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[@philscomputerlab]

Sorry guys, when I checked Alien: Isolation on the XBox Game Pass page, it showed a release date of April 8 2020 and I didn’t think to double check. So it turns out that this is actually a game released in 2014, so no wonder it runs so well. Apologies for the mistake...

[@saptadeepnath8390]

On my main PC, the windows update downloaded the wrong driver for audio, the audio waa missing and the driver was very new, almost 10 months for updated then the one available on my motherboard site. On my secondary pc, windoes update Windows didn't even search for audio drivers Also for Doom game, I found my GTX 1050Ti runs the game with some dips below 50 but on Ultra settings and the Nightmare shadow. Probably an optimization thing

[@hideouslyric6679]

Lmao, that's hilarious! More gaming pc bargain hunting videos bro! youre awesome.

[@mesterak]

I didn’t care about he dates. Showcasing what works is fine enough

[@SUCRA]

It's still a great game and good looking.

[@eggball8765]

I know im late but how much is this in total?

[@Airbag888]

That moment when all your stress goes away.. that moment when the popup that Phil has put out a new video hits your screen

[@philscomputerlab]

Thanks :D

[@volf3r505]

@@philscomputerlab Phil, why did you neutered this C2Q ? Everyone that stakes claim as PC hardware enthusiast/historian should know that C2D/C2Q generation benefited inmensly from FSB overclock. You have Corsair XMS 2 from the purple heatspreader edition - this is certifiably OC-able to 950+ mhz . This CPU shoud easily hit 3.3 Ghz with ease. Now go and do that and redo the tests :)

[@Airbag888]

@@volf3r505 let him be. Phil is a vanilla enthusiast that is power conscious

[@bradwicks5438]

@@volf3r505 I think his board is only a G41 chipset, one of mine is and I was still able to get a max bus speed of 415 MHz & I was able to get my Q9400 to 3315 MHz (it has an 8 multi), it will go higher but on that very cheap chipset going over 415 bus speed knocks out the PCI bus & you lose your sound & NIC, because it auto raises the PCI-e bus to 105 MHz & on that low end board there is no way to ungang PCI & PCI-e & if you lock PCi-e to 100 to 103 MHz it will not post at that OC.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

4:00 I am not on a shoestring budget. I just like watchin your vids.

[@kiba3x]

idiot ...

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@kiba3x Who...you?

[@blendded6248]

@@kiba3x wow rude

[@dakata2416]

so you are not spamming only TechYesMan comment section?

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@dakata2416 it's not spam if they're givin me hearts :P

[@PixelShade]

I have this exact same setup and it runs beautifully (except cpu instruction compatibility). I did incremental updates between 2007 and 2012 (it currently has 120GB SSD + 2TB HDD, 16GB 1066MHz Memory, Q9550 and a Radeon 7870). I'm always blowned away of how incredibly modern this setup still feels in everyday use! It's not my main computer anymore, but I use it as a living-room PC for media consumption and light-weight multiplayer games like Overcooked, Dirt 3 etc. Out of curiosity I connected it to my main freesync display and tried modern games on it and was BLOWN AWAY! Some games still hit 60fps on 1080p, but others that don't reach that fraerate, Freesync display fixes all the stutters, and usually I found locking the fps to 45 was a wonderful middle ground. MUCH smoother and responsive than 30fps, but still not putting as much strain on the CPU. I will keep this computer for a very long time, because I'm curious how long you can actually play on it decently... the motherboard is 13 years old, and although it started as a core2duo I still feel like the modular nature of PCs shines bright with this one. who would've thought that I could play Doom Eternal on a 13 year old machine? (sure I had to patch the game with a SSE 4.2 fix, but still!)

[@jb678901]

I had the Q6600 on a DELL XPS420 for 11 years. The power supply had a design life of between 10 and 11 years. It died as designed. Still not bad. Unfortunately, the motherboard went with it, so I retired the rig. Blow out the dust every few months and replace the thermal paste annually...should last awhile longer.

[@alexm8226]

This reminds me of my old rig: Asus P5q Pro Q9450 (OC to 3.88Ghz) 8GB DDR2 (OC to 1066Mhz) GTX 750 TI Stil works to this day :D

[@shaneeslick]

I still have a LGA775 for running XP (my 35mm/Slide Scanner won't run on a newer OS) plus my old games on CD/DVD, like C&C, Zoo Tycoon, Sim City 4 & S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl, GA-G33M-S2 C2Q9650 (OC to 3.6, it gets over 40 °C/104.0 °F here) 4GB 800MHz (OC to 1066MHz) Gainward GTX460GS-GLH

[@PrzeszczepiX]

i have E5450 xeon overclocked to 4.2GHz which matches with AMD FX-8350 in performance

[@alertol]

I used E5450 / Gigabyte P35-DS4 with GTX970 for a couple of months (while waiting for X99-TF) but didn't benchmark it (it was enough for all of my games at custom settings, I don't play at highest, don't like when picture is too advanced)

[@sirfairplay9153]

similar to mine, and it's had heavy use for the last 8 years, recently paired with a 1050, my niece now uses it

[@shaneeslick]

@@sirfairplay9153 they do make great Homework PCs & capable of gaming really well for kids 😁

[@aldenlimhengyi]

Long live 775 indeed :’)

[@IronicTonic8]

If I were aiming for a quad core bundle, I'd look for an i5 2500k or even a plain old 2400. Add an RX 570 and you're ready to play modern games in 1080p medium.

