I remember finding a grandfather in a public baal run when I was like 12 years old... on a barbarian. It was magical.
@marijhorn Жыл бұрын
But exactly because of RW the game is playable now. Before that most builds kinda sucked. And with CD on the skills the RW make game less spammy.
@Varoxlol Жыл бұрын
I dont remember any of the uniques that I found in D4, last week :)
@Gregski3 Жыл бұрын
It just shows you how good of a game this is. Finding an item and you remember that experience for the rest of your life
@securatyyy Жыл бұрын
I bet you clicked soon fast
@kirbyrules55 Жыл бұрын
@@Gregski3 It also probably be your first time in your life getting that lucky with something, so of course you remember your first time(PG :D ). for me now being older anything rare i get i'm like cool for about 1 minute and then back to life.
@BonesEnjoi Жыл бұрын
So glad you went back to Diablo II this game is my favorite
@daniellarusso8012 Жыл бұрын
Astreon's Iron Ward is +2-4 Paladin Combat Skills, not +2-4 Offensive Auras. I'm surprised that website got it wrong, lol. I think a good roll is A-tier; great weapon to use on ubers. :)
@Jamersunify Жыл бұрын
Great early season weapon for uber smiters until wealth is built for a grief.
@Horus137 Жыл бұрын
I like Astreon's too, one of the great weapons for ubers before you can afford LW
@MrLlamaSC Жыл бұрын
Oh right! And yeah it is decent. Take grief away and it becomes amazing
@Ubeogesh Жыл бұрын
All of those weapons pale in comparison to Lawbringer when doing ubers. LW, grief, astreon... None give such control, safety AND damage. Also take away HotO and hammerdins will use 4skill Astreons
@jameswalsh5043 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. They got Templar's Might wrong as well. It's 1-2 offensive auras, not 1-2 combat skills. Seems like they mixed the two up.
@nenoman3855 Жыл бұрын
I wish they'd allow Indestructible uniques to roll eth. It'd allow a bunch of stuff to be viable without being overpowered.
@MrLlamaSC Жыл бұрын
Yeah it would help a little bit at least!
@twang5446 Жыл бұрын
And bows maybe. I feel like you could automatically give all unques indestructible as they roll eth, and they still won't be OP
@Yepmyaccount Жыл бұрын
@@twang5446 Eth windforce would be dope.
@twang5446 Жыл бұрын
@@Yepmyaccount would be great but still not OP because bowazon really need some love...
@Yepmyaccount Жыл бұрын
@@twang5446 Yeah. That's why I like the idea of small changes like that though. Gives a little bit of power in a reasonable way to help out certain builds. Plus an Eth windforce would be cool af. Already really rare, and then you find it eth on top? sexy
@Ronbotnik Жыл бұрын
this is really refreshing after seeing the D4 tierlist videos placing nearly all uniques in the game in D Tier
@thedropbear574 Жыл бұрын
I would go E or F Tier 😂
@Bloodwarrior678 Жыл бұрын
Found a 30 cold damage, 39 lightning and fire resist death's fathom from pindle yesterday. I'm blown away at how good it is and how lucky i got. I'm still so happy getting it lol
@willythemailboy2 Жыл бұрын
I gambled a Griffon's last ladder and about shit myself.
@stambe8605 Жыл бұрын
@@willythemailboy2 You can gamble that ?!?
@willythemailboy2 Жыл бұрын
@@stambe8605 If you're high enough level, but it's about a billion to one odds
@TheTamally Жыл бұрын
It's kinda sad how useless most uniques are because of runewords.
@edwarddewit43 Жыл бұрын
Shako, arach, eschutas, hoz, griffins, kiara, gore rider, Maras. Just to name a few gg items
@drmendozaenriquez Жыл бұрын
Some of them suck regardless of runewords.
@yanniblumstein1 Жыл бұрын
@@edwarddewit43 think he meant the TC87 Items in this video. Also Griffons was named as S tier item
@brakpseudonimu236 Жыл бұрын
@@edwarddewit43 I have no idea why hoz is so regarded, pally not only can use spirit without putting any points into strenght but also has up to 45% extra res.
