Diablo 2 - Rating EVERY TC87 Unique in Diablo 2

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[@Jamersunify]

I remember finding a grandfather in a public baal run when I was like 12 years old... on a barbarian. It was magical.

[@marijhorn]

But exactly because of RW the game is playable now. Before that most builds kinda sucked. And with CD on the skills the RW make game less spammy.

[@Varoxlol]

I dont remember any of the uniques that I found in D4, last week :)

[@Gregski3]

It just shows you how good of a game this is. Finding an item and you remember that experience for the rest of your life

[@securatyyy]

I bet you clicked soon fast

[@kirbyrules55]

@@Gregski3 It also probably be your first time in your life getting that lucky with something, so of course you remember your first time(PG :D ). for me now being older anything rare i get i'm like cool for about 1 minute and then back to life.

[@TheTamally]

It's kinda sad how useless most uniques are because of runewords.

[@edwarddewit43]

Shako, arach, eschutas, hoz, griffins, kiara, gore rider, Maras. Just to name a few gg items

[@drmendozaenriquez]

Some of them suck regardless of runewords.

[@yanniblumstein1]

​​@@edwarddewit43 think he meant the TC87 Items in this video. Also Griffons was named as S tier item

[@brakpseudonimu236]

@@edwarddewit43 I have no idea why hoz is so regarded, pally not only can use spirit without putting any points into strenght but also has up to 45% extra res.

[@TraxisOnTheLines]

@@brakpseudonimu236 +2 offensive auras, and technically more resist, with the option to socket it. It's not better, but there's an argument for it for raw damage and defense, just not QoL and DPS (because FCR)

[@BonesEnjoi]

So glad you went back to Diablo II this game is my favorite

[@nenoman3855]

I wish they'd allow Indestructible uniques to roll eth. It'd allow a bunch of stuff to be viable without being overpowered.

[@MrLlamaSC]

Yeah it would help a little bit at least!

[@twang5446]

And bows maybe. I feel like you could automatically give all unques indestructible as they roll eth, and they still won't be OP

[@Yepmyaccount]

@@twang5446 Eth windforce would be dope.

[@twang5446]

@@Yepmyaccount would be great but still not OP because bowazon really need some love...

[@Yepmyaccount]

@@twang5446 Yeah. That's why I like the idea of small changes like that though. Gives a little bit of power in a reasonable way to help out certain builds. Plus an Eth windforce would be cool af. Already really rare, and then you find it eth on top? sexy

[@daniellarusso8012]

Astreon's Iron Ward is +2-4 Paladin Combat Skills, not +2-4 Offensive Auras. I'm surprised that website got it wrong, lol. I think a good roll is A-tier; great weapon to use on ubers. :)

[@Jamersunify]

Great early season weapon for uber smiters until wealth is built for a grief.

[@Horus137]

I like Astreon's too, one of the great weapons for ubers before you can afford LW

[@MrLlamaSC]

Oh right! And yeah it is decent. Take grief away and it becomes amazing

[@Ubeogesh]

All of those weapons pale in comparison to Lawbringer when doing ubers. LW, grief, astreon... None give such control, safety AND damage. Also take away HotO and hammerdins will use 4skill Astreons

[@jameswalsh5043]

I noticed that too. They got Templar's Might wrong as well. It's 1-2 offensive auras, not 1-2 combat skills. Seems like they mixed the two up.

[@Ronbotnik]

this is really refreshing after seeing the D4 tierlist videos placing nearly all uniques in the game in D Tier

[@thedropbear574]

I would go E or F Tier 😂

[@Bloodwarrior678]

Found a 30 cold damage, 39 lightning and fire resist death's fathom from pindle yesterday. I'm blown away at how good it is and how lucky i got. I'm still so happy getting it lol

[@willythemailboy2]

I gambled a Griffon's last ladder and about shit myself.

[@stambe8605]

@@willythemailboy2 You can gamble that ?!?

[@willythemailboy2]

@@stambe8605 If you're high enough level, but it's about a billion to one odds

[@robingrind]

D2 gameplay in a nutshell, since 20 years: 1) make a cold sorc, then play to hell (the complete game content) in 2 days 2) farm nm meph, hell meph, ancient tunnels (in that order) and lk runs until you are almost brain dead. only hunt the 30 or so items that every class uses because all other uniques, sets, runewords, rare/magic items are completely useless 3) make one of the following: hammerdin, javazon, smiter. do some stupid shit like cows, cs, ubers or something otherwise meaningless until your brain liquifies and oozes out of your ears 4) make some super shitty gimmick builds (see recent zeal paladin videos) who stand no chance in hell except you boost them with a cold sorc to like lvl 85 and give them super expensive end game items you farmed in step 2 and 3. do this until you are almost dead out of boredom 5) wait for ladder reset and start all over again at step 1)

[@megamastah]

Well you are not wrong. That's why I play like 5 hrs per month, jumping in for some quick CS or TC runs in pub games, non-ladder, and that's it. Sunk enough time already earlier on.

