5 Signs You're OVER EDITING Landscape Photos

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Mark Denney

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The signs that you're over-editing landscape photos are not always easy to see, but knowing which signs to specifically to look out for will certainly help you achieve a better edited photo. In this Lightroom tutorial I discuss which signs of over-editing I look out for within my landscape photography post-processing workflow.
When I first started editing my images in Lightroom, I would always end up pushing my photos way too far from a post-processing perspective and would usually end up with images that contained many if not all of the 5 signs of an over-edited photo. Some of these signs are more easily identifiable than others, but any one of them can turn your great photo into an over-edited nightmare.
The Lightroom tips covered in this tutorial are not solely for landscape photography, but rather can be applied to any style of photography. Once I became comfortable with the signs of over-editing and corrected the photo editing mistakes I was making, my photos instantly improved and I started producing some of my best work ever!
If you enjoyed this video, please consider giving it a thumbs up and let me know what you think in the comments below - I guarantee I'll get back to ya.
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@Noksus
@Noksus 5 жыл бұрын
To see when you've added enough saturation, do this: Pull the saturation slider all the way to max, then without looking at the slider, move it back towards 0 until the photo looks like no saturation has been added at all. Then look back at the slider and you should notice it's something above 0. This will work unless your eyes can't perceive color....
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
NikoliZZer Great tip👍
@SimonTebbenhamMusic
@SimonTebbenhamMusic 5 жыл бұрын
I like that tip a lot. I do music mixing and a danger, looking at the scope of eq frequencies and levels is to mix with your eyes instead of your ears. The same can happen here with those sliders with the perceived effect of what should be happening vs what's actually happening on screen! The mind is a beast hence the walk away and come back tip also being so effective.
@bananamaniac2
@bananamaniac2 5 жыл бұрын
As a beginner, this was probably the the most useful lightroom tutorial i have seen
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome to hear - thank you!
@dozerjohn
@dozerjohn 5 жыл бұрын
I'm on a 12 step program trying to kick my clarity addiction. It's a struggle but I am making progress.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
John Grammaticus Haha! Hang in there bud!
@DobromirManchev
@DobromirManchev 5 жыл бұрын
Guess everyone who first discovers Lightroom gets instantly addicted to Clarity. Then you realize it's not actually all that great and you have to use it very sparingly... But damn if it isn't tempting to just go crazy with the slider and get them "dope HDR shots", eh? :D
@Tyekynan12
@Tyekynan12 5 жыл бұрын
That makes two of us... I am slowly lowering the fill from 100% on my clarity layer. Edit: I had topaz labs clarity in mind.
@jakejjs
@jakejjs 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I learned a trick from Peter Mackinnons video where he uses a high pass sharpening action. Beats the clarity slider any day! It's subtle but bumps the sharpness up and makes it look so crisp
@MrVangassen
@MrVangassen 5 жыл бұрын
Clarity... Its like a crack cockaine of fotography. Never enough, tough to let go.
@karlthefirst8690
@karlthefirst8690 5 жыл бұрын
Quick follow-up, Mark: would you consider addressing the vibrance vs saturation dichotomy further at some point? I notice a lot of photographers do this nowadays (lower sat/raise vib) and I get that vibrance affects mid tone saturation whereas saturation is broader, but I often have a hard time seeing the difference when I’m editing. I’d love your particular take on this subject as it’s obviously an important one that’s working for a lot of people. Thanks as always!
@stevebennettphotography
@stevebennettphotography 5 жыл бұрын
You can normally tell if you’ve over processed an image, it gets more likes on Insta 🙄. Gonna have a proper look at that vignette method 👍
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Bennett Haha #truth
@PedalPowerTouring
@PedalPowerTouring 5 жыл бұрын
too funny Steve but yeah I think you may be on to something regarding the Insta likes. ;-) Also small world we have here. No relation, (maybe distant cousin) but I am also a Bennett and I believe we follow each other on Insta too. (@outnaboutphotos) @Mark, your channel was in my feed yesterday and I am pleased to have discovered you and have been binge watching trying to get caught up. Look forward to following along and seeing where this takes you. Cheers! ~Ron
@63resindog
@63resindog 5 жыл бұрын
Insta, fuck insta, when I start editing like insta, I quit!!, no one should do insta.
