50,000km in the GWM Cannon - Honest Review & Real-World Test!

[@destinationNZ]

I have travelled over 61000 Kms - Not a single issue. I bought brand new GWM Cannon 4x2 in early 2022 and still going strong. Best investment for a ute.

[@remix-yy1hs]

Did you ever needed to tow more than it's capability?

[@destinationNZ]

@@remix-yy1hs Nope, I never installed a tow bar Or gone off road. I love my beast and take extra care of it. 🙂 It is still in immaculate condition

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Awesome mate!! Enjoy! Cheers 🍻

[@grimm5678]

Investment might not be the right word, resale value is absolutely awful if you buy one new, i just got a 2022 with under 30,000km for $21,000, thats almost half price from what it costed new in 2022

[@hardikpatel1598]

How abt Musso ? Any idea ?

[@TheMeddy54]

Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts and issues, it's people like yourself that make You Tube such a valuable resource. I'm just about to trade my Pajero sport on a Cannon X, so your videos and experiences have been a big influence on my decision. Cheers.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

That's awesome mate! Thank you! You are gonna love your Cannon!!! Cheers

[@LoveEVandenvironment]

Subscribed. My friend also owns a GMW Cannon travelled just over 100,000km with zero issues. And it still has more than 3 years of warranty left, it tell you how confident GWM is. VERY reliable truck. Like more competition in Australia.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thanks for watching mate!! Yes the GWM brand has come a long way and is really making a name for itself. Big brands should be crapping themselves. Only way for them to dominate again is to match the Chinese pricing. Sooo many people are now choosing Chinese. Cheers mate :)

[@gulitzt5865]

so driven for 4 years at least... wow... gives me confidence on what i just bought then

[@paulmcdonald4508]

youve done more to promote gwm than anyone and prove they re worthy gwm au should recognise that.also you prove theres bias in motoring journalism in reviews.so thank you and goodluck to you and your lovely family,cheers mate

[@wheelsbytheocean]

That's so nice to say!! Thank you Appreciate it Cheers 🍻

[@ProjectLabz]

Love my GWM cannon, had it over 2 years, 3inch lift, 33's. Goes everywhere offroad, sand, mud ruts. No issues what so ever.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thats awesome!!! I love mine so much.. I serviced a GWM and a Hilux today. Both new. The GWM is way easier to work on haha I can't believe it. Cheers mate

[@ProjectLabz]

@@wheelsbytheocean hahha there you go, I reckon GWM will be heading for the top 3 brands in years to come, if they keep up the ammount of reliability and value, there no reason for them to be up there.

[@shirlprada2447]

I’ve had a cannon 4x2 I traded up. I now have a 2023 Cannon X 4x4 diesel . I’m a happy driver. Good on you planning to specialize as a cannon service mechanic. I have learned a lot from your videos.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thanks mate :) it's going good too. I've got soo many new customers haha The 4x4 is insane. I hope you're doing some offroading! God I love my GWM hahaha

[@leeriley66]

You know, all the fancy marketing in the world cannot ever replace your honest real world experience. I am sure the execs at GWM are over the moon with this content. I hope it makes its way to them.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@leeriley66 Thanks so much for your kind words 😀 Love to hear stuff like this 🙂 I've definitely sold some GWMs hahaha Was never really our plan but here we are haha Cheers 🍻

[@dustinjrrosales4330]

My father bought one here at Nicaragua in Central America and I wanted to see reviews about how it works after a long time using it, and im glad it works like brand new

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Nice! Love that the review was able to help give some clarity. Thanks for watching mate 😀 Cheers 🍻

[@nicolinovincenzo522]

Thanks for your honest opinions on the Cannon i picked mine up last week couldnt be happier safe travels guys

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@@nicolinovincenzo522 Awesome! You'll love it Thanks for watching Cheers 🍻

[@robvanduren761]

Mr Wheels By The Ocean. Today i test drove a GWM Cannon. Because of your YT channel which you put so much effort into. Thanks for educating the ordinary people on how they work.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thanks mate :) appreciate it. Cheers for watching Jordan 😀

[@tristans7153]

GWM should give you a commission 😊. I am going to get the X because of your review 🤭😊

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thanks for watching mate!! Yesss I'd love that GWM 😜 hahaha Happy that the reviews are helping Cheers 🍻

[@austraya4041]

Hahah mate awesome review as always. You were actually the bloke that made me bite the bullet and buy a wuhan warrior when I seen it get towed around Australia. So far I’m only on 2500km. When I heard that your car was going in for warranty issues and you seemed a little stressed, it started stressing me out ahah. I’m glad that it wasn’t anything too serious and that it all got covered under warranty. Anyways good job with the channel man, I really enjoy these videos. Also, this is a bit random here but heres little tip that I know with the cameras that not many people seem to know. When the cameras engage or if you turn them on you can actually manually switch to what camera you want to view on the right side instead of just seeing the front camera. You can do this by double tapping on the 360 degree camera. So if you want to see the left side camera, you double tap on the left side of the 360deg car camera and if you want to see the right side of your car, you double tap the right side of the 360degree car camera and the same goes for seeing the front and back cameras. You can only do this if the camera mode is in the 2D mode not 3D mode. Just a random tip that I thought you might find handy/cool.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thanks mate! Appreciate the tip 😀 Happy that my vids helped you make the decision to give the chinese ute a crack. We absolutely love you Cannon sooo much. Yeah the warranty stuff was actually really great. They got it all sorted. Didn't end up charging me for car. Happy as now :) Cheers mate

[@paulmifka89]

I am trying to decide on a Ute. Your you tube video mentioned heaps. You are a legend. My fight against buying Chinese is a struggle. But I sat in a vanta. Was really nice.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hahaha that was like me. I was trying to fight myself not to buy one. I was questioning my entire existence hahahaha But look at me now. Absolutely stoked I went with the Cannon. Such a great ute. I want another one! Cheers mate

[@nileshrichardjaduram9304]

GWM need to gift you one mate... cheers from Fiji.. ​@wheelsbytheocean

[@sidowen1885]

Great "review", justifies my decision to save 20 or 30 grand. Only got just past 1000 km on my L but it's hard trying to chalk up km's on a daily basis on a small island but no manual dpf burns yet. Also, I don't seem to have much turbo lag. I think I had more lag in my mr triton. Looking forward to your 100 k review

[@mitchellapps9865]

How have you gone with the DPF. Ive done around 6000km in mine in about 4 months and its only done a few auto burns no worries. I do more highway then town driving though so gets up to temp regularly.

