5 Tell Tale Signs Of Narcissistic Collapse

[@Lyrielonwind]

I hope people around them can finally see them as they always have been and restore the memory of those who were smeared and humiliated by them.

[@lesliekupchanko5001]

I agree Christina. By Faith. Amen

[@Lyrielonwind]

@@lesliekupchanko5001 🙏

[@betterlatethannever7337]

Recovery is something victims do by themselves for themselves. Others can tumble to the fact that a narcissist is difficult but usually can't see what the narcissist did to an individual victim. It's ok. We in the KZbin narcissist awareness community understand what happened to you, and we rejoice in and support your recovery.

[@noras.9774]

I understand that narcisist person is hopeless, but if is relativley old, and he is our friend, we can’t help him at all? I follow many, many video about narcisism, but still I want to believe there is a way to help him, because is very intelligent person, he had a big, big trauma in his life: his mother suicided when he was 16 years old and he founded her and go with her to hospital. He had a narcisistic father, etc. He loved deeply his first wife, who lefted him for another man,he became narcisistic with the second wife, unbeliveble transformation!!!!

[@someones_daughter_]

Right in the Bull's-eye

[@lindadavis9789]

I was married to a narcissistic man for 28 yrs. This collapse of a narcissist really hits home. I took care of the narc at home the last few yrs of his life while he was on hospice. Watching him go from an arrogant demanding person to a worse paranoid and more hateful being was so sad. I had always hoped he would mellow and ask for forgiveness and try to realize all the damage he had caused. Instead he kept up with being demanding and never once was grateful for anything that was done for him, or remorse for the hell he put me through the yrs. He truly was an empty vessel.

[@drewb5845]

The more I learn about them the more I see how dangerous they are. I need to get out.

[@lindarosealot]

Don't say it, do it, don't waste one more day of your life. They don't change I promise you !

[@joannvanarnam2267]

You can learn from a distance. GET OUT NOW you can do this ❤

[@valeriemcintyre3219]

Be strong, there is help out there to do it safely

[@emilyl.771]

I have witnessed the descent you describe first hand. The indulgent and risky behavior, the excessive consumption of alcohol and pornography. It was as though he was holding onto me for survival like a life raft, but he tried to pull me down with him. When I realised he couldn’t be saved, I saved myself instead.

[@dorothyesked3012]

My ex had an superior attitude which meant know one could tell him the choices he was making were bad. Which led to him loosing everything his apartment, job, and car I saw the handwriting on the wall and stopped talking to him best decision I ever made.

[@LR-yu3mx]

I saw it. We took the narc to 3specialist doctors. Not one could find anything wrong with the failed narc. The narc becomes like a 6months old baby. Just sitting around in a bundle, playing victim, watching Television. all day. Every advert, even children's program... Mina Moo.... Sat like that for 3 years, then died due to lack of exercise and not eating.

[@samxsara]

Exactly what happened to me

[@maribethjergens3406]

I have witnessed this over and over

[@lilfairycupcake]

They destroy everything, everyone, they come in contact with, including themselves.

[@crptnite]

The messed up part is that the Narcissists actually are doing these things to innocent, unsuspecting people, this is why they always accuse others of these things 👀

[@purplestars5410]

There's more to it than that. I'd say the number one reason is probably projection. They accuse their partners of what they do or would do given the opportunity. But other reasons; people with personality disorders are also afraid of true connection and intimacy so they frequently act in ways that sabotage relationships. There is also the constant fear of abandonment...the "ill leave you before you leave me" is a constant scenario played out over and over again. Remember, disordered personalities always come paired with maladaptive coping behaviors to deal with chronic internal insecurities.

[@crptnite]

@@purplestars5410 and? If they're the ones who are actually "mentally ill," then why should we be giving them a "pass" and allowing them to remain in positions of power? No. They ALL need to be put under strict medical observation until such time that they can behave civilly in Society.

[@purplestars5410]

@@crptniteYou're completely missing it. And I get why. You're coming from an angry and hurt place. Seeing a damaged person simply as a "monster" makes you feel better. But has it actually helped you any? Have you healed from your past by holding onto that? Explanations for their behavior aren't excuses nor are they justification. Part of healing from our pasts is understanding the why behind their behavior. Otherwise there are many who will blame themselves for it for years if not decades. And there are people who will continually be ideal romantic targets for Narcissists because they refused to look at their own choices that led them into those relationships and stayed. They cheated, you stayed, why? They were controlling, you stayed, why? They were pathological liars,you stayed, why? People, whether they are a perpetrator or victim of abuse (or both in some instances) need some type of theraputic intervention.

[@crptnite]

@@purplestars5410 no, i'm not missing anything and i'm not coming from an angry or hurt place: i've worked through all of that. What i'm referring to is called ACCOUNTABILITY. It's time those who've been actively conducting this assault on the rest of Society started taking some, on an individual as well as a Global Scale 👀

[@kirabarsmith9353]

@@crptnite Agreed, accountability is essential for decency to exist.

[@dandelion1598]

Severe projection! Blaming me for the results of their own decisions.

[@ashleykathryn9038]

It doesn't stop, we've been divorced six months and he's still blaming me for things going wrong in his life. Talking about me behind my back to my parents lol

[@ritamccormick5244]

Their rage is so intense, you don't recognize them. They let anger build up to the point of explosion. When this happens out of the blue and from the smallest event, they lash out. Later never apologize and act like it didn't happen. Meanwhile, since the rage came out, this leaves space for another time. It may not happen soon, but it eventually will. They can't handle stress because they are so depressed and desperately need to release thei built up anger. They know what they did, and try hard to forget it. They see no need to apologize. They can't forgive people, and just want you to forgive them.

[@MJ-qb5ph]

You know my sister in law so well!

[@awomen1072]

You've met my husband then.poor manchild that he is.

[@sharafanabatrisyia6955]

That describes my neighbours whom I don't know at all around the apartment

[@johndlong7117]

Exactly, facts

[@tamarap387]

Yep!

[@joshuaanzalone2060]

They become obsessed when they can no longer control you

[@beemonroe4330]

Unhinged and hilarious 🤣

[@truthiseverything9511]

@@beemonroe4330 I think it’s fucking sad. I’m grateful to be me instead.

[@beemonroe4330]

@@truthiseverything9511 they’re pitiful, but also hilarious after you heal. Keep being beautiful you.

