5 Steps to Improve VR Performance | Microsoft Flight Simulator | Windows Mixed Reality

[@SimHangerFS]

Hey all, catch my updated settings here kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4XPoImGrM2Yaac

[@citizenblue]

I have a 2080 super. How significant was the visual improvement once you went to 30 series? Im pretty pleased with my performance, so unless improvement is drastic i will keep my current GPU

[@SimHangerFS]

@@citizenblue The visual improvement was nominal, but the stutters were less allowing me to turn up the settings.

[@citizenblue]

@@SimHangerFS thank you for the reply! I can wait for prices to drop then. I've got the stuttering down, and was able to put a few settings to ultra once sim update 5 was released. I fly low and slow VFR around my hometown mostly, and can't get enough!

[@lautarogatti]

Your help even though some parts are outdated, saved me! Thanks

[@robertostopnicki4987]

Mark. You don’t cease to amaze me. I recently purchased an HP G2. While it works OK in X-Plane I had several disappointing “What did I get myself into?” moments, after trying to set it up for MSFS. But, with a coffee next to me, this video on my iPad and my PC in front of me, I followed your steps slowly and carefully. Then I put the headset back on again …… WOW!! I hope that WOW properly describes what I saw. And just in time for the PMDG DC-6! When you drop by Toronto, in Canada, I’ll make you a proper cappuccino and you’ll enjoy a slice of my marble cake. Until then, coffee is on its way and as usual, the cake is your responsibility. I am truly thankful for helping me get properly immersed in the totally new aspect of flight simulation, that is VR.

[@SimHangerFS]

Glad it helped and order placed for marble cake 😁 thanks for your ongoing support . Stay safe.

[@michaelkuhn4700]

Hi Marc, I'm Michael and live in Switzerland. I fly the MSFS 2020 on a HP OMEN, Intel 10700 and a Nvidia Geforce Rtx 2070 super. Since last week I added a Samsung Odyssey + to the system. Thank you so much for this video! It helped me a LOT! It almost doubled my frames! At the PC and all options in "high" I got 54 FPS!! now. In VR everything works perfect with the Odyssey + and very smooth. Thanks again and all the best for you! Michael

[@SimHangerFS]

Thanks for your feedback 😁

[@mljhnr1]

I like your approach to setting OpenXR Render scaling to 100 and tweaking render scaling in the game to something lower. Others have done the opposite which I originally did. I've switched and while I think the results are the same at least OpenXR won't affect other VR games. I7-9700 + 2070Super.

[@gert-janvanderkamp3508]

Wow this changed the experience from 'jikes this was a bad buy' to 'holy shit i'm in an actual aircraft flying!!'. This makes such a difference, thanks!

[@Iceman-hb3uk]

3:23 main thing for smooth experience are 1% low and .1% low, you can have 30 FPS avg and 30 FPS for both 1% and .1% and get a smooth experience, then have 60FPS avg but like 20FPS 1% low and 15FPS .1% low and get way worse experience. Avg FPS isn't all, 1% and .1% lows are extremely important for smoothness and you can monitor them on software like RTSS which comes with MSI Afterburner, I'd recommend it. 4:56 power plan doesn't really affect in any way performance in gaming nor in any heavy app, the system will of course use all of the performance available while running an intensive app. It may help just a bit with opening app faster (not really noticeable tho usually), but gaming wise it won't really give you more FPS nor better 1% and .1% lows or stability. Same goes with game mode, it actually make it worse (like you said) but could help to avoid experiencing some micro-stutters in certain situations, it doesn't really help usually in gaming tho since it kinda doesn't work I guess? 7:10 here Windows won't "decide", it can only use the single GPU you have wether you put one or the other options, this only works on laptops or any PC with both integrated graphics and discrete GPU so that you can consume less energy using the integrated graphics (APU for AMD) for things like Google, office work and so while you use the discrete GPU for apps requiring more performance. If you let Windows decide it will be fine, on a PC with only one GPU tho it doesn't really make any difference at all. 7:35 talking about drivers stick with WHQL version (or whatever works better and without stability issues for you), usually you won't really get any performance from latest drivers nor stability fixes (usually they're just buggy). In some cases of course drivers could improve a lot (like we've seen with latest from AMD for 6xxx series), in that case know it could be buggy but still worth a try imho. 11:20 usually that settings isn't enabled by default. You need to open Windows register (windows key + r, type "regedit" and enter), then on the path write "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Holographic", right click on the "Holographic" folder and select new --> DWORD (32-bit) Value, name the key "FirstRunSucceeded", right click on the key and set value to 1. That's what I had to do since I hadn't it enabled by default. I just wanted to clarify or add a few things to your already great explanation, hoping this could help someone. Nice video, clear and straight to the point!