[@IronicTonic8]

@@AM-mk3zc Good deal, I was just looking recently to upgrade my parents computer. I got a 2500 for about the same.

[@kyles8524]

disable 2 cores and run crysis...youll gain like 20 more fps.I used to have a core 2 quad and the games designed to run best on a core 2 duo and did this.the more cores this game tries to use the worse the fps gets

[@Choralone422]

I second this. In the Core 2 Quad days I ran into a few games that ran better with 2 cores than 4 enabled. It comes from how the C2Q uses the FSB to allow the 2 cores of the CPU to talk to the other 2 cores since a C2Q is just 2 Core 2 Duos strapped together. If the FSB is saturated your FPS will tank.

[@earthborn8385]

E8600 ftw at 4.5ghz XD!!

[@SUCRA]

This is very interesting, I had no ideia.

[@nap8187]

Makes sense as these CPUs are two dies actually. For the two dies to talk to one another it has to be done thru the Northbridge ircc. That's... A very slow thing to happen.

[@sallamali7478]

how?

[@angelrios437]

Yes you channel and web site are clear and informative.. keep that pace.. most other sites have become junk..Keep the good work..

[@thecondor9744]

Ah the socket 775, good times. I had an E8500 oc'ed to 4ghz, 8GB DDR2 at 840ish mhz and the 9600gt with 1GB. I remember "dreaming" about the 1066mhz DDR2 and the E8600 (only for the x10 multiplier). 2 years ago I bought both. Now the DDR2 at 1066mhz and the E8600 are in my bedside table. Some dreams come true :)

[@joeyvdm1]

Awesome. I really enjoyed the vid Phil, as always. I have been looking forward to your Friday vid all day, and it didn't disappoint. The Core 2/Quad CPU were a big step up for Intel in performance and used a lot less power (compared to Pentium 4). I still have a e8400, Q6600 and a q9550 lying around and remember them fondly. They are excellent overclockers and that can be fun. But I agree, they have aged and are better suited to older games, barring the odd exception. Thank you so much for the vid Phil, I did really enjoy it👍

[@dhgodzilla1]

Both times I ordered a used Gigabyte Motherboard from Ali Express the Onboard Audio gave out after a couple days. Both were from this Era of Motherboards, one was an Intel 775 with DDR3 RAM & the other was an AM3 AMD with DDR3 RAM. The 775 Board was absolutely filthy, I had to give it a Bath. But despite that issue they work fine, I just got Sound Cards for both to get around that.

[@jb678901]

Used to have the venerable Q6600 (Quad duo) running in a DELL XPS420. For the last 6 of its 11 years in use, I did a BSEL mod to the CPU to change the FSB clock from 1066 to 1333 MHz. This shifted the core clock from 2.4Ghz to 3.0Ghz under a locked BIOS. A 25% overclock. People with unlocked branded motherboards could go much higher (3.5Ghz easy) with a decent cooler. The DELL was a BTX design, so no possibility to do that upgrade. The mod is very simple. A very small piece of black electrical tape placed over ONE pad that is located just above the right notch on the far right side of that CPU. CPU orientation in defining Right versus Left: Lid face down, socket notches oriented right and left facing the eye, with the notches closer to the CPU's bottom edge. Carefully place the small piece of insulative tape over that single pad with tweezers. Carefully insert the CPU in the socket and voila...3.0Ghz right off of the bat. Best and most stable overclock in my experience, given the OEM limitations imposed in the bios. duckduckgo.com/?q=Q6600+BSEL+mod&t=chromentp&atb=v209-1&ia=images&iax=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Flivedoor.blogimg.jp%2Fjhjn%2Fimgs%2Fa%2F0%2Fa0147251.JPG

[@bitelaserkhalif]

For whatever reason, when I swapped motherboard my e7500 didn't go beyond 305mhz FSB (stock 2.93 goes to 3.3) I once overclocked the fsb to 333mhz for same result on biostar g41d3+

[@Zerotwo-ks8rg]

It's even better for Windows XP retro gaming too.

[@powerspec88]

I had this exact motherboard back in the day! It ran my Q6600 at 3.2GHz all day long!

[@DoomGuy9001-MK4]

I had a motherboard very similar to that one on my first computer build. The memories.