[@mdcdrmw]

My narc has been unhinged until he went to jail over the weekend.

[@beemonroe4330]

@@mdcdrmw look at God‼️🤣

[@chrisostling805]

I am an Empath and grew up in a family of narcissists, I went NC 6 years ago and am much better off for it. My son still sees them, but he is cutting way back on how often because they are going through the collapse. My mother, the worst narc that you could ever imagine has not had a single friend for many years now and though my father has friends, the only reason they visit is for the alcohol. Let them stew in their hate and bitterness, I am disabled now, and they absolutely hate me for it when it was them who pushed me to work myself until my body was destroyed. I am doing very well without them; I live on my sailboat at a very nice marina with my Siamese cat and play Bass Guitar in an up-and-coming Metal/Blues Band and we are writing all of our own original music, I also use the skills I learned over the years and teach friends how to repair their own cars. trucks and boats. The only way to deal with a narc is going no contact period.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

It sounds like you have recovered well!

[@ManuelAlvarez-bc6du]

You're heroic my friend. I have found that spiritually aware people with good souls tend to reincarnate in very psychologically destructive environments. I'm happy to see that you escaped the emotional prison and are nurturing your creativity.

[@hajnalkajuhasz5833]

I completely agree, as my mother is a full-blown overpowered narc, as she ages getting bitter, as she runs "dry" on supplies... No contact is the only solution. I am still deoending on her, having left without any support from an early age, and have chosen my narc mom instead of psychopaths men, or sociopaths, a woman is aleays much more exposed, being the child of a marc than a man bec of the sexual role... And yes, art is also an escape path from that for me as well, singing jazz/blues and painting, and dance as well.

[@mvbigmagic4048]

That is our goal too. To be a liveaboard. My narcissistic mother thought she could bait me with her four-bedroom broken down hoarded house in one of the most expensive states in the Union, with super-high property taxes. Um.... no. Financial independence is key. She sought to make me quit my job, and become her free unpaid servant. I have kids to take care of, whom she cares nothing about. She even forgot their birthdays. But she called my husband when she wanted my signature to get money. That's all she thinks about. Narcissistic collapse is real. My dad's was triggered when he realized I loved my kids more than I loved him. It is normal and natural to love your kids. He never truly loved me. And so he couldn't fathom why I couldn't just up and leave my job and go back to being their "kid." When I lived with them, I was their unpaid servant. They didn't realize that kids grow up and they have to have their own lives. Sailing saved me.

[@Ambrode]

What if you were actually a narcissist in a family of empaths?

[@awalk5177]

It is not so easy to witness a narcissist collapsing because in their depression they hide away like an injured dog, snapping at anyone who goes near. All their past failures come home to roost as they have alienated all their supply and their bitterness shows as they get more ugly.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

Good description!!!!

[@tamarap387]

My stepdad to a T

[@GordonMacdonald-vg7sz]

Oh I found it very easy. It's called karma .

[@TheHajdu99]

What a pathetic, weak, and miserable way to live. They are complete monsters.

[@FroggyFrog9000]

monsters they are.

[@grantaugustyniak6667]

That’s why a lot of Aging Narcs move away - they cannot handle the outcome of their failures to the people that once knew them.

[@timothywarden8281]

Thank you so much for pointing this out. My mother moved my family away from so many relatives which later in life I found to be such wonderful, kind and successful relatives, quite the opposite of my mother. My sister like my mother refused to accept my children, such a pity for all who have been subjected to such behavior. These people are worse then Street drugs.

[@mvbigmagic4048]

My father was a narcissist. He kept getting fired. :( We moved so much before I was ten years old, (6 times at least), that people always ask me if my father was military.... he wasn't. Just a narc. LOL!

[@nickinicolesmith9372]

Wow

[@aj02517]

Their NPD eventually forces their supply to go no contact. The very definition of madness.

[@kingbee9778]

The parasite will eventually kill the host if it does not escape.

[@williamfletcher3440]

Indeed

[@user-uq6ic8pw8x]

Currently I am on no contact...

[@EvaEva-lf3ww]

Summery for myself : 1.Complete withdrawal 2. Bitterness, hyper irritable, worst bitter form of themselves 3. Euphoric remembering of all days,talking a lot about it to have supply . 4. Compulsive behaviour intensifies Extreme form of prosecutary paranoia. Super vulnerable and dilusional . Thank you Danish.

[@april110]

Looks like this is me

[@karinbernhardt8747]

@@april110 Probably not in the core April. You try some things and you are ending with selfhate?! We better RUN. !!!! But if you are a narc, seek help. You never will be happy in your life. Greetings from Amsterdam. karin 👍✌🍀🌷🌼💜

[@april110]

@@karinbernhardt8747 There is no help I dont think anybody can help

[@amisi9490]

Thank you

[@katja6332]

When my mom lost her (unbased) lawsuit against me, she was so embarrassed publicly, because she was caught lying and of course she smeared my name to everyone, but then the truth came out, that her ego couldn't handle it. She was so embarrassed that she stopped taking her heart medicine and died by cardiac arrest a few months later. I found it out later when I cleaned her apartment and saw her untouched medicine for her heart.. I counted it and she stopped after the lost lawsuit. She was a nurse and new what she was doing and my uncle said to me that she lost her will to live after the failed lawsuit. Her final toxic collapse was so crazy, that she was incredible delusional and thought by lying to her lawyer, she can control everything, but her case was based on crazy lies and she of course thought that she'll able to fool anyone, which she couldn't. When she finally realized that her own lawyers knew that she would lose the lawsuit but filed it anyway in her name bc they got paid not for winning but for representing her, she was completely broken. A shark woman got outsmarted by shark lawyers 😅 It's sad how they end up getting worse with age. In a way she killed herself (stop taking her needed medicine) and lost her will to live. They can't handle reality and shame kicks in when they're losing control over their fake narratives 😮 I met a woman, whose narcissistic father killed himself when his second wife filed for divorce and claimed all the money back he took from her and won the case. The narcissistic collapse is real.

[@nancysavard4322]

I'm sorry you had to deal with this insanity. It's as if when they can't control us in life they'll get (or believe they'll get) control in death.

[@pramodjondhale381]

Conflict is the food of the narcissist.. They always look for conflict of somekind in their relationship..

