5 Things I HATE About Diablo IV ...

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[@dericsion3480]

blizzard always try to make games easier , even diablo 2 is getting dumb stuff like sunder charms. I just wish they could make 2 DIFFICULTY and be done with it, an easy mode for casuals and a hard mode for hardcore players. I dont know why game REFUSE to do this these days, its become a weird trend. Why not let the player chose? give us a classic diablo 2 option where players can play d2r but with a classic diablo 2 gameplay, i would prefer that , i do not like the changes they made. That could be applied to diablo 4, I dont want an easy game i want to THINK AND MAKE CHOICES with some CHALLENGE, if diablo 4 is too easy, i will not buy that game. They should start listening to their players if they want their money OH and i DONT UNDERSTAND why people care that much, if the game is bad its bad..... let it die, cyberpunk was garbage, its dead and no one cares

[@MakeTank_]

@@dericsion3480 True + the current trend is that games railroad you, so you have no freedom to decide. That is a great part of D2's success. But I guess is not that profitable... shame.

[@genomgame3811]

I totally agree, this is why pay to win has to stop! I will not be playing Diablo 4 until it tanks and becomes 20$ for a copy, I give it a few weeks until it does like Immortal

[@wildguardian]

So... Most of the things you pointed out are more related to Diablo IV business model than the game itself.. even restricted trading is sort of related to this... But it impacts multiplayer of course. The major thing about it's gameplay that you don't like then are the bosses.

[@terryjohn686]

I thought for sure XP boosts would have been in this list.

[@matprovost13]

The last ""game update"" stream where they talked about the 100$ box for 30 minutes and only answered 3 questions about the actual game really tells us what their priority is.

[@LebronCCP]

what a surprise

[@w.schulz6196]

All about the money And d4 sucks

[@sclipta]

You know this shit reminds me of Artifact. I remember there was a few live streams and they talked about the game like omg this is gonna be this and oh its going to be soo good and you know how that turned out when it was released. So it seems like the more they try the more of this "performing tension" shows the less secure the devs are about this game to be good. And when I heard that they got the nerve to give a few promotion words about Diablo Immortal on that live stream. It was like they spit in my face, and it really showed the attitude they have that no matter what they will push their monitization shit and that they really dont care that much for the game itself to turn out any good.

[@Morhua1]

Yep and the people responsible for those decisions are of course not making the game or usually seen on camera.

[@doingmypart666]

@@sclipta have you played beta? if they stick with it, it wont be good. Its like D3 in new engine with cut out content, just new story. Their new gameplay video was from zones that were almost finished, they did not showed anything new and yet they even promote gameplay with bugs, glitches within the beta and they have even already cut out content from D4 for the new gameplay video. It also felt like some extreme noob was playing it. The guys behind are like zombies, no enthusiasm and no love for the game.

[@nocxsville]

What strikes me more and more: I started playing in the 90s. At that time, games were regarded as art. The developers saw themselves as artists and the game was in the foreground. Today, profit maximization is the priority. A lot of development goes into getting maximum profit out of the game rather than making it a work of art. Today they only talk about art, but basically it's just a facade. Regarding trading, the only reason Blizzard cares about botting or thrid party trading is because they don't make any money from it. They don't care about the rest.

[@Cykyn]

I miss everquest......

[@blaynegreiner9365]

The moment it became a multi-billion dollar industry and publishers got involved, it was inevitable.

[@kNOwWHEREtoR1]

It's mostly because these companies are publicly traded and have shareholders. If they were privately held companies the problem would be less pronounced and it would be more about the quality of the product and less about the profit.

[@DatNooit]

False, back then you also just had Nintendo that wanted to make as much money as possible with there games. Back then their where also while wars going on behind the screens. And if you mean the indie titles, well we still have those, more than ever actually.

[@justinTime077]

Don’t buy the trash 4

[@KingCtm]

I cannot trust blizzard anymore after Diablo immortal. I'm waiting to see the game monetization on launch before I buy

[@agubognernader3205]

xd? are u that stupid to not trust just bc it has pay2win? in other worlds, i guess u spent a lof of money in a VIDEOGAME, thats your problem xD

[@Rachis01]

DI was monetized the way it was because of Tencent. Look them up. They are absolutely abysmal for gamers.

[@Cujo5]

@@Rachis01 The same company that owns Riot Games? Yeah LoL is monitised to hell and back in the same way, isn't it? It ain't Tencent.

[@kind2rethink]

@@Rachis01 haha sure its tencents fault...not

[@rythm321]

The sanctity of this series has been fouled

[@turbanheadless]

Is it me or this is a quote from one of the d2 classes entering some area?

[@CBRN-115]

@@turbanheadless yes

[@moleahjobe]

It seems like their whole goal is to squeeze as much money out of the fanbase as possible without scaring away to many people.

[@superduperjew]

Couldn't agree more. :(

[@jongustavsson5874]

Well, it's a business, their goal is to make money. I don't understand how that simple fact still eludes people.

[@darrell5363]

​@@jongustavsson5874 elden ring didnt have to do this, and is one of the most successful games ever made. dont pretend companys need to do battle pass and cosmetic bullshit to be successful

[@jongustavsson5874]

@@darrell5363 not from a monetary standpoint, hell candy crush has over a billion in yearly revenue.

[@moleahjobe]

@@jongustavsson5874 So you want to get into the ethics of business? Should they start paying their staff 1% of what they should get paid? Should they make Diablo a pay monthly £200 subscription? Then Charge £100 per in game weapon skin? They are a business after all money is their main concern!…. Reality is that the game they make is barely worth £40, the work gone into the this game is barely a fraction of what goes into other titles of the same price. They are trying to squeeze every last penny out of their half arsed game. It’s the numpty’s like you that doesn’t know the value of money is what is making these game companies greedy.

[@arkama67]

The worst of it is that it's made by Activision.

[@waltlock8805]

I'm waiting at least six months before I jump in. Diablo Immortal has made waaaay too much money for me to believe anything the team says about D4's future. Activision could just bring in a separate "monetization" team at any point to change up the game.

[@Cujo5]

Knowing your luck it'll kick in right after you purchase after 6 months lol

[@Sicktoid]

I love that the gaming industry has reached a point where it feels like the player base needs to constantly be on alert and calling out BS or otherwise the companies will immediately ram D in the A... and sometimes they do it anyways. Waiting for a Blizzard product has gone from "is it gonna be good?" to "will they screw it up?" to "how will they screw it up?". I have consciously steered clear of all the D4 hype and speculation, but the more I hear about the game, the more it sounds like absolute cancer me.

[@selimaslan5916]

Amen to that.

[@windowlicker6996]

Diablo immortal says it all. Diablo 4 was made for the love of money. Diablo 1&2 were made for the love of gaming.

[@kylejamer]

I'm over it entirely, I might read the plot through a wiki but every single thing they've shown us has turned me off. It's Diablo 3's current season reskinned the way 3 should've originally been released as.