[@gandharvmohan9572]

This was my dream combo a long ago. I am gonna order it again for my pfsense box. I already have 3 pci ethernet cards lying around to make a solid load-balancer + firewall + router 😁

[@GoobyGooby]

Hmm have a core 2 quad with a r7 260. makes me want to make a retro windows XP gaming PC.

[@shaneeslick]

that is how I play my old games on CD/DVD, I have a C2Q9650, 4GB DDR2 & GTX460GS GLH & it works awesome with XP

[@krz8888888]

Love the motherboard, nice mix of lecacy and current technology for 22$. Useful to keep around in the future as pci/ide/fdd systems disappear.

[@krz8888888]

Also parallel and serial ports, really a nice transitionnal system

[@Cpt_Wolf]

@@krz8888888 I have like 10 different LGA 775 mobo's, just in case. Maybe one day :D.

[@user-kd4pg8hu7t]

Socket 775 won't surrender soon! Hey, Phil, the day before I upgraded a friend's laptop. From a Pentium T4200 @2.0GHz (and measly 1MB L2 cache) to a Core 2 P9600 @2.67 GHz, 6MB cache, 1066 MHz FSB; also doubled the RAM from 4GB to 8GB (DDR3). This doubled the Cinebench scores!!! The system feels very responsive for everyday ordinary use. Comparing to your Cinebench scores, I have 136 cb/73 single core (R15 score) and 293/160 pts (R20 score). Yours are 273 and 576 respectively but for a quad core, so the results are scaled extremely well.

[@outtheredude]

My Q9650 @ 3.0GHz, with Gigabyte EP35-DS3R & 8GB (4x2GB) of G.Skill DDR2 1000, uses a BeQuiet! Shadow Rock LP cooler, which, at the time of purchase (2016), stll came with Socket 775 support. ;-)

[@bleem2951]

Phil, if you play with core affinity on older games, you can eventually get much better performance. On some games I can get stable 80-100fps with game running on 2 cores rather than the stuterry mess 20 to 60fps with all 4 cores. This is a well known Windows problem and people use to blaim Ryzen for the stutters, but it actually happens on Intel as well. If anyone is struggle to just play a older title, Crisys on the video is a great exemple, where Windows try to spread the load on 4 cores and we know the game is pretty much single/dual core designed. Atom/Celeron machine can also benefit from this. Go to Task manager/details and select from there, if want to make it persistent use Process Lasso.

[@TheDemocrab]

Fun, mostly irrelevant fact: The memory and FSB base clock would be synced, but the actual transfers wouldn't because the FSB is quad pumped (ie. Sends data 4 times per clock) while DDR is dual pumped. But that's an easy "good setting" as that allows the CPU plenty of bandwidth for GPUs, storage I/O and the other cards you may or may not have. (Personally, I tend to go for a tad over half - I have a 1600Mhz FSB and 1066Mhz CL5 DDR2 for my C2Q retro rig, although I might muck around with bumping FSB clocks if I decide to go dual GPU on it.)

[@jonchapman6821]

Thanks for this comment, I ventured down here to find out more about that.

[@danielberrett2179]

Just wish core 2 quads had more up to date CPU features. AVX SSE 4.2 They would be excellent relevant Low End gaming platforms.

[@AshraffNorAriff]

I had the exact same motherboard. OCed the juice out of my 1.86Ghz E6300 until stable 3.15Ghz.

[@Reziac]

Quite a nice board, interesting to see how far it can be pushed. I have several LGA775 boards (mine are Asus and Intel, being whatever fell on my head) and it's had a good run. I'm not a gamer but the only reason I'm retiring my main box of this era is that it's really started to struggle with CPU-intensive stuff like what Google Maps has become.

[@batofgotham4383]

Thanks Phil for a another great vid! I have to join those in front of me the s775 platform is a legend. 12-13 old hardware is capable of running windows 10 and with a smooth experience. Of course is not a i9 10900K. I have an P5E3 Premium/WiFi-AP@n mobo with a E8600 and a Q9650 too with Mushkin DDR3 and a GTX580. Guys I have to say it's an awesome retro rig.

[@directionlessstudios7210]

Wow your GOG #’s are impressive, most impressive.

[@philscomputerlab]

I'm a hoarder... In 10 years you'll see me on TV lol

[@directionlessstudios7210]

You and me both, my friend. :-D

[@GrzegorzOklinski]

Few months ago i bought dell t5500 with single x5675, 24gb of ddr3 ecc ram, 1tb hdd and quadro 4000. I use it mainly as a server for 3d printers. Now, this hosts simultaneusly: 3d drawing software, 3d printing slicing software, 4x 3d printers via usb (i bought 2x4 usb 2.0 pcie cards for 4$ each), 172745 chrome tabs on two displays, heroes3 in tye background/cs:go or similar. This machine ended 130$ + .5tb ssd. I honestly think you cant get better with this kind of money. All designing stuff works flawlessly, games go decent, machine is stable, suited for basically 24/7, with strong case and psu. And best for last. For about 150$ i can get riser + 2nd x5675 + additional 24gbs of ram, so even this workstation is probably 5-7 years old, its still upgradable!

