. Ie, tapping, chords, non distorted finger styles. Thank you I'll be watching more of your videos.

[@RodneyMcG]

Coming from a guy who just had to expand to another full sized pedal board, it's never too much! Thanks for watching the channel- PS- I did a demo on the Harris pedal a while ago. You can find it on here.@@joecastro6523

[@RebieRebs]

Well, I get what you're doing here. However, I urge you to please do not get sucked into the "negative content" pipeline. I like how informative and down to earth your videos are, and usually positive. Stay healthy and I hope you're feeling good :)

[@RodneyMcG]

Nah, I don't have the energy or motivation for that! Sometimes you do have things at someone in an incendiary way when they need to be shocked out of dumb behaviors. I've got a couple videos like that this month which is why I called it tough love month. No matter what I deliver though, it's just garbage if you don't tell somebody how to fix it at the end. Always always take things with a grain of salt and sarcasm, though😉. Thanks for the kind words and well wishes. I'm doing my best on the health front, and more demos and lessons are coming as well.

[@RebieRebs]

Of course, I get it. Thank you for replying to me, I really do appreciate you taking a moment to respond. You've been one of my big inspirations in bass playing and like I said before, I really enjoy whenever you make a video. Don't push too hard if your health can't keep up - but I am sure you are well aware of what you can or cannot manage. Thanks, again - and rock on for as long as possible :)

[@RodneyMcG]

My pleasure, I always enjoy the conversation and hearing input is always good for self-reflection and checking yourself. I'm truly flattered that you list me as an inspiration and hope I can keep some things coming for you. Sometimes are better and sometimes not as good, but I definitely meet her it out and it's why you usually will see videos come and waves and then short breaks. I'm planning some ask me anything live streams close to the holidays to catch up with everyone. Hope to see you there. All the best to you.

[@Suthrnfried]

Ian Martin Allison, Victor Wooten, and now you have all said the same thing that has stuck with me on my bass journey. Just play and have fun. Try stuff. And, most importantly, there are no wrong notes.

[@RodneyMcG]

absolutely. Best of luck on your journey

[@IainThacker]

I've occasionally found useful info on forums, usually technical in nature when trying to get to the root of a problem - either a full on solution of direction to take. When it comes to opinion though... people get so damn defensive of their favourites, it's painful! I run for health and fun(!) - there's so many people quick to tell you what the right running shoe is despite it being incredibly personal. My advice is usually "this shoe works for me, and I find it useful for x/y/z". People could do with being a bit more chill and less absolute!

[@RodneyMcG]

For sure. People always wonder why I have an aversion to joining groups of any kind, or identifying myself with a certain collective. It always seems to get weird and cultish really quick!

[@admacdo]

Same for every other type of forum on the internet...

[@misterbreakit2006]

You rock, Rodney. I nearly spit my coffee on my screen. You are right, of course. And not only bass. Any topic, from crocheting to quantum physics, and anything in between.

[@RodneyMcG]

People do have a weird tendency to form little cults or gangs, don't they?

[@WhichBass]

Absolutely Brutal! Well said dude.

[@richardsmith1335]

Great advice at the end about using your ears. I have absolutely changed my tune about brands I hated and equipment I was looking forward to after hearing what it could do. Plus, if you follow everybody else's sound, you have to literally be the best of all of them to stick out. If you build your own sound, you only have to be the best you. Love to add that I'm glad to see you making videos again. You're looking much better than your announcement video!

[@RodneyMcG]

Absolutely true. You actually have no competition when you're an original. Thanks for the encouragement.

[@dougmckerracher836]

"Dingwall & Darkglass" is like when people respond to questions about Android by suggesting getting an iPhone

[@RodneyMcG]

Perfect

[@Hansreinaaa]

A classic is also the inevitable "a-real-tube-sounds-better"-comment on every demo video of an overdrive, distortion or fuzz pedal on KZbin.

[@RodneyMcG]

Oh man, totally. That's another stereotype

[@robsantorobass]

Couldn’t agree more with this. Dingwall and Darkglass are great pieces of gear but I can’t tell you how many videos/clips I’ve seen of the same sound over again. It’s not everyone who uses them but it’s definitely a vast majority. For me I’ll be sticking with my Schecter, Ampeg, and if I’m doing something with metal and want something with some extra grit I’ll include my good old SansAmp. That combination has worked for me for years, no need to spend thousands to mimic what my gear can do already. Plus for me I just prefer that set up. It has worked for me for years, no need to fix what isn’t broken. Great video, man and glad to see you back at it. Hope you’re doing well!

[@RodneyMcG]

Great commentary, and thanks for the kind words 👍

[@tramer76]

Rodney! Miss ya brother. Keep telling it like it is.

[@RodneyMcG]

Thanks - good to see you. And i'm working on it!

[@edwinacosta1354]

My pedal board is very simple Shure pgxd14 to Boss gt-1b to Ampeg SGT-DI. This does everything I need! Also, have 8 basses and they all do the same thing . . . make bass sounds.

[@RodneyMcG]

Perfection!

[@WilliamSullivan-uv1ht]

Completely off topic, but you're looking much healthier since your health update a year ago. I hope that you are feeling better, and I think that you are based on your prickliness in this video. Cheers and good vibes being sent your way.

[@RodneyMcG]

Thanks a lot. I'm still in here swinging and sometimes that involes some sarcasm! All the best to you!

[@shaybuziashvili269]

Couldn't agree more. It sounds like Metal is going back to a single bass and single amp from those precision bass and ampeg days. Instead of enjoying the vast sounds that so many companies with great building quality and sound bring. People just end up coming to the same Chinese made bass and the same cool ad company. For a while I was thinking of getting a dingwall just so I could play it a while and see what I've been missing all these years, but than just because that everybody and their sister get it, I decided against it. I just got my G&L CLF L2500. Now that's a beast. I know you're probably packed with ideas, but would have loved to read (or hear lol) what you think of the L200 line. I've tried many basses, but this one is hot,solid, full of foundation and signature sound. But most importantly, I don't think I ever reacted to one of your videos or haven't for a long while. I'mm happy to see you're looking better and I hope that you're also feeling better mate. Wishing you many years of educating us with some real knowledge unbiased opinions. Rock on my friend!