[@TUKUMZ]

good info. thank you. your flight graphics are incredible. when i fly over downtown chicago, the buildings look like the creatures from the book "Where The Wild Things Are"

[@justflyit7569]

I’ve been using HPreverb for an almost 1,5 years. Once I got G2, I sold it in two days and kept my G1. For me there were no improvements in lenses in a good way, no matter what everyone says about this. Sweet spot is the same. But I’ve noticed few other things, and because of them I stayed with G1. There are 1) White balance very dramatically shifted to the cooler side- not good for me. Because of the increasing displays brightness glare has become more pronounced, and black color became dark gray. Also I didn’t like the new gasket. So now I’m sticking to my G1 waiting for something else. )) So no improvement for the simulation use with G2 to me)! Thanks for your videos!

[@SimHangerFS]

I’ve made the same decision, sticking with the G1 for now, not enough in the G2 compared to price to make me want to change. Take care.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

sorry to hear about your G2 experience. I'm finding great things with the G2 but it requires quite a bit of tweaking and Headset adjustments. But it's glorious once it was all figured out.

[@justflyit7569]

@@dabneyoffermein595 Thank you! My experience is completely based on fairly heavy using of G1. And if let’s say I’d switched to G2 from Oculus Rifts or Index (I’ve got them both as well btw) I would be happiest man in the world). But there were no good differences for me with G2. But overall G2 is a great headset! I’m glad that you’re enjoying yours one!

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@justflyit7569 -- that's interesting that you say that because indeed I am coming from an Oculus Rift CV1 environment, and it was pretty bad in a cockpit. So you hit the nail on the head !! Hopefully HP will have updates to the headset firmware (if one exists) and / or updates to WMR or whatever drives the unit's programming to fix a few things in the headset. But I've overcome the sweet-spot issue I believe but not the God-Rays. Got a lot more flying to do but so far I'm immersed. Thanks for your help and feedback.

[@burnhard.]

Same experience here. Though i sold my G1 before getting the G2. If I knew what I now have experienced I would not switch. No reason. Same pros. Same cons.

[@basdebree]

Hi Marc, you have been a big help with this video! I have been watching several video’s about VR optimisation for this sim. I had some fair performance above 1500 feet, but below that and on the airfields it was a stuttering mess and giving me black borders in the headset. I have the G1 and a 2080 RTX. Dialing in these setting just made it absolutely smooth and so much more enjoyable! Now the market place in the sim seems interesting to expand the sim where it was no option for me with such bad framerates on airports. I am surprised Asobo hasn’t released something of a guidance video for VR optimization. Thanks for diving in to this Marc and posting this video! Keep up the good work!

[@SimHangerFS]

Glad it helped, and thanks for watching 😁

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

hi Mark great video once again there's some settings there that I haven't tried so many thanks... also a huge thank you for the shout out stay safe and take care

[@filipevilela8912]

Merci Marc. Fantastic video as usual.

[@sadunlap1]

Thanks Marc. Your videos are always helpful, and this one is excellent, as usual.

[@Anderso667]

Amazing work! This really helped me grab great graphics and solid frames... Your vide really helped me, Thanks! :)

[@SimHangerFS]

Hello all, hope there is something to help you in this video. Thanks for watching. Stay safe everyone.

[@CaveWaverider]

I think the reason why you're getting better performance when adjusting the in-game Render Scale down is that for some reason, the in-game render scale resolution is lower than the OpenXR resolution of the same percentage.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@CaveWaverider , I believe your assumption is exactly correct, that was my observation as well, but at a FPS penalty. Take care.

[@blueduckflight]

Great video. I am thinking about doing videos on MS FS 2020, but I only do VR so I am sticking to Xplane for now. Would you say its time for me to come over to the dark side?

[@SimHangerFS]

@@blueduckflight why don’t you do both for now....increase your viewer appeal. I am an avid Xplane fan, but MSFS is getting better by the day!

[@blueduckflight]

@@SimHangerFS Is it doable with a 1080 in VR? Like at least like DCS smooth?

[@4secsharkmr352]

Good video Marc. RTX3090 here on Board and what you said: 457.30 best Fps. No need to use Gforce Experience. Better to change the settings in nvidia control panel and ingame. OpenXR best for me: 70% for HP G2 and 100% in game. Reprojection off. I do the opposite way because the Instruments in the A320 are better readable than 100/70. I get 40-45 fps Take care buddy

[@waltersbg]

Thanks for the information. I supposedly have a G2 on the way (I'll believe it when it gets here). I have an RTX 3090 but my CPU is only an i7 9700F @3Ghz and my RAM speed is maxed out at 2666. If MSFS was only limited by the GPU, I'd be set. But my CPU is the bottleneck. What CPU do you have?

