5 Speedrunners Who Claimed Records Without Proof

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Kreege what's wrong with plugging sponsors

[@Kreege]

Nothing but many youtubers do it in such an intrusive way that it takes you out of the flow of the video.

[@23bobjr]

thats because nobody will sponser him

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No, it's 25 minutes and 59 seconds

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[@maximaldinotrap]

"Legend, a word that can be overused" Karl Jobst: HELLO YOU ABSOLUTE LEGENDS!

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IKR!!! xD

[@JBBrickman]

Bruh I was about to comment this xD

[@Iliek]

Hello you absolute degenerate race mixers

[@maximaldinotrap]

@@Iliek Bruh, what the fuck?

[@Duskaria]

meh ... old time I've never posted Dam Agent 50

[@Duskaria]

RWhiteGoose Thanks! Now let me just enter my own score into the database here ...

[@ITSMRFOXY]

Any coffe stains on the photo?

[@drownsinkoolaid4203]

@@ITSMRFOXY Ehh... I went to clean the coffee stain off in Photoshop and accidentally knocked the time down to half, whoopsy!

[@ITSMRFOXY]

@@drownsinkoolaid4203 o o p s y d o o p s y

[@supercool1312]

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[@seagull_overlord3810]

"Legend is often overused" Karl Jobst: sweating profusely

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

"My friends, you are absolute legends"

[@gooseguy9148]

Why you copy?

[@Iliek]

He should be sweating, especially now that his mixed race son is gaining self awareness and realizing what his parents have done to him.

[@chambeet]

@@Iliek Seriously? Come on, man.

[@danielwang7793]

@@chambeet Just a dumb troll.

[@gladJonas]

LEGEND

[@dylanleitch665]

Glade Johnson hello 👋

[@gladJonas]

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[@GoogleUsedToLetThisNameBeLong]

Don't you mean..... *ZENITH LEGEND?!?!* The right hand man of none other than Cowen Hames! *S T A Y T R U E*

[@dylanleitch665]

swooned

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Hey, pal.

[@loansharkjoe6687]

huh? the first word in this video is "Legend" i played the video and shouted out "my friends" and thought it would sinc up like how it always does.

[@thenightjackal]

Loan Shark? I did not expect to find you here- GL on your Saw and RE runs!

[@PotatoToon]

Billy Mitchell saw me doing 1:38 on 120 stars and Todd Rodgers aceepted the run on the leaderboard so it's true!

[@karljobst]

Goose's vids are the most hype shit on the internet.

[@dylanleitch665]

Karl gg tbh

[@OmegaVideoGameGod]

@Karl it's insane how amazing how many different speed runs there are, the possibilities are beyond infinite! ~ Travis/Yuri Soren/Howlinglonewolf.

[@jamitiljander]

@@dylanleitch665 good game to be honest?

[@theintcarl8393]

(insert tod rogers joke)

[@karljobst]

TheIntCarl Todd Rogers is the set up and the punchline.

[@handsomebrick]

human element, second gear, etc.

[@piotrj333]

Well that honestly should qualify since record he got was by "referee" not by actual proof.

[@ITSMRFOXY]

*_2ND GEAR INTENSIFIES_* yup,repeated joke...

[@AuroraDashPteriforever]

The currently accepted WR for Caveblazers any% is 14:48 by Butters Stotch, which not only has no video but was also achieved less than 3 hours after I posted my WR of 15:45. It's /unbelievably/ sketchy.

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

Dude literally named after a South Park character lol, was he at least established?

[@Bollibompa]

+Aurora Dash Where was this run "accepted"? Your community is miniscule and probably consist of ~30 people.

[@AuroraDashPteriforever]

Yeah, he was established. It's "accepted" in the Steam discussions for the game. It's way less than 30, there is not much of a community, the number of people who've done serious speedruns of it is probably still in the single digits. In any case, it doesn't really matter. I've stopped playing it since then, and basically nobody cared to begin with.

