5 Simple Rules For PULLING In ZZZ - DON'T Make Mistakes (Zenless Zone Zero)

[@pulledporc5334]

Rule number 6: The more you want a character, the harder it will be to get them. The desire sensor is real.

[@AverageLuckGamer]

So true

[@papacharlie-niner148]

This is my life. Been Nekomata's #1 fan from the first second I played the game, still haven't been able to pull her after over 200 tries.

[@cart8909]

​@@papacharlie-niner148 I like nekomata but I never wished to ever pull for her, and she was my 2nd S rank after only 60 pulls, and I really just want lycaon but he hasn't came home after over 200 pulls 😭

[@papacharlie-niner148]

@@cart8909 That's the corollary to this rule. The more you want an agent and fail to get them, the more stories you'll hear from other people about how they got 6 copies or lost their 50/50 to that "stupid, useless cat-girl again."

[@ZenlessZoneEnjoyer]

I started playing the game cause of Jane ad. Got her in first 10

[@AETHER_17]

I only have two rules for pulling. 1- skip everyone 2- pull for BIG DADDY

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Let’s go!

[@arcanumdelta]

NEED THAT BIG DADDY BOAR IN MY ..TEAM

[@metal9076]

AMEN

[@testerfox6998]

furries > waifu/husbando

[@mike16apha16]

big daddy is a funny way to spell Miyabi but alright

[@ayayron8221]

I saw Burnice and tuned out whatever you were saying. Something something don't pull out something something. Thanks for the great tips as always!!

[@BossitroniuM]

Lmao

[@osric729]

Same. After "Pull characters you're willing to pull." All I hear was "Burnice! Burnice! Burnice! Burnice! Burnice! Burnice! "

[@ZaiDrizzleDrop]

HAHAHAHA!!!

[@oyah999]

Another tip is to wait til the last few days of a banner before pulling to see if future characters interest you. Also helps everyone tests out the newly released characters and see what they do. Then again waiting might be too much to ask for because of gacha brainrot.

[@LaggyWolf]

Waifu pulling > Meta pulling. Even if you are only considering what you do have and not chasing the crunched perfect lineups you are still being conscious of a meta, just not the meta. You don't truly need to care about meta at all since there isn't a competitive ranking system with tiers to determine rewards in ZZZ, it's just a matter of how easy you want to make the game or if you just enjoy building synergized teams. (I only have M0 Zhu and M1 Rina as my S ranks and S-ranking Shiyu 7's is not a problem) IMO the simple rule is to not pull for someone if you aren't interested in their design.

[@Franklin_Johanessan]

Why not both? You only need 2 single pulls to get the s rank you want

[@danielevantaggiato_TheDuck]

Here's come the problem. QingYi - Jane, obvious choice, Jane... But with Cesar and Burnice... how you determine the best waifu? Here come the team composition option 😅🤣... so Burnice it is

[@LaggyWolf]

@@danielevantaggiato_TheDuck If you are cursed to love every character (based) then you must also grind irl to match it lol

[@ZenlessZoneEnjoyer]

What makes you think I don’t want ALL the waifus?

[@di11_9]

@@danielevantaggiato_TheDuck I got qingyi over jane as i have zhu yuan i did try to grind for jane but 20 pulls short however qingqi was worth really god damn good nice character design too i like andriod stuff in games

[@deboyz1014]

Pull without care and you will never be disappointed.

[@AverageLuckGamer]

so freeing

[@Karomix3]

Did that yesterday, only 1 pull was disappointing and it was me getting my only S rank character and it was unfortunatly Koleda. But I got Seth twice, Billy, Lucy, and Soukaku once, Anby and Anton twice, Corin 3 times, so that was pretty neat, it was my first time using Pull too. ^^

[@newe1555]

This is my bro, never seen him do a 10 pull only singles

[@Garp-8]

That's the best mentality until they announce an unexpected character that you absolutely liked their design/gameplay

[@Karomix3]

@@Garp-8 Even then sometimes they might give you characters for free, given that we already get 6 free characters at the beginning (Anby, Billy, Nicole, Corin, Soukaku and Ben), and that we're getting Lucy soon too, then who knows, we might get lucky. ^^

[@Bronugget]

I'm so glad the wait is almost over. Skipped all of 1.1 to have enough poly to pull Ceasar and Burnice.

[@vitusbermundo-diva5578]

did you get them?? need update pls

[@Bronugget]

@@vitusbermundo-diva5578 Yes I did manage to get both of them

[@KetteiThe7th_]

No I’m going to just swipe my credit card

[@mitchsz]

Imagine being rich

[@WithoutException]

Nah I’d win ahh moment

[@lightnatsuki7222]

Damn get me a monthly pass 🤡

[@RobLucciXIII]

Ayyye that's also the tactic i use

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Damn it whale, didn't you listen to the start?

[@Sarazoul]

The only golden rule: pull for the characters you like the most. (Design, personality, gameplay style, etc...) Meta comes second. Because the truth is, the meta doesn't realy matter. This isn't a competitive game and a meta team is not required to clear the content. If you pull a character your not super into to make "the prefect team comp". You WILL regret it later, when an actual agent that you like is announced and you don't have any polys left. Don't pull for team efficiency. Pull for the characters you REALLY want. Building the team? That comes later. Using what ever you have at your disposal.