[@davidfranklinv2860]

this is the board I built my recent win xp retro PC from. great board. great video!

[@Ubereme]

YAY!!! More Videos to keep me sane!!

[@batman9592]

This is basically my backup machine. Not that it really matters but you will need to be able to OC the CPU. This means you might want good RAM and a Mobo like this. I did beat Alien Isolation with this setup. SLI GTX460s (yes Crossfire board). The only setting that really matters is the floor reflections. Plenty of guides online. The hardest part is near the end when there's fire, but at the start (in the Med Lab) is also taxing on the system, probably a slight optimisation issue. Long live 775. (my Q6600 won't die @4GHz and 1.6v+)

[@PierreVonStaines]

Argh I'm watching one of you video's and then a new one comes out. It's a good job I've got two eyes to each eye can watch a video independently!

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

A best-of-all-worlds cheap PC! Windows XP and Windows 10 dual boot and we're good to go!

[@kacpreusz9911]

Windows 7 is a better choice. Or if you want ms support, install 8.1

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@kacpreusz9911 Windows 10 has DX12 support. Win8 missing the start menu.

[@kacpreusz9911]

@@MarcoGPUtuber i'm taking about 8.1. You can install Classic Shell. Who needs DX12 on a computer that most likely doesn't support it

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@kacpreusz9911 I know. But 8.1 was also god awful.

[@kacpreusz9911]

@@MarcoGPUtuber No it wasn't? I had 8.1 on an Athlon 64X2 pc and it worked perfectly fine, it was stable and all

[@mesterak]

Do the 771 bios mod, throw in a Xeon E5450 or X3363 and try those games again. 👍

[@triniking1234]

Rest in peace, Core 2 Quad.

[@redleader7988]

The q9650 would have been ok.

[@californium-2526]

Replaced by, 2nd gen i5s. Though Ryzen 1st gen will replace i5 2nd gen soon.

[@edirwin8784]

ahhhh...windows XP & Intel 775 CPU go together like bread & butter!!

[@moebius2k103]

I love the way you pronounce Wolfenstein. I’ve got a HP workstation from that era with a Q9500 that I took the original Quadro card out of and put in a Radeon HD 5770, it’s a ripper XP machine.

[@philscomputerlab]

Hehe thanks :D

[@theepicemoji5602]

I have an i7-4790 w/ a lp gtx 1650 and 16gb of DDR3 on an hp sff machine, But I really enjoy watching your videos, very entertaining and informative :)

[@spoonnz]

I have a very similar machine, Same motherboard, Q6600 running at 3.0 GHz, GeForce 8800GT, 250 SSD and 8 Gb ram slightly overclocked. Great little all-rounder with Xp and 7 dual boot system. for months now it was my go too for classic games from my youth.

[@johanandersson8689]

Very nice video! I built a computer similar to this for my youngest son a couple of days ago, and I think that it performs very well. Your advice in this video will become very handy for me and will make him very happy. The computer has a Core2 Quad Q9550, a Geforce GTX 970, and 12 gigs of RAM. I know that I created a giant bottleneck with the CPU/GPU combo, but I wanted to be able to upgrade the motherboard/CPU if my project failed. I don't agree with your assessment that the games (Fortnite, for instance) run poorly. When I was a kid, I ran Doom on a 386SX, so I'm damaged for life when it comes to detecting poor FPS.

[@philscomputerlab]

That's very nice! 12 GB RAM is interesting, is this a DDR3 board?

[@johanandersson8689]

​@@philscomputerlab Yes, it is DDR3, which is handy if I want to upgrade to something newer. As stated in other comments, the 775 motherboards are very likable. They are (in my opinion) not quite retro, yet they often have retro features. I get the feeling that this platform will get the same status as the Pentium III Tualatin among retro enthusiasts in 10 to 20 years. Maybe I'm having too warm feelings towards this platform, but I think that there is something that stands out with it.

[@DeViLzzz2006]

My goodness for $50 you can get quite a bit. I am still stunned how optimized some games are and it tells you there is no excuse for the developers that don't get their games to run on older hardware. Also yes .. Socket 775 FTW forever!

[@065muhammadnurimanbinabdul6]

Already have pretty decent pc but its not wrong to add more knowledge

[@ricardobarros1090]

Great! I have in my Thrird PC: G41 Gigabyte DDR3 and xeon e5450(from Aliexpress)

[@beltdriven2371]

A Core 2 Quad will run Battlefield V, at least as of about 3-4 months ago. It ran with a 2.33 GHz C2Q, 8 gbs of 800MHz DDR2, an old Asus board, and an AMD 6850.