@TraxisOnTheLines Жыл бұрын
@@brakpseudonimu236 +2 offensive auras, and technically more resist, with the option to socket it. It's not better, but there's an argument for it for raw damage and defense, just not QoL and DPS (because FCR)
@robingrind Жыл бұрын
D2 gameplay in a nutshell, since 20 years: 1) make a cold sorc, then play to hell (the complete game content) in 2 days 2) farm nm meph, hell meph, ancient tunnels (in that order) and lk runs until you are almost brain dead. only hunt the 30 or so items that every class uses because all other uniques, sets, runewords, rare/magic items are completely useless 3) make one of the following: hammerdin, javazon, smiter. do some stupid shit like cows, cs, ubers or something otherwise meaningless until your brain liquifies and oozes out of your ears 4) make some super shitty gimmick builds (see recent zeal paladin videos) who stand no chance in hell except you boost them with a cold sorc to like lvl 85 and give them super expensive end game items you farmed in step 2 and 3. do this until you are almost dead out of boredom 5) wait for ladder reset and start all over again at step 1)
@megamastah Жыл бұрын
Well you are not wrong. That's why I play like 5 hrs per month, jumping in for some quick CS or TC runs in pub games, non-ladder, and that's it. Sunk enough time already earlier on.
@Pavlo211 Жыл бұрын
Earthshifter is one of the best weapons for hybrid druids. It's often main weapon of ss+arma build weapon.
@bobnewkirk7003 Жыл бұрын
This is a great showcase of how the game has evolved past the initial design philosophy. Most of these items could stand to be buffed directly, as well as had the stat requirements reduced to more reflect the current state of stat builds. I know LLama has said it in the past but at one point (I think it was 1.10) monster HP was buffed but weapon and armor values were not buffed proportionately, so by doing that now it might help justify the stat requirements of Elite Bases.
@Ulve124 Жыл бұрын
would like to see PD2 version of this tier list to compare
@helpdeskjnp Жыл бұрын
Wish you could zoom in the window so there wasn’t any blank white space on the borders, as it’s impossible to see the letters on a mobile browser.. even after changing from 320p to 720p resolution. On a pc I think you can zoom the contents of a browser by holding down the Ctrl key and wheel upwards or backwards on your mouse.
@kenleibrick1390 Жыл бұрын
Thx for all the great content. You may not have blessed aim but are blessed with family.
@choupetto85 Жыл бұрын
Tyrael's might should have Might aura when equipped
@brewman6218 Жыл бұрын
Definitely. Maybe might and salvation. That would be super nice.
@crini413 Жыл бұрын
About the fathom, you're right. My blizz sorc has an orb with 3 cold, 3 blizz, 2 facets and it doesn't do as much as dfathom. That thing is nuts
@MrLlamaSC Жыл бұрын
Yeah the raw damage output is insane
@Potent_Techmology8 ай бұрын
@@MrLlamaSC please make a BiS breakdown for all classes and play styles show some item details bc we don't have everything memorized like you :(
@mapron1 Жыл бұрын
TC84 and TC81 tier lists incoming? :)
@farrattalex Жыл бұрын
Cool content. I would love to see the same tier list in which you differentiate between eth and non-eth version of the melee weapons. Especially for death cleaver that makes a huge difference.
@MadAtMax.300Blackout Жыл бұрын
Made my first spirit yesterday and itll be hard to replace. I might even double up and make a spirit shield too lol
@ryanomac27 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see some of the runewords rebalanced. Spirit Shields should be +1, 25 FCR max, halve the Vit and mana and ~30 to 35 rez. Same for Spirit sword.....
@whitealiens Жыл бұрын
I would say they should remove one, either weapon or shield. Having both is just to op
@exploringtheisle3475 Жыл бұрын
Do the sets review and suggest how they can be improved and what would you do with them
@KaldonWK Жыл бұрын
I know it would be kinda crazy to do so, but I actually would like them to make the next season like “season of the mute” or something, real basic seasonal effect. Runewords don’t work. The runes still drop, you can put them in items, just you only get the base effect of the rune. Everything else stays the same. Terror zones, sunders, etc. like what’s the worst thing that could happen? People don’t play the game for 3 months? It sounds fun.
