Pokémon Masters has been doing a big job of expanding on characters in the games that didn't get a lot of time to shine in the games. Most notably in this video is the case of Agatha and Oak. In Masters they explain in depth what happened to them: Agatha was a lonely girl who wanted to be left alone. Oak would always try to comfort her, so she would battle him to get him to leave her alone. However Oak was a very strong trainer and would always win. Eventually after battling enough, Agatha started to enjoy it, seeing him as her true rival and forming a bond with him. However Oak took an interest in research instead of battling, and one day stopped wanting to battle her altogether. Agatha felt like she'd been robbed of a core part of her Pokémon adventure, her beloved rival. So she kept battling, eventually becoming strong enough to battling amongst the E4, and he stuck to research. It's left open as to if she had any deeper romantic feelings, but it's clear they were close as kids and she resents him for not staying with her as her battle partner.
@iRazenrak4 жыл бұрын
There isn't much romance in Pokémon. Other than maybe Alder and Cynthia, are there any romantic relationships? One-sided or otherwise?
@Magnamaster4 жыл бұрын
@@iRazenrak wait whatvald alder and cynthia have a romace??
@tekunachikushi98474 жыл бұрын
Thats....pretty much her story in Pokemon Adventure manga.... Edit: Agatha was a friend of the Daycare couple, Professor Oak, Kurt and Pryce. One day, Pryce's two Lapras were killed in an accident, which made Pryce depressed and distance himself from others. His friends, including Agatha, composed a song to cheer him up. Agatha observed Professor Oak's battle at the Pokémon Championship, congratulating him on his victory afterwards. Oak walked over to her, as Agatha asked him why did he quit the research team. He revealed that the research team was merely conducting experiments to make the Pokémon do their bidding, prompting Agatha to release her Gastly and Gengar. In response, Oak released his Kangaskhan and Chansey, as the two begin to fight. Whilst Gengar and Kangaskhan grappled, Agatha asks what would he accomplish by himself, to which Oak revealed that his dream was to create a Pokémon Encyclopedia. Agatha refuted the idea, stating that he would not live to see the completion of such a project. Oak agreed, explaining to Agatha that it would be a job then for his descendants to complete. As Oak left her presence, Agatha called out to him. Later, Agatha won the right to fight against Oak in the Pokémon Championship, and after an 8-hour long battle, Professor Oak was declared the victor.
@ST-hr4xv4 жыл бұрын
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@ToonMageChannel4 жыл бұрын
@@iRazenrak Prof. Kukui and Prof. Burnet? Brock with a lot of girls? Is that not considered romantic relationships?
@DudeTheMighty4 жыл бұрын
The SS Anne is a cruise ship. The SS Aqua is a ferry. They are two very different kinds of ship. The fact that a port is being used by a ferry _does not imply_ that a cruise ship sank somewhere.
@grizzlymang19304 жыл бұрын
Thank you I was thinking the same thing the world is huge and what are the odds that 3 years later the ss anne would be in that port at the exact same time as you
@SeraphimDragon4 жыл бұрын
I was actually going to suggest that perhaps the SS Anne DID get stuck somewhere because in Red/Blue/Yellow in order to get Mew as part of an event, in game, the SS Anne would have to take you away to an Island to get him. I could be remembering things wrong, but I'm certain you had to take a boat to an island where Mew resided.
@michealyoutube49114 жыл бұрын
SeraphimDragon I think the first time we could get a mew in an in game location was Pokemon emerald also may be the only place besides the gen 1 glitch mew. Which I count me personally not for any good reason. Back to the point I was trying to make. In Pokemon emerald you could get an event item called the old sea map I think. It's a map that lets the captain of the boat could get to the island which has mew, and it's said to be the exact mew that was used to make the gen 1 mewtwo it's said in a faded sign basically. I release this Pokemon here and may the next person that steps on this island after me be a kind hearted Pokemon trainer. - Mr. Fugi
@GoyBenius_09014 жыл бұрын
@@SeraphimDragon That was Emerald, and it was a ferry that took you to the faraway island, not the S.S.Anne.
@wolfie70514 жыл бұрын
Team Aqua took the S.S. Anne. You know because they are pirates.
@canon37234 жыл бұрын
Regarding Mewtwo - the whole point is that the story ISN'T told to you, it's implied. Blaine's labcoat, the destroyed Mansion that was actually acting as the laboratory where Mewtwo was made, and the picture of Fuji and Blaine together; You're not supposed to be told what happened, you're supposed to put it together yourself. Mewtwo destroyed the lab and escaped, much like he did in the anime and Detective Pikachu. That's why the Mansion is abandoned. Fuji retired and went to atone by taking care of Pokémon at Lavender Town. Blaine continued in his passions of intellect and battling with the strongest Pokémon, by becoming a Gym Leader and Quizmaster.
@wikiuser924 жыл бұрын
Where did Hoops even come up with Blaine and Fuji possibly being brothers? If anything, it seems they were just close friends.
@tekunachikushi98474 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty much Blaine and Mewtwo's background story in Pokemon Adventures manga.....
@rocketeer91834 жыл бұрын
The thing is kanto has a lot of subplot that makes it interesting to speculate but the adventure in the kanto games is pretty bare, and its kind of a bummer kanto has veen in so many generations with the most remakes throughout the years and the only extra info we've gotten is that silver is giovanni's son and Archer was in the original team rocket. Mewtwo has enough material to have a stand alone story on its own to expand on the lore. Everything is there for us to put the puzzle pieces together (all the implied stuff) but we never got to see what scattered the puzzle pieces in the first place.
@cygnusprime67284 жыл бұрын
@@rocketeer9183 this is more or less what i was going to post. Kanto has so much lore they can explore if they really wanted to. Like what drove Giovanni to want to make team rocket, are clefary really from the moon, and of course mewtwo's origins.
@onepieceking17704 жыл бұрын
Yea I'd say the same events from the pokemon anime movie actually connects with the game but could have lil different details instead of mewtwo craving for battle like it did in the movie it went to cerulean cave to hide itself from others who would want to abuse its power and wait for a true challenger (aka u the player) to battle it and even tame it to be with u
@dillonklasse49804 жыл бұрын
I like the mewtwo ambiguity, when legendary Pokémon aren’t shoved in your face it feels like an achievement rather than a featured.
