50 Problems With The Mormon Church

[@TheMormonInformant]

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[@glenturney4750]

joseph smith was a lying 14 year old puritan.

[@sunriseboy4837]

I'm not a Mormon. But your 'opinions' are very inaccurate, and very precious. This crapola is produced from a 'religious' point of view, and only follows the woke 'scientific evidence'.

[@MsJenniferwilson]

there is no missing link. all FRAUDS. just like racist joseph smith and his racist mason buddies, racist darwin was also a high level freemason and father of the eugenics movement. DNA proves his theory FALSE.

[@dleoburns]

Miss J: “There is no missing link. All FRAUDS.” What about the Neanderthal? “Neanderthals are hominids in the genus Homo, humans, and generally classified as a distinct species, H. neanderthalensis, although sometimes as a subspecies of modern human as Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. This would necessitate the classification of modern humans as H. sapiens sapiens.[132]” [Wikipedia/Neanderthal/Classification] “Interbreeding between archaic and modern humans occurred during the Middle Paleolithic and early Upper Paleolithic. The interbreeding happened in several independent events that included Neanderthals and Denisovans, as well as several unidentified hominins.[2] Neanderthal-derived DNA has been found in the genomes of most or possibly all contemporary populations, varying noticeably by region. It accounts for 1-4% of modern genomes for people outside Sub-Saharan Africa, although estimates vary, and either none or possibly up to 0.3% - according to recent research[3] - for those in Africa. It is highest in East Asians, intermediate in Europeans, and lower in Southeast Asians.[4] According to some research, it is also lower in Melanesians and Polynesians compared to both East Asians and Europeans.[4] However, other research finds higher Neanderthal admixture in Melanesians, as well as in Native Americans, than in Europeans (though not higher than in East Asians).[5] In December 2023, scientists reported that genes inherited by modern humans from Neanderthals and Denisovans may biologically influence the daily routine of modern humans.[8]” [Wikipedia/Interbreeding between archaic and modern humans/Introduction] “just like racist Joseph Smith and his racist Mason buddies, racist Darwin was also a high-level freemason and father of the eugenics movement. DNA proves his theory is FALSE.” Miss J are you a Freemason? I am not and never have been a Freemason. So, how can we determine whether Freemasons are racist?

[@vq9683]

Be kind and don’t make jokes at the expense of Mormons, ya’ll. You have no idea how traumatic it is to go through losing your faith and discovering the truth. It is literally like being told you’ve been plugged into the matrix this entire time. Try to imagine that for a second, like really imagine it. That’s the closest thing you could imagine to what this is like. Some of us become suicidal, and all of us take years to process the trauma. Be kind.

[@wildlyshy9885]

I am currently going through a major shift of truth. Discovering that what you believed as truth since birth, is in fact false... has caused extreme dissociation for me. Coming to terms with the fact that my entire childhood and religious views are corrupt and lies is exactly like waking up in the matrix. I’m glad I found out though. I don’t regret choosing truth.

[@farpo_]

I mean... was it really a surprise?

[@MF-fg3lj]

it will be okay....you are never alone

[@carolynsilvers9999]

I understand. I was raised strict Evangelical fundimentalist. It ripped my core out when i finally faced the truth. Its like the stages of grief, deniall, anger, depression and all the other... But you do make it through and its empowering to finally embrace the beliefs that you believe because you believe them and not because you've been indoctrinated to believe them. 💓

[@jordant889]

Thank you for this. I've made jokes about various religions in the past, but you're absolutely right. Some people are greatly pressured and decieved, so it's important to remember their humanity, while also calling out the offenses and hypocrisy of those at fault. Thank you

[@davidkitterman3952]

I can’t imagine how hard it is to leave especially when you have family and friends that are Mormon

[@ezrabanksthethird]

It’s a harrowing experience i can tell you that.

[@randinboise]

BUT SO WORTH IT!

[@SlyPearTree]

I'm very glad I was not born in a religion and/or family that would treat me different for leaving that religion. I became an atheist in my 20's about 35 years ago and it never made a difference with how I interact with my friends and family.

[@Villosa64]

They will all shun and will start to part with you, a religion so much about close-knit families for eternities is the same religion that breaks up many families

[@dleoburns]

SlyPearTree: “I became an atheist in my 20s about 35 years ago and it never made a difference with how I interact with my friends and family.” “Agnosticism is the view or belief that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable.[1][2][3] Another definition provided is the view that "human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist."[2] [Wikipedia/Agnosticism/Introduction] So, you are the one human being capable of determining that God doesn’t exist? How was that conclusion made?

[@katkathoss]

If a religion is true, the truth shouldn't be what destroys it.

[@katkathoss]

Oh and there's Shakespearean quotes in the Book of Mormon

[@_JellyDonut_]

Follower of Christ Ok fine, let's focus on Joseph Smith's sex life. Does it bother you at all that he slept with so many women? I mean LDS members can't so much as have a cup of coffee but the prophet gets to sleep around like an NBA player? Seems fishy, please tell me where I'm wrong.

[@_JellyDonut_]

Follower of Christ So you don't believe he slept with other women but if he did it wouldn't bother you because you don't judge others. Do I have that right?

[@katkathoss]

Why are you even on this video? Shouldn't you be using your time more wisely "follower of christ" ;)

[@katkathoss]

Lol follower of christ blocked me

[@GeorgeEugeneBarrett]

I understand being born into a religion and not questioning dogma, but I never understood how Smith convinced so many people to leave their already established faith into something radically different.

[@justgween7573]

Look up the Second Great Awakening, American Exceptionalism in the 1800s, and Manifest Destiny. TL,DR; Mormonism supported mainstream/popular politics, philosophy, and culture of 1800s America. Mormonism's doctrinal roots and the social sphere of the United States during Smith's era are nearly inseparable; it's a very "American made" religion, in a manner of speaking. The beliefs taught by the church would have been agreeable and sensible to some of the people of that time.

[@alfredoalcantar8691]

🎼 dum dum dum dum dummy 🎶

[@MrSuperhenry101]

This is what I think about all the time when I think about the Latin American converts. I don’t understand how teenage boys (the missionaries) can go to Brazil or Argentina and successfully convert Latinos to Mormonism today. Catholicism has such a deep, cultural hold on us Latinos. Don’t understand how teenage missionaries who barely speak Spanish pull them away from their fathers’ faith.

[@silvianmarley7928]

Jesus h christ..so thats what u arrived at lol Jesus christ lol I'd be more worried about how he got so many married women to marry him... And all your worried about is people leaving faith 😂😂😂

[@caramelkisses8396]

Christians are the easiest converts! I always say mainly because a lot don't truly study and have the same discipline as other religions and also for the lack of knowledge of other religions. So it's easy to sell someone a really good story wien they don't honestly know what they believe in.

[@carliechiriboga2186]

I talked to an ex-Mormon one time and she talked about how hard it was to leave the church. And how hard the emotional trauma is. Something she said that really stuck out to me was that she’s happier as an ex-morning then she ever could’ve been in LDS. I doubt anyone will even read this comment but if you do by chance and you are questioning LDS, you aren’t alone and I send you love, and strength❤️

[@tinamincheski2195]

No matter what church you are a part of....question everything. You are a unique creation , and will understand what is true in your own way. Guidance is a good thing...but you must come to understanding through your own revelations.

[@johnmarquardt1991]

Cults can destroy people.

[@LeGeND-12]

I’m reading this and was also raised Mormon. My family will basically mourn me as dead when I admit I have no plans to ever go back or raise my children that way. But I am happier than ever and feel more connected to God than any point in time ever.

[@pureblood8712]

I left the church 6 years ago and at times I think about going back because I do miss a lot of things about the church , I've got great memories of dance festivals, road shows, picking oranges for the church, pioneer day parades but church was way different back in the 60s& 70s they started changing in the 80s or I just got smarter and I'm kind of hard headed and fought a lot of their beliefs, I just couldn't agree with most of it and boy it upset mom, after mom passed I turned my back and yes it is hard but I found a good southern Baptist church that I really enjoy, I haven't joined yet but when I finally commit I would like to get rebaptized because after learning the whole truth I don't feel like my LDS baptism is a true.

[@LeGeND-12]

@@pureblood8712 same here- 90s kid. My whole family has yet to hear my reasons for it . Also a pure blood. 😁

[@damonharris7659]

I'm a Mormom and after seeing this i have alot of questions to ask and dont know how to feel about being a Mormom .wow all i can say

[@nnebeel]

You are not alone. The links shared here will all be great places to start. I highly recommend taking it slowly. Tackle each new bit of information individually. Research it. Don't let yourself feel snowballed if you can help it. There is a very real danger of becoming overwhelmed during your research. 50 problems is just scratching the surface, and each point has a whole world of information and stories behind it. Mormon Stories is a great place for a thoughtful dialogue (listen to a mixture of both old and new episodes). The r/mormon and r/exmormon subreddits are also extremely helpful. There is a community of questioning/doubting/former Mormons more than 100,000 strong there. They won't mock you or judge you. I've been where you are today, and so have many others.

[@andreadetata4801]

Damon Harris; I really hope you realize that the Mormon religion is not true and that you will truly God one of these days. Here's a thought for you; since mainstream Mormons abandon polygamy, you don't even believe in your own prophets teachings! What does that tell you???? Get out while you can...

[@kylechristensen3290]

Former Mormon myself and i say....RUN MAN!!!!!!!!

[@gabezierenberg7663]

Damon I am a mormon to. The church is true.

[@radiantlight2361]

Come out from among them

[@aluci9395]

I was born into the church and I was ready to devote my life to it. I’ve really been questioning a lot about it lately, however. A lot of things didn’t make sense to me. Church leaders always encourage us to study the church to answer our questions, but they specifically teach that we should only look for answers through the church. Now I see why they don’t want us looking outside of the church mediums. Watching this video was a rude awakening. I’m definitely sad that everything I’ve been taught and had believed completely is false and it’s gonna take a while to let that really sink in, but I’m done with the church. Once I leave my parent’s place (hopefully when I turn 18) I’m leaving for good.

[@davidnewhart2533]

@@arthurhunt642 There's a whole bunch of evidence for God.

[@moirahurley2862]

@@arthurhunt642 I feel sorry for you..

[@elliefuller3667]

@@arthurhunt642 Eh, I’m agnostic but if religion is what they still want, they should go for it. Find one that suits them, but use that religion to promote love and unity, don’t use it against people

[@elliefuller3667]

@@TATERPOO With all due respect buddy, fuck off. I’ve had enough people telling me to search for Jesus. I will live the best life I possibly can right now, being a good person with morals and enjoying my time with my loved ones, and if there’s an afterlife, living as a good person here should be enough to get me there. But I’m not gonna concern myself too much with the future. I would rather ensure I enjoy the present.

[@pikewerfer]

@@davidnewhart2533 please look up evidence in the dictionary.

[@tortillawhisperer5811]

The worse part is that Mormons are loving and kind. We were all raised to to do good and all we want is to be good but it’s so cruel to find you’re completely wrong. The leaders abuse our good nature and kindness. When everything you know, your family, friends, ideas, time, and money is all centered around the church, it is so hard to question anything. When you’ve invested your whole life to lie, sometimes it’s easier to pretend it’s the truth

[@rarerides]

Incredibly sad and accurate.