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Phil, I love these LGA775 Setups, especially the old Gigabyte & ASUS M/Bs with the Monster VRM/NorthBridge/Southbridge coolers that look like little Cities 😍, also the nVidia SLI chipped ones

[@maltomeal3]

I've used that motherboard a few years ago with an LGA 771 mod and overclocked it fairly well. I paired it with a GTX 960.

[@philscomputerlab]

That's a good combination.

[@carosel43]

I have set up a c2d E7500 system with 4gb of ram and windows XP. I use it for some old flight sim games i used to play and it runs nicely with an HD6670 graphics card and an ancient 320gb sata hard disk. Its almost silent and eats these old games for breakfast. Socket 775 still has its uses :)

[@munio1000]

Did you try OC this q9400? this chip is screaming "OC ME!" I can hear this in Poland :)

[@bluescluessuperagent]

I assume you wrote this without watching the whole video

[@kjell-thoreheimdal7526]

@@bluescluessuperagent where in the video does he overclock the chip? c2d are legendary overclockers. my e6300 was running at 3,5ghz 500mhz fsb just fine on a p35 chipset.

[@bluescluessuperagent]

@@kjell-thoreheimdal7526 he flat out states he doesn't guy asked "did you try and OC" and he didn't. he said others could, but he's not into OC'ing. around the 9:50 mark right at the end of the Fortnite segment

[@kjell-thoreheimdal7526]

@@bluescluessuperagent okok, I jumped over the fortnite segment, I just cant handle that game.

[@MultiWirth]

your power supply will cry too.

[@Haocuto62dendon]

In Vietnam, Q9650 have 10 dollars and X5462 have 12 dollars

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

Good video, keep it up! ..775 today needs clock speed to have a chance, That chipset is not known for great overclocking, You'd probably hit a wall before 360fsb which is not good when you are starting out at 333. I would use a Q6700 over a Q9400 on that motherboard (Q6700 starts at 266fsb) , you'd probably get around 3.4ghz or so. Run your memory as fast as it will go, I don't know if that motherboard has a "memory divider" with the fsb but even if it doesn't I would still run the ram as fast as it will go.

[@federicocatelli8785]

Not worth the effort (imho) for gaming (recent stuff) you need at least a 3rd/4th gen i7 (with some oc)

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

@@federicocatelli8785 It's worth the effort if you already have it and just want to have a bit of fun.

[@Wushu-viking]

Nice video. Yes.. the LGA775 is "dead" for modern games/e-sport today. Apex Legends was the title that killed it. The platform in 2019 did struggle with Fortnite - unless you have a Quad (45nm with 12mb Cache) clocked at least @3.4 with 1066@cl5 RAM) and the good P45 or X48 chipset. Even then, it still has some (minor) lag spikes in Fortnite (thanks to the updates on that game = forced obsoletion) Today we need the first gen i7 for that. LGA1366 that is. Low input lag, high memory bandwidth Less than 2 months ago, I got a cheap LGA1366 rig with the i7-920(the first C1) with a OEM Packard Bell mainboard (No OC). What surprised me is how this 11+ year old 2.66 GHz warm running beast. thanks to memory bandwidth and hyperthreading, still handles modern games. Coupled with 12 gig Triple-channel and a GTX 680 2GB videocard, it can do Fortnite at 60+ FPS smooth as well as GS:GO at 100+ FPS. Even the more demanding new titles at 30+ FPS. Minimal stuttering... But low settings in demending AAA-titles, thanks to only 2GB VRAM. Get a card with 4GB, and you are on for 1080P medium settings pretty smooth on that old platform. Even better with a 3+ GHz. 6c/12t CPU . The X58 is one superb old platform, that still hangs on in 2020. Not so fast, but is has the low-end torque to get you though the mud. But I guess this is next to go. My guess is, they will implement "require" (even if not nescessary) AVX instuctions on more future games, and that will make this solid platform "obsolete" next.

[@Matt08719801]

i just purchased the old quake II disc i use to own when i bought my first pc back in late 2001 , good memories , it runs on windows xp , i already had the gog version and was using source ports like yamagiquake on my windows 7 main system it was just fun to relieve my first quake II experience on pc its fun i now know why ive always been into getting patches etc to get old games to work on current systems i use . i'm about to get a windows 98 SE system setup next , i have a few windows 98 games that refuses to run right on xp , most do but not all , main issue has been vocal speeds , in racing games speech is way too fast etc, it might have something to do with the xeon quad core 1155 chip in my windows xp system lol.

[@NightMotorcyclist]

If you are absolutely strapped for cash and running something even older/ slower then sure. That processor should still be fine when paired with entry to mid level GPUs from 2019 and maybe from 2020. Talking 1650 Super but I would like to see what how it would perform with a Geforce GTX 1660/ Super.