@Liquidcoat17 Жыл бұрын
100% It built great mystery and anticipation. The ambiguity makes Mewtwo just THAT much better.
@aidan45294 жыл бұрын
I think it would be so cool if the Radio Tower was haunted. Just saying.
@coffeeaddict44514 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@im10gi4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the floors above the reception are still full of graves
@enderwalkgang4 жыл бұрын
I would imagine, that like some stories of ghostly hauntings in real life I bet not all spirits enjoyed the move and stayed behind.
@SilverStrumer4 жыл бұрын
Its super odd honestly. Its like demolishing a cemetery to make a shopping mall. There's obviously going to be stories of haunting if it happened real life..
@NebbyTheProtogen4 жыл бұрын
pokemon wars: return of the marowak
@darkwarrior0073 жыл бұрын
I think the SS Anne vs SS Aqua thing can be explained away pretty easily: The SS Anne was a luxury liner that'd bring passengers to different ports of call before setting off for a new destination. The SS Aqua was a ferry built specifically for the purpose of traveling between Kanto and Johto.
@imean53992 жыл бұрын
Reported for hate speech
@ChickenJoe-tq6xd Жыл бұрын
@@imean5399 you should be reported for terrible bait, so obvious
@animetrash9110 Жыл бұрын
@@ChickenJoe-tq6xd It’s a misunderstanding. SS translates to ****** in a foreign language.
@sebastianfrost50354 жыл бұрын
I think the S.S.ANNE went to a new region that we haven’t been to yet and never returned because it did sink.
@gachaalex78074 жыл бұрын
How can S.S.Anne be in the Jotho Games
@colinbergmann57504 жыл бұрын
The S.S. Anne wrecked on some rocks in Hoenn
@AE689614 жыл бұрын
@@gachaalex7807 he goes from Kanto to jhoto then to hoen and then in the way back it sinks.
@TheSharkKing454 жыл бұрын
@@colinbergmann5750 that's the SS Cactus (RSE)/Sea Mauville (ORAS) not the SS Anne (RGBY). two completely different ships.
@DankDaHerbalist4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSharkKing45 facts
@lites734 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: in heartgold/soulsilver there's a picture in Kurt's house that show him,oak and as the picture says a serious looking woman....could be kurt was part of the reason Agatha hates oak
@Kyddious4 жыл бұрын
"What happened to the S.S. Ann?" Go check out the abandon ship in Hoenn lol
@kryptik69354 жыл бұрын
I never realized that tbh
@Kyddious4 жыл бұрын
@A guy made to trigger you sadly they only care about the marketing
@cookiegal73403 жыл бұрын
That's the S.S. Catus
@abumonke1183 жыл бұрын
Both gens happen at the same time :p
@Mr.Tw1sty3 жыл бұрын
It's the S.S cactus
@SupermarketSweep7774 жыл бұрын
Actually there is something regarding the S.S. Anne in Gen 3. In the Oceanic Museum in Slateport City you can find a model of the ship. It mentions that the ship tours the world.
@imean53992 жыл бұрын
Racist
@dodumichalcevski Жыл бұрын
@@imean5399 🤣 what ?
@WGames-Guides Жыл бұрын
Isnt there a crashed luxury liner ship that crashed in gen 3? and didnt the S.S Anne travel around the world? If so that could be the ship. I believe its called the abandoned ship
@SupermarketSweep777 Жыл бұрын
@@WGames-Guides Yes The Abandoned Ship is a location but it's not the S.S. Anne.
@Kepsin4 жыл бұрын
I just want to know why all pokemon seem to know the human meaning for their moves immediately after being caught
@Daniel_Coffman4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if that's just a game mechanic that is also played on without explanation in the anime, but I think that in real life, most trainers would really spend time with their Pokemon after catching them rather than just catching them and just leaving everything be until they need to battle. Though what I'm curious about, myself, is how trainers even know what moves their Pokemon can use or are in the process of learning in the first place. The PokeDex doesn't appear to have that information at all in the anime as far as I know, and otherwise there's no real explanation for it. I know personally, I likely wouldn't be able to remember the moves in their current repertoire without having them written down and the moveset updated. There is also how even the Pokemon "forget" some moves in order to learn others; though of course that is most definitely a mere game mechanic. Final Fantasy's style of having every single spell still be selectable would make much more sense in a realistic sense, but would be much more problematic in the games.
@Kepsin4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Coffman actually in the dp series Paul uses his pokedex to see what moves his starly has, but yeah it’s wierd
@AnDygerous4 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel_Coffman and not just in dp, in hoenn, May used it to check the moves that her pokemons had, that's how she knew that her Skitty had Assist, as far as I remember
@thekirbyguy45764 жыл бұрын
And in Best Wishes during the gym battle Vs Clay, when Ash's Boldore evolves he checked his Pokedex and saw that Boldore learned new moves upon evolving. It was able to use them instantly after just being commanded by Ash.
@rocketeer91834 жыл бұрын
That's just one of those things that doesn't make sense that still needs to be there. Like when a show about space has aliens from all across the universe speak english: a language from one group from one planet spoken by everyone lol.
@oddowl98784 жыл бұрын
I think the ss anne actually went to the alola region, after leaving the ship in let's go you encounter mina who says that she missed the ship and has to wait for the next one to get back to alola.
@pokris33854 жыл бұрын
Alola wasn’t even thought of yet...
@Spiredmg4 жыл бұрын
@@pokris3385 Even though it wasn't in existent yet, SS Anne was going to a far off plcaes. Which Alola was retconned to be that place. And it makes perfect sense, cruise ships do make stops at popular island locations for people to visit during their voyage.
@justsomeguywithfacialhair49874 жыл бұрын
I think it sunk like in the anime
@SquishyBunz69 Жыл бұрын
@@PhantomCitadelBut the SS Anne originated in Pokemon Red, Blue, Green and Yellow.
@SquishyBunz69 Жыл бұрын
@@PhantomCitadel Then why did you say Let’s go Games came out after SM games?