[@jimbomanzano4785]

YOU SAID, “The worse part is that Latter-day Saints are loving and kind.” I say what is wrong with being loving and kind? What could possibly be wrong with loving Jesus Christ and doing what he taught?…… Love your neighbor as yourself, love one another, teach one another, serve one another, forgive one another, let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works, etc? “We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.”(Articles of Faith No. 13). YOU ALSO SAID, “The leaders abuse our good nature and kindness.” (Are you claiming to be a member in good standing?) In what way do the leaders abuse our good nature and kindness? We gladly pay tithing because it is God’s way of blessing his children and advancing the mission of his church to preach the restored gospel, to perfect the saints, and to build temples for sacred ordinances. We also love following the teachings of our living prophet and the Apostles for they conform with the teachings of Jesus Christ. YOU SAID, “It’s hard to question anything.” Our local bishops and stake presidents are well informed as to church administration and doctrines; members can ask them any questions anytime. (The local leaders and all the tens of thousands of workers in the global church serve freely without compensation. The same is true for 53,000 full-time missionaries serving in 160 countries and territories around the globe.) YOU SAID, “When you’ve invested your whole life to a lie, sometimes it’s easier to pretend it’s the truth.” I have invested 46 years of my life with my wife and children in the church. We were greatly blessed by living the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. We know it to be true. There are answers to all the purported evidences and accusations against the Church. It has always been the war between good and evil. We know where we stand. Whose side are on? We know “there must be an opposition in all things”(2Nephi 2:11). We also know that “we must be tried in all things” that we may be prepared to receive the glory that the Lord has prepared for us” (D&C 136:31). There is no pretending for us - we know the church is true. Anything which inviteth to do good is of God and anything which inviteth to do evil is of the devil. YOU SAID that the members of our church are loving and kind. That we are! We are staying put in our church. How about you? What have you got?

[@VinnyMaz]

The thing is they aren’t loving and kind it’s a fake face they put on they are actually prejudice racist and liars and take advantage of earth other and people ..

[@kalensilva5814]

mathew 19:29 And everyone who has given up houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or property, for my sake, will receive a hundred times as much in return and will inherit eternal life.

[@jimbomanzano4785]

@@kalensilva5814 I am wondering why you quoted Matthew 19:29. Are you suggesting that true Christians should follow it in their lives? Will you follow it?

[@apothe6]

As a non religious person, I'm stunned at how many Mormons watch this video and are blown away. Good on you guys, you can do it

[@ashtonthomas3688]

I,know for a fact Joseph was not polygamous

[@jokey2356]

@@ashtonthomas3688 how do you know

[@davidn.211]

@@ashtonthomas3688 Present your proof.

[@DarrenRockwell]

@@ashtonthomas3688 proof? Im all ears

[@gustercc]

@@ashtonthomas3688 where did you go, bro???

[@quinnrollen]

Goes to show: People will believe virtually anything. If Smith were alive today he'd be either a televangelist or a politician.

[@jasonleroywharton]

Nah, if Smith were alive today he would be trying to clean up the mess they have turned his Church into.

[@jasonleroywharton]

@@sahadhassan4764 The Bible only really addresses one world. Joseph Smith, Jr., addresses cycles of worlds and of eternity. He got his information from having opened up the book sealed with seven seals that teaches the end from the beginning and how one world flows to another world. Each world has its own Elohim that is composed from the previous worlds Savior, who becomes the Father, and those who become one with him as joint heirs with him. The Bible actually teaches this too, but people don't know how to find and interpret the master blueprint of creation.

[@jasonleroywharton]

@@sahadhassan4764 Smith knows the truth about everything pertaining to God. He is the 3rd member of the Godhead and the father of the new world.

[@jasonleroywharton]

@@sahadhassan4764 Why, so you can go back to being lazy and not have to think about much? Of course I am serious. In time you will hear more about me.

[@jasonleroywharton]

@@sahadhassan4764 You are in way over your head. I know precisely what I am talking about. And I know exactly what is at stake.

[@cantrell0817]

I was raised Mormon. I remember being 10 or 11 years old and asking honest, genuine questions and getting harsh reactions from adults. Pretty quickly, I began to realize many answers were insincere and superficially convenient. My doubts steadily grew until I was 19 and said "No way I'm serving a mission. I don't believe this stuff. How can I tell somebody to convert?". Never been back.

[@kbs1212]

billyman Same here. I was 10 and left at 22. I’m glad you had a good head on your shoulders. Critical thinkers are so quickly shut down. The more I wanted to sincerely learn, the more I was labeled as not having a testimony. “Pray until it’s true” 🙄

[@cantrell0817]

@@kbs1212 Ugh, I got the same advice. Keep praying. There's some good aspects to being Mormon but I just can't accept the blatant lies, manipulation and greed (tithing). Good luck to you. Sounds like we both broke through to the other side and have a healthier view of the church.

[@robinmcguire2663]

I also had simular issues! I was even taken to the bishop who discussed with me that my problem (i.e. the questions I asked & critical thinking about the runaround answers I was given that left me with even more questions) was due to my own failing: lack of faith. I WAS A CHILD and they berated me for my ability to be analytical and seek clarification of what didn't make sense to me! This is only one reason I left - I could go on for days with more but I won't. Most has already been said by many other comments. Peace to you all!

[@joshyyekonsire1]

I have a very similar experience. I truly wanted to believe it.... I mean who really truly wants to be a black sheep jack mormon apostate anyway. But I would have genuine logical questions and the answer would either be harsh or painfully vague like "its gods plan" or "pray about it" or "just worry about the basics, they are what really matter"

[@RMokros]

Well you will never make Celestial Being!

[@homerick8952]

Too bad all the Mormon channels blocked comments

[@fubbas_Imperium]

true

[@raymondsaint4156]

They know what would happen if they didn't.

[@TimLucasdesign]

I'm not a Mormon myself but I don't blame them for turning off comments. They don't want their materials to be a soundboard for hateful trolls.

[@lukebandy516]

Censoring free speech on a public forum means trying to hide something

[@ghostpoperhunjyn2769]

I’m confused why it’s a bad thing?

[@kparcparc4230]

Do you know the penalty for having TWO wives? Two mother-in-laws! (bada-bing!)

[@ptuffgong8504]

Oh the horror!!!!

[@robertallison107]

Depends on the personalities of the In-Laws.....

[@KonradZielinski]

When it comes to picking a second wife, marry your first wives sister, problem solved.

[@caleb8239]

How is having two mother-in-laws a problem? That's just two more potential dates for Friday night.

[@Paul-wq9fd]

You get excommunicated!

[@TheBrooklyndandy]

The fact that Dallin Oaks is quoted saying “It's wrong to criticize leaders of the church, even if the criticism is true” shows that if all these points are true and the religion is indeed based on falsehoods it’s true members won’t care because the fear of being wrong your whole life is greater than the quest for the truth. It’s called weakness. That’s why members that figure out the truth and leave the faith are so angry.

[@BeccasBracelets.j]

Ya

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Yep, I want my time and money back!

[@ashtonthomas3688]

What Dallin H. Oaks was trying to say that the prophet and church authorities are not perfect and is trying their best, so to not criticize them will encourage them to continue on.

[@FluffyArtiste20]

They’re literally God’s servants. That’s why they say you shouldn’t criticize them. Because it’s disrespectful to them and to God.

[@TheBrooklyndandy]

@@FluffyArtiste20 I’m sorry but you are text book definition of brain washed. The Mormon churches pressures women to have as many children as possible to grow numbers through indoctrination and mind control. None of these men were appointed by god. They chose among themselves for profit and funding personal agendas. They said “choose the right” and use fear tactics to keep people from digging and finding out the true. The real god doesn’t appoint people to represent him and intimidate people into submission to right checks and vote politically to protect ignorant views. He gave us all equality and built this world from love for all of us to have a chance at a happy existence. I honestly feel bad for people that are brainwashed by the church. Your religious views are wrong and it’s sad.

[@eliserose1460]

I'm only 17, but once I'm 18 I definitely plan on leaving the church and even possibly removing my records from the church if I have any trouble for leaving...

[@TheMormonInformant]

I wish you luck. If you need any help with the transition, don't hesitate to ask! :)

[@eliserose1460]

The Mormon Informant thank you! I have several family members who have removed their records so I'm lucky to have those people in my life

[@krispykookie7374]

Elise Rose I wish you luck and hope everything goes well

[@amadeusfuzz4320]

I'm 19 and just had my name removed. I wrote a letter, met with the stake president and gave it to him, and now my extended family doesnt want anything to do with me because i will infect the minds of my cousins with free thinking!

[@theatheist4519]

Myana Coffman sorry, everything in this video is absolutely true. I can point you to a video that covers all of this and more with proof and links to the citations

[@Evelyns_EQ]

I left the church a few months ago. I’m 13, I’m very grateful I left as early as I did. There’s so much emotional damage that has happened to me and I haven’t even been in it for very long. I’m very lucky that my mom is leaving the church too so I can talk to her and she is supportive. My dad isn’t supportive but I understand why. When I was in the church my mom said she left, and I cried for a long time. I’m so happy that I left

[@rubyparker6260]

I’m 18 and also just left recently. My family isn’t leaving the church but I was lucky enough for them to still be understanding and loving. And I agree, so much emotional damage that is hard to understand until you actually go through it

[@klopcodez]

Mormonism is no church do not make a mistake

[@pennylane9289]

Its LIBERATING!! I left a home, popular neighbors, my husband & so much more. Took my kids and ran & I never regret it and never looked back. Took me years to escape the mind manipulation !

[@TheYammerHammer]

I grew up in Utah. Stay strong

[@pennylane9289]

@@TheYammerHammer Thanks Hammer. I needed that!

[@vulkan7800]

I’m Mormon and I always like challenging myself. I have to do some thinking after watching. Always good to test faith! god will lead me down the correct path. Be it Mormon or not

[@TheMormonInformant]

Let me know if you would like sources for any of my claims. You can also read the CES letter that this video is a summary of to get more context and hyperlinked sources. Good luck!

[@richardhorn5554]

How is the research going? Please keep us updated!

[@celyne0512]

@@TheMormonInformant Hi! I have Mormon friends and they have talked me in and somehow "felt" the spirit while i was reading one of their recommended books. I am now studying it whether to seriously go with this religion or not. May I please have the sources for this video? Thank you!

[@TheMormonInformant]

Hi Cel. This is the original source for the video: cesletter.org

[@MsPoliteRants]

Cel As a former convert, I would like to point out that these feelings which they claim are from the spirit can also be achieved through group song. I experienced it at an MLM conference. Humans are very perceptive creatures, with strong empathetic pathways. When we are in a group of people who are happy about something, that feeling can be contagious. Please don’t let it dictate truth. You can be just as happy and fulfilled without sticking to cult rules.

[@thomaswilmeth6138]

I left the church 5.5 years ago and I’m definitely more happier, when I went as a kid it got to the point where I hated going to church and everything

[@shentzu]

Kind of shocked you got it down to 50...

[@mikedrop3034]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[@chriswatson3464]

He's done 50 more now.

[@AmyJoJoo]

I was born into Mormonisn.. I never truly believed, I constantly questioned what I was being taught, like when my mom said never marry a black man because they are cursed by God, I did not believe it. I look back and I'm proud-yet shocked- that at such a young age, I was able to keep myself from being brainwashed. I have wondered why me? Why did I get away when so many others are still stuck? .. I can honestly say I never developed a real testimony because I left the church at 12 years old. Well saying "left" the church is stretching it.. I was more bullied out due to my questions and disbelief in what I was being taught.

[@jainyjane01]

dont base your moms words on God's

[@AmyJoJoo]

@@jainyjane01 that's not what i was saying..... Also, I could counter that by saying "don't base ANYONES word as gods word" I simply stated something totally wack that I was taught. Btw, where exactly do you think my mother got that information from? Cuz if memory serves me right, it was common belief within the Mormon church that darker skinned people were cursed by God. That racist way of thinking came from the prophets of the church, came from the very top. So yes, it was something my mother tried to teach me, and that's because she was taught the same thing. So.. what then? Are you saying that no one can speak for God unless it's God himself? Cuz I totally agree with you on that (if there was a god). But I get the feeling that's not what you were saying. If you're gonna make the argument "don't base your mom's words as Gods" then that should pretty much mean "don't base anyone's words as gods" so I hope you are atheist.. cuz if not.. that's a huge contradiction.

[@NonyaSmith]

My story is very similar to yours. I never believed and left at 12yrs old also. I had a rough time when in, and am still very damaged from how my Mormon family system affected me in childhood, but oh boy do others have it so much worse.

