Can you do these videos again? Maybe with drivers newer than 2018? These videos are my favourite! Thank you.
@46barrj7 жыл бұрын
The Fly Z results are most interesting. If you look at Rick's review of the same Fly Z model driver back in 2015, he averaged over 300 yards and a longest hit of 321 yards. Spin rate was also in the order of 2400, not 3800 like this review. Different shafts is the only noticeable difference in the clubs. Maybe an off day Rick?
@ewenjones14587 жыл бұрын
I bought the F7 because of its forgiveness. I tried the F7 Plus and it was way, way longer, but I hit one in 5 on the fairway. This driver is not long, but for a 19 handicapper who struggles with posture, it was the perfect fit. It, along with the 3 wood, has helped me get down to 14. I feel confident every time I pull this driver out. If i nail it, it goes 240mtrs. If I put it from the extreme toe or heel it gives me 210mtrs and still on the fairway. I love this driver.
@slimjim-iq4ee7 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with my bio cell driver myself. To me, the ease of effort, combined with the feel of an amazing strike give me the distance I need to set up for my second shot. I don't need much power to get that ball exploding off the tee. When you do take the time to personally dial in your swing for a more consistent shot, I feel it pays off. Other golfers always comment on my tee shot as well, which tells me I'm not the only one seeing the performance come out in this driver. Cheers Rick, keep up the great work!
@yadthink7 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy these 5-yr tests, Rick! Thx for all the work that goes into making them! I'm amazed that so many viewers want to read more into them than is there and nitpick the results. Cheers!
@Carreidas3 жыл бұрын
@Rick Shiels Golf I can't express into words how much I appreciate a breakdown and comparison video like this. Even 4 years later, it helps immensely as I don't play the latest gear.
@codyhunt39287 жыл бұрын
Love the videos rick!!! Just curious because I looked back in the archives but when you tested the Fly Z back at the end of 2014 you averaged around 275 carry and 300 total distance with the club then. Why would it perform completely different this time around?
@serenityinsilence3 жыл бұрын
It comes down to how many balls it’s hit I’d imagine. The face wear and tear over time could make a big difference in performance.
@stoney.g04203 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing, because I just bought the Fly Z a few days ago and l've averaged around 275-280 but yesterday I managed to hit one like 320 with proper roll and decent conditions, maybe it was the shaft or something I don't know but what I know Is I wasn't hitting 250 lol
@mousepotatop97673 жыл бұрын
Rick also tested the Razr Fit Extreme over 300 yards and the Ping G25, too back then.
@danielcohen31595 жыл бұрын
Love the 5-year tests, Rick. No one else is doing this kind of thing! If they are, they're certainly not doing it as well. Cheers from Tennessee!
@Mav...7 жыл бұрын
Let us see a test amongst the best of all the brands now. I really like these review. Some have really surprised me.
@SkatingwithAaron3 жыл бұрын
Great review! I bought the bio cell new in 2014 and still have them. Looks like I bought the right ones. I can’t definitely tell they don’t hit as far as other brands though. Might look at upgrading in the near future.
@DonMock17 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos. I am not a Cobra Golf guy but this only illustrates that you need to get fit for your clubs more than anything. I am sure there are plenty of golfers that have had success with each of these drivers. I would like to see you fit yourself with all the current drivers to get your best numbers and go head to head with Taylormade, Callaway, Ping, Titleist, and Mizuno in this same format.
@brianmoreira13667 жыл бұрын
Results slightly skewed due to the shaft Project x was super high spinning for me. Switched out for the white tie shaft. Keep the vids coming.
@karncis7 жыл бұрын
i know Nike is done, but it would be good to know which model is the longest ever of the brand? then there are others but Nike would be great next please Rick.