[@Clevelandsteamer324]

They can’t tolerate being bored because it makes them self reflect. They must do anything to stir up the pot

[@nickinicolesmith9372]

My mom

[@juliettehasenbar9211]

That was enlightening indeed. Yes, I've witnessed the paranoia and thought it was weird and the uncontrollable bursts of anger that became more and more unpredictable and over the top so that he went into hibernation to hide them. I had no idea at that point that I was dealing with a narcissist. I told my friends that he was "a very weird man".

[@hhsg11]

‘My’ narc is having a collapse where I’m concerned, he knows I see right through him and won’t let him away with anything now, I either answer back and tell him his failings or I stay silent and let him rant and rage with nothing coming back to him. I have been secretly recording the arguments for a couple of months now so I can take notes, he has no idea, and I just let him yell abuse so I have proof of what he has said if I need it. I am driving him insane as he can’t control me, not that he ever really did, I let him think he did and went along with only what I wanted to do. We have sold the house we bought 3 months ago and waiting on a moving out date and I can’t wait. He thinks I’m still desperately in love with him although we are hardly on speaking terms. He can’t stand no conversation, so his mobile is dinging from the minute he gets up until he goes to sleep with WhatsApp messages or he phones friends (all ex girlfriends, he has no male friends) so he has someone to talk to. I heard him earlier saying that he had sent the same message to a few people to see who would phone him first. He truly is pathetic, he can’t sit still, up and down constantly doing stuff so he’s distracted from his real self, will be glad to see the back of him.👍👍

[@KosmicN.]

That’s exactly what I did when I was untangling myself and that is exactly what he did. I’m like dude, you must be dumb to think I’m in love with you when my actions show the opposite.

[@hhsg11]

@@KosmicN. they are so full of themselves as it’s worked every single time in the past, until me. The exes all still believe everything was their fault or he would still be with them because he told them that. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️. When he wanted to start an argument with me, he would come into the living room from the kitchen and ask if I was actually going to help with dinner or sit on my ass, and my reply (with a few seconds letting him believe I was thinking about it) I would say ‘I think I will just sit on my ass’ which would set him off on a red faced rage of abuse. The best bit of advice I can give any one is LISTEN to every word they say in an argument as they are giving their future plans away and don’t realise it. He’s practically told me what his next move was going to be as he had to get it all out there and then. I actually laugh now at how ridiculous and pathetic he really is. He still tells everyone (who wants to listen) that he is a wonderful, caring, loving, tolerant, generous person and every woman would believe how lucky they were to have him…at the age of 65 and having to start all over again, that chat up line is laughable. 🤮🤮🤮

[@susanq6398]

Lucky you to get away

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

I am glad you shared about him always being busy. This was my dad and I never understood why he was always coming to my home to do something. I did not want him around and told him so. He did not listen, so I moved out.

[@hhsg11]

@@RapturereadyforJesus I’m away 3 months and life is so quiet. I’m still waiting on him taking me to court for defamation as I told the neighbours about him as he was starting to get scary. He won’t come after me as everything was recorded and now he knows it, plus too much would come out. Never let these little weasels beat you, he will wish he never set eyes on me plus he destroyed himself in the process. In the end he cancelled the sale of the house and bought me out. He needed me to help him get it, so now he’s stuck with a mortgage and had to sell all his shares to give me my money back. He can’t even afford his tax bill, I heard him tell his accountant that he will take the fine and get it paid asap. Not so bloody smart now. He told me time and time again that I wasn’t clever enough for him…I bet he regrets that, because I showed him I was more than clever. 👍

[@Reafawaz]

I have witnessed it and have barely survived the collapse as a spouse at the receiving end. I hope for self awareness for narcissistic individuals but comorbidities like alcoholism make it a very unlikely possibility. It’s truly a sad disorder that malignantly distroys those involved. Primarily the closest victim, and their children

[@Reafawaz]

Being enabled by a social or family construct furthers the unlikely outcome of self awareness, accountability and change for these individuals on the spectrum of NPD. Radical acceptance and conformity seem the only options in managing relationships by sacrificing risks to your self worth, health, and well being.

[@karenkennedy6331]

This is my husband now! He is older, and the last years have not been kind to him, retired, mobility limited, no one likes to be around him. I am to blame for it all, plus I won’t take his crap anymore, and he quit therapy saying he has no problems. He is so depressed! No goals, not happy, He is so lost, not acting rationally, behavior does not make sense! Black and White thinking! Other people think he has dementia! His thinking is so weird.

[@susanq6398]

Mine is heading that way. Since retiring he can focus his energy on me and stupid little things. Irrational anger over small things, depression as no one wants to be near him.

[@allanwhite1533]

Yep, I witnessed virtually psychotic paranoia in a former narc colleague of mine. He was never able to secure substantial employment for years after earning his MA. His arrogance, entitlement, and frequent antagonism alienated colleagues and professionally burnt a lot of bridges for him. After a number of years of post- grad school unemployment, his state of mind deteriorated immensely. Eventually, he was thinking that his neighbors were trying to poison his dogs and that some of them were also following and monitoring him everywhere he went. Needless to say, I eventually had to end all contact with him.

[@lillumination5388]

Right on, thanks! With aging and being left and divorced, they slip into a self-destruction. For 12 years out of 28 married, I lived in his birth town (I left after divorcing him by now), and I made sure the word gets around about his horrific abuse and domestic violence, so he is left alone, at 65, and is rotting away in his mental derailment and physical deterioration. In and out of the psychiatric ward, heavily in therapy, but... Karma.

[@blessedstar747]

Its important to secretly record them or copy any paperwork of the things they have done. You may need it later if you have to go to court. They will make up lies and take you to court. You need proof in court.

[@truthiseverything9511]

Yes. I made dates notes and took pictures.

[@blessedstar747]

@@truthiseverything9511I won every court case. He lied but had no proof. I had all the proof voicemails, recording, texts,emails, and paperwork. They do things out of impulse. They don't think about consequences. They don't like to lose. 19 months narc free and no contact.

[@newtoncooper4085]

Yes, the truth can be backed up by physical evidence and corroborating witnesses. Their lame fabrications fall flat in front of a judge.

[@seameology]

If your narc had been completely out of your life for two decades, STILL keep it. I divorced in 1994, our kids were adults in 2008 we live a thousand miles apart, apparently. I've heard, he's now trying to locate me! He's been married twice since!