@Lollaffers Жыл бұрын
Did Astreons get changed? I just recently found this and mine has +2 combat skills.
@ZachIdso Жыл бұрын
The earth shifter and stormspire I think are really cool. Character creation for the shifter may have been hurt a bit by the fire claw change though since the synergy bonuses don't match up anymore for fissure. Still those caster characters that can also use attacks make for a lot of fun gearing up and playing
@kobigames6771 Жыл бұрын
Hi, do u know if they fixed terrorized Meph TC and Loot Table ? Nothing special dropped to me by far.
@Lythforce2 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find a list of all tc87 ranked from most rare to least rare?
@Crazning88 Жыл бұрын
What about just turning all runewords into actual uniques? with corrected drop rates according to their impact of a build?
@lkajdklajscklj2112 Жыл бұрын
Tbh, runewords that require high runes are hard to find. Id argue enigma is harder to find than griffons. But nerf spirit for sure, that is just too powerful
@TyrantsRuin Жыл бұрын
Llama, whered you get your d2r shirt??
@PapstJL4U Жыл бұрын
Are all TC87 from post 1.10 ? Looking at uniques in the context of their patches could be interesting. 1.00, 1.07 (last classic only?), 1.09 and >1.10
@crimsonram6106 Жыл бұрын
It's so funny that I play D2R again because of D4 is not yet there..
@bobbobb5759 Жыл бұрын
I mean.. thats not that weird. Would any D2 players accustomed to what it is now, go back to the very first release of D2? fking doubt it lol
@dracolusus Жыл бұрын
I didn't even buy D4, been playing Diablo since early 1997, was even at a midnight release of D3. After the betas and server slam, knew I wasn't going to spend my currency equivalent of €70 on it.
@zoutsider88 Жыл бұрын
i cant find the answer anywhere, maybe someone here can help. it appears as though terrorized andariel has been nerf'd again for tc 87 items. is this true or can she still drop them when terrorized?
@stevenneice6720 Жыл бұрын
Can you rank the other treasure classes?
@skinnysteezy Жыл бұрын
Just found windforce last night in worldstone keep, need to make a bowazon for sure now
@whitealiens Жыл бұрын
I'm rocking bowazon this ladder with WF. Got it perfect for a Vex. That satisfying feeling when with multishoot you are combing monsters 2 screens away is amazing
@Drakan86 Жыл бұрын
The way to make Tyraels might an awesome armor would be like giving it a unique Aura like Salvation aura(like azurewrath has Sanctuary aura) or something similar...would make it a great armor for mercs etc even for certain character builds...
@jcashin82 Жыл бұрын
I'm running a GF & BK CB build while I wait for a Lo rune to drop (got every other rune...). It's actually pretty fun, and still pretty strong!
@fudd3r91 Жыл бұрын
On tyreals might, they should add +1 tele. You'd get the tele and -100req. Making it different from nigma, where you have str req, but get the +2 skills. I'd trade +2 skills for -100req on some builds
@whitealiens Жыл бұрын
you know that if you slap enigma in Brest plate +torch and anni you can make 0str character, right?
@brewman6218 Жыл бұрын
If you have anni and torch and maybe a couple other low strength +strength stuff, you can do mageplate enigma with zero points in strength.
@Robert-nq1vj Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t TC87 also drop in high enough level terror zones?
@MrLlamaSC Жыл бұрын
Yes. I think I mentioned that but maybe forgot
@Robert-nq1vj Жыл бұрын
@@MrLlamaSCyou did. I relistened and yes you did. Thank you!
@nicovega1831 Жыл бұрын
I used Ghostflame for my Avenger Paladin in PVE Parties and it was quite useful there but it is still not higher than a C Tier
@Heigberg Жыл бұрын
I hav mix feelings abiut steelrend, some crushing blow and ed but in general i will go for LoH or rare/crafted gloves 🧤
@Hazzzaa85 Жыл бұрын
would be cool to see a similar video for Rune Words. would also be cool to see this video but if Rune Words didn't exist.
@abreuxiii Жыл бұрын
Isnt arkaines valor tc 87 as well?