[@AmyJoJoo]

@@NonyaSmith Yea, I am still trying to navigate through the trauma from my childhood, and the LDS cult played a huge part in why growing up was so painful and dysfunctional. I agree, other people do have it worse, but that doesn't mean your pain and trauma are any less real or less valid. My mom would always say that.. "other people have it worse".. Yes, I acknowledge that, but how does that help me overcome what I'm going through, ya know? Your story and your pain are just as valid. Take care of yourself ❣️

[@alocegreg530]

What is this got to do with the LDS

[@tacticixn]

I’m a Mormon currently and I don’t think my parents will accept me for who I am. My friend group is LDS and very open minded (except for a few) I love the way this church has accepted me, but they won’t if they know the real me. They have been my comfort but I can’t see myself staying in the church because there is just so much wrong with it. Right now I go to seminary daily and go to church every week, but when I move out I think I’m going to leave. I’ve tried to ask for help when my faith in god was low, but they just told me to “pray about it” how am I supposed to do that when I don’t think anyones listening? Thank you for making this video. I hope that I’ll get past this time In my life.

[@TheMormonInformant]

No matter what happens, just remember that it will get better. Your parents will come around, and your relationship with them will heal after they get through the grieving process. It will all be worth it when you can live your life authentically and fully with no pretense, and be loved for your authentic self. Don't hesitate to reach out if you need help. You've got this.

[@ignacioandresv3170]

A big problem with mormons is that it's quite difficult to leave the religion, especially if all your life revolves around it. If you're old enough you should tell your parents what you really feel about it and you have to be persistent with it because they'll surely try to convince you otherwise.

[@danedillingham1fan725]

I promise there is someone who always is listening. Keep and open mind because prayers don’t always come answered at the time or in the form we expect them to but they always do get answered. We love you.

[@freedom-si4yl]

@@TheMormonInformantWhen people leave the church they often take a spiritual plunge into sexual immorality, drugs, alcohol, and atheism. And many have problems with the law. It's as if the light in their lives turns off, and darkness reigns. But yet, here you are encouraging people to take that plunge. Doesn't sound like - "Love thy neighbor" means much of anything to you, my friend.

[@TheMormonInformant]

@@freedom-si4yl Again, your estimation of me and my life are of no value. You can't address the true information I present, and you ate trying to deflect to discussing my life, which you know absolutely nothing about. I believe I love my neighbor by warning as many people as I can to avoid your chosen faith. It is patently false, incredibly harmful, and a waste of time and money. If you see value in it, by all means remain. But you are wasting your time trying to scare me into "repentance." Your church has zero moral authority, and your god is an impotent fabricated delusion.

[@logicbombs5490]

Mormons: Seriously ask yourself, if the church wasn't true, would you want to know? If the answer is no, leave this video, deposit your tithing slip, and resume business as usual. If the answer is yes, then you have nothing to fear. After all, if it _is_ true, what harm could investigation do? In debate class it's encouraged to study your opponents most compelling arguments. You want to be prepared right?

[@spacesage533]

Logic Bombs Jodi Arias should of watched too. Then maybe she would not be in the position she is now

[@LChem1]

Jodi is Mormon? She slit his throat, right? She woukd slit your throat and then sit on top of your Christmas tree.... 🌲🔫🔪🙎🙀

[@heyman537]

So, have you seriously studied the most compelling reasons why The Church of Jesus Christ is true?

[@spacesage533]

@@heyman537 haha

[@heyman537]

@@spacesage533 Are you spiritually dead? I think probably so.

[@shemevans5472]

My family are mormons ( I am not). They are some of the kindest most giving people I know. On a daily basis my 67 year old mother is feeding someone, taking and elderly sister or brother to the doctors, spending her free time counselling for free (my mother is a retired drug and alcohol counsellor)! My father is an ex alcoholic who credits my mother and his decisions to join the LDS faith as the catalyst that turned his life around. My father is a very strong faithful man who like my mother spends his free time helping those that need help. Anyone who needs help, not just mormons!!! Charity is promoted heavily in the religion and was taught to us everyday by our parents with words and their actions! I do not agree with so many of the LDS church policies, but saying all Mormons and mormonism is bad to me is INCORRECT! My family are real examples of why these statements are not true!

[@TheMormonInformant]

Where did I say Mormons were bad?

[@shemevans5472]

@@TheMormonInformant not you mate. others who comment.

[@Feroxx65]

There are sincere people who live a life of a true believer but are not yet find the truth as it is in Jesus.

[@hollykate354]

finally was able to stop attending church/seminary my senior year. had to lie to my parents about my schedule and say i couldn’t fit seminary in, and they finally gave up and stopped forcing it on me. i still have a lot of mormon friends and i still love my very mormon family, but seriously i was going insane and religion did not help whatsoever. those of you being forced to go, hang in there. don’t let anything get to you. the members themselves are alright, but the teachings and gospel itself can be so harsh and confusing. don’t forget who you are in the midst of it all.

[@hollykate354]

@Theo Lionheart there’s so much that messed with me. some of the book of mormon itself is very fucked up, the way they pound in your brain how smoking weed or even drinking coffee is horrible, the disrespect for lqbt+ community as a whole, and what mainly got to me was the idea that god has a plan for everyone. i struggle with severe suicidal ideation and i started to genuinely think that if god has a specific plan for everyone that it was part of my plan to end my life and my death would just be another one of gods messed up trials for my family. it got really fucking bad.

[@ThatGreenKitty]

Thank you very much, I am indeed struggling the same thing trying to escape just cause of my mom forcing me to go

[@marleneroos4969]

@@hollykate354 The Word of Wisdom is in the D&C, not in the Book of Mormon. Smoking and drinking is not healthy anyway. I'm sorry that you are struggling. Do you feel that the suicidal ideation has to do with the push for perfection? I have felt this way my whole life. I never measured up and I lost all my self-esteem.

[@hannah11107]

i recently decided to leave the church at just 15 and found spirituality. it’s not normal to think breathing the wrong way is sending me to hell.

[@vq9683]

...breathing the wrong way is sending you to hell? Wtf kind of ward did you grow up in 😂

[@astart27]

This doesn’t make any sense. God doesn’t want anyone to go to hell. Especially for something so trivial.

[@31Takamine]

@@vq9683 sounds like OCD to me. Not the ward's fault, and not something to laugh about.

[@karatekar5018]

@@georgezeller6046 the LDS God is the same God as everyone else's. Don't try switching his words up kid. Also tell me one organization that did allow blacks before the 70s. You can't because there were none, the LDS church was actually the 2nd church to allow them. So read a little more before commenting

[@brooklyn2346]

Breathing the wrong way will not send you to hell and if you think this you might have been to an Amish church not the LDS church

[@mozaahsaseve8007]

i was born into the mormon church. raised in it my whole life. parents both return missionaries. watching this made me feel like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. i felt it in my gutt that this is true facts!!! i no longer consider myself as a member of the LDS church.

[@pennylane9289]

It was LIBERATING to have my LD$ number destroyed!

[@burritoburrito9176]

Sucks to be you

[@jimbomanzano4785]

@@pennylane9289 Good for you. Good for them too. 1 John 2:19 says, “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”

[@jonathanray7931]

@Jimbo Manzano Seriously! Hostility is not a trait that we as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are to be displaying toward anyone. We are called on to be charitable, kind, sensitive, intuitive, understanding, compassionate, loving...in short Christian aka Christlike. Now I get your mentality, mood, attitude etc. as I used to be that way too some years ago now but I have been working on bettering myself even though I am far from being perfect and slip up to one degree or another every so often. Anyway I call on you, me and all of us to repent and re/turn to the Lord Jesus Christ and the Father and, to the best of our capabilities, live as They have commanded us to and to emulate Christ in every aspect of being charitable etc. This I pray for in the Blessed, Sacred and Holy Name of Jesus Christ, Amen! Take care and God bless you and yours. Sincerely a fellow member.

[@jumperstartful]

I would like to hear mormons and JWs discuss doctrine.

[@brasabza9739]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thewomble1509]

I can't see a problem.............

[@nancywestmoreland1724]

@@thewomble1509 They are both cults with nutty beliefs.

[@joshyyekonsire1]

I imagine it being like flat earthers debating with anti flu shot moms

[@Derk758]

Nancy westmoreland I have never heard something so true that I fully agree with. I LOVE. IT.

[@magical8013]

It's so crazy to think how many people follow this religion. I live in Utah, when I was younger I could not play with the LDS children because the parents wouldn't let me, because I wasn't Mormon. It was a very odd experience. My family actually moved around quite a bit and this happened in multiple neighborhoods, they welcome you into the neighborhood, and kind of pry into your business. They like to stay together, it's really strange. You would think they would be more accepting

[@pennylane9289]

"stay together" is an understatement! If you only knew what they say behind the curtains! After 30 + yrs it took a long time to escape! LIBERATING !

[@pennylane9289]

You are the lucky one!! I was lured in to it and took a deep dive. It was the biggest mistake ever! So glad to get out after 30 yrs! The Federal Gov shut them down once. Now they pick back up in secret ceremonies-smh

[@MasterDiverGirl33]

Me too, grew up in Sandy, sucked BIG time :/

[@marleneroos4969]

Interesting. I've never not allowed my kids to play with non-members. That's ridiculous.

[@magical8013]

@@marleneroos4969 and your of the good ones who doesn't see outsiders as a threat to your family. Good job, I have honestly met a lot of Mormons like you I just have had multiple bad experiences, as a kid I was not able to play with majority of the kids in my neighborhood because I wasn't interested in going to church, at least I wasn't interested in going to that church I was a Christian, but I did not follow that religion. That was enough to make parents think we were bad kids. Plus we really didn't have a steady church we went to. We actually went to multiple churches to try to find the one that we like the most, but the Mormon church was not up there on the list

[@Streamy_Imp]

I've always been mormon since I was a kid, but when I was about 11 I stopped going because some of the kids were bullying me. Later when I was about 16 I started to go again because I found people who were actually nice and they didn't pressure me to go to church. I now know now that there are some people in the church who are corrupted, and there are those who aren't. I try to stay away from people who pressure me into going to church when I don't want to. As they are trying to take advantage of me.

[@justoneway14.65]

I think it's important to attend a church not because of the people there, but because you believe what the church believes is true. The big question is why do you believe that Mormons have it right in terms of religion and scriptures?

[@Streamy_Imp]

Strong Tower Yes, but not everything in life is 100%

[@the_last_slice9041]

@@strongtower9237 Anyway, what do you mean by "The evidence is extraordinary." ? Can you demonstrate this evidence? Is it objective, or subjective? "I know that I have been perfected." How do you know? If you point to scriptures, how do you know they are true? How do you know the Bible is the word of god?

[@myspiritualife]

Thank you for your videos. They are so well put together and helpful. I have recently decided to leave the Mormon church and it has been very emotionally difficult but I find your videos very comforting to me as they validate so many issues that I have with the church.

[@jamesmorgan2064]

This dude is a full on atheist. He went s little far 😂

[@tatum2062]

I grew up Mormon. I am not naive, and I know that it is very problematic in a LOT of ways. There is definitely a lot of sexism, unanswered questions, and shameful tactics. But people need to realize that 95% of Mormons are just people living their life and not bothering anyone. You may disagree with their teachings, and I don’t blame you, and you may be asking yourself why a lot of them stay in the church. But it’s hard for members to just abandon their way of living after so many years. A lot of them have put so much emotional and spiritual energy into it. So please, don’t sit here and judge every single Mormon person just because of a video you watched. It’s so easy to judge on the outside looking in. Let people be happy. Your neighbor being Mormon isn’t effecting your life. And if it is, I think the problem isn’t them, it’s you. Just like if your neighbor was gay, Muslim, republican, trans, etc.

[@TheMormonInformant]

The purpose of this video is to promote skepticism, examination, introspection, and ideally a shift in belief. As a former Mormon, these topics are all things I wish I had known before giving 25 years to a system that I now know to be false. I have many friends and family members who remain in the church, and have nothing but love for them, and hope they are happy. But I feel a duty to speak the truth, even when the truth is hard to hear.

[@tatum2062]

@@georgezeller6046 you clearly did not read what I wrote. Which is that I’m fully aware the Mormon church is problematic and don’t stand by those hateful antics. You don’t need to give me a history lesson of a church I used to be apart of. My statement was that most of the followers are harmless. Most of them are good people who want to live good lives and use their tithing money to help others. The church management is a whole separate issue.