[@ronoxford1087]

Great review .I have had great help from GWM. After the 55000km service car seems to have buggerall turbo lag . Best comfortable ute at great price for the x. When you see Byron ask him to improve after sales service ...to answer their phones.Ron

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Yeah I'm seeing him on Monday! I will let him know. He's a top bloke so would hate hearing that Cheers mate

[@passiveincomemadeasy]

Thanks for the videos, mate. I would never even have thought of buying a GWN until I see your your videos. I had heard of JWN but never even gave it a thought. We’re looking at buying a caravan. The caravan probably won’t be 3 t but it’s good to see you. Towing a 3 t. We won’t be putting a rooftop to anything. I see. You’ve actually taken all your gear back off again so you must’ve had some weight issues did you like the wheels? You’ve put on it? Looking forward to more updated videos as you go along. Thanks for everything you’re showing us.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey thanks for watching along mate! Appreciate the feedback! Yeah had some weight issues. Trying to get legal haha good times 😜

[@SVPearler]

Bit like our old Great Wall X240. Did nearly 300k when we sold it. Bugger all issues that i could not sort(ex mechanic) but nothing major. For most of its life it spent in the APY Lands, treated it badly. I did a few minor mods, lift kit and good shocks, snorkle(yep it would go swimming out there), zoorst. It actually handled better that my work 200 series, except for the power! It also never went back to a dealer, no warranty issues. Was part of a Great Wall forum, we found fixes before the dealers did, but the dealers did get a bum deal from the importer(ateco).

[@cyclemoto8744]

I'm at 6m18 and you're killing me. No issues, 50k km, etc...but ignore all the warning lights. I'm not having a dig, just funny and I'm still watching to find out more. Cheers

[@raymondsharrad9872]

Love your channel and it has answered many questions I have had. So much so that I pick up my new 2024 Cannon X tonight. Cant wait to do some trips in it with the caravan. Cheers

[@302esky]

My son just bought the xrs and the turbo lag was so bad it almost caused us to crash or near misses, so we put in a Hike It throttle controller on it and I went through all the settings and ended up with the AUTO mode and gees it woke the thing up like it supposed to be, instant throttle . Well recommended till they fix it with a software update.

[@remix-yy1hs]

Heey be proud of yourself. You did fix it. Was it fun playing with it? 😊😊

[@302esky]

@@remix-yy1hs Yes easy fix but It shouldn't have left the factory like that .. but all good

[@JonLucas-lk2gj]

Mate, seriously you have done more for GWM than their whole marketing,and deserve a sponsorship deal,still wouldn't touch one ,that interior looks so dated, far too much plastic chrome and old fashion dials, but hey I watch your videos all the way through as they are hugely enjoyable.

[@Sgten01]

Lol have u seen hilux interior. Now that’s dated, solid, but dated af.

[@orangejuicepony6881]

Passive aggression is still bullying FYI

[@outback7092]

@@orangejuicepony6881 What's wrong with a different view/perspective? Nothing about the comment comes near "passive agressive " or "bullying". Sheesh

[@JonLucas-lk2gj]

Hilarious mate.​@@orangejuicepony6881

[@JonLucas-lk2gj]

​@@orangejuicepony6881seriously.😂

[@andrewstewart1644]

I'm looking to get a Cannon Alpha Petrol/Hybrid that's coming in June, it's good to hear that GWM's are holding up well over time.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hell yeah they are!! The Cannon is amazing! I've driven the Cannon Alpha and it's bloody awesome! You'll love it!!

[@kirk2632]

I reached 50000km as well and I do tow 3t boat long distance. Unreal

[@henaretaurima87]

As usual love the review and your attitude confirmation on buying the ute Thanks

[@wheelsbytheocean]

💪 thanks so much for watching. Glad your enjoyed it. Love the feedback Cheers 🍻

[@macmckenzie7602]

Awesome video it was funny I was just watching some of your old videos then this video popped up can’t wait for our gwm and our caravan

[@wheelsbytheocean]

How good is that! Bloody coincidence! That's awesome what's the plan? When do you think you'll be getting a GWM? Cheers mate

[@macmckenzie7602]

@@wheelsbytheocean in the next month I’m a bit unsure if I want the x or L just not to keen on the digital dash

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@macmckenzie7602 that was my thing. I was like the less digital stuff the better haha. But the x dash has proven itself and haven't heard any complaints about it failing etc :)

[@macmckenzie7602]

@@wheelsbytheocean awesome man thank you I’ll let know what we end up with love your work guys

[@sxyvette100]

Loved the vid. We just bought a new Cannon XSR and pick it up soon. Hope it's as good as yours. Thanks for your vids

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thats awesome mate!!! Yours will be even better! You've got s Sunroof! Haha

[@matthewwaller3188]

I have a October 2020 built Cannon base model with 125,000+ kms on the clock... First registered Feb 2021 so ive driven it over 3 years now. It has been flogged etc ive not had major mechanical or minor issues. Ive used this car every single day since owning it. Been on and off-road many times. It spends nearly every second weekend on the beach and i still havent washed it and its not rusting away. However i did notice you mentioning what you do when your driving on the beach and you mentioned you only turn traction control off and sometimes run the difflock. I did see on your clips when your getting stuck your loosing drive because your centre diff isnt locked.... You should hold that traction controll buttong for 5 seconds. This will help you massivly on the beach as itll lock the centre diff ybat way if one of your wheels spin in the rear you will still have drive going through your front drive shaft. If you run the transfer unlocked you will only get drive shaft driven power to the diff if you have lost traction. The difflock on all the time can cometimes work against you if you have to turn as it can dig you in etc... but yea just a good tip

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@matthewwaller3188 thanks mate! Really well explained. I had Byron from Savage Tech just in my ear about this the other day too haha. Really appreciate you pointing that out and I'm looking forward to giving that a try for sure. Hopefully get back out on the beach real soon. Mate that's awesome! Love hearing about peoples good experiences with the GWM and good on you for giving them a crack early on. I love my Cannon and would definitely buy another when the time comes. Cheers mate 🍻

[@woof6367]

Great video as always! Keep up the good work

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thank mate :)

[@farminginaustralia628]

Awesome, mine has just done 70k been to hell and back and still going strong.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hell yeah 💪 💪 hahaha Cheers 🍻

[@beng9868]

Thanks bro, i bought a cannon L 2 weeks ago, saving up for the suspension and lift from savage next!