[@kylejamer]

That Blood Bishop looks like Azrael's fight 😂🤣

[@MrJohnjahant]

Yea i agree. Game is likely going to be trash.

[@antont4974]

I think the reason they made early access is to split groups of people instead of having just 1 large group(and ofc money)

[@richardmenz3257]

Wait I can get money and solve a problem sign me up.

[@Cujo5]

What was it again....? Error 37 or something... where every one slammed into the window like bugs hitting the windscreen when starting the game because they didn't test for umteen million people all wanting to make a character at the same time lmao!

[@artemchikrin9504]

restricted trading is my biggest turn off atm, not even sure about buying the game at this point. will wait for reviews from my friends after 3-4 weeks after release to consider if it worth buying or not that boss fights you showed us looks like d3 lol

[@XxKidnoffxX]

With all the cheater, bots and everything, its not so bad. I love SSF and knowing everyone will play it sound good to me

[@XxKidnoffxX]

@@JAFTW hehh... I dont gonna buy and play D4. Im here to stay tune, but I boycott Blizzard and Activision since more than a decade now

[@l2xsniper1]

Worried about bosses just being bigger pinatas instead of having mechanics that are engaging etc too

[@leedex]

Go and Play D3 and you will find out.

[@taz4548]

One of the best endgame systems is the loot hunt and collecting the super rare items. The grail is great and takes years to complete. The incredibly rare runes and runewords are part of that experience. This is what D2 got right along with balance and making most areas of game important. D3 made the endgame GR dependent and paragon grind. This endgame gets to be pointless after a while and tiresome. The rarest things are the wings from the rainbow goblin portal. They do nothing for gameplay. D4 so far has FOMO, Battle passes for cosmetics and lots of open world areas to explore with dungeons and big bosses at the end. What are we really working towards with the game? Cosmetic collection gets old quickly. The game will be very short-lived if this is the emphasis. Bosses are great, but please no memorizing mechanics like Lost Ark. FOMO is too MMO and gets old if you feel obligated to login everyday. Grinding dungeons is cool, but after you finish them and get the codex reward, there is little reason to do them again. The paragon board sounds ok, and we'll have to see where it takes the game. Is there going to be a system like the super rare loot hunt? Is there going to be something to work towards? Killing mobs and bosses isn't the endgame. Finding rare stuff that they drop is the endgame.

[@imlost19]

to me the core of diablo is cool loot slot machine. What the hell is the point of a cool loot slot machine if you can literally just buy the coolest looking lot? You're taking away half the game by adding in cosmetics to a LOOT BASED GAME. this is a deal breaker for me. i'll probably still end up buying it and just playing through the campaign and dumping it afterwards. To me all it is is a neat RPG with a semi-interesting story. They've completely removed that slot machine loot wheel that was essential to Diablo 2. The only thing you needed to spend was time.

[@thedurtylemur2282]

@@imlost19 so can you buy actual weapons or just cosmetics???? Cause cosmetics have no effect on actual gameplay or stats or anything. Most people who play diablo don't give an f what they're character looks like as long they are as strong as possible.

[@imlost19]

@@thedurtylemur2282 well the game is a role playing game, or at least used to be. Removing control over what the characters look like and giving them Angel wings and hoverhorses will remove that role playing aspect. What you are describing is an action arcade game, where gameplay takes over and the role playing aspect is left miles behind.

[@mainedorio4363]

The cash grab is very strong in this one. Imagine paying $100 for D4 while POE2 is free lmao

[@tni333]

I’ll remain skeptical until the game is released and probably quite some time beyond that. Blizzard has shown us what they’re willing to do with monetization and I fully expect them to fuck up D4. If not at release, later down the line.

[@leedex]

Please don’t buy the game. We don’t need a person like you in the community 😂 Go and work on your relationship before she is leaving you, unless she already left you….

[@Ryu_Makkuro]

Wait, if they call it a Collector's Edition, then it HAS to include a copy of the game otherwise it cannot be an edition of a game as it doesn't include it. Would have to be named something like a "Collector's Package for Diablo IV" to point out it's an addition, not edition. Oh well, Blizzard really enjoying all the Activision scammy tactics it seems.

[@Xilus405]

If you go to blizzard's gear store, you will see that the item is called "Limited Collector's Box" so I guess they are well aware of that lol

[@anyfightinggamezfine69]

I hate that gaming companies are trying to shift everything to digital. Like ps5's without a disc drive. That makes it way too easy to cut out other vendors and charge absurd amounts for games new and old

[@MonsterZero_17]

I agree with everything you said except for the collector's box. It's nice to have the option to buy any version of the game you want and on any platform, and still get the collector's box stuff. But the biggest benefit is that usually people who drop the money for the collector's edition then have to wait for it to ship, meanwhile everyone else just buys digitally and can start playing at launch. This was a good move, imo.

[@Lock2002ful]

Same here

[@Whompy420]

How hard would it be to email people who buy it a game code? You’d still have your physical copy

[@MonsterZero_17]

@@Whompy420 Are you suggesting to give out two copies of the game with the collector's box?

[@Vexal50]

@@Whompy420 they'd have to provide a code for each platform, which would mean they'd effectively be giving 3 copies of the game, and people would likely sell the 2 codes on the platforms they don't play on

[@ramudon2428]

@@Vexal50 Surely they'd be able to have you pick a platform when you order, and connect your physical copy with the digital copy by connecting them? I mean, maybe that's a huge issue, I don't know. It just at a gut level feels like that should be easily doable.

[@TotobamfRS]

Mainly the no trading is bothering me.. The itemization seems lazy and simple. I used to be the biggest diablo fanboy but since I started playing POE I do realize that a great itemization in a game makes it so much more replayable.

[@Lyzander911]

The items are pretty trash. Their "chase" items aren't anything that make me want to chase anything

[@loganedwards5701]

So much restrictions on trading just takes away from the longevity. You have to start over on every new character and getting them to end game

[@doingmypart666]

and dont forget if you change difficulty, its basicaly new start too because you cant be using items and powers from different difficulty :)

[@eyesofstatic9641]

@@doingmypart666 what?! really?

[@TheInfinityMaster1]

Well, for me, as an *offline singleplayer gamer,* I mainly hate the *"open world light MMORPG"* direction for this game as well as the *"always online"* feature compared to older Diablo games (primarily D1 and D2) and those two reasons are the main "dealbreakers" for me when it comes to buying/playing this game. Other things that I don't like (but also not necessarily "hate") are the "Paragon board" and some other "D3-ish" features that are returning in D4. Overall, even though I think D4 is looking way more promising than D3, I think I'm gonna *pass* on D4 and just end-up watching a full playthrough/stream of the game mainly for *story purposes* and that's about it sadly.

[@steverosenberg4686]

I plan to just replay E;den Ring when D4 launches. We will have a PS5 by then and Ragnarok sounds interesting.

