5 Things I love about the: Honda MSX 125/Grom

[@AKAMustang]

"My arse is used to much harder...", wasn't sure where this sentence was going at first.

[@Caaarrl94]

hahahahh same bro i was like o_O

[@trevorsoar8168]

You have to watch you arse in London with all the fudge ferrets and bottie burglars that stand on street corners in London plying there trade for arse meat of the unwary!.

[@alexhere18]

Absolutely adore mine. Your videos convinced me a year ago to do my CBT and buy a Grom. No regrets. The seat is bearable, the left fairing with the broken clip is slightly irritating, the 12" wheels in sump lines on dual carriageways is hateful. Paying under £5 for 120 miles is bloody lovely.

[@Braaadliy]

I remember walking the streets of London and there you was at the lights with the Grom, didn't realise it was you at first! The bike looks and sounds nice.

[@MrMuffin1996]

You could be right with the vibrations from the exhaust. I got a grom and before i changed exhaust from stock, to a full yoshimura titanum system, it was smooth. With the yoshi on it vibrates just like you say :) King regards, Some danish rider ;)

[@Snowshooterjj]

So I had the same problem on my Honda 125CBR 2005. I took the seat apart and found out they use a very tough foam. So I bought a more soft foam from Dunelm and then used spray adhesive straight into the seat base and carved it back. Covered it with faux leather from hobby craft and now it is perfect. Love the vids, inspired me to start biking :)

[@tugazeiteiro913]

OMG.. I just love the MSX.. I put 32000 km on mine in just 2 years! Last april I upgrade it to a NC750X, but i really miss the MSX.. it's a really fun bike to ride!

[@rx2k895]

Just came across your channel FINALLY A MOTO VLOGGER IN ENGLAND

[@Insidious589]

RJ is used to much stronger vibrations on his arse. ;)

[@PeterOekvist]

Wonder how my girlfriend.....

[@burns0100]

If I'm not mistaken its the frame on the Grom thats making those vibrations suck for long rides.

[@ladiesman2171717]

I bought my Msx brand new 3 weeks ago, I have the same problem with the seat, doesn't put me off enjoying it though, I just shuffle a little in the seat, doesn't make it as bad

[@jerradcampbell74]

I adore mine as well RJ and I too experienced the numb ass. I think the seat is too firm and cheap. my Grom is stock with the exception of the Fender Eliminator kit and Maxxis knobby Tyres... ( this bike performs just as well off road as it does on). :) many thanks to you, sir for what you do. you have a friend here in the United States if you ever happen to travel across the pond. The Blue Ridge Parkway is less than 1 mile from my house and it's an excellent place to ride, being 40+ years old... it suits me and my Grom. Please, keep up the good work.

[@trd8749]

I have an msx125, don't get any weird vibrations, I have a cheap full after market Black Widow exhaust system, sounds as good as any other for a fraction of the price and made in UK. I've ridden mine for about 3 hours before with the only complaint being the straps on my backpack making my shoulders ache, so not really the bikes fault.

[@drummerdavemax]

I just got a seat from Corbin to replace the stock one ...cost a bit much but feels really good now!!!!

[@WickedEngineer]

the vibration is just there at a certain rpm and load, it even brings the tank covers in resonance

[@iamandreja]

Fun fact, "grom" means "thunder" in Serbian :)

[@Alex-ei6qr]

Probably in all Slavic languages...

[@nessarytm6340]

@@Alex-ei6qr Yeah

[@vanseba9941]

"my arse is used to much harder things" ;)

[@saucysimpson259]

he says that no where in the video

[@vanseba9941]

+luke simpson i know :D it was just a joke

[@mannyechaluce3814]

he he, Hellarious :D

[@vanseba9941]

+Frank Underwood these days you can't say anything in the internet cos there is slways that one guy who is butthurt about something ....smh

[@vanseba9941]

+Frank Underwood ?

[@TheGreenGrom]

I don't think that it is the Akra (even though I have the same pipe). Many people have the same complaint. I've changed my seat and it's much better. Check out the corbin seats available. They are real pieces of art and comfortable too.

[@EddWolf78]

My MSX125 gets a bit hard on the seat too after a few miles and I still have the stock exhaust system on it. I usually just stand up on it for a few seconds on the straights and move around on the seat a little lol. I've seen a LOT of after market seats though for around or below the £100 mark so it could be a simple fix!

[@NinjaLifeCrisis]

Love this series RJ!

[@manuelstrondl1797]

I've got the same problem, however I've got a KTM 640 LC4 from '05. I hope 625 ccm single-cylinder is explanation enough

[@ericsson5207]

My Gilera SMT 50 has a very hard seat. I usually just ride it to school but sometimes i travel longer journeys and its not comfortable.

