WOW, this trick increased my Virtual Reality clarity in MSFS! Try it! 0 FPS COST!

[@theVRpilot]

Clarity is KING! Skip to 4:20 to see exactly how to do this, again the rest of the video I think is (somewhat helpful) haha, but I am just trying to give information and share so you dont get frustrated later or at least understand the limit and what is going on here. I will HAVE a follow up video to this. Again, shout out to Ben and the MSFS VR FB community for always discovering new things!

[@GaryX1001]

re-tested it, i would think that the cockpit might look abit sharper, but i really can't say yes or no. my water does not look like in your video :) at first the 200 wouldn't save, had to do it twice to make it stay. Wish there would be a bug which eliminates the CTD, that is really something they should care about.

[@K0S0s]

I was also skeptical, but this worked on my Q2. Game running really well even in complex glass cockpits at high settings. 3070, 10900k, 32gbs ram, SSD

[@MrHughes500]

Tried it and it seen a big increase overall . Cant believe it. Using the g2 and have to say its the first time I really enjoyed my flight. Thanks for video

[@theVRpilot]

Awesome! What are the specs of your PC and what is your native desktop resolution? Also, latest gpu drivers?

[@Mysteroo]

As a guy who studied film, I can confirm that this totally makes sense that it would work. Videographers will tell you that even if your screen is limited to 1080p, 4k recordings will look better than 1080p recordings. I couldn't tell you why, but it's pretty common knowledge. So it follows that the same principals apply here: no matter what your screen resolution is, if the game is rendering at a higher resolution then it will look better.

[@PebbleTrader]

In DevMode -> Options -> Volumetric Atmospheric Effects (turns off the clouds and gained about 10FPS) You lose the clouds but allows you to bump up other more important settings

[@theVRpilot]

Interesting, I’ll check it out! Thanks!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

This is bananas!! Looking forward to trying this hack thanks buddy great video

[@theVRpilot]

Yes ! let us know if works with Pimax lol

[@raynx9962]

@@theVRpilot Hello there, If you want your 3090 to perform at its peak potential at lower resuloution (1080p, 1440p), I recommend you to upgrade your cpu to atleast a ryzen 9 5900x to reduce the bottle neck that the i7 9700k is giving you (Whenever you can afford it)...its just a recommendation :)

[@theVRpilot]

@@raynx9962 great point. I was discussing this with a friend. I saw a 10700k in stock today at a local store and 1 5800x. But not ready haha. Because I need a mobo too. But great advice. I know Steve is very happy with his cpu choice paired with his 3090

[@raynx9962]

@@theVRpilot thats all that matters, if someone is happy with what they have, thats what matters.!

[@bradmacoz]

WOW, Worked for me, so clear! thank you, much more VR for me from now on!!! 1080ti & Oculus Rift S, 32meg @ 3200, I7-4670K, Purchased: MS Store, 5760x1080, Latest Nvidia drivers @ 13/6

[@theVRpilot]

Awesome!! Can you also share your the rest of your pc specs, windows resolution, gpu driver and if you got the game in steam VR or Microsoft store? I’m trying to see if I can find a pattern for those who aren’t seeing it. Thanks!

[@thecooldude11]

This may be the best tip out there! Less stuttering, same-ish framerate, but i can read my dials without having to move my head closer! Thanks! Rift S GTX 1060 6gb I7 3770k 16GB DDR3

[@theVRpilot]

Thanks for the Feedback!

[@mariachi127]

Wow, thanks. I'm stunning how this improved my VR experiance. I actually did play around with this settings before. But I stopped at 140/160 because the framerate was horrible. So I decided to stick at 80% which worked best for me. And now I'm at 200% Amazing.

[@maguila7777]

Thank you for this tip! The clarity is amazing on Reverb G1!!

[@theVRpilot]

Awesome!

[@hejmollermads]

I didn't see a difference on my G2 headset. But I'm also quite pleased with the image quality already. I have the developer tool set at 90 % and the ingame VR render scale at 70 % I'm not sure if the fps has changed, but I didn't see a change in clarity I could notice.

[@Kappachino1911]

Beyond sorcery.... Even on a 3090 when I saw the FPS while in the menu drop from 65ish to mid 40s I was skeptical and giving my "high-end" GPU the side-eye. But IN GAME....Oooowie!! Better than I imagined!! IDK what is going on but I only hope it gets better implementation and isn't a bug in the matrix. Thanks for this!!

[@robertzolliecoffer2845]

All I can say is wow it definitely helped my vr experience help out in msfs, so far looking like a different experience in vr.

[@theVRpilot]

Another one! Happy to hear! What is your Pc specs, headset, gpu driver and windows resolution. Also steam VR or Microsoft store? (Trying to ask for those that aren’t seeing it, maybe we can figure out something in common, thanks!)

[@mousepd]

Thank you! Can't wait to try it out!

[@anthony-mor]

September 2022. Thank you!! it improved the smoothness!!! Clarity felt a bit better but mostly the same. I flew through LA before putting the setting and my game was heavily stuttering. After doing the 200 scale thingy, I flew through LA again and the game went smooth. Awesome!

[@Tygrmoth]

ai have a feeling that it also depends on the native resolution of your monitor. I get different results if I switch my main display from my 1280x1024 monitor to my 2560x1440 monitor. If you can, try it and see.

[@joachim2464]

Wow, seems like Asobo has coded something weird that they have not noticed. Seems like there is potential for big improvement in VR performance in the future without doing this trick.