[@Bollibompa]

@@AuroraDashPteriforever Small communities will try to trust eachother and dishonest people will draw whatever benefits they can from this. Just as with allowing emulated Yoshi's Story will let more people join the community the trust will be taken advantage of by shady individuals. Have you tried to say something about it?

[@AuroraDashPteriforever]

I never did, actually. I should have, though.

[@xXscreamingkoalaXx]

"A world record without a record is just a world." 5head.

[@Vexidus]

Your production quality keeps getting better and better! Really great job, very entertaining!

[@Yoshistar95]

Alex Penev also claimed a bunch of records of which there's no proof of it, but as far I can see from all the records I've checked, they're not too insane. For instance, he still holds the WR in A Link Between Worlds' Rupee Rush in both worlds, which got insane amount of RNG involved. I'm only 18 rupees away from matching his record, but it takes a nearly perfect RNG from the fountain to even get that 453 or higher (435 is the highest proven score by me) And according to the birthday thread at the mario kart forums, he's pretty old. Not sure if he's truly that old or is even still alive, but I'd appreciate if people can research about the history of his activity over the years.

[@user-ux2kk5vp7m]

Alex Penev is a Mario Kart 64 and Double Dash runner who’s well known and liked in the community and is actually the owner of mariokart64.com which is the hub for Mario kart time trials

[@drowningin]

I hold the world record for the most current #1 world records in speeding. I got mario in 2mins flat. I got battletoads in 10mins, I got OoT no glitch in 30 seconds. The list goes on but it just starts to sound like bragging. And oh I beat tod Rogers faked dragster score. Who am I? Just a guy you should trust on the internet. I'm not in it for the fame, it's all about the bragging

[@Harrycuff91]

RWhitegoose I really feel like your gonna be one of the huge youtubers that I’m the future I’m gonna be bragging that I knew about u when u had fifty thousand subs Love your stuff man seriously I’ve listened to every speed lore dozens of times not including the times I leave your stuff on when I’m sleeping you have a great voice for that btw I can either pay attention and love it or have u in the back round and fall asleep to your voice lol love the effort you put in man hope u know how much the community appreciates u 🎂🤗

[@Chimpmanboom]

harry cuff same

[@Harrycuff91]

First time having a KZbin like my comment . Is it weird to be this excited lol glad you know how much I like your vids goose

[@ZaneMcFate]

I like this. Unbiased journalism at its best, leaves the evidence there to be considered, rather than hinting at what the viewer's conclusion should be.

[@harold105]

I just realised how sick that thumbnail is. GJ Goose.

[@concrete_enema]

That thumbnail is on point

[@Reigndolph]

About to go Sherlock Holmes in this bitch.

[@darkesttimeline7026]

Hey goose I just wanted to say i'm not a big speedrunner myself, but your videos have really brought me into this community and the videos are great!

[@kevinoconnor4582]

RWingGoose is my favorite historian

[@gohansbattlecorner3775]

Fav speedrunning cheat?

[@tmon3y777]

Matt Turk. Punch Out LEGEND!!! Held every Punch Out record without video proof, It's believed all his records were 100% legit. He wrote many detailed strategies on just about every fight in the game and they all hold up as legit ways to get these times on the fights.

[@ArchiveAndy]

Your videos are honestly a true gift. You haven't ceased to produce interesting content. Keep it up

[@RUSH_]

26 minutes of delicious speedrun content

[@dylanleitch665]

I hope you understand your importance and how much you entertain and inform people. Truly, Amazing.

[@svnhddbst8968]

1:00 so.... twingalaxies in a nutshell? edit: records without proof? literally the entirety of the "old guard" of twin galaxies.

[@followthesnailtrails5495]

I've been telling you 15 times about all my Golden Eye claimed WRs, like under 50 seconds on Dam. But you don't believe me do you? I have to get this expensive equipment first? Ryan, all joking aside, you're a legend bro. Keep it up, love these.