[@meagankhang2341]

I can see how they get away with their dirt. They present their self as weak, vulnerable, sweet and innocent to the new people in their life (just like that image they presented to you in the beginning) and many times it's right at the time they've began to gas light you or another old victim whose finally caught on to them. And they tell the new all of these horrible things the old victim has been doing to them (all lies and most likely, all the bad they claim you did, really was their doing against you) and this new person instantly feels compassion and sympathy and even maybe having thoughts of avenging for the narcissist and instantly developes an attitude towards you or the old victim. (some have hurt, and some have killed for the narcissist behind the lies) If you ever wonder why you get dirty looks from some of the co workers or others in the circle that you dont even know, dont be surprised if your narcissist hasn't come in contact with them and made them one of their allies and you their worsed enemy. This is a serious matter and I personally think that anyone diagnosed with this disorder should be forced to wear an identifiable bracelet. I urge Danish and all other specialist to write whomever has the power and authority to make that a medical law once a mental patient is diagnosed with narcissism. We're dealing with a dangerous person and I believe this would be a way of disarming them. Reveal the monster. Prevent the unsuspecting world from becoming victim to their destruction. They only see their doctor 1 a month, and I'm sure they're on their best behavior, but we, the unsuspecting world are dealing with these monsters everyday when they're at their worst.

[@B-Nia]

👍👍👍

[@rosethorne9155]

Thank you for these eye-opening videos. My narcissistic mother is a hoarder. She has driven away virtually all our relatives, first by acting like she was too good to allow them to visit her big, fancy house, and now because the house is in such a disgusting state that nobody WANTS to visit. She also collects furniture and home decor, and nobody is allowed to ever move or even clean anything. Even things from thrift or antique shops, that come coated in dirt and grime...She will scream at you for hours and then spend the next week muttering foul things and even threats at you, if you try to clean up. She has gotten exponentially worse since I was a girl, and shows no signs of slowing down or stopping. My sister, my father, and I have all tripped and fallen numerous times on the junk she has piled up in the house. She uses random things to block off doorways to stop the dogs from going where she doesn't want them to, which is usually any room she's not in. And those people who werent good enough to visit her fancy house? Most of her 7 sisters will no longer speak to her, since she keeps gossiping with other people's business. Some of my aunts will only call the house when they know she is not home, or who only send me text messages now, because my mother is so toxic they cannot deal with her any more... Thank you for providing this space to discuss this. I apologize if this comment is too long or wordy. I have only told 3 people in my life how severe the situation really is.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

You have to let her go emotionally. I know it is difficult not to worry about her and the hoarding situation. There is no way she is going to change.

[@rosethorne9155]

@@RapturereadyforJesus Oh, I know. I've known for over 10 years now. It doesn't even make me sad anymore--just fills me up with this horrible bitterness and rage. I can't stand her. Sometimes I feel like a bad person and a bad daughter because of the feeling, but it persists. The reason I mention the hoarding is because I still live in this house.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

@@rosethorne9155 and yet, you are not a bad daughter!

[@Fonn-ig1hc]

Her face is ok but we need to put a bag on her personality!😅 lol. The yelling and playing the victim is too much for others to endure.❤

[@kritikaroy5058]

I started to see this collapse in my ex. It's actually their karma which has started haunting them. Their own bad decisions are coming to haunt them. It's freeing and feels good honestly.

[@KathleenCrist-f1e]

My husband’s projections got really got out of control, he started to get delusional with his paranoid.

[@atradventuresoutside8621]

😢my ex girlfriend is going through this. I knew she had narcissistic tendencies but didn’t realize how bad it can get. We were in love and when she slipped away i became her number one enemy even though her trauma had nothing to do with me. It so sad to see the person that i love hate me so much.

[@Lawrenceshow_me]

👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆Secret and Lies kills relationships .No matter how careful you are, you will get caught.What's done in darkness always comes to light I met a Guy with legal & education systems to gain access into your partner calls and texts messages remotely including deleted message without them been notified. It helped in my divorce and custody cases msg him anytime.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

They always hated us. That truth hurts deeply. I still can’t acknowledge that I was so hated by my parents as I love my children so much.

[@avivabillington5514]

100%!! In my experience, narcissitic people can't handle being exposed so bring out that you're onto them & confront them about it..

[@amirulzamri7833]

I had someone like your grandfather, it was my late aunt. Everyone thinks she's nice and whatever however my mom always badmouthed her because she always spoke of getting berated by her. Whenever there's a family reunion everyone always wanted my mom to join but she always refused. She just doesn't want to be treated like a child constantly berated. In her final days, my late aunt was bedridden, alone, passed away just like that. I do feel a bit sad but it's the fate of a narcissist. Not until that point I realized my mom was just abused.

[@williamfletcher3440]

So your mom was the narcissist

[@amirulzamri7833]

@@williamfletcher3440 Update, they both are. After the great aunt died her son harassed me because I'm not taking after my dad servitude toward their family. The son is 50yo+ and I'm only 30 this year. I made the comment before my dad died, now he's dead all of the abuses hidden basically got out like a whale carcass got gutted in the stomach. I never realized my father was the scapegoat of the family. Everyone loved him, it was my mom made him the villain. So basically my late great aunt was the grandiose narcissist and the nmomster is the vulnerable narcissist. It sucks I had to lose my father to find out this way.

[@JustMeandMykittyKats-kl8tp]

@@williamfletcher3440 No! her mother was the victim! Learn to read. I too grew up with a narcissist sister, this bitch narcissist always belittle me in front of anyone to make herself feel better about herself. She is 4'7 tiny and had a bad case of pimples and not pretty at all, she was ugly in the inside and out. And she always belittle other people including strangers. I have also had narcissists boyfriends, I now know all the signs of narcissists people and I choose to walk away. No one should have to take this abuse from anyone.

[@ladyv5655]

Wow! This is my mother to a tee! This explains why she tells the same damn stories ad nauseum, in which she is always the smartest, most beautiful person ever. I can see she has been collapsing for years now and I am positive I contributed to it by Gray rocking her mercilessly for at least the last 20 years. But no pity, after the misery she inflicted on me in my childhood and youth.

[@MsGcart]

This video was very helpful as I’m pretty sure my narc mom is going thru this right now. She’s an old lady and her kids and grandkids are NC or LC. I hate it for her but she did it to herself as if the innocent kids she had and abused emotionally verbally financially physically would not become adults one day and make the tough decision that no matter what anybody does or the allowances we make for her she just causes drama grief and anxiety all the time. I just cannot try to love her anymore or pretend that I do. NC is sooo much easier than LC. thank you Danish for sharing your own experience with narc family member.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

We can still love and care, but it has to be from a distance.