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hell yeah mate!!! My friend just got the Reverb kit and he loves it. Very comfy. Feels very similar comfort to my nitrogen kit Cheers and enjoy your Cannon!!

[@sulusieteru4223]

Excellent review. Stayed for the whole thing! I'm looking at getting one for work, and it's really helping me make an informed decision. You've pretty much answered all my questions and I'm looking forward to actually test driving one👍

[@Adz082]

I used to work gwm in 21 we couldn’t get enough cannons for supply here in Perth back then the were pre ordered. My brother just ordered the byd shark 6 yesterday it gets here in March I hope it’s good 👍

[@leighgreenwood3331]

Enjoyed the vid as always, i drive a ram and still enjoy listening to you talk about the gwm and other your other reviews. Good stuff 👍🏼🍻

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Ahh thanks mate! Appreciate that and cheers for watching along 🍻 I'd drive a Ram haha

[@Dem0nsSaintS]

At 91000kms atm never done a manual burn once and have always just ignored the auto burns, always have turned the ute off whilst its doing a auto burn.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Haha dammit! Well maybe my one was also starving for fuel a bit with the fuel pump issues. Could of been messing with something. Keen to see how it goes now. Good to see you got 91,000kms and going strong. Loving it!

[@kevincooney6045]

You all did a great job with your trip around stralia , definitely going to buy one for our trip around the big island, thanks for your input, might fit one of your bullbar too 👍 Good luck to you all in the future x

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thanks so much mate :) Appreciate the feedback. Yeah the Savage Tech Beast Bar is a nice looking unit. Really compliments the ute GWM Cannons love going around Australia!!! Haha Cheers

[@grahammoulds6365]

Hey mate just wondering if you had installed a heavy duty transmission cooler. Thanks I'm considering the cannon as a tow vehicle. Very informative

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@grahammoulds6365 gday :) No i haven't. The GWM already has a trans cooler and it's been all good. Only times I've had trans overheat is when i was trashing on super soft sand at 40psi haha my bad But while towing trans has been great. Cheers mate

[@amadoroable]

Good stuff 👍 enjoyed watching your review. I'm getting my Cannon X this coming Tuesday 🤗

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Awesome mate! Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy your Cannon!

[@CJQld]

Hey Jordan great vid Mines coming up to 25k service I’ll see where I’m at with work and might be able to book you in. I tow a fair bit and starting to slip/clunk. I haven’t done the transfer case oil yet because I haven’t been able to find anything but 20 ltr drums, GWM wanted $175 to change it. Been leaving it in eco. All good 👍

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Yeah thats cool mate. Yeah it only comes in 20L :( that's the downside aye. I have the oil to do oil change so I'd be happy to do the service. Transfer case oil change $105. Thanks mate

[@orangejuicepony6881]

Thanks for the transfer case oil tip, gonna get mine done at the 45k service it thuds in 1 and 2.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

It'll fix it :) If it goes away in Eco mode you know that's the issue. Cheers

[@leeriley66]

Capalaba. Ha! I lived in Sheldon as a kid. On the way to Mount Cotton. Been years since I was there.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@leeriley66 Nice! Redland Bay is like a city now haha the amount of housing going in. It's Got a woolies and all. Cheers 😀

[@leewilliams1515]

Great review, raw and straight up. Just a review should be. Quick question: Apart from the harder-to-open tailgate, did the Savagetech tub rubber seal stop the dust from getting in work well? We do a lot of off roading in our Vanta and the dust in the tub is a nightmare

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate. Yes it definitely helped alot. But the red dust made its way in still. From elsewhere. Bloody impossible hahaha Cheers mate

[@keithhowarth3376]

Great review mate, I'm leaning towards the cannon after watching.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Bloody awesome ute! Cheers mate 🍻

[@djg4193]

I had a couple if strange electronic issues. Towing a trailer it would not do the DPF burning, car went crazy, had to detach the trailer do the manual burning then went back to normal. Other was the phone connection, twice for some reasons did not recognised I answered the phone, kept ringing for an hour. Loving it though

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hahaha some weird issues indeed! Hope you've overcome them!

[@djg4193]

@@wheelsbytheocean yeah man, now I do a manual burning before a towing trip. Is there a towing mode? Or a way to de activate the proximity sensor on the back when towing?