[@oldert.623]

Your content just keeps getting better. Keep bringing the heat.

[@nathanieldonley5502]

Truly love your vids, Goose. You’re one of the few YT’ers I get truly excited to see new content from, always great

[@imperfectclark4095]

Fun fact: I believe Berube got 0:53. Just not enough motive for him to 'Shark for it imho

[@mattsauvageau8722]

I don't speedrun games, rather I engage in completion and power gaming, particularly in RPGs, with my goal being to play, complete and concept prove as many optimized endgame strategies in as many RPGs as I can, ambitiously all of them. I've been working on this for about ten years, and as I work on my own goals, I love seeing the passion players and content creators like this channel put into their own fields, and am always reminded of how good it feels to be passionate about what we do as gamers. Subscribed Mr Goose

[@Jaggybabs]

I always wondered what the R in RWhiteGoose meant had no idea R White was your name

[@nicosmind3]

Our white goose ;)

[@imperfectclark4095]

rwhitegoose, Clark here -- just wanted to confirm that your account of my Berube stance is accurate! I really appreciate the journalistic fidelity mate. That Berube "flame war" thread created a lot of misunderstanding, the most upsetting of which was that my assertion of any opinion = political "power play". As you clarified, it was just my would-be vote. If a claim is under scrutiny and proof policy (nor protocol for resolution) isn't clear, I believe the input of active/skilled runners is most valuable. Moot point though; counsel system works.

[@18booma]

You do amazing videos man, but it was hilarious hearing you trying to pronounce the names in the SZ segment. I'm not Dutch, but I speak Afrikaans which has a very similar pronunciation. It's entertaining hearing you butcher the names, so not really a bad thing. Other than that, keep up the good work. Great research and always interesting to watch :)

[@sandra3269]

Captivating stuff, once again. You truly are a storyteller of remarkable talent. ;3

[@N64EverProject]

Love the way he pronounced Dutch names. 10/10 Kappa But well made video @RWhiteGoose Hope to see more of this in the future!

[@JudgmentSigma]

AWWW I was about to post that kind of comment, dammit! XD

[@N64EverProject]

My name he actually did pronounce correctly. but Zwoarties or Doivanbodem cracked me up XD

[@JudgmentSigma]

omg yeah he did yo! 0_0

[@SpaceLordLono]

I find speed run culture so interesting... because there is that part of me that likes "Who gives a shit? Who cares how quickly you can beat a game?" and then you see the level of passion these players have for it... that they get crazy down to the very science of it nailing everything frame perfect right... On that I can appreciate, the method of it. It almost makes me wanna get into it, but that's a helluva lot of dedication.

[@bigmclargehuge8219]

I didn’t know who you are, but your voice is good, your content is interesting, and I’m super glad KZbin’s algorithms recommended this to me!

[@Ricemang7]

I really like the editing on this one goose! I can tell your getting alot better at editing! Love your vids like always bro.

[@lornenix2243]

Another great video Ryan!!! Love it. You could totally make videos beyond just Nintendo and speed-running content.

[@Phoenixcaptain46]

I mean, this video could just be about Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchel sadly. Another fantastic video. You may have the best videos about speedrunning!

[@shiny5053]

XiaDun billy Mitchel doesn't count because he never had a speedrun record and he technically had proof, just fake proof

[@Raine_E_Daze]

Goose always has interesting stories to tell about speedrunning, this is why I became a subscriber, his content is amazing and always puts me to sleep with his buttery smooth voice

[@pwkillen]

Nice video. Cool effects, good editing. Quality of your vids is going up. Waiting for more.

[@irelicym]

Did that final dude ever come back and show his “unique strat” on Aztec - Golden Eye?

[@darrenhughes8454]

I beat resident evil 4 on pro in 35 minutes but no one was there

[@PersonOnEarth]

Where's the EVIDENCE bro. We need the EVIDENCE!

[@jypsridic]

They should have a section for 'claims of good reputation' for these cases. Not part of the leaderboards but still acknowledged and easy to remove if that person's reputation gets revised.

