What's the Difference between Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses?

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@exjwpandatower
@exjwpandatower 8 ай бұрын
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@hyp77
@hyp77 8 ай бұрын
They are both dangerous and brainwashed.
@unholywarrior9007
@unholywarrior9007 7 ай бұрын
Do jw really believe Jahova God has no body ?
@Darkness-ie2yl
@Darkness-ie2yl 4 ай бұрын
one is true and the other has magical underwear
@b_radbrad8899
@b_radbrad8899 Ай бұрын
Can you consider doing on SDA and Jehovah witnesses. I see them is very much the same.
@bartonbagnes4605
@bartonbagnes4605 Ай бұрын
You got a few small yet important details wrong in connection to The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints (Mormon), though there are a few very different groups called Mormons. First off, Joseph Smith Jr. wasn't told by God the Father nor Jesus Christ to find Golden Plates, that was a few years later by the Angel of God named Moroni. Joseph Smith Jr. did not write The Book Of Mormon, or even dictate it, he dictated the translation from the Golden Plates that God gave him power to understand. And it wasn't his friends with Joseph Smith Jr. who practiced polygamy, like Abraham, Jacob, Moses and David under the permission and guidance of God, only those called by God could practice polygamy in this church, and were free to refuse like any other calling. During the 50 years or so that polygamy was practiced, only 5% of men, and 25-50% of women were involved. Anyone practicing without being commanded by God were Excommunicated from the church if they didn't repent. Joseph Smith Jr. only took on political positions as needed, until his run for President, campaigning to end Slavery, the first religious leader in America to publicly do so. "Mormons" settled most of the Western United States of America.
@saxontornow2202
@saxontornow2202 Ай бұрын
Hey, ex Mormon here. One correction I have is that the salt lake temple isn’t the “main temple” it’s just the most iconic.
@calvo1002
@calvo1002 Ай бұрын
Hey, do you know where is the main temple?
@avad.3899
@avad.3899 Ай бұрын
@@calvo1002i don’t believe there is a main temple
@robwilliams2265
@robwilliams2265 Ай бұрын
It is the only one where the first presidency in quorum of the 12 apostles meet weekly. So I would pretty much say that would make it the "Main" temple. I understand what you're saying in that they claim that each temple resides The ability to perform the same ordinances and has the same authority to do so, yet with I believe only one other Temple having a holy of holies, and it being the only one that all the leaders meet in on the constant basis, I would call it the main one. But just my opinion
@Ballin4Vengeance
@Ballin4Vengeance Ай бұрын
@@calvo1002I’m not sure if such a thing is. In function at least. Catholics have the St Peter’s Basilica in Rome f.e., which is significant, but in function or ecclesial hierarchy it’s not different from any other basilica in the world. Just that it’s the most iconic+where the pope lives. Same with the Salt Lake City Temple.
@tinman3586
@tinman3586 Ай бұрын
The Salt Lake Temple is actually the "main" Temple in the sense that it is the only one that has a "Holy of Holies", is the only one where live endowment sessions are preformed, and the only one where the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve meet. It was also, for a time, the only place where Second Anointings were performed.
@lukespacewolf
@lukespacewolf 8 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic video! I was raised very casually Mormon and my immediate family converted to Jehovah's Witnesses later on. So glad to be free from both cults, and it's fascinating to learn more about both
@matthewfarrell6822
@matthewfarrell6822 4 ай бұрын
both?
@lukespacewolf
@lukespacewolf 4 ай бұрын
@@matthewfarrell6822 yup, both
@matthewfarrell6822
@matthewfarrell6822 4 ай бұрын
well define cult because we CLEARLY are not as bad as the JW's@@lukespacewolf
@twipo912
@twipo912 2 ай бұрын
please don't misuse the term cult. cults are full of only evil and both these religions are full of people trying to help others. look at that actual cults and you will see that neither of these fit the bill.
@lukespacewolf
@lukespacewolf 2 ай бұрын
@@twipo912 I do not use the word cult lightly and I am correct in using it here. Even the more well known cults like Johnstown were also full of people simply wanting to do good and find truth. That's how abusive control works. The followers are victims, used as pawns to spread the influence of the abusive, bigoted and even violent leaders. I will not sugarcoat my words about cults, not after all the suicides, human sacrifices (via refusal of blood transfusions), traumatizing LDS wilderness camps and even the murders.