[@peacewithyou503]

Getting one for sure. Good value for money.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@@peacewithyou503 nice!!! You'll love it 😀 Cheers 🍻

[@daveclarke5512]

Great Video and very your very knowledgeable on the GMW appreciate your Honesty and suggested tips thankyou Just Subscribed

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Awesome!! Thanks for watching mate!!! Cheers 🍻

[@davidmackenzie5971]

The "Rino" rubber fitting deck liner is also good because it does not sweat between the liner and deck, so it reduces the chance of rust 🤠😎💯❗🤔

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Cheers mate 🍻

[@hamishholmes3213]

Cheers man …yea I’ve also noticed the radar cruise not working since we put bigger tires on our’s last week …will find out at service next week if it can be re-calibrated …re: clunking gearbox …do you occasionally get random ‘clunks’ in 4L mode (with rear diff lock off)??…that’s the only time we get gearbox clunks …if that’s normal, then I won’t bother asking them about it at next service

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Ummm yeah I guess it would be a bit more server in low range but shouldn't really get any clunks. There is crap loads of torque going through everything when in 4L so could be normal.... I really haven't used 4L enough to really say or notice. Well I haven't noticed anything abnormal.. Not much help with that one sorry Yes please let me know about calibration. I'm also going to do some testing with my new scan tool too Cheers

[@hamishholmes3213]

Hi mate …I just called my local GWM dealer’s service department re: recalibrating the radar CC after fitting bigger tires & they couldn’t me a straight ‘yes/no’ answer over the phone, so I’m not holding my breath, that they can but my fingers are crossed 🤞🏼 cause I’m starting to miss not being able to ‘stealth sit’ at a comfortable distance behind the coppers haha

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@hamishholmes3213 yeah I really loved the adaptive cruise. I thought it was an awesome feature! Maybe I should play around with my scanner and see if I can find any options hey. Let me know how you go with the dealer. I was scared they'd charge me an arm and a leg haha

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@@hamishholmes3213 I just spoke to a head tech at GWM. He's told me nothing can be done. Something to do with the wheel speed reading being out of wack because of bigger tyres. Lame.....

[@jakewarren9465]

@@wheelsbytheocean My Radar cruise still works?, and I have never done a manual dpf burn in 51000 Kms.

[@Rich-ms6te]

Thanks for the review mate . I am just concerned there are little issues you have mentioned at only 50k. the soot collector being one of them. I have a 2016 Isuzu DMax with now 230k on the clock with 0 issues in its life but mine is only a 2-wheel drive Space Cab and only done highway miles and no towing . But yes the price of yours is good.

[@orangejuicepony6881]

DPF is a pain, since I swapped with my wife, its needing manual burns 2-3 weeks. Purely from poor software programming waiting too long to start, and too sensitive to interruptions. We just do a manual burn when we know we can't be stranded now. Its just a placeholder until we can order a new 250 GXL now, sold our 150 in 2022 at peak resale and still have the coin.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Oooo new Prado. Didn't even know about it. Looks pretty dam cool! Yeah it would be good if dpf burn could come on faster instead of waiting until been driving for 30mins haha Cheers mate

[@t.h.o.r.]

can you tell me how you perform a manual burn please? Ive just bought a 45km Steed that has not left the urban area in its life.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@@t.h.o.r. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqukpo1jlKt-i68si=GBPo2UHIqJAebScK

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@t.h.o.r. here is link to my vid of how to do manual burn on a cannon. Not sure if Steed is the same... kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqukpo1jlKt-i68si=GBPo2UHIqJAebScK

[@t.h.o.r.]

@@wheelsbytheocean just finished watching this vid- you are snappy fast! just subbed your channel and off to watch the burn vid.

[@reddreddz]

Great review mate! Much rather hear it from an owner than a professional car reviewer. I’ll never bash mine around as much as you have and so it’s great to see she can take what you’ve thrown at her. Keep the vids coming. Out of curiosity, do you change the oil filter more then the set servicing?

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate! Yeah thanks mate. Great to hear that!! Nah I only do as per service schedule. Nothing more Especially now it's a bloody town car hahaha need to get back out there! Cheers 🍻

[@MRCtouring]

Absolutely love them and I haven’t bought one yet, I’m praying that they put the larger diesel in the Cannon from the Alpha though.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Oh yeah I wonder if they would do that. The Alpha is pretty amazing but the power felt very similar in the 2.4L Alpha i drove as my Cannon. Hmmmm. I'd love to have an Alpha! Haha

[@DFiggo]

Hey mate, love the honesty in your reviews! I'm 5000kms deep into my 2023 X and just love driving it. Bought it because I was on a budget but found it the best bang for buck at the time. I'm thinking of getting a camper trailer to supplement the lifestyle options I made when deciding to buy the Cannon. I want to do more beach fishing and want that camping option that comes with a camper trailer. Light weight compared to a caravan and also more in line with my budget constraints. Do you have any thoughts on what I should be looking at, especially when it comes to tow weight given I really would like to pull any camper trailer on the beach with me. Love your work bro, keep it up with the content ❤

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Mate! Cheers for watching. Sorry for slow response. Been on a trip myself. Ummm one of out mates has a Jayco Swan and he loves that. It's offroad model so goes anywhere. Eash to setup. Will go anywhere really haha. If I was looking for something budget this would be the way I'd go 😀 Cheers mate!

[@StashmoCharlie]

Thanks a bunch for the review. I've had my base model since April and I'm loving it, but this video gave me a bit more confidence to get it out there and not baby it so much. Where can we find your deets to reach out for any mechanical work, or even just advice dealing with Barton's Capalaba (That's where I got mine!).

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@StashmoCharlie hey mate! That's awesome! Love that. We certainly haven't babied ours haha at all Raybecks Mobile Mechanic I'm on Facebook And phone is 0408582038 Cheers

[@adamkelly6264]

best car review on youtube mate. I just wish you told us how much the caravan weighs, hahahha

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Haha thanks mate 😀 Love to hear that Van: Tare is 2400 ATM is 3200 We were a fair bit overweight. Now we are running legal... just. Thanks for watching mate :)

[@danielwaistell4367]

Hey guys love the videos and all your content awesome as always, I have Cannon L 2022 its about to click over 90ks runs like dream ,I have Noticed you don't have your light bar roof rack and rear rack and roof top tent no longer on ya ute is there something else your putting on there.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate! How good is that! 90k! Yeah we are so happy that it still drives like brand new with 50k kms on it. I took heaps of stuff off to try and get our caravan weights legal. I chat all about that towards the end of the vid :) Cheers mate

[@MarceloMaciel-ol7sz]

Hey Jordan for yr lid in the tray maybe u should try JB weld to cover the holes. Thanks for all the content mate cheers

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Yeah gotta do something neater haha it's shocking aye! Thanks mate, cheers for watching along

[@lukesplace2538]