[@RodneyMcG]

I reached out to G&L a while ago and was supposed to have a bass sent out, but it never happened. Maybe in the future at some poiint. Thanks for the kind words, and i'm glad your enjoying the videos. Happy Holidays.

[@russthompson7994]

You are killing me! It's like you read my mind and I can tell the Michigan attitude is affecting you. It's all good! The last time I commented on a forum was years ago. There are only a few bassists and engineers I pay attention to. You sir are one. Thanks for the laughs in this one. 🤘😎👍

[@RodneyMcG]

My pleasure - the rants are just beginning!

[@Bigscott4130]

After seeing this, I never knew I wanted a Rodney/Glenn Fricker colab on sound/technique... Now I do. Great seeing Ya Rodney. And thanks for all your sound (pun intended) advice.

[@RodneyMcG]

Me and fricker?! I think the Bible actually mentions that being one of the heralds of the end times!

[@jbee3]

That’s definitely a gatekeeper and key master scenario and I am HERE for it!

[@Clammy69]

@@RodneyMcG 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@QuarterJack812]

Agree. I tried a dingwall, didn't get on with them at all. I like my P basses with a pj set up. I own 4 darkglass pedals. They have their place on and off my pedalboard. The two pieces of gear that I find I get the most useful tones for anything I play in my band is the Billy sheehan drive and my sansamp bddi together. And recently the Tronographic Rusty Box on it's own. Just find it has a nicer drive section than any of the darkglass pedals. Great video as always mate. Glad to see you're well. 💪🏼🤘🏼

[@anthonyelectric6045]

lol your spot on 👍 been playing bass for almost 35 years and seen and learned along the way. I almost went down the rabbit hole of what you’re talking about. That’s why I enjoy your work and exposure etc on bass and gear. Looking forward to more

[@RodneyMcG]

It's always tempting to put the gear before the playing, but it's a harsh lesson the first time you have to prove it on stage. That's how you know none of these morons have ever actually played, But definitely want you to think they have

[@anthonyelectric6045]

@@RodneyMcG I look back at all my gear I purchased when I was younger well -no math please. I didn’t really need everything just was under a spell back then lol. I’ve been wanting to downsize for a while now I’m in a narrow market being a lefty. Thanks

[@OlafKnolaf]

I agree, most advice on forums is garbage because good sound boils down to getting the biggest strings possible!

[@TenFalconsMusic]

@ 7:50 You described Rickenbacker fanboys perfectly. I can almost hear their knuckles dragging as they ready their vitriolic keyboard assault.

[@RodneyMcG]

😂😂🤘

[@ryanwarsh]

Omg they’re the worst! Ok we get it, you spent $3000 on an ugly bass. No need to justify it to a bunch of strangers on Talkbass 😆😆😆

[@swissarmyknight4306]

Rickys sound good and I think they look cool, but they're overpriced and I've heard they're really hard to work on. I paid $400 for my P-bass with a Jazz neck, and she's never done me wrong, everybody says she sounds great except for my playing lol.

[@TenFalconsMusic]

@swissarmyknight4306 I'm the not-so-proud owner of a '17 4003 Jetglo. Within a 3 gig span: The input jack wiring came loose, the neck pickup died, the D tuning key gear locked up, the neck needed adjustment 4 times, bridge pickup cover broke in two (It's cheap plastic, painted to look like metal), it broke 2 E strings during one gig and the body contour dug into my side like a rusty anvil. Technically, it was my 3rd 4003 because the first 2 were sent back due to massive QC issues. Apparently, they now apply the neck lacquer with a fire hose. My bass tech told me he would resign if I brought it on the road again. It's basically a rotten potato in a tuxedo.

[@TenFalconsMusic]

@swissarmyknight4306 A Precision with a Jazz neck? Nice👍 Can't go wrong with any of Leo's basses.

[@danielcorrigan8805]

The crazy thing is Dingwall and Darkglass are both very versatile instruments. Tony Levin is playing Dingwall and Darkglass, and he sounds nothing like what you'd expect those to sound like. But you never hear anyone dive into the range of sounds these instruments can make. It's always just that same 1 modern metal tone.

[@RodneyMcG]

Fact. Lee Sklar plays one. You never see people saying you should get a Dingwal because of his sound. It's sad these dumbasses have turned 2 perfectly good products into memes.

[@francoishtzl157]

Lee Sklar bass is exceptional but didn't sound at all like an NG I think. It has his own sound that is beautiful. I think there isn't a lot of people talking about it because it is an expensive bass.@@RodneyMcG

[@markusorth5450]

They are great basses and, if you're going for the tone Rodney is referring too (cough, Nolly, cough), it's plug and play. There are a lot of other expensive basses out there. What Rodney is referring to is a sheep kind of situation. @@francoishtzl157

[@RodneyMcG]

I wouldn't doubt that's part of it. I think it's also because it isn't a plug and play solution for people who are basically doing musical cosplay, and don't have anything of thier own to share musically. He does his won thing, and that requires both time and individuality.

[@francoishtzl157]

@@RodneyMcG I dont think Lee use a tone of effect, he has his incredible fingers, bass and a tube DI he bas for years if I am correct. I have got some darkglass pedal, some tech21 too (bddi, dUg). Now I just get the darkglass and everytime I Heard a bass sound I like it has kind of the b7k growl and tightness. I just don't like boosting a lot of 3kHz on it but more 1, 1.5k. it has more grind and less clank that way to me. The dUg is a nice pedal but the compression is abusive and the mid scoop make it work perfectly or not at all (my guitarist has a really scooped tone too, can't work with that) I have use the Geddy Lee MP40 from the release of it to now, really nice unit. I just think that for the Low G# my band want to tune to the B7k tightness and precision would work better, have you any other recommandation ?