[@ryanomac27]

I would love to see some of the runewords rebalanced. Spirit Shields should be +1, 25 FCR max, halve the Vit and mana and ~30 to 35 rez. Same for Spirit sword.....

[@whitealiens]

I would say they should remove one, either weapon or shield. Having both is just to op

[@Pavlo211]

Earthshifter is one of the best weapons for hybrid druids. It's often main weapon of ss+arma build weapon.

[@crimsonram6106]

It's so funny that I play D2R again because of D4 is not yet there..

[@bobbobb5759]

I mean.. thats not that weird. Would any D2 players accustomed to what it is now, go back to the very first release of D2? fking doubt it lol

[@dracolusus]

I didn't even buy D4, been playing Diablo since early 1997, was even at a midnight release of D3. After the betas and server slam, knew I wasn't going to spend my currency equivalent of €70 on it.

[@helpdeskjnp]

Wish you could zoom in the window so there wasn’t any blank white space on the borders, as it’s impossible to see the letters on a mobile browser.. even after changing from 320p to 720p resolution. On a pc I think you can zoom the contents of a browser by holding down the Ctrl key and wheel upwards or backwards on your mouse.

[@Ulve124]

would like to see PD2 version of this tier list to compare

[@farrattalex]

Cool content. I would love to see the same tier list in which you differentiate between eth and non-eth version of the melee weapons. Especially for death cleaver that makes a huge difference.

[@kenleibrick1390]

Thx for all the great content. You may not have blessed aim but are blessed with family.

[@xorxeloco8708]

d2r hype is real thx to d4

[@cgerman]

That is one of the biggest problems with D2's itemization. The majority of the uniques is useless in endgame. Almost all the classes use the same runewords and uniques in the endgame. Spirit and HOTO, Grief, Harlequin Crest, Enigma, Fortitude Arachnid's Mesh. That's A LOT of builds using only these items. For a belt if you are a caster there is really no other option except Arachnid's Mesh. Tyrael's Might is kind of a joke if you take into account how rare it is. So I would say that 90% most uniques are useless in D2.

[@whitealiens]

This is because you think from FOMO build perspective. Try something like wwsin, kicksin, melee sorc, bowazon, psn necro, vindicator etc. and suddenly there is totally different gear and items. Also Tyraels might is pretty decent in PvP for Javazon plus it looks cool

[@deadmo1]

nerfing spirit to +1 to all skills instead of 2 like they did in PD2 was the right amount of fixing so the item isint just BIS forever while the rarest piece is just a 4 socket monarch. What a terrible design flaw

[@MadAtMax.300Blackout]

Made my first spirit yesterday and itll be hard to replace. I might even double up and make a spirit shield too lol

[@crini413]

About the fathom, you're right. My blizz sorc has an orb with 3 cold, 3 blizz, 2 facets and it doesn't do as much as dfathom. That thing is nuts

[@MrLlamaSC]

Yeah the raw damage output is insane

[@Potent_Techmology]

@@MrLlamaSC please make a BiS breakdown for all classes and play styles show some item details bc we don't have everything memorized like you :(

[@bobnewkirk7003]

This is a great showcase of how the game has evolved past the initial design philosophy. Most of these items could stand to be buffed directly, as well as had the stat requirements reduced to more reflect the current state of stat builds. I know LLama has said it in the past but at one point (I think it was 1.10) monster HP was buffed but weapon and armor values were not buffed proportionately, so by doing that now it might help justify the stat requirements of Elite Bases.

[@deadmo1]

i thought the whole purpose of items having indestructable was not have to invest a zod rune in it if ever it dropped eth. what a disgusting game flaw on the fun factor side of things

[@Hazzzaa85]

would be cool to see a similar video for Rune Words. would also be cool to see this video but if Rune Words didn't exist.

[@Crazning88]

What about just turning all runewords into actual uniques? with corrected drop rates according to their impact of a build?