@kendallw-rn6rm
@kendallw-rn6rm Ай бұрын
a small point in the video, but the way you touched on the mormon heavenly mother opened my eyes. my mom always told me that we dont speak of her because if we did people would use her name in vain, but if that was true, why wouldnt we do the same for heavenly father? none of it makes sense anymore. i cant wait to leave.
@georgerafa5041
@georgerafa5041 Ай бұрын
God bless you. Gtfo of that nonsense asap. I hope you find Christ for real and not the heretical nonsense made to scam dumbass peasants and losers in the 1800s
@OntheOtherHandVideos
@OntheOtherHandVideos Ай бұрын
Yes, that's a common 'reason' people within the Church of Jesus Christ can hold - but it is something of an old wives tale. To quote Elder Renlund: "Very little has been revealed about Mother in Heaven, but what we do know is summarized in a gospel topic found in our Gospel Library application. Once you have read what is there, you will know everything that I know about the subject. I wish I knew more. You too may still have questions and want to find more answers. Seeking greater understanding is an important part of our spiritual development, but please be cautious. Reason cannot replace revelation." Hope that helps! I find the Gospel to make a lot of sense, so if you want to talk out any other issues you see I'd be happy to. Either way, have a good one!
@theEpicxY
@theEpicxY Ай бұрын
In the words of Jesus Christ the living. "If your leaders say into you, see the kingdom of God is in the sky, then the birds of heaven shall precede you. If they say into you see the kingdom is in the sea! Then the fish shall precede you. Rather the kingdom is within you and it is without you.
@georgerafa5041
@georgerafa5041 Ай бұрын
@@OntheOtherHandVideos nobody wants to hear you ramble about your silly polygamist cult and their ongoing PR attempts. Seek true faith
@zeminoid
@zeminoid 22 күн бұрын
And not only that but according to mormo theology, although mother of Mormon Jesus, she's just one wife to the ''heavenly father'' as he has multiple other wives.
@jacobtamminga5560
@jacobtamminga5560 3 ай бұрын
orthodox christian here. Generally we consider neither mormons nor JWs christian because their doctrine is so divergent from christianity. Been enjoying the videos, thank you for suffering through all this for us!
@jaimetolley2375
@jaimetolley2375 2 ай бұрын
ex mormon here, believe me the deeper you dive into mormonism the less Christian it gets 😅. Their really just a polytheistic religion lossly based on the bible. Ironically Jewdaism and islam feel more Christian. Mormons who say they're Christian usually dont really understand orthodox christianity, and like their core attributes. Its not just about the trinity. So very valid my dude.
@melissapinol7279
@melissapinol7279 Ай бұрын
It does look kind of weird from the outside when various different groups that call themselves Christians are always saying that they are the only true Christian church and everyone else isn't Christian. It doesn't show a lot of unity. There is a hymn that goes "we pray that our unity will someday be restored".
@connorhart7597
@connorhart7597 Ай бұрын
​@jaimetolley2375 most Christians are actually polytheistic as well, although they would never accept that title. There's no WAY they'd accept a label that's also used for those "silly" mythological religions lmfao
@jacobtamminga5560
@jacobtamminga5560 Ай бұрын
@@connorhart7597 please explain. How are most christians polytheist?
@connorhart7597
@connorhart7597 Ай бұрын
@jacobtamminga5560 believing that the trinity is made up of 3 separate entities who serve different purposes/are in a hierarchy of sorts. It's not all denominations, but its quite a few of the more common ones
@johnhewitt7356
@johnhewitt7356 8 ай бұрын
At time stamp 21:50 minutes the children sing about going to Bethel. The children sing happily, the music is upbeat, and it is called the happiest time they had. Of course, it is the only non preaching vacation a JW family will ever have. For JWs, even if they can afford a vacation, which most can’t because they are suppose to live “modestly”, giving all they can to the organization, they are required or requested to check in to the local congregation in the area they go to,so they can continue with the weekly meetings and preaching work which is to maintain their good standing in the organization. They are never able to get off the hamster wheel, which is a control measure for these high control cults.
@ceroandone
@ceroandone 8 ай бұрын
Bethel = Paedophile House
@shellyb5014
@shellyb5014 Ай бұрын
I was raised JW and went on vacation yearly, if not more. We visited bethel once while visiting NYC.
@emilyectoplasm
@emilyectoplasm Ай бұрын
Same. Many times a year, actually.
@katrinamcintosh3565
@katrinamcintosh3565 Ай бұрын
You are totally incorrect.