[@Simlife101]

To me it looks as if the render resolution stating 100 was actually less and 200 is the real 100. This has been the case in many flat screen games

[@poolhallshark]

First off, my specs: MSI GeForce RTX 3070 VENTUS 2X OC , i7-10700k and 32 GB RAM After a couple of hours testing and tweaking I have come to the conclusion that there IS a difference in clarity, AT LEAST within the cockpit. The difference isn't quite as obvious in the scenery. BUT what is the strangest to me is this fact: If you follow common logic, you'd think that lowering your VR settings would result in better FPS an hence, also a smoother and maybe even clearer image quality. But this is not the case at all for me. When I lower all my settings from ULTRA to MEDIUM and lower the OpenXR rendering scale to 70%, I experience crazy lagging, and FPS around 15-17. However, when I increase all my settings to ULTRA and increase the OpenXR rendering scale to 100%, I get a steady 30+ FPS without any lag whatsoever. Even low flying during sunset with scattered clouds gives me this result. It's so counter-intuitive it's crazy. LOL Anyone else experiencing the same ?

[@genz0r]

I been almost like 1 week dedicating from 2-3 hours a day trying to tweak that game and even if i arrived to a point the game is at least 100% playable and enjoyable , i have to say i thought the same as u . Informatica can be very weird.

[@bangjoeofficial]

I'm starting to think I was one of those users who was already getting a clear image cuz I noticed a difference after the last drivers and I'm thinking I was getting the placebo effect when I first tried this trick when in reality I dont think there was much of a difference.

[@theVRpilot]

thanks for the honesty follow up Joe! the Render Setting doesnt stay keep that in mind. And actually, I think this happened to me too. I am trying now to go from HIGH render scale to LOW to see if anything changes. But some folks are def. being impressed, so something is happening!

[@bangjoeofficial]

@@theVRpilot This may be a dumb question cuz I'm not really much of a computer guy only kind of learning about stuff through this experience but my game is run on a Samsung 49" ultra wide at 3840x1080 resolution. Is there anything about this that I should consider when doing my settings in VR? I mean, I wouldn't have thought to think about this other than I see you and others talk about your 4k monitors. Again, I feel like it's a dumb question but maybe I'm missing something.

[@ueberalleberge]

Hi Guys, thanks for bringing that up, can you please also give me your other VR Setup values? I am using a HP Reverb 2 on the Bell 407 Helicopter, and somehow for me seems the instruments in the cockpit are still not really sharp, how could I get the instruments sharper? thanks, Peter

[@Carlovfx]

Reason why this actually works at virtually no cost but not for everyone: FS2020 is strictly CPU bound, GPUs dont get stressed how they should be, increasing resolution makes the GPU work as intended with no cost more on calculation because the GPU was free, CPU and GPU are now working both "as intended" and one must not fall behind the other anymore in cycles. Basically in this specific case the GPU dont have to wait anymore for the CPU to complete its calculations. This means that you have a large window to increase your resolution which in VR translates directly in clarity. Does this work for all GPUs? Yes and no, depends on the difference between GPU and CPU. Everytime you have a game or simulation CPU bound you should make the GPU work harder. Everytime you have a game or simulation GPU bound you should make the CPU work harder. Captain flies away.

[@komrad1983]

no knowledge whatsoever you have on the subject, MSFS is the same GPU bound as CPU

[@Carlovfx]

@komrad1983 lol, every software is CPU or gpu bound, otherwise you would have infinite fps. In the case of FS the problem is all on the CPU bottlenecking. As far as for me not having any knowledge on the subject: lol again.

[@ianmorgan9291]

Actually works cannot believe it. Excellent thanks you.

[@theVRpilot]

Awesome Ian! Hard to believe right? Hopefully we get a proper answer from MS/ASOBO soon.

[@egore24]

For completeness, please share ALL of your settings. Windows settings and in-game settings, both PC and VR. I’m thinking there might be a settings combination at work here, not just render scale. It’s possible for those that it doesn’t work, possibly have another setting(s) either enabled or not enabled that need to be set as well to get this to work. I hope you can share this as it’s not making a difference for my set up. Thanks.

[@theVRpilot]

I didn't share them because people with settings all OVER the place are getting this to work, with that being said I will try to include all this in my next video. HAGS on, Gamemode off, Latest Drivers for RTX 3090, 9700K Overclocked, Reverb G2, OpenXr runtime On, no custom resolution, reprojection off. I am asking folks like yourself to share your SPECS so I can comb through and try to find a common denominator for why it is not working.

[@bangjoeofficial]

It does look nicer but I'm still getting this stutter when I look out the window down at the ground at low altitude. 2080 super. Feel like others are getting a much more smoother experience. It's definitely playable and seems better since the increase on PC rendering.

[@theVRpilot]

Way cool! Question, what GPU drivers do you run? And do you have HAGS, on or off? (hard ware accelerated graphics schedule)

[@AvivCohen92]

Same issue here, stutter when i look to the ground :( 2070 here

[@bangjoeofficial]

@@theVRpilot I'm on the newest Nvidia from a few days ago, HAGS off. I went back in earlier and almost feel like my clarity is worse than before. I plan on getting into it some more and trying a few things tomorrow after work.

[@bangjoeofficial]

@@AvivCohen92 You overall have a pretty good experience right? Like do you feel you're ALMOST there with the settings and it's slightly jittery but you still can get a beautiful experience but annoyed cuz you're missing something? haha... i mean that's exactly my feeling every time i'm in and instead of enjoying it I'm spending time tinkering. Curious what your tray tool settings and headset settings are. We're probably in the exact same boat.