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@waltersbg Hi Walter, I have a 9900kf clocked at 4.7 - 4.8 GHz.

[@karelvangeel3061]

Again a perfect explanation that I even understand :-)

[@simplysimulator]

Very useful and well researched video thanks for all of the effort and great advice…the latest update of MSFS really seems to have nailed the VR experience.

[@ivanfojan8859]

Hi Mark. I'm using a rift s here, with a Ryzen 5 3600 and a 2080ti, plus 32gb ddr 4 3200 ram. Using the Oculus tray tool you can set ASW to 18fps (this makes it appear to be 36fps and is extremely smooth). I can run in almost all high or ultra settings without any problem. The thing is, I really love my rift s in racing sims, but prefer my 4k monitor when flying! Strange I know but that's just me :) Thanks for the video :)

[@MarkRiddellRacing]

Need to try this... we have identical system specs.

[@Bellthorian]

A good in the middle solution is to use virtual desktop and use your headset in 2D mode. Having a virtual 150 inch screen is quite immersive and the detail is preserved. I call is quasi VR, while not 3D the sheer size of the screen in virtual desktop almost allows you to see depth.

[@wilga80]

Excellent job ! Thank you for your work.

[@manusilverliner9399]

very good and clear video . very useful as I've just received my HP Reverb G2 headset since Yesterday. Congrats ! Cheers from Paris

[@SimHangerFS]

Congrats on getting your G2! 😀

[@CalmingAnxiety]

You won me over at "took off from Meigs field"

[@skypiratez]

Excellent video, well put together and easy to understand. Thanks!

[@mikeagosin5744]

You are God! Very helpful and informative!

[@thomasschwarz6652]

Another great Video ! Many Thanks !

[@sinorddrone509]

Bravo pour cette video parfait

[@NGC008]

Great video, useful as always. 👍👍👍

[@SimHangerFS]

Thank you, take care

[@DaveBrown1]

Thanks for the video / information Marc, all very interesting and well presented. I know what you mean about spending all your time tweaking the sim and not flying ;( Stay safe

[@horrgakx]

This is really useful, thanks very much for your time in this!!!

[@ivanteece]

Really easy to follow, great work. Thank you

[@ml561]

Very well explained!!!

[@Harryguitar58]

Thank you very much for your instructions! Helped me a lot! and answered a lot of questions

[@Macbrowndog]

Just received my HP G2 this has been very helpful...

[@armanvd8041]

I receive it today, looking forward to try this in the sim tomorrow 😍

[@MrMatthew1992]

Hi just thought I would add a comment as I have been having issues with motion reprojection using the Hp Reverb G2 but have recently resolved the stuttering this I'm sure will help ! Mixed Reality settings under Framerate, I had it set manually to 90Hz so Motion reprojection was halving that to 45fps. So setting it to Let windows decide( then restart pc), means when fps was so low in flight simulator in VR it automatically selected to run at 60Hz then allowing Motion reprojection to run at locked 30fps. (I think that's how it works, but works for me now so happy days) Mixed reality headset display settings, experience options = BEST VISUAL QUALITY, display resolution = BEST QUALITY, frame rate LET WINDOWS DECIDE. Open XR developer tool settings, use latest preview OpenXR runtime, custom render scale 100%, Motion reprojection ALWAYS ON. MAJOR SETTING TO TURN ON OR WONT WORK=Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling. ( tested with this off and fps all over the place up to 45fps, with on then locked to 30fps=smooth flying). WINDOWS GAMEMODE= OFF VARIABLE REFRESH RATE= OFF Nvidia vsync I have, use the 3d application setting. Just keep in mind you will then have to adjust the in game graphics settings and render scale so you will always stay above 30fps like as if it wasn't locked to 30 as any drop even 1 fps below 30 will cause stutter. In game resolution 70 or 60 depending on, if online or offline flying also depending what you set your graphics settings too. Better of having slightly lower settings or resolution and stay at locked 30 than go below. Best think being locked at 30fps with reprojection is that you can have higher in game settings & render scale. Some might not like reprojection but I choose artifacts over stuttering any day. I really hope it helps, as I had given up with VR msfs2020 for a while now, but finally got it to work :) I have also contacted Microsoft about getting a manual way to lock motion reprojection rate, like steam vr is now doing and oculus tray tool, they said they have put it forward to developers.