@patrickkelmer6290
@patrickkelmer6290 25 күн бұрын
Social control up to 11.
@motherofthetans
@motherofthetans Ай бұрын
I'm an atheist (raised Lutheran) and it doesn't bother me at all when the LDS missionaries show up on my porch 😊 But for some reason, the JWs make me livid and I've never been able to figure out why. I think it's because the LDS guys show up like mid afternoon to early evening and the JWs show up at like eight on Saturday morning. Anyway, great video, thank you!
@emperorpalpatine1228
@emperorpalpatine1228 Ай бұрын
Every LDS/Mormon I've interacted with has been nothing but pleasant, but the Jehovah's Witnesses have been the complete opposite. A good friend of mine had neighbors who were JW and they were always rude, hostile & standoffish and rarely speak to anyone outside of the JW Church.
@flutenanyidk1806
@flutenanyidk1806 Ай бұрын
As an ex Mormon, if you don’t want to hear them talk, I beg of you please talk to those boys about video games. They aren’t allowed to participate in any media or hobbies not related to the church for two whole years. Asking them what video games or movies they liked at home will remind them they have a personality outside of the religion.
@hypepotatoe
@hypepotatoe Ай бұрын
Ex-mormon, once got punched a in the back on my mission by a guy that thought we were the JW's that had been knocking on his door early in the morning lol
@fragorico7820
@fragorico7820 5 ай бұрын
I'm LDS so can't speak from a JW point of view but I found your video impartial and pretty accurate in most places. You also done a really good job of lacing it with a bit of humour too. Thank you for posting.
@DougVandegrift
@DougVandegrift 2 ай бұрын
The thing active members of LDS should keep in mind: There's Two histories in the Mormon Church. There's the "official history" that the modern day leaders put out in their teachings, books, videos, etc. AND THEN there's the true history of events. Only in the past 20 years has the "official church history" started to include yesterday's anti-mormon lies such polygamy, Adam-God Doctrine, Racism, etc. So when active members come on comment boards and say "Well, you got most correct" You have to ask, is the active member only referring to the modern "official narrative" put out by the church? Non members will often look at what the current historic record shows which has conflicts in the official history. So I'd be interest in what this commenter means when they say "Accurate in most places" and give us some example found in this video.
@movieeastwood2341
@movieeastwood2341 2 ай бұрын
Repent and submit to Rome!
@marstothestars33
@marstothestars33 Ай бұрын
@movieeastwood2341 Repent and submit to Christ.
@gabby-ue8sh
@gabby-ue8sh Ай бұрын
@@marstothestars33 the apostles were roman catholic, submit to rome
@marstothestars33
@marstothestars33 Ай бұрын
@@gabby-ue8sh No, they weren't. Also, if you are a fellow Christian, you should find nothing wrong with the statement "submit to Christ." That is, unless you think man-made structures are of a higher authority than God himself.
@daniellima2973
@daniellima2973 2 ай бұрын
I was raised Mormon , served a mission, served in leadership and was married in the temple . Being raised Mormon was a great way to grown up. I think being raised JW is much harder and isolating.
@paulaward2075
@paulaward2075 2 ай бұрын
I'm a Baptist, but i've been going to the LDS church lately. Would you recommend becoming a Mormon? Why or why not?
@xanthezen310
@xanthezen310 2 ай бұрын
@@paulaward2075Mormons aren’t Christian. A lot of their beliefs are heresy
@ethanmorse9148
@ethanmorse9148 2 ай бұрын
@David19746 Not because we believe that the bible is less legitimate fundamentally, we just believe that the book of mormon is a more pure and true version of the gospel as it has been translated from one record one time (according to our beliefs)
@georgerafa5041
@georgerafa5041 Ай бұрын
​@@paulaward2075you need to stop following charismatic faiths and learn some history. The true church existed since Christ's time on earth.
@basictrainer
@basictrainer Ай бұрын
@@paulaward2075go watch a leaked temple video. If you’re still thinking about it, I don’t know what to tell you. Also the only people that go to “hell” in Mormon believe are apostates or ex-Mormons. It’s a friggin cult dude
@AriasSaavedra
@AriasSaavedra 8 ай бұрын
Not a big fan of the Mormon church but im a fan of their Choir
@LunaQuads
@LunaQuads 4 ай бұрын
I’m LDS and the choir teacher at my school is in the choir
@jeffnoble9757
@jeffnoble9757 Ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of Jesus Freaks either
@nicolasbascunan4013
@nicolasbascunan4013 Ай бұрын
best choirs are in the Catholic music.