[@Tyndalic]

My ex started drinking and stopped working out when I left him. He started talking about the abuse he experienced a lot and crying about it. I foolishly thought he was having a breakthrough. He had a breakdown. I went no contact because he was terrible to me.

[@Lawrenceshow_me]

👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆Secret and Lies kills relationships .No matter how careful you are, you will get caught.What's done in darkness always comes to light I met a Guy with legal & education systems to gain access into your partner calls and texts messages remotely including deleted message without them been notified. It helped in my divorce and custody cases msg him anytime.

[@israelrocha1831]

They are truly tragic, but one must protect oneself before everything else. Good thing you got out of there, it's just not fair to live in that abusive dynamic. Sadly, its not possible to do something for someone who can't and dosen't try to heal themselves.

[@akalucinda8821]

I'm watching it happen right now to someone I know... It's like watching a child throw a temper tantrum.. It's scary.

[@laurengarrett9005]

Uncontrolled is a good description with my husband. We were in a restaurant and he was angry about the usual stuff. I wasn't engaging giving him supply. He took off his wedding ring and stuffed it in coca cola can and telling waitress to give us separate checks. This is the third wedding ring he threw away in as many years.

[@Lawrenceshow_me]

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[@priscilalondon]

Why do you put up with it?

[@pamelayoung3496]

Oh gorm!!I know that type of behavior so well. The blaming and outbursts over everything!!

[@fortheloveofdeltaco]

It's been forever since I've seen a coke can, but I wonder how he was able to stuff his ring down that little hole in the can. Is he a magician? Or did he somehow make the hole bigger?

[@susanq6398]

You need to get away from him

[@Keith_Mikell]

I am watching a debate on TikTok right now and I am watching a narcissist collapse in real time. Everything you said exactly happens and is happening. Such a fascinating thing to see God bless people that have to deal with this shit. I’m not saying that I never had to deal with it, but the people who have to deal with it daily deserve a shout out.

[@madameluisa9266]

He left me after almost 10 years. Then he acted as if he didn’t do anything. It’s as if he has selective amnesia. We have No kids I saved myself from that one. I’ve been taking control of my life and he can’t take it. I’m watching him collapse and the stages he is going through it’s pretty scary. Today is day 2 of him leaving. Had to block him and his family just because I wouldn’t give them any more money they all spit on me. Now some of them are trying to contact me trying to be nice so I can send them money. Crazy ass people so glad I’m out. I’m on the road to recovery its as if I got punched a million times but I’m going to be ok I’m getting up. Thanks for the videos you’re amazing. 🙏❤️😎

[@cheralyse1352]

My experience with a "vulnerable covert narcissist": we were together for 5 years in a quiet country, isolated setting. Sex was great! We were players in a dance of mutual participation. Then one day, something became clear to me and I called him on it - about his behavior of quickly moving in with me (all his partners??). He became strange and ran from the house with a terrified look on his face. Not long after, the magic (delusion) was gone. I found reasons not to see him. He "collapsed" but in a more extreme way than you describe. He became psychotic! Sam Vakim describes this. I found him sitting on the side of the road one day, a road to my house. He was staring out into the pond. I continued without stopping as stunned as I was. Much later I asked him about why he was there. He denied that it ever happened. More bizarre behavior ensued. I began to understand just how strange this guy was and just how extreme of a mental disorder this is.

[@Clevelandsteamer324]

There is a “shared fantasy “ once you see under their mask, they will rage

[@amandagish5976]

I am watching collapse now. I've been booted by the narcissists and truthfully I'm delighted. I've spent two decades recovering from them and now I'm totally free. May they stay gone because there's no one for them to call in an emergency.

[@arabchic7855]

Wow you have described my ex I left him in June he tried to play he depressed and his paranoia worsened he tried to make me feel sorry for him but I never gave in I can see through him I hope I never see him again we have a son together who’s 18 months still a baby left all the responsibilities on me even when we was together so eventually I left after 3 years together it’s so hard to finally leave them and they pull you back with manipulative excuses it took me so many attempts to leave and I done it The peace i feel I wouldn’t change it for the world

[@nkeiruokolie7001]

My narc Partner is literally crazy, everyone is a suspect to him, when someone gives him something to eat ,he will come home with it and keep it for months cos he's suspecting that it has been poisoned. Sometimes he will tell me that very soon I will see what will happen to me and I will be like how for what reason, he's just being ridiculous.

[@prettyevil6662000]

I've been wondering why my dad's behavior seems to have regressed. He's always been a paranoid covert narcissist, so there were always shades of 'manchild' to his behavior, but as he's gotten older and all his old 'friends' (supply sources) abandoned him, he's become even more child-like to the point that people have asked me how he even survived to adulthood because he seems so incapable of doing even the most standard things for himself. like he suddenly can't call to make his own doctor's appointments without screaming at the receptionist. He just can't even pretend to be charming and smart anymore. I was starting to think he had early onset dementia or something, but it didn't quite make sense because all his faculties seem otherwise intact; it's more like he just can't be bothered to try and screaming at people is easier than doing anything to gain ego-stroking. He's also been reminiscing about my childhood and teenage years a great deal lately. Retelling me many ways he traumatized me, while making himself out to be the best dad ever (for spanking me for crying...). Is this the reliving tormenting people thing? Could his regressing behavior be a sign of narcissistic collapse?

[@karenkennedy6331]

Same here! My husband’s odd thinking and behavior, especially in the hospital had many believing he has dementia! He just has messed up thinking.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

Yes, they are unable to control themselves as they get older. They run out of the energy that it takes to keep their masks on. They lose their friends and family. Worst for a man is that they lose respect, which they demanded from others before. Old people are ignored and they can’t stand being dismissed.

[@DaRyteJuan]

May the gods bless you, Danish. Your survival is a miracle for the rest of us to be the beneficiaries of. 🙏

[@annai6393]

Indeed, I am seeing it now. At my workplace, I moved away from narc to a better, higher position and exposed him. All the others under his supervision are quiting within a few months in that office. He is losing his mind and having to do all the work himself as nobody will work for him. His smear campaign has failed, while I smiled and continued being a nice person, and everybody is now becoming aware. Rather than accept that his rigidity and narc ways are the problem, he has become more rigid and paranoid.