[@AceRezamand1]

Agreed. For the early game, as you focus on story, just pull for whoever you want. Once your at the point where all you have left todo is endgame content, use whoever you have to make teams. Make it a challenge run or smth

[@slaimuwaifu]

Finally, someone who gets that games are about *FUN*

[@AStrayNoName01]

I always pull for who I want, pulling for Meta isn’t usually worth it because the Meta will always change, but your fondness for the characters you like will never fade.

[@animatedprotootype3450]

As someone who has around 15k poly saved up but want both new characters and their weapons, i might end up changing from a low spender to a mid spender and that scares me

[@V-vision]

Stay strong. You don't need those weapons (or ya know, get them idc)

[@N3V3RLookBack]

I feel this. Currently only a Battle Pass and Monthly Subscription spender but I'm tempted to break that this patch.

[@1O1O11]

Anby is one of my favorite characters, and I got her up to M6 with Jane's banner. I also got 1 copy of Seth which I don't use, but never hurts to have another character around town to eat noodles with. So pretty much best case scenario. Now I have 20 pulls before guaranteed S but am going to sit with that for a year...

[@lagrimm9397]

"Pull for what you want to build around." In a perfect world I want to build a nice condo flat for my Rat and Biker queens to share. With me.

[@sharkle9]

Based gacha youtuber. Your videos are actually such a nice vibe

[@Just_an_urn]

Great vid as always! Even for years down the line, unless you have a team of each element type, and every type of character in said element, currently we would need a total of 25 characters to have all your bases covered. Pull to cover your bases, and after that you can go nuts!

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Thanks for the support! All 25 of them lol.

[@Just_an_urn]

@@AverageLuckGamer lol, yeah it's crazy! And people are getting scared that if they miss a character, it is going to brick their account or something. Just enjoy the game and pull who you want! It's a marathon and limited characters (wether you like them or not) are going to be good in one aspect or another. It's gana take years till we have teams to cover whatever we want (25, being Attack, anomaly, tank, support and stun for times the 5 elements.) we have a LONG way to go, so enjoy the ride and see the view, there is no need to min-max everything, you know.

[@andreynordron1302]

Oh Lycaon pun returns! Stayd true to yourself this time friend! Much appreciated! Thank you for reminding me about 50/50 and general awerness. Guys! Don't forget that missing a character is not so bad. Every time there wil be an option to get something new and cool. You just don't know it yet. Off course its not bad to support good games, so consider that. Great video as always.

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Keeping you on your toes! And thanks for the support.

[@sevadra]

Something I like to consider alongside the "Pull based on your luck" thing as a new f2p gacha player is the benefit of losing a 50/50 with the long term goal in mind of building a single primary character for every Anomaly Element for the potential future. I eventually want an S rank DPS for all 5 anomalies, and teams to be able to slot them into, and maybe an added bonus to be able to mix and match team loadouts as time goes on, to diversify playstyles and keep the game fresh. My big rule ends up revolving around that "have someone for every element" goal so thinking about my account state I have plans for both winning and losing the 50/50 instead of just feeling like I missed out/have to work for the banner to get the guarantee. As an example, Ill lay out my account progress and scenario thats been in my head: So far, without getting the 100 bonus pulls from the start of the game (I started with 8 days left on Ellen's Banner) I had hard speedran the levelling to get to pity 50/50 on limited, won and got a second S rank at 2 pity with Koleda, then use guarentee for Zhu Yuan, skipped Qingyi and pulled Jane, won that 50/50, and pulled her weapon in 30 pulls. Life is great here, but I am only filling 3/5 anomaly elements. I dont have a good Fire or Electric dps as my standard S pulls have not given me Soldier 11 nor Grace, and while I have Anton M6 I dont find him fun to play. I plan to pull Burnice as my luck has been fantastic, I dont need another support with the 3 teams I have built and so it makes sense for me to skip Caesar for now, but im also anticipating losing the 50/50 due to my insane luck, and for that I have considered plans for every standard agent long term (Nekomata, Lycaon and Koleda all give mindscape bonuses, whereas Soldier 11 is a great fallback option for fire dps, Grace I wouldnt mind horizontal building for electric dps and Rina slots in well with said eventual Electric team). Since Im not sure how later banners will develop, theres really no losing out from my pov, but I'm taking the luck i get in stride while also being meticulous, and I think this kind of critical thinking would do well. It also helps that I like every character I've pulled, so its really an all around win-win.

[@aidanjackson5084]

I certainly get that "have a DPS for every element" thought process. For example, the current banner in Star Rail has two Wind units, Feixiao & Black Swan. I currently only have two Wind units, Dan Heng & Sampo. Therefore, very tempted to pull for one or both of the Wind Mommies so I have a viable Wind DPS. Just unsure who to go for first. I'm leaning more towards Feixiao first, mainly because I have more FUAs in my account than I do DOTs

[@iDroiD-zzz]

As a veteran gacha gamer, I agree to that, but would like to indicate that as of now, losing a 50/50 is not so bad a thing, due to what you discussed (filling gaps in elemental coverage). Also, due to Hoyoverse techniques in making the game accessible, unless you mindlessly pull for characters, you'll eventually build a respectable roster that can defeat any end game with minimum effort. It's a long-term walk rather than a short-term race, and my Genshin/Star Rail accounts totally agree with that. After a year, we will all get to remember how our account looked like when we started and wonder at the many changes that happened to it.