@egresstheoopa16264 жыл бұрын
The SS Anne went to Hoenn and crashed. That's what I like to believe since gen 3
@Mr.Tw1sty3 жыл бұрын
That's the ss cactus lol
@raynitaylor19123 жыл бұрын
The SS Anne is a world class luxury ship (like titanic). Also in Emerald there's a guy standing by a ship model in the museum. If you click on the model it says "SS Anne". If you click on the guy he'll tell you that it reminds him of the abandoned ship. So, it's hinted they might be the same.
@bosssnax85984 жыл бұрын
I want to know about the war Lt . Surge was talking about.
@Akkihana4 жыл бұрын
Maybe kalos war? In unova the heros who used zekrom and reshiram did divide the region so maybe that too
@josephlawrence95844 жыл бұрын
I think lance was a evil leader in a war or someshit
@oresti92714 жыл бұрын
@@Akkihana well lt surge it's the lighting American and unova its based of new york so he might was talking about the unova war
@dagothcharles20444 жыл бұрын
But wasnt the Unova war like ages ago? Because iirc Reshiram and Zekron had been sleeping in their stone forms for quite some time
@oresti92714 жыл бұрын
@@dagothcharles2044 you are actually right about that i didn't think of it
@agathascrustyfingers52144 жыл бұрын
Agatha kind of looks like professor oak in let's go.
@agathascrustyfingers52144 жыл бұрын
@@nbn2389 maybe she's just oak in a wig
@CosplayCore4 жыл бұрын
@@agathascrustyfingers5214 Oak: /realizes post-game, just before Elite 4, that sending two ten year olds alone into the world was probably not a great idea, dresses up as woman and challenges both of them at Elite 4 in order to make sure that they got strong Pokemon to protect themselves/ (Not a real theory, I'm just being silly.)
@kayleelemasters50894 жыл бұрын
I guess Professor Oak is into drag haha.
@bittersweetvictory85414 жыл бұрын
maybe it’s just because of the art style
@apexax3 жыл бұрын
In the Rocket Edition, Agatha is Oak's wife
@catriamflockentanz4 жыл бұрын
3:08 A "more definitive explanation" : The Pokémon Tower was cut for the same reason as many other places in Kanto were represented in a subpar way. GF was running out of memory space on the cartridges. 8:55 Minor complaint: "The MS Anne setting sail" It cannot do that. I have a suggestion: Make it a series, but don't do Johto next but Alola. You have started with Galar to iterate on Kanto, so flipflopping from end to beginning to "end" to "beginning" would be a nice change if pace.
@Mynameishassan04 жыл бұрын
SS anne
@blackman92914 жыл бұрын
No
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting Жыл бұрын
The funny thing about Gen 2 is that there are a bunch of unused maps still in the game data. Come to think of it we have the Space World demo too. Lots of stuff changed throughout development. To the point where the TCG had already made cards based around characters from the pre-release versions of the game story. Like imposter professor oak.
@Brianna-eo8nu Жыл бұрын
I always thought the Pokémon tower getting replaced by the radio tower was because gamefreak/Nintendo in the 2000s thought including the tower as a pokeomon cemetery might’ve been too dark and upsetting of a concept to bring back for their at the time new and shiny red and blue remakes, so they scraped it. But later back-peddled due to fan backlash.
@goldenxkarma1554 жыл бұрын
I think Agatha feels like that towards oak because Oak is a man of science and research Agatha is a ghost type elite 4 Maybe it resembles the on going debate of spirituality against science and fact.
@spencertherealist32904 жыл бұрын
Goldenxkarma Perez Why do you assume fact with science in relations to the possibility of a existence of god? I think no one knows. Including those self important scientist you speak of. There’s no evidence towards either side.
@lydiasingleton72313 жыл бұрын
This is a great point!
@RabblesTheBinx Жыл бұрын
@@spencertherealist3290 did you seriously say "there's no evidence on either side" when one of the "sides" you talk about is literally defined by evidence?
@antoniosantos96694 жыл бұрын
For some mysteries we have to go for sources in order to get the full story. On the manga Agatha explains why she has a grudge against oak. They were used to be friends, alongside with kurt and the day care couple from Goldenrod. Eventually both oak and agatha face each other on pokemon championship and oak won against her. But he turned the title down to pursue researching. She thought it was a miss use of his skills as a trainer
@cossakrose4 жыл бұрын
*The Pokemon Manga:* ...AM I A JOKE TO YOU!?
@bittersweetvictory85414 жыл бұрын
manga and game universe are consistently separated. same with the anime.
@steeleish4 жыл бұрын
good news! pokemon masters actually went into detail about agatha and oak's relationship in agatha's first scout story. i'll just copy-paste from bulbapedia but it should give you a good idea: 'In Pokemon Masters, during her Sync Pair Story "A Day with Agatha", Agatha explains how she and Oak met. Oak was always friendly and open when he was young and would talk to Agatha and try to help her. Though he was only trying to be nice, it still annoyed Agatha because she wanted to be left alone. Agatha would battle Oak to try and get him to go away, but he was always better than her, and so she would battle him again and again. Eventually, the time they spent together began to mean a lot to Agatha. As a result, when Oak got the idea to invent the Pokédex and subsequently stopped battling, Agatha felt betrayed.'
@agustmanihalldorsson7493 жыл бұрын
Maybe canon but not the game
@themoontribe83304 жыл бұрын
May I say the entire thing with Mewtwo is explained in the manga, granted it isn't a game explanation but it feels like it's the biggest we get, legit explains everything, from Blaine's part in the Mewtwo project (which I won't say here for spoilers, go read the Pokemon Adventures Manga, it's great) Over all though I love the video
@wikiuser924 жыл бұрын
Blaine was made a part of the Mewtwo project in the manga instead of Fuji because there wasn't much in-game proof at the time that Fuji was more heavily involved in the project than Blaine. Which actually kinda disappoints me. Fuji's role in the manga was almost non-existent.
@themoontribe83304 жыл бұрын
@@wikiuser92 oh I didn't really realize that, it's been a while since I read the first one so that may be why. Either way thank you!