[@TheGreatDanish]

Honestly, for all the work Kent did for yall, he should have been Honerary #1, even if he never actually ran a game. It takes a lot of work to update old sites like that, so like you said, thats a good legacy to have. Building a community with his site.

[@rjc276]

TheMightyBiscuit that’s reasonable however he didn’t create the site; it was started by Iacopo Sorce with collaboration from Rene Elsaesser. Kent took over its admin in about 2001 from memory. He was always a really nice guy online, and put in plenty of work before handing it to Nicholas Harvey I believe. I agree with Goose that that’s the positive part of his legacy but it also doesn’t explain the bogus 1080 times (there were multiple).

[@Fluctuatingmiasma]

I'm at work but i had to jump on here to give this truly remarkable upload a like and comment!

[@MSaint]

Ryan talking about Perfect Dark. This is enough to make me happy.

[@Bradbradhehe]

my fri-LEGEND

[@jarethosborne4910]

What's up ? I found your speedlore episodes very entertaining and I'm very impressed with your knowledge about the history of the elite and goldeneye speed running in general, you obviously have a passion for the subject. I was just looking at the elite rankings page and I would like to see a series where you go through the top ranked players and do a sort of profile piece/history of the players as nearly every single person seems to have a unique personality and interesting backstory. Such a fascinating community full of huge characters. Maybe you could even Skype call / interview the ones you know personally. Ask Wouter about being surpassed as top dog. Ask everyone if they remember the infamous streets 1:12 MRRL run !?! I'd love to see a Karl Jobst profile, an Illu retrospective, stories on Clemens speed bullying, a Steven zwarties interview about the Aztec controversy. Please let me know if you see this comment, and it is something you could/would want to make. Due to your passion on the subject I believe you'd be the best man for the job ! Anyways cheers for the multiple hours of entertainment so far ! Let mrhirule gamers martyrdom not be in vein ! Cheers. J

[@tenacious645]

That fucking thumbnail 😂😂 Goose for president of speedrunning!...for real, I love when uploads are this close together. Keep it up Mr. White

[@Harrycuff91]

I liked just for the hat and intro lol your fucking hilarious dude I’m so glad I subbed last year lol

[@Harrycuff91]

First time having a KZbin like my comment lol is it weird that I’m this excited Lol

[@kyleholmes7459]

Thank you for uploading! I always really enjoy your content and appreciate the work you put into it. Stay true.

[@Rocky712_]

It makes me happy how he starts the video beginning text with the ancient ranelle theme from Zelda Skyward Sword....it fits so well.

[@jamitiljander]

meh, old time never posted... cold reception 0:00

[@MrRobeva]

You got that bird rotation animation all over the place. .

[@SPCmuncie]

12:16 Country - Indiana Country - New York Country - Iowa Country - Texas Country - *_USA_* Yep, all of the above are totally not a part of the USA. Gee, Indiana sure is my favorite country!

[@dogsoap]

I turned off uBlock Origin as I go through all of your YT videos -- thank you for uploading quality content.

[@idklol4197]

That was the greatest pronunciation of the word legend that I've ever heard

[@ImVeryBrad]

Love the videos dude. Only been following speed running for a few years

[@taufiqutomo]

I once did a 1:11.7 WR on Blizzard Passage on Nokia Rally 3D, clutching a glitch that allows you to start the race about 0.8 seconds before "Go". Over many hours of play, I only saw this happened once. Playing on an old Nokia phone, however, video proof was not available.

[@StriderGW2]

"A world record without record is just a world" Truly beautiful words

[@gasasmk]

I believe SZ is legit. Coming from the Super Mario Kart community, where "live proof" is one of the strongest ones you can get, I can say that him being validated by, Wessels, MJ and KVD gives him a lot of credit. I don't get why he would lie after being so successful and proving his worth to numerous different people and communities. Also, if I'm going to lie it won't be about a "25 untied PR on a very grindy game such as GE. ps.: Goose, your videos are amazing. Keep them rolling.