[@natsudragneel-ir7sr]

yeah, I'm just gonna pull for S rank of any element I don't have S rank yet for now. So far I have Lycaon for ice and Caesar for Physical. 2 Element down, 3 to go. I just don't know whether to pull for Burnice or Lighter since they are both fire. Lighter is a stun type, so if we're just going by element priority it's probably better to pull Burnice since she's anomaly type. But Lighter is so cool. But Burnice is so cute. Aaaah why do both S rank have the same element!

[@sagansagan5395]

What about the supports tho? I just installed the game so im asking to know if i should do this. Im not much of a gacha player, ive tried some but ended up dropping them cause i never know what teams to build 😂 always in the dicotomy of building one strong team or one dps for each element, with versatile supports that can fit different teams (dont know if we have those here). Also while reading about combat system i read that the point is to make teams with same element characters. So should i go for one strong dps and then A supports with same element? What would you recomend me?

[@sevadra]

@@sagansagan5395 I approached this game's early life with the mentality of having a limited agent for every element so I can have coverage for every elemental weakness. Therein, I skipped pulling limited supports in favor of making the A-Ranks work, and for what its worth many of the A rank supports are still very very good options to this day. Since you are coming in at the era of Reruns on the line, you have the freedom to diversify your pulls for supports that fill certain niches, but I would overall say you might want to assess your options based on the early Standard Characters you get, as even if they all get powercrept over time, those are gonna be your heavyweights for a good while. The real answer is, Pull for whoever you like bc fun is priority, and if you like all of them or are stunted by indecision, look at the account from a bird's eye view and get the bigger picture of "what do I *need* or how could I use certain agents better?" Also sorry it took me 4 days to see this, youtube notifications moment 😅

[@richcast66]

Glad Burnice is on the 2nd banner, because Jane took almost 180 pulls from me and I need more time to build pulls

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Real.

[@outright4697]

Fr I’m skipping caesar imo she’s not good and defense characters are the worse in this entire game Jane is still broken with how much damage she does

[@flynnoflenniken7402]

Same, I was having pretty good luck up until Jane's banner, but she rinsed me for everything I had at almost full pity.

[@outright4697]

@@richcast66 update I literally just got her and grace on my first pull on the banner what my luck is crazy in this game I didn’t even want Caesar but I had 10 free pulls so I used and I got her 1st try 🤯

[@spiderbhyd3]

@@outright4697”she’s not good” boy this one aged well 💀

[@kiteofdark]

I was set on Burnice until I realized she would only be good for my already best team, Jane Doe, while I have Zhu Yuan and Ellen with no stunner except Anby. Caeser is going to make my older teams fun again.

[@AverageLuckGamer]

That's a solid way to think about it!

[@vaeiskii]

7:54 clearly really imporant lore

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Clearly.

[@CrazedKen]

0:51 ok but I want her to continue my sons of calydon team, I have piper n lucy I just want her or *Caesar King*

[@Linkophere]

Nah i went absolutely off the chain for Corin and i dont regret it. Corin Forever

[@AverageLuckGamer]

You chad.

[@kiracaos]

Good to know there are other Corin enjoyers.

[@thatsplinter]

Based 🙌

[@INeedGlitch2Win]

I kept getting her and merged her up and was glad she really grew on me. Must protect home girl with the pizza cutter!

[@Mystic_Chizu]

ngl i keep her levelled for hollow zero just for fun

[@elixer88]

Pulling for a character that you not only like the look/voice of, but also who has a playstyle that you enjoy or will greatly benefit your account is pretty key, especially if f2p/low spender. You also will want to do a fair bit of looking into the character before they play; I definitely got burned on not doing research in Genshin when Klee came out, as I didn't have the team she needed nor really enjoyed her playstyle, just pulled because I heard "She's top DPS" (which aged like milk). Genshin was my first game like this though, so it was a valuable learning experience. In HSR I played things smarter with one exception; Topaz. Really liked her and went big in on her for a f2p/low spender (E1S1) but it turns out I loved the FUA style of gameplay; now my FART team (Feixiao, Aventurine, Robin, Topaz) just wipes the floor with everything. For ZZZ, I only really picked up the game a week ago so I don't have much to talk about there. I got Nekomata as my "starting" S-Rank, but many people are saying Caesar is very very good for her, and I can see why. I also like her playstyle, so... Fingers crossed on my 50/50! Burnice I'm meh about ("Build around your account"), so I can save my polychrome during her banner to see if Yanagi may be beneficial to me; unless I lose my Caesar 50/50 to Soldier11 or something, in which case Burnice may be back on the table. inb4 "AW DANG IT!"

[@elixer88]

Caesar also just appears to fit into a LOT of roles, so having her on my new account could be very nice to have; it could let me feel less of a need to roll some other characters down the line.