@wikiuser924 жыл бұрын
@@themoontribe8330 No problem!
@razkaran24284 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the video creator is just a dense milenial who probably never played FireRed. It's even all written in those books on the table in the game. Please report this video creator for spam.
@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk92142 жыл бұрын
@@wikiuser92 yeah, Honestly mewtwo is one of the few things the anime did better than the Manga
@pkmntrainermark88814 жыл бұрын
Pokémon Tower was almost definitely removed for space, like a lot of Kanto. Shame, though, that HGSS didn't let you enter the lower chambers.
@nothingchannel64024 жыл бұрын
PKMN Trainer Mark ya I was upset when they didn’t let us go into the radio tower and silph co in HGSS. It made sense in the original gen 2 games because of storage limitations but it just seemed like laziness in the remakes
@pkmntrainermark88814 жыл бұрын
@@nothingchannel6402 I mean, I assume there's just nothing particularly interesting in those areas. The chambers could've had Ghost Pokémon, though.
@hchich25284 жыл бұрын
PKMN R/B/Y: you caught Mewtwo! Anime: Ash gets turned to stone... PKMN LGP/LGE: You meet a character from the manga! Manga: *RED NEARLY MUKING DIES BECAUSE OF METWO JESUS-*
@WayWardWonderer4 жыл бұрын
What about the abandoned power plant where Zapdos resides? Why is it abandoned? When was it abandoned? Did Zapdos have something to do with it? Is that why electric Pokemon reside there? Why is the power plant so isolated?
@EyeOfOculus4 жыл бұрын
Random Thing: Today Is Mewtwo’s Birthday
@Silent-N4 жыл бұрын
The S.S. Anne was said to be a world-touring cruise ship rather than just being a simple means of transportation, so it'd make sense that it doesn't appear again in Red & Blue after setting sail, as its annual tour would probably only bring it back to the region about once or twice a year, I suppose. Gold & Silver, on the other hand, needed a speedship designated to travel back-and-forth between Kanto and Johto regularly rather than a luxury cruise that stops by only once per season during a tour around the world, which is why the S.S. Aqua was used for those games instead of the S.S. Anne. They each serve two complete different purposes. That being said; Game Freak has indeed had plenty of opportunities by now to let the S.S. Anne show up again in another region during one of its world tours like it did in Kanto. I fully agree that it's long overdue for another cameo. I guess maybe they just want to avoid contradicting its fate in the anime and causing confusion among fans who don't comprehend that the games are an entirely separate canon? IDK
@entropy224 жыл бұрын
considering SS Anne sank in the anime, I doubt we will ever see it in any games.
@Mattatiah95 Жыл бұрын
@@entropy22 Anime has no influence on mainline games other than Yellow and Let's Go games.
@tkfarms7882 Жыл бұрын
@@Mattatiah95 Ahem... Ash-Greninja. Actually, Lugia was originally created for the anime rather than the games, so there's also that. And there's a picture of Ash and Pikachu in Totem Mimikyu's lair as well.
@ThatNinjaGuy4 жыл бұрын
Pokémon Crystal Clear actually has a whole side quest involving mew, mewtwo, and mr Fuji. It’s really, really good and I won’t go into it to avoid spoilers in case anyone here plans to play Crystal Clear some day
@bradlauk14194 жыл бұрын
Playing it now so thanks for the restraint. It's really good. Shame Nintendo 86d it's development
@Mr.Tw1sty3 жыл бұрын
Guess it makes the story *CRYSTAL CLEAR*
@GratefulforFreePress Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Tw1sty *Finger guns*
@chacont354 жыл бұрын
What would be awesome is if the radio tower has certain frequencies that the ghost would pick up and travel radio to radio 😨😯😲
@lonesailordee38864 жыл бұрын
The manga explains a lot of these theories. And a couple of interviews have explained that some of these theories are indeed cannon to the game. Blaine and Mr Fuji are not brothers but are more so partners.
@wikiuser924 жыл бұрын
The manga is its own continuity that is only based on the games and answers the mysteries presented in them in its own way.
@tekunachikushi98474 жыл бұрын
@@wikiuser92 but Satoshi Tajiri once stated that the Pocket Monsters Special series is closest to what he imagined the Pokémon world to be: "This is the comic that most resembles the world I was trying to convey." So yeah, the Pokemon Adventures manga is the most canon we could get for the backstory of the game.
@wikiuser924 жыл бұрын
@@tekunachikushi9847 True. But it's still an adaptation, and, like all adaptations, it alters some things, and is located in its own canon. It only *resembles* the games, but that doesn't mean it's the *same* as the games.
@kcaghanenu12034 жыл бұрын
wikiuser92 dude the manga literally goes by game canon in most ways, it literally was the first thing that told us that Silver is Giovanni’s son. It also pretty much says why Agatha resents oak.
@crazyape5154 жыл бұрын
@@tekunachikushi9847 that doesnt make it canon lol
@Karuminu24 жыл бұрын
Agatha in Let's Go kinda looks like Professor Oak disguising himself in an old lady dress and wig. Their faces are very identical.
@randalhighben5864 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same shit
@newphilmz36053 жыл бұрын
Maybe they're siblings
@Lil-Dragon4 жыл бұрын
I just want to know why it seems like nobody bar 2 or 3 houses in game are affected by team rocket yet johto managed to lose a whole town. Like were they lazy in kanto or something. Great video Hoops
@iRazenrak4 жыл бұрын
They were underground in Kanto, lead by Giovanni secretly. Whereas in Johto, they are loud and rambunctious, with no real leader.
@lavellewelch96944 жыл бұрын
I always figured Kanto was completely corrupt. Giovanni was a gym leader. They ran Celadon. Team rocket commissioned for a lot ok f pokemon related experiments (voltorb, electrode, Mewtwo)
@lankancheetah4 жыл бұрын
Saffron city was pretty much shut down by Team Rocket; all routes into it were shut down, and Silph Co was completely overrun.