@siddy79107 жыл бұрын
Can we please have a head to head of the winners from each 5 year test of the different manufacturers
@mattdonovan48607 жыл бұрын
I like this idea
@baylorba16 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@pastelprincess16457 жыл бұрын
Hi rick your original review of the cobra fly z you were hitting over 300yards with good spin rates and you were really impressed with the club so don’t see how you have now dropped to under 280yards and have it spinning to high Love the videos keep up the good work 👍👍👍
@Evan_Rodgers Жыл бұрын
I used the Bio Cell+ in the blue/white colorway for almost a full decade. Loved it! Still remains the most beautiful driver ever made.
@Piscifunalliym7 жыл бұрын
Please, do a test of the cobra low spin models...😁
@worldizmind7 жыл бұрын
Yes! He really needs to do a + version of Cobra drivers.
@123789timothy7 жыл бұрын
He would need to do a video for every companies "low spin" models if he did that. That means every TP, Tour and D2 driver
@ulrichbohmer92797 жыл бұрын
I used to play the Bio Cell driver as well until a couple of months ago. I got along really well with it, but because it got older I wanted a new shiny toy. I could not hit the Cobra F6 or F7 at all when I went to look for a new driver to replace my Bio Cell. I was all over the place and lost about 20 yards of distance as well. I endet up going for the M1 2017. It isn't really longer and I can't notice that it is much more forgiving, but I am definitely more accurate with the M1 2017 than I was with the Bio Cell. Thanks a lot for the awesome videos Rick!!
@claytonrainey75316 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite segment you do and I watch all of them. Could you do a low spin version? And could you also do an irons version? Maybe a consolidation of all the previous iron review vids? I love the channel, you and Mr Finch do a great job at covering different topics...differently, which makes both of your channels must watches.
@davidtrebell21847 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the true honesty on the club production. On that, I think you should stick R15. You seam to control it well. What set of clubs do you prefer personally. You should post a video review on them.
@jayweth7 жыл бұрын
Glad you did this review Rick. I have gamed Cobra clubs for their forgiveness for years. I currently have gamed my Bio Cell for 2 years and hasn’t failed me. Cheers from Florida USA
@thebigeasy86097 жыл бұрын
Really love this series of videos with the drivers. Thanks for your hard work in bringing such wide and varied videos!
@joejoethetireman7 жыл бұрын
To me this really shows the benifits of getting fit. I have always played Taylormade drivers and this year switched to the F7 with a custom Hzrdus shaft and I am crushing it. The weight forward in the F7 will add 20 yards. I have watched your F7 review and thats your best setting. Can you do a video with the Muzino drivers?
@Mizman767 жыл бұрын
1: you "forgot" the higher strike on the face these like. 2: you was hitting the fly z (that model,not the plus) over 300 and your longest(at the time) drive on simulator with it. Now it's almost shortest at 268?!?! Something very screwy going on here!
@LesPaulBJJ7 жыл бұрын
Massive swing changes. You didn't notice he was hitting slinging draws back then?
@robertbrown99124 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Fly-Z yardages look way off. Lots of weekend duffers would hit it that far. And crazy high spin at 3800.
@scottgrella69977 жыл бұрын
These 5 yr club reviews are some of my favorite you do. Thank you so much! You could expand it to irons as well. Maybe hit a 7iron from multiple years?
@MrShanghai347 жыл бұрын
Presently got the Cobra King F6+ Pro in my bag now. It's working for me and it'll stay in the bag til something else comes along.
@impoimpo36957 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, can you try to clarify something for me the carry on the fly z is 253 and therefore quite short, however on your fly z v ping g30 test the fly z was carrying 294. I only ask because I have a fly z Cheers mark.
@fairwayray7 жыл бұрын
I'm playing the Fly Z and I love it. Go back over your original test of the club.
@kimschroder93547 жыл бұрын
Please do this with Mizuno
@donharrold13757 жыл бұрын
Second that
@kimschroder93547 жыл бұрын
Don Harrold what do you mean?
@donharrold13757 жыл бұрын
Kim Schröder It means I support that, e.g. I second that...
@kimschroder93547 жыл бұрын
Don Harrold Ah ok...