[@Zenithity]

I think for that price, the ultimate collectors edition should come with more AND should come with exclusives/cosmetics that you can use in D4 NOT WOW, D3 & DI...

[@goswami]

I am in the cautiously optimistic camp. I've learned never to pre-purchase especially with Blizz titles. On D3 release I was there in the store at midnight to get the game, went to play, only to run into server issues that did not allow me to play for multiple days after, something I've seen on WoW expansions still being an issue. I also remember how they released D3 demo up to the Skele king and how this part of the game was well received/refined however after, it became a bit of a mess at parts. I can see something similar happening with the current D4. The trading aspect is where I will actually hold out from buying the game in it's first week. D2 with it's 3rd party sites, being able to go into god mode gear with no issue. D3 with the auction house, just buy most yellow gear there instead of spending hours of farming that might be a upgrade. Overall, I'll be waiting a week after launch to see how the game health is. I'm sure I'll get it however I refuse to contribute to any pre-purchase rubbish they throw our way.

[@karlmarcs31]

I'm not even cautiously optimist. I've lost all faith in Blizzard and all the talent of the company left a long time ago.

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

back in 2003, i was anxious that World of Warcraft would ruin Blizzard by addicting them to big money. i was right, and Generous Blizzard died within a year. _but this Activision Blizzard is an entirely different and much worse animal._

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

2. i really appreciate your sincerity on this topic

[@leogaming7366]

I hate it when you buy Ultimate version and they give you punch of stuffs for other games.

[@Fingolfin3423]

Diablo 4 looks a lot more like Diablo 3 than Diablo 2. That's a huge problem.

[@doingmypart666]

its copy of D3 with D2R engine, slightly better .. less content though, less skills, less diversity.

[@MasterNaro]

They just need to copy of d2 item and trade system and they will have a game that people will play for the next 20 years, if the game play is solid too. The only other thing I worry about is the maps being tunnels like it was in d3. Unrestricted trading gives the items all the value or else who cares after your done using something its just trash. That will be a huge missed opportunity if they restrict trading. I don't understand what's the problem with money trading on side websites it just creates more communities for the game. Restriction and Fun aren't a good couple, so just put less restrictions and you will have a massive success and sell more cosmetics then you ever dreamt.

[@zainb2261]

Problem is botting is gonna make all the best gear basically worthless. When someone can just buy the best gear it kinda ruins the game for everyone else trying to grind it out.

[@BusyBozz]

​​@@zainb2261 POE handled the botting problem pretty well. There are security and obersvation options to not let it get so far. Also, people will still be botting. The only problem for Blizzard is, that people will rather spend real money on a rare item, than on a skin. That's all they want and optimize for.

[@SaltedKillick]

If they released it with an offline moddable option for the community to experiment with it would change my opinion of them drastically, rehashed diablo 3 textures and features notwithstanding. Otherwise, keeping it online only means they want to control and treat customers like cattle to be milked as they see fit going forward with seasons, passes, traded affixes and whatever $ ideas they dream up in the next 6 months .

[@nahuelsepulveda9786]

So well explained, offline or some solo playing would be awesome

[@The3rdTurd]

Yeah, the sad thing is that a lot of gamers now are apparently ok with the online-only nonsense being the future of the games industry... for some crazy reason they're ok with games effectively just being a long *rental* now that can get shut down at any time for any reason. It's ridiculous, imo.

[@PaulsGamingLive]

The Collectors Box not being locked to a platform is a very smart move tbh, and them other Collectors Editions you point to cost like $150+ right? No diff from buying the Collectors BOX + the game on any choosen system So yeah its not being sold as an Edition,

[@glow4417]

I agree with this actually. At first I was like no game? Then I saw the price of the collectors edition and I understood what they wrere trying to do. So I disagree with dbrun, it was actually smart for Blizzard to do a collectors edition in this way.

[@wildwest1832]

People need to accept any new diablo will never ever be like the first 2. Those guys are long gone. Its going to have many design similarities to D3 because those are the people making it. D3 had an audience, and so will D4 it just might be different. Different band different song IDK why people cant get that. There is no point comparing D4 to D2.

[@icebeep7103]

canada 90$ standard, 120$ delux, 130$ ultimate, prices getting fucking rough, so 30$ extra for the 10$ battle pass and 20$ for the Temptation Mount and Hellborn Carapace Mount Armor...

[@ClintK.]

Has me really upset with the Fomo and itemization. Part of the cool part of game was farming for sweet looking gear and gear abilities. If you have to pay extra for a sweet looking sword I’m out and Blizzard can shove it!

[@youcan2657]

Collectors Edition without an actual copy of the game is just nuts and I hope people boycot this lunacy so it won't return ever again

[@turbanheadless]

Exactly. You control the market

[@necrosisvirulence7461]

SINCE WHEN has Blizzard ever lied before launching a game?!!??!.. Oh wait... ...

[@cbert007]

I feel that these arent that great of “I Hate” points. Doesnt sound like you feel very strongly about them at all and are still ok aka “not deal breakers”. Ive been watching you for a while, since before Resurrected. It feels like you have sold out to D4 Blizzard. Are they paying you now to not say many bad things about D4? Just trying to be honest.. not trying to hate on you

[@pinkchickenbestchicken]

I've seen him delete posts when others asked this on his other videos

[@honkinhonk3454]

Something that is bothering me not just about this game exactly,,, but the whole craze for live service games as a whole. The entire hobby is becoming offputting when every game is FOMO season 1 here season 14 there... oh the game is dead now. I dont want to spend money on these kind of games and there is less overall content at least by the larger studios. Im happy I can still sink my teeth into D2. Now im giving grim dawn a chance again. I just want better games again :(

[@JAndersonGhost0326]

As much as I really want to be hyped for D4, I'm going to wait at least a week after release to pick it up. There have been too many times recently where great games have been ruined by something stupid.

[@whydoyouneedmyname6508]

Better wait till after the first season, you won't know much after a week

[@rdubs1705]

After playing the closed beta, I'm super hyped. The gameplay, item hunt and pushing difficult dungeons is super duper fun.

[@Vamatt99218]

Same, its already $70 USD so I'm already gonna wait till it launches and plus I have D2 resurrected and Grim Dawn

[@solarlight10]

Buy it on sale.. We gotta hurt blizzards profits or nothing will change.

[@SpenceraxOfficial]

I disagree with the collectors edition not including the game. Some people just want the stuff and not the game...adding the game would just up the price by £70 and cost those people more as they are not gonna add the game and still be £100

[@masterlewzilla2116]

Im very sceptical to the whole d4 thing. I learned in the past und Im not gonna be lured into this trap. So I wait for release and see how it goes. I hate this inderactional pressure to miss out on stuff and pre purchase the game. I really strongly believe they are not confident in their game and want to earn as much money as possible before the gamers find out the true identity of the game.

[@michaelfermin5810]

I'm just not buying it at all. The diablo series is dead to me. Playing immortal at release, plus what we've heard about diablo 4 has cemented the fact that the franchise exists at this point to service corporate greed.