[@TheThailand101]

MSX125👌Really enjoy these reviews👍

[@seppebauters7196]

Because off the small tires you feel a lot more bumps, and the vibrations because off the high rpm on a small bike. I have the same thing with my 50cc Honda Dax replica.

[@KrystekkCF]

i have the same problem with my honda varadero xl125 at 70mph of riding for 1 hour i think it is the vibrations from the engine to the frame

[@RS2Racer91]

Can't wait for the "5 Things..." about the SMR511

[@Carsmorevlogs]

I have a stock seat with after market exhaust my seat also feels slightly uncomfortable after riding a while.

[@KrystekkCF]

i own a honda varadero xl125 and at the motorway speeds of 70mph riding non stop for almost 1 hour and then when i get off the motorway i feel the same thing my bum and my legs feel numb. Could it be the vibration from like the engine?

[@ukriderkawasaki7309]

Going for a test ride tomorrow!

[@nigelnitrogen1778]

my msx is the same the numb bum issue only at high rpm which is majority of the time, thought mine was the only one that done it

[@SoopaBee]

I'm honestly not a fan, but the mods that you've done make it VERY attractive!

[@ГерманКокурин-ъ9л]

What a little lovely bike 😀

[@tomdavies1406]

I love that thing! Its so cute :)

[@BoBBy11oyd]

Hi RJ, i have exact same akra full system, my arse used to feel numb from the vibration with stock seat, but the sponge of my new curved shaped seat seems to null the vibrations. Try it

[@t1mcouz3ns]

thinking of getting one for up in aberdeen concodering there is no bypass here i hate driving so mutch may aswel walk lol

[@DrumFattayDrum]

So many pros... only 1 con 😅 best scooter-like bike ever! red is nice on a grom

[@trevorsoar8168]

Grom seats are hard changed mine for a custom seat from Thailand now I don't suffer ball ache or a numb arse on long journeys!!!.

[@MrBaileyHD]

my lexmoto venom 125 really vibrates around 70 to the point I have to lift off the seat because it tickles.... perfect at 60 though

[@jdogg661420]

ive rode mine for hours and im fine. but im short and only 135 lbs or so. maybe you need a wider seat? i also dont sit in that down area i sit more on the top part before that slope.

[@Gwertop1234]

Had the same feeling on my 125 duke. With the akra installed I feel much more vibrations in my feet and my arse and get tired much quicker!

[@arwenx7]

Replacing the seat cured the numb bum syndrome on my bike! Although you could probably get away with just getting a seat cover and that may do the trick.

[@ShaneOckersz]

i did have the same problem honda ruckus , it was stock

[@TheGiovanniOfficial]

RJ it could be the vibrations at full speed, i have a ktm duke 125 with the akra and is the same for me

[@callumg98]

The seat isn't too bad. I rode to London from the midlands (4hr ride, each way), and I was fine.

[@CloroxBleachperkelehomoseksi]

Callum Griffin how long trip is that

[@DarkDevil6906]

Im looking at getting one, im 182cm ,95kg and broad, would it be suitable for me? im mainly going to be using it to go to and from college and to and from work. Is it capable of reaching 70mph and if not what bike would you suggest ?

[@TheExopolitics]

I get a lot of vibrations from the handlebars and foot pegs mostly going 55-60mph. It's so insane that vibrations goes up your legs and into your ass.

[@MotoGirl]

I find the seat very comfortable...

[@kevkix4122]

What's a good beginner bike? Would the Grom be a good one?

[@TVRoadLook]

Kymco Downtown 350I ABS test ride please

[@JamesDC42]

What are all the mods that you've done to the MSX and do you do it to all your bikes?

[@DeanosRides]

Arse getting sore! I had the CRF250L. SAME THING! 50kms of riding and you could hardly walk!!!! I think it might just be the single cylinder that does it.... It's crazy!

[@johnnymac4288]

Who do you insure your bikes with? Not many will touch them with mods.

[@joereed7326]

Well thats that then,,,im geting one,,,an APROVIC,,and some heat mesh,,,,🍀🔥RJ

[@XeroBounds]

Is it hard for a tall person to ride? (probably a stupid question)

[@DaytonaGray4]

its funny that in finland 125cc is maybe most used bike or maybe 50cc im not sure but still :D everybody is like "what is that 125cc" in finland we are like "damn nice 125cc" :D

[@ByMezo]

totta:D

[@dan_noo]

Lol, for safety, but id like to go to finland sometimes, or live there, they said that place got nice education system

[@DaytonaGray4]

+Herdannu Febrian yep we have

[@DaytonaGray4]

+Herdannu Febrian but its mostly not for safe its because in finland driving licenses are so fucking expensive and you have to be 15 years old for 50cc to get license, 16 to get 125cc license or have to be 18 to get license for like up to 500cc then you have to get better license to get higher than 500cc and 50cc license costs about 550€ 125cc license costs like 1000€(atleast im not sure i dont have 125) and that up to 500cc costs maybe like 1500€ or more

[@MagirusLP]

+Atte Liikanen That's less expensive than here in germany. I paid ~1500 Euros for my A1 license (125cc) and the B license (Car) costs like up to 1800 Euros. That's insane

[@NightRyder-ph1sx]

To R J, what are your opinions on a Yamaha YZF 125 (2014 plate)??. have you ridden one before and would you personally ride this in city a-b. What are the pros and cons about it. Thanks.