@deephotographs4977
@deephotographs4977 5 жыл бұрын
lol yes, the weird thing is all the images I've sold ARE over saturated and even completely unrealistic in colour in some instances. Yet, the natural edits are ignored.
@stevebennettphotography
@stevebennettphotography 5 жыл бұрын
Pedal Power Touring oh yeah hey Ron 🙂. When I was growing up I thought Bennett was a strange unique surname. How wrong can you be, common as ..... 😂
@MovingTargetOne
@MovingTargetOne 5 жыл бұрын
Heard it here first folks, the sun is bright
@tobiasyoder
@tobiasyoder 5 жыл бұрын
but seriously this is easy to miss with the over obsession with "don't blow the highlights!"
@uwgrasse
@uwgrasse 4 жыл бұрын
And not just "at the end of the day."
@shagmesilly78
@shagmesilly78 4 жыл бұрын
Way to take it out of context. hahaha!!!
@valeryprevil489
@valeryprevil489 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. It is true though. Sometimes I over edit and totally forget the simple things. Unless you are going for something surreal, then KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid)😂😁
@YourMajesty143
@YourMajesty143 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen the sun take any sort of intelligence aptitude test, so I find that doubtful...
@TheOnlyGuess
@TheOnlyGuess 4 жыл бұрын
What I like most about your videos is that you spot the commun mistakes and this helps how to avoid them. This has reminded me of an Arabic proverb that says "I learned evil not to evil but to prevent myself from it, and whoever does not know evil will fall into it". So that's it, if someone doesn't about the mistakes in photography or post-processing, he will continue doing them over and over because he couldn't find out that this was wrong. I hope you got my point here and it's been always a pleasure to watch your videos.
@articlebadbwoy
@articlebadbwoy 5 жыл бұрын
I made all these mistakes when I first got into editing my raw files. Took me a while to realise that often less is more. It's getting it to the point where you are happy but not over the top. Let's be honest, photography is a permanent learning curve and a very enjoyable one. I look back to some of my early photos and cringe nowadays but I'm never disappointed as if we dont make mistakes, we will never improve. To me it's as much about being a perfectionist as it is about the snots and giggles. Upgraded earlier this year to a sony a7iii full frame and for me it was a game changer to make the move from aps-c. Great video, really enjoyed it, came up on my feed but you have gained a new subscriber. Look forward to checking more of your content.
@Saltycures
@Saltycures 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, “at the end of the day”, the sun isn’t all that bright and eventually disappears...😂😂 In all seriousness, great video!
@Kinsman19
@Kinsman19 4 жыл бұрын
Not to self: saturation above 30 causes severe Wizard of Ozzing of photographs. In all seriousness, your videos are a huge help. Thanks.
@brnby8984
@brnby8984 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, your explanation for #3 and edge detection in Lightroom is spot on. Great stuff!
@jomy10-games
@jomy10-games 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was already doing most of these tips to not over edit your photo without knowing. I love how you explain what happens when you change the sliders, it's important to know what they do!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
jomy10 Much appreciated - thank you!
@brunodays
@brunodays 5 жыл бұрын
that bridge photo is absolutely gorgeous....
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
BDAYZ Thanks! Glad ya think so!
@RoSoSilva
@RoSoSilva 5 жыл бұрын
You are the best! Thank you so much for all your REAL TIPS, not half-tips as many do. Thumbs up!
@candykanefpv98
@candykanefpv98 5 жыл бұрын
If you're so concerned about the sun being blown out you can do a little radial mask thingy and selectively lower the highlights specifically on the inside of the sun.
@darksideemt
@darksideemt 5 жыл бұрын
Great tips!. Was just looking at pics I took last year in London (we are about to go back) and man did I not know how to edit well. I've started following several people on youtube and after learning better LR stuff I'm amazed at how over edited I was making them.
@earavichandran
@earavichandran 5 жыл бұрын
I am learning Lightroom now. Much needed video. This is what I need. What to do and what not to do. Great one. Thanks for your valuable video.
@shellewood
@shellewood 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips! I love that someone finally gave some visual cues for what "gone to far" might look like. I'll be putting these into practice right away!