@brewman6218 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed rocking the Tyreals on a barb and a sorc before. All their other gear was ultra gg so it made up for the Tyreals and I did really well in all situations. It does give you some nice mods. In some situations it was nice having the rest in peace, cannot be frozen, faster run walk, and the def, strength, and res are all great. My sorc had a 5-5 light facet it hers, and the barb had a 40/15 in his.
@brewman6218 Жыл бұрын
Actually it was a 40ed 8 strength jewel in the barb's Tyreals.
@Kwioresma Жыл бұрын
I really wish that they make teleport more accessible. It's so heavily important that Enigma is literally best in slot for 90% of the builds. Put it on Tyraels or on any of the super mega rare but just not good enough items.
@whitealiens Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts and +2 all skills and boom, it becomes rarest and most valuable item in the game
@Despond Жыл бұрын
Ah D2, a game with actually interesting itemization.
@MikeyStreet3148 ай бұрын
I’m a father of 4… so Moo hanging in baby Lilith during the Death Clever segment (yes we grew up on it) had me sold. Baby Lilith FTW.
@antoinehogue9648 Жыл бұрын
You should use this liste and tell What you would change for each of these item to make them better !
@JirkaGasik Жыл бұрын
I have recently found an eth earth shifter. Useless, but probably the rarest item I have ever found.
@timothyd3608 Жыл бұрын
Are unique drops still bad in D2? I remember the last time I played, I didn't get much of anything even though hell. Then again, I didn't get shit from D4 either.
@Leftconsin Жыл бұрын
The big problem with poison dagger is once you get the synergies it always a lower DPS than the AOE poison nova.
@stevenneice6720 Жыл бұрын
Used an astrians for the first month of ladder on my smiter
@kalohr Жыл бұрын
Great video ! Nice T-shirt BTW !
@ksven Жыл бұрын
Astreon's should definitely be A tier. If you are running a FoHdin/Smiter hybrid it's pretty much best in slot for me, you get the +skills for the FoH and you have CB and +dmg for the smiting. Godly weapon that you sometimes can buy for cheap because people dont realize how good it is.
@jessebishop5239 Жыл бұрын
I was just gonna say this. I would even say it’s even S tier. Godly weapon for a North Star Smiter.
@TheSpargasm Жыл бұрын
Grief outshines astreon. Damn them runeword
@cgerman Жыл бұрын
That is one of the biggest problems with D2's itemization. The majority of the uniques is useless in endgame. Almost all the classes use the same runewords and uniques in the endgame. Spirit and HOTO, Grief, Harlequin Crest, Enigma, Fortitude Arachnid's Mesh. That's A LOT of builds using only these items. For a belt if you are a caster there is really no other option except Arachnid's Mesh. Tyrael's Might is kind of a joke if you take into account how rare it is. So I would say that 90% most uniques are useless in D2.
@whitealiens Жыл бұрын
This is because you think from FOMO build perspective. Try something like wwsin, kicksin, melee sorc, bowazon, psn necro, vindicator etc. and suddenly there is totally different gear and items. Also Tyraels might is pretty decent in PvP for Javazon plus it looks cool
@famip3679 Жыл бұрын
Never found a grandfather but found a wind force
@Heigberg Жыл бұрын
As a HC player i need to advocate CoA tier S. @res, DR, Fhr, 1@skill and up to 2os.
@lry8133 Жыл бұрын
Good callout. I bet CoA has tremendous value in HC.
@jdzazz4155 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t found all those items in my years of playing, but for whatever reason I have had darkforce spawn drop at least 7 or 8 times.
@ben10pa4 ай бұрын
tyraels might should have might aura
@c4master703 Жыл бұрын
I think Ghostflame is a little bit better than you think. It seems to be ok for a Zealot or a Daggerzone.
@Chrisnado91 Жыл бұрын
Tyrael: 1 to Skills, 1 Tele, lvl 10 concentration
@deadmo1 Жыл бұрын
nerfing spirit to +1 to all skills instead of 2 like they did in PD2 was the right amount of fixing so the item isint just BIS forever while the rarest piece is just a 4 socket monarch. What a terrible design flaw
@alexisdurouchet4021 Жыл бұрын
I wish they'll add more endgame uniq items that compete with actual runeword. Or atleast buff most of them, there too many items that are meme, thinking of the necro crossbow and that kind of items. For most common runeword, they should be transitionnal item instead of best in slot. ( I don't mind the ultra late game runeword).