[@SimHangerFS]

Thanks for your contribution and feedback. I will experiment as suggested, finding the right settings is a never ending cycle :) much appreciated. Take care

[@orkaworldc2184]

Thanks for this , I’ve now found the sweet spot 👍

[@mithrillis]

I would say no matter what you do you must try to get the glass cockpit refresh rate to high. I don't know what the default VR setting is thinking, but low glass panel refresh rate is just unplayable. You would rather want lower scenery refresh rate than instrument refresh rate.

[@dbernasconi]

Awesome Video, thanks!

[@dtrjones]

Hi Mark, I enjoyed your video - I've had my head in these settings for a while now but the last couple of weeks I've finally settled on settings which I'm happy with. Just thought I'd share as I have a similar system, Intel 9900K, Asus 2080Ti and I can get totally smooth frames in VR, I mean it feels as smooth as the portal. I'm using a Reverb G2. The trick was to overclock and use reprojection but I noticed you use reprojection is a very bad way - you need to have much lower OXR render scaling because as you noticed it has a hit on performance. The experience with these settings is phenomenal - it really is - not the sharpest visuals but in the G2 it's pretty decent and the colours are amazing but having it smooth is an incredible experience. Asus ROG Strix 2080Ti using MSI Afterburner overclock by 150Mhz Intel 9900K Overclock all cores 4.7Ghz OXR 65%, runtime preview enabled reprojection always on. MSFS TAA render scaling 70% MSFS Graphics settings all enabled - settings @ Medium MSFS Traffic all off/disabled.

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi David, thanks for the feedback, very helpful, I continue to experiment even though I promised myself I wouldn’t! Just always searching for that little bit extra. Take care

[@simplysimulator]

Promising not to search for the bit of extra performance is like promising never to re-build, tweak or fiddle with the sim …… not likely 😂

[@Mayhem6633]

You mentioned you weren't able to measure fps in VR. It's easy. In the OpenXR app, under developer settings there's a checkbox to "display frame timing overlay". That will show it in VR. Here's another tip. Pay more attention to the frametime values than the fps in the overlay. I'm finding that you want to get the frametimes for both the CPU and GPU under 20 ms to have a stutter free experience. I lose too much quality with my 2070 super graphics card when I drive those frametimes under 20 so I'm sitting in mid-20s at the moment and I experience some stuttering but I can live with it. Your 2080Ti might have better success. Good luck and thanks for the videos.

[@SimHangerFS]

Thanks Hank, I actually did just that but didn’t want to present any figures in the video. I agree with you, FPS in vr is a secondary consideration. Thanks for your feedback 👍

[@Lynkx1985]

Thank you very much for your useful information

[@weircottage]

Suoer clear and helpful. Thank you...

[@oliverf944]

@8:10 they're wrong on texture resolution. It has a massive impact. but the you need to restart the the game for it to take affect.

[@jjeeqq]

Thanks, i knew all of these but forgot their existence. Biggest impact is rendering resolution, example comparing to 100% against 50%, you have 3 times less pixels to render by machine (but ofcourse you lose 3 times of accurary on image too), so it should be maybe last but most important step when lacking smoothens, everything else should be tweaked first.

[@msrtincollins8233]

Well done

[@RobertGeez]

Custom render scale should be set to 70 percent (XRruntime) to increase performance by 50 percent. Set render scale to 100 percent in game

[@whiteflyingmonkey]

FANTASTIC

[@DjankoDK]

An interesting point is, that the settings in PC mode in MFS2020, has a change in performance for the VR mode. So lower the settings in PC mode, will affect the VR mode.

[@SimHangerFS]

Interesting you say that. I am currently experimenting with exactly this. Results so far are erratic...

[@alesouza26]

Very Very Good!!

[@SimHangerFS]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@robertbell4455]

Coppied all these settings and the best I could get was 25 fps. The biggest improvement was when I turned off customised render scale in Open XR developer tools and fps shot up to 35. I was then able to turn up a lot of in game settings and I still get 35 to 39 fps.

[@TOKOLOSH3]

Baie dankie Boet!

[@PhilBlackbourn]

Thank you!

[@I_still_use_winamp]

For me with a 2080 super .... different drivers are plying a big factor... driver version 457.30 works extremely well and I recommend people to try it ... I’m also getting word that 452.06 is worth checking out ...sometime I feel if somethings working good why change it ? ... the most updated video card drivers work like butt for me

[@FlyingCsongor]

Is your channel's name really Sim Hanger? HangEr? I'm not a native English speaker but know the difference between hangar and hanger.