@aaronmatthews9887 жыл бұрын
I get my new f7 out there at 300 but i have the weight fwd... makes a huge difference
@stephendibari77047 жыл бұрын
Great comparison test. I started off the year with the F7 driver and also found it spun way too much, very accurate but was giving up way too many yards in distance. Returned the F7 to PGA SUPERSTORE and traded it in for Callaway Epic subzero driver. Clearly Callaway is Better with superior distance and with the same accuracy as the F7.
@harryfiller28957 жыл бұрын
great little serisyou have made rick so original and so fasinating keep it up!!!
@dylanpatel13487 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of it was the shaft. Even though you may be fit with one shaft for a ping driver doesn’t mean that same shaft will work for a cobra driver. I do appreciate that you used the same shaft but I would have preferred if you would have been fit for the shaft
@brockkunz4 жыл бұрын
Dang it! Just bought the Fly-Z Plus! Hope it performs better than shown here.
@Johnny_p867 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if it’s your launch monitor you’re using now or what but if you go back and look at your review of the Cobra Fly Z you did I think 2 years ago those numbers are WAY different. Like you were carrying the ball almost 295 yards and on this review your average carry was 253 lol
@Antonyosb7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan P I suspect this is down to manufacturer tolerance. the club's they send to rick will have been tested to make sure it was a 'hot' one where as these random ones sent by golf bidder could be the opposite end of the tolerance. I bet if rick did this test with 5 of the same clubs you would see a wide range of results. I had a cobra driver once and was dead compared to the one I was fitted for
@kvgolfa7 жыл бұрын
Antony Osborn Lol you're an idiot. It's not how "hot" they are it's spin
@heahlgren7 жыл бұрын
In the review video the FLY Z spinned 2300
@Johnny_p867 жыл бұрын
Antony Osborn OK so if that’s true this whole review is irrelevant
@justinstephenson93607 жыл бұрын
I borrowed th Amp Cell from pro in the early summer whilst waiting for new Epic Rick's review is spot on I drove with it very straight but could not get distance out of it because it was spinning so high - it was barely longer than my 3w
@adrianrice354 Жыл бұрын
depending on the shaft . stock shaft even in stiff is very whippy . better stiff shaft and I was hitting it over 300 a few years back , still have one in my front room today if I ever get in a slump I pull it out to go out and hit some fairways . :)
@carlasumm7 жыл бұрын
thanks for that rick you have made up my mind im sticking with the bio cell plus im using now rather than swapping up to the new f7
@jasonprice98236 жыл бұрын
I love my Cobra driver, 3 wood and hybrids. So consistent for me.
@AB-ou4hl7 жыл бұрын
So far Im only impressed with the results Titleist drivers have produced........ They aren't flooding the market either with drivers... Less is more
@bigdisme56226 жыл бұрын
Agreed, they make a design and they stick with it. My buddy asked me about Callaway's and which were good and I just told him, dude, I don't know there are like 6 dozen diff version of their clubs over the last few years that I can't keep up anymore lol.
@dannythomas61727 жыл бұрын
You didn't have to wait too long for the F8 then Rick! Haha! I'm a Bio Cell man myself and love the sound and strike off it. Tried the F7 but didnt think it was as good. After you F8 review, i'm really looking forward to trying that. Got any spare??
@matthewmorin70167 жыл бұрын
Something is off with this test. If you go back and look at your review of the Fly Z your number were way better than this test. Something is messed up.
@rel1087 жыл бұрын
Agree
@OriginalDaVe7 жыл бұрын
His strike?
@allanpwilliams7 жыл бұрын
Although the strikes were around the same area the Fly Z was clearly the lowest average on the face and looked below the centre line... so higher spin and less distance
@kylejeffery897 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Just watched the reviews and he says he's "fallen in love" with the Fly-Z and was spanking it 300yds plus. Then rips on it here.
@-Thunder6 жыл бұрын
2nd hand clubs. Plus companies may test their review clubs to make sure they don't send out a lemon. Some manufacturers may have more quality control. Love my Bio Cell Pro still.