@jferjen702
@jferjen702 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I find myself overthinking and getting stuck in a terrible editing loop of starting over constantly. This is helpful!
@bradleyzimmerman4184
@bradleyzimmerman4184 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love digital photography because of the control you have over the final output. This love was made even more intense coming from a long background of slide film usage. Today, people can go hog wild manipulating their photos. Far too many times images are over processed to the point that it is ridiculous! Definitely a case of "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should." Artistic license is one thing but sometimes, less is more.
@drumvannelle69
@drumvannelle69 5 жыл бұрын
This was really one of a kind video that really aim to educate in simple way. Thanks a lot
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it! Thanks for watching👍
@timmurphy5053
@timmurphy5053 5 жыл бұрын
A good vid about an important topic. I especially liked the customized vignette tip. That one is getting incorporated straightaway!
@leniehulse1621
@leniehulse1621 5 жыл бұрын
This video was so good that I shared it with my photography class!
@valeryprevil489
@valeryprevil489 4 жыл бұрын
Catching up on your vids. Thanks for the tips. It’s taken me a long time to remember what you said towards the end: try to mimic how it looked when you were there.
@recycleretirement80
@recycleretirement80 5 жыл бұрын
Mark, Great video of the basics. As usual, you've done a fantastic job explaining the issues. You're a natural educator.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that - Thank you!
@MaineMountainMedia
@MaineMountainMedia 5 жыл бұрын
Great tips Mark. Finding the balance is tough but essential to a great image!
@christinecastellano8200
@christinecastellano8200 4 жыл бұрын
Thank so much for this. Your videos are so helpful, well articulated and understandable.
@niftytwo
@niftytwo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark. You never let me down with your videos. I’m addicted to your calm, sensible manner. Thanks again Mate. Neville.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Neville Jones Thank ya Neville🙏
@olivermee4593
@olivermee4593 5 жыл бұрын
I watched a "professional photographers" editing tutorial on here a while back. The first thing he said to do was bump the clarity up to 100 and I just about died of laughter. So thanks for uploading an actually useful tutorial!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Oliver Mee Haha! That’s bananas!!! Thanks Oliver👍
@fsxaircanada01
@fsxaircanada01 5 жыл бұрын
Peter McKinnon?
@olivermee4593
@olivermee4593 5 жыл бұрын
Muchen no no, I don’t think he would ever recommend that lol. Can’t remember his channel now but he wasn’t that big
@jessekerr6544
@jessekerr6544 5 жыл бұрын
“Bump up the clarity” you mean “find the heaviest sledge hammer you can wield and smash it up to 100”.
@TomGrubbe
@TomGrubbe 5 жыл бұрын
That must have been Serge Ramelli.
@gauravgill8889
@gauravgill8889 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely love the content that you put out, keep up the good work Mark :D
@By.ozalsa
@By.ozalsa 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly your channel is in my short favorite list. Respect!
@richard217
@richard217 5 жыл бұрын
randomly found your channel..and stricken gold...learning so much..thanks mate..Rich from Brisbane Australia...
@espressoshot21
@espressoshot21 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. These are the best tips I've ever seen on KZbin. I love your channel. Keep up the great work!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Eunice Kim Thanks so much Eunice!
@richarddow8967
@richarddow8967 5 жыл бұрын
Loved your sincerity and openness, I'm new to serious photography and really glad I came across this very practical advice. I come from a math background and do mathematical modeling for a living and couldn't agree more with your insight about clarity/sharpening. I would even generalize it beyond that, any software tool you use ( photography or otherwise) places your faith and trust in the ability of the programmer/mathematician. Long winded way of me saying I am a math guy striving to spend the time to get the picture right in the field and not rely on a set of software assumptions that may or may not work very well.
@MikeOBrienMedia
@MikeOBrienMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mark! Thanks for sharing this! About a year ago, I made most of these mistakes on most of my photos. I am getting a lot better but this video really helped me to define some boundaries. You deserve way more subs. Keep up the great work!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Mike O'Brien Many thanks Mike!