[@alesouza26]

Hi, I tested it and it worked perfectly. Improved visual and performance! my pc is: i7-7700 GTX1080Ti 32GB Ram Oculus CV1 Oculus debug: 1.7

[@845SiM]

This works for normal aswell, thought everyone knew about this. I use this for my 1080p monitor to upscale the look. It does cost a little FPS but for the bonus in clarity it’s worth it.

[@theVRpilot]

I hear you and in theory sure, but it’s not a known thing as many people don’t run 1080p in higher res. Some do but on top of that, this is the equivalent of changing 2d trees and having a result in Vr. Something is off. Coding? Maybe? But I run MSFS in 4k on my desktop and run reverb g2 and it does nothing to my visual clarity. This is similair but trust me if anyone knew this months ago, it would have been discovered. Lucky and continuous tinkering found this one by Ben in my MSFS VR Facebook group.

[@desktopaviator977]

This worked for me. Even in cities the performance seemed to improve, very small amounts of micro stutters.. I'm using a i7-9700k OC to 5ghz. RTX 2080s overclocked. 32gb 3600mhz Ram Rift-s headset. My VR settings are balance of high and medium. Vr global rendering set at 90 PC settings set to medium. With rendering set to 200%

[@keithdolezel]

this still relevant? i will try it out, just wondering if MSFS did anything related to this as I'm just now getting into Flight sim VR.

[@theVRpilot]

Hmm, maybe not, some recently have said yes, but I dont know personally. I do not think it works like it used to! It was impressive before. Lots of things have changed and overall the game is pretty good now in VR with DLSS.

[@alvarof2745]

Thanks for the tip, could you please share your vr display settings.

[@Fullhouse0056y6]

Please need help!!! I use FS2020 in VR: HP Reverb G2. I had EVGA RTX 3080 TI 12GB video card, figured out my FS2020 settings the way i like, also using OpenXR. All the way i like. and in not busy airport i could get up to 40FPS, in busy up to 30. I just replaced video card with PNY RTX 4080 TI Super Verto Overclocked triple fan 16GB. I kept all settings the same and made sure they are the same. With new card i get exactly SAME FPS!!! Not even 1 more FPS - just same FPS!!! :( Why? I do not want to lower my setting to get more FPS because i can do same thing with my old EVGA RTX 3080 TI card and just return RTX 4080 TI Super. Seem like RTX 4080 TI Super is Garbage. My CPU is i5-13600kf, RAM DDR5 32GB, SSD drive, Windows 10. All drivers are up to date. If i can't get better FPS with RTX 4080 TI Super using same simple settings then what is the purpose in new card. I do not want to see if i get better FPS in standard 2D SF2020 mode because i believe will probably. I used 3D mark to test old card and then new card and i got more FPS with new card - but that was all 2D not VR. Thoughts?

[@theVRpilot]

Short answer return the card save the money while you CAN. I’ll come back later with a more detailed answer later today.

[@kina7030]

It most likely is a cpu thread bottleneck, the game is programmed to only use the main thread of your cpu, so when the mainthread is already 100% the performance wont improve. Search up msfs mainthread issue.

[@kina7030]

Also you may want to test other games to see if you notice any performance improvements

[@theVRpilot]

@kina7030 Correct. Hopefully MSFS 2024 improves on this

[@rfazio2009]

Works for me! I've got an I7, 2080TI and using the Rift-S. very smooth.

[@theVRpilot]

Thanks for the FEEDBACK! =)

[@lorangrant1000]

Wow! I’ve been struggling for a couple of years trying to sharpen my vr. That did it! Thanks.

[@theVRpilot]

So cool! Thanks for the feedback!

[@mindfulmunchkin1215]

Confirmed ! works on full ultra graphics with a G2 !! i9 3090 about time !

[@theVRpilot]

THIS IS HOW I FELT! I was like OK, THIS IS WHAT I have been waiting for! AWESOME! If it goes "away" Double check that the PC is at 200%. Exit MSFS. Open it up and try it again. I felt that happened to me. but WOW, when I saw the clarity again, it was unmistakable! Congrats man! Happy others are seeing it too!

[@poolhallshark]

Wow. This is totally insane 😃 I almost can't wait to get home to try this out. 👍👍👍

[@theVRpilot]

Yes! Let us me know!

[@chaosmusicstudio2710]

i could barely play this game in a lenovo explorer with a 1070... now i am playing with a heavely modded Reverb G1 with the same 1070.. in 4k... thanks to THE TRICK showed in THIS VIDEO. Not a joke. THANK YOU!!!!!!! You have a new subscriber

[@liazkam]

Bottom line: this absolutely works for stuttering. HOWEVER, no impact on clarity. My benchmark for the past 3 months was the Cub in the Yosemite bush trip. In the past I could see very visible stuttering in the cockpit. Especially on the bolts stuck on the yellow bar right in the middle of your field of view. The stutters are gone. Thank you very much. Now for the next challenge: the instruments are still very blurry. e.g. I cant read the word 'airspeed' right in front of me on the speedometer. I'd love to hear suggestions and comments

Hey thanks. There are a lot of bugs in this simulator. First of all my system is 3950x, 2070 super, 32GB, 1080p 60Hz screen and Oculus quest 2 working at 1.0x 72Hz. This hack works for me. It does not improve the frame rate at all and I still have terrible stutters but the clarity is amazing. It also does not have any negative impact on the FPS which I normally have (30-40fps low or ultra settings does not matter). It feels like another game. Moreover I have also tried to put the 2d render scale at 30% (yes sub VGA resolution) and it does the same trick! Funniest thing is when I return to 2d mode from VR my render resolution is still at least 1080P even when the setting shows 30%. I think this is also the case with 200%. But I have to say something. I have never been able to get 60fps in this game. Game is always limited by main thread it says. I tried low preset with 30% render scaling on 1080p! Still cpu bound. I know that this is a very complex simulation but guys hey I should be able to get 60fps somewhere.! I hope dx12 port of the game will clear all of those fundamental issues.