[@dan_noo]

i think cause our body is bigger than grom body, its bad ergonomic make us feels uncomfortable and make some pain for a long ride since this thing means not to ride for a long trip , unless you got small bodies, its perfect bike for youngster biker if they wanna learn to ride

[@dylanmorrison8543]

I can't decide between the 2014 style and the 2017 new body style of the Grom...

[@fnq-8890]

RJ I know you like your enduro riding so if have time Cek out the CREB Track in North Queensland Oz, it's from "riding with Tom" ( Cape York Jungle adventure part 2) cheers.

[@encinetti]

so in love with this bike... i just want 5 of them :)

[@cappamura]

I love everything about my GROM =)

[@steviebboy69]

Yes it is a nice bike for sure and i would love to get one some time, at least they are pretty cheap. It was funny when you were saying your arse goes numb. normally when you ride for ages that happens didn't they call that the numb bum syndrome.

[@auomauom]

Once in awhile I ride 100 miles round trips on my grom, and that's usually is about 3-4 hours. My hands, my ass, my feet all get numb, and usually the withdrawal symptoms last until the next day. Something about the horizontal engine mount that gives off this insane vibration. Hopefully someone designs rubber engine mounts.

[@mototux7517]

I don't own the Grom, but my 1-cyl TU250X causes numb butt after about an hour.

[@krunalmule7604]

Use aftermarket air filter like k&n , it really brings vibration down .

[@louisStyleeeeee97]

really

[@MOTOPT]

RJ You forgot, "and we can take it in your pocket." I love the MSX, was going to buy one, but I'm very tall, I looked like a Gargoyle on it. :-). V

[@Grant5321]

Are you going to try kawasaki's grom (z125) I think

[@princejamalminhas3271]

which wheels did you get to replace the standard ones?

[@NotGreig]

be good with a 2 stroke 125 engine

[@KritKunwar]

waiting for you to do "5 things you love about" your Superduke.. :)

[@kinopic]

RJ,do you think about to new MSX? I said GROM in Japan. Have a nice ride♪

[@storm7078]

He said before it is nice except for the sound which is a deal breaker.

[@timschwarze1739]

Did I spot a non-Schuberth helmet in the background? That was an AGV AX8 Evo, if I am not mistaken. Looks good anyway, RJ! Much love from Germany

[@edvanandel]

Well spotted. RJ bought it for his Africa-trip and used it a few weeks before he left.

[@timschwarze1739]

Ahh I knew it! He had that Cross Helmet for goggle fitting before, that's why I was wondering. Thanks for clearyfying it :)

[@timschwarze1739]

***** I can't dedicate all of my life to just watching KZbin and stalking people like RJ. They don't apreciate that and me neither. I just hadn't caught up on that yet, that's it :)

[@edvanandel]

+Cunning Stunt First I don't expect everybody to watch all of RJ's videos, so I assumed Tim didn't also. In the second place I think it's well spotted to recognise a helmet in the distance.

[@AntonioB_94]

RJ ! What are your thoughts on Yamaha XT660X ?

[@edvanandel]

For those of you without Facebook, here's a message from RJ, together with a colourful picture: "Heading into Botswana tomorrow. What an adventure, what a bike"

[@edvanandel]

To continue this 'service' to non-Facebook-users: RJ wrote there : "In Victoria Falls. Tour ended, mixed feelings".

[@edvanandel]

+Ed van Andel "In Johannesburg, flying back tomorrow night"

[@jktaxi]

Do you do the modding yourself rj? Can you recommend any places that mod these in SW London?

[@edvanandel]

I know RJ does all the 'modding' himself, although for some of the maintenance he goes to the dealer.

[@funnyfailer99]

Why don't they use a more powerful 15 HP honda engine? Would still be CBT L plate legal

[@tangina4494]

How much you bought this? I saw one at hotbodies? It's like 250usd i dont know if that is legit

[@pimvanmunster5606]

Alright.. I'm getting one!

[@aaronpalmer6136]

Hey RJ how long have you been living in London?

[@florinkogalnic5917]

Is it an automatic motorcycle?