@TheMaLiaEvans
@TheMaLiaEvans 4 жыл бұрын
Shortcut F and walk away to see if you oversaturated your photo is absolutely one of the best ways to know if you have gone to far.....Thanks
@kaidean
@kaidean 5 жыл бұрын
I alway walk away for a while (days sometimes), I also like to make my image full screen and walk as far away from it as I can and look back at it from a distance, this helps me in my edits. This was the first of your videos I have seen, great job! I just subscribed
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Kai Dean Thanks so much Kai!
@andychattaway5620
@andychattaway5620 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video, I think we all need to watch this type of video now and then for the tips and advice that is so useful but often forgotten.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Andy Chattaway Thanks Andy! I’m glad you enjoyed it man👍
@panagiotiskaranatsis3593
@panagiotiskaranatsis3593 5 жыл бұрын
Great tips, a couple of things really helped me here! One thing I found out about saturation so far is when it comes to neutral tones. If you have white/gray clouds and You pump up the saturation You might start seeing some kind of tint like a yellow or a blue. Most of the time You want your grays/whites, well, colorless. What I do sometimes is crank it up until there is a visible tint and then use half the amount of it. Then there is saturation for each color but don't lose much detail!
@markgarrett2971
@markgarrett2971 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I really appreciate how you identified indicators such as the Halos and other telltale signs
@RobBatesPhotography
@RobBatesPhotography 4 жыл бұрын
Took me years to sort out that halo effect, everyone was telling me it chromatic abberation, poor lenses etc, turns out i was over sharpening. Great vid man
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Rob Bates Photography Thanks Rob!
@outofoffice9410
@outofoffice9410 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid with some great tips. It frustrate me when over saturated photos get so much positive feedback. It drives me mental!!!! Thanks for the vid
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Out Of Office Many thanks!
@7GtwNYkHYs
@7GtwNYkHYs 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome advice! I've noticed these kind of things as I'm trying to take my photography to the next level with editing tools but hearing and seeing it explained helps a lot. I feel oversaturation is difficult to quantify because it varies greatly from scene to scene and camera and display, it's one of those things I think needs to be felt and your idea of taking a step away then coming back to a photo is a great idea! Sometimes staring at the same photo for a while desensitizes my eyes and only when I've come back after taking a break I realize everything looked wrong.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad to hear the video was helpful! Walking away from an edit might be the single best editing advise I've ever received. It helps me everytime.
@michaela8802
@michaela8802 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I particularly like the tutorial about the alternate vignette method. Also, walking away from your work for a while, then checking back later to see if you still like it is another great peace of advice. I don’t know how many times I thought I had an image spot on, posted it, then revisited it the next day and wondered what’s this crap, lol. Which leads to another suggestion - never edit lots of different photos one after another, especially if you’re at all tired. Your eyes will almost always start playing tricks on you.
@mitchellj.oconnor2508
@mitchellj.oconnor2508 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. It does make me want to return to older photos and re-edit. Will definitely be much more aware moving forward. Great video.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Mitchell! Glad you enjoyed the video - I appreciate you watching!
@RickScheibner
@RickScheibner 5 жыл бұрын
I really like your approach to vignetting. I've been getting away from LR, but have found that the 'Darken/Lighten Center' feature in the Nik Photo Efex software works great for my purposes. Very subtle, and adjusts luminosity rather than the overall exposure. It's possible to over-do it there, of course, but small adjustments make a positive but unobtrusive effect. Thanks for the video here.
@Er1c91
@Er1c91 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much this video was so informative and helpful! Really like your personality and thorough explanations new sub for sure👍🏻😎
@justinilla
@justinilla 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Key insight as with many creative endeavors: Walk away and come back to it later. I find the histogram particularly helpful with reigning in my edits to shadows/highlights and contrast and have wondered if the different colors represented in it could help with saturation decisions somehow 🤔. Also, wasn't covered here, but I have found myself mistakenly tweaking the temperature of photos to the point that they always appear warm. Before/after comparisons (a/b) are helpful on some level too!
@farsekel
@farsekel 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this! It helped that I've been using Lightroom for a while and been guilty of some of the same mistakes. Great helpful tricks on how to test your adjustments. You for sure gained a subscriber today.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
farsekel Thanks so much! Glad to hear the video was helpful!
