50 Population Forest Nothing.... 256x Mod!

We've done 25 Population Nomad... so why not 50 Population Forest Nothing?? Only this time we have the 256x mod, so all researches can be stacked! The viewers on the stream voted for this nonsense and it was actually quite entertaining. Much of this game I spent answering questions, as well as laughing at the ridiculousness of everything. I hope KZbin enjoys it as well!
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[@netrolancer1061]

The Elephants were the highlight of the game.

[@julianadeau4090]

I could hear the Benny Hill theme song playing in my head as I watched those dumbos zip around the map... completely comical! XD

[@theshahrazad2686]

Yeah, I haven't played this game in so long but monk + block print would be nice xD though the gold may be hard

[@Bloodlyshiva]

Just like AOE1. 50 pop cap, elephants as the end-game....

[@RazorWinter]

I mean, purple was the most dangerous to yellow. He could just wait for the 1 year and turbo villager the monument

[@malcolmateel]

I was The_Malcman. Spawning next to Kyrokies, I felt like I was doing really well until I saw his sea of villagers as his castles rained death upon me from vast distances away. Feelsbadman

[@clonator5097]

gg's man

[@kyriokes]

I'm sorry bro, was really intense from my perspective, im sure u will have better spawn next time.

[@malcolmateel]

@@kyriokes haha all good, just happy I got in! It's ironic because I planned to get crenelations with teutons to do a very similar castle strat, you just executed like a 1000 times better, ggs!

[@Mebbwebb]

It was the end of times.

[@mr2octavio]

@@kyriokes Bien ahi con la partida ameo

[@yewcraynian7915]

"If you ever have a villager glitch out or go idle just delete it. Send the other villagers a message." - Overlord T90, 2020

[@laynelane9080]

sorry to be off topic but does someone know of a method to get back into an Instagram account..? I was dumb forgot my password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me.

[@vivaanhector8597]

@Layne Lane instablaster :)

[@ToothlessGrisu]

48:42 T90: His huskarls are pretty speedy. Random villager: Hold my beer.

[@temkin9298]

Huskarl trying to woo a girl: See me run like lightning Villager: Hahaha. NO, you snail.

[@malenkas3]

Marvel alt universe where EVERYONE is The Flash

[@LilAlfiq]

57:08 At tech values beyond Planck-upgrade, Schrodinger's villagers in uncertain superposition when not on-screen for any player.

[@temkin9298]

;D

[@ekehernandez]

"A litle coke's ok" - T90Official

[@DaddyMouse]

Me: I'm about to go to bed T90 Uploads Me: I guess I'm staying awake

[@conde.nao.com.d]

Purple's quantum villagers: their momentum can't be measured simultaneously to their position.

[@temkin9298]

They can exist in 3 positions at the same time.

[@yesyes9698]

yes

[@JZ909]

Daniel: WTF is this? Mith: It's my elephant Me: HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[@sarcobarco9562]

i think you said you read comments, and i just wanted to say that one of my friends sent me a clip of a starcraft two tournament, and because of that ONE clip, the Hidden Cup 2 finals showed up in my recommended. I'd never watched AOE2 content (though i enjoyed playing it with my brothers and sister years ago) and saw the four hour time, and just thought "yeah i could waste four hours on this" and now I'm constantly watching your content. It's awesome, keep up the good work :D

[@Urrarg]

"Idk you're the pro!" I laughed so hard because you can almost hear the panic from both of them in that exchange. In Daniel's defense, he's a pro AoE2 player but this map + 256x mod is honestly a completely different game.

[@alejandrogarcia9637]

Nobody: War Elephant: I am speed.