[@daheldraed]

Hi dude, at first how often you top-up engine oil? I did to-up about 100ml oil for a month time, but I have Yuminashi 6-HOLES LIGHT-BORE INJECTOR, full Akrapovich T+carbon, K n N air filter mash. about a seat it's terrible! I'm looking a way to compensate discomfort, have couple ways/ideas, 1st - turn to lads who refurbish old seats, ask em change foam for better and thicker. 2nd - silicone/gel layer, DIY or with professional fitter. Not done yet with seat so far but this stock seat disaster! Thailand offers no reviews - no purchases, sellers at ebay in purposes give 0 info as therms ebay buy as seen. DIY silicone/gel at UK seen one place selling layers DEBBONAIR custom gel pads called, they have phone to call. I don't have time till Jan-Feb so I cannot move forward...

[@zane4964]

i got a yz85 feet legs but every thing goes numb alot of vibration

[@AssassinSandwichFin]

It's a 2-stroke what did you expect. And please don't engine break with that. And use fuel intended for 2-stroke engines.

[@VariousMotoVlog]

It makes so much fun!

[@harikenhahahahahahaaa5753]

Just subscribed 👌🏼 Hi RJ good day. Here from Singapore. Can you do a review on the Yamaha XSR900?

[@caturlifelive]

That bike is so cute, i like it. Oh ya, ride safe out there RoyaLJordanian

[@harry392salsbury7]

Gonna put a 183 kit on mine

[@middayhaunter4573]

Love the Grom.

[@TakePartBoulevard]

Hey RJ, I know you are away, but I hear awful things about the stock tyres. Which tyres do you use/recommend? - Sorry if this has already been answered in a previous video! Thanks!!

[@dannybloomfield2074]

the stock tyres are useless my bike went front under me twice with damp conditions Michelin do some really good tyres for this you can still get good speed in wet and feel safe

[@edvanandel]

RJ uses Metzeler FeelFree Wintec on the Grom.

[@TakePartBoulevard]

Brilliant! Thanks Guys!

[@n00bje]

They are ok when it's dry. When the road is wet however you better be REALLY gentle and avoid white paint like the plague.

[@TakePartBoulevard]

That's not so good for our great British weather... thanks for the advice!

[@miguelmendez2140]

nice video RJ . What is the model of the retros?

[@edvanandel]

On RJ's website you can find all the mods : reel.tv/#!honda-msx-125-2/

[@NPCANAL]

great bike

[@Nev36]

Do you think you'll chop it in for the new 2016 model?

[@edvanandel]

Nope. RJ tried it, but he said the sound was a deal breaker.

[@Nev36]

+Ed van Andel No I mean the new MSX. Obviously he can get that same exhaust for the new shape MSX

[@edvanandel]

+Nev36 Okay, wait for RJ to answer.

[@got1405]

Can 2 Person sit on it ?

[@chubbybrown4real]

I think these are only 4 speed. You you could change the sprocket though :-)

[@newfone97]

Hey RJ where did you get those mirrors?

[@royaljordanian]

See: reel.tv/#!honda-msx-125-2/

[@grandmastergooch]

The numbness is due to the vibrations of the single cylinder engine.

[@vdvelde9686]

can someone tell me what makes this so much fun to ride?

[@Wunel]

It does depend on what you enjoy about riding but basically: It feels very fast because it's small, and you spend a lot of time at high RPMs which makes the sound pretty nice and also it's a novelty - tiny bike, very convenient, plenty of speed in urban areas.

[@vialactea5549]

hey RJ, how is it with a passenger?

[@MrVaahtis]

don't even think about it if you and your friends are not thin as straws, even then the person behind you is not gonna want to sit there longer than 10 minutes. But if you squeeze one sitting on your lap backwards and one person behind you, you can ride short distances with 3 peeps

[@alexhere18]

It's crazy that this thing was even given pillion pegs. There's so little room left on the seat when the rider is on, wouldn't even want to imagine riding the Grom with a passenger. They'd be hanging over the back.

[@MrVaahtis]

alexhere18 suzuki pv forever, children still ride those things 5 up here, yet they are smaller or equal in size compared to grom

[@heinemick]

Has the old version of the grom ABS?

[@louisStyleeeeee97]

no

[@user-legong]

Rj what is your helmet name?

[@edvanandel]

RJ's website is a source of information. reel.tv/ Menu -> Gear -> Helmets

[@GO4RIDER_trikelife937]

As always Pro...... info/vid.

[@katsugi183]

Love the grom too ^^

[@conorwils2927]

Would it be a good first bike

[@edvanandel]

RJ said before: "There is no good or bad starter bike, the only thing that matters is the connection between your wrist and brain."

[@Wunel]

What Ed van Andel said is true. However, to answer your question, yes it would be a great first bike. It's cheap to buy, cheap to run, easy to move around by yourself, not too much power in case you make a mistake. Overall, great first bike choice. The only issue is that because it is so small, only a 125, you may want to buy a bigger bike fairly soon and so have to sell the Grom and buy another which is a little inconvenient and also means spending more money.

[@conorwils2927]

thank you