@b991228
@b991228 5 жыл бұрын
It’s sometimes helpful to use the sharpness slider in the radial brush to do localized adjustments. For global sharpening keep the radius low (=
@TomGrubbe
@TomGrubbe 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and great advice. One thing I see in many amateur-looking photos is the use of global saturation where everything is way over saturated. I've learned to selectively adjust saturation to individual colors and areas of interest.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Grubbe Thanks Tom - Glad you enjoyed the video!
@anujasharma9677
@anujasharma9677 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent inputs for editing, Mark. Thank you. Very useful tips.
@jeffselfphotography3066
@jeffselfphotography3066 4 жыл бұрын
Love your Bodie Island lighthouse image! I tried to get a good image of it back in August, but a storm came through just as I was setting up. Made a beeline back to the parking lot just before it hit. I don't like playing when the lightning is approaching.
@carlitopablo5567
@carlitopablo5567 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Very tutorial!! Direct to the point . Will be watching more of your videos. This one just came up :) stoked !
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
carlito pablo Awesome man! Thanks so much and I appreciate ya stopping by to leave me this comment👊
@markgoeman8139
@markgoeman8139 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent points and good guidelines to keep in mind when editing. I especially love your vignetting tip! Thank you.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Goeman Thanks Mark! Glad the tips were helpful!
@brapperdan
@brapperdan 5 жыл бұрын
If you are new to editing listen to this man. I went to school for photography and he is spot on.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
DapperDan Thanks man👊
@PaulSlowey
@PaulSlowey 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, On the flip side of over-saturation is how some experts dial back their saturation and really make their images otherworldly. I'd love to see a video with your insights on what else should be on our mind if we want to move to an under-saturated realm.
@leighgallant3243
@leighgallant3243 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark, only just found your channel and subscribed. As somebody who only really uses Lightroom for my post processing there were some really useful pointers there. Look forward to seeing more of your content in the future (I need to go back through past videos now to catch up 😉). Thanks again
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and subscribing Leigh! It's very much appreciated.
@waterman308
@waterman308 5 жыл бұрын
that was very practical and helpful! thank you.
@jgreenler
@jgreenler 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mark. I am guilty of all 5! Makes me want to go back to some of my favorite images and hit the reset button and start over.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
It happens to all of us at one time or another! Still happens to me as well from time to time. Thanks for watching Jeff.
@ahmas08
@ahmas08 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video man!!been watching alot of stuff on YT about lightroom and this one is right up there..looking forward to watching more of your stuff..just subscribed =)
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
You are the man! I appreciate the sub and the views!
@williamcharlesworth4617
@williamcharlesworth4617 4 жыл бұрын
Mark, you have such a good presentation, organized and loaded with useful information. Hope some photo school doesn't pirate you away from us. Love your video's. Have plans to go through your video and take copious notes, so they are at my fingertips as I go through my images. I already have some off these from other videos you have done. Great stuff. Thank you!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
William Charlesworth Thanks so much for this William! I really appreciate it!
@dwtolar
@dwtolar 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Kodak 126 rangefinder camera in the foreground. I got the Kodak Instamatic X-90 in 1975 when they made 3 models like that.
@thanawatchonviriya6370
@thanawatchonviriya6370 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the good tips!!
@staceyleigh7818
@staceyleigh7818 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This helped me out a lot!
@JoDaniels
@JoDaniels 4 жыл бұрын
I am a PhotoShop beginner and this video really helps me in going forward to become more experienced. Thanks for this very inspiring video!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@49er1680
@49er1680 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos. You don't go overboard with the subject. Easy to understand and very helpful. I've been wanting to really get into photography, but my life doesn't always have that time. I have an old DSLR (Nikon D3100). Been wanting to get the D5600. I just need the body cause already have the lenses. Anyways, thank you for the tips! Have a great day.
@URSENIORUTUBER55
@URSENIORUTUBER55 5 жыл бұрын
As allows Mark................. Great Tutorial ..................Always so well explained ( so as not to intimidate the student ) in a clear and concise way..............Thank you
@christyhill7258
@christyhill7258 5 жыл бұрын
Thank for you time, Your videos are helpful!
@bh6279
@bh6279 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark for the info
@hasiona
@hasiona 3 жыл бұрын
You are incredible sir,,, indeed I am learning so much watching your videos.. thank you so much...🙂🙂
@teresamay3773
@teresamay3773 5 жыл бұрын
Great tips. I'm a very new user to Lightroom and I've just gotten back into taking photos, these tips will help tons!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Teresa May That’s awesome to hear! Thanks for watching Teresa!