[@lkajdklajscklj2112]

Tbh, runewords that require high runes are hard to find. Id argue enigma is harder to find than griffons. But nerf spirit for sure, that is just too powerful

[@MikeyStreet314]

I’m a father of 4… so Moo hanging in baby Lilith during the Death Clever segment (yes we grew up on it) had me sold. Baby Lilith FTW.

[@Despond]

Ah D2, a game with actually interesting itemization.

[@KaldonWK]

I know it would be kinda crazy to do so, but I actually would like them to make the next season like “season of the mute” or something, real basic seasonal effect. Runewords don’t work. The runes still drop, you can put them in items, just you only get the base effect of the rune. Everything else stays the same. Terror zones, sunders, etc. like what’s the worst thing that could happen? People don’t play the game for 3 months? It sounds fun.

[@starlightxfury1256]

the only placement I disagree with here is Astreon's, should have been higher. maybe not A tier, but definitely above Death Cleaver and Grandfather they really should buff plenty of uniques, Enigma, Grief and Spirit are just way too good, but nefring them wouldn't be as fun as buffing all the stuff that's lacking now

[@jcashin82]

I'm running a GF & BK CB build while I wait for a Lo rune to drop (got every other rune...). It's actually pretty fun, and still pretty strong!

[@olliebeast1012]

Earth Shifter is up there with Windforce but for a Druid. Can make builds happen.

[@sc4ofi31d]

All we really established here is that "grief exists" and "spirit exists" just don't bother with any of these useless unique guys. The most you ever really need is a Lo rune and your set..

[@lkajdklajscklj2112]

If we didnt have grief all melee would be useless. Spirit is op for sure and needs nerf. Even with 2 skill its too good. Imo make it 1 skill and remove fhr from it. OR make it cost zod, ohm or something similar

[@choupetto85]

Tyrael's might should have Might aura when equipped

[@brewman6218]

Definitely. Maybe might and salvation. That would be super nice.

[@JirkaGasik]

I have recently found an eth earth shifter. Useless, but probably the rarest item I have ever found.

[@AbelFarkas]

If you wanna use these cool items, come and play PD2 with us! Devs done a great job on balancing them, and giving them the spot they deserve!

[@famip3679]

Never found a grandfather but found a wind force

[@nicovega1831]

I used Ghostflame for my Avenger Paladin in PVE Parties and it was quite useful there but it is still not higher than a C Tier

[@LetsPlayBojangles]

For solo self found, alot of these, especially the B tier ones, get way better value. Like if you find a high roll grandfather you can absolutely carve up hell difficulty of players 1-3 with a barb until you find a Lo for grief.

[@Heigberg]

Rank a i will put the usable ones. Death cleaver, Wf, shadow d. C i will put those usable but not so good as cranium b, exec justic, astreons, mangs and Dark f spawn. All the rest d,f

[@timothyd3608]

Are unique drops still bad in D2? I remember the last time I played, I didn't get much of anything even though hell. Then again, I didn't get shit from D4 either.

[@andrzejkulakowski]

No item tooltips displayed, but just a name made it boring to watch; as I don't know off top of my head what these items do exactly nor their stats, but vaguely remember them that they *simply exist and supposedly useful* items in the game.

[@dimarisanow7089]

Hello! Please raise the topic of bots in D2R in one of the following videos. Maybe with your help at the expense of a large audience we will be able to do something. Thank you for attention.

[@kuksio92]

I want a new unique weapon that can proc any of my offensive skills/spells on hit. Like 30% for lolz

[@tykve]

Fun fact ,been playin since d2 came out, thousands of hours, not a single ring of jordan. And yet,somehow,people are selling them to summon uber diablo lol

[@ginamar6218]

Why can't blizzard just do subsequent challenges during a season. And make a leader board for it. You could do no rune words. Boom all uniques are great again.

[@uzwannabe]

If the devs just buffed uniques to a point where they can compete with runewords the game would have so much more build diversity and a less linear gear progression.

[@zoutsider88]

i cant find the answer anywhere, maybe someone here can help. it appears as though terrorized andariel has been nerf'd again for tc 87 items. is this true or can she still drop them when terrorized?

[@Kwioresma]

I really wish that they make teleport more accessible. It's so heavily important that Enigma is literally best in slot for 90% of the builds. Put it on Tyraels or on any of the super mega rare but just not good enough items.

[@whitealiens]

Exactly my thoughts and +2 all skills and boom, it becomes rarest and most valuable item in the game

[@jdzazz4155]

I haven’t found all those items in my years of playing, but for whatever reason I have had darkforce spawn drop at least 7 or 8 times.