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi, yes it really is ....er. A long story....😁

[@user_16309]

Disregard. Reading the article you linked. Thanks. My 2070Super, Valve Index, Ryzen 5 3600 and 64Gb of DDR 4 3200 CL 16 RAM just can’t haul the mail in be. I’m bumming. I know these specs are not detailed yet I want to ask should I not expect to have smooth vr performance? If not would the gpu when able be the best upgrade? Thanks.

[@nursegilbey]

So does having a VR headset eliminate the need for a massive flight sim cockpit build with all the various control panels?

[@garyking6365]

VR headsets are still not there yet. They are still blurry around the edges of the eye pieces. Not clear like people say on the HP reverb G2

[@horstluning2851]

Thank you Marc, appreciate it very much! One question: How can I change the appeared size of objects in MSFS? Example: If I taxi at an airport, everything seems so small. The Objects, other plaines etc. This is not as it is in real life. There is a huge difference compared to xplane. There it seems to fit very well. Just try it for yourself in EDDF if you want. Btw I have a Pimax 5k.

[@SimHangerFS]

Hello Horst, might by related to the Pimax, I don’t have that scale problem with the Reverb. Must be something in the Pi Tools perhaps.

[@forferdeilig]

I also noticed this with an oculus rift s, everything feels about 80% scale, including cockpit

[@ladislavbursa5278]

Thank you :)

[@xrider55]

How do you cap frame rate on the HP Reverb?

[@SimHangerFS]

It’s not like the Oculus, you can’t formally cap the FPS. If struggling try the 60hz mode in the windows vr settings. Regards

[@hesynergy]

Another great video! Thanks for your contributions! How are you managing to present us with a 2-D image on KZbin, yet fly with your G2 ? I’ve wanted to but I’m in the cusp of decent Smoothness and stuttering...IF I don’t use OBS...Yeah I know one eye view will give us what we are seeing, but at a significant FPS hit. Thanks, Chas

[@SimHangerFS]

To record the FPS I had to zoom in to one eye for the video.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

how high up a version did you take WINDOWS 10 to? There are very high versions like 2002 and 20H2, did you take it all the way up to 20H2 ?

[@SimHangerFS]

Only updated based on the inbuilt windows updater....2004 I think.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@SimHangerFS ok, i just told my windows to update, looks like its going to try to go to 20H2 , who knows, it may fail anyway. I know my laptop fails when trying to go to 20H2, but since 20H2 was October, I figure I better at least try to get it there. I'm currently going through all the settings suggestions in this video so thanks a lot, i also have a 2080Ti, ,,,, im still trying to determine if i need to go to a 3090 , haven't decided yet.

[@DeadJoe]

So MSFS 2020 doesn't show up in my Graphics Performance Preference tabs. Any ideas how to add it?

[@SimHangerFS]

You need to link it to your .exe file. You can do this by clicking on add....the path will be something like this C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.15.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe then your flightsimulator.exe file.

[@DeadJoe]

@@SimHangerFS Ok so i found the file but i can only add it through the desktop app and not the Microsoft one. Hopefully it'll be the same result. Thanks for the video and response, much appreciated.

[@paulmayabb9949]

Thanks for the guide, I had a question for you, as you recorded the flight video in GeForce Experience from the VR head set, how did you eliminate one of the views, did you do it in post video, or is there a way to capture both eyes into one video? My recording shows both eyes separately on the screen. Thanks,

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi Paul, there are two ways to do it. Use the WMR mirror as shown in the video or record the duel view on screen and then zoom in to one view. Regards

[@_jamesrayner_]

Wow, you knocked that one out of the park. Very informative video once again, great job. 👍 - Just a quick question: I'm thinking of getting a VR headset and im stuck between deciding on the Oculus Quest 2 and the Oculus Rift S (Both £299 in the UK). The Quest 2 is newer and I've heard that the Rift S is soon being discontinued. What would you go for if it were your money being spent??? - Cheers, James

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi James, personally I would go for the Quest 2, better resolution and also option for stand alone ( not fltsim). Rift S is a good headset, but a bit behind the times now. Take care.

[@_jamesrayner_]

@@SimHangerFS Thanks for the recommendation and the great video. Stay safe

[@Randomdude-i8x]

Can I get a call when RTX 4080 is available? Or the 7800XT?