@muhammedsaleem3941
@muhammedsaleem3941 4 жыл бұрын
your the best who makes photography tutorials in youtube. just the balance and right amount of everything.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@boatman222345
@boatman222345 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Like you I try always to work towards a natural look as over processing images has always seemed to me to be an open admission that the subject simply lacks intrinsic value. Over saturation can also be a trap by which the photographer attempts to overcome the limitations of poor technique and/or inappropriate composition. Like you I've never been able to come up with a magic formula to assist me in avoiding over processing images but I did stumble upon a wonderful book that ably illustrates the incredible power of color subtlety in images. The title of the book is "Ansel Adams In Color." It contains an assortment of Ansel's finest color images and viewing the images drives home time and again the advantage of subtle rather than super saturated color! While Ansel was of course primarily a B&W photographer of landscapes, and while he expressed serious reservations regarding the limitations of color photography, he also worked in color throughout his long and distinguished career and to my way of thinking some of his best work is represented in this book. Well worth a close look!
@RobertWedderburn
@RobertWedderburn 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This is a great reminder!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@RobertWedderburn
@RobertWedderburn 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkDenneyPhoto Pleasure!!
@peterbennett4783
@peterbennett4783 4 жыл бұрын
That authentic presentation by you was a fantastic reality check for me and I thank you for your time and effort! kind regards from Peter (Melbourne, Australia)
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter! Glad you enjoyed it!
@phil750123
@phil750123 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, you are slowly becoming one of my favourite landscape you tubers
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
phil750123 Really appreciate that Phil! I know there’s a ton of options on KZbin so to be one of your favorites means a lot!
@BruceLauderdale
@BruceLauderdale 5 жыл бұрын
Once you’ve edited it, leave it for an hour.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Bruce Lauderdale Absolutely! I always end up making additional changes when I return.
@shawn4820
@shawn4820 5 жыл бұрын
I typically leave them for even longer! Sleep on them for a while and go back.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Shawn P Yep - the longer the better👍
@ed_halley
@ed_halley 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkDenneyPhoto I have taken to the habit of not even getting a first look at my camera's roll until at least a few days have passed. This lets me enjoy the time on-site separately from the time I even think about the shots, and when I do go to the shots I am looking more critically at the composition than I could with the viewfinder. As for all of your tips-- if the viewer can tell what steps you've taken, you probably took it too far.
@zionelarcega1959
@zionelarcega1959 5 жыл бұрын
i agree
@RiccardoPareschi
@RiccardoPareschi 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual ! Interesting the vignette method.
@JeffWalshPhotography
@JeffWalshPhotography 5 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I really love this...great stuff
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks - glad ya think so👍🏼
@BLADE-4
@BLADE-4 5 жыл бұрын
Mark! Well done! Thank you SO MUCH for this video. First... I did over do Sat. Of course it was fun when I first started with Photography with my latest iteration of the iPhone. Couple years ago. Since, I am a proud owner of 2 Phantom 4 Pro and Adv. Also just a few months ago I have my Sony a6300 with a kit and tele. I have ALWYAS till now wondered what the vignette was even for. I naturally said what you confirmed here. THANK YOU for that tip on vignettes! Cant wait to try. I am no subscribed. Your video here is going really improve things. I had heard a while back that the idea is to edit to what you saw. Have been doing that for some time, but I appreciate the lightroom hints here. And again. We did here it first here, that the Sun is bright. AH..... But did you know it does NOT have a big ring around it. lol. I absolutely love the hints about going too far. I am a sunset guy. I fly corporate jets for a living and love high altitude sunsets! Always wondered how not to get that ring. Now I know. Hey. The sun is bright. As in piloting, it is in photography. Sometimes we need to keep the obvious simple and break down the complex into manageable information. Thanks again Mark, Mark L Blade 4 Productions.
@8dioproductions
@8dioproductions 5 жыл бұрын
Super useful! Thanks Mark!
@jkendal
@jkendal 5 жыл бұрын
NUMBER FOUR!! One of my biggest pet peeves and it's so prevalent.