Good vid mate, I have a very similar fuel issue with Cannon, just done 24k the service department at GWM Hillcrest says they can't check and analyse the fuel pump or fuel pressure because I have a throttle controller (Savage) installed. I get the humming noise from the fuel pump, and when it comes down to about 20 litres in the tank, the fuel delivery issues to the engine is starting to get sketchy. Overall, the car is great, but the service offered is not.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@lukesplace2538 hey mate, yeah I agree. The service departments aren't giving the best 'service' at some dealers. It took 3 goes to get the fuel pump replaced. I have found that all GWM Cannon fuel pumps whine and I think it's pretty normal. Even though my new one is now very quite. But all the Cannons I service I hear the fuel pump noise so wouldn't be too concerned about that. But your starting issue. If it's slow to start and just keep cranking when it's low on fuel it's a fuel pump issue. Seems to be a common thing on these. I have heard from a few people now. Thanks mate, I really hope yours gets sorted. Just take lots of vids etc. Remove the throttle controller when taking the car in for warranty stuff. Any manufacturer will look for aftermarket stuff like that and try to get out of warranty. A throttle controller doesn't do anything except for speed up your pedal to throttle response time so that's a stupid thing to say.... but yeah. 🤞

[@lukesplace2538]

Thanks for the reply. Yes, disconnecting the throttle controller is what needs to be done. With Christmas coming closer, it has to wait... for now, it's ok for as long as I have more than 20 litres in the tank. Cheers Luke

[@DCA001TUBE]

Excellent review, no BS, Thanks. Can you tell me if your roof platform was rusting when you took it off? (The one I have is shocking, it's not a GWM product though). Really glad I found your channel cause you talked me into getting one and I love it, (35K km now) they are so nice to drive and fuel economy is great, much better than my Triton. Thanks again keep up the great work👍

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Mate that's awesome! So happy I was able to help! My original one got a tiny bit of rust. Then Savage tech replaced it under warranty, no questions. They said the new batch are using a different material and are better powder coated so no rust. Heaps better. Where did you get yours from?? Cheers

[@DCA001TUBE]

@@wheelsbytheocean It was on the car when I bought it, it's from Savage, so I contacted them and they replaced it, no questions asked, great company to deal with, Thanks. I also got to check out their Tank 300 while I was there, what a Beast of a truck, and their Tank 500 what a Limo.

[@zaq405]

Great 50K review and I'm genuinely surprised it performs so well.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Blows me away haha

[@alanhughes1262]

They have a 2.4 what their using in their new truck , if they put a 3.2 lt engine in them with self adjusting tappets with more kw power like 150 kw it would sell like crazy .i can see them taking the market in the next 5 years lots of nice stuff well planed out .might even sell my 2019 nx Pajero and buy on in the next year or two.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

You're right there but they don't feel underpowered somehow with their little 2L haha it's insane how good it goes. I would love an Alpha, they are so nice. Cheers mate Thanks for watching

[@alanhughes1262]

@@wheelsbytheocean yes mate i will wait for 12 months and pick up an alpha when it losers a little value their 58 i think they will be around 45 with 10,000 on the clock i can get 30 for my na Pajero 2019 , dealers are asking around 42000 at this time its like new only 15 change over, worth a shot .i would keep mine but i tow a Jayco outback 17 f 8 van pop top 2450 kg fully loaded ,the Pajero has not got those rails and has a limited tow ball weight .does it fine but that fancy truck looks good, I go gold prospecting need a tub to put a small quad and digging gear in the back detector etc.. Fully retired detecting full time along with amateur radio . you got a great channel mate one of the best I have looked at.

[@mrhammerentertainmen]

Great summary mate. Love my Cannon too but I'm finding night driving fatiguing because I can't dim the instrument/ info screen enough. The minimum setting is still too bright. Any ideas on a work around other than covering with a cloth?

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@@mrhammerentertainmen yeah I hear you. I think the radio is a bit too bright too

[@rylancarmichael8030]

Thanks heaps for that review mate keep up the good work 👌

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Cheers mate! Appreciate it 🍻

[@rylancarmichael8030]

@@wheelsbytheocean I ended up ordering a cannon today mate thanks heaps for your real life experience

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@rylancarmichael8030 bloody awesome!!! Well done. You'll love it!

[@rylancarmichael8030]

@@wheelsbytheocean hopefully it’s as good as yours has been !

[@nelsonwu4712]

Hi love to watch your honest review on the gwm cannon. I would like to know how you can stop the beeping sound from towing a trailer when you stop at the traffic light or alike . Even I turn all the sensors off or something I missed tks

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate. Thanks for watching :) It sounds like you have a regular trailer plug wired to the car. If you have the trailer plug with the Reed Switch and ECU it will turn off all the sensors as it knows when you hook a trailer up. They around around $400 plus fitting. The cheap tow bar kits come with standard wiring unfortunately Cheers mate!

[@chrismorris9391]

Great review. My 2022 CannonX just clocked over 35k kms and hasn’t missed a beat. Got a problem with power? Go get a SWDiesel fuel control module (or whatever it’s called!) and your problems will be solved. I have no relationship with the company, I just know the modules work. I’ve had two in two different diesel vehicles and wouldn’t be without one now. Not cheap, but made in Germany says it all. Tell Steve Chris Morris sent you. I do have one question though: How did you get the Apple CarPlay display to have the little icons (and the clock and phone charge state) on the right hand side of the main display? Is it in the settings on the iPhone or the car settings? It’s got me beat! 😢 The German ZF transmissions are adaptive, that’s why you feel it change so well - it’s got your driving style worked out! Doing donuts probably didn’t help though 🤣🤣 I run Continental off-road tyres and feel the transfer box Torque-On-Demand clutch working its arse off when I go a little hard because the tyres are so grippy. I’ll be getting the oil changed at the service next week and see if it makes a difference. I’m not sure if you know but when the oil is changed the clutch pack needs recalibrating due to the change in oil viscosity. All done with a good Diag Tool. I use AUTEL. All the best and Stay safe out there 😊

[@Iambatman1939]