[@colinsellers8095]

Purple should have just focused on Sappers and Loom and forgot about elephants... the vills were so fast the arrows can't hit them when moving. If he got Sappers a couple of times the castles will melt. When played right I think Persians are the strongest 256 tech forest nothing civ. Because of the bonus 50 food you can start building 2 vills (total of 5) and still have enough food to only need 2 farms to go feudal ((175*2)+(250-100)=500) everyone else needs 3 farms meaning you can be up to feudal fastest. Faster Feudal means you can sell wood for the best price and your TC becomes faster. In Feudal all you need is Villagers, Double-bit Axe and Wheelbarrow (fast TC helps with this a ton). Eventually you no longer need Axe tech and can focus on going up to Castle Age. Keep building Vills/TCs and getting Handcart until you max out pop and your vills are dangerously close to bugging out from being too fast. Once you are pop capped go Imp get Guilds and start focusing on getting Loom and Sappers. Then just kill everyone. No need for the Spanish tech your vills will be super hard to kill and melt all buildings in seconds. No need to waste Res and space on Blacksmith or Military this is much more effective.

[@pizza-for-mountains]

but that's boring

[@787fabi]

@@pizza-for-mountains amen

[@retloclive9118]

This one was kinda boring. Yellow was like a level 100 playing against noobs.

[@TheSorcerer1]

Yeah, it was extremely scummy in my opinion. It's like draining the fun out of the game

[@arthurlouiskarl]

hey t90, some ideas to broaden your content: 1) team community games: 2v2v2v2, some crazy games with 3v3v2 (team with only 2 players would consist of higher rated players). 2) games with "all visible" turned on. This would be fun (in theory) 3) 1v1v1 games.

[@danielodette6013]

Rewatching this game, got to the part where we were discussing not-made nothing maps. Hear me out - sheep nothing

[@DuckieMcduck]

That one was made before, check it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaWlYaCBYrt4e80

[@oneoranota]

What about elephants nothing ?

[@StxnceUK]

Nobody: T90: 'A lITtLe CoKe Is Ok'

[@kasper7203]

Small tree mod looks bad.. Props to those who loyally play without it!

[@inkadinka9517]

Without getting into its' obvious advantages strategically, I think it makes the game look much cleaner and less crowded. Tree heavy maps, especially forest nothing, are claustrophobia-inducing. Trees don't grow in crowded, impenetrable walls like that, doesn't really look right to me.

[@kasper7203]

@@inkadinka9517 no worries Mister Forest. Every likes their trees in different sizes. I prefer the trees big but have no problem with those who like them small.

[@thundersoul6795]

Iunno, big trees are bugging me because me brain grown on the likes of Cossacks and SupCom simply can't accept that spaces in which two elephants could fit are impassable. Gigantic hitboxes are just not a good solution for the problem of spacing.

[@marcioaso]

Just to remind you that if you are getting claustrophobia, is not for playing AoE...

[@PressA2Die]

It's an advantage, technically small trees is cheating unless all agree to use it.

[@LetoZeth]

Kyriokes trained every single day of his life, for this moment.

[@oneoranota]

Born without power, he trained every day and became a god.

[@lorenzp5823]

This fkn elephant .... I was drinking when this thicc speed boii startet to run around ...

[@schuhey7021]

Noob_nothing is right, forest nothing is a life style, the best one.

[@FortuneTellher]

For those who didn't catch chat saying this: When you get too much of certain techs like attack speed, efficiency, and hp upgrades, the values reach a maximum then overflow into negative values, causing the game to bug out. As far as I can tell, the only units that can't be broken while being insanely upgraded are Cavalry and Infantry. Elite Battle Elephants and Mayan Elite Eagles both sound insanely good. I wanna see monks on 256x tech, tbh, but I have a feeling they aren't good because their techs might be broken.

[@ownphantomandtoy]

T90 I'd love to help you play age of mythology but I only have the disk version and my pc won't let me play online :/ 💙💙💙

[@grondhero]

I'm going to be in the minority, possibly the lone voice of dissent. I really don't like the 256x Mod, especially on Forest Nothing. It generally winds up with about half the people struggling and one person steamrolling everyone else. Other than this, I pretty much always enjoy T90's Twitch streams. I mean, aside from those "raids" into other streamers that ended up being T90 leaving us in the chat room. :P

[@zenhaelcero8481]

Yeah, 256x ends up being pretty formulaic. Unfortunately, as long as the stream likes it, T90 is gonna keep doing it.