@jeffnoble9757
@jeffnoble9757 Ай бұрын
The mountain meadows massacre, mormon's MURDERED men, women and CHILDREN, ALL the founding fathers were WOMANIZERS
@littledrummergirl_19
@littledrummergirl_19 25 күн бұрын
@@nicolasbascunan4013you got that right! Though the tabernacle choir is definitely talented, their rendition of oh Shenandoah is my favorite
@stevenquiroz9556
@stevenquiroz9556 4 ай бұрын
As a catholic tbh mormons are not that bad(there may be some) my friend is lds, she cool & me and her would always have conversations abt our religions & we would blow each other's minds from what we learn from each others religion.
@Sirmisfits1
@Sirmisfits1 3 ай бұрын
Any person from any religion can be really chill, the religion they associated can not tho keep that in mind.
@kongstrong88
@kongstrong88 7 күн бұрын
We have nothing to learn from false religions
@magicalpasta5462
@magicalpasta5462 4 ай бұрын
Tbh I'm dating a Mormon and he is actually a very good person who never tried to convert me bc he doesn't want to control me and my believes. His family also never tried to convert me into their religion, all they cared about was his well-being and happiness. The same with him around him and my friends, he doesn't talk about religion much. And he finds the South Park episode very funny
@cheesesnadwich815
@cheesesnadwich815 Ай бұрын
youre very lucky
@alfomo6670
@alfomo6670 Ай бұрын
Wish you two all the best
@prkp7248
@prkp7248 Ай бұрын
Just because he "don't want to" now, it doesn't mean that he will not do it later.
@magicalpasta5462
@magicalpasta5462 Ай бұрын
@@prkp7248 he doesn't want to control me and manipulate me like my exes
@gauthierlagrange490
@gauthierlagrange490 Ай бұрын
@@magicalpasta5462 Good for you! Are you religious in any way? Usually these groups accept people like Christians more openly than straight up atheist that’s why I’m wondering. Also, did you ever talk about having kids and if yes, how do you plan to handle their education in that regard?
@bread64
@bread64 2 ай бұрын
I was raised mormon and i am longer mormon but my church was more accepting of stuff and our pastor told us just treat others how you want to be treated and so on
@spencersivertson9321
@spencersivertson9321 28 күн бұрын
Pastor? Are you talking about a different church because mormons don’t have pastors.
@TheGreatAydini
@TheGreatAydini 18 күн бұрын
​@@spencersivertson9321maybe he's thinking of Bishops
@bread64
@bread64 6 күн бұрын
@@spencersivertson9321 sorry I messed up the names
@SeattlePioneer
@SeattlePioneer 4 күн бұрын
That sounds vague. Don't believe in much at all, then, apparently. As an atheist, one feature of religion and churches is the ability to have values that lead people to have successful lives and raise good children. But it seems your church really doesn't believe enough of anything to do that with much success.
@sethjohnson5704
@sethjohnson5704 8 ай бұрын
Why do Kingdom Halls never have windows? At least not in my area, I’ve always found it odd
@2PastNeptune
@2PastNeptune 8 ай бұрын
That is a great question. The old Halls were built with small windows at the very top. At least the one I grew up did. But that was the only one I’ve ever seen.
@ppgranja3
@ppgranja3 8 ай бұрын
I believe it has something to do with the Armaggedon. They believe that they will be protected from the fire when earth burns at the last day. Kingdom halls will be their refuge places.
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 8 ай бұрын
They'll tell you it's for security. I think it's so people don't get distracted and stare out the windows.
@sethjohnson5704
@sethjohnson5704 8 ай бұрын
@@cygnustsp that makes sense, aligns with the comment from @2PastNeptune as well
@freespirit3891
@freespirit3891 8 ай бұрын
​@@2PastNeptunewhen I was in, our kh did have high up windows. But our city building codes require X amount of square footage of the floor for light and ventilation. (I believe it was 15%) If the windows were sealed type, the ventilation system also needed to be approved by city. The real reason for high windows was that they didn't want you looking out the windows when you got bored, high windows mean you can't see what's going on out in the world. 😢
@calanm7880
@calanm7880 8 ай бұрын
The little sound effects make me so happy.
@tummelplatz763
@tummelplatz763 8 ай бұрын
300 billion dollars
@slayerdearly
@slayerdearly 8 ай бұрын
For what?