[@CjDoesStuff_e]

Thanks for your approval for me pulling Burnice because hot (literally and figuratively)

[@tinyknott]

The A-rank calcs are if you only want one of the two a-ranks. Burnice's banner has 2x top tier A-ranks, so for that it becomes 50% per 10 pull + non-guarantee odds. Ofc, this assumes you have a team you want to build Nicole for (zhu yuan), but I'd say pulling for those A-ranks will be a good investment assuming you aren't planning on discarding Burnice completely.

[@alexmcfly31415]

Good ruleset, I'm gonna add 1 more: You can use two teams, so six characters at once. It's better to get 6 characters and 6 weapons than 12 characters, half of which you'll have to bench. (Or, even better: don't pull for a year, then get 1 character to mindscape 6 and use them to solo everything forever.)

[@InPulsiv]

These rules are really great advise for any gacha game. I've applied the same principles in all the games I enjoy.

[@OmniscientDream]

2:29 Holy shit what a segue. Kudos to you, sir.

[@mitchsz]

I'm legit thinking about pulling for Burnice. I have S11, Seth and Jane :D

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Seems like she could be pretty use for you!

[@heartfelt_hero]

I have all those too, so I was considering pulling burnice, also I really want the Lucy cinema that adds her buff to her chain attack cuz I already have a well built Lucy

[@mitchsz]

@@heartfelt_hero good luck for us then 🙏

[@heartfelt_hero]

@@mitchsz Thank you, and good luck to you too!

[@JunaidAnsari-my2cx]

Whats S11?

[@DoctorDozy]

I usually just pull on feeling alone, but if I'm not too sure about a particular banner, I try to figure out what value it has to me based on arbitrary percentages I made up (the higher the percentage the more valuable it is to me). Personally I believe 60% of a banner's value is the S rank unit, and the other 40% is the A rank units (20% each). If I want a particular unit, that units percentage is added to the banners value, and if not, it's excluded. If I'd be alright receiving a particular unit but don't super want them, their value would be halved, and if It's an A rank I don't want, but also don't have max constellations for, their percentage would be quartered. My cut-off for pulling is usually 70% unless I'm absolutely in love with a character. Using Caesar's banner as an example, I would value it at 65%. I want Caesar, but I already have Anton M6 & I'm not interested in Piper but she still has some value because I don't have her M6 yet. Burnice's upcoming banner would be a 70%. I'd be alright receiving Burnice because I have Jane & Seth but I'm mostly interested in Lucy & Nicole for mindscapes. This is entirely separate from other factors like upcoming banners and team comps, but it definitely helps me make decisions on specific banners, especially Caesars this time round. With Yanagi coming out and the bad A rank line up on Caesar's banner, I feel like I'd regret using my currently to try getting her now.

[@timogul]

The funny thing is, people call gacha gambling, and it is, but because you are guaranteed the character you want at 180 pulls, that itself is not a gamble. The real gamble is when you _don't_ want a specific character, but want to collect A-ranks, you're gambling that you _won't_ get the character you _don't_ want.

[@Shadenium]

Facts.

[@AVAKemicals]

Me trying to get max mindscapes and wengines for cunning hares T-T

[@t3arki113r]

Hit me square on the head. I pulled on the Genshin banner for a 4-star…at 0 pity, I got the 5-star in 1 ten pull. Gacha, the time when you get mad that you actually get a high rarity character super early.

[@sgt.verdian1945]

Who's coming here that just pulled the characters and then realised next patch or maybe 2nd patch you see the character that for you is a must pull + you're short on gacha currency

[@davidalleyn4221]

I had some rotten luck, I pulled 90 working towards Ellen, on the 90th I got Rina resetting my pity and I had to do another 90 only to be terrified when I saw the S rank appear again, but that time it was Ellen.

[@TitaoOnline]

Great video, as someone who's been playing hoyo games for some years now, this is exactly how I plan my pulls and I'm very pleased with the results.

[@rabpanz6145]

I really love your script-writing; you have a lot more fun than other creators of similar content. Also, very correct opinions, I will now disregard them to pull for Burnice

[@GundamIndonesia]

My Pull plan's at least 1 Each character limited banner but different Role. I already have Zhu Yuan (Attack), Jane Doe (Anomaly). What's Left : deff, support & Stun. We will only need 2 teams for the time being.

[@PaGi06]

I'm a F2P player and from the start i just pulled Ellen in 90 pulls for mine Mono-ice team. My second team is compose by Jane, Seth and Rina M1 but Jane cost me every polychrome that I saved, now i'm broke

[@N3V3RLookBack]

Thanks for the video. I got Jane after losing my 50/50 and pulling on the guarantee. That left me with m5 Seth so I ended up doing an extra 20 pulls to get him m6, but mostly because I was also totally okay getting m1 jane if I got super lucky (I did not get that lucky). It all worked out for me and I got seth's m6, so now I'm sitting 20 pulls in for Caesar's Banner. I'm probably gonna take a 50/50 on Caesar, especially cause I currently use Anton and he's only m2. If I lose that 50/50 I'll probably save my guarantee for Burnice because I want to build Burnice to work with Grace.

[@justmatrix3402]

Thanks for the guide 😊 I’m getting Caesar and Burnice

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Let's go!

[@dm_blinkonce3231]

Good vid, concise, made sense and narration was easy to hear/understand

[@MrNorker77]

Very helpful even 3 months later. Helped me take the plunge to get Miyabi.