[@theVRpilot]

Hey! Wow, happy it helps with the clarity, question do you use the OTT, Oculus Tray Tool? Do you know what it is? I think if you download it, and remove adaptive gpu rendering to off, and set the refresh rate manually to 30hz you will most likely have a super smooth experience! I’ll link it below! Try it out! Let me know!

[@bangjoeofficial]

You and I seem to have identical machines and the same problem with stuttering. After trying EVERTHING from different videos. When I get some altitude the stuttering isn't as apparent but when I'm anywhere near the round it's like this drag/judder with everything else mostly pretty smooth. If you find anything please come back to this and let me know and likewise I'll do the same.

@@theVRpilot I prefer the built in uitility oculus debug tool. It has the same settings. I have tried all of those suggested tricks. It does not help. This is so far the biggest help. @BangJoeOfficial There is also one thing I have tried and gave me sudden performance boost last night Turning off hardware gpu scheduling, enabling above 4 g decode in bios and I have also enabled the re-size BAR in bios. I know gpu does not support it but anyway. It runs smoother now but I did not check it fully.

[@cptmrcalm]

Thanks for sharing. Tried it. Firstly it works so it didn't break anything. But its been so long since I've flown in msfs2020 I couldn't say. It took me ages to find the location at 7:00 min in and one thing is for sure- mine doesn't look like that! That a mod? Water for me was flat and lifeless. Florida mod? My specs are the same as yours.

[@theVRpilot]

Oh Woah! No Mod, Do you have PHOTOGRAMETRY Turned on, I think this setting is under data. Again no mod! Default MSFS, but double check that PHOTOGRAMETRY setting in MSFS. Also, happy to hear it didnt break anything. For those that dont see a huge improvement at least its consistent nothing changes. Still trying to learn why it works for some and not others.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

make sure photogrammetry setting is on in GRAPHICS settings. nothing should be flat and lifeless...should be vivid, spectacular.

[@cptmrcalm]

Yup. Its on. It looks good. Don't get me wrong. Just not as vibrant. Might be time of day and weather. Need to really check my settings. Think you've uploaded in another video your own settings havent you. Will need to look at that

[@pandemicplayers3695]

@@cptmrcalm He might have his waves on ultra settings, but the mirrored video in recordings is what you'd see on a monitor which is usually much sharper.

[@theVRpilot]

Pandemic player I actually think my waves or on high. Maybe ultra. But probably high. Now in regards to the image you see. I run desktop at 4k, OBS recording at 4K, to simply get the highest image quality available for these videos and I have to say when I take off my headset and look at the 55 inch tv in front of me, what I see is on the headset is what is in front of me. It’s flawless. Or if I watch this replay and put on the headset, not exaggerating this is how it looks for me. I do think the 200% render scale when it is in effect seems to give an even higher clarity for videos too, and again I’m confused and hope it doesn’t go away and more folks can enjoy it , but honestly overall what you see here is pretty much what I see! Hard to almost believe but I’ve struggled to get my recording quality true to what I see and this is about it!

[@mikemcgonegal1616]

Seems to work for me, even in 2D! Pretty dramatic improvement in quality, and 3-4 fps gain! Thanks for this!!

[@Daeva83B]

Interesting bug, still need to try it out. Now i just wonder if my pc can even enter the mainscreen if the renderscale is set to 200... One way to find out.. haha. Yesterday i reinstalled it completely, but haven't tested it out yet... The sun is shining! :D

[@theVRpilot]

I’ll be honest even my rig stutters a bit on the main menu. You can already be in the sim flying and try it. That was the first time I did it and was shocked by the clarity. But don’t let that turn you off from it, try to get into VR and see if you benefit from this too.

[@movingsocks579]

It worked lmao. This is incredible

[@theVRpilot]

Um crazy right? Lol

[@movingsocks579]

@@theVRpilot nuts

[@juanreyes2556]

Hi! It worked quite well on my pc, I just turned the Render up to 200, but today I will experience the other things! Ryzen 9 3900 RX 5700XT 32GB DDR4

[@gsxr1000jt]

Can you tell me how you got the reversers to work with this plane using honeycomb bravo quad? As well as the 747 too. Could you maybe make a quick how too on binding twin engine/prop/jets & quad engine? That would be great

[@theVRpilot]

John, This is a great tutorial for what you need. Grab some coffee, watch this video and take your time following his instructions and it will work great! kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3K5mpaMr6tjhtE

[@gsxr1000jt]

@@theVRpilot You were right! Thx for the link.. That was a great tutorial on bravo quadrant.

[@theVRpilot]

@@gsxr1000jt Awesome, happy to help.

[@rehil123]

Worked for me and off topic how do you get that single lens video I use the Nvidia Experience and get both lenses

[@theVRpilot]

Phil this is the 2nd videos but check because the first video is also linked. I explain how to record VR in HD like you see my videos. It is not native and requires a few steps, but it’s the only way as of now that records smooth and HD. Also if you are new to OBS look up obs HD recording video tutorial for 2021 on KZbin and they will help set up obs for you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ_CoWmmbqiNqck

[@manusilverliner9399]

Hi Jose, Thank you very much for this Easy Quick Win Tip. I've got some doubts before trying it and for me It works much better with an increase of smooth motion and the image is more clear (Cocpit panels for instance). This is really awesome how this improves VR mode gameplay ! I've Aurora R11 Alienware with RTX 3090 24GB and 64 GB RAM with 10th Gen Intel Core i9 10900KF (10-Core, 20MB Cache, 3.7GHz to 5.3GHz w/Thermal Velocity Boost). Render Scale set as 75% with Retroprojection Always On. Cheers from Paris

[@rix1769]

Very nice, thanks for the tip. :)

[@theVRpilot]

Happy to share it!