[@nuldorvamoysenor2091]

I play thrash metal. I'm currently using a 30years old, 4 strings epiphone with passive PJ quarter pounders, an MXR M80, and an old Laney 65W RB3 with mids and highs at 2, i play exclusivley with fingers. I feel like the anti modern metal bassist right now. Watching other metal production channels you always hear the same bass sound, regardless of style, or song. I know my sound can be controversial for some, but trust me, in a thrash context, it just works.

[@RodneyMcG]

And that's what it's about!

[@60degreelobwedge82]

I'm that guy too. I play a 4 string stingray tuned BEAD into an MXR bass compressor into a sansamp DI. The guy I replaced was a Dingwall/Darkglass guy. Nobody other than bass players even notice the difference.

[@nuldorvamoysenor2091]

@@RodneyMcG you know whats funny? Specter Sound just released a bass plugin that turns you into a preset in one "fix my bass" button. And it's coming from the same guy that's telling every guitar player to dump their vintage 30s in order to find an original sound...

[@RodneyMcG]

No shit. And the one who pisses on bassists for not caring about their sound, etc. It comes at the same time Nolly puts out his library with the same tone -the one he created. Physician heal thyself. @@nuldorvamoysenor2091

[@60degreelobwedge82]

@@RodneyMcG Glen also shits on boomer guitar players for their collectable vintage guitars but then gets a Rickenbacker bass that had been modified in the 80s to play metal and restores it to the unplayable factory specs to increase its resale value.

[@cmvb]

True.

[@Shred_Rocket]

You're too funny Rodney! I don't disagree with your point of view. But dude, I own a Spector and it gives me what I want, I also dig the Darkglass and it makes things simple for me to dial in a driving sound. However, I do like the way Dingwall's sound, but too expensive so...

[@RodneyMcG]

I'm a spector lover, totally. Again there's nothing wrong with either one of those pieces of gear, it's the people who buy it to just imitate the same sound over and over because they just have no originality, a personality or are afraid to actually use something different from what their internet peer group screams at them that they should use. Follow your ears and the rest will be just fine.

[@rl-ub9hx]

"so anyway's I started blasting" Rodney probably 😂

[@RodneyMcG]

can confirm 😂

[@kipholscher1812]

Pretty straight forward.

[@roberthofmann932]

If I learned one thing during the pandemic it’s that people don’t care about the facts. 😢 even if you confront them with it

[@RodneyMcG]

Unfortunate facts

[@krms2504]

My best advice for beginners would be that they should try the gear with THEIR bass and Look if it works for them . If it doesnt, its not their fault, they should try Just a diffrent flavour of a amp or a effect. I like a darkglass a Lot, others like ampeg , others orange etc.... These diffrent taste makes us Special in in the end and give us our own Personality

[@RodneyMcG]

Exactly.

[@williamross2579]

Dear Rodney... YES! thankyou. Same goes with educational advice. X Brilliant player speaks, and everyone goes "WOW"... When it's just hogwash.

[@RodneyMcG]

Right?!

[@charlie-grove]

Tried DarkGlass, it was ok but I kept going back to my trusty SansAmp. Can’t deny a P bass through a SansAmp, but to each their own! My unpopular opinion is that I prefer the Fender Bassman tone over Ampeg SVT. There, I said it 😅

[@RodneyMcG]

Trust me - it ain't unpopular 😉🤘

[@_B_E_A_D_G_C]

My man woke up and chose violence today, and I’m here for it ! Automatic sub 😂

[@RodneyMcG]

Welcome aboard!

[@domagojoinky8262]

A simple Fender 4 string P bass with flatwounds is what I would like to get. I do not have any basses for the moment being. I played fretted, fretless, 4, 5 and 6 string. I hate clanky clank of Dingwall Darkglass combo that plagues todays metal and rock music.

[@teresaravenshaw5477]

I get by with a modern Schecter with modern pickups, active, tuned down a whole step, with flats played fingerstyle. Because I like it, even though it's clearly a mismatch of modern and vintage. Oh, and I use digital multi effects not to be controversial but because it works for me. Mind you, most of the hate comes from being a lefty that deigns to play left-handed.

[@RodneyMcG]

You found your own way, and that's awesome

[@bassimprovjams3772]

It’s so good to see you post again Rodney! Hope your doing well Bass brother!! Daddy Rodney cleaning house! 💪😀

[@RodneyMcG]

Thanks, my friend! Doing my best!

[@bassimprovjams3772]

@@RodneyMcGglad to hear that homie!

[@Farewelltokingz]

As a Darkglass user. Believe it or not, you can get more sounds out of them! I use the X and whilst it does do the Nolly thing. If you just lower the high pass filter, you can get a woolier Mesa bass tone. It also has great adaptivity to different basses. I’ve used Warwick, Yamaha, Sterling. They all sound quite different whilst being good in their own way. (It keeps the instrument’s natural characteristics which is why the double D combo is so common and identifiable. Yes I’m tired of the same sounds. But the gear themselves has way different sounds than what you hear always nowadays.

[@RodneyMcG]

We found them The person who actually uses the gear to create their own tone! Somebody get them an award and then we need to immediately clone them! Well done, my friend!

[@Farewelltokingz]

@@RodneyMcG Also speaking of Taylor Swift, her touring bassist Amos Heller reviews a lot of the Darkglass stuff. He even uses the B3k live sometimes with T swift for a bit of grit when needed. He still sounds nothing like Periphery 😂.

[@RodneyMcG]

Impossible!! 😂@@Farewelltokingz

[@vladv5126]

I think my favorite thread was some dude recommending the tuning BDGC on a 4 string because that's what his hero uses (who played D standard for like 10 years and then their band started doing drop B songs so for the sake of commodity he went with that just to be able to use the same fingerings on older songs) and this guy was shouting up and down about how that tuning is superior to any tuning ever and definitely not a super circumstantial compromise. Good times 😂

[@RodneyMcG]

BUT THAT'S HOW JACO DID IT! THAT'S HOW LEMMY DID IT! Ugh 😆😆

[@faithnoman2635]

I've always posted clips, (usually with my own bad playing), to try and show why I like certain pieces of gear and how I use it. But you are right that a lot of people just suggest what they like instead of keeping the original post in mind. And I love my Darkglass VMT, but I also love the Reiner Gasoline, Tech21 Oxford(not an SVT guy) and old Peavey bass amps. And my JohnK remakes of Peavey preamps. Why Peavey? Billy Gould!