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi Harry, the RTX 3080 is now starting to become available, no news on the 4000 series....not in 2021 I suspect. The 6900 XT should soon be available, RDNA next gen dates have not been announced. Regards

[@jaggedppsrg6777]

Hello, thank you for the videos . I am new to MSFS 20 and the FLYING SIMS. I am a SIM RACER and this is a new realm for me , and I love it . your info has helped me dramatically . Thank you . I do have a question though if you could help with it. How do you record or stream a single image. I can only see the 2 Eye split image on my screen . Any help in this is greatly appreciated . Thank you again

[@SimHangerFS]

Hello, you can record by zooming into one eye, or more commonly use the free mirror screen as shown in the video. Thanks for your feedback 👍

[@jaggedppsrg6777]

@@SimHangerFS Thank You

[@seca0815]

Hey very nice Video. I have the gtx 1080 ti do u use the new Nvidia drivers now? I have always microstutters :(

[@SimHangerFS]

At this point for 10 series cards use the older drivers. Stay safe

[@milehighflyr6022]

Great Video. Your recordings are very smooth. Using the WMR mirror seems very choppy and lots of exaggerated head movements on my recordings how do you get your recordings so smooth?

[@SimHangerFS]

Zoom into one eye and also change the recording mbps in the nvidia capture settings, default is something like 50....go for 100.

[@milehighflyr6022]

@@SimHangerFS Thanks for sharing this info. I'll give it a go tomorrow.

[@milehighflyr6022]

@@SimHangerFS hmmm, I currently record with OBS, using this thinking I'm wondering if I bumped up my recording bitrate in OBS might achieve the same thing with OBS?

[@SimHangerFS]

@@milehighflyr6022 yes, try 5000 and 30000, I believe default is 2500

[@milehighflyr6022]

@@SimHangerFS how are you zooming into one eye? I thought there was a hot key for shadow play but don't see anything and can't seem to find anything on the net about it. Are you doing the zooming after recording the footage in your video editor?

[@LWJCarroll]

Thanks I watched to see if I could pickup some WHD tips only as MSGS 2020 installer still crashes at the photo. I tried it again about a month back with the new London image but got the very same crash. On my WIN 10 PC...Laurie

[@SimHangerFS]

Do you have an AMD Ryzen with PCIe4....if so change to PCIe3 on mboard in bios.

[@flyhalf2]

Mark, if I set WMR headset display to "Optimise for performance" then my mouse does not interact with the switches in VR. If I leave it on "Let window decide" or "best quality" then my mouse ineracts OK

[@SimHangerFS]

Weird...I don’t have this issue....I’ll check, maybe an update.

[@flyhalf2]

@@SimHangerFS Problem solved Mark, I had Input switching set to automatic. A quick pause of your video and I saw you had it set to manual. Al I need now is a fix to allow me and my Radeon GPU to fly for longer than 1 hour

[@ZenonZolek]

I've asked many you tubers how do I get the drop-down from the top of the screen when in vr, nobody answers my question

[@SimHangerFS]

Hello, if you mean the inflight menu, no problem, CTL TAB

[@waltersbg]

@Zenon Zolek - The default key mapping to open the in-flight VR toolbar/menu is ALT. However, if you're like me and you've customized any of the mappings, it may not be mapped. Go to OPTIONS->GENERAL->VR MODE and see what key it says to use for "VR - TOOLBAR TOGGLE". If there's nothing shown then go to OPTIONS->CONTROLS and set up a key for the VR toolbar. Good Luck.

[@ZenonZolek]

@@waltersbg thank you, I'll try it soon

[@ZenonZolek]

@@SimHangerFS thank you

[@ZenonZolek]

@@SimHangerFS yea at last thanks it worked

[@what_the_fff]

Can't wait to try these. I have a 3070 and it stutters so bad even on low its almost unplayable at times.

[@SimHangerFS]

With a 3070 you should get the same performance as I do as I have the 2080 ti

[@what_the_fff]

@@SimHangerFS Thanks for the video I'll try tomorrow!

[@MarkRiddellRacing]

2080Ti at least meets recommended vram requirements... 3070 doesn't.

[@what_the_fff]

@@MarkRiddellRacing mines OC edition 11gig

[@SimHangerFS]

@@MarkRiddellRacing hi Mark, if your getting a lot of stuttering in VR to the point it is unplayable, and you have a 3070 (8Gb) then I suspect the core issue is elsewhere. I have wanted to do a video on graphic cards, but availability is totally ridiculous right now. A colleague of mine has a 3070 founders edition (EVGA) and his performance against my 2080 ti @ medium to high settings is about -2.5%. There is a more marked difference of about -10% over places like New York City. Regards

[@polrishtrucker]

Hi, I have recentyl bought oculus quest 2 and I am very disappointed. On your movie I can see you have animated view for the gameplay and this is the point. How did you got the anime resolution? In my headset I have 3d view I mean like in real aircraft and it is blurred so the eyes get tired very fast. Even the digits are very hardly readable. I think It would be much better to fly in with anime resolution instead with 3d display. It is not playable. Thanks

[@greathorton]

Is this www.oculus.com/quest-2/ worth buying and recommended for MSFS2020?