[@RyanGerhardtYimimoto]

How is it an edition of the game if it doesnt have the game?

[@imlost19]

cosmetic items have ruined role playing games. Soon enough players will be driving around sleighs throwing snowballs at each other. Its a shame because diablo has one of the best themes of any video game. Diablo 1, diablo 2, and even diablo 3 at release still kept you in that world oozing with theme and charm. You felt like you were in the world, not just in a video game. That immersion will be broken the minute you see a level 9 rogue with literal angel wings riding around on a hoverhorse with magdha butterfly armor. Surely his pet mini-diablo wont break immersion. Diablo 3 saved you from this though, even right now, because you can just play solo and not have any of those things yourself. This game however FORCES you to play with other players, see them in the world hoverhorsing around, and to me it just becomes a video game at that point. It sucks because diablo was definitely one the last few true role playing games with excellent loot systems and it seems like diablo is losing both. Its just an action arcade game now.

[@SaltedKillick]

Exactly. That's Path of Exile - soon to be Diablo style. That isn't going to fly with a big % of older RPG fans like myself. I'd tolerate if we could not look at it with an offline option but they want full control of their customers.

[@stanimir5F]

For the most part I agree. Especially for the additional features of the deluxe and ultimate editions. This is a big "NO NO" for me. But the part with collector's edition not having a copy of the game in my opinion this is great! Let me explain. About 2 months ago I preordered World of Warcraft Dragonflight collector's edition for 130€. Within the box it includes a redeemable key for epic edition of the game which could be bought from the Blizzard app for 90€. So in other words the physical box costs 40€. But because it was as 1 product I couldn't pre-purchase the game from the app and should have wait for the copy to be delivered. Which as it turns out that due to some logistic problems of the delivery company it was so delayed that it arrived at 30th of November while the game was released at 28th November. So I decide to buy it from the app (knowing that when I redeem the code I will gain the money I invested for second time as a blizzard balance which I used to buy Diablo 4). But if I haven't done it I wouldn't be able to start playing from the release and would have missed some cosmetics awarded for pre-purchase (not the most important thing but still why missing something that I deserve anyway) without that being my fault whatsoever. And on top of that I could have buy the standard/heroic edition (instead of the epic) if I wanted which were much cheaper. So it would have been much better if the price of the Collector's edition was 40€ and not including the game (which once again I could buy from the app) instead of 130€ with the game that costs 90€. On the subject of Diablo 4 - I think the price for the collector's edition is waaaaay too high (for Europe it's 110€). Compared to the 40€ of the WoW I don't see what more it has. But I guess that's a whole other subject. When it comes to whether or not it should includes a copy of the game - I am 100% against having it inside. It is unnecessary!

[@stanimir5F]

@Dbrunski125___ seems legit with the three underscores after the name :D

[@XavionofThera]

I feel like the colors are too desaturated / grey. They said they were returning to being "dark" - but D1 and D2 didn't have muted, desaturated colors.

[@turbanheadless]

I would like to add that the game engine makes most graphics look oddly shiny and plastic. A common trait in cheap games. I fear this will be a very poor atempt to recreate d2

[@phoenixpills]

Why the fuck would the Diablo Universe ever have a battle Pass. I'm PASSING on this game.

[@yibrahimovic569]

restricted trading is by far the biggest dealbreaker for d2 vets

[@FeroxPurgatory]

I agree with the FOMO, it's what hurts my time playing games like Destiny 2 where I feel like I NEED to play instead of WANT to play the game otherwise I'll miss out on something cool that I can't obtain. As for the Dynamic bosses I'd have to see more of, but it does seem like they're trying to make this game newbie friendly (gateway game to ARPGs or something) Only thing I really disagree on is the Collector's Box. I can buy the digital version of the game and play it D1 or in some cases early because of the early access while also getting all the collector's items on a different day, I won't have to wait for the collector's box to arrive via mail to get the code to play the game, and potentially can just get the collector's items before the game even launches. Game price I see a lot of people talk about it being expensive, if you were to subtract the base $70 price tag from most collector's editions you'd get around the price of the collector's box or higher depending on what's in it. Really the only thing that isn't to great about it is that people will assume it comes with the game on first glance but they have been clearly stating it does not include the game, even to the point that they call it a "Collector's Box" and not a "Collector's Edition". I've seen some people say "how much would it actually hurt for them to just include the game but keep the same price" just think about if they sell like 1000 of them. That's $70,000 that they'd lose out on. I understand there's a lot of psychology that comes to play with the separation but I haven't seen anyone give a concrete negative to it, just "It's just them being greedy" or "blah blah monetization" but it's not like they're charging 2x the amount of the game and not giving you the game.

[@josephkim007]

i totally agree!! and yeah..the collector's edition...was so confusing for me. it's sooo expensive and doesn't even include the game, which is still boggling to me lol.

[@justice4g]

as an owner of a digital only PS5 it makes sense to me, I couldn't use it unless it came in voucher form or something.

[@josephkim007]

@@justice4g yeah! that would be nice! if it came with a code or something for a digital ver. ^^

[@gabrielkierulff]

Im still not happy with the game art (I can see they tried to improve ) it is still to close to D3 for me. I do play for visuals… this is not a competitive esport game for me. I used to be very passionated about the story and the lore also, which got destroyed in D3 (exemple: A butterfly killing deckard cain). Im sceptical here, I wasn’t convinced by the trailers. What remains is to wait to see if it is really not P2W and if the gameplay is decent. Gonna definitely watch some streams before purchasing

[@slavetothesystem9854]

Soon as I heard open world, no unique trading & no offline I was put off by D4.

[@kaedeharakazuha2003]

what's wrong abiout the open world?? the restricted tranding and no offline mode is yes kinda annoying, but what's wrong with the open world?

[@slavetothesystem9854]

@@kaedeharakazuha2003 Open world games are generally plagued with bugs/glitches due to the size of the world developed. Another issue I hate about open world is a lot filler content/meaningless side quests such as errands etc etc. Constant wandering around becomes a chore, The story tends to take a back seat and you're side tracked onto something else, which could be a complete time waste. Opting for open world rather than focusing on what makes these games worth playing is the loot that can be freely traded amongst the community and the feeling of progression and building your characters items over time by looting enemies and bosses. That is why I have played Diablo 2 for twenty one years and haven't actually quit the game, only taken breaks between ladders. D4 is missing the mark I want as a franchise that checks the boxes as an ARPG looter.

[@kaedeharakazuha2003]

​@@slavetothesystem9854 I understand your concern it makes sense too for what you just said. But I haven't played the game and havent experience the end game so it's pretty hard to say that this game is not a looter game, cuz all of the closed beta tester only played for small portion of the game and havent taste the complete end game experience in D4. but yeah the meaningless side quest or questing system in D4 I really hope it's to be good or fine not amazing cuz I have to keep my expectation low

[@slavetothesystem9854]

@@kaedeharakazuha2003 Don't get me wrong, it is a looter game, it's just not the looter game I want. The attraction to D2 for me is finding those items whether they're class specific or multi use and having the ability to trade those unique's for what I need kept me engaged.