Great review mate! 🙂👍🏼

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thanks brother!!! Cheers 🍻

[@stephenmcgowan354]

It's definitely one of the best utes out there if factoring capabilities vs cost. I love my X, sold my disco 3 4,/ltr V6 and brought my X and an investment property with rh change Same as you mate been everywhere with 7 year warranty peace of mind

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Nice mate!!! Cheers for sticking round. The warranty is amazing and now that I've got all that stuff fixed the warranty feels even better now. Bit of mucking around to get it all sorted but here we are all fixed. Happy days Cheers mate

[@rameshnaidunooknaidu6075]

💯…decision made for me … I am going to get one by end of this month

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hell yeah!!! 💪 💪 You'll love it! Cheers 🍻

[@wayno845]

Hey bud thanks very much for all your videos. Been watching your trek around Aust and the trip overseas....fantastic!!! One question I have. Does your GWM feel like it surges when cruising at 100km/hr? Mine does this quite often with or without cruise control on. It feels like the engine is trying to maintain speed almost at cruising speed. Weird for a new car.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate! Legend! Thanks for watching along. Yeah it seems to be a characteristic of the car. I'm not sure why it does that. It's almost like it wants to downshift or something. It's very strange. But yes mine does it every now and then

[@richwhetton]

I know stuff has been repaired on warranty - but if I had as many things needing doing on warranty as you have done I’d probably avoid the brand going forward. The warranty is meant to be an assurance that we know this is good enough to back it - not we will just keep fixing everything.

[@live2win]

Good overview mate, cheers

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thanks mate :) Cheers 🍻

[@leontomlinson97]

I've just done 25k on mine (had it for almost 1 year). One thing I've noticed is that I can't change the audio volume when the camera is on, can be a bit annoying when the music is blasting when trying to park

[@lorrencekunst5463]

Hi, yes just press/toggle the camera /P sensor button, then adjust the audio volume, do this in drive or neutral but NOT after you have all ready selected reverse, as reverse overrides the button function. Hope this helps. Cheers

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Yeah its annoying hey. It should really be able to do that! Cheers

[@VincentBade]

Great video. Thanks for the burnout advice :D

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hahaha cheers

[@user-fi5iq5ws5i]

are you planning any more mods for the ute, I'm thinking of putting a dual battery systems in there, would be good to see if you reckon if it's better to carry a jump starter around. I already have a lithium battery in the back for the fridge and lights and etc.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

I think the Ute's is all modded out for now. My mate has a duel battery in his for his fridge in ute... I carry a kings battery jump starter for when I forget to switch caravan fridge to gas when we go shopping hahaha

[@craigjay769]

Yet another great video.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@@craigjay769 legend!!! Cheers for watching mate

[@craigjay769]

Still waiting for you take on the China motor show expo.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@craigjay769 I know mate :) got 3 more eps in front of that then china China china!!! Haha 😀 Savage techs eps are so informative hahaha mine is sooo loose 😜 This blokes got no idea hahaha Cheers 🍻

[@VaskoGeorgievski]

Pls can you give review on Cannon XSR you are doing great job

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Ummm possibly. I'd have to get my hands on one. I'll need to ask around. Also the Cannon Alpha is about to be here too :) Cheers mate Thanks for watching

[@bradleymartin8979]

Hi, did you manage to sort out the adaptive cruise control with the bigger tyres? I'm looking to get the same size tyres but don't want to lose that feature. Thanks for the awesome videos 👍.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@bradleymartin8979 unfortunately not. Apparently it's not possible. We'll surely there's a way. I was told that the signals from the wheel speed sensors is what causes the issue. I guess there would be a possible way. But I really don't know how to fix. I miss adaptive cruise

[@bradleymartin8979]

@@wheelsbytheocean Thanks for the update. Guess I'll stay with the same size for the next set.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@bradleymartin8979 yeah if you want to keep it working it's a good idea. Such an amazing handy feature hey. Spewing I can't fix that

[@WarrenMcleod]

Great detail, Thank you. Do you have a second battery fitted and if so where is it located? You talked about weights at the end, how close are you with the van?

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@WarrenMcleod hey mate :) We are about 100kg over with water tanks full so now we have to travel with empty water tanks..... or only one full. Nah we have no 2nd Battery. My mate has one in his tray Cheers mate :)

[@MrCooldudezx]

Hey silly question. I’ve got 265/70 And lift kit 2inch. The. Adaptive cruise control. Doesn’t. Work aswell. Due to the height I’m thinking about going back down to 265 Doesn’t really pick up the front car.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@MrCooldudezx hey mate. So from what I was told by a head gwm tech was the adaptive cruise uses wheel speed for how fast to travel etc to adjust distance to other cars. As soon as you put bigger tyres the car wants to just crash into the car in front haha. It's soo annoying hey because I loved the adaptive cruise control but it's useless with the bigger tyres. They also told me that it can't be calibrated either. Hope this info helps somewhat. If you go back down to 265/65R18 it should fix this.... hopefully. I don't believe it's a height thing.... Cheers 🍻

[@mortaygo1]

At 27.26min is that rust or dust in the door hinge? Great review Ours clicked 75oookm Zero issues. Still no manual burn required

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hahahahaha it's red dust man. Red rust is everywhere still hahaha bloody sooo much! Hahaha Awesome!!!!

[@wheelsbytheocean]

We had a few manual burns around Australia caused by probably crap fuel. But only 2. Now since we got back and it's just goes to shops and school. Now we need em all the time. But Mrs shuts the engine off mid auto burn all the time hahaha

[@fabioandrade5126]

Hey mate, Have you done a tune yet or still standard? Looking at getting a second hand one but was wondering about the power.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@fabioandrade5126 that power is great stock! I just got mine tuned recently though. It's got more power now. But stock was good enough for sure :)

[@jai6006]

We have just traded up from a 22 cannon 2wd traded in at 73000 to a 24 model cannon lux

[@MattStirling-k8d]

How are u liking it

[@jai6006]

@MattStirling-k8d amazing tech handles very well. My only issue is DPF comes on when you are about to switch engine off but that's just the distance I drive have nearly done 8000km.