[@otterspocket2826]

This works for me (thanks Ben and community), but only if I'm already in VR mode when I make the edit. If I try to enter VR with 200 already set the Oculus 'home' is full of artifacts and too laggy to use the controllers or mouse. Once in VR though, I can switch between the sim and the menus to my heart's content, making further little tweaks. If you've tried this before and given up because of the artifacts/lagginess, hopefully entering VR before editing will help you too. It's a minor inconvenience to keep switching between 100 and 200 every time you switch between VR and pancake, but absolutely worth the effort. I'm running a Ryzen 7 5800X and RTX 3080 with a Quest 2.

[@JIMJAMSC]

" We are still trying to figure out how this works" = either it is turning something off or down. Usually its a placebo.

[@makersam37]

HOLY SHIT. I am not sure how or why this works , but my God. This is absolutely amazing.

[@theVRpilot]

Haha! Welcome to amazing! - again, it’s bananaaaaas lol. We need this for everyone! Do you mind sharing your pc specs, gpu + driver, headset etc? Trying to figure out why this isn’t working for everyone…. Thanks!

[@makersam37]

@@theVRpilot I have the Lenovo Legion Y 545 laptop(Costco special)I7 NVIDIA 1660ti 16 gigs of ram. I am using the Odyssey plus and both the thrust master Hotas and the Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo. My experience is flawless. I wish I could attach a through the lenses clip. I do use a 5 fan cooling deck cause she gets a little warm. For settings I keep most on medium with Ultra on windshield effects. I’m using driver 452.6 and set my open XR at 95( this is a sweet spot for me, 100 induces stutters, but 95 is perfect). Render scale is at 80. I set my internal fan speed to performance and have HG on.

[@makersam37]

@@theVRpilot I attached a short on my profile with the ICON A5. There is a definite clarity difference from the other clips.

[@johnkeegan6646]

Yes, it is better! However, I certainly do not understand how the PC and VR settings relate. Makes no sense to me, but I accept the quality difference!

[@theVRpilot]

John Great! Mind sharing you PC Specs, Gpu, Driver also, where did you purchase MSFS, steam or MS Store? Do you have HAGS and GAMEMODE on or off? Thanks for the feedback! Trying to find similarities for those that it works and those that it doesnt!

[@johnkeegan6646]

@@theVRpilot my specs are i7, rtx2070, hags off, game mode off, primarily High settings in the Sim. HP G2 VR headset. I have ordered a new tower unit with 3070.

[@paulphibbs5362]

G'day. Tried it and it works for me. I have an I9 10900k, 64gb, 3090. I'd like to know what other settings you use. OpenX, Nvidia, Windows, VR settings. My VR settings are a mixture of Ultra and High. I have OpenX set to 70% with no reprojection. Going for Performance in NVidia, Game Mode off, HAGS on in Windows. I did get some heavy stuttering when passing near Heathrow. Otherwise smooth flight, even over London.

[@theVRpilot]

Awesome Paul! I plan to do a detailed specs video coming up! I’ll try to pin my settings at the top of this video in a bit. Gotta eat some bbq ribs! Haha

[@ZockerBudeVR]

will try it now, im a little bit excited :D what for settings you used in openxr? can i run it with motion reprojection and 70% render scale in OpenXR? the only thing are to set 200% render scale in the pc settings? thanks!

[@theVRpilot]

I leave my openxr - preview runtime on, no custom resolution. But also I have a 3090. But still clearly not everyone has a 3090 and ppl are seeing increased clarity and reduced shimmering. And yes, that’s the only setting. I suggest start your vr flight before making the change. Lmk how it goes!

[@robinhood1577]

Only now have i seen this video, Better late than never! as i always say. Much better clarity indeed for myself! Thank You very much for this upload! Specs: Intel Core i9-9900X 10 Core HT @ 3.5GHz, and @ 4.40GHz Turbo. MSI X299 Raider Ultimate Force Motherboard 64GB Ram DDR4 @ 3600 Quad Channel 2 x MSI GeForce RTX 2080Ti (sli) M2SSD 1TB 3400Mb/s Hyper Liquid II medium kit (Rigid) Corsair AX 1200i 1200W 80+ Power unit

[@theVRpilot]

Awesome! Thanks for the feedback! Please share with your VR buddies lots of folk are really coming back to the dim after that clarity bump

[@robertmcmahon4549]

Didnt work for me on g2 with 3700x and 2080ti on x570 motherboard on 4k tv.if i come out of game and reload it does not save my resolution settings in normal mode,its always done this so dont know if thats a bug

[@theVRpilot]

Try to go all the way into a VR flight on the ramp or air and then make the change. Just curious.

[@robertmcmahon4549]

@@theVRpilot il try that,thanks

[@rolandgardiner3059]

This is amazing! I am running Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz 16GB ram using an Oculus rift S headset. I flew over Sydney with Orbx scenery and the clarity was amazing. Never been able to do that before, always stutter and blurry. Thanks for the tip! Will be very interested in why it works.

[@theVRpilot]

Awesome to hear Roland. I plan to have a follow up once I get more or proper information. Thanks for sharing your specs. What resolution desktop are you running? And what GPU?