[@kaedeharakazuha2003]

@@slavetothesystem9854 yeah D2 is really challenging than D3 or DI, but one thing I don't like about D2 is the movement and combat kinda stiff and clunky. Well it's your preference after all for not liking D4 🤔

[@briancurrie2897]

I didn’t switch to d2r for a month after the release. I waited until some of the server issues were ironed out. I don’t get the urge to be the first to play. Especially when server issues could have us waiting weeks at a time.

[@jakubsvoboda9134]

I am huge fan of D1 and 2 but if there was 1 amazing thing in D3 it was the bosses and their unique affixes. When some of these affixes were mixed properly you were facing really challenging elites. And thats what I am missing in D4 these elites really seems like just dumb sponge waiting for damage to be soaked in:(

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

Slurp

[@sunshower6560]

It was only allowing you to level from 1-25 in the beta. It’s plausible we see some nasty bosses and champions at higher levels.

[@IL_Bgentyl]

They suffer from what all game devs do now. They focus on profits and not a good game. Things like halo and so on we’re so good because the focus was a great game which rewarded them with great profits.

[@Axthenon]

Blizzard is simply trying step by step to make you accept more and more pay to win. They first have to get you invested and normalise battle pass. The design presented already lead easily to very abusive strategies to make you spend and it feels like it enable even more that could come later. Be ready, because they definitely plan to change the way you perceive cash shop for their own interest on the long run.

[@ZzolllozZ]

GET A JOB!

[@solarlight10]

We all saw this coming for the past 10-15 years like a slow moving train. Now it can't be stopped, only going to get worse with crypto world knocking. Consumers are the ones to blame for this joke industry, I went 15years without buying a dam loot box.. wtf were you guys doing?

[@glow4417]

The game wont be pay to win, because Blizzard knows that would ruin the franchise. Diablo Immortal is pay to win, but no one cares since its a mobile game.

[@blazegg8209]

I bought D3 based on D2's greatness. What am I buying D4 based on? As a person who owns multiple copies of D2 and D2R, I will not be buying Diablo 4.

[@BrandonWestfall]

I honestly can't comprehend people being annoyed with the game not being included with the collectors edition. As long as the price reflects this (and it does) then I prefer for them to be separate. Sometimes shipping is delayed which would prevent you from playing the game at launch if it's bundled. Some people are gifted a code by a friend or even the developers in which case they have a spare code they won't use and/or will have to give away to someone else. To me this is a non-issue people are just using as another reason to throw a fit.

[@tbone8358]

Hi DBrunski, idk if you’ll read this since it’s been a couple days but would you consider making a D2 video about Runeword/Rune Priorities i.e. I’m playing and all of a sudden a Lo rune drops and it’s my first one of the season//ever, what should my priorities be in “most” cases i.e. should you use it to make a fortitude for mercs/etc or should you use it to make your first grief? I know it’s dependent on your class/spec/build but I thought you’d be interested in this idea and maybe you could make a fleshed out video with “tier lists” based on class/etc and maybe an overall priority tier list (one that is not based on class/build but just overall what’s generally the most useful use of X rune when you first get it) So I just found an Ohm rune and I made a CTA for example because imo the CTA is the top priority for the Ohm rune.

[@gorkie6998]

wanna play d4 for free? just play d3 again...

[@treyrandall2983]

After Immortal, and Blizzard's treatment of their employees, I don't trust Blizzard/Activision...

[@doingmypart666]

this is stupid .. first of all, Immortal is not Blizzards, its chinese product with just "diablo" name on it, lore, but thats about it. Its also mobile game. And Blizzards treating? Grow up. Every company has those problems .. EVERY single one. And if you dont know, Blizzard died 10 years ago. Its not even Activision anymore :)

[@dmagick914]

I can't believe I am saying this, but as a long time fan of the franchise I am not currently planning on buying Diablo 4

[@michaelfermin5810]

Me either.

[@mahotion1425]

70 usd might be a fair default price but in many regions in the world this is 1/4 - 1/5 minimum salaray. And Blizzard is not appliyng regional pricing. Means many people in many developing countries will not be able to afford the game.

[@Nokiya]

Including a game in the collectors edition is bad. Why? Because they would have to make like 10 versions of CE box. 3 for PC, 3 for xbox, 3 for ps. Or you would get the game version you don't want. And even if they did include the game in it, they would just raise the price by 70+, so you end up with the same price.

[@Dbrunski125]

That is true I guess

[@spankylosaurus9364]

I'm taking the same approach I did with the release of D3: wait a full year after release to judge the game based on player experiences so far. And I'm not hugely optimistic for D4.

[@UnderworldGrim]

I’m not a fan of the XP boosts even if everyone has access to it however to play devil’s advocate, the XP boosts can just replace your typical D2 “rush” in some sense. A rush is still preferred as it’s a gameplay component and another person needed vs just a stat increase for a period of time, but still… some comparisons can be drawn.

[@Zandeves]

the mere existence of an xp boost is like the devs admitting that a certain level range in their game isnt fun.

[@XxKidnoffxX]

@@Zandeves or maybe to help solo players (like me) who dont have people to rush them

[@Zandeves]

​@@XxKidnoffxX i feel like "rushing" is kind of overlooking my point. which, lets face it. the grind isnt fun, so they make the game grindier and sell these boosts to make more money. I swear, videogames are intentionally designed to be "fun enough" instead of as good as they can be. and it makes me sad.

[@michaelsanders9843]

Rushing isn't a thing in diablo 4... and the boosts are not XP boosts they are "crafting material boosts" their are tons of free skills for 2nd chars and xp for 2nd chars for COMPLETEING the world missions. The boosts are only their to help you craft said potions and thr mats to build xp potions " which were in beta". Is wild to see people state things they know nothing about or take words said by dev so far out of context... XP potions exist. The mats to build them are HARD to find and take grinding.

[@ramessesvivivi]

The more I learn about this game the less I want to play it

[@MrFrmartin]

I'm in the cautiously optimistic group that will be taking week off to play the game. I'm worried about how close it is to d3 components. As a d2 fan I'm 100% with you as far as trading, i really love the trading community, d4 seems to have locked that down to just rares. Feels too d3ish again. Bots will exist no matter what. D3 has bots, and they don't have the open trading. I feel that the longevity of d4 will be shortened without this trading aspect. Look at d2, people still play it after 20 years.

[@Fitsuuu]

In fairness, rares are 99% of your gear as you upgrade them to legendaries with the aspects. So outside of the odd unique the majority of the BiS items will be tradable.

[@MrFrmartin]

@@Fitsuuu Thumbs up. I do really hope this is the case, for the sake of the longevity of the game. I am really rooting for the games success, which would come down to very good game design and mechanics, storyline, and community.

