5 Things I Hate About The Lexus GX460

[@JavierCR25]

True, the whole car is a bit “outdated” but that’s the whole thing and what makes it reliable.

[@BackroadExploration]

I agree for the most part. The interior and infotainment center could be updated without compromising reliability.

[@JavierCR25]

@@BackroadExploration you’d be surprised. As a former MB, BMW and Land Rover owner, those were some of the most failure prone items. Screens randomly going off, sensors failing, connectivity going down, it’s just the nature of the beast. A lot of us don’t care for having apps and stuff in our car systems, just music and the cameras.

[@BillReals]

2011 Gx469 owner, you buy them used. I paid, $14k for mine. You bought an old school, reliable V8, stop it with the fuel economy I can see, you bought the lower trim, and year. You don’t have the air suspension You also bought a 2014+, which added that stupid approach and departure angle Mine had remote start, it works, the complaint should be, that it turns off when you open a door The radio/infotainment system sucks. I bought a Phoenix audio to replace it. Interior is quite nice, not sure I agree with the criticism here The things it’s missing, are the reason it will be here and running in 3O years.

[@marcosalejandrolirag.7364]

You bought 2 generations before the last 460 and claim you paid luxury price? I doubt that. I bought a 2023 and it’s ages better inside, infotainment is current, ventilated seats are great. You bought a 7-year old car my friend, you got what you paid for, sorry.

[@BackroadExploration]

I’m glad you love the GX it’s an awesome rig. But the entire platform is dated (that’s why they did a complete overhaul of it). If you compare any Model year GX460 to its competitors it’s not as luxurious. The 2023 is the nicest one but still not as nice as its competition. Look at any professional review and you will see the same feedback.

[@marcosalejandrolirag.7364]

@@BackroadExploration I think that what you pay for when you buy Toyota products it is mainly quality and reliability, other brands give you more luxury features but they are always giving you problems. I extensively researched all those “professional” reviews for over a year and at first I could not wrap my head around paying such a premium for a gx460, but just compare depreciation rates, reliability scores, number of recalls on well established platforms like Silverado, GMC, F150 and Ram… they are miles behind Toyota and that’s when my decision got clearer and clearer with time. Me, I rather sacrifice gadgets and gimmicks for peace of mind when I’m in the middle of nowhere, one thing I agree with you, is that if you are not off-roading there are better options out there, even under Toyota’s umbrella ( BTW, my 2023 has remote start)

[@BackroadExploration]

@marcosalejandrolirag.7364 no doubt Toyota holds the best reliability for sure. But seems to me that over the course of like 10 years where basically nothing changed on the platform they could have done some more upgrades to the dated systems and for sure should always have remote start. You will love the 23 it’s the perfect solution to me having updates and the awesome drivetrain. Make sure to checkout my other video on all the things I love .

[@vamosnippon]

I have a BMW, and I know what luxury is. Reliability is a real luxury. What’s so luxury about a car if it’s at the shop unable to operate at its maximum capability.

[@abdullaalkaabi8283]

No buttons for the AC to control is never a reliability (1) which he already clearly demonstrated. When it comes to reliability of Toyota compared to American brands, do you calculate how much gas you do save in an American car compared to a Toyota to well conclude wether it is reliable or not; if you do save on monthly bases gas in an American car, while the Toyota cost alot of gas on monthly bases then we cannot accurately say the depreciation of the American car was a loss, due to the fact it deprived you positively from losing the money of gas, which is never stated by Toyota fans.

[@alexkostenyuk]

Thanks for sharing, I have 2014 gx , same color, and my screen freezes, it’s really sucks , lates model gx460 they changed whole dash and screen and added apple play , looks much modern but it’s only on 2022 and 2023 I think

[@BackroadExploration]

Right. They updated for the last out going year. Much nicer.

[@chriss1762]

@@BackroadExploration you can get new upgraded car play in older models

[@BackroadExploration]

@chriss1762 do you know of a good system? I’ve heard mixed reviews.

[@steveegbert7429]

Nice pair of impressions Jared. Lifestyle Overland just did a review of his impression on the GX550 a couple days ago. That one looks pretty sweet with a lot of things improved. If I ever have to replace my 2016 4Runner, I might look that direction. However I'm only 63,000 miles in so it might be a while.

[@BackroadExploration]

The new GX looks fantastic and addresses almost all of my issues with the 460. I’m hopeful they end up being as good reliability wise. I could see one on our garage in the future after they have worked the kinks out and come down a bit in price on the used market.