[@laserob]

Holy shit, works like a charm, it’s a whole new game. HP Reverb G2, 9900k, 3090

[@theVRpilot]

Crazy! Happy to see folks are still finding this helpful. Thanks for sharing your specs. I wish it worked for everyone. I haven’t been able to tell what the key factor is to make it work.

[@ahmtmhmtbyglu]

I am surprised. Frankly speaking It didn't make any sense to me at first as the setting is completely seems unrelated but I give it a try anyway. And yes it is better. It is more apparent when looking at the letters. It is not a night and day difference so some ppl might not notice but it is there. It even works when switching the slider while in VR, flying and I am able to compare the difference. Thank you. Thumbs up! Did you send it to ASOBO. It makes me think of that there might be a bug. By the way how did you find this really? No way one can guess it. #G2/1080ti/32GB/6700K

[@theVRpilot]

Hey, happy it worked for you! Crazy right???? A friend found this in our Facebook group. The link is above in the comment section. He shared it with us. We tested it and we’re surprised. Also, yes Microsoft I believe is already aware of this. You can see a link also to the official Microsoft forum where this is being discussed. No guessing, more trial and error and luck? Hopefully we find the solution for those that it doesn’t work for!

[@Thermal694]

I wish this worked for me but it does nothing with amd 5800x nvidia 3080 valve index. :(

[@theVRpilot]

I think this last update broke it

[@Prowler2k]

Hi , just to let you know the 200% doesn’t always stick after a restart of the sim, ive found that after applying the change if you set your usercfg.opt to read only it keeps the setting.👍

[@theVRpilot]

Great point Mark! Thanks for that tip!

[@monsieurchevrebois9811]

How do you do that ? My 200% re-sets when I restart the sim.

[@Prowler2k]

It is in a different location depending on what version you have MS Store/Steam/CD/floppy disk ;) Brian you can locate the file here..... for Steam version: C:\Users\YourUsername\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft Flight Simulator for MS Store version: C:\Users\YourUsername\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache set it to read only in the file properties once you have applied the settings in this video, it goes without saying any other graphical changes you make to the sim after will not save unless you you uncheck read only first, hope that makes sense .

[@monsieurchevrebois9811]

@@Prowler2k Thanks Mark, I'll give that a go. One thing I did notice is that in VR with PC set to 200, the image in the menu screens seemed to be a bit "liquid" i.e. was rippling. I'm running a RTX 3080, 64Gb DDR4 RAM, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 and HP Reverb G2.

[@Prowler2k]

@@monsieurchevrebois9811 in your OpenXR developer tools for windows mixed reality app, goto the developer settings tab, do you have motion reprojection on? if so set it to disable and see if thats any better.

[@paulc2886]

I was skeptical, but it has made a significant improvement in the clarity of cockpit instruments in the Cessna 152, Beech 58 and the FlyingIron Spitfire Mk1X. I have not noticed any significant drop in clarity at medium distance either. I fly VFR at about 3-4,000 ft and it looks crisp and clear. I cannot see a down side. I use an Oculus Rift S.

[@CaribbeanSimPilot]

Are you using the tool kit only? Tweek Nvidia settings?

[@paulc2886]

@@CaribbeanSimPilot I have an AMD card

[@lsdzheeusi]

It works! Subbed!

[@HighOnYouDroneBoy]

WOW!! It WORKS! That is crazy, what a difference and no perceived FPS impact! Not sure what's going on but I hope Microsoft don't remove this bug! I reckon at least 50% improvement in clarity, can see for miles in the sim now woohoo!! :)

[@HighOnYouDroneBoy]

My spec : i7-6700, 16GB RAM. GTX1070, RIft S. Buttery smooth locked at 30fps with Oculus Tray Tool with FOV set to 0.70

[@theVRpilot]

@@HighOnYouDroneBoy awesome! Thanks for the update! Happy folks are finding this helpful. It’s such a game changer! Hard to Unsee! It’s brilliant!

[@HighOnYouDroneBoy]

@@theVRpilot Indeed! The mad thing is it actually runs better for me with the render scale set at 200. I wonder if this is some sort of future optimisation that has been left in by mistake? Combine this with the DirectX 12 update coming and it could be a total game changer for us on midrange systems! :)

[@RTRT-de8vz]

I have rtx2070super and this has made a massive difference especially the clarity of cockpit instruments.

[@bangjoeofficial]

Are you using Quest 2? If so what do you have you use for the oculus app settings, 70 80, 90, 120 hz and resolution?

[@RTRT-de8vz]

@@bangjoeofficial hi yes I’m using quest 2 and just have all the quest settings on default

[@gamesvrtech6666]

Hi, does anyone have an idea how I can reset the windows in VR (map, ATC) from following my view direction back to movable and placable with the mouse to a more convenient location somewhere in the cockpit? This was especially helpful for the bush trips having the navlog and the map available just around my lap. Thanks a lot!

[@TheArkuenon]

Can feel a slight improvement in both FPS and image clarity! Still not the best performance ever given my all-mighty build! Start having a feel that wifi 6 is nearly must at this stage XD Ryzen 5 1600, GTX 980Ti, Quest 2

[@mantasltu5811]

Hello i have the same GTX980TI and quest2 + intel i7 I have a little question, what settings you are using? defaults or you changed something in VR section? maybe something more else? thank you :3

[@TheArkuenon]

@@mantasltu5811 oh, was some time ago. As far as I remember I didn't change anything withing the game's vr settings, however I set Steam's render to 110% or so. Hope this helps

[@mantasltu5811]

@@TheArkuenon okey thank you, by the way did you had any lag issues? i was playing with default settings and it felt like 800x600 resolution, ground details was not so good, when i set to a higher resolution and other settings, my pc started to have big lags. With default settings all the view is jumping and first i thought it is Oculus tracking issue but not, without air Link traking works super. Maybe it's Router's problem :/

[@donc9751]

That's worth a like and sub!!! I saw Ben's post and tried it, but it didn't work for me but i may have done something wrong so will try it again today!!! My system is an i7-10700k, 3070 gpu, 32 gb ram and nvme drives with a Reverb G2 hmd. Whether it works or noy may have something to do with the version of windows 10 we have. My version is 19043.1052 and I just updated mine yesterday.