@richardgange35597 жыл бұрын
I’m gutted you’ve not hit the ZL encore driver I’m using that now and I love it compared to everything which is out there now
@keithingle21197 жыл бұрын
Definitely a surprising video, I would've loved to see how the LTD went, but then again, thats a low spin. Thankfully I have the F6 which seems to be the better option. Would love to see a midhandicap review of the new Cobra F-Max range, driver through irons. Keep up the good work.
@40Rouge7 жыл бұрын
I purchased my Fly Z driver because of your original review, where your stats were much better. It was among the best drivers you ever hit. Not sure what happened here. Had to have been the shaft.
@Band0sGodsword7 жыл бұрын
40Rouge Same lol, he was smashing balls into next week in his Fly-Z review. Sometimes I feel like he has short term memory loss...
@Mizman767 жыл бұрын
Same here. Fly z still in my bag. Love it. He hit it over 300 every shot while reviewing and now 268?!? From strike location,he forgot how it likes a higher strike also.
@mikehall68597 жыл бұрын
fly z user here still after ricks original review and have found nothing since to change it.
@DrDaleDobackMD7 жыл бұрын
Right. I don't understand that at all. My club head speed is less than his and I can get it to 270+. This makes me really wonder about his "honest" reviews.
@bradleycory98057 жыл бұрын
The fly z is one of the best driver of 2015 and the flyz + was even better then that and he loved it shirt term memory loss indeed. Also his f7 review were over 300yards how has he lost 15yards in a short time.
@vivianmoonbeam7 жыл бұрын
Yep, somethng is not right, the original Fly Z review was gushing about the quality of e driver. I think it is a crapshoot using used clubs for this test. I think comparing previous reviews using new equipment vs these past five years with used clubs would show big discrepancies with performance within the same model.
@ackers437 жыл бұрын
Just moved from cobra fly z driver to Callaway f16 for this exact reason..great video
@jaymishur11053 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for posting Rick!
@DanielSmith-ps1yz7 жыл бұрын
Cobra drivers are known to spin a lot for certain models. The best strikes for lower spin usually were higher face strikes on Cobras. So the saying to get fit is quite important on cobra clubs. I got fit last year and the LTD King was the best for me from any manufacturer out there. It is in my bag and most likely will be there for years. It brought my dispersion rate (long and short) as well as strike in various weather conditions to an acceptable level. That had always been an issue for me. Rick, I would like you to do the test on the lower spinning drivers which Cobra made. I believe that you would find a much better consistency on distance. Also use the rouge shaft in the test. Thanks for doing the test.
@raymond28147 жыл бұрын
Such a great video Rick. I love be the way you construct and put these videos together. Keep it up
@brianholle17547 жыл бұрын
Rick, although you can use the same shaft in the Cobra drivers with the my fly 8, the lie angle of the club head will be off. the my fly will be @ 9.5 degrees but the actual angle will be off for most of the clubs and they will be launching at the wrong angle. So the test is already off. And the BioCell was the best for me, until i got the king LTD.
@JRobbbbb4 жыл бұрын
I’m only just finding this video in 2020. I had a BioCell+ model in 2014/15 and it felt so good to hit, was very consistent and was the longest driver I had. I also previously had the Amp Cell in a Draw model and it was not a good driver. So far the only other drivers I’ve played that feel nearly as good as the BioCell+ have been TaylorMade. Have never felt confident with a Callaway and have yet to play a Ping or Titleist.
@JhanSolo3324 жыл бұрын
Still play my 2013 Silver amp cell pro, getting around 270 carry with it. Maybe time for a custom fit upgrade.
@johnnicholas58917 жыл бұрын
Definitely keep doing these. Very helpful
@AM-wt8qi2 жыл бұрын
Want to see reviews of current mdgolf range . Wedges look amazing but how would drivers / irons compare to premium brands ?