[@cpatch-nh5cs]

@Tatum, Mormonism steals from members by misrepresenting what a tithe is supposed to be, then spends the money on corporate interests instead of charity. Mormonism promoted both racism and sedition against the US government as holy doctrine. Worst of all, Mormonism distorts, mutilates and misrepresents the life of Christ, and introduces non-biblical concepts like spirit marriage. Mormonism is not harmless, and neither are its followers.

[@azdrone233]

Not bothering anyone? So the thousands of missionaries that knocking on doors and harassing people isn’t “bothering them”. What a joke

[@gizzardgizzard3583]

the only problem is mormons are very anti-LGBT so they aren't exactly "not a threat"

[@bodaciousgaming9322]

I can't believe I had to live in this shit for 18 years.

[@andreapack5372]

I can't believe I believed it for 18 years

[@ryanhoopes3335]

@@andreapack5372 me too me too

[@Lebronwski]

@@Funknutz420024 not being Mormon doesn’t mean you deny existence of a God

[@Lebronwski]

@@georgezeller6046 an uncaused creator

[@michaelhill7878]

I feel ya brother.

[@jesitacarvalho5456]

Bruh adultry to next level marrying his daughters 😶

[@alejandragalindo7004]

I am 15 and consider myself to not be a member anymore, when growing up I had no feelings towards the church, and I didn’t feel spiritual, it I kept quiet cause I thought that was just how everyone feels. I finally told my mom and she did not except my feelings, and it hurts. I still have to go to church related activities, camps, and bible studies and it’s so stressful. And I don’t know what to do because whenever I say that I don’t want to participate she says I don’t have a choice in it. It feels like I’m trapped

[@shaunameyer1808]

While you live at home, just go to church and try and enjoy your friends like I did, then when you leave home then make the decision to never go back. Also, as I got older I was able answer a lot of my own questions that bothered me for years. Good luck

[@FluffyArtiste20]

You need to have a SERIOUS heart to heart conversation with your mom. She needs to understand that not everyone is going to be the same or feel the same way about certain things. That’s just not acceptable when people use religion to take advantage of their children. If she doesn’t understand, MAKE her understand.

[@nolans11]

The most impressive thing about this video is that you managed to keep it to only 50

[@MrPonytron]

There's a part 2! 😊 Have fun

[@noahbodycares3005]

If you are reading this, you are so brave for asking questions. The truth has no reason to hide from your curiosity. Keep searching. Doubt is a virtue.

[@isaachansen9512]

Thank you for this video. I grew up a member and rarely (Practically never) questioned anything that I was taught growing up. The past couple years I've kinda just stopped going for various reasons but I always had this little voice in the back of my head saying "But what if it is true and I'm ruining my chances at Eternal Life?" This video and the CES Letter have gotten rid of that voice and it is so freeing.

[@garymize9841]

The reason that the confusion stops is because once you have given up on Exaltation the Adversary has accomplished his goal and he has won. As we work through the confusion and as we demonstrate our faith and conviction the Adversary backs off but he will keep on trying. Pressing forward will always meet resistance. It’s not easy but it’s definitely worth it. Being loyal to our testimony is a constant challenge because of the pressures of opposition. That is the sure indication that you’re on the right path. Just like plowing a field or climbing a mountain. When the resistance is gone you can be sure that something isn’t right.

[@stevecash83]

well damn...

[@Alex-ls8lo]

I didn't know you'd go to this side of KZbin.

[@moondancer3157]

@Jesus Christ haha

[@hotbitch7885]

Woooooooow your famous and I watch your channel I go on the video and see you..... wowwwww

[@dhpstudios3451]

Watch your language.

[@braedonrogers5534]

@@dhpstudios3451 Lol if it offends you then don't use the internet. There are even worse things than a swear on even this site lmao

[@66beavis]

I'm so glad I watched this because I was thinking about joining. Thank god I didn't !

[@Pinkie007]

steve hansen why would you want to join a religion

[@sodapopinski14]

Comicdragon 333 i appreciate what you’re saying... but can you provide any arguments against the claims this video has made?

[@thanesmashmontages412]

@@sodapopinski14 Hell no he can't. I was a member for 29 years, and this dude has no clue about the truth. Everything in this video is fact, backed mostly by historical documents from members of their own church. The church has stepped on it's own toes a lot throughout the years, comicdragon still has the blinders up. Do not get sucked in. 29 years of my time, and money were stolen from me, on top of emotional, physical, and spiritual abuse.

[@mikemoses3843]

@Comicdragon 333 lol. Seriously. Did you even watch the video?! If the church is so true, then it would be nothing to refute all these claims. By all means, go ahead. I'll wait. The church doesn't welcome all who join. They welcome all who bring tithes.

[@korbinderr7819]

Mike Moses mike you know that’s not true... are you kicked out of the church for not paying the tithing? No, you’re not

[@evanwhipple8387]

I'm done being part of a church of lies

[@markbettencourt4252]

Amen to that

[@evanwhipple8387]

@EatPlums , I am thankful for coming from a Mormon background, it has changed and shaped many of the values I still have, including my family.

[@RMokros]

That's fine, there is a nice little place in the Outer Darkness for you!

[@legendary_tortoiseo5553]

Just because the church isn’t for you doesn’t mean it’s bad. A lotta people are happy in the church and are good people.

[@BeanDar]

When I was "deconverted" it was hard. I felt alone and confused. But I promise you having a better grip on reality is much healthier.

[@wotmot223]

I used be part of the L.D.S. church, and I am surprised how un-confrontational this is. Not all 50 points make much sense in the context of being a problem, but I left for many of the reasons put forth here. It took me ten years of study, prayer and thought before deciding that how ever good the church membership is (and for the most part they are) I can not accept the idea that Joseph Smith or Brigham Young were prophets of God. I might be wrong, but I have to do what my mind, my heart, and the spirit (through prayer) have lead me to.

[@volker11]

+Richard Blackmore that good to know! i have been seeing these 3 female missionary's for 2+ months now and they finally gave up one me. the reason i have with the church is i dont want a mormon record and being a part of a statistic. bascally everyone in this mormon church tells me the whole point missionarys force there beliefs/rush you to get baptized is because they are trying to get as many people as they can before there mission is up. that not cool with me! i totally can understand what you are saying about Joseph Smith or Brigham Young! to me Joseph Smith was bascally doing what Martin Luther did but making himself sounds so powerful. lastly for me, what is the whole point of me trying to be mormon if i dont want to do any temple things/work. none of my family is mormon and they never did or want to be mormon and they dont want me to do a baptizm for the dead for them, i dont want to use my body as a proxy for anyone because if you look at all types of proxy they can be used for bad things or they can be corrupted in the process of being used. i cant even see myself marry a mormon girl, so i wont be sealed in a temple. i did a Orlando temple trip with my missionary and i was so nervous going there and stepping foot on the property. they kept saying it is the devil, but i know it was a heavenly sign saying what you are doing is wrong.

[@johnaidan4448]

+UnlimitedMedia XD its not mormonism, thats like saying Catholicism or muslimism im not even a Mormon and know that XD

[@johnaidan4448]

+UnlimitedMedia no offense

[@TheMormonInformant]

+john aidan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism

[@johnaidan4448]

+The Mormon Informant first mistake Wikipedia

[@kokob9197]

nothings gonna bring me more joy then the day I can get my records removed on my 18th birthday.

[@stockinettestitch]

Koko B I was 15. I just wrote to the leaders in Salt Lake City and said I no longer believed it was the true church and wanted my name taken off the roles. They sent back a letter saying I had been ex-communicated. 🙄

[@uthinkiamhot]

Best of luck!!! The liberation is sublime, cheers ☕🍵 tea/coffee cheers! (you're gunna need to wait till 21 to get a 🍻, 😉)

[@rileylovejoy8315]

uthinkiamhot you don’t need to wait until 21😂😂

[@uthinkiamhot]

@@rileylovejoy8315 shhhhh 😉😉 I know.

[@cayea4076]

It's not legal for them to do that anymore! Many years ago someone sued the Mormon church for that, and the Mormon church was ordered to allow people to resign. You may want to look into it.

[@robertmcknight5046]

Only 50?

[@TheMormonInformant]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3PYaKyQqNubZ7s

[@tesshaynes1652]

Actually the title should be “0 things wrong with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints”

[@Kwiyagat]

@@tesshaynes1652 Really now? You don't even see sleeping with a 14 year old wrong.

[@tesshaynes1652]

Actually we don’t do that in our church at all it is against our religion. (Please don’t hate me) We believe that you shouldn’t sleep with a man that you aren’t married to.

[@Dawnyy]

@@fescot349 because 1800 Lds laws wouldn’t hold up in 2020

[@RackaGack]

I was 18, it was summer. I had plans to go on a mission in January. I had just gotten home from a long flight, and it was a Sunday morning. My mom asked if I wanted to go to church, and I said “nah, I want to rest.” She said cool, and left. I said I would watch church virtually, because it was still during corona, but something weird happened. Instead of watching the church broadcast, I was prompted to look up “Mormon church debunked.” I had never looked up anything like that in my life before because I was brainwashed into not doing that, but I guess in a moment of clarity, my brain reasoned, “If this really is the true church, there should be nothing wrong with looking up something like this, because I should be able to explain everything.” This video was traumatizing at first but It ended up opening a rabbit hole of research that brought me to the conclusion that this whole thing was a fucking sham. That ended up completely changing the course of my life, I now spend every Sunday free, didn’t do a mission, and I don’t pay 10% of my income to this stupid bullshit cult. I hope to help my family out of this, but I fear they won’t choose to hear the message like I did. All I can say is, thank you, you had an undeniable impact on my life and the work done here is extremely important.

[@matthewnehorai8056]

I'm literally leaving on June 7th to go serve my mission in Atlanta. Same situation except I'm the version who's staying in the church and you're the version who left. This video did raise some questions for me though. How is your life going now that you left ?

[@RackaGack]

@@matthewnehorai8056 so much better, I’m working and going to school, and I have a head start on all of my friends. Switching from being mormon to agnostic atheist has changed the way I view my mortality in a much more motivating way. This is the only life I 100% know I have, so Im doing my best to make the most of it.

[@danielmeakin]

Jesus loves you and freed us from religion. (John 3:16) - whosoever means whosoever. Just believe. What you do from there is between you and God it's no one else's business. God bless.

[@RackaGack]

@@danielmeakin thanks but I have many good reasons to doubt that anything close a god exists, and there are absolutely none I have seen that would tangibly and obviously indicate the existence of one. Your prayers are kind, but they will not do anything.

[@kevinpolanco744]

I have an story similar to yours, in a moment when I was 18 a KZbin video also came up on my recommendations about problems with Mormon church, because of I was so brainwashed at that time I got so mad when I saw the video, I didn't even watch half of it and instead I throw hate comments to it without even wanting to think logically about what the video said, two years later the same video showed on my profile but that time I decided to watch it completely and reason about it, I realized about everything and made me be so disappointed and even disgusted, I regret I did not complete watching the video before

[@patriley5333]

Talked to a deer, ya after eating funny cactus fruit.

[@byroncosta8614]

That's funny..

[@byroncosta8614]

Is anyone out there on this, list exmormon sandor return missionaries that lives in southern California?

[@clydeg4274]

It’s just as ridiculous as every other organized religion.

[@saitamasensei3953]

Is that a giant mushroom? Maybe its friendly 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍

[@ducky1115]

J45

[@fecza]

I left the church while I was at BYUI and leaving the church was almost as damaging to myself and my life as growing up in it. For the longest time I've tried to leave the church in the past without being able to actually move on. Of course, family and friends made this whole journey much more difficult. After watching your video I can finally feel the lightness of freedom and the empowering knowledge that I can truly find the truth for myself. Thank you so much! I just feel for the non english speakers... how can we help them? I was actually born in Brazil and I wish there was some other versions in different languages or sub titles.

[@TheMormonInformant]

+F Czar Thank you for sharing your experience! I'm very interested in having this video translated into all major languages - do you happen to speak Portuguese or know anybody who does?