[@Zeis]

I've gotten every single character within 50-80 pulls so far, except for Jane Doe. She took me ~160 pulls, finally got her yesterday. My strategy so far has been to just do pulls whenever I save up enough for a 10-pull.

[@frostribe5414]

4:22 jokes on u :P i got Jane and run her solo for all content xD but this video helped me understand more of when to pull and how much to save polychromes for charcaters that i want, 28k is a lot :') *sigh*

[@christophersteiner6596]

This was super helpful as a reminder, all the S ranks I've pulled (Ellen & Jane) have been close to if not at hard pitty lol. Honestly the thing that's been determining what banner i pulled on was the A ranks (Soukaku 6, Billy 6, Anby 6, Nicole 6, Seth 4, Ben 3)

[@ghosthost2033]

I just use the best tactic of all, gaslight myself into lowering my expectations by doing single pulls anytime I have the possibility, you can't feel disappointed if you didn't care at all to begin with and you left everything at the hands of fate

[@thegamewoods8473]

I got Qingyi M1W1 and im gunning for Burnice at least W1 for one fairly simple reason. Both Qingyi and Burnice can be used as Anchors for my teams. Qingyi is great for most if not all Crit dps units, and Burnice is gonna support any and all Anomaly dps going forward. So from now on i can simply make my two team archetypes (Crit and Disorder), and swap out the dps units based on Elemental coverage needs. And since Qingyi and Burnice do solid damage themselves, i only need to cover the last 4 elements per team as opposed to 5. Also. Theyre both hot so-

[@videoapollo4044]

After last video, definitely going to use excess pulls (I'm a Miyabi Wanter) for Caesar to pair with Nekomata and Nicole (Defense Shred, Atk Boost, Parrying). Looking forward to 1.2 overall, been needing another Defender that isn't Ben for other team comps. :)

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Nice. Good luck!

[@SwitchbackCh]

I wanted both Jane and Burnice, and while taking a leisurely walk this was my reasoning: If I got Jane now I'd have Jane but my chances for any 1.2 characters is shot for a good while If I get Burnice, not only do I have extra chromes saved from skipping Caesar, but I can also prepare for future unannounced content. What if Lighter's really good? Or if Pulchra becomes playable? Or BIG DADDY? Way more pros to wait it out than cons for me because the Calydon patch looks amazing so far.

[@AdrianGrave]

Pulchra becomes playable.. someone did data mining

[@rezorus8832]

Burnice pulled me into the game, missed all the other banners. Got Yanagi, and Burnice. Genuinely considering skipping Lighter for Miyabi. Depends on the amount of poly I can save. My genuine opinion pull to the first 50/50 on every banner, even if you don't want them. If you lose cool if you don't cool.

[@XRaiden1]

Nah you might actually be me for real I came around the ending of ceasers banner, saw burnice, and never stopped grinding till I got her. Then I grinded for yanagi(just got her like 3 hours ago) Now I don't know whether I should grind for yanagis W engine or save all of that for miyabi(the best plan I could make is if I somehow get enough polycromes required for a 50/50 with her W engine I pull but if I don't I save)

[@rezorus8832]

@@XRaiden1 I learned from Burnice that my engine luck is very bad. So I stopped as soon as I got Yanagi. I think the engine banner rates are 75/25 and I still lost got Koleda's. At least I 5 starred Lucy's and Nicole's. Since I don't have a good ice character I'm saving for Miyabi. Unless your min/maxing for Yanagi I would say save. It's around 12k for the guarantee S unless you get lucky.

[@XRaiden1]

@rezorus8832 Ok, update I'm skipping her w engine but a new problem... frikcing lighter, I have no ice units apart from soukaku, so miyabi is a must but I have no ice stunner like lycaon so I don't know whether to try my luck with what I am saving at the moment(which isn't much I'd probably still need to grind) for lighter then hope I can get miyabi or save and essentially guarantee a miyabi since new update means a good chunk of new polychromes and then just try my luck for lycaon in the regular stable banners.... At this point, I'm just hoping I get bullshit ass luck and pull lighter first try lol

[@rezorus8832]

@@XRaiden1 Yeah I'm the same. I'm only pulling on the stable when I get free tapes. I'll get Lycaon eventually. I'm going all in on Miyabi at this point, if I have enough at the end of Lighter's banner I might pull to 50/50. That way if I win cool, if I don't then Miyabi will be my next guaranteed S-rank. There's still a lot of time till then so I'm still deciding. If you want my advice. Don't waste your poly on the stable banner for Lycaon. He's not going anywhere. If you do pull Lighter first try let me know lmao.

[@rezorus8832]

@@XRaiden1 Update. I caved and pulled for Lighter. 46 pulls and won the 50/50. So now I only don't have Caeser from the faction and that's going to bother me. I just have a feeling this decision is going to come back to bite me with Miyabi.