@pellet11674 жыл бұрын
Team Rocket were actually kinda intimidating. They took over Celadon, Saffron, and kind of Lavender town. The leader was stationed in Viridion. Then they took over the town w the Slowpoke Well. They were stationed in Mahogany and took over Goldenrod. That's a lot of cities and towns
@pellet11674 жыл бұрын
@Red Rum Yeah, they were already defeated by Gold and Silver. But I like the idea that they didn't just vanish from existence after being defeated. It's very crazy if you count what they did as Rainbow Rocket though
@Diamond_Aura4 жыл бұрын
12:28 Second option: try to become part of GameFreak in order to help these things come to light and help create the ultimate Pokémon game
@lonelytac04 жыл бұрын
A mystery that I never saw someone talk about it was the question of who was the fourth Elite Four member, because when you fight the Elite Four Lance is the final Member and Your Rival the Champion, but Lance was the Champion that Your Rival fought, so if Lance was the Champion before who was the Member that left after Lance lost the Champion title to become a Member of the Elite Four, or did your rival fought just the "Elite Three" and then the Champion Lance?
@brawnymator10204 жыл бұрын
In pokemon origins. When red defeats the elite four lance says that you can become the master but someone is already the champion so in kanto you just need to defeat to elite four OR in pokemon red there was a code that pokemon oak us the master just like kukui
@wikiuser924 жыл бұрын
In the Let's Go games, it's explained that until now, the Trainer who defeated the Elite Four would be called a Champion, but from now on, the Champion would actually become a part of the League challenge.
@AJMTV4 жыл бұрын
When you wait for the SS Anne for a whole year and it doesn’t return 😭😭
@oresti92714 жыл бұрын
I actually wanted to try to do that once but I didn't 😂
@SwiftCreationStudio4 жыл бұрын
Knowing that gen 1 had no calender, no day/night and the only time function was based on play time so it had no way of knowing what a year was as a kid removed the hype for me
@AJMTV4 жыл бұрын
@@SwiftCreationStudio I've never thought of the game like that actually, but you are right though!
@AJMTV4 жыл бұрын
@@oresti9271 Haha good job you didn't attempt it XD
@SwiftCreationStudio4 жыл бұрын
@@AJMTV I probably didn't think about it exactly like that so young but thinking back now I know there's really only a hand full of ways to make that work, a calender solves it 100% but in gen 2 it would be possible if they had a way to track the number of times a day or week or any number of time based functions cycle through. Since berries were daily and gifts only happened in certain days you could write a small code that checked how many times for example Wednsday cycled through, if 52, then boat reappears. I'm not saying it should or anything but it's something simple that wouldn't be too hard
@burnum4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the only real mystery that is a real mystery is the beta stuff. "Mew gave birth" Now that is a mystery since almost every legendary can't do so in the games.
@gachaalex78074 жыл бұрын
It "gave birth" to Mewtw
@MrMonsterdaniel1234 жыл бұрын
This is not true. Legendaries can indeed "Give birth" aka lay eggs. It's been shown in the anime that's there's a baby Lugia and in Pokemon rangers and following games you can get a manaphy in an egg. So why wouldn't mew be able to breed? Since it's often refered to as the ancestor of all Pokemon
@MrMonsterdaniel1234 жыл бұрын
Also forgot to add. In red/blue it's stated that mew gave birth on 6feb. So there's that.
@burnum4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMonsterdaniel123 A) I did mention the games alone. B) I am aware that there are some that can, but not all of them. C) Why? Cause Mew is in the Undiscovered Egg Group, thus can never do so in the games.
@burnum4 жыл бұрын
@@gachaalex7807 Not really. Mewtwo was cloned using the DNA from Mew.
@carltonwykle645 Жыл бұрын
I kinda miss Pokémon prior to widespread and frequent usage of internet. I’ll never forget growing up in elementary school a classmate and his brother actually rented a book on braille from the local library to help us all figure out the mystery of the Regi trio. The sheer adventure in trying to translate it and unlock them in the game is something that a simple internet search can accomplish now but back then it was incredible to try and figure it out on our own. Times have changed.
@ElysetheEevee4 жыл бұрын
I think “as well” is his favorite two words. He even said it twice in one sentence near the end of the video. :p
@MerkhVision4 жыл бұрын
“If this video does well enough then I will definitely consider doing a Johto video as well as the rest of the regions as well” at 12:50 LMFAO
@shyguyry20334 жыл бұрын
I think what happened with the SS Anne, was that it made a long voyage to Hoenn, hence why you weren't able to go there. And the captain whose back you rub is none other than Drake, the Hoenn Elite Four member. Who had a dragon Pokemon that saved him once the ship was caught in a natural event, causing it to shipwreck in Hoenn. Making the SS Anne the Abandoned Ship in Hoenn.
@calebshepherd84354 жыл бұрын
WHOA! I'd never heard that thing about Looker being on the S.S. Anne, that's awesome
@quagsirefan89464 жыл бұрын
I feel the Radio Tower replaced Pokémon Tower because Lavender Town wanted to start fresh. They didn’t want to be known as the creepy LITERAL ghost town anymore, now that they’re free of the control of ghosts and stuff. The town has cheery music, the big tower holding ghosts was replaced with a neat thing people all around use, and things were just happier! But that’s just my theory on it.
@jakehuffman71024 жыл бұрын
4:00 MewTwo’s background was explained further in Pokémon: Origins
@andrewcornwell4943 Жыл бұрын
It was literally sacrilegious to remove all the Pokémon graves from the tower just to turn it into a radio tower. No wonder the Kanto radio is haunted. The more logical place to build the tower would’ve been Vermilion or Celadon. Hell, they were already “tamping” the ground to build something in Vermillion.
@MysticDojo4 жыл бұрын
the adventures manga (which is Satoshi's ideal vision of the pokemon world) expands on a lot of the loose ends the games leave open. It explains that Agatha and Oak were close battle rivals but when he switched to research that strained their relationship and went their separate ways. While Blaine is more involved in the creation of Mewtwo, even using his own dna to make mew's clone more humanoid. The pokemon origins series (more directly adapted from the games) also alludes to Mr.Fuji's involvement of Mewtwo. The thing I'm most puzzled by is what Leaf's role was in Let's Go
@Mattatiah95 Жыл бұрын
It's not "ideal" it's "the closest one to the one he wanted to convey". Since that interview Pokemon Origins was made too, which was supposed to be even closer than that.