[@MrJohnjahant]

@@Fitsuuu ok but there will not be any end game trading then. Once everyone is at endgame after week 2 or 3, trading becomes worthless.

[@royalecrafts6252]

@@MrJohnjahant rares rolls random affixes and you still need to find or farm your legendary powers lol, waaay more than 3 weeks for a BiS character, diablo 2 is played after 20 years because of mods, not trading

[@MrJohnjahant]

@Royale Crafts do those mods allow trading? Yup. And don't be ridiculous, people have been playing on official servers for 20 years with a fairly healthy population for that age of the game. The population was not solely on modded servers. I didn't say bis items, I said at the end game. You will have gear that replaces your rares and is not tradeable but is not your bis. The point at which you cant trade for upgradeable gear will likely be acquired within 2 or 3 weeks, just like d3.

[@ZhelRa]

I don't know if anyones agrees with this, but I played Diablo in early 2000's and I always played by myself or with 2 or 3 friends. I think there is something great in being able to play alone (not seeing 20 dudes running arround you and a chat box), feel that you are like the chosen one, no one will help you. I avoided most of the gameplays because I just want to be surprised, but I need to know if there is a way to play alone. I feel it kills the immersion of the game, of the old, core diablo experience.

[@aliensouls1797]

I'm pretty positive you can, not 100% sure though.

[@mireks.8984]

I would love to purchase as soon as it is released, but I will be cautious and wait for some reviews

[@d8l835]

Very smart move. If more people did this, it would be the greatest thing to happen to the games industry since online was a norm. The games being developed nowadays are not there for your benefit anymore, its not for your "fun". They are there to entice you to give them as much of your money as possible by selling "unfun" game mechanics, to sell you the fix for that in the shop

[@Telepuzique]

ok, I HATE the fact they didn't include the game in the Collector's Edition box. I'm ready to spend my top dollar for a Collector's Edition. I want a special version of the game in a special box with special stuff. that was very disappointing.

[@BOBBIOFTT]

For me, there are a ton of red flags with this game. Aside from the FOMO and the money attached what does everyone think about targeted loot? How about upgrading your gear? What about javing to switch between a bunch of different skills throughout combat? I consider myself to be a weekend player, therefor all of that to me seems like an over complicated way to cover up for a bad game. I am for sure waiting on this one and leaning towards the not buying at all.

[@Geeza-rc9kz]

I'm in same place, weekend gamer here too and have been put off diablo 4 as new content has been released. Just looks like a replica of d3 which I hated. I'll be waiting for abit to see how it is before buying

[@Kosorith]

Targeted loot disincentives trade, but they are restricting trade anyway, so it probably doesn't matter.

[@BOBBIOFTT]

@Michał Sośnicki targeted loot also seems like easy mode. That combined with the ability to upgrade items and the abilities of the item make itnseem complex when the fact is it is just lazy. Also not being able to trade is a lazy way to deal with bots. This whole game seems lazy and easy from everything we know. I might not have the time to really find the good stuff in D2 but I still play when I can because you never know what you are going to get.

[@LaserPeow]

I had 2 D2/LOD licenses back in the day (pushing own chars). I bought the collectors edition of D3 and D3 RoS. D3 wasnt as good as i expected. D4 looks like some warzone COD shit. People will probably love it and shove their money into the faces of Blizz/Activision. But honestly? The shown gameplay, the streams, the QA all this isnt convincing me. I get the same feeling that i get from Battlefield 2042.

[@MakeTank_]

Definately too much D3 in D4... See you all back in D2R a few months after D4 release.

[@krninja22]

No I won't. 😂

[@chrisb5000]

Great. I started with D3 and anyways found D2 and games like path of exile too overly complicated for the sake of being complex. I'm glad they are getting some of the better features from D2 only and leaving all the other nonsense behind. A lot of things from D2 felt clunky as well like the potion system. Being able to try many different builds and make many different characters and get into the game is great instead of trying to grind for 1,000 hours for you to maybe get one rare item that your character needs for specific build.

[@Oscrs3]

First off, We know that blizzard is going to do things like FOMO game editions, and FOMO battlepasses, but I honestly think that people, being well aware of Diablo Immortals monetization, are for the most part not going to give in to Blizzards greediness. Of couse some players are, but I don't think people are going to want to give in to spending money in game when the game is at a higher price already. The bosses issue is okay in my opinion, because Diablo 4 is going to have over 100 dungeons. I get it, it is frustrating to feel that the bosses in diablo 4 are going to be somewhat similar(maybe even the same), but it is a lot of work to implement a variety of bosses when there is over 100 dungeons to complete. In conclusion, I have heard many GOOD things about the story, visuals, customization, and combat. I honestly think that this game will be good, and most of the playerbase will overlook Blizzard's greediness. Then again, I could be wrong. Im hype for this game, and I'm really hoping its not going to be entirely pay 2 win, as It was in diablo immortal. And yes, I think that waiting for the game to release is the way to go.

[@richardmenz3257]

I am going to def buy d4. I had fun with d3 not for anywhere as long as d2, but playing it though the story on the sofa with my friends though the story without paragon with fun. Sadly end game wasn’t. I am sure d4 would be fun at least 70 hours so I’ll get my worth.

[@armyvalor5496]

This...this right here is what gaming is all about. Sadly you'll have people call you a filthy casual because you didn't spend 1000's of hours at the whim of RNG just to hope you could beat the same boss you've already beaten 1000's of times just a little bit faster with the loot it drops 🤦

[@richardmenz3257]

@@armyvalor5496 Yeah, I never understood that part of d2, but the gameplay loop from low level all the way though hell without any good items is fun. Idk why people try rushing past the best part so much. I did prob play d2 a total of 500 hours which maybe 100 or less was at top lvl / gear since that part wasn't the fun part or at least not fun for very long.

[@Whompy420]

I think it’ll be the opposite about the servers. They’ll run smooth in the pre order phase then have a stroke when the masses try to login on the 6th The big thing regarding the battle pass for me is which model are they gonna follow. If you can earn enough currency by completing the battle pass to be able to get the next battle pass without paying again, then it’s not bad. But if they go the destiny route where you have to pay every season..ehh

[@antont4974]

Very reasonable take(as always). I personally wouldn't be playing the game until more content is released, 'cause I know how much BLIZZ loves to abandon their games. FOMO is bad, Gameplay is questionable - can always wait until the release, ya know

[@turbanheadless]

At this point i feel like blizzard is not capable of releasing a good game anymore. The game will be average with an agressive payment scheme. They do not care about releasing a good game. I would not recommend anybody buying it. You control the market. Dont be stupid with your purchases and you will see games improving

[@NewChangersFiis]

The hard truth is that they don't need to release a good game to reach their financial goals anymore

[@SubwaytoSally111]

Even if you get the gameplay perks on the free track, people will still miss out on those if they take a break from the game for a season. I feel more FOMO from that than missing some cosmetic stuff.