[@joshuaanzalone2060]

I love watching them self destruct

[@lauradelregno99]

Me 2

[@samxsara]

Ohhh you made me want to explore this

[@Ultra_Ultraline_27]

Same

[@lokashankar2602]

They are bitterness personified....ditch them

[@WalkChantSail]

It took me a long time to realize that the paranoia a narcissist feels is because they assume that everyone else is going to do what they do and they’re just better at it… and so when they’ve hurt you, they assume that you are going to respond in the same way they would by Plotting and scheming and abusing and terrorizing you and they become paranoid.

[@louc8782]

Watching this go on here and I'm LMFAO. Every dog has its day. I'm just happy to be here watching it all come apart.

[@2ndrodeo809]

Just learned about narcissistic collapse after watching your video on it from 3 years ago. Needed this!

[@Themis419]

I have all these signs but only because I reached my limit. It's like a waterfall of hidden hurt feelings and they're out. I'm really sick of that they used me just for supply. Never seen as individual and now I will lash out at anyone who tries to break my boundaries. I'm also sick of people that think that they can just demand attention. You're adult - live YOUR life. Literally sick and tired that people can be that way and I have to deal with them. Make me want to vomit.

[@sandysmith4647]

Abused by my narcissistic brother for 65 years, he started becoming obsessed with people that were hopefully there for him as he started to face health problems. By age 70 he had chased everyone away, no one was there for him, including me last year, I told him to go away I had had enough. Now he’s completely on his own.

[@thenewsmalltalk9874]

After years of documenting my twin sister's abuse, I was able show it to a judge during the restraining order hearing that resulted after she attacked me and then called the police saying I attacked her. The flying monkeys came a few months later and I've lost most of my friends and family at this point. But hearing the judge say to my sister, "I don't believe a word you said." after I had to cross examine without a lawyer.. out arguing my sister's pathetic lawyer.. and winning custody of the cat she abused to hurt me makes losing all of the abusive people in my life worthwhile. Is it ruminating if I get a copy of the transcript?

[@doesnotFempute]

I'm sorry you went through this. People seem to think sharing a uterus makes people automatic BFFs. I have a brother and sister that are twins and barely speak to each other, even when they both lived at home. The brother has never had a job.

[@awomen1072]

Away to remind yrself of how strong you are 🎉❤

[@cjjohnson2316]

ABSOLUTELY GET A COPY OF THE TRANSCRIPT. It is NEVER over with a narcissist.

[@naida6958]

My husband did that to me its called projection

[@jp4546]

Yes. You should definitely get the transcript. It’s a good idea to have documentation. The narcissist never stops scheming.

[@ct9196]

Insightful! It was especially interesting to hear about intact defenses when the self is collapsing and the mechanism of getting supply from the memory of the past. My ex-husband did that a lot and I scratched my head wondering what was going on in that behavior. Thank you for clarifying.

[@riquipoo5578]

You described my parents perfectly! Once my father passed away my mother tried to use me as her supply but I refused. I thot she had dementia and was getting worried about her cognitive decline but couldn't figure out how she could still function in some areas. This makes sooo much sense to me now! I changed my number and moved so my family is no longer an issue for me. Thank you for the video!

[@everydayupdate8331]

So SAD🤔😰😨😭😭😩

[@denafrederick6391]

Thank you for your podcasts on narcissistic behavior. These podcasts have helped me understand that I need to get out of the relationship I've been in for 12 years. I kept thinking it would one day improve and get better. Now I know there's no hope this relationship will ever work.

[@Kendall-LM]

please leave. it took me five years. it won’t get better. you’re an angel for trying that long but your life and light is only getting dimmer the more time goes by. please leave

[@denafrederick6391]

@@Kendall-LM Thank you for the advice. After listening to podcast after podcast on Narcissist I finally realize this relationship is never going to work and has to end. I hope to be out of this mess within 2 months, and just thinking and knowing I'm on my way out has made me smile. My grown children are ecstatic that I'm moving on.Its something they've been trying to get me to do for years now.

[@sherrydee7880]

It's very disheartening to watch a person with NPD attempting to hold onto their false selves. I always knew my ex was secretly insecure, yet I helped him to put on a "bad guy" facade by simply keeping my mouth shut and not telling others how much of a fake and a liar he was. After 30 years apart, he took a turn for the worst, after a massive stroke, and went after his only adult child as if she were me. Yet, when he spoke to me, he called me his 2nd wife's name and then went on to call his current girlfriend his 3rd wife! To top it off, he released a news story and video about his new "wife" and released it 2 days prior to this childs birthday. I didn't put it all together until I watched this video. I just thought the fool was addicted to drama because the term NPD wasn't widely used or understood when I was splitting up with him. His patterns are so clear because he continues to repeat them, with a twist of name changes. We just thought it was his stroke that left his brain scrambled! He lost his only true ally when he went against his own child and now it is her wish to never speak of, nor see him again. I see him as a monster who decided to inflict pain on the one person who stuck by him when everyone else just wanted to take his money, his business and his stuff. I blame myself for not telling the child the truth about her Father. I shielded her because I honestly thought it was a problem that only I shared with him. Now I get to watch an adult child struggle with the realities of life with a Narcissist in the worst way. I don't know what to think about his actions, but I commend his only heir for not lashing out at him and his band of friends and caregivers. Yikes, what a mess a Narcissist can make for everyone and everything they touch.

[@rhondajoaquin4550]

Yes, I have a malignant narcissist mother and she just turned 86 and is very paranoid. It has been a very long haul for me dealing with her. I am the only child of this beast but thanks to videos like yours I have learned how to deal with her much better. I am always shocked when she pulls her next stunt because they are able to pull enough energy to massacre there victims usually me. 😳

[@wms72]

I knew a malignant narcissist who became Catholic before she died of emphysema and congestive heart failure. She never descended into paranoia or risky behavior (though she was paranoid and liked gambling and smutty books when she was younger). She was relatively peaceful and well-behaved , and heard a heavenly choir before she died.