@Chrisjay-yw2cu
@Chrisjay-yw2cu 2 ай бұрын
Actually the church is worth 245 billion
@affinityxs
@affinityxs Ай бұрын
what will they do with all that money? buy private jets and fancy cribs?
@Chrisjay-yw2cu
@Chrisjay-yw2cu Ай бұрын
No they use the money for private purposes such as temples and meeting halls..
@BerryBoyXD
@BerryBoyXD 20 күн бұрын
@@affinityxs humanitarian aid, temples, paying for all the utilities of buildings like meeting houses or temples. $265 billion is everything, including assets, and temples are expensive, and so if operating them and the roughly 31k congregatons.
@RealPumpkinJay
@RealPumpkinJay 8 ай бұрын
They won’t show up at my doorstep uninvited. They do get nervous about the “No trespassing” signs in the middle of nowhere and a half mile from my house (which cannot be seen from the road). We’ve had Mormons over due to a family member being one of them.
@Eric_01
@Eric_01 8 ай бұрын
I don't know, I've been in service quite a lot in the rural areas and most of them couldn't give a sh!t about a no trespassing sign. A driveway or sidewalk is public access. Now, opening someone's gate is a different matter, I'll grant that.
@thetruthk5138
@thetruthk5138 8 ай бұрын
​@@Eric_01Well as long as you can count your time ;-)
@RealPumpkinJay
@RealPumpkinJay 8 ай бұрын
@@Eric_01 So far I’ve had them write letters, but nobody has walked past 2 cattle gates into an area that’s potentially having people live there in the middle of nowhere. I’d be tickled pink, but they won’t stop here.
@pascalfriedmann1479
@pascalfriedmann1479 2 ай бұрын
I think this is overall not an unfair representation of the LDS faith. What I think is a much bigger difference between JW and LDS (at least in my understanding) is how members of both groups interact with the world and especially former members. There is a thirst among LDS for friendship with people who are different that just isn't found anywhere in JW. And shunning isn't really a thing. The fact that probably more than half of LDS members don't attend (at least not often) and there is no real expectation of something bad happening to them eternally is quite a bit more in line with the view of mainline Christian churches than it is with JW
@georgerafa5041
@georgerafa5041 Ай бұрын
There's plenty of shunning in LDS world. My family was outraged when I told them I was correcting my mother's mistakes and taking my kids back to Catholicism (I was born LDS but have found God after leaving that creepy Utah nonsense)
@OntheOtherHandVideos
@OntheOtherHandVideos Ай бұрын
@@georgerafa5041 And any shunning is actively taught against in the Church of Jesus Christ.
@BerryBoyXD
@BerryBoyXD 20 күн бұрын
@@georgerafa5041 Ofc it was in Utah bro, I'm a mormon in AZ and lots of people agree that most of the crazy fanatical members come from/live in Utah.
@georgerafa5041
@georgerafa5041 19 күн бұрын
@@OntheOtherHandVideos that's nice. So what do they teach in Mormonism?
@georgerafa5041
@georgerafa5041 19 күн бұрын
@@BerryBoyXD ya that totally makes a difference! I'm a SoCal native and live in Prescott now but what do I know
@scotwm1789
@scotwm1789 8 ай бұрын
At 19.54, you mention the beauty of Mormon Temples. The beautiful temple in Oakland, CA has a very unique feature: It is the only temple with 5 spires. High up in the Oakland hills, this temple provides spectacular views of the San Francisco Bay area and I visit several times a year on clear days and nights. Watching 4th of July fireworks from up there is a special treat.
@LumaSloth
@LumaSloth 2 ай бұрын
How do you visit it? Are you a mormon?
@erikplaysdrunk9024
@erikplaysdrunk9024 10 күн бұрын
This was very enlightening. Growing up in the Midwest there was never much differentiation between the two groups.
@kenkensson
@kenkensson 8 ай бұрын
As an exjw its always interesting to find out info on other cults so it would be a fun to see more videos on this theme. Keep upp the good work Panda.🤘
@2PastNeptune
@2PastNeptune 8 ай бұрын
Same
@2PastNeptune
@2PastNeptune 8 ай бұрын
Wow. You taught me a lot . Thx for all you do. Truly appreciate ya.
@rgnyc
@rgnyc 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for this. I've now watched a few of your clips, and have decided to Subscribe. Fascinating!
@ianbennett1491
@ianbennett1491 8 ай бұрын
Both are dangerous controlling Cults. Avoid like the plague.