[@fecza]

+The Mormon Informant Yes I do speak Portuguese. :)

[@LilView]

the truth is that no man has the truth, and the truth might never be known to man

[@pennylane9289]

After 30 yrs I did too. Its great freedom, quite an awakening and great to find support on line! Good ole Joe Smith didnt see 2022 coming! DNA has proven a lot

[@paulburn1400]

​@@richardholmes5676Paul Gregerson is an embarrassment and hasn't debunked anything.

[@glensatterfield9337]

Thank you for this video. It is because of your videos that my wife and I discovered the lies with Mormonism. After over 70 years of faithful membership we submitted our resignations last week. Thank you.

[@TheMormonInformant]

I wish you both all the best in your post-Mormon adventure! 🥂

[@glensatterfield9337]

@@TheMormonInformant Thank you!

[@danh-RedSwan]

Glen Satterfield : Unfortunately, that being the case, you have passed up a wonderful way expressing your true self. Look inward with prayer, outward with your heart and find the truth by experience, rather than propaganda by individuals with bias. Ask the “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints”, any question you have... it will be answered.🙂

[@glensatterfield9337]

@@danh-RedSwan Hi Dan. We appreciate your concern. We really do. So thank you for commenting. We have lived the gospel for over 70 years. Please know we lived the gospel during a time that the new narrative embraced by the church today was firmly called "anti Mormon lies". We taught our children that these topics were lies. Many years ago as a Bishop I was approached by several ward members over the 5 years I served who had concerns over this information they found through research long before the internet. I was counseled by my stake president as a bishop and then reaffirmed to the ward members that this information was lies. Now after all this time the church says this information is in fact truth? I am sorry but the church has not been honest with us as members. We have been taken advantage of and manipulated. Those of us who were missionaries, parents, grandparents, served in leadership positions, or even taught the youth or gospel doctrine, pushed this false narrative onto others as we were taught and instructed to do. Please do not accept what the church has claimed previously as truth, or what they now teach today as truth for that matter (It cant both be true, right?). Be critical of claims that are extraordinary and defy logic. Research these claims through all sources. Look at the original source material whenever possible (there is lots of it). Double check the sources being used in anyone claims. Research what prophets have taught us over the whole history of the church from the restoration up to today. Is there consistency? Look at the evolution of the theology and truth claims from pre-1830 until 2020. Only once you have genuinely put in the time to fully research from sources that have not been sanitized can you pass judgement on who is telling the truth. Best of luck in your research. Glen and Sue Satterfield

[@claudio9135]

@Glen Satterfield hi, im a recent convert, got baptized with mi twin a year ago, we are 18, we inicially felt and where sure the church was truth, we even went out with misionaires and practically decided to go on a mission, we left a lot and our parents got really angry, but we were told and rely on faith that going to the mission will be the best, now we are getting cold on faith of mormonism, we went práctically from being exagerately active to non active in 3 months.

[@dylanharper354]

When Brigham Young said "the day black people get the priesthood is the day the church dies"

[@jasonleroywharton]

That was the day that the Cain of the new world was allowed to go ahead and do his thing.

[@legendary_tortoiseo5553]

Plenty of black people have the priesthood

[@vinnys1705]

@@legendary_tortoiseo5553 i know.....how sad lol

[@legendary_tortoiseo5553]

Vinny S no it really isn’t

[@vinnys1705]

@@legendary_tortoiseo5553 it is when its an american religion preaching false teachings lol. How is that black people were allowed priesthoods after the days of black slavery...coincidence? For e.g.

[@cptcodfish]

I loved that you used a scene from Saving Private Ryan (or something similar) to talk about "feeling the spirit" during activities that should have caused the spirit to flee. That movie was a life changing event for me and I struggled for years to reconcile my strong "spiritual feelings" that I had while "sinning."

[@AthleticAffairs]

cptcodfish Feeling strong emotions is different from feeling the spirit

[@Bankable2790]

@@AthleticAffairs How?

[@micahjami]

I’m interested in more of the connections to the Masonic lodges... because Scientology , Mormons, and Jehovah’s Witnesses all have founders who were Free masons. They all have Similar cult aspects too

[@thecreatedvoid117]

From a Christian background, I view it as intentional deception. But even if one were to look at it from a non-religious standpoint, it’s still a bit too coincidental.

[@TheSoleProprietor]

Thanks to the satire of South Park, I know that Scientology is messed up. But Free Masonry I will never understand. I always thought Masonry of any kind was bricklaying... as in actually building a brick house or other structure.

[@bryonnajones]

As a person of color that is considering this church I must admit I must admit that I am very confused at this moment but I am grateful for the insight and by this information

[@brandonprows]

Hey friend, Check out the CES Letter if you're interested: read.cesletter.org/

[@ladybugmom10]

I hope you will take it with a huge grain of salt. Obviously this person is against any organized religion and wants to drag others down with him.

[@liamtollenger5326]

don't join for your own sake

[@luq44]

@@ladybugmom10 the whole video is truth, you can do your own research on every point he makes, you are clearly blinded by your own indoctrination

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Save yourself the misery and money. Do not join this CULT. Watch the videos on this channel, Mormon Stories, Zelph on the Shelf, Chrissy's Corner, Exmo Lex, Ex-mormon foundation, and NewNameNoah.

[@adamarmstrong622]

In a thousand years we will look back on all current religions the way we currently look at the eqyptian gods

[@chriswatson3464]

I hope, we'll have to work hard.

[@binren3984]

This Earth will be gone before the thousand years

[@daisyjune5135]

So similar to the Jehovah's Witness religion. It's scary.

[@kristopherbarker3282]

We are nothing like them

[@kristopherbarker3282]

we believe that Christ is God's son, and that he died for our sins, and that he was resurrected by God on the third day, the new Sabbath

[@daisyjune5135]

kristopher barker So do JWs. Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses were founded by Freemasons Charles Taze Russell and Joseph Smith. Both of their teachings are based on lies. I researched the history of Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses. Tons of skeletons in their closets both men were child molesters and frauds. Both religions appeared in the 1800's along with the 7 day Adventists which is also a cult.

[@kristopherbarker3282]

+Daisy Mae these are lies, created by the people to stop the truth. The Catholic church probably started them to keep power. Just like the leadership in Israel killed Jesus in Jerusalem. They wanted to keep there power. Also, if you are Catholic, there are commandments being broken all the time in you religion. Respond to know how. Jehovah is Christ's name in premortal life.

[@daisyjune5135]

kristopher barker I am a Jehovah's Witness but I have woken up to the truth of this fake religion. I did a thorough research on this religion even though we are told not to just like the Mormons. You are told not to research Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

[@ryanmckissick9610]

When the leader of your faith tells you that people live on the Moon, and later the Sun, you may want to rethink their credibility...Brigham Young expanded on the teaching that the Sun was inhabited.“Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon?… when you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the most ignorant of their fathers. So it is in regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain. It was made to give light to those who dwell upon it, and to other planets; and so will this earth when it is celestialized”.

[@brennantsullivan]

Ryan McKissick, your mental, gotta say it, he uses them as symbols, comparisons, mormons do not believe people live in the sun, that's not even logical, watch his talk more closely.

[@ryanmckissick9610]

My point exactly, but you just validated my statement... Read the entire statement above. These are actual words from your church leaders mouth.

[@rodohlwiler7347]

That was Brigham Young's opinion...he wasn't speaking for God at that time...people can have their own opinions, you know... besides, so what?? Opinions can also be wrong. Some people felt that man would never land on the moon also - that was their opinion...but they were also wrong. Back in the late 1800's, people probably thought men would never fly in a plane, so what? He thought the moon was inhabited, so what?

[@Mountainman1971]

Rod Ohlwiler we did Not and can Not leave low earth orbit. So No we did Not go to the moon. You are deceived.

[@rodohlwiler7347]

Tell that to the International Space Station crew, or to the satellites we've sent to Saturn, Jupiter, etc...and to all those early people who thought the earth was flat? There's also photos of the U.S. flag planted on the moon. I suppose Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin are lying to us all when they said they walked on the moon, also? Why would they do that? All the NASA people are in a conspiracy to fool us? Not likely.

[@spencersavage491]

I love how some mormons are coming into the comments section thinking they're super smart and that you're wrong and then when they try to debate you they get slapped in the face with facts and then stop responding

[@pacloward]

facts? With religion? why don't you debate an apple?

[@lolawilson1027]

😂🤣 yup lol

[@legendary_tortoiseo5553]

I am a Mormon and I am definitely not brainwashed I choose to believe these things and do the best I can to follow. Everyone throwing shade and saying that Mormon church treats its members badly when really only a small fraction of members have left. Just because you can’t handle the beliefs doesn’t mean everyone else that does is bad.

[@legendary_tortoiseo5553]

@Kaeble I don’t have to because we don’t even do that anymore it was stopped ages ago.

[@legendary_tortoiseo5553]

@Kaeble I’ve been in the church all my life and everyone is friendly and nothing suspicious or secretive had ever happened n my church. It’s like there’s s secret basement where we all sacrifice a small goat and give our blood 😂. I dot know if they do things a little differently in America but the Mormon church in New Zealand is definitely not a big church of lies and secrets. But I can’t imagine being any different than n America maybe just way bigger.

[@thehotpoolboy4414]

Christians at 0:00: “Lol what a bunch of idiots!!” Christians at 7:16: “wait wut.”

[@Gidzh5]

Different bone structure doesn't necessarily mean different 'kinds'. Christians accept humans underwent microevolution from environmental pressures, as evident from fossil evidence, but didn't undergo Darwinian evolution. People still today exhibit a large range of skull structures and head shapes. Darwinian evolution still remains very much a theory, not proven, even though it is taught as fact.

[@TheMormonInformant]

Gids, the fact that you don't know the difference between a scientific theory and a theory in the colloquial sense shows that you need to look into the issue much further than you have. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

[@eternallyminded7]

@@TheMormonInformant A theory is a theory.

[@TheMormonInformant]

@@eternallyminded7 A theory in the colloquial sense is more like a scientific hypothesis. A scientific theory is so substantiated that it may as well be called a "proven fact."

[@uthinkiamhot]

@@Gidzh5 it is taught as a scientific theory because observations, evidence, and experiments support this explanation of the observable world around us. I dunno what you think a "fact" is but typically jesus people get weird about things being "facts" and yet believe "truth" claims about a genocidal, bigoted, racist god who murders infants, but have no evidence to support these claims. Cheers! Enjoy fantasy land!

[@rockcreek811]

Another reason I find quite interesting is Joseph Smith's first Wife Emma and his son Joseph Smith III didn't follow the mainstream sect of Mormons.Instead they formed their own sect of Mormonism that is still in practice today. I find it odd that the only woman that was legally married to the second hand of god wouldn't follow the true religion/Brigham Young.

[@treborsnrubyeldaw9729]

Do not overlook the fact that Emma is a person of free will and also too proud to follow the Church since she would no longer be at the side of the Prophet.

[@leighcowley9869]

It is because Emma had had enough sacrifice in her life. She didn’t care for Brigham and just wanted to be left alone. About her starting her own church is wrong. Some of those who didn’t like Brigham young either went to Emma when her son was twelve years old. They believed that the leadership of the church should have been passed down from father to son. Emma wanted nothing to do with it. She told them that when her son turned 18 they could come back and talk with him. They did come back and young Joseph said no. But when he had turned 27 he told them that he would be their leader. Emma joined on condition that they teach joseph her husband never practiced polygamy. It was all Brigham young’s doing.