[@DaddyMouse]

@@zenhaelcero8481 to add a note of positivity here, 256x forest nothing games usually do not last as long as normal forest nothing, which means that we have a nice T90 podcast for about 30 minutes, then we have 10-20 minutes of flashy action nonsense and then it's over. There is less possibility for the game to become a stalemate.

[@kmonster9719]

@grondhero 256x mod was fun at first on non Forest Nothing maps when a meta had not formed. But now those who know what works get ahead and steamroll everybody else. Its even worse on forest nothing because the player who starts getting ahead can't really be ganged up on or raided. As a result they can just get stronger unimpeded and then sweep aside there opponent who cant do anything. On normal maps 256x might work if the cost of techs would increase every time so you cant just spam a single tech and diversifying is a potential option. On forest nothing... it just isn't ever going to work :/

[@grondhero]

@@kmonster9719 My thoughts exactly. Once a meta is discovered, that one person dominates and it's just not fun. If there were another way to go about it, it might be entertaining, again.

[@nlb137]

Maybe they should run something between the original 3x mod and the 256x mod, something round 10x; enough for upgrades to start to add up to something interesting, but not enough to break things in half. It would also make some civs better for their unique tech; a lot of them give a worse ROI than a blacksmith or other generic tech and aren't worht it in 256, but in a game where you could research all available copies of fletching, say, stacking even more range via britons unique tech could be interesting

[@USAltefore]

Ever since the first time I saw a video featuring the 256x Tech mod, I've wanted to see a player abuse Fletching + Town Watch. Not only did this game provide that, but it also showcased Mithridates's Speed Force villages, and later an elephant that could teleport behind his foes. Outstanding!

[@dragovern]

Tbh it isn't boring just because T90 comments.

[@autumnleaf5050]

Yes his voice is perfect for caster

[@mr.worldwide4299]

“Guys look at his stone count....420......He's stoned...” Me after 5 minutes : *bursts into laughter*

[@eljefe4258]

I see T90, I click

[@T90Official]

I see El Jefe, I comment.

[@DaddyMouse]

@@T90Official Comment but no heart? "YOU NO LOVE ME?"

[@freedomofspeech2867]

F's in the chat for purples elephants boys. May they zoom in heaven. RIP.

[@imrekalman9044]

1:00:10 I started to choke on laughter! :D That's one fast boi!!!

[@noemiej.marquis732]

"Look at his stone count... 420, he's stoned, guys !"

[@wishcraft4u2]

New meta: you play the game with weird settings that have OP builds that dont work on standard FN and then you watch as the noobs do the wrong build in your standard FN game.

[@otten5666]

I can see the appeal in Forest Nothing now and then but the 256x mod is just straight unenjoyable.

[@goShinigami]

So I am watching like one T90 video per month, some are older, sometimes the new ones. So very small sample size BUT STILL there is TheViper hate and some sort of jab at him in every video I watch. This is rediculous. You need to deal with your emotions man. All these flavors and you chose to be salty

[@crylune]

you sure it's hate and not just... jokes or fake beef? lmao

[@ovrsurge4689]

I made my own custom type of forest nothing back when I was a kid. I think this predates minecraft as well. I would play 1v1 against an ai on a tiny map which I filled completely with trees. Unfortunately the AI would just resign after a while and the game lagged on the laptop I played on which itself was already really old. My solution was to build a river down the middle of the map and have a tiny 1 wide path leading from the ai's base to the river. This gave the AI something to do and helped prevent it from giving up. Fun times.

[@DaddyMouse]

That might or might not be the first instance of forest nothing ever played o.o

[@ovrsurge4689]

@@DaddyMouse yeah this was definitely pre 2009. I was watching futurama episodes on this laptop. Also the river reduced the lag i was getting so as a kid I assumed it was all the trees. I also remember playing a flash game called dogfight or something and the game ran "smoothly" but really slow. So when I played on another computer it was just too fast for me. Those were the days of onemorelevel.com lol

[@DaddyMouse]

@@ovrsurge4689 damn, the memeories man Stop you're making me feel old lol

[@n8r8ts41]

Mith should've set a million waypoints for his vils in a tiny circle around the wonder, no one could track and hit them and if he set enough waypoints to take up the 187 years he'd win right?