[@gorjy9610]

It will perform a same like in this video. Even something like gtx960 is overkill for this CPU. Maybe with OC and with faster memory you can get few FPS more but that's it. In these days when we read that latest new low-end CPU beat few years mainstream gaming one (r3 3xxx vs i7 7700) it will be really too much to expect anything from more than decade old CPU. They can be still useful but not for gaming.

[@poinguan]

Feeling proud of my G31, Pentium E5800 & GT440 rig.

[@smashandburnyt6938]

CRTs can be bought used for cheap, but now they are hard to find

[@psyolent.]

awesome phil, had a few of these years ago as ESX servers, they were an awesome platform, ep35 and ep45 GA units. for a long while i've been saying the CPU is not overly the bottleneck good to have it validated to a point minus some of the newer titles which do need the extra cycles as well as extra cores (and threads)

[@BitsAndTips]

👋 Hi! I had one P35 DS3L with a Xeon X5450 (mod 771-775) and for the price is not bad, not bad 😎😎😎 . As you said, for modern games sometimes need to put the game settings to lowest. 👍👍👍 Nice video as always. Cheers!

[@batman9592]

The 771 Xeon upgrade path is cool. These systems are crying for more CPU OC.

[@BitsAndTips]

@@batman9592 Yep! You're right but it need a better cooling solution, as you can see in my game tests the temps are too high in my opinion. Thank you! Cheers!

[@caraforsythe5830]

I use the 775 platform for my NAS, the core 2 quad is more than enough to drive a Plex server and the G41/P45 chipset is very compatible with hard drives and PCI devices.

[@AllboroLCD]

I imagine that modern game optimization is no simple task, hence why most games these days seem to use the same small handful of engines were used to seeing.

[@garyhope6577]

Hey Phil. Thanks for posting this one. As soon as I saw the motherboard I knew where this was going. I built a retro gaming PC a couple of weeks back with a Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 and a Radeon HD7850. The intention was, Use the best "Worst" components I had that were supported under Windows XP. I have not been disappointed. All the games I used to play in the late 90's - early to mid 2000's have worked so far that I haven't been able to use in so long. I'm as happy as a pig in sh..... mud. The setup you built tested in this video. Would I recommend it ? Heck yes if that goal means no expectation to run software produced after around 2012. The first old game I tried that I haven't been able to play was Psygnosis's Lander with a Glide wrapper installed. Works flawlessly. Next will be Need For Speed Porsche Unleashed. I can't wait :)

[@FatheredPuma81]

I think this could pair well with something like an R9 390. Saw some going for $65 before all this stuff happened. Of course though it'd depend on what you can get for what price that's reasonable really and for a "balanced" system you'd want something more around a $20-$30 graphics card.

[@DeadlyGamingLV]

That would make a nice Win 95 and Win 98SE build. I actually installed Win 95 OSR 2.5 on a Core 2 Duo but had to use the FIX95CPU disc before it's copying of files onto the 128GB SD card I had in it due to the processor limitation it has. Even though I like doing quirky stuff like that, this setup is ideal for a Win XP or a Win 2K build for sure.

[@lefizz55]

I've got a similar motherboard, Xeon LGA 775 modded, 8GB ram, got everything for under €50. It overclocked to 4ghz easily.

[@lefizz55]

Just looked it up X5460 I paid £12 3 years ago and that is an excellent CPU for overclocking if you can get a decent 775 board. Well over 4 GHz but you need a reasonable cooler and power supply. I just did it for fun, could game pretty well if partnered with a sensible graphics card. Probably something like a 1050 would be sensible.

[@deeloc5500]

This board was rock solid back in the days: In 2007 this motherboard was in my main gaming pc with E6550 Core2duo @2.33Ghz 2gb ram + 8600GTS 256Mb GDDR3 later got upgrade to Q9300 + The Legendary HD4850 and 4gb ram (even my brother had p35-ds3 board, I still have his board but got PCI-E bus issues)

[@fourthdirective]

It's also worth checking out Video games that support Mantle the predessecor to Vulkan.

[@russelrenznerosa8969]

It would make more sense if the benchmarks for the older 4 cores like this is focused on free to play E-Sports which includes CS GO, Valorant, Dota 2 or League Of Legends. Buyers will end up playing in this category since buying new games will not going to be a playable experience anyway. @PhilsComputerLab

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

for a while there I played Alien Isolation on my then main pc with a Q6600. It wouldn't even launch on a gtx 285, but when that died and got fed up with a Radeon 7770 refusing to let me have any displays enabled at all for a while, I got fed up and picked up a gtx 960. I think Alien Isolation cares more about the graphics card than the CPU. Given that it was on PS3 and Xbox 360 before it showed up on PS4 and Xbox One, it does make some degree of sense.