@rigafamilyaccount8158
@rigafamilyaccount8158 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Really enjoyed it
@shout6892
@shout6892 Ай бұрын
Charles Taze Russell and Joseph Smith were in a competition who could make the more outrageous heresy
@shout6892
@shout6892 Ай бұрын
and both of them did israelite-larp, one calling God the Father "Jehovah" and the other wanting to establish "Zion"
@ThrillzTheGreatest
@ThrillzTheGreatest Ай бұрын
At least Mormons can build cool churches and temples and have nice sounding choirs. I don’t think Jehovah’s witnesses can do that.
@Trayleen
@Trayleen Ай бұрын
Well, JWs have cute drawings of happy people while Mormons have cringy family reality shows 😂.
@reddeer1758
@reddeer1758 4 ай бұрын
Could you do a video about 7 Day Adventists please?
@Aric-ln4gw
@Aric-ln4gw 7 ай бұрын
As a Mormon, your description was fair. The only thing materially incorrect was that our prophets and apostles do not claim to be infallible. Joseph Smith said that a prophet is only a prophet when acting in his formal calling. They can and do make mistakes. We now admit that we were wrong in the past (racism and other historical claims) and that all men are products of their time.
@blight0350
@blight0350 7 ай бұрын
Racism hasn't been removed, they still have the dumb story that God is turning people's skin black to make them less attractive... 😂 The last missionaries I spoke with even tried to defend it lol
@LunaQuads
@LunaQuads 4 ай бұрын
I agree
@markmidwest7092
@markmidwest7092 4 ай бұрын
Brigham Young preached the Adam-God doctrine at one of the general conferences, so he spoke as a prophet then. According to what you write here, it's hard to know what teachings to trust isn't it? And don't tell me I can just get a prompting because I'm sure nearly everyone in attendance hearing the prophet speak received promptings he was preaching the truth. . . or was everyone there deceived?
@mcdonaldpuddin
@mcdonaldpuddin 4 ай бұрын
So if this is true, why would you ever trust what your prophet says if its simply a product of the times and will be overruled in a few years, much like the name Mormon?
@LunaQuads
@LunaQuads 4 ай бұрын
@@mcdonaldpuddin they are good people. And there is so much proof. He predicted Covid.
@MBGK777
@MBGK777 Ай бұрын
I just watched you on Alyssa’s channel and I just realized that I was actually about to watch this video the other night but then I got distracted but now I’m here. It’s weird how that happened.
@kevinmoyer6224
@kevinmoyer6224 8 ай бұрын
Great breakdown. Long live the panda!
@frawell410
@frawell410 8 ай бұрын
The watchtower isn’t above the Bible however, the organization is called Watchtower Bible and tract society. Notice the order of importance.
@fescot6659
@fescot6659 Ай бұрын
The distinct similarity is their insistence on strict adherence to the organization of the church. It’s one’s practice of ritualistic behaviors and traditions that keeps them connected to God and hopeful for the afterlife. Neither can profess an assurance of their salvation as they don’t or won’t know if their works and behaviors will merit His favor.
@lifewithnancia1809
@lifewithnancia1809 8 ай бұрын
Can you do a video about Seventh Day Adventist and More videos on Mormon LDS please 🙏🏽
@salt1956
@salt1956 Ай бұрын
Excellent presentation, thank you.
@hiramiamilan4392
@hiramiamilan4392 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video, thx!
@user-qj4od3cy7p
@user-qj4od3cy7p 8 ай бұрын
Can you make a comparison video between JWs and the Bible Students? As witnesses we were taught that we were called “Bible students” and then Rutherford changed it to “Jehovah’s Witnesses”. But that’s only HALF the story. The “Bible Students” did come from Charles Taze Russell, but they were also a group that strayed away after Russell died. The “Bible Students” were the people who didn’t like RUTHERFORD’S teachings, so today they evolved into the “Chicago bible students”, the “dawn bible students”, and so on. And these other religions from russell STILL EXIST TODAY😅 it’s like 2 million of them all over the world. And back then when the “Bible students” disconnected from Joseph Rutherford, Rutherford got mad and decided to change HIS followers names to “Jehovah’s Witnesses”, so that everyone can tell the difference between HIS followers and the people that LEFT him. He even went to the extreme to change the word “churches” into “kingdom halls” so that he can really stand out in the world.🙊
@zephyromenix8755
@zephyromenix8755 2 ай бұрын
I was raised JW and my boyfriend was raised Mormon, now we’re both PIMO’s for our respective family’s religions. Coincidences are crazy
@krzysztofdziczek5654
@krzysztofdziczek5654 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for full of objectivity material good job
@peterbunyan3924
@peterbunyan3924 8 ай бұрын
Well, both cults with terrible backgrounds.