[@RodneyMcG]

Billy Gould FTW!

[@faithnoman2635]

@@RodneyMcG right on man. ofc you can tell by my username I love Billy’s tone and playing. I esp loved his old filthy tone in Chuck era. It’s way easier I’ve found with shaved maple basses with a brittle abrasive high end. I have a Ric but recently built a few P basses from it. The best one was when I shaved the body 2/3 as thick as a regular P bass. The high end from it sounds like glass shards and metal

[@RodneyMcG]

Any post with billy could in it gets a thumbs up from me!

[@bublok]

Vintage double P/PJ BC Rich thru Hartke (b)Ass Attack - that's Comrade's jam!

[@RodneyMcG]

Love it! Been playing my double P Warlock a lot lately

[@3randommonkeys]

Totally nailed it!

[@d_exx]

Man, you have been missed my dude! 🤣 It's so nice having a beacon of light to rip through the bullshit and who isnt afraid to tell it like it is. Selfishly i/we want more - hope you're doing much better man, so happy to see you back 🙏🏻

[@RodneyMcG]

Thank you, my friend - more coming!

[@rockereivanivan]

As a side note, what have always helped me get a great sound is fresh strings. To my ears that's what I prefer. Don't need no pedal, no amp or anything, just hearing the clank from the bass unplugged gets me the satisfaction that it's gonna sound brutal.

[@RodneyMcG]

Simple and right from the beginning gets the job done!

[@TheSonsofHorusx]

Ditto for used car forums xP

[@airstreamer]

Thanks for speaking truth. 😁

[@mixc8]

Tell is like it is brother McG!

[@melaronin9173]

Preach on my friend!

[@jimmymiller9524]

My favorite forum thing is “A high pass filter solves everything.” Not that I’m against them…I use one myself…but they’re not going to make your $100 practice amp as loud as an SVT and 810, nor will they prevent you from blowing your speaker if you push it too hard. Anyway, I have been a longtime contributor on Talkbass, and while it has its share of BS, there is a core of people who know what they’re doing and do their best to bust myths. And as someone who occasionally gets their own myths busted, I have no problem owning up to it. But most of these Facebook forums are garbage. I actually feel bad for people who are looking for advice on them because the SN ratio is too high to overcome. At any rate, you said what needed to be said, except one thing…if you have a bass and amp that works and has enough guns for the gig you’re doing and it doesn’t sound good, it’s not the fault of the gear.

[@RodneyMcG]

I Agree on all points, and yeah, I was primarily taking about Facebook

[@danthompson2568]

Im just going to go ahead say it. I play short scale, with a pick..lol!

[@RodneyMcG]

#hero

[@grahamsneddon9196]

#guitarist

[@josephjordan2883]

All true! Thank you!

[@RodneyMcG]

Thanks for watching!

[@davidloflin3098]

Rodney that was so perfect I'm not sure what I can add but I've been laughing and nodding for the last 11:12 so thanks. I'll say that you hit on one of my big pet peeves with the Darkglass/Dingwal thing; so overdone at this point and still an inferior bass tone to what guys like Steve Harris and Geddy Lee were getting 30 years ago IMO. It's not just players but every music production channel I can find promotes the same bass sound and homogenized metal mix and it's frustrating. Anyway great job and I can't wait for the follow-up.

[@RodneyMcG]

Thanks, David! The truly sad thing is there's nothing wrong with those 2 pieces of gear, and I'm sure there are a multitude of other interesting sounds available. But everybody buys it just to be a part of the cult and Being able to bypass having any originality or personality. I'll bet the bet the owners of both companies cringe as often as we do

[@stevenhirsekorn3444]

The beat the hell out of your bass thing is really a matter of what you enjoy, I play with 160,120,90,70 for b standard, stupid heavy and I enjoy beating the shit out of my bass because I like the way it feels and sounds. I’m fully aware I could use a lighter gauge and conserve my energy and get the same sound but I don’t like how dainty it can feel. I play my homemade fretless basses that have custom Seymour Duncan p bass pickups, based on the spb2 but with custom no hole covers like an emg. Because of that I don’t get that pop on the pole pieces which helps when you like to hit hard; I use 2 compressors and a 2 channel 15 band graphic with a hartke lh1000. I have a 2x15 crate cabinet with eminence speakers. Do I recommend that to anyone? By no means. But does it work for my band?? Absolutely. Never follow stupid trends, use what you enjoy!!

[@RodneyMcG]

If it works for you you've developed your own thing, run with it! Making your own statement is what it's all about.

[@stevenhirsekorn3444]

@@RodneyMcG absolutely. It is good to see that you’re appearing to be in better health. I appreciate your contribution to the community of metal bass. Take care and god bless you

[@RodneyMcG]

Thank ya kindly. Al the best to you@@stevenhirsekorn3444

[@stevenhirsekorn3444]

@@RodneyMcG if you want to hear what that rig all together sounds like here’s a link to the pre-preproduction version of my bands first album kzbin.info/aero/PL5AuXwVX-ATEZmkiWENSDwgl2BT139AWq&si=YJRfNZwsTKBSPBUP

[@TheBeardofDOOM]

I don't care what they recommend. I'll still make it sound like crap!

[@RodneyMcG]

Easy pal, that's my gig 😂😂

[@TheBeardofDOOM]

@@RodneyMcG my lawyers will be in touch

[@b-crawf2996]

I will stay with my schecter basses. 😁

[@thomascoolberth2648]

Ha .. I'm a total newb bass player looking for input on a good bass combo amp or good cab/head set up. I'm strictly bedroom and dabble in recording but looking for something high quality for my bedroom studio. I'n curious about SWR. Are old big Peavey's junk ? They're cheap and available EVERYWHERE. I'm just hunting for quality sound. Budget < $300.