@PlazmaticBrony4 жыл бұрын
The Pokemon Adventures manga actually sheds some light on the Mewtwo situation as well as Blaine's involvement.
@darthnoivern97824 жыл бұрын
I’m excited to go through all of the generations because I tend to forget what Pokémon just decided they weren’t going to answer anymore
@champgreen99854 жыл бұрын
Darth Noivern “tend to forget what Pokémon just decided they weren’t going to answer anymore?” What does this mean?
@darthnoivern97824 жыл бұрын
Like I forget a lot about stuff that the Pokémon company just decided not to answer for example the GS ball
@ADiretoria1004 жыл бұрын
> It seems that Agatha hates him because Oak stopped battling and started to research on Pokemon Masters: *Well yes, but actually yes*
@haydendivine84124 жыл бұрын
I wish more games were like Gen 2. Visiting multiple regions... Such an amazing concept
@kytholek Жыл бұрын
You should look into pokemmo. Can have most regions
@Jac735 Жыл бұрын
Facts one of my favorite games even though alot of people hate that gen but I liked that one the most
@gundamheavyarms48794 жыл бұрын
In Red/Blue, in the lab on Cinnabar Island, a man exclaims that the Riachu he was traded evolved. This was removed from Yellow and the remakes. Makes you wonder though, what was the third evolution that got scrapped?
@Dojima-San4 жыл бұрын
It was gorochu.
@rickycoles85274 жыл бұрын
Great video! Even though I knew these, I should imagine the later regions would have some awesome things to cover! Please do a series on it!
@monkeysk8er334 жыл бұрын
You know what WOULD be a great video series? The Story Differences Between The Anime and Games
@TsuriaDragon4 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely would enjoy seeing more of this series. I had an thought pop up I’m relooking over the PMD explorers of sky storyline and was wondering if Detective Pikachu could have a crossover to the mystery dungeon universe I think it might make a good movie if well done.
@anubis967894 жыл бұрын
We should get a professor oak game that takes place in the past where it shows how oak came to his dream as a professor. Like he was the best trainer but gave it up to complete the Pokédex lol.
@itstony50764 жыл бұрын
Oh my lord, this series really got me ;)) Rooting for more. Thanks
@Jasonwolf14954 жыл бұрын
Oh the Pokemon tower thing is easy. It's based on the actual events in Japan. It's a genuine ongoing event that happens there. As they try to develop areas sometimes even graveyards have to be dug up and moved. Ya gotta realize Kanto includes the largest urban areas in the world. While the game feels space to us it's supposed to be super dense and filled with buildings. Replacing the tower was the only option.
@silverhetch33834 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Mewtwo
@T00R5553 жыл бұрын
Wow
@northequator92974 жыл бұрын
SS ANNE Sunk in the anime, so that’s where it went dude lol I don’t know where else it would go. Also the Pokémon Graveyard tower was replaced because it wasn’t family kid friendly for Pokémon to have mortality since they are always fighting. Makes them seem less human or real kinda stuff.
@The.Incredible.Mister.E4 жыл бұрын
Iceberg right ahead!
@shiteyanyo11114 жыл бұрын
I really love this idea
@nairaweave88184 жыл бұрын
What in the hell are you?!?!
@fightinggriffen4 жыл бұрын
[Notices Pikachu is named Laxus] I see you're a man of culture -w-
@Pomali10294 жыл бұрын
Hey hops, have you ever read the manga? I believe there is way more insight on it than on movies or anime of pokemon and might be worthwhile for a video series
@chandlerrox26844 жыл бұрын
The manga is great
@galargirl81664 жыл бұрын
Gen 1 video features gen 6 vivillion
@galargirl81664 жыл бұрын
And I oop
@tylerbrooke984 жыл бұрын
If you read the manga, it literally answers these questions.
@Thorinox4 жыл бұрын
The reason why Agatha hates Pro. Oak is because he couldnt get her preggo...
@divid_4 жыл бұрын
The S.S. Anne is the cruise ship that is full of people with the coronavirus that no one is allowed off.
@phoenixzreaper24214 жыл бұрын
I always thought that mr.fugi stayed in lavender town because he was afraid of Mewtwo and since Mewtwo was a psychic type he thought ghost types were the best way to counter it. Also I kinda thought that Agatha got upset with professor Oak because he spent most of his time studying Pokemon instead of spending it with her
@RJLuigi4 жыл бұрын
I thought the S.S.Anne was the sunken ship in Hoenn (Gen 3). I'm pretty sure they connect it to the S.S.Anne from Kanto (Gen 1) in some way.
@CombatFan1344 жыл бұрын
Mewtwo story: I imagined that mewtwo was a part of the fossil restoration tech development. That scientists had created the tech to revive a mew and screwed up due to having a degraded source material but were able to improvise and ended up with mewtwo. It escaped and they recycled the tech to fossil pokemon.
@christianduncan38014 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see these videos for every region, including the regions for non-mainline games like the Ranger Series.
@Texasbroski5124 жыл бұрын
That idea about a mewtwo story would have been awesome seems almost to easy to get mewtwo for how badass of pokemon it is
@Scumborg4 жыл бұрын
the mysteries touched on here are tepid to say the least. we know how mewtwo was created. we know he destroyed the mansion while escaping. this video is just all speculation, which is non-content.
@LilianOrchard Жыл бұрын
Regarding Mewtwo and Pokemon Mansion, you're given all the information you need. You even laid out the entire story. All a story arc would do is definitely confirm what you already pieced together. Which kind of beats the point of the whole thing.
@unwithering53134 жыл бұрын
One thing I find mysterious is: Why didn't they take advantage of the Let's Go games to balance the types out or allow other gen Pokemon that are connected to the original ones Come to think of it; it'd be pretty cool if they added some 'new' Pokemon based around the unused ideas
@fernandobanda57344 жыл бұрын
Why unused ideas don't happen: -They were bad in the first place, then and now -They have been adapted into other ideas that have since come out It's novel for us, but not for them.