[@firstnamelastname8684]

What to comes to mind when I think of (most likely) legit runs. Is manocheese. A legend in the dk64 community. He took the record for any% down to 45 minutes. But only once did he submit proof. He did a similar thing with oot back in the early days of bottle adventure.

[@Minib34ts]

I have a very vivid memory of my older step brother telling me to finish Devil May Cry on the Playstation 2 as fast as I could when I was about nine. I remember getting a sub 50 time without any sort of genuine strategy in terms of hitting skips or using holy waters. Only By hitting red orb pockets and optimizing my pathing, not that I knew what any of that stuff was back then.

[@phillip6872]

@rwhitegoose based on limited video that I saw here. The end time on Crystal lake was 1.02.40. if it increments it's times in .03 seconds then by extension the 1.02.60 he says is the actual possible time would be incorrect... Just my observation

[@phillip6872]

And the 1.02.64 would actually be possible.

[@phillip6872]

I'm not defending Kent Im like a lot of people. He stayed so far down the list that I find him irrelevant mostly but maybe the guy that commented on the dead thread has beef with Kent?

[@rjc276]

1’02”64 is impossible. You can only get a “63 or “66. It’s got to do with how many FPS the game runs at and how the in game timer increments once per frame and therefore the counter is basically hardcoded.

[@balsalmicvinegar1259]

Mr. Goose, i love your vids, I mean, how could you NOT? I love your commentaries, because your voice sounds nice, and also, you put it in a way no one else does. You are my favorite Speedrunner, just because of the sheer charisma that you give off. Looking forward to the next Speedlore!

[@balsalmicvinegar1259]

BTW like and bell smash

[@altrogeruvah]

Definitely waiting for that Zwartjes follow-up!

[@sumerhays]

why do you have to stack game sharks to get them to turn on?? just curious. on an unrelated note, i recently tried stacking game genies for the genesis to try and input more codes, but it would just reset after entering in codes

[@thecodeson99]

Very interesting stuff. You wouldnt really expect the guy that creates a leaderboards website to falsify his own records.

[@OmegaVideoGameGod]

@RWhiteGoose Once again thanks for making these videos. :D ~ Travis/Yuri Soren/HowlingLoneWolf.

[@BowieProYT]

Akki now as the 16 star world record.

[@jinjunmei]

I bought myself a bag of chips on my way home from work today, knowing that the first thing I was going to do was sit down and watch the new Goose video. Also, "Sour Cream n' Bacon" chips by Ruffles is pretty good.

[@Benobot99]

*sees a Goose video uploaded 29 minutes ago, watches immediately instead of eating breakfast* :)

[@PadChennington]

ahhh...the perfect Sunday listen as always

[@conspiraciesarejustgreatst2059]

What's with the subliminal messages in your videos? The white goose that's spun around slowly during your clips? I love it btw dude...cool name and sick logo

[@uknownada]

These listings should simply be listing recorded runs, not just the runs themselves. Anybody can claim they made a run. Someone once mentioned at a recent-ish GDQ that someone got WR on Link to the Past during practice. That is absolutely plausible, but since it wasn't recorded, it doesn't deserve to be listed. All of these runs could be true, but that shouldn't matter if they weren't recorded.

[@bartonez123]

Aside from Kent, I do believe the rest of them. I really find it odd when people call Zwartjes the "Todd Rogers of N64" because even though his times did seem a bit crazy at the time, all of them got beaten by similar tricks later on. If he were truly the Todd Rogers of N64, his times would still be unbeatable to this day.

[@GoogleUsedToLetThisNameBeLong]

LEGEND? Don't you mean..... ZENITH LEGEND?!?! The right hand man of none other than Cowen Hames! S T A Y T R U E

[@FoxFireImr]

Say Goose, never fear that you run out of material? Just wondering as you keep putting out these interesting videos about a niche subject.