[@theVRpilot]

Don C thanks man! What is your desktop resolution, open xr settings and vr render scale set to?

[@donc9751]

@@theVRpilot OpenXR render scale is set at 70%. when you ask about my desktop resolution I assume you meant the Full screen resolution setting in MSFS is set at 1920x1080 now but I just made that change. Before I had it set to 800x600 having heard the higher res just draws power away from the cpu needlessly. Display mode is set to Windowed. Not sure if that matters? Oh and in VR in msfs its set at 100%, until I attempted to change it to 200%. That made a really choppy and everything I tried doing like change or move around in the menu's was even affected negatively the 1st time. that improved a bit after exiting then running the sim again but still wasnt an improvement. I'm not giving up yet though!!!

[@mikVR]

and settings for VR is still the same? 70 percent on openXR and so on?

[@theVRpilot]

Correct, technically you dont have to TOUCH anything else.

[@samplissimo3391]

I wonder why no one from asobo or flight sim crew answered to this in the thread in the official flight sim forum

[@theVRpilot]

Right??? Lol. Man, we have been left in the dark

[@miked5562]

Hey, thought just came to me. Weird lol Are you doing this experiment while also doing your 4x DSR desktop trick, too?? Because I was just doing it with the monitor set to base resolution and wasn't seeing a difference

[@theVRpilot]

Yes, but others are running 1080p

[@RetiredFE]

Intel Core i7-9700KF Processor 3.6GHz; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6; 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM; 500GB SSD. Rift S, I see a definite improvement in clarity, however it is totally unusable as when I turn my head there is nothing but black and it takes a few seconds for it to catch up. Don't know how to fix that. Otherwise it would definitely be an improvement.

[@SimHangerFS]

Thanks, I will give it a try 👍

[@theVRpilot]

For sure!

[@ariholm100]

Clarity, it's not that clear as on your's videos, but still better than before. But stutters are gone ;) And in horizon where the color of the sky change white to blue no flicker anymore. 3070, Q2 and newest drivers.

[@theVRpilot]

Oh woah, thanks for the report!!!

[@risingphoenix7633]

Thx for the post will have to try this as I deal with stutter and def need to fix!

[@silvera-]

Hey Jose! Just wondering what is your oculus settings, hz and slider? I am just curious to find why it's not working for me. Figuring out what's different.

[@theVRpilot]

Fico, I have not used this YET with my oculus quest 2 but was able to guide my dad to it and he runs stock msfs, he did have quest 2, oculus great to set to 30 hz, adaptive scaling off. I’ll ask my buddy Ben, the one who found it what if any settings he changed.

[@belgeode]

I am wondering if it makes a difference if you are in fullscreen or windowed mode. I notice you are in fullscreen. I am in windowed mode. While mine DOES look pretty clear, I do not notice in the Rift S that it is like a night and day clarity difference for me. It is very smooth though.

[@theVRpilot]

It is CONFIRMED that both work. But I am curious and need to test it myself and see if anything noticeable changes.

[@fede_dale]

Rift S here and for me it's the same. Not gret difference.

[@DoubleBruhMoment]

Did not work for me, significantly reduced performance. On a Valve Index Steamvr with a Radeon RX Vega and a i9-9900k Edit: Slight performance boost but very nice visual quality

[@bryanliggett9411]

This seemed to really help me I have a GTX 1070 and i7 chip

[@theVRpilot]

Wow, great to hear! Happy New Year!

[@OkamiNoken]

I've arrived to your channel looking for some help info to configurate fs2020 and dcs with my new rtx 3080 ti. Absolutely I'll try this trick when arrive at home. I have almost same PC specs than yours. Just the Gpu it's different. I would be very grateful if you could share your settings on fs2020 and dcs. I'm trying some but for some reason both games crash. A getting 😊

[@theVRpilot]

Oh damn. Ok both crash? What’s your full pc specs?

[@OkamiNoken]

@@theVRpilot yeap, but only with those two flight sim. I7 9700k,32 gb ram, rtx 3080 ti, 2x mv2 512gb. Corsair 850w. 100% scale in steamvr and basic vr settings in fs2020 even in huge cities crash 😅 I don't know... 🤷‍♂️

[@hellsummon]

This still works...amazing

[@cookiebob_]

I *think* it worked for me, certainly seemed smooth but I can't say how much smoother. No sharper. i7 4770k 4.4Ghz GTX1080 Quest 2

[@theVRpilot]

A few have found it some how smoother, but most see the shimmering go away from edges and increased sharpness. Thanks for the feedback!

[@aDutchy1975]

Awsome, it worked, G1 without a restart.

[@theVRpilot]

Another win! Epic!

[@Votingalloy-me8hi]

I cant get in the game. TO start with what shall I do? My VR just laggs.

[@Lonsome1223]

This worked for me ok, but my head set a Oculus Quest 2 bombed out after a while with a black screen. The game still ran ok with no CTD. I7and a RTX 2070.

[@theVRpilot]

Interesting. How about now? Any update?