[@MedievalSolutions]

In theory yes, in practice yellow had enough castles to just have a constant rain of arrows around the monument.

[@n8r8ts41]

@@MedievalSolutions you're right on that one, I just wonder if he'd be able to see if all his units were lost at the monument and it was no linger in yellows possession? I cannot recall if you lose sight of the monument in that case

[@Dankey_King]

T90 please do a Forest Nothing world record attempt during your 69hr stream

[@asdergold1]

A part of the survey pretty much told me one thing: "Oh, you not part of Microsoft? Fuck off!!!" Essentially that, and blocked me from doing anything.

[@joka619]

the civs on the right of the monument were closer to begin with, an unfair advantage to begin with. i would've gone huns, to avoid using space to make houses perhaps, and save on time and get villagers asap. goths is a good shout with that extra 10.

[@ninjameria7]

now i get why Cersei wanted the elephants so badly :o

[@skypausebgp2615]

WOW!!! This is hilarious. Great stuff! Next cup “Nothing Cup” 😉🤣

[@DaddyMouse]

And have Noob_Nothing as co-caster

[@Dave_Ebert]

Yes please

[@komasdfg]

still yet to see a 256x having a 1-to-1 equal fight, the moment one starting rolling, the game seems over.

[@Reggie2000]

16:18 What if a villager glitched out..... and became sentient, and was able to start a digital family, and build a true intelligent AI community in your game, where to them it was real, and those farms and houses were real, and the other players civs were real invading hostile enemy's, and you were basically a god to them when you created new farms and villager's. 😨!!!!! *Mind blown!

[@RolfReibach]

since arrows can miss. isn't it best to go really fast melee units? like inca vills with blacksmith upgrades, loom, Wheelbarrow and sappers? seems unbeatable and cheep

[@MedievalSolutions]

I'd play even the most grueling 20hr game if I were to win a million dollars.

[@ajthesavage214]

I see AOE 256x I click...

[@ApocalipsisEnSabah]

I uploaded at voovlby a 256x mod with gathering food speed increased from farm upgrades, gives more options for ridiculous strats

[@Rohkiani311006]

After the 256x Forest Nothing map clear world record, a lot of people know to avoid using farms. Food was above 500 to buy, more than stone. So it's a lot easier to afford a bunch of monk techs that only cost gold than blacksmith upgrades that cost food. Someone please make a bunch of monks with 100x Block Printing, get lots of Looms and Sappers for villagers, and convert villagers from across the map to use to destroy their origin civ's town. Your weakness is that monks take a long time to train and you die if your base is reached (unless your super villagers can pull off a win by themselves), but if you have 20 monasteries all researching Block Printing, you should be able to strike first. This takes advantage of Spies only costing 200 gold.

[@erica9593]

the 420 stone joke made this video

[@legendaryoutcast4440]

I love the 256 games. It's like some sort of "make your own cheat" / custom cheat mode, but still requires some game knowledge and some skill. 11

[@sunboi4488]

It's a little late but you don't need to be "good" at math to be an architect...

[@FourEyesGod]

YESSS FAST BOOOOII. I WAS STARTING TO GET ASLEEP THEEN THE ELEPHANT SAVE IT ALL!!!

[@sik3xploit]

I used to have AoE2 when I was a kid and it was pretty much my exposure to what video games were. When I saw it available on Steam the nostalgia had me by the balls and I couldn't help but get it again.

[@sweetestperfection90]

9:57 It would be clutch to chop around certain trees on FN to make them into stragglers, then palisade so you get rid of more trees faster. Would require a load of micro though!

[@vegannegan9652]

2:24 Wtf is this TC hp?? 11

[@quangduybui2181]

Vietnamese needs some eco boost early game, or maybe a good economic Unique tech in Castle Age and push Chartras to Imp.