[@AquilaCat]

Oh my gosh. Some of this I already knew about, but a lot of it is new information to me. I was raised Mormon, but stopped going to church when I was probably 5 or 6 because they played some game with all us kids where they lined us up in the hallway and had us blindfolded. I don't remember what the point of the game was, but I remember being terrified by the blindfold and I was apparently scared enough that my mom didn't force me to go back until I was ready. I think I went back one after I got baptized when I was 8, but I was suuuuper shy at the time. They brought me up in front of everyone to re-introduce me (they didn't need to since I went to school with all the kids that were there anyway) and being put on the spot to introduce myself in front of everyone terrified me again and I bribed my mom afterwards, telling her I would rather do chores every Sunday than go back to church. She didn't force me to go back, though now she says she wishes she did. I have to remind her that if she had forced me, I would have probably just grown to hate her and hate church even more. But I still believed until I was around 10 years old, when it just felt like there wasn't anybody listening when I prayed every night, like I was just praying to thin air. I didn't know ANY of the contradictions within the religion until later when I was in high school and heard about the more in depth beliefs from my Mormon peers. It was fascinating talking to them about it, but it all seemed so ridiculous to me. I am so happy my mom never forced me to go back to church.

[@LukeTRandall]

“You shouldn’t criticize church leaders. Even if the criticism is true.” Yikes... check please? I mean that is the most cult-like expression I’ve ever heard.

[@faulty4350]

when is that at?

[@LukeTRandall]

@@faulty4350 I think it’s at the very end. Let me look for it when I get a minute. But you can also do a KZbin search for “Dallin H Oaks criticism of church leaders” and a 13 second clip appears first as the first result.

[@thegrimlife2187]

Partly true yes. Read the talk but he had a really good point

[@LukeTRandall]

@@thegrimlife2187 Good points made at times for sure, I have nothing against people who want to believe in it, it's just not for me. It's my personal belief that we should be free to question things that are told to us.

[@thegrimlife2187]

@@LukeTRandall and you’re totally right my friend

[@aranyanifox4375]

I once met two young elders here in Switzerland, both were from Utah, they were distributing Book of Mormon on the street and we ended up talking. They were very polite, so I asked about their leadership and one of them explained that there is always a living, direct connection to God through a prophet, and that once a year, every year, the prophet (i.e. the current leader of the church) and some other men close themselves in and receive a direct, secret guidance and new rules from God, which they then present to the community later. I cannot remember the exact details as it was some 5 years ago, but I clearly recall my astonishment when I asked in what way that guidance is received, and they looked at each other, shrugged and said that the prophet talks to God directly and God talks back, and that he wasn't sure but that the prophet actually maybe even sees God in person... Interestingly enough, they were not very curious or intrigued by that, it was just a matter-of-fact detail that the prophet has a pre-scheduled annual conversation directly with God himself in a secret chamber, and that it was only mildly interesting to them to know the details... They kept trying to convert me for a couple of years, then finally gave up.

[@melaniesue2010]

I'm curious, what is your current faith? If I may ask, of course. I see you're from Sweden. I am an American Heathen and a witch. My grandfather was from Sweden. I apologize if my question is inappropriate.

[@bburnsga]

When I was an active member of the LDS church, living in Salt Lake City, I can remember presidents (prophets) saying that they "felt" this or that...never did I hear one say that he talked with God. Sometimes I would wonder why, if they truly were prophets of God, God just didn't tell them what to do like He did Moses, Abraham, & the other ancient prophets. Sometimes they even seemed a little lost, to me...like they weren't sure what to do on certain subjects.

[@ContrarianCorner]

Years ago I was visiting Rome. After hours of sightseeing on a very hot day, I found a shady bench in a park and sat down to eat my lunch. Down the path came two young Mormons with dejected looks on their faces and I couldn't contain my laughter as they passed in front of me. "What's so funny?" one of them asked. I said, "You guys really got a shitty assignment. I'm guessing you're not having much luck here." My answer seemed to disarm them completely and they quickly sat down and joined me in the shade. One said something like, "Oh man, you have no idea." I laughed again. I offered to share my food and invited them to rest for a while. We sat and talked for about 20 minutes and religion never even came up aside from them confessing how they were completely striking out. I think they were just happy to talk to a sympathetic anglophone and get out of the heat. After a pleasant chat, we just went our separate ways. There's a fair bit of hostility in these comments from both sides. In my opinion, what we humans fear the most is uncertainty. As a result, our need to be "right" takes on almost pathological proportions. From that place, it is not surprising that people will convince themselves of the most preposterous things. At the base of every belief system is the unspoken, but inescapable, notion, "I'm right and you're wrong." The arrogance and hubris of this would make me laugh just like I did at those poor chaps in Rome, if it wasn't also the cause of so much human suffering. When it comes to the big questions in life: We all like to think we're right... we're not. We all want to believe we know the truth... we don't. For some reason, people would more likely force, shun, disown, and even kill, rather than admit this simple fact to themselves. All in the name of "love" and "wanting what's best for them," of course. Be well, and be kind...

[@TheWallaceReboot]

@@ContrarianCorner Love this, thank you for sharing. Happily know very little over here. :)

[@jsmith1746]

One small point of correction, albeit VERY small, and you may have had it pointed out already: The blood oaths portion of the temple ceremony was removed in April 1990, not in the 1980s.

[@TheMormonInformant]

Good catch. The Masons removed theirs in 1986, and the LDS church followed suit four years later.

[@jsmith1746]

@@TheMormonInformant- I only remember it because my best childhood friend went through in March 1990 and saw the old ceremony, while I went through just three months later and got the new, sanitized version. The change was a really big deal back then. (No, I am no longer a practicing Mormon)

[@nicoleshaw9138]

@@TheMormonInformant What exactly were the blood oath ceremonies???

[@brettbarney4927]

Very well done. Thank you. I trust that it's a matter of time before truth wins out, though it's not always easy to be optimistic, given our collective history (as humans) of participating eagerly in our own deception. As a very recent exile from Mormonism, I know firsthand the appeal.

[@juneholley1813]

Where are all the Mormons disproving these issues in the video? I see lots of people saying these claims are lies, but then they never come back with any evidence.

[@Dawnyy]

One thing I’ll never understand is some of those witnesses became hardcore anti-lds, yet they never denied what they said they saw, that’s the only thing that has me barely holding on to it possibly being true.

[@jarenpwatson]

@@Dawnyy perhaps, but they did admit to not seeing the plates with their eyes. And the eight witnesses didn't sign. Oliver Cowdery signed all of their names.

[@faulty4350]

@@Dawnyy a lot of early members had issues with church leadership, especially after Joseph died. They left the Church because of this but they never denied the book of Mormon

[@mundoeuniverso5123]

@@jarenpwatson Perhaps the rest of them were illiterate like many people at that time.

[@jarenpwatson]

@@mundoeuniverso5123 Perhaps. But then we'd have to explain how they wrote the letters, journals, and hundreds of other written documents that they wrote which we can read. Maybe they were just illiterate on the day Oliver Cowdery signed their names.

[@GeorgeDemetz]

Having translated the books of Abraham and Moses, Joseph Smith was well aware of this curse based upon a judgment in the pre mortal life, and he made the following statement that Dr.Reeves and other apostate deceivers will NEVER tell you: "The curse is not yet taken off the sons of Canaan, neither will it be until it is affected by as great a power as caused it to come.". Joseph Smith April 7, 1836!!!

[@jamailellis82]

I am 14 and a mormon by my mom forcing me. We are basically shackled to the church because they pay our rent and give us food. I don't believe in what there saying and was baptized in a catholic church as an infant and I wish there was a way out for me. My mom is clearly getting brainwashed and my stomach is turning thinking about the fact that until I'm 18 (4 years time) I am forced to talk to, put up with, and devote my life to dead-eyed, fake smiling, Charles Manson cousin, creepy two face people.

[@BeanDar]

Raised in the conservative church of christ, same thing about boring creepy hypocritical people. Stay strong, stand your ground, and look for people who are willing to be actual friends if there is any

[@sonneyputh6503]

Prayers for you brother

[@danedillingham1fan725]

Dude the church is paying your bills i dont know why your complaining. Firing at the church when they are the only thing keeping you from homelessness. Come on dude.

[@americancommunist6076]

I found this a while ago, thank you for helping me be free, it helped a lot.

[@moorek1967]

Wow, he married 11 women who were already married....and their husbands didn't know?

[@TheMormonInformant]

Some of the husbands knew, others didn't. One was on a mission when his wife was propositioned.

[@moorek1967]

I recently had a Mormon try to argue with me that marriage is eternal because of the keys "bind on earth, bind in heaven and loose on earth, loose in heaven". Don't they even apply logic to anything? If those women were already married and it was bound in heaven, then they obviously couldn't be eternally married to Joseph Smith. Since it was their husbands who bound them, then only their husbands could loose them....logically, then Smith could in no way bind or loose them. They are just like people of any other cult, they oppose logic because logic destroys their belief system. And that's fairly damaging to the ego and people can be hurt psychologically. I am sad for them when they get that light in their eyes when they realize the truth but then lose it because of their fear of being wrong.

[@TheMormonInformant]

The argument was that those men weren't "sealed" by LDS priesthood to their wives, so their wives were still fair game in heaven. Their marriage was by "earthly authority," rather than by Joseph's "heavenly authority."

[@moorek1967]

Wow, you explained that one well. My goodness, people believe that?

[@TheMormonInformant]

It's hard to justify Joseph's actions otherwise.

[@noOlan_]

I was once Mormon. Thank you for this video for helping me out with this. I don’t know what to do now though. I am still a minor and living with my parents however I have not told them about how I lost my faith. I’m quite frankly scared and don’t know what to do. But thank you for making this video to help others like me find our way out of this church.

[@TheMormonInformant]

If you are just nervous about how it will affect your relationship, try asking your parents if they would still love you no matter what choices you made. If they struggle to answer this question, it might be wise to wait to tell them until they can assure you that their love is unconditional. If you are concerned that your parents might retaliate, make sure you are financially independent, have your own bank account, and ideally your own place before telling your parents anything. This will remove their power to punish or manipulate you. Let me know if you need any help or advice. No matter what happens, things will get better in the long run. :)

[@noOlan_]

@@karatekar5018 the problem I have with this is that I don’t believe god isn’t real I believe that there I s some sort of god out there like where not just here on this earth for no reason. Maybe we live in a simulation and our god is the one that made it or maybe it is just a controller of some sort just preparing us for what happens after earth. But all I believe now is that the Mormon church Is not the one I want to follow they have done some bad things major (for lack of a better term) ‘plot holes’ in what they believe and they manipulate the people in the church and I just don’t want to be part of that it’s not somthing I want to do and I just want to find my own path. With me leaving the church I have had so much joy that I haven’t felt before like real freedom. I have actual agency unlike when I was in the church. And I haven’t even officially left yet. This has all happened in my brain and now I don’t feel shameful for whatever I do like someone is always watching. Also the church has majorly damaged my mental health with all the extra activities and work I have to do like seminary and stress about what will happen if I go on a mission. And on top of exams and school and social stress it’s hard to deal with and it takes up a lot of my time. That’s why I don’t think it’s the right choice to find another way back to the church I’ve pondered, prayed, and studied about it and I’ve come to the conclusion that I can’t stay in this church

[@noOlan_]

@@ichbindavid5578 number 1: i didn’t ask to be advertised to by other religions that’s not why I made that comment. Number 2: right now religion isn’t what I’m looking for I don’t want to be put into a certain group of what I am supposed to do/believe plus I don’t think religion is a group I’m supposed to follow I think it’s something that me as a person should believe. I’m not saying what you believe is invalid I’m just saying I don’t want to be put into a box of what I can and can’t do and just live by treat other people well. I’ve gone to a Christian church and I have been ridiculed for my sexuality and the way I act and I just want to be my own person without being part of a group

[@noOlan_]

@@ichbindavid5578 thank you for that and clearing it up i will think about it but not certain

[@sharbear4248]

Oh man! It’s so hard. As a minor most of us lived with our parents & had to respect their rules. You’ll be an adult before you know it. I was in your shoes 30 years ago, pre-internet. Use the information you now have at your fingertips to your benefit. It’s a convenient tool to help you navigate relationships & explain things more succinctly by sharing a video like this one rather than trying to explain yourself. Have patience with your LDS family. We can’t expect them to shed a lifetime of indoctrination overnight. They’ll likely get defensive & upset initially. The most powerful thing we can do as former-Mormons is to be a good example & show our religious friends & loved ones that being a good person has nothing to do with religion. Common sense is inherent. We can trust ourselves to know right from wrong without an imaginary ghost, or 10% of our income. Best of luck! You’re not alone. There are a lot of resources if you want support.