[@skinnysteezy]

Just found windforce last night in worldstone keep, need to make a bowazon for sure now

[@whitealiens]

I'm rocking bowazon this ladder with WF. Got it perfect for a Vex. That satisfying feeling when with multishoot you are combing monsters 2 screens away is amazing

[@theseze3675]

You should redo the list as if runewords didn't exist , would be cool to see where you rank them in that regard

[@ksven]

Astreon's should definitely be A tier. If you are running a FoHdin/Smiter hybrid it's pretty much best in slot for me, you get the +skills for the FoH and you have CB and +dmg for the smiting. Godly weapon that you sometimes can buy for cheap because people dont realize how good it is.

[@jessebishop5239]

I was just gonna say this. I would even say it’s even S tier. Godly weapon for a North Star Smiter.

[@TheSpargasm]

Grief outshines astreon. Damn them runeword

[@TheStrahl]

You should have ranked them based on Classic play where runewords don't exist.

[@kobigames6771]

Hi, do u know if they fixed terrorized Meph TC and Loot Table ? Nothing special dropped to me by far.

[@dkay182]

No love for Earth Shifter Fury Druid? For shaaaaame, that's a fantastic gimmick build.

[@arsteel2388]

Only thoughts are I'd have dropped Gargoyle's Bite to C, and kept Shadow Dancers in A.

[@Heigberg]

As a HC player i need to advocate CoA tier S. @res, DR, Fhr, 1@skill and up to 2os.

[@lry8133]

Good callout. I bet CoA has tremendous value in HC.

[@norijagar]

You really phoned it in with this one huh? No stats layout.. no discussion really.. what's going on man?

[@Lollaffers]

Did Astreons get changed? I just recently found this and mine has +2 combat skills.

[@MichaelDionneDrummer]

As much as I love runewords, they removed the excitement of finding most of these TC87 uniques... They really should enhance them to compete with runewords

[@jameskillbot2867]

Can’t remember a single name of my d4 uniques and I played last week. So rough.

[@goshu7009]

This video reveals the main problem of Diablo 2 - 90% of the uniques are useless.

[@mervaldez3025]

COA S tier on pvp, COA A tier on pvm. Shadow Dancer S tier on PVP, A tier on PVM

[@c4master703]

I think Ghostflame is a little bit better than you think. It seems to be ok for a Zealot or a Daggerzone.

[@vvav]

It makes me sad that so many of these are just power creeped by runewords.

[@fudd3r91]

On tyreals might, they should add +1 tele. You'd get the tele and -100req. Making it different from nigma, where you have str req, but get the +2 skills. I'd trade +2 skills for -100req on some builds

[@whitealiens]

you know that if you slap enigma in Brest plate +torch and anni you can make 0str character, right?

[@brewman6218]

If you have anni and torch and maybe a couple other low strength +strength stuff, you can do mageplate enigma with zero points in strength.

[@abreuxiii]

Isnt arkaines valor tc 87 as well?

[@tpola3648]

eth executioners justice on swap for a chargedin is very fun :D

[@unholyiiamas]

I hate spirit. It's a negative for the game, especially with how easy it is to get.

[@intelligentdd1122]

Earth shifter D?! my favorite character, Armageddon Fury Druid begs to differ

[@Drakan86]

The Grandfather has sadly never really been a weapon barbarians used...even prior to the 1.10 runewords, Botd etc. The reason is it was way too slow to hit the whirlwind breakpoints cause back then only weapon ias mattered....so it sucked for WW....instead cruel coll blades were the best usually with the 3 socket chipped gem recipe....Fury in a Balrog blade was great .. If grandfather spawned with inherent ias or like 2 sockets back in the day it would have been King until 1.10....

[@brewman6218]

It would be usable with a shael in it and coupled with a grief phase blade.

[@ben10pa]

tyraels might should have might aura

[@S1nwar]

when you got nothing else to do in your day, sort 25 year old items^^

[@Lythforce2]

Where can I find a list of all tc87 ranked from most rare to least rare?

[@miothan]

My interpretation of that list: Only 3 items worth getting.

[@chicanoblvd]

The answer is to nerf runeword and improve certain uniques.

[@PapstJL4U]

Are all TC87 from post 1.10 ? Looking at uniques in the context of their patches could be interesting. 1.00, 1.07 (last classic only?), 1.09 and >1.10

[@securatyyy]

I got tyreals might from a cocoon in the spider lair

[@Drakan86]

The way to make Tyraels might an awesome armor would be like giving it a unique Aura like Salvation aura(like azurewrath has Sanctuary aura) or something similar...would make it a great armor for mercs etc even for certain character builds...