[@josiahgibson6373]

Woohoo! I suggested this awhile ago with 25 pop limit. Happy to see that someone listened, or at least had the same idea.

[@bappos_on_cracko4394]

This is the content I am subscribed for

[@KommandantDahl]

T90, any thoughts on a version of the 256x mod that makes an exception for range mods (and maybe some other things)? These games seem to come down to who gets the most range upgrades first and just deleting kings with wooden cruise missiles.

[@bigsad6794]

9:54 - You do have the option of zooming in using the "Display Settings" function in Windows 10 to get a closer view of things, the "Scale and Layout" section contains a setting, "Change the size of text, apps, and other items" and you can crank that thing from the default 100% to 200% in 25% increments. I play on a 1920x1080 23" monitor and use 125% zoom to help avoid fat-finger selecting more villagers than I should in tense situations. Works flawlessly.

[@LebronJahumes]

What fat finger?

[@rituchandra6325]

aoe2 > aoe3 plz always stick to aoe2 only

[@kapitanbeuteltier5889]

NEVER. Why is there no love for my favourite RTS? :(

[@TheDidgerideuces]

Look, I think aoe2 is better of the two, but wouldn't it be cool to see at least a couple community games to see if it's fun with t90 commentary?

[@crylune]

you aoe 2 elitists should unexist

[@mollekake]

I mean, it's not really that fun that someone steamrolls. Would be more fun to see more diversity. That elephant was the highlight

[@kenc00l]

Okay, I am at 57 min right now, and dude! That elephant man! Really made my day! Maybe my whole week! I mean purple was putting all into just one elephant and it looked so dumb but that turns out to be super amazing.

[@Thk10188965]

Normal Map Nothing

[@MaksymCzech]

Is there palisade nothing?

[@lorenzopauli123]

Also, thanks for the 1:01:07 joke, It was a cherry on the cake, ha!

[@iainmaclean4872]

"he can shoot everything!" *if he walks there first lol

[@DaddyMouse]

NExt: Kyriokes vs Tatoh!

[@jekanyika]

Definitely

[@kyriokes]

already challenge him w8 for answer

[@cano3391]

1:07:10 he said ''get ready'' ^hazır ol^

[@mozarteanchaos]

absolutely LOST it when the Immortal Elephant came in and got the monument. holy shit. pog

[@mozarteanchaos]

i think when speedy elephants are involved interference is justified

[@mozarteanchaos]

if only yellow's range wasn't so broken. an army of light-speed elephants could've been so much fun

[@satyakisil4289]

1:00:34 Does Celts unique tech buff BBT in full tech tree?

[@jy77411]

I'm laughing so hard for the damn speedy elephant lol

[@fingusa]

Another Forest Nothing game that was decided in the first ten minutes cause one of the players does nothing but play Forest Nothing and he just decimates everyone else. Boring.

[@Yusenugi]

Lol, they all look like Shinobi from hidden leaf village XD

[@ignacionadeo3521]

With how many times we've seen TaToH break the game by rushing to feudal age, you'd have thought someone would rush Feudal for upgrades, especially in 50 pop 256...

[@DraconiusDragora]

The way to deal with Yellow, you need siege damage units, which stack with Infantry units. That can rush into the castles and destroy them. Since if you stack extra siege damage, buildings will die quickly. And if memory serves, Woad Raiders gets bonus damage against Buildings.

[@sheamardis7409]

I keep waiting for someone to go ethiopians and do torsion engines on x250 tech mod.

[@thegeneralissimo470]

Once it hits about the 25 minute mark, it's just "tish-tish....tish-tish....tish-tish......"