[@cut_the_crapp]

Yes, paranoid, always angry, gets enraged over completely unimportant things, people, everyone is trying to hurt them, compulsiveness increases, drinking problem worsens, collapse is very near. Shows all the signs, including the distorted memories of old, "glorious" days. 🤣🤣

[@Ultra_Ultraline_27]

Yup

[@stocks7765]

After ruining a 4 year relationship again,I think I am one altough I don't recognize all symptoms.I don't care about power,I don't want to hurt people on purpose.My ex ended it and now I indeed really collapsed.I reckognize much you say.I don't feel anger now,nor do I want to take"revenge"She is so right for throwing me out and I do feel guilty,not for myself but for her.What a stupid idiot I was to not see that she was just loving me,while I was only responding 10% of the time.Wish I was smarter than this.The feeling when collapsing is to die,you are so right but I deserved all I get now.I hope I can become a better person,I hope I didn't damage people that hard,I asked forgiveness and apologized,can't do anything more,just become more aware and be a better person.Thanks for the videos sir

[@kingbee9778]

I have gone no contact seven years ago but when still in contact with my narc sister, I only saw instances of narcissistic injury. This would occur when she was told "no" to a demand she had made of me. The change in her demeanour was frightening. She would lose control of her fake self and a demonic presence seemed to take over. Even the voice became inhuman with rage and she assured me she would be the source of my destruction. It sounds like the narcissistic collapse occurs when there is no target or scapegoat to defecate their rage and self-loathing onto, and there is some degree of recognizing they themselves are the source of their misery.

[@truthiseverything9511]

Mine called me once to ask if I knew someone working in the local tea company because he thought one of the little teabag messages was aimed at him.

[@kameshiam1674]

🤣

[@dawnysmitty]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Kathleen-p1l]

Karma simply looks different than what we fantasize about

[@t.noeltrudell-kays2004]

I like to say, "Karma manifests empathy."

[@marleneroazzi9314]

I continue to listen to your most informative talk to reassure myself I did the right thing by leaving my diagnosed narcissist after 46 years of marriage. He continues to berate me accusing me of complete nonsense which I pay no mind to. He does this to convince himself he is more valuable and superior than me. He is older and I am watching him collapse . I blocked him from my phone. I feel so emancipated and have learned through deep consciousness why I chose this man and couldn't leave.

[@afterthestorm9355]

What is up with the paranoia?The Narc I was married to often thought that people were stealing from him-and he had actually misplaced the item in the first place!

[@fortheloveofdeltaco]

Perhaps he was the thief, and he was PROJECTING. Projection is one of a narcissist's favorite tools of deceit and punishment.

[@susanq6398]

That has happened with my narc recently!

[@carolinemathieu1132]

They do become obsessed....when you figure it out and leave......then......watch out.....

[@larrydowling]

100% correct huge rage and attack ,but arguments get more personal. i just try to keep away from her .

[@debraannedimezza8075]

I feel so sorry for the next morning my narcissistic ex leeches on to I was a strong woman confident beautiful had money, beautiful car great job, and I got involved with a man that had nothing to offer me, but his birth certificate didn’t even on a car and after dating him for two years with weekend sleepovers meeting up with him during the week I fell head over heels in love I walked from everything I worked for to move in with him I commuted over 50 miles a day back-and-forth to work to keep my job so we could live comfortably. I went from being his perfect woman to ending up being more toxic than him in the end after the love bombing, and the breadcrumbing and his walls being put up and his constructive criticism, and then starting to shred me I was 10 years older than he was. He started finding faults with my body. He stripped me from all the confidence I ever had into a shell of a woman. I ended up leaving him. It’s been five months and I’m still a mess.

[@jeffreyreynolds4732]

Thank You Danish! I had Never Heard of Narcissistic Collapse Before! Everything You just Mentioned in these 5 Steps Paints a perfectly Clear Picture of the past 2 1/2 Years I just got away from. I Love getting Educated and Empowered!

[@nancysavard4322]

I'm currently going through this with my narc mom (77). She is alone, husband passed 2 years ago, alienated everyone around her, and she was letting herself die. The building manager where she lives contacted my brother. (question--why didn't the building manager call 911?) My brother and I are both no contact but he works within walking distance of where she lives, so he went over. She was severely dehydrated and could no longer move. He called 911 and she was taken to the hospital. This is the tricky part: everyone responded. I went to the hospital once to support my brother, her grandchildren went, her siblings got in touch. So this gave her MAJOR supply. Now, she is to be released shortly and the no contact resumes. My brother and I wonder if she'll try this again. We discussed our refusal to be manipulated by these 'attempts', how we'll handle future 'events' and unfortunately, we wonder if she'd go so far as to end her life.

[@surveyormarkable]

My father got more and more angry as his strength and faculties declined. I had to bring in a legal guardian to override his control to give my (also narcissistic) mother the care she needed. While we waited at the hospital as she was in surgery, my dad started recounting events from the end of wWII. I knew his service history and he never saw combat or flew planes, but he started telling stories of bombing Germany. As he droned on in the public waiting area, he worked himself into a lather, getting louder and louder disturbing other families. My son and I tried not to react or encourage him, but Dad was in full monologue mode. I later pieced together with my cousins that he had been telling his brother’s war experiences as if they were his own. From his telling, you’d have thought he won the war himself. I’m sure, between the guardianship and his loss of control over my mom, he was collapsing into his fantasy world. It was creepy to witness.

[@prophet1782]

Thanks Danish . Phew !!! Seen it all. All makes sense now. !

[@jagrutidurani7395]

This actually makes me feel more frightened, that although I can anticipate such behaviour from a fading & dying Narc, it’s still a trap / trauma for those who are around the Narc. ( unless the Narc is totally isolated to face his own karma ).

[@marikeherminesophia]

Thank you so much Danish, for sharing a quite personal story 🙏🏼 Respect!

[@abladerunner831]

Danish,, that again was brilliant and insightful ...you give the clearest analysis of narcissism on KZbin. Thank you. much appreciated

[@mararamitchpeace]

My father in law was like this. He drove away several wives and even drove one to the crazy house. Years after he worked so hard and spent thousands to defend his son in our divorce, I ended up by his side on his death bed as he battled very aggressive brain cancer. Before he died, he said he was a failure. It was the most pitiable thing I had ever seen. I could count the number of people who showed up at his funeral on both hands. His oldest son did not even speak at his funeral. And the people he hurt the most.... me, his sons, and his ex wife were there to see his ashes laid ro rest out of respect.....he can finally rest.

[@saharhayat9332]

maranda need to tell you,you are a beauty...world needs more people like you

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

It is sad to see them when they are old and dying.