[@pugs4ever299]

Re- The Hike it Throttle controller / if installed would this void the warranty at all? Thanks EJ

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate. Sorry for the delay. Pretty much if GWM can prove that the throttle controller caused an issue then yes. Anything aftermarket can mess with your warranty on any new cars. But a throttle controller just speeds up a signal from pedal to throttle. It really doesn't do much that could cause an issue..

[@rodtaylor2280]

Still waiting for that honest weight check you said that you would do a few months ago 😮

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate. Yes its coming. We've been working hard to get the setup back to legal. Will do a vid very soon. Gotta get back down the weighbridge :) We got a trip in 2 weeks so hoping to get it there on our way Cheers mate.

[@TKSp3c]

The audio upgrade, is it the DSP unit that savagetech have, am about to buy a cannon and love my music, so would like to get the audio better than stock

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@TKSp3c yeah that's the one I've done a vid on it too DSP by Savage Tech Literally doubles to sound :) Cheers

[@TKSp3c]

@@wheelsbytheocean Thanks for the quick reply, will definitely invest in that...

[@shane6700]

just curious, can someone tell me is it legal to have that extension mirror on side mirror? Great video man, thanks for the unbiased towards chinese car😁

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey 😀 Yes its legal to have the extension mirrors when your towing a caravan or trailer. Cheers 🍻

[@louieyashili]

Great vid! Question, can you drive while a manual regen is in progress?

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@louieyashili Unfortunately no you can't. And thank you :) Cheers 🍻

[@bernardpeel7133]

Great vid. Can’t wait for you to review the Alpha. Reviews to date have consistently said; nice big ute with lots of features, but a shit ride. Will be interesting how you compare it to the ride/comfort of the L/X/Vanta.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate, I haven't done a review on the Alpha :( spewing. I should have done it when I had the chance. Gonna have to borrow one when I can. I drove the Alpha. It drives very similar to the Cannon. Everything felt very similar, but the Alpha definitely felt a bit bigger. I love it so much! I'd definitely have one!

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Also everyone who drove the Alpha also drove the Tank 500 on the same day. The Tank 500 was sooo comfortable so it was hard to jump back into the Alpha with leaf spring rear. It would of made everyone feel like the Alpha was rigid. But it's no different from Cannon :)

[@bernardpeel7133]

@@wheelsbytheocean appreciate the info. Tks. If you ever did a review on the alpha, it would be well received because it’s coming from an actual cannon owner. Cheers.

[@bernardpeel7133]

@@wheelsbytheocean great points!

[@MrCooldudezx]

I have throttle control helps with the aggressive acceleration What’s ur average fuel I have 265 70 tyres and the car seems like doing speed now before 60 felt like 55 My cruise adaptive doesn’t work either with bigger wheel. Any fixes.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate. There is no fix for cruise control. You need to run stock tyre size for adaptive cruise to work. We get around 12-14L per 100kms but we ate very heavy on throttle all the time When towing we get 17-20L per 100 Cheers

[@johnvodanovic6469]

Hey Jordan, thankyou that was a ripper review of GWM for a non mechanical person like me. Have you got any thoughts/feedback on the Cannon Alpha Hybrid? I'm thinking of buying the 2 Litre petrol with the Hybrid motor. I do a lot of short trips during the week so a diesel is not good for that. But I also want to do long trips with my family on weekends with the GWM luxury and space in the cab, so that is me justifying the petrol version in my non mechanical head.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@johnvodanovic6469 hey mate! Thanks for watching :) Yes the Hybrid Alpha is beautiful. Super powerful too. I definitely recommend if doing lots of small trips as the diesels don't seem to love that lifestyle haha Have you driven the Alpha Hybrid yet? It's pretty special 😃 Cheers mate

[@marita486]

Hey Jordan, putting together a tool kit for my 22 cannon advice and specific tools? What isn't needed?

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Gday mate! You need Torx Bits and a 13mm socket hahaha There isn't too much abnormal things on it. Just a pretty generic kit would be fine. Wire strippers, cable ties and electrical tape definitely come in handy many times. Mainly trailer plug issues. Hope that helps :)

[@marita486]

@@wheelsbytheocean thanks mate yep it does cheers.

[@undy22]

Do the manual or automatic burns out weigh the cost of a clogged DPF >tow truck >dealer for a replacement lol my mate had a colorado and within 20,000kms she was clogged tow truck +$1.5k later lol so Id prefer then manual burns vs that lol ,Great vid :)

[@wheelsbytheocean]

That's crazy aye! I do say that to people. It's definitely better then the huge f around doing all that. Especially at 20,000kms That would suck! Cheers mate!

[@elliotkane4443]

Couple years back I hired a Isuzu full size tipper truck to do a job, had it for about 2 weeks, it always wanted to regen, it finally clunked out with a full load of topsoil and went into limp mode in peak hour traffic in Sydney, made about 5km/h top speed, could barely get it into gear without it rolling back and stalling, fun times. - New DPF probably costed the hire mob $7,000+. If you let it go too far no matter how many active or passive regens you do they just won't burn the soot, DPFs are just trash.

[@davidsmith9440]

​@ellioandtkane4443 it was a hire truck, my guess it had been abused and people turning off the regen or didn't let the regen to finish or didn't have a proper service. When that happens the regen will come on often and it will take longer for the regen cycle to complete and after a while wont work properly. Unfortunately most hire places as well as car yards don't either know about dpfs or how to use them. I have been to car yards and asked the sales person how to do a dpf burn on the vehicle i am looking at and they had no idea. So I just walked away.

[@elliotkane4443]

@davidsmith9440 It was an earthmoving hire place focused on budget, so I suppose they might nor have had many dpfs. Pretty dumb, if their insurance didn't cover that it would cost big bucks. Same for DEF, they have to purge or they might not start but if you don't explain that the end user probably won't care when he walks over to flick the isolator.