[@luuc4sflp]

Fun fact I started playing on launch and (I think I got a Lycaon from the regular banner, then) pulled for ellen, losing the 50/50 once to lycaon and later getting Ellen on the guarantee. Later I was pulling for Qinyi just for the sake of it and got ANOTHER Lycaon. But now I had a guarantee for Caesar so now I made a piper team with her :3

[@DrunkGnu]

dude that billy clip is so damn funny wtf lmao

[@ObliviousNaga]

I have a personal rule where I don't pull on a banner when I have an m6 of an A rank in it. It just feels like a waste of poly in my mind so I usually stop pulling once a character hits m6

[@LordStrell]

I lost the 50/50 for Jean, going to just sit and see how good Cesar or Burnice are with s11 since the game clearly wants me to have her. 😢

[@DaymareTheChamp]

I love watching your videos a lot

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Thanks for the support!

[@Road_to_Dawn]

I have a guarantee saved from losing the 50/50 for Ellen (Yes, from all the way back then). Been waiting until they bring out characters that I REALLY want, and with Sons of Calydon as my favorite faction, I finally have that with Caesar and Burnice. You have no idea how excited I am for this patch lol. I feel like it was made for me! Here’s my plan: So right now, I’ve got enough polychromes for 157 pulls, so I am absolutely guaranteed to get Caesar. Now, my Piper’s still at C0, unfortunately. (She’s the only A-rank who never once dropped for me through all of my pulls on both the featured and standard banners, so I just ended up having to buy her from the shop when she became available.) So what I’m thinking is, since she’s featured alongside Caesar, I can hope to get at least a couple more Pipers before I get Caesar. And if I get Caesar early, I might go ahead and spend 20-30 more to get to get more Pipers, and I wouldn’t mind potentially walking out of that with a C1 Caesar at all. Even if it takes me all 88 pulls’ worth of pity I have before Caesar, I’ll have 69 very nice tapes leftover, so that’s 21 away from hitting Burnice’s 50/50. I haven’t bought any monochrome packages, but do spend on the monthly membership and the lower-tier battle pass, so with all of that, I imagine I’d probably at least get 100-110 pulls for Burnice, maybe? Hopefully I’m able to get her at that point, but even if I’m not, that’s okay. Caesar’s the one I want more anyway, and Burnice would just be the icing on my Calydonian cake. (Heh. Cake.) As far as team comps go, my two main teams are Piper, Nekomata, Lucy for one, and Anby, Grace, Nicole for the other. (I’m not a big fan of single-element teams; I prefer to be able to do multiple types of anomalies in a row for disorders.) Caesar could be a good one to swap in for the first team in Neko’s place, who I could then put in with Anby and Nicole for a Hares team, and she’d be able to do something with the physical anomaly that my level 60 Amillion would be casually building up. Caesar would especially be good for defense in fights where you’re not ranked on speed, but staying alive with minimal deaths. And with Burnice, she could be another good substitute for Nekomata, I suppose, to give Lucy’s fire element some extra juice, and between them and Piper, they’d be pulling out disorders left and right.

[@debilita9999]

Escelent video. Especially last rule. I did math and it seems I lost some 30 pulls which would have been what I needed to get Jane. Thanks. Ill keep it in mind in the future. But hey on the bright side now I have guarantee for Burncie or Yanagi :3

[@LusumiMusic]

"pulling characters u wanna build around" but what about pulling a character only because they might work decently with a character u rlllly like even if u don't care about the character itself and would totaly bench them the moment some other character turns out to work better with them? :b

[@tntxpl0der409]

I'm just gonna say I got Alton full mindscape in less than 200 pulls. 4th day of having the game

[@JTCF]

I've proudly skipped Jane, although I really wanted Seth in my party (would allow for so many more interesting builds). And now I'm skipping Caesar as I just don't feel like getting her. Although I do have a build in mind that could have great use of her skills. And I am looking forward to Burnice (With Piper and Lucy it could be a cool Chaos build) and Lighter (cuz he's cool). I've pulled a couple 10s for the W-engine of Caesar, but with an intent to get signature engines for Piper and Anton. Got both! I've been struggling to get Qingyi, I really wanted her (waifu pulling), but she also turned out to be a great addition to the roster, as she is very good at stunning and can boost the entire team's damage output. It is interesting to build around her. I've got Zhu Yuan because of looks, but she turned out to be a versatile damage dealer, especially in Hollow Zero where her eidos increases the amount of charges you can use. Pulled for waifu, got a fighter. Awesome.

[@allachor]

Single pulling around 70 to preserve pulls doesn't really make sense tbh, considering if you hit the S-Rank in a 10 pull it still builds pity for any rolls after the S.

[@AverageLuckGamer]

I suppose I should have clarified, it depends on the value of the banner for you, i.e. if you want the A ranks etc.

[@WithoutException]

Pull singles so your limited banner doesn’t constantly say “89 pulls left till next S rank” and ends on a nice even 90

[@deltahyperbolic]

I think single pulling around 70 can prevent you from accidentally getting a double 5 star when you don't want it. In a way, it's always optimal to single pull if you are not interested in dupes, but single pulling around 70 can get most of the effect without wasting too much time.

[@allachor]

@@deltahyperbolic true but even if i don't want a dupe of a 5 star on that particular banner i'm certainly not going to complain about 5 or so wishes for another copy of a limited character.

[@negative2positve380]

​@@deltahyperbolici think the point is some people dont like the risk of getting M1 over saving the pulls for a new character, although i disagree

[@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero]

Solid tips. Keep em coming

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Thanks, will do!