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea I updated in a pinned comment. It showed release date of this year, but I didn't check. Seems it's an old game.

[@kztech1319]

I did spend C$100 a couple of years ago on an OptiPlex 755, 8GB RAM, Xeon X3363 and was quite happy with what I got when paired with then C$200 GTX 1050 Ti. It mainly played rise of the tomb raider and with a 3.2Ghz overclock it definitely runs better than shown here with the correct settings. The system still works perfectly fine just yeah it has aged

[@batman9592]

That's awesome. I'd be in the same boat except my new (2nd hand) GPU came with a free computer with better 1366 socket. I got a GTX1070 for AU$250 now.

[@kztech1319]

@@batman9592 I'm onto LGA2011 Xeons now. The appeal is I have hundreds of 2gb and 4gb DDR3 ECC sticks and I wanna sell those off tested working and that I was buying the motherboard straight from Taobao, which is much cheaper than aliexpress

[@yakacm]

I have a similar machine, mine has a Q9550 and the motherboard is DDR3 I have 8 Gig and SATA2, I have a HD5970 in it ATM and even that set up won't run Crysis maxed out and get 60 FPS! The HD 5970 was ATI's top of the range graphics card with 2 GPU's on it and it's from 2-3 years after Crysis came out, makes no sense. Nice video anyway Phil, thanks. Oh meant to say I run Win 7 on it, I had Vista originally, but with Win 7 you can have modern browsers, Steam and use MS built in AV.

[@nhansgoofyvideos7581]

Overclock the BCLK will get you higher FSB speed as well as higher cpu clocks, would help a lot with games that need bandwidth.

[@unexplainedphenom81]

Great video Phil. My htpc is running a Q9450 and rx480 Strix 8gb. Of course the cpu is a bottleneck and some newer games are just unplayable. I have a 3000g I will he putting into the htpc until I replace my 2600.

[@carlospulido6224]

There was a sale with a complete build (minus the GPU) for around 120$ close were i live, it was the Maximus Formula II MB with that same CPU, OG 212 cooler , 4 gb memory and 500 GB sata HDD, but the guy paused the sale due to this crisis... i was close to having the money for it.

[@UncommonKnowledge587]

That mobo has a really impressive heatsink on the northbridge. Best feature.

[@Cpt_Wolf]

Last platform which like when you ran FSB and RAM in sync was Athlon XP. Intel's LGA 775 definitely isn't such platform. Having any other setup than Athlon XP and lowering ram speed to run it in sync with FSB, will basically make it to run slower. Just so you now for the future Phil ;).

[@rpcheesman]

My first motherboard... Ah the memories :)

[@yagopone7404]

Seems like a good option if you don’t feel like buying a used optiplex on Craigslist

[@goqwertygo]

My first new parts gaming PC had a similar Gigabyte board GA-965P-S3 back from 2007

[@matthewplehn4271]

First of all its good to see content coming from you on a regular basis...it sucked when we had to wait 2 weeks for some good honest content. I want to buy your RX 580..lol...both Polaris and Pascal are IMO legendary already they both still rock and give you a good experience in graphics..and your right, socket 775 is also a platform that was/is so good its still relevant today, again IMO. Alien isolation..yea that game has stunning graphics..Ive tried twice to play it...im just not a sneak sneaky player..I love run and gun and thats why ive played Doom 3 times .....anyway thank you for the excellent content

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea I have holidays at the moment, so might soon be going back to doing a video every second week. It's been very stressful for me this year. RX cards are easy to find on AliExpress so take a look :)

[@user-js4qu5ck4o]

Still good choice in this year

[@user-kd4pg8hu7t]

I am also upgrading a friend's desktop 775 PC. Already got a Xeon e5450, 2x4 GB DDR2 800MHz RAM, SSD. I only need to get a new PSU, a case and a GPU. I was aiming for an RX470 4GB, but I may go for an RX580 8GB, as they cost only a little bit more and will do better if go for a Ryzen platform later on. This will be the gaming system for his son (a sports game fan). The best of all, I'll just get another motherboard and use the old components (plus another SSD) as an office PC for the father.

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

There's"Caribbean crisis" free on IndieGala,and,a LOT of oldies,but,still a nice ones. Btw, tried to run Q9550 with 2 x 4 GB ddr3. Still,a 🐕

[@nicmonberg5974]

That graphics card is way too powerful for that cpu the bottleneck would be massive this cpu should be paired with something like a 6870 max

[@yakacm]

I was thinking that, and it's way pricey too compared to the cheap parts, I can see what Phil is trying to do thou, save money on the rest of the system and then spend the money on a graphics card.

[@lagginswag]

Have two DDR2 rigs still. One with a phenom II x4 945 @ 3.3, hd 6950 1gb flashed to 6970 shader count, 16gb 667mhz as well as an old optiplex755 with a q6600 slacr g0 revision tape modded at 3.0, gtx 550ti and 8gb corsair 800mhz. The phenom II bottlenecks the 6950 a bit and had trouble feeding a gtx 760 as well. Fx 8320 @ 4.3 runs even my rx 480 good enoug and aged better than expected.