@jaychung83107 жыл бұрын
Although it’s discontinued. Would love to see a Nike. My first video I saw of you was the first covert review. Been a fan ever since.
@basedhumanofficial4 жыл бұрын
curious why the Fly-Z got such great reviews in your vid from 2015 and not now.
@jamesfrancis31307 жыл бұрын
Hi rick I use a mash up of this years cobra driver and the shafts from the bio cell 2014 bit of you weight the clubs each year the club head has got heavier but the bio cell shaft is amazing with this year’s head range much straighter for me at least
@brock03827 жыл бұрын
Once you go through all of the major brands, can you take the "best" one from each and test those head to head? It'd be cool to see a brand vs brand video.
@dannyatherton36556 жыл бұрын
Agree with Jonathan p - you got your longest drive (ever?) Rick at 312 yards and averaged 300 with the fly-z. The stock matrix shaft is probably better suited to that head than just testing with that shaft you used for all the 5 drivers.
@timstrandell72987 жыл бұрын
Would be awesome if you could do the last 5 Drivers Nike made before they closed down the club manufacturing
@achogg335 жыл бұрын
Good work Rick! Mizuno 5 year driver review next please :)
@coegj6 жыл бұрын
Rick, when you did the original test on the Cobra Fly Z driver you used the Xstiff shaft that came with the shaft and you just killed it, most of you test drivers strikes were all or close to the 300 yard mark and dispersion was very good. It was one of the best for distance and direction, now with this same driver head three years later and a different shaft is seems to be one of the worst for distance and dispersion. Just seems strange, I would think you would used an original VLCT shaft like the first test for this later test. Just wondering about this test with this other shaft, the head might be fine but the shaft mismatched.
@MissyLaMotte7 жыл бұрын
I am really surprised. I absolutely love my FlyZ driver. But then again, I don't put very much spin on my drives, so maybe that's why it works so well for me.
@haddenmiller43647 жыл бұрын
Yep. Might as well do Mizuno. Thanks.
@nickblair10467 жыл бұрын
I have the Ltd pro and its great! Do a test of the low spin models
@waynesmall11997 жыл бұрын
The bio cell plus driver colour scheme looked awesome especially the black and white version( tm 🤔) and was really low spin and still if not one of the longest drivers I have ever tested
@tadhgoconnor4346 жыл бұрын
I've 2 bio cells after using mizuno mp001 and mp 630, the bio cell is very forgiving and decent distance.
@bradmoore22636 жыл бұрын
Not surprised the bio cell was No1 since The Project X shaft used was the stock shaft. The stock for the fly z and Fx were Matrix and Fujikura.
@kendallward81907 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a review of the Taylormade L.I.F.T. 2 iron. It's relatively new but would love to see it reviewed by you rick.
@nmitch73able7 жыл бұрын
Had the bio cell+ with the red tie shaft, was awesome. Everything after that just felt a bit over gimmicky to me. Hopefully F8 will be better.
@cliffdiver19657 жыл бұрын
Could it be that the older clubs have metal fatigue and thus perform under par, or it can be the shaft producing higher spinning conditions than optimal. Keep up the tests and hopefully can do a each year winner of all the manufacturers, then an ultimate driver championship. How about a Ben Ross test in the future, they seem to have some lower spinnings models. Cheers!
@benjaminmanning47267 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, truly enjoy such comparative vlogs, however, why ProV1? Is the Callaway Chrome soft not as good a ball or is it just down to personal preference 👍🏽
@fedgoat20527 жыл бұрын
Why would you not test the plus and limited models? Hopefully there will be a part 2.
@niche11177 жыл бұрын
The Amp PRO cell w/ the kuro kage shaft, is the best driver I've ever hit. Long and dead straight every time.
@dougrea99937 жыл бұрын
Can you do the same test with the low spin models in your same shaft you have in your driver now? I feel that would give the truest results
@Indiapapa1007 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick!! Great video! Are you still planning on doing a review of the Arccos 360?