[@Vipera217]

"no one is ever going to complain they got an S rank character by accident" reminds me of the time when i got Childe while trying to snipe for Thoma and never got Eula for almost 2 years because i lost 50-50 and ran out of pulls

[@KrymsonVerse]

I'm a bit torn on the 1.2 banners. Caesar looks like she'd be a blast to play, she'll fit into most teams, but doesn't seem tailor-made for any existing (as of 1.2) team. Burnice is super-cute, but doesn't look quite as fun to play. She does, however, fit like a glove into a team with my built Jane and Seth/Lucy.

[@AverageLuckGamer]

I'm feeling very similar to you right now bud.

[@LemonRush7777]

Caesar is a safe bet for the future if Mihoyo ramps up too much the difficulty thanks to her shields.

[@hardtobearit]

​@AverageLuckGamer my issue is the a ranks on both. I'm a mainly f2p player with the exception of getting the 30 day card and season pass twice. And i have every limited character and alot of minds cape 6s on the current A ranks. We need more a ranks honestly

[@CyrilCommando]

Also consider the fact that her W Engine is potentially the _only_ Impact Defense engine, which is what she wants. Unless they distribute a free weapon there is no decent F2P alternative.

[@katabwa2172]

​@@hardtobearitthen you are a dolphin not an F2P my friend. Just like me.

[@friesland24]

Well, I lost my 50/50 to Lycaon and Subscribe but I continued to pull on the banner get this, only for M6 Anby. I wouldn't mind getting Jane though. I got M6 Anby but no Jane. I'm not mad or sad since I have enough to possibly get Burnice now, yippie :D

[@itzmazenn8600]

i gotta gif every sniffing bangboo meme u make, please keep making them 😂🙏

[@AverageLuckGamer]

You got it!

[@frich2k]

Another useful vid! :D Unfortunately I failed rule 3 with this banner, still tried to go for mindcapes for Anby and Seth after pulling Jane, and around 45 pulls in, Jane came for the second time ^^' Feels bad, if you think about it, it could have been Caesar at that 45th pull on the next banner, so I missed a full S character for pulling for A rank copys. Never doing that again, learned my lesson!

[@ChillsCat]

I got lucky enough to get DOUBLE Jane very early, but i didn't had Seth, so i was going for him and my pity ended up at 44. So with that pity i took the risk on Jane banner again with the pollys that i had left, just to see if i could M2 her or lose the 50/50 and guarantee the next character banner. I ended up getting her M2, so she's more busted now as my main physical dps. Since i'm not interested in pulling on Caesar banner, that decision was very safe for me, now i will save everything for a future banner.

[@the_uns33n]

I can use my guarantee for Jane (I lost my 50/50), but Caesar and burnice both look like fun. I can probably get 2/3 as I have like 18k poly now.

[@MeowVelous_Wyatt]

2:50 I wanted Seth and got an early rina at 40 so I thought “oh I can just keep pulling for Seth’s” I got Seth in the next 10 pull along with Jane… and I must say BEST ACCIDENTAL PULL EVER JANE IS SO AMAZING Then yesterday I got ceaser (the 5* I really wanted) at 7-8 pity Now im saving for lighter because husbando

[@Violet-gi5dr]

Miyabi not having a release date is by far one of the reasons I am contemplating between getting new characters or saving for her its really tough considering 50/50s and gurantes are hard to come by and its a gacha game its like a roullette where you run out of polychrome in a blink of an eye.

[@flynnoflenniken7402]

Yeah, did a coinflip for Caesar because I kinda wanted the comfort blanket shield, and my Qingyi is in high demand for all of my teams, so I also wanted a character who could relieve the burden on her somewhat. I lost the coinflip, so I'm going for Burnice instead. Caesar looks great and all, and I'd be happy to have her, but I don't feel "the spark" with her as a waifu, and I didn't really care for her gameplay in her story trial versions. I was only interested for meta reasons really, and I didn't have any specific characters in mind she would've enabled. I had a lot of fun with Burnice in her trial version, and I'm more interested in her as a character, and I have specific teams in mind with other characters I like a lot (Grace and Rina) that I'd like to try her in, so it's the more sensible choice for me. I already S cleared everything in Shiyu Defense, even all of Disputed and Ambush, so I don't actually need Caesar for anything. Just would've made some content a bit less of a headache to clear.

[@edumanz5044]

Instructions unclear: pull every character you like and gamble

[@chillygoose_]

I have been saving for the character at the end of Lycaon's quest and I don't even know if he'll be real. I'm viewing the sons of calydon as a training arc where my training is saving my polychromes and hoping XD

[@azier67]

What I'd give to have an A-Rank equivalent of the Bangboo Focus system on the Standard Banner. 'cause seeing Anby pop up 10 times in a row even outside the Limited Banner is a tad annoying. Silver lining...I've almost collected enough for Soldier 11's W-Engine, so...small victories.

[@AblazeApax]

Didn't know the after 70 pulls your chances get higher. Thanks for the advice!

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Happy to help!

[@acuilnos]

1:02 Seth would make sense if you were running Burnice with Jane but for a potential S11 team I'd say Lucy would make more sense in terms of team synergy.

[@spicypineapple4155]

Thanks for the video！

[@dawndarklight44]

ZZZ is both the most F2P friendly Hoyo Game so far and the one that convinced me to actually spend money.