[@jackstohlton922]

So I’m struggling with my faith, I feel like I should believe in Mormonism, and that it’s totally true but I’ve been doing some research and there’s a LOT more opposition than idk what the word is for that but there’s just more people saying it’s not true than are saying it is true. So I’ve been watching some videos and searching things such as: proof that Mormonism is real, and proof that Mormonism is fake, but I have no clue what I should do. I’m not going to quit yet I want to think it all the way through. And then decide, but there are going to be sever consequences in my family if I decide to leave, I know without a doubt I’m going to be shunned, and people are going to judge me, and my friends will stop talking to me, and maybe even some girls won’t date me just because I’m not mormon. I really just want to get to heaven, and I don’t know how to get there, maybe someone can help me? I believe in god, and I guess I should look through the Bible a bit to decide on if works will save me or just grace, I mean if religions worked based on what sounds appealing, then I’d be satisfied but sadly that’s not the case, I want to know the true doctrine and principles of Jesus Christ’s plan for me. If that means to continue to be mormon then that’s what I’ll do, can anyone help me? I’m not exactly ready to tell my family I’m not mormon and I’m also not ready to deny everything I’ve been taught. If I could have one wish, i wish i wasn’t born into a Mormon family so I could decide for my self. I also know that if I try to leave people are going to try to convince me to stay, and I don’t really want to hear it. I’m really close with all of my family and I really hope they don’t hate me if I leave. Maybe a firsthand spiritual experience? If I had one question to ask god, it’d be, “ which church is true?” Or something in that area, again I’m looking for people who can help me decide. Thank you

[@marshallelmer5123]

Im in the same boat. I go through stages where I wouldn't consider myself mormon and then I hear someone give a talk or something that makes me think that maybe I shouldn't listen to everything I hear online and maybe mormons are right. Ive been praying about it for so long and I have no idea what to do now. In the end you are the only one who can decide for yourself. Just try to listen to both sides and ,if possible, go online and try to find some ex mormons and some mormons who have really questioned there faith but continue to be mormon and I believe that you will find the truth. Sorry if that advice isn't very good because I am probably just as confused as you are.

[@markking8292]

Jack, you are doing right to face these facts that expose the deception of Mormonism. Have the courage to do that, and know that God loves you and sent his Son to save you. He wants you to know him. I believe it is the grace of God that has led you to this point of questioning. I would be glad to talk more with you.

[@csmitchell9918]

Jack, wow. I feel you. I grew up in Salt Lake, grew up mormon. Decided it wasn't for me, which caused many in my life to decide that I wasn't for them. CORRECTION: I decided that it wasn't for me which caused many in my life to have it decided FOR them that I wasn't for them. Meaning that they were all still my "friends" if no others were around. But if other "friends" were around then I was invisible or greatly shunned. I call this act one part of "mormoning". When you get 2 or more mormons together, they try very hard to "out=mormon" one another. Be true to yourself first and foremost. If your gut is telling you something's not quite right, don't dismiss it. Good luck to you.

[@ETHANshengin]

Don't turn to anti and negative people to help you make life choices. Talk to people who have what you want in your life.

[@DenverHarward]

I was a member until I was around 17 years old, and leaving was the best decision I ever made for myself. I'm happier now than I've ever been, and though my family was initially disappointed and reluctant to accept my decision, we have all moved past it for the most part and our bond is stronger than ever. Sometimes carving your own path is both the hardest and most rewarding decision you can make. I hope some of that helps, and I wish you the best of luck in whatever you decide to do :)

[@sophiawalker3330]

im mormon and am going through a crisis omg

[@mikkifrompreston]

it gets better :)

[@mikkifrompreston]

life is better on the outside :) trust me. When you look back after a few years it’s a breath of fresh air that you moved on :)

[@hcos8139]

God is a lie

[@pancytryna9378]

How are you doing?

[@TommySanders-tp3ob]

How is it going now I'm only 17

[@ellainegelizon4727]

I never really took being Mormon seriously. I kept wanting to go to church all because people were really nice and cool. As for the teachings I learned, they were pretty useful as you were basically taught to be a good person and to help others. The history with Joseph Smith n stuff like that never really made sense to me.

[@catlover1039]

That’s how I saw it too

[@staraptcraft185]

4:35 is the exact moment I decided to leave the church and became an atheist. That was over 3 years ago, and was one of the most important and significant moments of my life and would forever change me as a person. It's weird to know that in less than 5 minutes, this video had one of the most profound impacts on my life out of anything, and because of that it will always hold a place of significance.

[@staraptcraft185]

J J That's incredibly presumptuous of you to say that I will feel empty. I'm doing amazing in life right now, and I can say for certain I'm much happier than I otherwise would be had I not left.

[@Newnamejobe]

Im still waiting to see a Nephite sword.

[@warriorofgod1412]

Jesus is real but Joseph Smith was false prophet

[@foxtrot312]

I want to see too. At least show us the stone vault it came out of. It should be right there by the hill cumorah.

[@davidn.211]

@@warriorofgod1412 Jesus is real he cuts my grass.

[@justaladyj]

@@davidn.211 same

[@aud_balez]

I'm currently 14 and I know for a fact that I'm leaving the church, but my family is extremely faithful. My dad is in the bishopric in then church. I don't want to go to the temple, do missionary work, all that stuff. But I don't know how to tell my parents that. I feel like I'll let them down and they'll treat me differently. I'm also bisexual so I'm scared they'll be disappointed in me as well. Does anyone have advice? I'm really struggling.

[@12day1]

Lots of advice in the exmormon reddit group.

[@aud_balez]

@@meganh.5117 💚💚💚💚💚💚 we can get through this together!!

[@beastmode1435]

We have been born of goodly parents

[@mirpy6824]

same thing here but i’m 16, thankfully my dads not a member but he keeps his mouth shut and doesn’t know anything abt it. my moms relief society president and the church saved her from a bad situation. so she’s attached (that’s okay it’s her life) i’ve brought up the issues i have with the BOM and she said that it’s not the church, it’s the humans running it, she’ll find any way to excuse or work around the problems i’ve brought up😀🥲 anyways goodluck!!!

[@timmojennings]

Take a deep breath and tell them it will free you like nothing else in the world my man and do it as soon as possible get up the courage take that breath put those shoulders back get that chin up get that forehead up and just tell him I want out of the church forever

[@TomsSabbatical]

I left. I can't say it has been fun having my view on eternity shattered but the truth is always better than lies.No one should be scared if the truth.

[@aileenmcintosh2162]

It's a difficult, sometimes painful shift in reality, isn't it? But the grass truly is greener over here.

[@petemcallister4953]

Aileen McIntosh bet

[@AyubuKK]

Hope you’re well now.

[@thehermi]

Leaving and healing isn’t a single event. It’s a process. Happy you escaped.

[@Trevor_Fielding]

I’m lds, and I’m happy that I am. Obviously there’s not going to be answers for everything, but that’s okay. Being a member of this church makes me happy and that’s what life is about, it’s about being happy right??

[@TheMormonInformant]

Is it possible to find happiness outside of the LDS church?

[@catalyst3713]

So you're happy believing falsehoods?

[@waynelacroix8870]

There are answers for everything. You might not like those answers but they are there. Some things you have to search for yourself. Each person walks his own path. If you seek the truth with an open mind and heart you will find it. Put aside your emotions and deal with truth and facts. Truth can come from anywhere not just the church. Your search for truth can take years so do expect to have all your answers overnight! Seek out the true God while He can still be found.

[@birds_eye_view_1]

I love you dawg. I’m glad you have the light of the church in your life. It’s amazing how it makes you feel truly better than almost anything. I know exactly what you mean. Keep growing and flourishing :)

[@enigmaticvaran6597]

A movie was made that serves as an allegory to that mindset, called "The Matrix"

[@carsonbarlow348]

#46 blew my mind! 1.5 Billion on City Creek Mall > almost 20 years of humanitarian efforts! Super glad I'm not paying tithing any more!

[@TheMormonInformant]

+Samuel Pike And what is Property Reserve Inc? The church's commercial real-estate arm. Where does the church get the funds for this arm? Tithing, and returns on investments from speculating with tithing money. As Elder Holland said, *"There is no money in the Church except what our members offer.”* As far as how much the church does for others, the church donated 1.4 billion in humanitarian aid between 1985-2011, which is roughly 52 million a year, or about *$5 per member per year.* Where did the rest go? We can only speculate because *the church has not revealed their finances since 1959.*

[@TheMormonInformant]

@@randallN-sw6ee The church gets funds from its members, or from investing members money. Every penny the LDS church spends is either from tithing or interest earned on tithing-funded investments. Utah Property Management Associates and Property Reserve Inc are for-profit arms of the church funded by the members donations, and they spent 2 million to build City Creek.

[@ASideshowJourney]

I see very little wrong with 1. Cleaning up a blighted area in SLC, 2.Creating jobs downtown, 3. investing money so it can grow and eventually be used for more humanitarian work. In other words, you don't eat all your seeds and vegetables. You can some produce and keep a lot of viable seeds for the future. If you give all your seeds, and fresh vegetables to the hungry to help with the immediate need, you are not looking very far into the future.

[@arkieologist]

Carson Barlow Yeah FOR REAL.. 😳

[@arkieologist]

A Sideshow Journey Videos You see nothing wrong with a church spending members’ hard earned or much needed money to build a shopping mall in downtown Salt Lake City? To make a profit for themselves off of? Then I wonder how you function in day to day life refusing logic and reasoning.

[@bobhi2668]

So I guess mormons believe the bible as far as scholars "got inspiration" to correctly write it. I love how flexible words are when you don't care about what they actually mean.

[@clarksetters]

your right because men never get anything incorrect ever.

[@bobhi2668]

@@clarksetters That's why science is peer reviewed and based on empirical evidence...unlike any of Joseph's claims. There's also an argument to be made that a man who claims to be divinely inspired and directed should not make mistakes that leave giant gaping holes in his religious canon down the line. Especially when his title is "prophet".

[@clarksetters]

@@bobhi2668 So the Bible that was put together by men could never be incorrect because it was a consensus of what was thought correct at that time? So as long as it was a consensus or voted on is it is the truth even thought it might not of been.

[@bobhi2668]

@@clarksetters Science changes. also read: "empirical evidence".

[@sodapopinski14]

although i am not going to take any of this as fact, being a questioning Mormon... it concerns me. i would like decent well researched arguments AGAINST these claims, but members just testify of their faith in the church instead of logical counter arguments against these facts. It’s all so confusing, and i feel like i’m being emotionally pulled in different directions

[@TheMormonInformant]

I'm happy to provide sources for any claim that you have questions about. I'm also willing to link you to the relevant faithful response. Whatever you want to discuss, I'm here to assist.

[@sodapopinski14]

Oliver Ash i’m actually subscribed to them. do they respond to comments?

[@sodapopinski14]

The Mormon Informant honestly all of them would be awesome for more information from both sides, but specifically the multiple interpretations of the first vision thing? that would be helpful :)

[@TheMormonInformant]

www.mormonthink.com/firstvisionweb.htm www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/first-vision-accounts?lang=eng en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Vision#Comparison_of_written_accounts

[@abdelrahmanhbahbeh2093]

I just have one question that I want answered so bad, maybe this my fault for underestimating the human mind but how is it possible for a Mormon to watch this and remain Mormon? Like how does Mormonism still exist when this video exists??

[@scottkittleson944]

"People don't have ideas, ideas have people." -Carl Jung

[@nicktt800]

This is a great recap of the CES Letter, which can be a lot to read. I recommend reading that after seeing this to get more details into each topic.

[@PandaEric]

Thank you for this. This has stopped me from joining the Church. I wish all missionaries could view this and all your videos before their mission.

[@TheMormonInformant]

That's exactly why I made it. I knew none of this information before going on a mission, and had to hear the truth about my faith from outsiders. I'm glad you could make an informed decision, and wish you all the best. :)

[@PandaEric]

@@TheMormonInformant Thank you for everything you do! I deeply appreciate your videos!