[@JavierCR25]

@@BackroadExploration true, but I guess the target demographic who buys these really don’t care about fancy cameras and what not, but yeah it’s dated, all of it, and hence why we love it hahaha

[@chriss1762]

@@BackroadExploration Well you are going to be disappointed when you see the interior in the new GX550, its plasticky and very Toyota like,

[@BackroadExploration]

@chriss1762 that’s not good to hear. I’ve seen videos, but I have not seen one in person.

[@deldeek]

I think if you really want to get the Gx you gotta choose your battles , you don’t get in the Gx and blast it’s interior it’s an off roader, you get into it for its under pinnings and the backbones of a beast that it is ! You want nice interior get into Acura , Mercedes , bmw etc and have fun spending tons of $$$ in maintenance

[@BackroadExploration]

Certainly have to choose your battles with any rig. But Lexus Charges premium pricing for a less than premium interior. Which is why I say if you don’t plan to tow or off-road you will likely be happier with a different rig.

[@Pennychaser1]

I own 2017 with sport pkg. Infotainment does suck. Would love buttons for fan speed. Having said that you can add andoid auto and carplay with Beatsonic module to update it. But with GX550 better pray screen doesn't break because it'll be $10k+ to replace it I don't really offroad so oem bumpers don't really matter to me

[@BackroadExploration]

I should have added beat sonic. I added the phone mount that had a similar install as bestsonic and not enough foresight to do it at the same time.

[@swidahooverlanding2867]

I purchased my wife a 2017 4runner SR 5 last year. I have to say I love it. But, I like clunky things. The screen on the 4runner basically only runs the audio/hands free phone. Heat, A/C controls are all manual knobs, which I like a lot better than screen time. We had a 2014 Cherokee and I hated to have to go to the screen to make things work in the vehicle that would be much easier to use a knob and or slide control. It did come with remote start though.... Thanks for the video! George.

[@BackroadExploration]

I’d prefer the knobs and dials. Especially vs the mixture

[@damonbilling7746]

Electronics, especially head units have been reliable for 40 years so I'm not sure why Toyota chose to not take more risks with their infotainment systems. I don't know a manufacturer who's had a recall on their infotainment. The infotainment in the GX is so cumbersome and delayed it's almost useless. It would be impressive in the 1980's maybe. The delay is ridiculous. If Toyota would have just concentrated on a really good screen mirroring system for the cell phone, it would've sufficed.

[@ramrod890]

Thanks for sharing. For me, I wish there was an option to not* have a sunroof, I just wish I had more head room. 2014+ 4Runners in Canada all come with sunroofs. I’ll just get an xterra or FJ in the meantime.

[@BackroadExploration]

Does the sunroof take more space? Seems likes it’s ingress. But it is noisier for sure.

[@jamesvirga9496]

Lexus remote start is a joke. I have a RX and a 23GX and you can remote start from the app and the key fob but it shuts off as soon as you touch the door handle. Just plain dumb and it is that way on both of mine.

[@ck4391]

Love the GX, only reason I bought a Bronco over it was because at the same price the Bronco had more off road features, and I was looking for a turn key solution over a build project that I would usually do. Funny you mention the remote start, I'm surprised Lexus doesn't have a remote start on an app. I think even if you don't get a high trim package you can still remote start any Bronco using the Ford app.

[@BackroadExploration]

I have another car that uses the app it’s better than a fob IMO. I love starting it before leaving work and it’s ready when I get there. No doubt the Bronco has more features and aftermarket support. Cool rigs IMO.

[@Keir333]

Great video! I currently own both a 2011 and a 2016 GX460. I do have one question though... When you said: "The entire interior of this is a nice vehicle, don't get me wrong, like I came from a Jeep Wrangler. It is much nicer that my Jeep Wrangler JK" Were you trying to tell us that you were "just kidding" when you said JK, or were you just referring to the model of your Wrangeler? 🤔

[@BackroadExploration]

I was coming from a JK model Wrangler. The JK is the older model. The JL is the current edition. The GX is much nicer than the JK.

[@nml5536]

its real wood dude, from the home screen on the touchscreen, just tap climate to go to the climate menu.. you dont have to do analog to digital. Infotainment will always be dated.

[@BackroadExploration]

You are right. It is real. But looks and feels fake/cheap and doesn’t improve the vehicle IMO. When mine starts it loads the NAV screen perhaps that’s something I can adjust in settings. So to get to climate I have to click climate or home analog then use the screen to adjust. Perhaps there’s another way to it. But that just goes to show how clunky it is.

[@Sh0cKwavE__]

With regard to price, a lot of times when I look for GX in the used market it is similarly priced to 5th gen 4runner all else being equal. Maybe the brand makes it depreciate faster than the 4runner.

[@BackroadExploration]

I agree. Which is a positive to me. You get several features and a V-8 for the same price .