[@oldvlognewtricks]

And the gameplay will be balanced taking those perks into account… How likely will it be an acceptable level of grind in both states? 🙄

[@MrMontey726]

Since they were talking about exp boosts as one of the perks, and that you would need to be a certain level to use perks to begin with, it makes me feel like they are intending to use the xp boost for second or third characters in a season. Therefore, it's entirely plausible that the xp boosts earned in one season may not be used in the next. If the perks don't transfer season to season, and you take a break for a season, your not actually missing out on anything when you decide to pick it up again the following season, except for the cosmetics

[@c4talin94]

I won't give Blizzard a cent until the day i'll log in into D2R and be able to play properly on their servers. I'm saving myself the dissapointment. Grim Dawn is king!

[@kadafibawss1902]

It looks like Diablo 3.5. It looks like they just slapped a grey filter overtop of D3. It’s like they heard the backlash against D3 being too colourful and cartoony so they overcompensated by making everything grey. Everything is so monotone and foggy that’s it’s hard to even see your character or what’s happening in fights.

[@homiixide]

Blame the retarded fandom who are never satisfied and never know what they want. Diablo 3 was perfectly fine.

[@baronbad5907]

70$ price tag, early access paywalled, sus trading.... im just over here like bruh

[@fdsgfsdggsdfgfsdg2152]

70 bucks AND a battlepass ? Lmao ! I was already on the edge because i've never seen a video game license/company go to crap and come back from it but since i've played d2 at it's launch anf came back at it at least once a year i tought i'd still MAYBE give it a try but i guess not !

[@Threewulphmoon]

Imagine gaming for 30 years and being unable to fork out 70 bucks for the hobby

[@fdsgfsdggsdfgfsdg2152]

@@Threewulphmoon Yes, i'm sure that's the real issue here. Me being " " "unable" " " to fork out 70 bucks for a hobby. I'm sure that's the very reason why this industry hasn't gone to shit; games getting worse and worse, battle passes, lootboxes and people still buying it because they can afford it.

[@Threewulphmoon]

@@fdsgfsdggsdfgfsdg2152 70 bucks for something you self admittedly enjoyed for 30 years is a bargain in terms of entertainment costs.

[@jaydub_gaming1578]

As someone who remembers what a disaster the Diablo 3 launch was and the release date getting pushed back I wont pre purchase a Blizzard game ever again. That plus the hole Diablo immortal they pulled I may just skip it if I can resist the temptation to buy it after launch and bugs get worked out.

[@ClipzTDOT]

There is no diablo past d2r.

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

somehow... incredibly

[@luksraf1]

What do you use to record diablo ?

[@jessicasass9460]

If these petty things are the what you hate MOST about the game than I think we have a winner of a game on our hands 👐

[@markmauk8231]

The points you talk about are pretty forgetable in my opinion. What I personally really hate is Item- and Monsters scaling with player level and Smart Loot. Cant wrap my head around those absolutely terrible things.

[@Robinthebank__]

The itemization the bp and the restricted trading are the worst to me

[@shayed_6668]

The battlepass that is cosmetic only outside of what everyone has access to......

[@Robinthebank__]

@@shayed_6668 still is a micro transaction on a full price game, but the worst thing is the fomo that always come with these BP's, you dont play cuz u want, u play cuz u are always chasing limited time rewards Its just a dirty way to inflate player retention and to make some quick money.

[@AllstarGamingDK]

I guess the reason for NOT included a game code in "The Collectors box" is. What code should be included.?? Pc.? Xbox.? PS5.? We have been told that you need to buy the game for each gaming device, so i think a PS5 player will feel a little ripped by getting a game code for Xbox and for that reason it's not included.

[@blackbeardbarkbark]

Damn dude, halfway through the video and you're still talking about things you can purchase. This game is going to be awful. At least we still have d2.

[@BorisTheGoose92]

It's almost like most of the complaints are related to money and not to the game itself? The game itself most people seem to have good thoughts on.

[@opfuster333]

Ya'll are insane, the game is good, feels fresh , looks better, world exploring and running around is much more engaging. Feels darker, starting area feels much more engaging. Combat is much better than d3

[@MrMontey726]

I know people are kinda bummed that trading legendaries won't be a thing. However, given the new legendary system in D4 I imagine that trading of Rare items is going to be huge. Rares play a much more important role in gearing now. Like imagine I find a legendary with a great affix, but the other stats are garbage. I just need a great rare item to put it on. Rare items are going to be sooooo important in this game and people are going to trade big money for perfect rolled rares.

[@Rorysweendog]

If so, why not unrestricted trading altogether?

[@kalypto3789]

Problem is so many casual people that really just don't understand what there talking about.. Literally same exact system currently in D3 as D4 is planned to have... Go look at any trading sites for D3 and I'll rest my case... To elaborate more the rares have virtually no variable stats.. You could play for a hour and find the best possible rare for your slot.. It's not D2 rare+ Legendary's... It's basic ass rares that you have to turn to legendry's to make good.. There will be no market for them outside of first few days.. Beyond that anyone actually playing the game will have a endless supply of them.. Just like D3.........

[@kalypto3789]

@@Rorysweendog Thats right.. If the rares are going to be so tradeable and sought after then why not free trading.. Very simply spoken sir

[@MrMontey726]

@@Rorysweendog Hmmm... If I had to make an argument for the system they made. I guess I would say is that if the game had 100% free trading, people would just be able to go to real money trading sites and buy everything that they need. They would be able to just buy Uniques as well which can't have their affixes switched. If you limit the trading to just rare, magic, and common items as they have, you still leave open an avenue for players to trade powerful and important items for gearing, but someone can't just trade/buy themselves to an S-tier build. They still have to do some work and find the affexis they need. I think the key is that rares will be important and sought after, but they alone can't make someones build.

[@kalypto3789]

@@MrMontey726 Nobody is arguing that free trading doesn't come with 3rd party trading... It is just a negative side effect.. The point I'm trying to make is this smart loot system is not new.. It's literally D3... Your not making a Diablo sequel your making a new game.. I doubt many of you actually have significant time in D3.. As someone who played at launch and has over 4000 hours.. Game is not bad but it's not DIablo... All successful ARPG''s have free trading, it's a staple of this type of game.. Personally I don't understand why people are so worried over websites trading.. Blizz only cares because people complain and it hurts there revenue they want to make that money.. Do you not realize that this is not going to make it any more competitive for your average player? The game will be all the no lifers who can play 24/7 and anyone else... How is that any different than the people your worried buying items? Your casual player still going to get left behind.. I honestly urge any of you who think this is good for the game go put some serious time into D3... Get to end game, get strong enough to do a GR 150... Then come back and less discuss and you will understand why the people actually play this game do not want this!!!!