[@tonymott1806]

Is the hard to start an issue because of a faulty crankshaft sensor? I had a Hyundai Santa Fe, and that was something that I found out. Disnt display any faults at first, just the symptoms.. then, eventually, I got the fault lights and codes display. Perhaps run it past the GWM techs..

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thanks mate :) they found an open circuit in the fuel pump and replaced under warranty. Its now all working great again.

[@adamcarpo6362]

Hi mate have you heard anything about the new cannon having the alpha drive line for 2025. Cheers love you videos.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's the same gear as the Alpha diesel. I've driven it. It's 2.4L and 9 speed. I haven't heard release date but it's definitely close. Cheers mate and sorry for the delay

[@PeterThomas-t7b]

Great review, did you have that transfer oil grade I’m looking at changing mine. Cheers

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate. I recommend using this: www.repco.com.au/oils-fluids/specialty-oils/hydraulic-oil/penrite-tractor-transmission-hydraulic-fluid-20l-tth020/p/A9307408?kwSearch=Penrite%20tractor

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hope that helps you mate :) Cheers

[@PeterThomas-t7b]

@@wheelsbytheocean cheers Jordan 🍺

[@thewoolleyfamily6061]

In your video, you mentioned getting around 16 to 17 kilometers per liter while towing a 3-ton van. However, I’m only getting about 10.6 kilometers per liter, and that’s without towing a van. Have you done something to improve your fuel economy? My driving has mostly been around town with frequent stops and starts. I’m not sure if that would account for the 6-kilometer difference I'm seeing. Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey guys. Yeah with the van on we are usually somewhere between 16 and 19 L per 100. But when driving without the van on we are usually around 12-14L per 100km because we are very heavy on acceleration. 10.6 is pretty good. What were you hoping for out of curiosity? Thanks

[@mitchellapps9865]

@@wheelsbytheocean My Average over 5000km i would say 80% highway is about 9.4L / 100km

[@elliotkane4443]

Glad you're having fun with it, its great to have a car that you get in and it just brings you joy. Seems to me that if you bought one used, out of warranty with that highly taxed 2l diesel motor it'd be falling apart on you by 150k. I'm surprised that its got just 120kw and you reckon it pulls a 3t caravan up a steep hill doing 80, my GU Patrol ute's supposed to have 118kw its got a heavy steel tray, full toolboxes, 3.4t and man that thing struggles in 3rd up some steep hills. Same for the 1KD - 3 litre hilux, you put a canopy, some tools and strap a 2 axle trailer on and you're lucky to make 3rd going up some steep hills and that's '126kw' factory. But yeah, definitely not like those crapbox cars they first came out with, a lot nicer, but I'd be worried about longevity and resale.

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Yes I hear you mate :) Yeah the motor is a bit underpowered but the 8 speed gearbox is where it's at. The 8 speed does all the work really. It's amazing how well it's towed. And yeah I've had all the older diesels. It's amazing how far they've come. Resale goes through my head but I'm gonna keep it for 7 years so not too fussed. Even if it's worth 10k in 7 years it's still around the same you'd loose buying a ranger or hilux. Ish Cheers mate :)

[@ethanmanz7631]

Awesome Vid. Watched it twice! Initially from Bris myself, now up in the bowen basin for work. Currently looking for a dual cab ute and im almost sold on the new Cannon XSR. Aside from the power/ lag that i'd get over, it seems like a solid buy. I'm curious on your opinion about the upcoming Hybrid Alpha. Specifically, its viability to be an offroader with its limited payload and its Hybrid setup. Does the vehicle interest you at all?

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Thanks for watching mate!! Appreciate it. The XSR is pretty awesome hey!! I drove both the diesel and the hybrid Alpha. The diesel is right up my alley! I love the Alpha mate and I'd definitely buy one. The Hybrid was nice and quick and has all the 4x4 features you'd need. I'm just a diesel bloke haha

[@ethanmanz7631]

@@wheelsbytheocean Hey, thanks for the response! Did you notice a discernible difference between the diesel and the hybrid as far as interior design and features go?

[@wheelsbytheocean]

@ethanmanz7631 the interior in the Diesel one was very much the same from memory just missing a screen I think. Ahhh it was too long ago sorry. And I was driving the tank 500 the same day so it's a bit blurry Sorry mate

[@johngrant7979]

Question I’m not saying your cannon can’t tow that van but with a GCM of 5550 kg and your Cannon has a kerb weight of Approximately 2000kg and let’s say you are towing 2800 kg Subtract your van weight . Kerb weight and tow ball weight from your Gross Combination Mass and you would have less than 500 kg up your sleeve for passengers and luggage and modifications tow bar Bull bar etc .. I imagine you are cutting it fine. May be you can and or had a gvm upgrade but generally that doesn’t change your GCM. If the gcm was say 6050 like the LDVT60 that is still a 3000 kg tow limit you would have a bit more up your sleeve. Just curious .. been enjoying your videos 👍

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Yeah I hear ya mate. Out setup was legal before we added all the mods on. The Cannon is good for 3T Towing if you keep it stock. We are trying to work things out and we've almost got it all back to legal. Getting so close haha But yes, what's your saying is all correct. I want the new Cannon Alpha. It's got 3.5 T towing :D Thanks for watching along mate!

[@Adz082]

For the seat 💺 boulster, the average little Chinese man would only weigh 47.4 kilograms, upon testing they should’ve used a fully grown red headed Queenslander 115 kilogram variety to wear test the seats over time?

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hahahahahahaha! Best comment 👌🏽

[@DanielWellington-yv9mt]

How many klms you get out of a tank with and without the caravan on? I'm planning a trip from Melbourne to Sydney and back and wanna try work out how many times I will be stopping to fill up

[@wheelsbytheocean]

Hey mate. I've never really watched that. But you can calculate with this. I average 12L per 100 without towing (I thrash it) And when towing we get 17.5L per 100 Cheers mate Hope that helps

[@DanielWellington-yv9mt]

Thanks mate I had my first one a 22 model as low as 8 per 100 hopefully the 23 is just as good