[@billywithers9085]

At least you have the heated and cooled seats 😂 my ‘17 doesn’t

[@BackroadExploration]

How is that possible in a car this age. 🤯

[@colinkennedy8523]

I get it but .. I have a '22 and the interior feels better than an Audi I had, it has a more modern ICE system, has remote start, real wood on the wheel, dash, and doors. Approach and departure angles are bad, no question. Fuel economy isn't great, but I can manage 18-19mpg if I'm trying for it, but I didn't get it for economy vs. ability and overall design for resilience.

[@JeepCherokeeful]

1 thing I hate are people that complain about fuel economy when they daily an off road rig…

[@BackroadExploration]

Problem is fuel economy in this thing is poor in stock form. And gets significantly worse with modifications which is the point I’m trying to make.

[@blakenelson4045]

I don't agree with you this is the real deal , I didn't buy a mobile entertainment center . I bought it for the south dakota blizzards . Not to play games this thing is well worth the 34 k I paid for a 2019 gx premium with 61k miles , this will last the test of time

[@cardp17]

i'd look into a tune. they can increase mpg, torque and hp.

[@BackroadExploration]

I’ll have to do some research. My experience with tunes limited) is in the diesel space which seems to help with what you mentioned but reduced reliability.

[@vadim9342]

I wanted to ask, how tall is your GX in inches? The reason being is that I also want to do a similar setup to what you have, but I want to make sure it'll fit in my 80" tall garage

[@BackroadExploration]

It’s almost exactly 80inches. Does look to be like 79 1/2

[@vadim9342]

I'm planning to not do the roof rack, so it'll probably be around 77-78 inches I'm assuming?

[@totalglitch]

Found a 2019 with 22k miles base model for 39,900 good deal? I'm wanting one for longevity. Also been looking at the Honda pilot trailsport but it 11k higher has warranty and lower interest rate but not sure if those will last 500k. I'm looking for a solid long lasting vehicle. Unfortunately mpg sucks. I like the hybrid RAV4 woodland but it has the CVT transmissions and I am not a fan. Thanks. Any input would be great.

[@BackroadExploration]

I have not kept a pulse on prices for a bit. But that is a better deal than what I paid two years ago. Mine is a 2017 base. Had 38k miles spent 38k. That was not during peak pandemic but prices were for sure inflated. If you plan to off-road or tow I’d go with the GX. If you never really plan to spend time off-road or only do very mild forest roads the RAV4 or Pilot will give you much better MPGs.

[@blakenelson4045]

I bought a 2019 gx premium with 61k miles for 36k bucks ,you did good

[@robertdemartino2081]

Yeah that's crazy it didn't have a remote start especially for a Lexus and for that price range but you know it's even crazier I just leased a brand new Acura MDX 2022 3 years ago it was a base model with small package but imagine my dismay when I realized it didn't have remote start and if I'm not mistaken it didn't have front sensors I believe and the last almost worse thing I couldn't believe my eyes but unless you got higher than the base model the only interior options were leatherette which I've never heard of before especially on an Acura because I've always loved the Acuras and from what I can remember the only thing that was even an option was the navi and any extra BS stuff otherwise everything was always standard on an Acura and I really couldn't believe that you had to spend at least another 10 grand on a package or get the highest model to be able to get a free remote start I swear I thought and hoped it was a misprint and had to go in person and ask them about it now don't get me wrong I love and loved everything about it overall but I am just truly totally disgusted that Acura has became that petty everything is an option an extra money like BMW which I always hated about them, nevertheless it's an absolute amazing car to look at inside and out and comfortable to drive every day but I am still in disbelief of how low Acura has let themselves get because after I put 7000 cash down at signing there's absolutely no reason I should have still been paying anywhere near $700 a month for a 2022 base model MDX especially considering I was told I was getting it with the technology package because it was a pre-ordered leftover that somebody didn't want because the price had went up from what they were told 6 months before that and I understand that was a messed up time of trying tulisa brand new car which I got suckered into and the sad thing is I would have been better off staying with my beautiful silver 2019 Ford F-150 XLT four-door four-wheel drive with the EcoBoost which I put about $4,000 down and it was only paying about $600 a month and that was fully loaded besides the rear infotainment center other than that it was amazing on gas and never ever had a problem with space which the panoramic roof made it feel endless and the best part is I could take it anywhere treated how I wanted and still made it look sexy after a home car wash I definitely love that thing and the sad part is I could have owned that after the money I just spent leasing this car for the last 3 years which I loved in every way except for their new pricing which Acura has gotten out of hand there...! Anyway sorry for my rambling and my point is I was looking to get a new GX possibly but now I'm not too sure but because I won't be using it for off-roading but if I was going to buy a used car to keep and buy out and then that's definitely still on my list because like it said it's super reliable and will last a pretty long time which you normally would want in a car that you're going to buy to own so anyway thank you for your story hope you have the time to read mine and you get a kick out of it besides I hope it answers some people's questions and helps with anyone's curiosity about where Acura and Lexus are heading considering their the two luxury brands of two of the best, most reliable, long lasting and most sold cars in the market history ever...