@-Thunder6 жыл бұрын
No wonder I can't kick my Bio Cell Pro out of the bag. It actually is a kick ass club. Maybe the F8+ will best it. Great test Rick!
@MrZoot_7 жыл бұрын
The fly-z+ is a game changer rick! Also please do a test with Nike drivers
@anthonybennett42745 жыл бұрын
i don't know if cobra's f9 was out when this test was produced but if yes shouldn't that be included to see what progress have been done same goes for callaway 2012 to 2017 ?
@mongohode4 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick - how would you compare your current SZ Xtreme to for instance the Cobra Bio Cell from 2014?
@dustin50076 жыл бұрын
When the bio cell was new I was between that and the Nike Covert 2.0 and ended up buying the Nike due to the fact I got a really good deal somehow. I now game the Cobra F7 and that has made me regret ever buying the Nike. Cobra drivers have been amazing in the last 10 years and I wish I wouldn't have wasted 4 years with a sub par driver.
@adriandutton20517 жыл бұрын
Strike is king! AMP Cell and FLY Z number have all the hallmarks of poor low struck shots being the ones that count. The average strikes may be fairly central, but I'd bet he wasn't hitting the sweet-spot on the Fly Z, even the average is low heel biased. It's that or there's something wrong with the specific club in the test.
@patpong58737 жыл бұрын
Rick how do u rate and where would you put the Cobra baffle xl driver in this Group Test Thanks in advance for reply
@lukewj7 жыл бұрын
Bought a Bio Cell two years ago based on Ricks review on this channel so good to see that my choice was the correct one!
@sebc84357 жыл бұрын
real shame about the number but it is what it is,i'd rather hit a 270 yrd fairway seeker than a 300 yrd in the thick stuff behind a tree hum dinger,the heads look very forgiving and gives u loads of confidence when addressing the ball. can not wait for the f8 to come out. looking forward to the next 5 yr test rick what ever it will be. maybe mizuno next
@pocketlabworks7 жыл бұрын
Something wrong here, because Rick's 2015 review of the Fly-Z, he hit 300 yards total distance. Maybe using the same shaft here give wrong results for some models.
@nzgraham50196 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick ... great review series!!! .. how about the last 5 years of Cleveland drivers. Cheers GF.
@GucaoGamers7 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick, love yo videos man!!! Keep on the awesome work !!
@Astronomyamazement13 жыл бұрын
hey i’m subbed to you. love ur short vids😉
@a.j.difabio17 жыл бұрын
You should do best drivers from 5year challenge and do a longest drive love the video
@bladerunner7373 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos! Could you do another run of 5 YEARS OF COBRA drivers again?
@nosaint017 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this one
@clubdetennisdolbeau-mistas59717 жыл бұрын
Great video AGAIN. Thanks rick.
@gregschwartz32217 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, would you mind doing a 5 year Mizuno driver test next? Would be interested to see as they're becoming more relevant in the segment.
@vo9003 Жыл бұрын
Time for new vids like this!😁👌
@augustusczar73753 жыл бұрын
The puff of smoke on impact with each driver 😂
@Pevans25116 жыл бұрын
Hey i really enjoy your channel and its contents. Question for you on this video though on similar subject videos you moved the weights around if allowed but yet on this video you did not may I ask why? Or did you not think it would change the results
@WesD853 жыл бұрын
Wonder how my 2007 Cobra in my bag would fair in comparison to new drivers!
@terrybates6967 жыл бұрын
Got fitted for the F7 after using the Nike Vapour and it has improved my game off the tee. Rick, I have to disagree with you coz even my off centre hits still travel along way. Cobra was never my 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice but that's why correct fitting is essential. #GetFittedCorrectly
@HarryFlowerGolf7 жыл бұрын
Fly Z - 3804 that's seriously high spin, interesting and strange results that
@mtrudeau877 жыл бұрын
I own the cobra F6 and love it
@alanpenman81914 жыл бұрын
Using one myself will be staying in my bag for a long time