@securatyyy Жыл бұрын
I got tyreals might from a cocoon in the spider lair
@jameskillbot2867 Жыл бұрын
Can’t remember a single name of my d4 uniques and I played last week. So rough.
@dabakrada5077 Жыл бұрын
How about your next playthru any class ssf White, set or UniqueTwo handed Axes only. Maybe th hammers too. I know there are no th axes but there are lots of unique th axes. Paladin would be fun.
@johnyshimon9387 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work your the man
@zaug1561 Жыл бұрын
I'd rate Darkforce Spawn much higher in the A- to B+ range. You get more damage from it than spirit and once you socket it you can customize it more.
@starlightxfury Жыл бұрын
the only placement I disagree with here is Astreon's, should have been higher. maybe not A tier, but definitely above Death Cleaver and Grandfather they really should buff plenty of uniques, Enigma, Grief and Spirit are just way too good, but nefring them wouldn't be as fun as buffing all the stuff that's lacking now
@uzwannabe Жыл бұрын
If the devs just buffed uniques to a point where they can compete with runewords the game would have so much more build diversity and a less linear gear progression.
@arsteel2388 Жыл бұрын
Only thoughts are I'd have dropped Gargoyle's Bite to C, and kept Shadow Dancers in A.
@LetsPlayBojangles Жыл бұрын
For solo self found, alot of these, especially the B tier ones, get way better value. Like if you find a high roll grandfather you can absolutely carve up hell difficulty of players 1-3 with a barb until you find a Lo for grief.
@theseze3675 Жыл бұрын
You should redo the list as if runewords didn't exist , would be cool to see where you rank them in that regard
@WorldLaughsWithYou Жыл бұрын
6:39 lol my ex was the same way always walking in when I was doing WFH video calls, vacuuming, getting into the video frame when I'm talking to clients and shit don't support the baby's head just let it flop around its good for em
@whitealiens Жыл бұрын
Windforce should be in S class tier since it is bis for bowazon and in par or even better than Faith. Knockback is huge for PvP on it coz it gives freedom for glove and head choice
@AbelFarkas4 ай бұрын
If you wanna use these cool items, come and play PD2 with us! Devs done a great job on balancing them, and giving them the spot they deserve!
@doomhammer56 Жыл бұрын
I still want them to add 2 Auras to Tyrael's. Make it's rareness truly unique. The only item in the game with two auras. Give it a lvl 20 Might Aura and a lvl 20 Salvation Aura. (and also the +2 to skills)
@brewman6218 Жыл бұрын
I'd be totally happy with 2 auras. You know what would make it interesting? 2 random auras so there would be all different kinds of Tyraels.
@SeeYouInHeeLL Жыл бұрын
Tyrael might must have +2 to skills
@intelligentdd1122 Жыл бұрын
Earth shifter D?! my favorite character, Armageddon Fury Druid begs to differ
@TengouX9 күн бұрын
It's always Spirit. I can't stand how that one item makes pretty much all unique scepters and shields obsolete. Honestly is why I switched to Stormshield on my sorc. Damage does go down but the defensive benefits makr the character much more comfortable.
@Niscimble Жыл бұрын
I hope they go back and do a small update to all the unique items at some point to make them stand up a little better to rune words
@brakpseudonimu236 Жыл бұрын
Actually Diablo, Andariel and Mephisto seem like a reasonable way to get them, all you need is TZ, lvl93 (char level 91) if I'm not mistaken.
@starhunter2770 Жыл бұрын
Char lvl doesn’t affect drops from monsters, only area and type of monster
@MrLlamaSC Жыл бұрын
Yeah but character level affects tz which in turn would drop. So ya terror zone farming the bosses is great
@starhunter2770 Жыл бұрын
OMG I never thought like that! So just like crafting you can kind of strategize farming better depending on your lvl, for example whether a TZ is better than a normal 85 area
@bobc9786 Жыл бұрын
need to start tweaking these uniques to be more useful for future patches
@SinVVV Жыл бұрын
On my first ever Amazon playthrough (which was a bowazon) I randomly dropped a Windforce with zero magic find on single player. I was 16 years old. This was more than 10 years ago now. To this day it is still the most insane and convenient drop I've ever had.
