5 Riders, 5 Senas. Testing Video and Audio in a Multi-Paired Group Ride.

[@IslandADV]

I think pack talk comm systems for bikes are so fascinating. I work with communication systems at my part time job and I always think its cool that we create similar ad-hoc systems just for bikes. As for your audio, I could hear and make out the conversations fine. Video quality is stellar.

[@604Bluelight]

@Island ADV. Thanks bro! Interesting work you do part time! The audio in this footage is useable. I don't think it's great compared to the Sena 10c audio that I'm used to using. The problem with the Sena 10c is the video quality is really poor in today's standards, even with their latest 10c EVO model., Sena needs to come out with stabilization in their 10c range then I would just stick with that. Packtalks are great. I think superior to Sena for the most part. Again, the problem is 90% of the riders out there use Senas and definitely all of my friends that ride, so we gotta make due with what we have. And Cardo doesn't have any all-in-one Comm/Camera solution like the Sena 10c. One of these days someone is gonna come out with the perfect setup. Sena has the tech to do it... not sure why they're holding back.

[@Questingknight247]

That’s a good looking group of bikes.

[@604Bluelight]

Yup. Just missing an SV1000 and a FZ1! :D

[@604epicsaxproductions]

Man, that was a fun group ride. Missing those pre-Covid restricted ride days The video quality from that Sony is really nice as is your audio. The audio from the SENAs is quiet but discernible. I wish there was an easy solution

[@604Bluelight]

Yeah. Hoping we can have more of these rides when it gets warmer and restrictions ease up. We all can use it. I'll get the audio sorted out this year. I have a few things to try.

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

Oh ya

[@604Bluelight]

I forgot about this video. This wasn't supposed to be released today. LOL! Ah well,

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

@@604Bluelight see how it does

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

Your voice audio sounds good, the challenge is recording decent audio of everyone else. I just rewatched my vid of the same day, the audio is very different. I remember I ran the arfa helmet but I don't remember what Sena I was running that day. Would you ever consider ditching the sony and all it's challenges for another setup?? I'm thinking if I were to start from scratch I'd still buy my same setup. I just need to test mesh in a group situation.

[@604Bluelight]

Still nothing beats the Sena 10c audio. Too bad the video quality is sub par. I'm still in the quest for the perfect setup but can't really fault the Sony cam in this one. The Sony does it's job, I just need to figure out how to record the Sena audio into the Sony without using sidetone. I've been working around this by simply using the Sena 10c audio on the Sony video which has been working great. The problem with this is I need two cameras rolling all the time. I'll figure it out.

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

@@604Bluelight your aug 24 2017 vid, I was just comparing that audio. It’s as good as it gets, compare to my vid of same night. The audio pack does a good job too. We gotta get back to this otherwise it’s not so great to listen to

[@604Bluelight]

@@GIZZMOTORSPORTS Yup! If I use the Sena 10c audio it's perfect. I'm just getting tired of the sub par video quality of the 10c camera. If I want to create good video/audio moto content, I have to run both the Sony and Sena cameras and just mash the audio from the Sena with the video from the Sony. If just riding around and I don't care about video quality, the Sena does the job.

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

@@604Bluelight it’s a lot of brain damage, they don’t make it easy.

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

I'm looking for something to post up on the Sena FB page, the audio from your mic is good here. I have to say again the audio of everyone else is not good, it's so, so tinny. I'm going to watch your old vids to see if it's gotten worse over time.

[@604Bluelight]

The audio is recorded by the Sony in this case. The audio on the Sena 10c is superior for both myself and those I'm paired with. The video quality sucks on the 10c though.

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

@@604Bluelight that's why your older vid audio is better. Weather is good this weekend, I'll try to get out to do more testing. I now have some really, really good solo audio. Unbelievably good audio through the Sena, but when I hook up both coms units, not so good.

[@604Bluelight]

@@GIZZMOTORSPORTS I'm not sure if it's even possible to have perfect audio when recording paired connections. When you get footage, upload and send it to me.

[@raeneshadow]

Audio is so much rougher than the 10c audio. Frustrating as all get out! Wish we could have audio as good as we can hear from the bluetooth communications into the cameras. It really is incredible that it's still a problem after all these years!

[@604Bluelight]

Thing is, Sena doesn't see this as a problem. I mean why would you want to use another camera to take videos of your rides? That's what the 10c is for! If Sena would just add stabilization to their 10c line, then it would be the end of it. C'mon Sena, get on this!

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

was this pre covid?

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

ah it wasn't, I see I have using the HJC I got after taking covid time off

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

I hate this HJC. Maybe I'll do a vid parking my truck on it, or sending it into the river.

[@604Bluelight]

This was August of 2020 when restrictions were lifted and we were getting nearly zero reported covid cases. I guess that's all down the toilet now considering all the variants that have come out since then. Ugh. Too bad your HJC is too big for me. HJC's fit me really well. I'd love an Rpha as my next helmet.