[@RodneyMcG]

Old peaveys are great, just heavy. Remember, people used to tour the world with that gear. SWR is quality as well. Hartke makes some really good combo amps that are super light weight and have line in/ etc for practicing tunes, etc. If you are just going for a bedroom studio, maybe some amp sim / computer based options are something to think about? You can get some great sounds inexpensive, and then listen through monitors, headphones, etc. For hardware, the best idea is always just listen to some demo videos to narrow it down, and then try it out for yourself, or order something from a place with a good return policy if you wind up not likely it. Good luck!

[@thomascoolberth2648]

@@RodneyMcG Yeah, Im 100% home studio. I see SwR and Hartke all over the place. I figure I can get a quality heavy one on the cheap because people don't like lugging them around. Plugin will always part of the mix but as far as composing and practice I like real amps.

[@RodneyMcG]

I get that totally. Good luck. @@thomascoolberth2648

[@myfavoritesith]

i am so looking forward to December: Tough Love Month ! This is the way !

[@RodneyMcG]

It is the way, indeed!

[@rockereivanivan]

Can't wait for the next video lml

[@BungHunterSV650]

i have a schecter c4 silver mountain, fender elite jazz deluxe, schecter stilletto 4 with emg hz, and schecter 5 string. all have different tones.

[@RodneyMcG]

That's a nice stable 👌

[@AgentBigWilly]

Always say dingwall darkglass is just the new P bass SVT 🙄 although i do use a darkglass so cant really say much 😂

[@RodneyMcG]

sure you can! It's not the darkglass that's the problem. It's the people that only use it to get the same tone every damned time!

[@cobe571]

Can't agree more. I have 5 selected basses I modded over the years. Actually playing a very cheap mod bass. Just fit to me. Don't sounds like a Dingwall and I don't give a single flying f**k!

[@JMGilberto]

I used to participate on Talkbass, until I realized the idiocracy was from the top down. Moderating professional musicians to speak in language normally reserved for grade school children is pretty stupid, since most serious Jazz musicians would make a trucker blush. I realize most of the moderators were on the god squad, and I just knew it would forever be a clownshow. It's a shame no one has stepped forward with an alternative forum for adults.

[@RodneyMcG]

Yeah, I don't frequent there much anymore, I was hping it wasn't as bad. I'm especially targeting facebook and "metal" forums for metal production. It's a cult of single allowable opinions. Insane.

[@JMGilberto]

@@RodneyMcG Every old guy: "Jaco only needed 4 strings". Every noob: "I don't see what's so special about Jaco". 🤡💩

[@JMGilberto]

@@RodneyMcG I should probably add that I am the forum bassist formerly known as "Basshole"...🤣

[@RodneyMcG]

I'm always stunned when I see that comment, as if they don't realize it's been posted 10000 times before. Do you seriously think people aren't sick of it or it's still some kind of witty snipe?They're like that weird uncle that every holiday tells you the same joke over and over again even though you've had to hear it from him for 40 years straight and he still thinks it's somehow Original.

[@RodneyMcG]

😂@@JMGilberto

[@haze4haze]

Where do I get the dingwall dark glass you speak of.

[@RodneyMcG]

Can't seem to throw a rock without hitting one these days. Shouldn't be tough to come across them.

[@erikpeterson778]

Darkglass switches are the worst in the industry. Spring loaded cheap garbage that break from desk use.

[@johangericke1492]

Lol there's the same cult following for P with flats. "Hey, I want to play metal" "Yes, get a P bass with flats cause Steve Harris did it"

[@RodneyMcG]

#facts

[@adamrushka8096]

we all know that Dingwall and Darkglass are not the right answer. Its Spector in to a Bass diver into a darkglass.

[@RodneyMcG]

Yaaaas!

[@graagullesson87]

​@@RodneyMcG I've got A Dingwall and Darkglass. BUT! I am not going for modern djenty tone. With that gear I wantedto bring dirty, packed with low end sound which you can compare to concrete mixer which is packed with bricks and debris :D also it is pretty easy to dial in Pantera like sound, Primus sound or other great sounds. Ok, but now let's stop with defending Dingwall and DG, they are good for me and these are good for me. Whenever someone asks me about a pre amp or other gear, I give few examples that I have chance to experience. Hence, if I didn't go for DG and Dingwall, I would pick up SanSamp, Aguilar or the new Ampeg SVT preamp pedal, all of these are great!As for basses I would go for Spector (the new multiscale is freaking amazing!), I very good friend has a Spector Legend and it plays sooo smoothly and has punch like Mike Tyson. ESP Basses are also good way to go I considered to pick their multiscale bass. Also Ibanez has many very good series from SDGR to BTB and EHB. There are many options and whenever someone is asking me I am giving above examples and more. This is music you just cannot tell that there is the only tre way to achieve great sound. I think that, the thing is it depends a lot on your skills, playstyle and genre. You always need to take into consideration what sound will suit the best in the songs you play and how it will elevate the overall sound of your band. I will also allow myself to give thanks to you @RodneyMcG you aregiving great work with you materials, I love to watch them. they also helped me to learn a lot! Cheers from Snowy Poland!

[@Infectedbyevil]

100% agree!! Chinese dingwal more expensive than many bases made in Europe Korea and Indonesia! And not better sound than other multiscale and not multiscale bases! About darkglass they have some very good pedals. But not all of their products are best bass gear! I played many of them . I know what I'm talking about!

[@RodneyMcG]

I'm not even bashing the instruments. I think it's sad that people have turned two perfectly good pieces of gear into a meme because they refuse to do anything except make the same sound with them all the time.

[@MartinPeterWhitney]

Dingwall are made in Canada not China!

[@scootermcgavin2188]

@@MartinPeterWhitneythey have Canadian custom ones and Chinese versions that they set up and ship out.

[@MartinPeterWhitney]

@@scootermcgavin2188 thanks, I didn't know what.