[@abdaimegaming2679]

where's the link to the bundle ?

[@TehDrewsus]

Something like this would be cool for a NAS setup I'm doing, minus the gaming components. I want something that can run headless/RDP, but with Video if I NEED to.

[@MarcRitzMD]

Don't do it, consider buying an optiplex or z230 by HP

[@MaksimSSM]

High power consumptionfor NAS: hot processor + dedicated graph card.

[@TehDrewsus]

@@MaksimSSM hence minus gaming components...

[@MarcRitzMD]

@@TehDrewsus it is a terrible choice for a NAS. The old cpu will total an idle power consumption of 150W, with highs up to a hundred watts higher. That is ten times more electricity than is reasonable for a NAS. Just spend the money for the biggest single-disk hdd you can get. 8 TB maybe. Then put it into a 3.5" enclosure and hook it up to your router via usb. If your router doesn't support functioning as a NAS via usb, then you got a shitty router anyway and need to upgrade it.

[@TehDrewsus]

@@MarcRitzMD 🙄🙄

[@voteDC]

I have a very similar Gigabyte board in my parts stash, it's a GA-EP43-DS3 and has a x5460 (tape mod) in it. I'm always tempted to put together a system with it but finding decent prices on full size ATX cases turns out to be more difficult that I thought.

[@UpLateGeek]

"Bundle 0"? Does that mean we're going to see more $50 bundles?

[@zman8845]

I still use socket 775 with Xeon 771 cpu's. My main desktop computer and our HTPC both run windows 10 64bit without any issues. I'm not a gamer, which is just fine.

[@nikmilosevic1696]

Still have a couple Q9650 based PCs for testing, I must admit Im constantly surprised how well they have held up considering their age, especially when you plug a reasonable GPU into it. But true, new games are a no go here. It does run Mechwarrior Mercenaries rather well though, which is still a personal favourite... :)

[@hickey1292]

Surprised Fornite of all things was struggling. That thing is optimised to run well on fairly weak hardware normally.

[@stevesmith1383]

Not in recent months (or maybe a year at this point). I build and sell PCs on top of having a large hardware collection I mess around with and honestly I dislike running Fortnite even with a i5-2400 And I basically gave up on anything less than a 4th gen i3, and even that struggles

[@euX222X]

Take a E5462 2.8GHz 12MB cache 80W TDP 10US$, you will only need to update the BIOS with 771 microcode...

[@SleeperJohns]

I wonder how the 965P variant of this mainboard fairs out. I also heard that you can use it with Windows 98SE. Don't know how true that is, but I'm curious since the video you've done with Windows 98 and PCI-e graphics cards. I'm also curious if we can get Nvidia working as well and how modern we can push it under Windows 98. Call it A Fun Overkill Windows 98 Build.

[@philscomputerlab]

I've showcased newer chipsets running 98! Some PCIe graphics also work, but you can mostly just use PCI cards, so make sure your board has heaps of slots, which shouldn't be difficult.

[@juliedurose991]

Phil, it would interesting to see you do the cheapest build that can play current games at high settings at 1080p with 60fps or more. Unless you already did that? Comparing the cheapest AMD vs the cheapest intel that can do that could also be interesting. What do you think?

[@kalytv6440]

really good for an emulation station

[@swag-cc4uc]

If you're in the US, you can grab a i5 3rd gen for $15-20, a Optiplex board for $15, and some RAM for $20.

[@bluescluessuperagent]

these videos are rarely for us Yanks

[@MaksimSSM]

Communism prices ))

[@CoolDudeClem]

1:22 "this one is a little more, 22 dollars" Dam, I thought you were talking about that GPU! What GPU is that? I have to have one! If it peforms that well in this $50 build, In my computer (which is way more powerfull than what we have here), with that GPU in it, my games would fly!

[@philscomputerlab]

I'm using a RX 580 8 GB

[@soumyajitdeb3943]

I have the same mainboard a q6600, 4GB ram and a Radeon x1900xtx in my windows xp retro rig. I would definitely not use it in a modern use case.

[@jongjie]

hi Phil could u put death stranding next time in ur game list, cause I heard that this game is not supported by older hardwares this would interesting to see how it runs on older hardware! thx BTW.

[@matthewday7565]

I'd guess that dual channel 667 would be a good match to 1333 FSB. My old LGA775 P4 800 FSB used dual DDR400 - I think it's actually referred to as "quad pumped"

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea the FSB is quad data rate...

[@wojciechszymanowski]

Moded Xeons with speeds over 3Ghz and 12mb cache, would handle those Games easy. Witcher 3 Also works fine.