[@vaska1999]

So can you all. Rest from him.

[@karenabrams8986]

Thanks for explaining my mother in laws sudden and shocking acting out on the internet with every strange male willing to interact with her. She died last winter. I still can’t believe how worried and stressed she made everyone. Then poof. She’s gone. Relief.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

I was so relieved when my dad died. Kind of relieved when my mom died. I spoke to my siblings about the abuse, they are in denial, which is their choice. I went no contact for 3 years. But then I became sick and thought I was going to die so I wanted to make amends. they said they would come visit when I was homebound. They said they would be at the house around 1pm, but did not show up until 4pm. No call or message that they were running late. Very disappointing because I was so sick and only had so much energy. I can’t be around one sibling, the other I email but don’t want to be around. I don’t feel safe being in the presence with either one. I love them both. I still attract narcs, but no one is allowed in my life except my children.

[@ingridwrites]

This is very reassuring, thank you 🙏🏻 I might be witnessing a narc collapse. Not sure he’s a narc but his mother is 1000% narcissist, she’s scary. He hates me now and acts paranoid and depressed and even though he receives help financially and mentally he sees himself as a grand failure. Left me out of his life, discarded me, now I realise our last months was a web of lies, he abused my compassion and empathy.

[@betterlatethannever7337]

Thanks!

[@PaintWithWheat]

Thank you so much! Yes, I think I am witnessing this now with the narc I have to deal with from a distance. He has alienated everyone and makes foolish attempts to involve me once in awhile. I don't take the bait and it kills him. In a few years I won't have to deal with him anymore at all. Your channel has been a huge help in helping me understand what i am dealing with. I feel strong and happy, thank you!!

[@shelleylaneve3534]

I was married to a narcissist for 25 years and was with him for 30. After I had finally gotten to the end of my rope, I left and told him I wanted a divorce. When I cut communication off he posted horrible lies about me and my business on Facebook and killed himself.

[@FroggyFrog9000]

why would what you wrote be sufficient motivation for him to kill himself? What am I missing?

[@shelleylaneve3534]

@@FroggyFrog9000 nothing justifies what he did

[@MikeB-ek4ep]

WoW! So true! Seen all signs! Currently witnessing the fifth

[@ravg4232]

This bloke Danish is so spot on its unreal

[@ioanaanaoi8232]

Excellent info. Thank you.

[@icewalker23]

fascinating, i dint realize until this video that i have observed narcissistic collapse of a less extreme type but definitely included each of your signs. very powerful. - ty

[@nimisharanjan7554]

No I have never seen my narcissist collapsed ever..... Amazing experience you shared... Thank you 🙏

[@amirulzamri7833]

Why do you want to experience that lol? They're horrible with age, they will lash out at everyone. Do not recommend.

[@emilybailey8435]

I have watched about every one of the people that are supposedly experts on narcissistic behavior. However, I find you to be the most intelligent and expressive of all of them. Your way of verbalizing your ideas and understandings of the narcissist are extremely intelligent. Thank you for your insightful videos.

[@christinacirillo54]

I experienced all of this. Thank goodness I have been no contact for 9 months now. Just finally getting back to myself. Slowly

[@benwilliams5236]

A wise man once said, "Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not watching you."

[@larryatchley8116]

Sad to say these people live for them self they don't see any one but themselves feeling sorry for them won't help you nor them it's their way or the high way never a day when don't throw a temper tantrum love is not enough for them in fact I don't think that they know what real love is they are so insicure and angry I don't believe these people need to be in a relationship you have to Pray and keep it moving for your peace of mind they live in the past a lot of child hood truma these need counseling I have lived with someone like this it has been hell on Earth I am a strong woman I am not a victim you have to walk away from these kind of people for your own peace of mind love you Cynthia

[@christinemunger7054]

OMG, is this what will happen to my husband of 25 years after I present him with divorce papers on Tuesday?!

[@joannavvark909]

Lucky you

[@lovefaith6285]

I think my narcis-sister is experiencing a severe narcissistic injury or collapse at the moment. After she broke up with her boyfriend of 18yrs I started sending him videos about narcissism and later informed him of her 2nd supply guy, which she had been seeing while with him. He's blocked her and is moving on with his life. After Christmas I saw her 2nd supply guy and informed him that my narcis-sister had shown up at her exboyfriend's house twice, crying and begging him back. I know this because I was waiting inside his house as he was working on my truck and saw her whole performance. 2nd guy called her and said he wanted nothing to do with her, along with other words, and she's been home "sick" with some mystery illness for the past week. I found out she was trying to aquire their properties and I couldn't turn a blind eye to her deceit and manipulation of these men.

[@DavidMiyamoto-p6o]

Smart. Beautiful tone. God bless this world's messes

[@stillshynin7109]

All of this is spot on!!!

[@stellap7624]

Thank you for this video as certain things with my former husband were not making any sense, but he's getting older now and experiencing this collapse. He was always talking of going on Radio and television and soon he'd be traveling the World as a great Prophet of God. And suddenly he has begun talking of maybe that was never going to happen. It felt strange to hear him talk like that. He was always supremely confident before. He has a Christ complex, and believes he's Jesus Christ in His second coming. This is the most extreme form of Narcissism. He's saying also that he has 'anger issues' . Years ago he never would have talked like that.

[@VICTORIA-rf8pd]

❤🎉I'm sorry you had to go through that. Thank you for sharing. Blessings

[@jennyjones2729]

I am watching it happen currently. number 1 and number 2 are perfectly clear in my circumstance with two aging parents.

[@Keith_Mikell]

I witnessed collapse as i came in as the new supply unknowingly. The collapse put the narc into complete depression, they just lost a marriage of xx years. They were depressed, lacked drive, and really were like a blob on a couch. When i came around things picked up, they sucked me in, used me, and now im educated. An educated empath is dangerous. Esp to a narc bc we can do tests and other things to see where the narc really is at mentally. But as you say these are dangerous people so be careful. I always keep that in mind. I went no contact for a while and when the person's relative's number called me and it was them, they got me. So now im educated, aware, and i wont fall for the bs. I think they know too. LOL.

[@kaycarter492]

This is very enlightening thank you for sharing

[@TravelT970]

Fantastic work danish

[@ImLehwz]

Isn’t that a good things then, for themselves? So they can go through the pain to find a authentic self