@anonymeows36092 жыл бұрын
mew2s creators in generations/movie:mr.fuji manga:Blaine anime b4 movie:bill
@brycevo4 жыл бұрын
This is a great new series. I can't wait to see more of these great mysteries
@yunurrahmat Жыл бұрын
i'm disappointed that you didn't mentioned about the concept of "death" at Pokemon Tower. some NPCs at that tower said that the tower were built to pay respect for death pokemon, yet no matter how much we, as the player, let our pokemons fainted, they will never die. that fact is very interesting for me and maybe will never answered anyway though.
@Pilachio Жыл бұрын
The most recent games have a bit of Story on that, as there is a character whose Pokémon got injured in battle and couldn't be helped by the Pokémon Center. There was also an episode in the Anime during the Alola time where a Stoutland died of old age.
@BirdieSenpai4 жыл бұрын
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MEWTWO!!
@harpieclan19504 жыл бұрын
The way you hold your words be having me dying 😂 like I give you a A+ for the dramatics
@thomasfleischman36234 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy finding out new stuff
@RocketJo86 Жыл бұрын
About Mewtwo: I don't think the props are plot devices. Mewtwo is an intentional mystery put in the game, just like secret fighters in Mortal Kombat. It made people talk about the game, trying to figure out what happened. A kind of advertising, if you will. And given that it still works (your video is prove) makes it so they probably never tell the whole story ^^
@Jac735 Жыл бұрын
Facts just like back than when I was in 5th grade in 99 at the time I heard rumors and stories about the game everyday on the school yard fun times I'll never forget those days
@JanJ054 жыл бұрын
YES PLEASE MORE!!!!!
@Artifacter4 жыл бұрын
The St.anne crashed into cycling road since in the official art it closes the vermillion harbor in completely making it impossible for ships to sail out
@snakefish184 жыл бұрын
You reference the anime quite a bit during your hypothesis, have you read the Pokemon Adventures manga, if haven't really need to read this manga series
@Venemofthe8884 жыл бұрын
So i think they replaced the ghost tower with the radio tower because having a building that has graves with multiple floors is a bad idea. Putting them into the ground is probably better and possibly could rest fully and being a bit more merciful and not have such a haunted area and getting the channelers to be gym trainers in the johto region with morty as the leader Now the kanto radio tower was probably made to draw some tourists and not to be a sad town but like kanto have something to show off. Cubones also went into a better home going to dark cave where it could have a better life and have a fresh start
@IthinkIneedAhug4 жыл бұрын
I think in Japan, they cremate their dead, so I'm not sure if being in the ground would do anything for them?
@Venemofthe8884 жыл бұрын
@@IthinkIneedAhug oh i didn't know that
@zackabdo46254 жыл бұрын
8:48 it's the sunken ship in generation 3
@GudJonnyCakes4 жыл бұрын
Fr huh I didn't think of that
@_Kiki_294 жыл бұрын
But the abandoned ship in gen 3 is called the SS Cactus.
@zackabdo46254 жыл бұрын
@@_Kiki_29 nowhere in-game does it mention that
@_Kiki_294 жыл бұрын
@@zackabdo4625 True but various sources like bulbapedia, serebii, etc. have said the name of the ship prior to it crashing was the SS Cactus. Isn't it also widely accepted that the events of gens 1 and 3 take place at the same time? The abandoned ship seems to have been there a while.
@thatonemcdonaldsemployee35064 жыл бұрын
I thought that was pretty obvious lol
@KMDRG4 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact about Mewtwo, in the Pokemon Adventures Manga it's explained that the DNA used to create Mewtwo was a combination of Mew's and Blaine's, meaning that Mewtwo, in the manga at least, is part human, and is Blaine's kid
@newsfromlakewobegon97114 жыл бұрын
That Omega artwork in this video's thumbnail was just $ commissioned by Dr. Lava a few days ago... and you've already snatched it up to use in your own video I see. You're always taking from that guy, why don't you make your own stuff instead of taking from other Poketubers without credit? Pretty lame tbh.
@troyschramii48284 жыл бұрын
FYI - Images on the internet are digital and using one in another location than the original doesn't take it away from the creator or person who paid for it. there is literally no loss in this instance there is no "take" wouldn't it be better if we could all just create and create without worry?
@bradlauk14194 жыл бұрын
Because someone else paid for it's use?
@newsfromlakewobegon97114 жыл бұрын
@@troyschramii4828 - That literally makes no sense. By that logic, I could just download all Hoops' videos and upload them to my own channel and monetize them. I could copy every article on the New York Times' website and put it on my own website and sell ads. Based on your reasoning, I wouldn't be "taking" anything from Hoops and NYT. If you can't see how that would be infringing on their intellectual property rights, you must have no idea how people make internet on the internet.
@kunik614 жыл бұрын
4:06 in official Kanto book, it is implied Mew is violent. Mew, not Mewtwo.
@HogW1ld3854 жыл бұрын
Only problem is that these “mysteries” have been talked about so much that your video is kinda boring.
@Xenunnaki4 жыл бұрын
My headcanon for the Pokemon Tower is that there may have been something wrong with the structure or where it was, in a way that basic repairs or renovations weren't an option. The graves would have been relocated to another site where this wouldn't be an issue, and the left over land would be freed up for the city to whatever with. The decision to build a Radio Tower likely came after then and played no role in the grave's relocation.
@dalxyon4 жыл бұрын
The radio tower replaced the Pokémon tower for a few reasons. Pokémon was meant to be a game for players of all ages. Having a tower full of dead Pokémon and ghosts doesn't sit well with parents who let their small child play these games. Not only that but it would make sense for the radio tower to be placed here. The radio tower is supposed to emit signals across the land. Having it closer to the Johto region might cause signals from from Johto to interfere with the radio transmissions from Kanto and vice-versa. The placement is even further justified by having the power plant so close on the map. A radio tower takes a good amount of electricity to power it and the power plant being close by would cut the costs of installation and construction.