[@TheReeho]

What other luxury SUV 7 seater would you recommend with the understanding that you won’t be doing any off road driving with the Toyota reliability? I can’t think of any …. 😭

[@BackroadExploration]

No doubt Toyota leads in reliability. It depends on what your goals and expectations are? Most people don’t keep cars for extended periods. If you want a car that can run 100-175k miles most brands will get you there with little to no big issues. If you want to go beyond that then I’d stick to a Lexus or Toyota. LTZ Tahoe’s and Higher trim Level expeditions are as nice as Lexus SUVs and will get you in that range mileage wise with little to no real issues

[@dav31078]

If you just need 7 seats and no offroading you could look at something like a newer Honda Pilot Elite/Acura MDX or the Grand Highlander/Lexus TX. Unibody but have the bells and whistles with better fuel economy.

[@BackroadExploration]

@dav31078 this!

[@billlam7756]

Please go buy a BMW, take it offroad and pay an arm and legs for oil change and maintenance

[@Overland-460]

The audio on my 2020 ia suck too, it cuts off and so annoyed it. Oh by the way, my 2020 does have the remote start but it sucks and i don't even borther to use it anymore. But i love my GX460😅

[@BackroadExploration]

What’s bad about the remote start? The range or does it just not work well?

[@sebastiantello4143]

he ain't wrong

[@robertherrmann4823]

You complain about luxury aspects of your GX. Why then did you not go with an LX? Did you even test one? My 2011 LX seems like it would have suited you better. And I have 33’s also, and get over 15 mpg combined with the 5.7L. I test drove the GX and do not think Lexus was aiming at luxury for that particular model. As for off road in the LX, elephant hill was not a problem, although I wish I had a spotter. Like they used to say in the Army, “Don’t bitch, transfer”.

[@BackroadExploration]

The LX is awesome. It and the Land Cruiser were out of my price range. The 5.7 is such an awesome engine.

[@olegnovikov6442]

You hate 5 things but you love 10 things about it ❤

[@BackroadExploration]

Lots more pros than cons when it comes to this rig for me.

[@olegnovikov6442]

@@BackroadExploration no car is perfect. Latest and greatest tech is not this vehicle. For me as well, I like well built, made in Japan, reliable and dependable. Can’t have all in one.

[@BackroadExploration]

@olegnovikov6442 for the most part I agree. For example our Mazda has more tech features than the GX. It’s a basic economy car and Mazdas have nearly as good of reliability ratings as Toyota/Lexus sometimes better depending on the segment. When it comes to the infotainment Lexus is just behind. The new vehicles have made big improvements.

[@ovid4]

Sounds like you didn’t do your research if these are ‘reasons’ nit to buy.

[@BackroadExploration]

I did buy. But these might be a reason others may not want to. Which is the purpose of the video.

[@drwisdom1]

Remote start is a completely unnecessary feature that will leave you stranded when it breaks.

[@BackroadExploration]

I’ve never disagreed with a comment more.

[@drwisdom1]

​@@BackroadExplorationOnly children are impressed with remote start. It is a perfect example of what is wrong with modern vehicles and the people who buy them. If your goal is to waste gas, then just get in your car, start it, get out, and breathe the fumes.

[@BackroadExploration]

🤦

[@FortuneRed55]

Imo, the clearance issues make this not an off-road vehicle. It’s like the Grand Cherokee. They pretend it carries its off-road heritage, but it just clearly wasn’t the priority in the design.

[@BackroadExploration]

It for sure was not a priority in the design. However you can make very capable just takes some modifications. More than some vehicles less than others.

[@genesiscollins6213]

Not an off road vehicle? Tell that to the Jeep guys I regularly rescue in my GX

[@Cocora22]

It'll cost you a few bucks but you can upgrade to apple car play

[@BackroadExploration]

Do you have a system you like?

[@ClaudiaMartinez-fi5me]

Can you?

[@BackroadExploration]

@ClaudiaMartinez-fi5me yes it requires an aftermarket accessory. Beat Sonic is the most popular. www.beatsonicusa.com/lgvifcb4.html

[@art2lyd12]

Beatsonic hands down ​@@BackroadExploration