[@SimHangerFS]

Yes it definitely is, for medium res, good value for money. You will need the pc link cable. Oculus charge heavily for this, look to third parties at 30%. If you are only using this with the pc go for the 64gb version as opposed to the more expensive 256gb version. More expensive if using it stand alone for other reasons.

[@zaro9709]

super

[@cuttheloop]

Could you do a similar guide for DCS World?

[@SimHangerFS]

Great idea 😁

[@paulsheather7657]

Would i be right in saying that you lose the rain effect on the windscreen in VR.

[@SimHangerFS]

No the rain effect is visible and works great. Regards

[@paulsheather7657]

@@SimHangerFS Ok I will have to go back and look at my settings.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@paulsheather7657 you can see a brief example here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGK9qZqPlp18d5Y at 10:17

[@Deluxeimpacts]

I don't see the option for Mixed reality ? Someone can help ?

[@Valbob25]

thank you very much. I dis most of your settings. getting 40-45 fps with the 3080 in the G2, but turning my head just doesnt feel smooth and this is sadly gamebreaking. I really dont know what iam doing wrong

[@SimHangerFS]

Experiment with motion projection on and off. Also try 70% res in open XR and 100% in sim. Try both 60 & 90 hz in WMR headset. Regards

[@Valbob25]

@@SimHangerFS coming from racing sim, i think the Problem is, everything under 90fps is just not smooth. I get sick turning my head with 40fps in fs2020

[@NightOwlGames]

what vr headset do i need?

[@SimHangerFS]

Difficult question to answer, depends on your budget and expectations. I have a video coming out late next week which may give you some idea. In summary Oculus Quest 2 or HP Reverb G2. Regards

[@baileytuddenham6621]

Hi, I’ve got an issue on mine. I’m using oculus. Everything looks perfect and is all in focus apart from pop up tabs like objectives and checklist and atc. They’re all so out of focus for each eye that I literally have to shut one eye to be able to read it cause they’re just not in the right place on both eyes, do you know how to fix this? Can’t find anything online.

[@SimHangerFS]

Have you checked and adjusted your IPD?

[@baileytuddenham6621]

@@SimHangerFS Hi, no I haven’t, can you please direct me on how I can do this and whether you know what it should be set to for an oculus headset?

[@SimHangerFS]

@@baileytuddenham6621 I don’t do Oculus, but check out this video and channel kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGrde5RvmsSlfZY

[@keeskaasenbrood2111]

Thanks Marc, excellent 'overall' video. And almost the same hardware as I have ! (P7-8700, 2080Super and G1). Can you please show the advised/used start up sequence of your apps ? In my case there is (sometimes !) a lot of difference if I connect the G1 after starting up MSFS or before. And if I startup MSFS via steam, steamVR, the WMR portal or a direct link to the MSFS exe. Stay Safe ! Kees

[@SimHangerFS]

I start WMR portal ( I don’t use steam) before starting MSFS. I too have noticed a difference. Regards

[@Mako-sz4qr]

Great video ! Looks amazing and I want to add msfs to my gaming rig. I have been into DCS. Is it okay to download and install MSFS on a separate ssd Evo 860 1tb by its self? I have to HP G2 and would to check out all this awesome stuff that MSFS has to offer Thx for any advice

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi Burt, you could install to an external SSD, but I would not recommend it, especially for vr as it could have a significant impact on performance. Regards

[@Mako-sz4qr]

New sub thx!

[@Mako-sz4qr]

Thank you fir your reply but I meant internal 2.5 ssd not external. Also I did hear you say your running steamvr beta .. your thoughts thank for your time

[@SimHangerFS]

@@Mako-sz4qr , oh, apologies, an internal SSD...that will be perfect. No I am not running MSFS vis Steam, using WMR direct. Regards

[@Mako-sz4qr]

Thank you your awesome 👍🏻

[@coolcol06]

Managed to work my way through but I don`t seem to have the mixed reality part (11.26 time frame). I have a mixed reality app but it wont recognise my Oculus Rift s - keeps asking me to connect the headset which I unplug and plug in a couple of times but no joy - any ideas? Thanks

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi Colin, your headset doesn’t use WMR, it uses the Oculus software. This video will get you up and running kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6atf4xng6-ApZY

[@unlimitedgoodliving5669]

@@SimHangerFS I have the same problem with a htc cosmos. What does WMR mean? My biggest issue is focusing on the dash.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@unlimitedgoodliving5669 , hello, WMR stands for Windows Mixed Reality. It is the VR software that some headsets use. The HTC Cosmos uses different software from HTC and is installed during setup. Not sure if your aware but the Cosmos software was updated on 22nd January. Make sure you set the IPD to suit you. Helps with clarity. Regards

[@abdulrhmanalhashimi218]

Hello mr mark which is the best vr glass for MSFS

[@SimHangerFS]

Mid range is Oculus Quest 2, best and top end currently is HP Reverb G2. Regards

[@user_16309]

With a Valve Index I don’t see and don’t believe I have a Mixed Really in settings. Is this correct? Thanks.