@jpcsdutra4 жыл бұрын
1 - The short answer for that is cartridge space. They needed another radio tower, and they wouldn't be able to fit another dungeon into the game, specially since Gastly was vastly more accessible and they didn't really want Misdreavus out of Mt Silver. The real question is WHY it is the same in the remakes. They finally had enough power to fit as much as they wanted and they never did. I think a better mystery is what is the old man in Vermillion building? It has been 20+ years and 5 visits to Kanto by now and he is still not done. 2- People are quick to jump to conclusions that Mr Fuji and Dr Fuji are one and the same, and I don't think that is the case. Mewtwo was a Rocket experiment, and Team Rocket wouldn't have attacked Fuji in Lavander without making mention of it. I do think Blaine and Fuji are related, and that Blaine had a hand in it, possibly even the one who burned down the mansion that covered the lab. But the plot is easy to pick up from the envioremental clues: Giovanni produces Mewtwo but loses control. He then steals the Silph Scope and the Master Ball in order to capture strong Ghost types to help and take Mewtwo down and/or capture it. It is obvious that the people involved don't want to be part of this "monstrosity", and it isn't even smart to talk about the plan in anyway, it is not a thing that many know to exist. Even if Mewtwo is a Gen 1 staple, it seems that canonically they are not caught in either Gen 1 or 2, and rather escape to Kalos after droping the Berserker Gene. 3- Ready for a doozy? Even though Agatha is elderly, Oak is only 47 in gen 1 despite being a grandparent of an 11 year old. That means that at age 18 on a best case scenario, he became a parent. Since Blue makes no mention of Agatha being his grandmother, it is easy to put the pieces together: Agatha was interested in a boy much younger but promissing as a trainer, but not only he left her, and left training to pursue an academic career, he also got married and a child extremely early in his life. I don't think it's only love resentment, it's about how Oak threw away a promising life. 4- I don't think there's anything to it. Ports have more than one vessel. It just so happens that you use a different one in Gen 2.
@Akkihana4 жыл бұрын
About the mewtwo mystery there is also the question of what was he doing in kalos? And also was he also the reason the legendary birds were there too?
@Mapople1 Жыл бұрын
The reason the pokemon tower was neutered into a 1 floor thing & that things like viridian forest arent even their own zone is due to technical limitations around asset storage. They couldnt fully flesh out some things in kanto like they were in gen 1 because they straight up didnt have room on the cartridge. If g&s came out on GBA instead, likely we would have something different.
@115Gaming-g8n4 жыл бұрын
Thing bout the pokemon tower being replaced by radio tower is probably due to the music they put in gen 1 for lavender town cuz of the Pokemon tower which infamously caused mass breakdowns/nightmares illnesses etc. So by replacing the Pokemon tower by a radio tower, they get rid of the creepy reason they had that music in first place and have an excuse to change the music to something more cheery
@TheFuzzyCrack4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually making a D&D campaign with the 1st Gen Pokemon and it's an alternate universe where Blue turns evil and goes to team rocket after losing to Red. He eventually kills red and frames team rocket, killing Giovanni to claim fame. Goes to Johto and re-establishes team rocket as a front. Uses their radio tower to cause Pokemon to be feral instead of evolving. Uses the attacks as a political push to move Pokemon training and battling out of Kanto for good, mainly so he can never "lose" again. He doesn't get the drive he needs at first but in his campaigning he had Pokemon tower destroyed and a radio tower built as a "goodbye to the past, hello to the future" kinda standpoint. Uses the radio tower in Kanto the same way. People become fearful and therefore follow Blues lead. A resistance of trainers are ready to battle to the end. Thus the Final Pokemon War occurred. Trainers held their ground until the mysterious Psychic type Mewtwo appeared and leveled the Trainers army in minutes. What's left of the resistance flees to the mountains hoping to return Pokemon training to Kanto. 300 years pass, the characters enter Kanto... TL;DR Alternate timeline Blue kills Red and tears Pokemon tower down for a radio tower to destroy Pokemon.
@ClaireZhasa Жыл бұрын
There's a really simple answer for the SS Anne being replaced with the SS Aqua. 3 years have passed between RBY/GSC and Kanto had gone through a significant modernization; the magnet train, the radio tower taking the place of Pokemon Tower and other things like that. The SS Anne was simply outdated and replaced. alternatively it's just not in the port at the time or it's even possibly in town and just doesn't matter because you don't go to it. Something that gets forgotten a lot is that most of the cities in the games are implied to be much bigger than they look, otherwise Cerulean City, a major port town would have a population of like 30 people.
@dogefan123494 жыл бұрын
Me: Have I watched this video before? Also me:*Sees release time* Me again: 👌👌
@austinmccormick89524 жыл бұрын
Their relationship has a part like with Simon and Mesmera(the female vampire in the stakes mini series of adventure time)
@dr.ericomatsushita6290 Жыл бұрын
I loved this series!!! Looking forward a Johto version of them:)
@ThrE3-GeS4 жыл бұрын
The ss anne could be the old ship wreck in hoenn just like how the detective arrived there.
@cjhs20064 жыл бұрын
I Think The Main 2 Reasons Why People Like The Nostalgia Critic Don’t Like Pokémon is 1.Because They Don’t Know About All of The Amazing Secrets That All of The Pokémon Franchise Has to Hide,&,2.Because They Don’t Know How to Properly Get Into The Franchise,&,That is Actually Pretty Complicated(When it Comes to The Games,do:Play All of The Core Games,Play All of The Remakes,Play All of The Handheld Spin-Offs,Play All of The Home Console Spin-Offs,Don’t:Play Pokémon go(All it is,&,All It’ll Ever be is a Giant Fucking Cashgrab),When it Comes to The Anime,do:Watch Kanto-Sinnoh,Watch Kalos,Watch Alola,Watch The Spin-Off Animes,Don’t:Watch Unova Ever(It’s The Worst Way to do a Soft Reboot),When it Comes to The Cards,do:Collect Them All,When it Comes to The Books,do:Read The Companion Books to The Core Anime,Read The Manga(at Your Own Risk,I Wouldn’t Suggest Reading The Manga if You Get Really Intense Nightmares Super Easily Like I do),When it Comes to The Movies,do:Watch The Core Kanto-Sinnoh Movies,Watch The Core Kalos Movies,Watch The Core Alola Movies,Watch Detective Pikachu,Don’t:Watch The Core Unova Movies)