[@kristofkolosnagy9152]

I saw a lot of mainstream metal bands start using dingwalls and darkglass B7K. I'm not saying they are a bad piece of gear, they are good, BUT everyone starts to sound the same. To be honest I've neve really liked the sound of the B7K when I had to play through it. Also if I had the money for a dingwall I would probably find a luthier and have a custom made bass to my liking. BTW is that a double p bass in the background??? I wanna hear how that sounds! I loved the olf bc rich mockingbirds with the double p configuration.

[@RodneyMcG]

It is a double P! I use that combo in pretty much all my basses. I've got an old warlock around with that combo too. Killer set.

[@nayr87]

I believe that's Rodneys custom schecter AB bass that He had custom built for Him. they don't make that body shape in basses anymore.

[@RodneyMcG]

Correct! @@nayr87

[@miguelfernandes333]

Aleluia!!!

[@bane9832]

Hey i have a question now, how do i adjust the compressor on my boss gt6, for my main metal tone i use a metalzone sim on the top and clean botton end, yes i use the metalzone sue me i dont care it sounds sick, the compressor is in there perfect but when i click off the dist my clean tone is so clicky from the compressor how do i fix that? Im not in the situation to suss it out at the moment i need a theoretical solution :(

[@RodneyMcG]

Not familiar with that unit, but i would think create a second preset for clean, or shut it off completely.

[@bane9832]

@@RodneyMcG i have a seperate for clean but it also clicks so i might just not even use a comp for cleans

[@RodneyMcG]

@@bane9832 You could also add a eq if it has one and cut the highs on it

[@ChrisHopkinsBass]

More equipment out there than Dingwall and Dark Glass? What kind of heresy is this? I tried a Dark Glass Alpha Omega a few years ago and it did nothing for me (apart from blowing a hole in my wallet)

[@RodneyMcG]

😂 I don't even hate the gear. I just wish people would try something different with it

[@ryanwarsh]

I stopped visiting Talkbass around the time I saw someone make a blanket statement that “all class D amps are garbage.” 1. That doesn’t help anyone 2. Not true! Sorry that you owned one class D amp that bit the dust 😂😂😂

[@RodneyMcG]

Exactly. It happened to me so it means all of them!

[@TenFalconsMusic]

Each time I visited the TalkBass forum, I left with less information than when I started. If only there was a forum with exclusive content from professional bass technicians & performers.

[@negativepositive3933]

How about people who recommend a $10,000 Fodera to someone looking for a bass suggestions...lol. Equipment that's not in 90% of players budget. Dumb.

[@RodneyMcG]

Right?!

[@JMGilberto]

Actually, one of the worst/most expensive turds I ever played was one of Vinny's basses that was hanging up at Manny's (oh dear, I fear I've dated myself). Not to say he probably hasn't made some nice stuff, and I am not out to bash the man's work as a whole, but I assure you, there's $100 basses that sound great, and $10K ones that are dogs.

[@RodneyMcG]

Facts

[@KPGuitarStudios]

Man, why aren't you doing Musician's Stand-Up Comedy? You'd kill it! Do you think most bass players understand the words you're saying? 🤣

[@RodneyMcG]

You make big sounds, me get angry, you slow down.

[@KPGuitarStudios]

@@RodneyMcG Is that how drummers talk to bassists? 🙂 Hope you're doing well buddy!

[@RodneyMcG]

Hanging in there. See you at NAMM?@@KPGuitarStudios

[@KPGuitarStudios]

@@RodneyMcG Oh shit you are going? Hell yeah! I'm there, all booked in and ready to roll 🤘

[@RodneyMcG]

That's the plan unless some medical through a monkey wrench in. See ya there!

[@duranduran6456]

Oh god! I am just here to simply comment, I AGREE! There are MANY people who give bad advice in real life as well haha Anyway, how are you feeling Rodney?

[@RodneyMcG]

I'm hanging in there, man. Just trying to keep things going. Every day above ground is a good one!

[@duranduran6456]

@@RodneyMcG You are still inspiring and motivating others, keeping them above ground. I wish I could schedule a lesson / bass hang out. I have not played for three years though and money is tight. I wanted to check in though. I feel sad and a bit in shock, still, with what you have to endure. It is extremely unfair.

[@RodneyMcG]

Thank you! I totally get the situation. If i can be of help at a later date, feel free to reach out. I'm planning some live streams around the holidays, hope to see you there and maybe I can give some things to work on.@@duranduran6456

[@duranduran6456]

@@RodneyMcG Which day(s) will the live stream be? Also, how do I join?

[@RodneyMcG]

Haven't mailed it down yet. If your subscribed you'll get a notice in advance. You just watch as usual and you can talk in the chat window. No need to join anything or do anything special.

[@recordlabeldao7820]

I can say yes i am stil stupid i have good best friends that work on basses but i talk with them private because they have same brand like i have. But yeah i understand u ask question and get 20 diffrent opinions and u dont know who to trust

[@RodneyMcG]

You're defintely not stupid as you see the situation accurately

[@misterauctor7353]

5:57 To those who said this, you're not them.

[@CryofthePlanet]

Hard to disagree with anything said here. The "dInGwAlL aNd A dArKgLaSs" thing gets so old. Used to use a B7K myself and it's a nice lil thing, but I don't see myself plugging it in too much these days. Just got tired of hearing that same song from everyone and their mother, brother, kids, fiance, dog, cat, goldfish, colony of ants who just discovered what a bass is. The amount of covers and clips I've seen of people who clearly have work to be done on their technique and fundamentals yet own a Dingwall is a little ridiculous. Think this ends up being a commentary on people in general. A lot of parroting, low-effort plugs that make them feel like they're part of the group even when they don't really know what they're talking about. Long as they get the validation of others agreeing with them. I'd rather just play my bass the way I want to play it. Been doing it 18 years, I can figure things out for myself well enough.

[@kameronwraithd.k.5363]

Based

[@badassbassist]

Most bass players(i think its the same with guitar players as well) look at the headstock first to judge an instrument. Once they like what they see they come up with reasons to like that instrument no matter who badly it sounds, where as if they dont like what they see they go out of their way to shit on it. And hell these jokers ejaculate by changing pickups or what?