[@rickyhill2886]

THE FINAL FANTASY 7 AERITH DEATH SKIP. 13 years of my life I thought it was possible. My only evidence was the one weird kid at my afterschool program who was obsessed as myself. He said he saw on some obscure forum that something similar was possible and there was function in the game code that could make it viable. Everything I've ever seen was unsubstantiated or proof it's impossible. 13 years later here we are

[@theeRetroRhino]

This video is LEGEND! Enjoy your content

[@samthedigital]

It's a shame that outside of the melee target test community NeroY isn't that well known. I don't think he ever showed video proof, but he did detail some strategies he used which were completely different to what other people were doing. I wonder what happened to him.

[@Jacktrack7]

"Legend, a word that can often be overused in speedrunning" Karl Jobst: "Listen here you little shit..."

[@micahqgecko]

I think some of these older records that don’t have as much proof should stand as long as they have been beaten or matched, they are not impossible to obtain, and there’s some proof that the runner is plausibly competent enough to have gotten said time. Nowadays, we should continue to require video proof, but it’s kind of hard to suggest all these older records need to have been recorded due to the state of technology. The only other thing I could think of is making a pre-2005 ranking and putting all those records there, I don’t know.

[@doggo7078]

In Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics, 2010 Ds, there was a runner who got a lot of good records. Some of them were incredible, but other were excepcional. Since there was no traidition of recording records back then, all we have are his submissions to the online DS leaderboards (not even the WFC leaderboard, but another one that the community created aftwerwards). Not even his name is known, the time displayed was made by a "Deleted Username" Recently we have TASed some of the events, and one of his records is, I kid you not, 1 milisecond away from the theoretically perfect time. It really makes you wonder whether he was a TASer just faking his scores, but then again, other records of his were not so hardcore, so who knows.

[@akrimmer86]

Excellent video as always Goose

[@MarvelousPhilly]

That's nothing. I did a speedrun of SM64 16 stars in 12:56.35. And no I didn't record it, so what! I dropped the controller and Mario still jumped, but that doesn't matter. I still did it. Seriously though, these videos are gold. Thanks, Goose.

[@andrearovenski]

Good video, ty for the shout out

[@mattoconnell9291]

Love yew

[@planescaped]

Yeah... that 1'58"14 on Steven's proof video has a very noticeable gap between the " and the 1 But then again... all the spaces between the " and a 1 are larger in the example pictures... so who knows.

[@Kresh42]

14:50 Is that the whistle noise from Monopoly on the SNES?

[@saval93]

What is the song at that starts at 10:44? I have heard it before but don't know where from.

[@pieman19]

Jolly Roger Bay from Super Mario 64

[@Leanderbro]

When Goose says he's going to dig into the deep lore to find out more about Steven Zwartjes among other things. All i can do is picture him wielding a whip and wearing a leather hat. Goose to me is an archaeologist, but for speedrunning.

[@nicolox3887]

My friend, your contents are always amazing

[@nathanpinson516]

Personally I believe that Berube's Dam record was legitimate, but it should not have gone on the leaderboard for lack of video evidence.

[@beetlebum007]

So Zwartjes claimed records that indeed are possible and even beaten?! But just because it took (a few) years people don't believe him?! That is a strange conclusion imo. The fact that he doesn't have enough video proof is enough to not have the records in the listings, true. But I do believe he shouldn't be shamed as all he claimed was indeed proven possible multiple times by different players..

[@LamarCardinalChaos]

What's the music in the beginning? Familiar but can't place it.

[@Shane-it8yj]

Lanayru Desert - The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

[@Zazzlebips]

You only have 92k subscribers??? That's a high number but I expected you to have over 300k because of your video quality

[@theLavenderFlock]

Surprised there's no mention of the guy who still claims he has the record to Dragster, despite TAS runners not being able to replicate his unreachable time

[@J_man-de5sw]

eh, i was bored just posting this now Dam Agent 10