[@RaidenShogun-nv2ke]

I wish this video popped up on my feed before I pulled on Zhu yuan's weapon banner for nicole and ben's engines😭. Thanks for the video king👑

[@Antiv1rus165]

miyabi waiting room

[@m_j_ox]

Lighter mentioned!

[@rayiskoala]

Your Jane Doe/Seth example actually kinda happened to me. I pulled her twice before I got Seth.

[@atheerLS]

I'm f2p as well . Your videos are very helpful to me cuz i want to build a great meta team in order to make my account very good. So be sure to tell us F2P people when a character is meta and a must pull.❤

[@Dunshadow23]

I know that I will be stockpiling Polychrome after Burnice, None of what they have been teasing going forward hold my attention. so unless they announce another Ether character to even out my Ether team in the near future I can build a proper Bandit Blender (Jane, Ceasar, Burnice. Just got the Overlord, just need the Burn!)

[@dalhaval283]

i pulled 10 for seth, coz i love trust events and it gives polys, thankfully got him

[@shonkale8541]

I can confirm 3:28 chart as true as I didn’t get a single Seth in 70 pulls on the Jane banner😢

[@AverageLuckGamer]

Oof, that stings, sorry bud.

[@pezgomez]

That's awful but the chart isn't accurate. Probability to first specific A rank by attempt go as follows 1, 25 2, 56.25 3, 70.31 4, 81.64 5, 87.99 .... I'm not sure what the 3:28 chart is showing. Using attempt 2 as an example you have 25% chance of winning attempt 1, then if you miss a1 with on banner (25% chance) then attempt 2 has 25% chance, if you miss a1 with off banner (50% chance) then attempt 2 has a 50% chance (pity on banner). So total chance of at least 1 by attempt 2 is 0.25+0.25×0.25+0.5×0.5=56.25% Fix my math please

[@proudguardofwhiterun5770]

I will listen to this advice after I get Burnice. I have 0 idea what I am doing with her, but GAH DAM

[@pandan__]

The A rank odds should be higher because of the guarantee. Every time we pull an off banner A rank, the next will be either of the rate up A rank, meaning it would be 50 50 chance to get the desired A rank after getting an off banner. So it wouldn’t be a flat 25% chance every attempt, it would probably be more accurate if you use the average chance instead.

[@sRtAoIrNm]

A mistake I made recently was going hard for Jane’s weapon since I got super lucky and pulled her very quickly on her banner. I went almost to pity and got Nekomata’s weapon instead, forgetting that other characters’ weapons could eat the pity. 😢

[@alejandrocortinas4805]

As someone who has all 4 belobog characters yet didint go for their specific bangboo I feel dumb but I did eventually get Lycaon who works with the bangboo I did get that being butlerboo

[@KenshiKaz]

90 percent of the time I was watching Jane gameplay and regret skipping her 💀

[@Azteck9]

Im just tryna get 3 good characters for each team. Elec is complete, but I still need Koleda/Burnice, Lycaon, Caesar, and whoever the new Ether character will be, and after that, Im done summoning for good. I think team completion and saying screw meta and powercreep is most important. Genshin taught me, I dont need every character and every weapon. And once repeat character element weapons started showing up I was like yeah, its time to quit summoning.

[@crocs_n_socks]

What really sucks is that eventually a new absolute knockout of a waifu is gonna come out and you'll desperately want that too.

[@GunSlingər76]

True

[@GunSlingər76]

I always get unlucky with my pulls 😭

[@orkheus]

I did exactly what you described with Seth, i mean, i got Jane really early 30 pulls So i did 3200 more into the Kittyboy so he would get his c4

[@toupuon698]

4:16 that's EXACTLY what happened to me lolll I got Jane in just 20 pulls, spend the rest 60 pulls just to get Seth lol and honestly it broke me. Now I'm at 32 pity and hopefully I can bring home Caesar lol

[@AydynRC]

i understand why some people would want to do singles after 70 but i personally prefer doing 10 pulls for the satisfaction of getting 2 s ranks at once. i've played hsr since launch and never got one but at the start of zzz i got double ellen and she is still my most used character but i live off that high now hopium-ing myself into believing it will happen again if i keep doing 10 pulls.

[@Noir-mh3es]

in games like zzz that just starting, its really best to save to those worth for the team you want to build

[@Noir-mh3es]

but damn hoyo, i just want it all. an agent that blocks all attack!?? and an agent that burn all attacks

[@Noir-mh3es]

for a player like me, that play for free can i just skip their w engines and mindscape

[@Evokai6419]

I ended up getting Neko as an S and sort of build around that with Piper and Lucy cause they have some neat synergies, I would have been happier with Caeser though.

[@XiaZ]

Pull on every limited banner you don't currently have the character and eventually you will end up with an account with all the limited banner character, assuming the time limit is infinite and the character introduced is finite.

[@papacharlie-niner148]

Uh, there's the matter of finite money as well.

[@XiaZ]

@@papacharlie-niner148 The pulling currency can be farmed, 60 a day for F2P, not including the event and quest.

[@gamblerc8602]

Only need 1 rule, i like you and i want you. I know i will pull ceasar from the trailer where they show all the current faction in action