[@fei5230]

They can put these mechanics (paragon, trade ban, affixes) to force ppl spend money/longer time on the game. But players can choose not to play their game too ^^

[@romesvonwolf]

Don’t forget the D3 gameplay feel, nothing beyond that really matters. Cause if core feels is D3, it’s not worth playing

[@wildwest1832]

Obviously the guys that made D3 are making this. lol. Blizzard north is not here anymore

[@Dbrunski125]

It actually feels great gameplay wise. Better than d2 in many cases like melee having aoe.

[@justinflemming2542]

@@Dbrunski125 Yeah, like in D3 just as he said. I'm actually shocked that you aren't a Diablo 3 streamer instead of a Diablo 2 one.

[@Dbrunski125]

@@justinflemming2542 I mean have you actually played it or are just saying it's shit based on looks? The combat is slower paced like D2 and feels very tight. Its not sloppy at all. Between Last Epoch, Poe, D2, and D3 I would say it probably feels the cleanest of them all. Now that doesn't mean there isn't certain aspects I don't like (i.e restricted trading, boss fights etc). But I mean everyone has a different opinion. If you think the game is completely garbage you always have D2 to play. And I say this with D2 being my favorite game of all time.

[@justinflemming2542]

@@Dbrunski125 I've played the end game beta and it plays exactly like Diablo 3. We both know it does. Stop pretending like it doesn't.

[@robertlapointe4206]

Stop pre buying games. It's simple.

[@FarFrom_Puken]

The no trading is kinda killing it for me. And screams diablo immortal. Which I'm not that much of a fan of. I may just stick with d2r

[@the8thark]

Here are my comments and opinions on the video and if I think you are on point of off base. 1. Using FOMO to Sell Game Editions The only issue I have here is the four days early access to the game. A number of developers are doing this with their games. Is this a way to further stress test the servers before the main launch four days later? Maybe? We all know there will be long wait times to log in and play the game on launch. Diablo 3's launch had hours of wait time and the dreaded error 37. Assuming the same for Diablo 4's launch, honestly I think the four days access is just playing with people hype to play the game as early as possible. This is just Blizzard capitalising on this financially. Also the early beta access there I think is a good move. Beta access for Diablo 3 had two options. Either you were a popular streamer or gaming journalist that Blizzard actually liked and were given a beta pass or you had to win a beta pass from the streamers Blizzard liked. The liked Blizzard streamers were given lots of beta passes to give away. Most of the streamers used the passes as bait to get you to watch more of their content or subscribe. Basically a tool for the streamers to get more stream views and view/advertising revenue. Watching a a few hours of a streamer hoping too a beta key was never fun. I know personally I entered about 20 streamer competitions to get a Diablo 3 beta key. I did get one but it took all of those 20 attempts. Obviously because once you have a key, you stop entering. Not a good system at all. All it did was give bad streamers more views and frustrate the player base. 2. Battle Bass This is just the same system of battle passes used on mobile games, brought into Diablo 4. personally I have always wanted Blizzard to find a way to monetise Diablo outside the base game and expansion purchases. The reason is continual money coming in, will push Blizzard to add more content to the game over time. However it can also lead Blizzard to focusing too much on the monetisation aspects. The most recent developer update video on youtube was a good example of this. Video comments disabled. The Q&A session at the end was clearly just questions chosen by Blizzard thus avoiding to answer the actual questions the community has. Also the focus of these video was to advertise the collectors edition that does not come with the game. A developer video focused on advertising. The mobile game system of battle passes was obviously chosen for Diablo 4 because it works. It brings in lots of revenue for the developers. I do not think it, in itself is morally wrong though. The implementation of to could be immoral though if the core game experience is ruined by too many freemium popups are shown through the game. Ideally the battle pass and microstransaction should be tucked away and only ever seen if the player chooses to go there. Not have popups on screen every so often saying "you have unlocked level 2 of your battle pass" etc etc. And to access that level 2 you will see what you do not get if you did not pay the $10 or whatever for the paid version of the battle pass. This assumes the paid battle pass content is cosmetic only. If this stops being cosmetic only, then that will be a mistake and an immoral move. 3. Restricted Trading I agree with Debrunski. I am not a fan but it is also not a deal breaker for me. This all depends on the itemisation in the game. In Diablo 3, because most builds needed a certain legendary affix, trading was the only way to get that legendary affix with any speed each ladder season. Wanting to try out a build but can't get the legendary affix needed sucks hard. Sure Diablo 4 allows trading of the extracted legendary item affixes and that is the compromise here. You can get the affix but need to still wait to find a good item to put it on. 4. Boss fights should be a little more interesting I agree. However boss fights are not the core Diablo experience. That experience is the elite packs you randomly run into. Are they tough monsters? Do they have an annoying set of monster affixes? What other monsters will get in the way of killing the elites? Will the elite black kill my character? This is where the core Diablo fun is. Not farming the same boss over and over. Diablo 2 got this right with its elite enemies being fun and challenging on hell difficulty. Most of the time, the elite packs were tougher than the act bosses. Diablo 3 did not get this right. The elite packs there did not feel any more special than the average monster. Also the constant boss fights, a few per act were not fun to replay over and over. Scripted Boses, nothing changes, same thing each time. Unlike the elite packs that are different each game. 5. Physical collectors edition I agree with you. Apart from the art book, it feels like a cash grab by Blizzard. Nothing else in there of note. Also what is in this collectors edition is rather sad, when compared to other releases like Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 (Wings of Liberty). Blizzard's collectors editions of recent, (WoW included) have really degraded in quality, from being nice collectors pieces, to now just being cash grabs by Blizzard. A point you did not mention but I feel is becoming a very bad trend across the gaming industry and Diablo 4 unfortunately does this as well. 6. Content exclusive to the digital versions of the game that is impossible to get from the physical disc version. I am aware that game developers get a higher percentage of revenue from each game sale, for digital versions over physical versions. However this does not excuse them for making content digital and/or digital deluxe edition only. Buying the physical disc of Diablo 4 means you miss out on all the digital perks. This practice needs to stop. People should not ben forced to choose which version, digital or physical based on what content they will miss out on. It should be purely based on which delivery method they prefer. This happening here is a very bad thing indeed.

[@EngineerSTG]

After 1 month I can see D4's scores around 50-60 on metacritic

[@libor2010]

and sneak in gameplay changing MTX.

[@Falador321]

Honestly I don't care about the paid cosmetics. The base gear looks fine already. It doesn't look like i'm wearing pots and pans *looks at POE*

[@Cupofgo]

Literally Pay-To-Play with these purchase options. Giving the middle finger to game fans right off the bat.

[@Dbrunski125]

Its actually not pay to win tho. Its just leans in on fomo

[@Rorysweendog]

Bots will happen regardless. They should have unrestricted trading if they want to keep people interested season after season. Pretty funny how this single change will positively impact the game. Blizzard are still going back to the drawing board on how to keep the game engaging per season and saying “it’s created by the community” - the community want unrestricted trading. Make Diablo great again.

[@Rorysweendog]

“Account bound” is a ridiculous concept and adds no value to gameplay or community