[@Lonsome1223]

@@theVRpilot It now seems to have settled down with no more problems. This definitely makes a difference to my experience in the sim. Thanks.

[@Pvt_PandaPear]

No change for me. steam vr is shwoing 28ms lag all red in both cases. valve index, 3070, i7 10700 @ 4.9GHz

[@theVRpilot]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@akdavis3450]

It did work for me. Noticed a big jump in clarity. RTX 3090, G2.

[@theVRpilot]

If it Goes away, let me know. Mine did but came back. Also the setting doesn’t stay if u exit MSFS.

[@akdavis3450]

I did find I had to set it again when I came back into it. I found it still looked really good again though.

[@elguindy]

I know I am only seeing this now thanks for the great video I do not see this option in my MSFS2020 did it got replaced with something else . I appreciate the assistance .

[@michaelwilliamson6061]

This did not work for me , it took forever to load and turned the FS into a slide show... I am running a 1080.

[@theVRpilot]

Ok William, do this. Load into VR first before making any changes. Start your flight then hit escape, change pc render scale while in VR to 200, exit save and this should prevent the FS slide show due to doing this in 2d. Lmk if that helps.

[@michaelwilliamson6061]

@@theVRpilot Thanks, that worked...

[@theVRpilot]

@@michaelwilliamson6061 great! What are your pc specs and which headset you are using? Also do you have the latest nvidia drivers installed?

[@razalom66]

Fired up the Sim in the JF Arrow to make sure i remembered what it looked like. Exited the Sim and added the 200% under PC and sadly couldn't see a difference. 5800x CPU, 3090, 32 GB Ram and reverb g2. Think is the sim looked good before. Turned off the 200% and tried again and still looked the same. Sorta disappointed lol

[@theVRpilot]

Ugh sorry, trying to figure why not everyone is seeing it. How would you rate your clarity overall? Images look crisp now?

[@razalom66]

@@theVRpilot Has always looked pretty crisp and sadly noticed no difference with it at 200% or 100% in PC settings

[@4secsharkmr352]

Hallo Jose, thank you very much for the tipp. I forgot to mentioned this at my last post regarding this performance tipp. I tried that yesterday with different settings, but I really don' have recognised a difference with ASW on. I got stutters with ASW ON and automatic. Then I tested it with ASW OFF and surprise there were no stutters anymore. May be that is imagination or not. I have had no stutters with ASW OFF. That is strange. I flown the H135 in the alps with 10m Alti3D mesh from Taburet + Habashi's Seasons. I can tell you there are a lot trees in that region. Normally that produces stutters, but strange ASW off = no stutters. 🤣 may be it is placebo or not. I will put the slider to the right far far very far right. I feel better then. For security reasons only, you know🤣 Take care

[@brent4770]

Do you have your other settings in a video? I have a 3090 and Reverb G2 also.

[@theVRpilot]

Brent, I think a few videos back I do. But I can recap here. Open XR latest build, (something was updated yesterday FYI), MSFS updated, NVIDIA updated to what is current as of today. Most MSFS settings on HIgh a few on ultra. Open XR Reprojection off, I can’t stand it lol. Latest runtime preview on. Custom resolution off. In game VR render scale set to 100%. And again like this video PC render scale to 200%. Lmk if I can help with anything else!

[@nashfan1000]

Will I be able to use my i7 computer 32 GB Ram with a 2060 RTX super video card? Is the RTX 2060 super good enough? Was looking at HP Reverb G2 headset thank you for info

[@worm777]

IS there anything that removes the propeller or fixes it so when reprojection kicks in everything doesn't look super wavy looking through the propeller.

[@hawkfish3749]

Definitely not snake oil. It worked for me. Reverb g2. rtx3090 and amd ryzen 9 5900x. Gigabyte X570 Aorus wife. Thank u.

[@theVRpilot]

Hell yeah! Awesome! How would you describe it looks now?

[@hawkfish3749]

@@theVRpilot crystal clear.

[@Y0Y0]

No any difference for me on HP Reverb G2. I think its placebo effect ;) but if it works for you why not! Rander scale on PC settings is for 2D screen but who knows, maybe it change something for someone in VR too. For me, not.

[@theVRpilot]

Thanks for the feedback! Try to go fully into VR and while in VR make the change. See if that does anything. Also, Can you also share your the rest of your pc specs, windows resolution, gpu driver and if you got the game in steam VR or Microsoft store? I’m trying to see if I can find a pattern for those who aren’t seeing it. Thanks!

[@Y0Y0]

@@theVRpilot I checked both (so in VR mode and outside) to change something = the same. I have spec similar to you. i9 9900K, RTX 3090, 32 RAM, MSFX is from MS Store. VR Rander scale in MSFS - 70% (so about 2200pxt, natove for HP Reverb G2). Driver 466.63. Hope it helps.

[@sampesonen8666]

No noticable differance for me using a 3090, 5950x and quest 2 through wired link. I wonder if the version of open xr runtime in use has anything to do with it. I use the steam vr open xr runtime since it generally performs better than the oculus one.

[@MARCO-mf3or]

The oscillation and vibrations look annoying because it's not realistic I wish it was injected with some fixes

[@NatendoSwitch]

you just earned a sub!

[@danielgdlv]

how do you manke your PC screen not to split on mirroring... i cannot stream my screen cause it looks double? can you please share?

[@theVRpilot]

I made a video called “how to record MSFS VR HD”, check it out.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

should i still do this trick even with the new world update 5 that came out just today (or whenever it officially hit)?

[@theVRpilot]

Great question, honesty, give it a try. I did but, not sure if it worked. (It looked great) I just am not sure if I saw a big change.