@thndr_5468
@thndr_5468 Ай бұрын
you could say that about any religion
@zissler1
@zissler1 Ай бұрын
Can you name one thing that makes them a cult?
@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573
@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 Ай бұрын
​@@zissler1doubting the dogma is forbidden, tithing is enforced, shunning the ex-members, charismatic leader who makes the rules, high-control environment, us vs them mentality... etc. The BITE model checks out.
@zissler1
@zissler1 Ай бұрын
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 How does any of that compare to any other religion in Christianity? How would you like your religion judged by the same measure, or are you some Atheist believing all religions are cults? Doubting the dogma is forbidden? Don't most Christians believe if you doubt Christ you go to hell? Tithing isn't enforced, but you don't get member benefits like going to the temple, I've never heard of any punishments past that. Shunning ex members? The only time i've heard of shunning is when a christian converts to Mormonism, they will be shunned for certain. Charismatic leader? Honestly most Christians say they have a hard time staying awake listening to our prophet, most pastors are more charismatic. High control environment? how is it high control saying do what the bible actually tells you? If you believe in the bible, does that make you a cult? Us vs them mentality? I've never experienced that more than being by Christians who instantly divide themselves from the church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints, won't call us Christians, won't even acknowledge we follow Jesus Christ, so that we are are divided. Have you ever, ever, had Christians try to include the doctrine of the Chruch of Jesus Christ an anyway, find anything that they believe in ever? I'm not saying evangelicals are cults, but if you are measuring them by that standard they would be.
@Aknight292
@Aknight292 Ай бұрын
​@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 this doesn't apply that well to Mormons. Some things, a little at most others...not at all.
@gouchscowl8601
@gouchscowl8601 2 ай бұрын
As a Trinitarian, I welcome the day Jehovahs witnesses and Mormons turn up to my door coincidentally at the same time. Can you imagine what an interesting day that would be?
@OntheOtherHandVideos
@OntheOtherHandVideos Ай бұрын
It depends - when I was a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ, there were a couple times we ran into preaching JW's - they tended to either be 1) really nice and not want to talk much or 2) bible bash and name call. But that was just my experience. :D
@DellaStreet123
@DellaStreet123 Ай бұрын
An interesting combo. Both are non-Trinitarian, Christian-inspired religions, but their respective non-Trinitarian theologies are about as contrarian as can be. JWs are monotheists who reject the divinity of Christ and deny the Holy Spirit personhood. LDS are polytheists who believe that Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three seperate deities, and that even the Holy Spirit has a body.
@Aknight292
@Aknight292 Ай бұрын
I was a LDS missionary in Brazil. Generally JWs weren't interested in talking with us.
@jeremybennett5547
@jeremybennett5547 13 күн бұрын
@@OntheOtherHandVideossame they either avoided us like the plague or were nice and dismissed the interaction quickly. Or they were bitter and wanted to bash, I had more negative interaction than good ones.
@hattie-thebatty-2486
@hattie-thebatty-2486 8 ай бұрын
Well done on a good job
@omarzuhairmalaibari296
@omarzuhairmalaibari296 2 ай бұрын
BRO what is the music at the start of the vod? plz sounded like ace attorney or a JRPG been looking for a while can't find it help plz
@rakeanomander1
@rakeanomander1 8 ай бұрын
Be it Mormon or JW....it never ceases to amaze me how these religionists/cults could attract anyone. Must be legions of intellectual bindle stiffs roaming the world. Very sad.
@LunaQuads
@LunaQuads 4 ай бұрын
Bro The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints isn’t a cult
@antimony4127
@antimony4127 4 ай бұрын
@@LunaQuads is*
@LunaQuads
@LunaQuads 4 ай бұрын
@@antimony4127 …… how are we a cult?
@floptaxie68
@floptaxie68 4 ай бұрын
@@LunaQuads look up the definition of cult
@snowy4748
@snowy4748 3 ай бұрын
unfortunately like moss religions, children that are born into it are indoctrinated by their parents, then when the kids grow up to have children the cycle continues. Also some people are just more vulnerable to manipulation and cult tactics.