@xorxeloco8708 Жыл бұрын
d2r hype is real thx to d4
@olliebeast1012 Жыл бұрын
Earth Shifter is up there with Windforce but for a Druid. Can make builds happen.
@kuksio92 Жыл бұрын
I want a new unique weapon that can proc any of my offensive skills/spells on hit. Like 30% for lolz
@michaellui5108 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@twang5446 Жыл бұрын
Death's Fathm should go down to A IMO. Because of the cold sunder/mastery nerf Doom is a better option for cold sorc now for general farming.
@cruxis7072 Жыл бұрын
The plus damage on cold can not be beaten it’s S tier because of that not sure how Doom is any good for sorc?
@twang5446 Жыл бұрын
@@cruxis7072 Doom has -60 target cold res. With the cold mastery nerf -cold res has gained huge value for cold sorc
@cruxis7072 Жыл бұрын
@@twang5446 Ah I missed that part of the rune word but that being said I think it's enough to have the sunder charm and the sorc talent -cold res with enough skill points you should be good I believe.
@slof69 Жыл бұрын
makes me wanna play non expansion honestly
@gunrookie2523 Жыл бұрын
Great vid
@turbo_brian Жыл бұрын
Wow there are way less tc87 items than I figured there would be. Also I've found nearly none of them lol
@MichaelDionneDrummer Жыл бұрын
As much as I love runewords, they removed the excitement of finding most of these TC87 uniques... They really should enhance them to compete with runewords
@mciejgda88 Жыл бұрын
I'm one of those casual weirdos who only plays with friends and never trade unless with said friends. This results in weird stuff like my merc running Tyraels Might + Steel Pillar on my cold rupture blizzard Sorc. For my weirdness I dropped that Tyreal's Might and Templars Might in same game in Terrorized Stony Tomb which from my understanding is really against the odds - correct me if I'm wrong
@lry8133 Жыл бұрын
I could be mistaken, but the reason you probably ended up with both instead of 2x Templar's is that a unique won't drop twice in the same game. So I suspect you got Templar's first, then Tyrael's second, correct? It probably would have rolled Templar's but it couldn't anymore.
@mciejgda88 Жыл бұрын
@@lry8133 I know of this mechanic but honestly it was few months ago by now and can't remember but it is more probable that it happened that way. But I had such a wtf moment then since it was withing 5 minutes span
@tpola364811 ай бұрын
eth executioners justice on swap for a chargedin is very fun :D
@sc4ofi31d Жыл бұрын
All we really established here is that "grief exists" and "spirit exists" just don't bother with any of these useless unique guys. The most you ever really need is a Lo rune and your set..
@lkajdklajscklj2112 Жыл бұрын
If we didnt have grief all melee would be useless. Spirit is op for sure and needs nerf. Even with 2 skill its too good. Imo make it 1 skill and remove fhr from it. OR make it cost zod, ohm or something similar
@artemisamberdrive583 Жыл бұрын
Add +3 to all skills on Tyrael's and it's price sky rockets to Event Horizon
@Tweakerbythespeaker Жыл бұрын
I mean, I see why crown of ages is better than most things in this video, but it doesn't really compare to griffon's eye --- what build is actually using crown of ages? Edit: I spoke too soon, you moved it to A lol.
@lry8133 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely BiS for some dueling setups
@justinhildebrand1515 Жыл бұрын
All they would have to do is make some of these items be able to spawn eth and they would have a much better use
@miothan Жыл бұрын
My interpretation of that list: Only 3 items worth getting.
@bobc9786 Жыл бұрын
baby llama makes an appearance
@swozzlesticks3068 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how good Earth Shifter would be if you removed the 10% FCR, increased the IAS to 20, and changed +7 to elemental skills to +7 shapeshifting skills... Yeah still worse than eth highroll ribcracker.