[@pecerepa4286]

@@TheMormonInformant it is good you make your videos and express your voice but you're wrong my dear friend.

[@TheMormonInformant]

@@pecerepa4286 Name one thing I said that was wrong.

[@pecerepa4286]

@@TheMormonInformant all

[@tyg4262]

I firmly believe in looking at both sides of an argument, which brought me to this video. Although I still will remain a member of the church, I appreciate the calm manner in which you address each point :)

[@TheMormonInformant]

I respect your choice, and appreciate that you took the time to hear me out.

[@beatty7487]

@@TheMormonInformant wow funny how old this video is. And you're still replying to comments lol

[@TheMormonInformant]

@@beatty7487 Why is that funny?

[@fodolocraigo8426]

how is that funny? don't you get notifications?

[@phanto6599]

Same here but I like this little test of faith. Its driving me to proof this dude wrong (no offense) and I'm looking forward to the challenge

[@Cincy32]

Ok, I'm a 33 year old disgruntled Catholic & for the first time I've been looking at LDS seriously. After watching this, these are the ones that are red flags to me. 4:57 Numbers 25 & 26, the spirit summoning, #35 at 6:41 the Free Mason connections. I will show those to the missionaries when I see them Sunday.

[@luckydragonbb]

I would like to make a correction, the church spent 1.5 billion from 1985-2011. Which is 26 years, not the 20 mentioned. That is about 58 million per year. Meaning they spent less than 10% on something they demand their own members to do. Also that the church made 1.5 billion off it's for profit business in 1991 alone. That can be found here www.deseretnews.com/article/170647/LDS-CHURCH-REAL-ESTATE-HOLDINGS-INCLUDE-FARMS-RANCHES-BUILDINGS.html?pg=all

[@ElizabethBSoCal]

Interesting information. Not a Mormon but I know many. I never argue religion with them, but I am fascinated to learn about it, as well as other religions.

[@leighcowley9869]

Then learn facts not a bunch of crap. I’ve been LDS all my life. There was a time I didn’t believe in anything but I had several spiritual experiences that I cannot deny. If I did deny them I would be in the judgement of God. I don’t expect you or anyone to believe me. I have spent nearly forty years in research of church history. I will tell you this that anyone and that is on both sides only writes their perception. You have to sift through all of it to even get a closer look at what may have really happened. Critics of the church have only one agenda. That is destroy a persons faith. If they can place doubts in that persons mind that is half the battle. I have found answers to every claim presented by critics. But many people don’t want to spend the time. The restoration took place and there are living prophets today. I have had to many confirmations to say other wise. It’s up to each individual to search for the truth. Now why someone would search for truth from those who are committed to destroy it is beyond me. If I wanted to find out about the real you would I go to someone that hated your guts? How much truth would be in what they told me. Not much.

[@ethansowards2323]

“Yours isn’t true because mine is true!” “No, yours isn’t true because mine is!” Said every one to ever live since ever.

[@TheMormonInformant]

It helps that Mormonism makes so many claims that are very easily proven false.

[@ethansowards2323]

@@TheMormonInformant your gay

[@TheMormonInformant]

@@ethansowards2323 You're a homophobe.

[@theinvisibleme4104]

@@ethansowards2323 oh what an insult!!!!

[@ethansowards2323]

@@theinvisibleme4104 it wasn’t suppose to be? I thought he really was.

[@kimballray6631]

I came across this video as a faithful member 5 years ago at the age of 15, and it was the beginning of the end. After being exposed to the truth, it was only a matter of time before I discovered the rabbit hole of the church’s turbulent and fraudulent history. I just wanted to come back to this video to express my gratitude for the work you’ve done to bring the truth to light - you legitimately changed the course of my life, and I’m sure many others as well. Even though I was only in the church for a relatively brief period of my life it left so many emotional scars, and I lost a community that was a cornerstone to my existence. To anyone going through a faith crisis right now, you’re not alone. Don’t be afraid to seek the truth from all sources and ask difficult questions.

[@philbrooks5979]

There are literally hundreds of problems but since it's members rely on feelings, not logic, it means nothing to them.

[@matthewnehorai8056]

You cant logicise your way through the church, or any religion for that matter.

[@gustav8951]

Actually nowadays marrying multiple people in the mormon Church is extremely ”forbidden”

[@TheMormonInformant]

Not if the first one is dead. Both Dallin H. Oaks and Russel M. Nelson are sealed to a second wife after the death of the first, meaning they are sealed to two women. This is allowed by the church Handbook of Instruction.

[@TheKyleAye]

I've been reading these recent comments from mormons claiming this video is full of lies lol This video is awesome! Very well done and points out the straight facts. Don't stop defending this video! Your replies are legendary

[@juneholley1813]

I am a believing member of this church. My neighbor recently left the church which was so shocking. We are very good friends and she confided in me some of her reasons. She sent me to your video for a summery of things that I should to research. I will admit I am very confused and skeptical after watching this, but will look into these issues.

[@TheMormonInformant]

This is only a quick overview of the issues. To see detailed evidence for all of these claims, as well as citations, read the original source at cesletter.org.

[@juneholley1813]

@@TheMormonInformantThank you. I will look.

[@channelremoved32]

good luck with your research. i hope you end up doing what you think is right

[@juneholley1813]

@@TheMormonInformant On Sunday I asked my Bishop to release me from my calling and told him I am no longer paying tithing. I feel like I am living in a dream and I am scared.

[@TheMormonInformant]

@@juneholley1813 I'm sorry that this process is so jarring. It took me a year to figure myself out after I learned these things. I can recommend some online or in person support groups if you're interested, and I'm here if there's any way I can help. You're not alone.

[@Jacob-gi7xl]

Thanks for doing what you do bro. I hope this will show people to be more open to the truth. Rather than blindly following a belief that abuses the feeling you get when you believe in these ideas.

[@mikez1114]

This is a quick and excellent summary of many problems the Church has.Nice work!

[@celiacastellanos4040]

I have had 2 mormons every week at my home trying to convince my husband and I to study with them... I honestly do not like it.

[@2002MX5]

My friend used to invite them in when they came around and logically destroy every point they made until he had one of them sobbing. So, they would send officials of the church next time, and he destroyed them too. Eventually, they stopped coming. True story.

[@WinWin-pc6iw]

These are all very valid questions, and it is disturbing that the LDS church is not addressing them

[@the_last_slice9041]

They've started to address them over the last six years or so. I suspect it is because they can't hide them anymore-there has been a shift from hiding inconvenient facts to trying to control the narrative around them. They haven't been terribly successful, though they don't necessarily need to be to be effective.

[@serenaj5230]

I’ve been in the church my whole life. Many different wards, and branches. Many classes. And I’ve never heard one person say anything bad about any other religion. Pretty sad that I see all these comments hating on the people who still go to this church. I get it, you guys think this video is true, just don’t go after the members. Everyone has different beliefs. Respect that.

[@TheMormonInformant]

"I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that *all their creeds were an abomination in his sight;* that those professors were all corrupt; that: "they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof." -Joseph Smith

[@young_ll8410]

Ur right i love the church ..and no video on youtube can change that .i dont care abt all wat you say ...i knw that what we learn at the church of jesus christ of later day saints is true ....and am very greatful and glad to be a member ..in jesus name amen

[@nw4529]

@@young_ll8410 That's what brainwashing does to you.

[@OO-xs7fo]

I stopped believing in the church last year when I was only fourteen, the suppression and controlling mindset of the church became so hard to handle, constantly being told I was a lesser gender because I'm a woman and that my only purpose in life is to serve my husband and birth children felt terrible, I felt guilty for wanting a career, wanting to have a real relationship instead of getting married two months after I meet someone, or not wanting to ever have children, all this guilt and constant repression made me eventually resort in self harm and attempted suicide. This was the same deal with my close friends and it ruined us. Having to feel that kind of guilt and self hate at such a young age changed us forever. This was all simply because we were told that is being normal people following human nature was a sin. For most including myself, you will be rejected by your family and friends if you leave the church, you will have to create a whole new life for yourself and learn how to live. I'm very happy that I could come to this conclusion at such a young age but some people aren't as lucky, I think it's important to state these facts and create more awareness to toxic religion so that we as a society can grow. I'm not saying having religion Is bad, for some people it makes them very happy but personally I find it terrible. For now, like many others out there, I'm just waiting till I'm 18 so that I can finally escape this toxic work I live in. Sorry for making you read a whole essay and thank you🙂

[@gabbyschmidt5036]

im in the same situation. 17 currently. my parents are still forcing me to church and church activities. ive suffered with depression most most life from not feeling accepted by my family. they tell me “you cant be sad” while im at home because it “ruins” the spirit in the home. so they want me to olen up to them about questions I have and concerns, but they get upset when I get sad. id love to talk to you about your journey!!

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@gabbyschmidt5036 Gabby, I used to be a bishop and have seen your experience with others. I am so sorry. Talk to your bishop and/or parents and see if you can get professional counseling and medications. It can really help you regardless of whether or not you remain in the church. Also being a parent is hard; it's on-the-job training for most; some do it better than others; And to be honest, parents have a lot of emotional, mental, spiritual issues themselves. Wishing you the best.

[@gabbyschmidt5036]

@@michaeldenova4562 the hard thing is, my parents dont believe in medical, professional, psychological help. they dont think they have any issues, and they believe its better to just “ignore” what upsets you. when in reality, they are in denial of their own feelings. its so mentally draining and yes I know not all parents are the greatest and they might just be trying their best, but my parents have never even said sorry for what they have done to me. they dont even realize what they have done wrong. they refuse to admit the fact that they have been too strict on me and that they favored (and still do favor) my siblings in any situation over myself. its so frustration to be in this environment where you have to sit and watch the extreme trauma that is occurring right before your eyes. some religious people dont realize the danger that comes with religion when you dont raise you kid right in it. its horrifying and my parents choices have ruined my life. now, at 17, I have to pick myself up without my parents respect and validation. that hurts me so much as a child.

[@michaeldenova4562]

@@gabbyschmidt5036 Thanks for the reply Gabby. Your situation is not very good. It's hard to think of anything encouraging to say. However, you seem to be very self-aware and insightful which will help you heal. Luckily, you are still young and hopefully with time you can recover. It won't be easy and maybe the best you will be able to do is "manage" the damage done by the trauma. Gabby, you write very well. You need to keep a journal. It will help you and I think you will be able to refer back to it to help others who have similar situations. Some of the best teachers and therapists are those who have had real life experiences and have empathy. Best wishes to you.

[@gabbyschmidt5036]

@@michaeldenova4562 thank you! people like you help me going and you are so encouraging. thank you for the kind words. I do love the meme era of the church, most of them are incredibly beautiful and kind people. thank you! have a good one.

[@knittingnana2939]

I grew up in southern idaho which is a hotbed of Mormonism . Having studied that religion , i have this to say: it is a religion created by men and it is about money, sex and power-not necessarily in that order. The more you learn about it, the more preposterous it gets. Finally , the thing i find the most reprehensible is the baptism for the dead. You cant even escape them when you die.

[@melg.8298]

How come?? Were you a member?

[@knittingnana2939]

@@melg.8298 i was not a member but i was being pressured into joining.

[@melg.8298]

@@knittingnana2939 pressured?? Im kinda curious cuz you said everything it's about money, sex and power.. who told you that? I'm not here to judge cuz that's not what we do.

[@knittingnana2939]

@@melg.8298 look, i grew up with Mormons , 75% of my school was mormon and i had missionaries at my door constantly and for a time in my life, i seriously considered it, i was invited to church, told to watch conference on tv, etc. And the more i looked into it, the more preposterous it became. No pressure ? Really? You guys believe what you want to believe, and the church dictates everything.

[@melg.8298]

@@knittingnana2939 We are not mormons. We are Christians too and we dont believe in what we want to believe. We believe in God, his son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost so I hope you are not judging us wrongly based on the information you have gathered. We all have free agency and if something misled you, and I totally get you b/c I'm a convert. I worked my way through it too. And im happy where am at;) if you made that decision, it's okay, not here to judge cuz we all r children of God anyways. He is the only one who judges.