[@GO-nf5bp]

S-tier - psn lighning cold. Were is the gg fire uniq item.

[@swozzlesticks3068]

I wonder how good Earth Shifter would be if you removed the 10% FCR, increased the IAS to 20, and changed +7 to elemental skills to +7 shapeshifting skills... Yeah still worse than eth highroll ribcracker.

[@dabakrada5077]

How about your next playthru any class ssf White, set or UniqueTwo handed Axes only. Maybe th hammers too. I know there are no th axes but there are lots of unique th axes. Paladin would be fun.

[@alexisdurouchet4021]

I wish they'll add more endgame uniq items that compete with actual runeword. Or atleast buff most of them, there too many items that are meme, thinking of the necro crossbow and that kind of items. For most common runeword, they should be transitionnal item instead of best in slot. ( I don't mind the ultra late game runeword).

[@Chrisnado91]

Tyrael: 1 to Skills, 1 Tele, lvl 10 concentration

[@almir1011]

So, judging by this, runewords are top tier

[@zaug1561]

I'd rate Darkforce Spawn much higher in the A- to B+ range. You get more damage from it than spirit and once you socket it you can customize it more.

[@mapron1]

TC84 and TC81 tier lists incoming? :)

[@Gainz-mg2pq]

A tier Drop rate .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

[@roffo]

seems like grief needs a nerf

[@TyrantsRuin]

Llama, whered you get your d2r shirt??

[@whitealiens]

Windforce should be in S class tier since it is bis for bowazon and in par or even better than Faith. Knockback is huge for PvP on it coz it gives freedom for glove and head choice

[@stevenneice6720]

Used an astrians for the first month of ladder on my smiter

[@Heigberg]

I hav mix feelings abiut steelrend, some crushing blow and ed but in general i will go for LoH or rare/crafted gloves 🧤

[@hanliu1861]

windforce has to be S, since 1.09

[@doomhammer56]

I still want them to add 2 Auras to Tyrael's. Make it's rareness truly unique. The only item in the game with two auras. Give it a lvl 20 Might Aura and a lvl 20 Salvation Aura. (and also the +2 to skills)

[@brewman6218]

I'd be totally happy with 2 auras. You know what would make it interesting? 2 random auras so there would be all different kinds of Tyraels.

[@EmperorTerran]

COA has no place in S or A, not with 175 str requirement when what it offers is +1 skill, 15all res and 15dr and 2 sockets maybe. To put it before windforce is a fucking insult. People pray for windforce to drop... nobody really care for COA. OMG will my shako be slightly maybe better as I lose +1 skill, huge mana and life pool, and will need to pump like 30 points to str?

[@lry8133]

I would absolutely love a CoA to drop lol. It's BiS for some dueling setups btw. And great for HC.

[@megamastah]

Skill doesn't matter, res is just a nice to have add-on. COA is used for 15 DR + 2*Ber, sometimes with Jahs, mostly on barbs or pals, while every one of them is already "running" in an enigma - so no str problems. That's all there is to it.

[@turbo_brian]

Wow there are way less tc87 items than I figured there would be. Also I've found nearly none of them lol

[@mciejgda88]

I'm one of those casual weirdos who only plays with friends and never trade unless with said friends. This results in weird stuff like my merc running Tyraels Might + Steel Pillar on my cold rupture blizzard Sorc. For my weirdness I dropped that Tyreal's Might and Templars Might in same game in Terrorized Stony Tomb which from my understanding is really against the odds - correct me if I'm wrong

[@lry8133]

I could be mistaken, but the reason you probably ended up with both instead of 2x Templar's is that a unique won't drop twice in the same game. So I suspect you got Templar's first, then Tyrael's second, correct? It probably would have rolled Templar's but it couldn't anymore.

[@mciejgda88]

@@lry8133 I know of this mechanic but honestly it was few months ago by now and can't remember but it is more probable that it happened that way. But I had such a wtf moment then since it was withing 5 minutes span

[@exploringtheisle3475]

Do the sets review and suggest how they can be improved and what would you do with them

[@Mike-qb9kh]

WIndforce is kind forced into S just because of how bad Bows are other than Runewords.

[@lry8133]

Even then, there is really only 1 Runeword to use. And both WF and Faith are good. Better together even, I rolled a Faith then found a WF shortly after, so I have the Faith on an A1 merc now to hit the fastest breakpoint with the WF. It's definitely strong.

[@SeeYouInHeeLL]

Tyrael might must have +2 to skills