[@RodneyMcG]

Well said

[@Tomijee]

Nice dmt cave

[@RodneyMcG]

😂😂😂🤘

[@rorke47]

hey dude idk but the whole listening to black metal hasnt been working out for me. its too extreme for me i guess im too old and too much of a pussy to get into it. im kinda jealous of guys like justin horval who have been listening to extreme metal and have been in the scene since they were like 9 years old because they're the real deal. even guys like that bryce talks metal who's younger than me knows all of these bands and he's got a battle vest and everything like its kinda intimidating where it makes me feel insecure and worthless. i just wanna be in the cool kids club like them.

[@RodneyMcG]

Being yourself is more important than joining a club. Be your own club and have others join it. Cool isn't following others, it's doing what you like, and being unapologetic about it. Be confident in what you like, and don't be an elitist about it and you'll lead by example. You'll do just fine that way and make longer term friends that aren't there just because of temporary cool guy status. As far as black metal, i don't listen to most of it either. There's a few bands, but most sound like Gollum from Lord of the Rings screaming into a can to me. To each their own.

[@AmandaCopeteShin]

I stopped asking because the only time I did just got a stupid advice: having small hands is a MYTH. Or that's what people say lol I have kids size (for real) so my pinky has a hard time reaching A string (not to say about E…). Asking if I should instead opt for a short scale, as it seems more sized for me and you know what? First comment: you're being lazy, you have bad technique and stop using small hands as an excuse. EXCUSE ME SIR, I had carpal tunnel; my pinky is just 50mm (while woman's size should be 55mm) and my wrist is only 14cm like a kids size (woman is around 16-18cm). You can get an idea how small are with that small wrist… Excuse my ass. I should say I didn't want to give up, there's a lot of options to choose on long scale vs short. If life gives you lemons, you make lemonade 😂 I know I have limitations so I need to be faster than normal hands, but hell, that doesn't mean it's already f* hard for me. I do what works for me. I'm aware that other people would just rant me like I'mm doing something wrong. You know? I don't fucking care. I play. That's all I need.

[@RodneyMcG]

People are always ready to give advice to make themselves feel superior. Rarely are they ready to give it to actually benefit the other person.

[@Mudfunk75]

"The new XY2020 Amp is the best ever built! "The new XY2021 Amp is the best ever built! The new YX2022 Amp is th...shut up man!"

[@RodneyMcG]

Hey ! Are you calling into question my near religious praise of the the Skidmark 9000? To hell with you!

[@jdjk7]

The reason I don't trust you (or any other KZbinr) any more than I do the forum drones is specifically because you don't have to prove the points that you make... you just have to produce content that people like. You have a vested interest in presenting opinions and demonstration that the viewership agrees with, regardless of whether they are true, practical, or methodical (when it comes to the proof part). I've seen my fair share of demos that unfairly represented gear, explained information incorrectly or incompletely, or had information simply not exist (such as seeking demos of a specific pedal, amp, etc. and not being able to find it.) But saying that you should get all your information from a single source like KZbin or Talkbass is like saying that your social life should only consist of friends from work OR your significant other OR your family. That advice would be impractical, unfulfilling, and unhealthy. Internet gear forums have a shitload of valuable information that is 100% correct and usable, just like KZbin does. Being able to sort out relevant vs. irrelevant information is a skill that a person needs to have, especially in today's media/information climate, and saying "You Should Not Go On Bass Forums" simply because you are not able or can't be fucked to think critically about what you see/read is just... weak, both of character and of mind. Go, hear, read, watch, get all the information you need to come to the preliminary, researched-but-not-experienced conclusions that you need to, and understand all the viewpoints-- whether it means understanding why they are right, why they are valid, or why they are wrong. That's what you need to do.

[@RodneyMcG]

Wow, I've never seen somebody reword the statement - I didn't get the point of this entire video so many ways in my life. And no offense taken. I don't trust you either 😆

[@JMGilberto]

@@RodneyMcG dude must be a moderator there or something. What an odd simp for banality.

[@RodneyMcG]

@JMGilberto A kicked dog will howl !

[@jdjk7]

@@RodneyMcG Would you like to try that again after reading my comment and actually respond to it as opposed to writing it off wholesale?

[@RodneyMcG]

You obviously didn't pay attention to the video, and just went on accusation tirade. There's nothing to respond to, so no. @@jdjk7

[@stevecullen]

You sound very much like the people you are advocating against...however after a lively debate with a certain, very expensive speaker cab CEO/maker about the physics of sound refraction through solid walls, who was completely mistaken and proceeded with the mega-gaslight 'everyone on the internet is wrong, apart from me' vibe, whilst proffering very bad science to a scientist and engineer, with a lifetime of experience in the field and their unsuspecting customers - this cuts both ways. This type of swami clownery is the price to pay for the internet.

[@RodneyMcG]

I rail against people giving out bad info and ramming thier know nothing info down everyones throat, with zero backing or evidence. I then advise to follow your own thought, opinion, and research based on actual proof and demonstrations, and hold no one's opinion sacred. Somehow those are similar? I'm always open to criticism, but I don't think I can follow you on that one.

[@stevecullen]

@@RodneyMcG Wouldn't an internet 'expert' only present themselves in the same self-righteous way and denigrate all the other 'experts'? 'Daddy' isn't 'cleaning house' but contributing to exactly the same phenomena as that being described by ranting in the same hysterical way. I came across your channel by accident and I have nothing against you; maybe you are as great as you make out but it's not for me. I play bass, guitar and keys so I guess the algorithm thinks I'd be interested in some heavy metal bass tapping or some similar nonsense. To me the whole 'metal' thing is to music what WWF is to quantum physics. I don't own a Dingwall or Darkglass product and I didn't purchase my taste and de rigueur standard issue outfit from a dedicated isle in a supermarket.