[@PJOZeus]

About the childhood ambitions - Did you like to build buildings or design them, because one is an architect, and one is a.. B U I L D E R Most people are offput because its quite obviously not promoted as glamorous work but it does pay well and I'd even say it's relatively quick scaling for very little intellectual capability, like you dont have to design these masterpieces, you just have to be fit and be able to count Its funny how architect is promoted as the good one because of classism, but it's really just not, it's just blue collar vs white and maybe you came up in a background that heavily pressured white collar as if there can be no progression of life from blue

[@gumhoy5054]

Ban Chinese for Forest Nothing x256 techs? Cheaper Tech Bonus breaks x256. The resource downside doesn't mean anything on Forest Nothing. The Chinese Town Center counts as 2 additional houses for free and their farms don't have to be reseeded as often before the mill tech spam starts coming through. WIth the bonus vills and population space, this means you can get started as fast as possible (most villagers to chop wood at start to make space.) Probably very solid in this setting because of their all around bonuses.

[@alexkimpton8540]

They released a new age of mythlogy retold but yo actully know what things are

[@bladactania]

We keep seeing these Forest nothing games and EVERY time I wonder why the hell no one has fixed the start locations. the MASSIVE gap between red and black while yellow and green are crushed together and to their outsides. Meanwhile Blue is in the middle of a vast ocean of forest. Please fix the damn map!

[@Kinjry]

I don't play this game, I probably never will. But I enjoy watching it to the point I understand certain metas and strategies and terminologies. T90 and SpiritOfTheLaw, made me a fan of a game I don't even play. And now I look forward to these t90 vids, and T90s commentary. Also, I'm from the far north man, have you ever had fresh river salmon? It's the absolute best, puts that other stuff to shame.

[@demiserofd]

What if Jags got +1 attack per kill? They'd need to kill weak units first, but would gradually become really powerful.

[@Cipher71]

The Obsidian Arrows tech should have been given to the Saracens. It would at least make their team bonus useful for the Saracens, even if it would stay useless for everyone else. Alternatively just give the Saracens a non-suck team bonus.

[@Kevin-wx7wu]

My elephant is fast

[@adamdelange852]

idk why I'm watching this when I just finished it on the VOD on twitch. Check out T90's stream! where I spend too much time: www.twitch.tv/t90official

[@Bobertstone]

Is very close to my beloved 75 pop FN. T90Love

[@PackaGame]

If i was pink I would just have patrolled all my vills back and forth across the map and force a tie. Yellow try harding way too much, kinda boring...

[@jesusrubiomaldonado27]

Watching mid game was really stressing me a lot, for yellow didnt research thumb ring for LMG ICBM Chu Ko Nu X.X

[@leonhard6327]

28:05 what the hell, when did I subscribe. That's way to long ago

[@FuelDropforthewin]

Malay would be nasty in this circumstance. Karambits are only half a pop each, and if you're on top of your upgrades then their relative weakness becomes progressively lower as the game goes on.

[@AB-pj7mc]

Heh Celts Mangonels+Siege Engineers o.o Should work like a Katyusha, no? >.< Gotta love that Zoomyphant tho.

[@etherraichu]

Someone having a bad week or being away for a while doesn't really mean much. Im a competitive Pokemon player and will do dozens of battles a day... But lately I just havent been in the mood. So when I try, I don't do as well. Sooner or later ill jump back into it eagerly, but for now I'm just doing some other things ive wanted to

[@DoofusMonkey]

what the fuck is a competitive pokemon player?

[@TM-wm7om]

The only things better in AoE2 is the existence of tiles and the selection of civs but there weren't many of them exploring. However, there are things that are better in AoE3.

[@AR-hk8qt]

Initially it was enjoyable until everything of yellow got speedy and empowered super Range.. That edition is shit!..

[@asktheraccoon]

Little baby stark loved her father 3000 but your viewers love you less than 3. Not that it is a competition but you’re way behind man.

[@xMarble]

The farmers of Purple freeze up because the farms don't produce at the same speed as the farmer collects it. The farm actually has 0 food available at times with this collection rate.

[@MrLiveWest]

This video is labeled as music so I can't watch this on my phone while doing other stuff 🥲 I guess I'll watch another time

[@sundyking1172]

I wanna see monk nothing. All players have the same amount of monks filling up the map and nothing else. Monks stay converted and dont die.