@karlthefirst8690
@karlthefirst8690 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, another excellent video. i wish I could really pinpoint why they’re so great. Simple? Not simple exactly. Unpretentious? To the point? I don’t know, but I ALWAYS get at least one very useful tip from your videos, which is a pretty amazing statistic, trust me.
@bannor4-930
@bannor4-930 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark, I did not know about many of those tips. I am extremely new to editing my images. I have never done anything like this before and I am grateful to have found your video before I have even applied my first edit to a photo. I will now try what you mentioned in Affinity Photo.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Bannor4 - My pleasure - glad you enjoyed the video!
@escarameiaf
@escarameiaf 5 жыл бұрын
Very useful tips. Thank you.
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. I've been working on more subtle clarity and saturation myself.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
John Drummond Thanks John! Glad it was helpful!
@dilullr
@dilullr 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, and you make good points. The only thing I would emphasize stronger (you did touch on this somewhat) is the importance of using local adjustments via the brush, radial filter, grad filter, HSL panel etc. to avoid over-doing the adjustment in unintended areas. And using masking when sharpening. I've found that minimal use of global sliders works best for me. Thanks again for the good advise.
@mariuszjeruzalski6847
@mariuszjeruzalski6847 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Mark, found your channel few days ago. Watching few movies per day. Good points and advices! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and know-how. Greetings from Poland! ;)
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Mariusz Jeruzalski Thanks so much Mariusz - appreciate ya watching!
@mreroots
@mreroots 5 жыл бұрын
very useful video! thank you!
@andreaudet
@andreaudet 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Mark! Regarding saturation, my technique is: I usually start my processing by going straight to the Calibration panel, where I add saturation to just one channel (usually the blue channel... depends on the colours in the image). I usually push it up to anywhere between 35 and 75, whatever looks best, depending on the photo. Then, if needed, I'll go to the HSL panel and do some adjustments there. At this point, I rarely have to even touch the saturation and vibrancy sliders.... and if I do, we're talking micro-adjustments only. This gives me the look that I like, which is to have colourful images that "pop" while remaining realistic and believable.
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Andre Audet Appreciate ya Andre and thanks for watching! That’s a great tip regarding the Calibration panel👍
@JohnHaswellPhotography
@JohnHaswellPhotography 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly the most useful lightroom editing video I've seen for landscapes. I'm going to share this in my group "landscape photography on KZbin UK" Thanks
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
John Haswell Photography WOW!! Thanks John - really appreciate that!
@keithspangler4814
@keithspangler4814 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great educational video.
@linkedinfred
@linkedinfred 3 жыл бұрын
This was really useful. I’m guilty on all the five counts. Love the vignette tip too.
@tedrydstrom7478
@tedrydstrom7478 4 жыл бұрын
Very good I learned something thank you!
@lasvegasphotographer7836
@lasvegasphotographer7836 5 жыл бұрын
Great tips mark 👌
@crazygooseventures
@crazygooseventures 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips! I’ve had to really practice restraint on my photos and notice a subtle change in the quality of my final product now with them being much more “refined”. The vignette tip was fantastic as I was wondering how to apply vignette when my focal point wasn’t in the centre of the photo. Thanks!
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Alan Yim Thanks Alan!
@rayrichards5153
@rayrichards5153 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your analysis and methodology. Your edits seem to be very similar to mine. This video reinforced my edit methodology as generally correct. I was told a number of years ago by a world class photographer that "If it looks photoshopped, it is overworked".
@MarkDenneyPhoto
@MarkDenneyPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Ray Richards Thanks Ray! I appreciate it!
@bmackVR
@bmackVR 5 жыл бұрын
Mark, you can use photoshops GAMUT WARNING tool to check if you have colors out of gamut or clipped colors. View>Gamut Warning, you can then use a saturation mask to see how far you have pushed colors or how much further you can push other colors. You could always increase the saturation very high and then mask in/out the area that need attention. I don't think this is a perfect solution, as sometimes a color can still be inside the color gamut but be oversaturated for the photo. For example a super saturated sky that is just inside the gamut may still look over saturated and unnatural, but its a starting point!
@antoniogil9447
@antoniogil9447 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the vignetting tip!
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