[@RodneyMcG]

1. You obviously have no discernment for what is or is not sarcasm or humor. 2. I can't understand why you watched to begin with seeing as though the algorithm can't physically force you to watch something. 3. I'm going to need you to point out where I am 'hysterical " unless you mean in a humorous way, and then I would have to agree! 4. You obviously have some kind of superiority complex, and feel the need to piss on other forms of music to have some sort of self validation. You actually sound like some of the people I'm talking about, so your outsized anger and snobbery makes sense. It's really kind of sad that you feel the need to do that just to get yourself some form of malignant, pseudo self esteem. Even worse that you sit on the internet to do it. Some personal reflection and inner work might be in order. I wish you the best with it. It doesn't seem like it's actually making you happy or healthy.

[@stevecullen]

@@RodneyMcG I wasn't forced to watch your video but thought it might offer some insight. I'm not particularly angry or bitter about anything, rarely post online and all I said was 'it's not for me' regarding your content. I did make an extravagant statement about taste but I'll stand by that. I really am sorry if I upset you but I think you have to be careful (and I mean myself as well here) whom you patronise. The majority of people on the internet may be gullible newbies or just gullible, or whatever, but certainly not all people are ill-informed. I love the culture of music and musicianship and I would always advocate art over commodity. I wish you all success in future with your channel and endeavours. Take care.

[@JVMC_ZR1]

We have to recognize that Darkglass is the best in bass amplification currently. It is the SVT/Ampeg of this era. While all the other companies were resting on their laurels and selling you the same amp from 1969 like Ampeg, Darkglass is pushing the envelope forward. Ampeg claiming you couldn't make The SVT better while other boutique manufacturers making pedals sounding identical to the SVT, in a small footprint. As for Dingwall... they're definitely a step up from vintage instruments with greater tone and ergonomics. It's also easier to play because of their banjo 🪕 frets. I still prefer Warwick though.

[@RodneyMcG]

We don't have to recognize something that is completely opinion. It's the best according to YOU. Darkglass did something interesting and has a defineable sound. It's not for everybody. There's far more out there other than the 2 options you listed. Trace Eliiot, Hartke, Markbass, GK, the list goes on. Dingwall also created something new and interesting. It's not for everyone, just like Darkglass. There's nothing wrong with either product. I would offer that your argument applies exactly to the people i'm criticizing. So called bassists are resing on thier laurels by buying the same gear, to get the same sound over and over again rather than trying to create anything new with those pieces of gear, or god forbid, trying out any of the other multitude of gear choices available. We've never had more options for sound as metal bassists, and never been less original. Ironic.

[@JVMC_ZR1]

@@RodneyMcG The reason you said it's not for everyone is because you have only heard Darkglass and Dingwall in a Metal context. I use my Darkglass rig in blues, Jazz, etc, and the rig has all the "warmth", "tube sound", and "punch 👊" that people are after. Same thing with Dingwall. Lee Sklar is a perfect example of how great Dingwall can be on sessions outside of Metal. If you are going to bring in other manufacturers, don't bring in mid tier manufacturers like Hartke, Markbass, and GK. At least bring in manufacturers like Mesa, Bergantino, Genzler, and Eich. At least that way it sounds like you have good taste for gear 😂. Gear is a lot like the rides at a Theme Park. There is usually a line for the best gear/rides. Before the Alpha Omega pedal was created, it took 5+ pedals to get that sound. It's just a little convenient to just have one.

[@RodneyMcG]

The fact that you have to make so many wild assumptions about what I think, says a lot about why you are arguing this position. Your comment is nothing but a string of logical fallacies and pseudo intellectual condescension. I've mentioned multiple times how Lee Sklar and John Taylor use them and get their own sound, proving the laziness of the players who don't do anything new with the tools given. Sorry, I get that you have some unearned sense of superiority, but you're not educating anyone on anything, and don't have some massive depth of knowledge others don't. It's a bad play to argue from a position of assuming the other person's ignorance when you know nothing about them, or their knowledge base. Then you go on to some gear elitist bullshit because I didn't mention gear that was up to your "standard" as if to just talk about variety I have to mention your fan boy favorites. Did you get your check from them for defending their honor all over the web yet? You're not having a discussion, your just being a condescending ass. Funny, this all sounds exactly like the people I'm talking about in the video. No wonder it seems to have burned your ass. Discussions about gear are also like a theme park. There's a sign at the beginning that disqualifies you if you don't meet certain height or health standards. This discussion requires you not to be a condescending jackass that makes himself feel better about his life by being an obnoxious know it all on the internet with strangers. Being a gear fanboy is embarrassing. Time for some personal reflection@@JVMC_ZR1

[@eileenfabri5497]

Dingwall are cool looking, but, they seem to sound really tinny to me. I can't justify spending that much for a bass that sounds like that.

[@60degreelobwedge82]

I'm the opposite, I think they sound cool but look stupid.

[@DD_Vandal]

The thing with dingwalls is that the are very versitile tone-wise but everyone just dials for that one specific sound.

[@eileenfabri5497]

@@DD_Vandal well, that, and the fact that they are hugely over priced.

[@kevinpelepako7381]

@@eileenfabri5497 I think that's true for the musical instrument market as a whole right now. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever imagine I'd have to pay over $3k for a mass produced Spector Euro or an EBMM Stingray. Compared to even 5 years ago pre-Covid, the prices are insane! (Cue the old Crazy Eddie commercials)

[@poochiecheeks627]

Absolute truth The Mesa worship and other brand simping that happens on TB is sad and discouraging -"you can't get the "brand X" sound without this bass from this year and this era of the company with these pickups and this body wood and this preamp through an SVT and an 810. I have 20k worth of basses exactly like this with another one on order and sound exactly like famous bass player Y who got all their stuff for free and didnt care too much what it sounded like, look at how original I am!" Its like a race to spend the most money to reach some gear zenith to become cool enough to post in a club with 5000 pages talking about the same 5 topics ad nauseam Rodney is not the hero we deserve, but the one that we need

[@RodneyMcG]

So true. It's like the guy who buys the Maserati and only knows how to drive 60MPH to show it off.

[@markusorth5450]

That said, Mesa makes great stuff.

[@RodneyMcG]

The M9 and the 412 neo cabs are a lethal combo. It's also not the only one available, or right for everyone. That fact is good because they are both discontinued!