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi Dustin, you are using WMR as part of your SteamVR, but you don’t need the separate utility I cover in this video. You can change these setting within SteamVR. Regards

[@greathorton]

Hi, I tried my Oculus Guest 2 with i7-6800K and GTX1660 Super, the performance is unstable while I was switching MSFS2020 to 3D mode.

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi, this guide is for WMR headsets, not Oculus. Check out VR Flight Sim Guy channel for details on Oculus settings. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJmVhmxjaLKXl5Y

[@greathorton]

@@SimHangerFS Thank you for your information, very useful. Perhaps I would consider of Graphic Card upgrade for VR purpose.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@greathorton , if possible I would go for a 3070 ( same performance as rtx2080 ti) or anything above that. Regards

[@richardlyon67]

WARNING: After implementing these changes, VR failed to start, with the error message “The initialization of VR failed. Please check that OpenXR is installed on your computer and your headset can use it.” My installation is currently unusable. I'd recommend making only one change at a time, and testing your installation after each to isolate anything that is causing your system to become unstable.

[@LeDerpLegend]

Very good video, but some AMD control panel stuff would have been nice too.

[@birkatron1]

Thanks, how do you record your screen?

[@SimHangerFS]

I use the GEForce screen capture facility and post record zoom in to one image or use the WMR mirror.

[@milehighflyr6022]

For clarification, you use ShadowPlay and then zoom into one eye display to record just the left or right eye?

[@SimHangerFS]

@@milehighflyr6022 , yes correct, or I use the WMR display mirror as shown in the video and record that. It gives a better representation of what you actually see in vr.

[@milehighflyr6022]

@@SimHangerFS I record with the WMR mirror currently but my recordings are not as smooth in terms of head movements. Maybe I'm just to figity. 🤔

[@mikepiotrowski8306]

I'm enjoying my VR experience so far but for one issue: How do Acsess the instruments like the G1000 in VR? :-) I'm using the Oculus Quest 2.

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi, use the mouse and click on the buttons etc.

[@mikepiotrowski8306]

Thank you! :-)

[@anthonycaruso3061]

I cannot get it to work

[@TGIF2u]

Adjusting power management mode in 3d setting has nothing to do with grahpic performance

[@SimHangerFS]

I beg to differ, it has a direct link to power management of the graphics card, and thus performance. Regards

[@dealaiz]

step one: do 60 hgz and get very smooth picture. is all that you need to know!

[@EinkOLED]

I'm getting 40 FPS and it is still stuttering, I suspect my headset is not able to display 72 or 90 HZ

[@SimHangerFS]

What headset are you using?

[@dabneyoffermein595]

so on the OpenXR, you have the Custom Render Scale unchecked...does that just leave the system at a default of 100%. OR What does unchecking that mean?

[@SimHangerFS]

Yes, unchecked means the render scale is 100%. Regards

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@SimHangerFS -- thank you! you're always a big help to us all !!

[@migganimon]

I’ve read differently, but not 100% sure. CaptainLucky on the FSForums says not setting a custom render scale actually allows OpenXR to choose the scale for you based on your graphics card.

[@monikamyszko5512]

"Oldest simer on earth"

[@n9nf8ces]

You sound like Terence Stamp.

[@mcsimracing7308]

I have an i5 9600k and RTX 2080 using rift s. This game is horribly optimised. No matter what settings it isn’t even playable in VR. Followed numerous advice videos and cannot get it to a point where it’s remotely playable.

[@SimHangerFS]

See if this is of any help. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bom4iqqfhp6AlcU

[@mcsimracing7308]

Thanks. I’ll give it a go.

[@mekowgli]

Nice video. Basically the same conclusions I came up with here: forums.flightsimulator.com/t/vr-settings-that-work-for-me-reverb-g2-rtx-2080ti-r3900x/341773 Right now I just fly at OXR 100 / MSFS 100 and just avoid areas that are harder on performance. Couldn't bear the blurriness from 100/70. Especially in planes with digital displays. I can live with slightly degraded external visuals but I need the cockpit to be 100% sharp. It's a pity you cannot change the render scale for those independently (like most other modern flight sims do).