@wobe244
@wobe244 8 ай бұрын
This video was real informative, all I’ve learned about Mormons is from the Jodi arias case and from people comparing JW and Mormons. Also,If you change the lyrics on some JW songs they could be real bangers. I couldn’t help but sing that bethel song.
@aspenenglish4976
@aspenenglish4976 8 ай бұрын
Really? Jodi Arias became baptized LDS with the hope that Travis would marry her. He did have sex with her outside of marriage which forbidden in the Bible. How about you pick up a book that is not bashing a religion you know nothing about. There’s also a website you can visit that visit that for accurate information. I know many JW’s and their faith is nothing like LDS faith. The only 2 similarities is non-trinitarian and we spread the world of Gid from knocking on doors. It is stated in the Bible that we must spread the gospel of Our Lord and Jesus Christ. We are not controlled, manipulated,and have a very normal life minus alcohol, smoking etc. I can’t watch much more.🤮
@wobe244
@wobe244 8 ай бұрын
@@aspenenglish4976 what? I wasn’t looking for information that bashed the LDS. I’m into true crime and Mormons were mentioned in the case.
@aspenenglish4976
@aspenenglish4976 Ай бұрын
@Plasma_Snake yes. Many non-LDS people live in SLC itself and in many of the cities. Provo is basically all LDS but ranks as the happiest city in America. Nobody will bother you if you’re not LDS. Your neighbors just might be super nice if they are LDS. There’s no pressure to convert. There is Starbucks, restaurants and bars that serve alcohol and lots of things to do. I only have one family member out of my rather large family that lives in Utah. Most live east of the Mississippi River and prefer it that way.
@aspenenglish4976
@aspenenglish4976 Ай бұрын
@Plasma_Snake 50% of SLC is not LDS. You would be welcomed into the community just like any other person. There are churches on every corner but it wouldn’t have anything to do with you. You’d just have your own life like any other person. Many people moved in from California due to housing prices. They weren’t and are not LDS. There are churches and other religions all over Utah including Hindus and Muslims. It’s just like anywhere else, be nice to them and they’ll be nice to you. You cannot be nice to them and most likely, they’ll still be nice to you. If you’re thinking of moving their for a job opportunity or because of the mountains and so many things to do then go visit. I have a friend that’s Orthodox Jewish who moved there and loves it. It’s just a matter of your likes and dislikes in any community.
@PennesinoTheGreat
@PennesinoTheGreat 29 күн бұрын
I am a member if you have any questions.
@francinemirey1555
@francinemirey1555 8 ай бұрын
Wasn't Russell the " Laodicean prophet " ? It used to be written on his pyramid tomb...
@Nachopanda66
@Nachopanda66 Ай бұрын
Fantastic video, I grew up LDS (Mormon) and can see you did a lot of studying to get your facts accurate. the only thing I would say is in regards to the leaders of the LDS church. they see themselves as human and make mistakes often. not a lot of people think that they are infallible there are a few weirdos that believe they are mistake less but that is very few. other then that Ima subscribe because you did a fantastic job explaining a unique religious culture without bashing or degrading.
@KalicoKat86
@KalicoKat86 Ай бұрын
LDS here. I’m confused that you called the leaders of my religion “politician like.” I’ve never heard anyone say that before. Weird.
@LizSSwan
@LizSSwan 22 күн бұрын
I live a 5-minute drive from Kirtland, where the first Mormon church is located. I'm aware of at least two Kingdom Halls nearby, which take about 2-3 minutes to reach if I catch the traffic light. Interestingly, I've never come across another Mormon church in this area. I just checked, and it turns out the closest one is a 20-minute drive away, followed by another that's 30 minutes away. All I’m gonna say about the JWs out here is they could very easily be a part of our community. They are very close to our downtown and have a giant parking lot. I’m only aware of this parking lot because I’ve been picking my roommate up on Sunday mornings from work. It’s like the bright red ‘parking lot full’ sign is invisible until the last second, and when a Honda Odyssey slams their brakes on in front of me and does a Dallas dive down across traffic and down a side street. It’s just very confusing if they want us heathens to convert or if the art festival is “too worldly”.
@jimbomanzano4785
@jimbomanzano4785 4 ай бұрын
How about doing a comparison between JW, Mormons, and the Church, if any, you adhere to?
@chimerastonewall3471
@chimerastonewall3471 Ай бұрын
I remember when I was the SDA people, keep on getting me confused with Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons
@philconey11
@philconey11 Ай бұрын
Can we talk about the fact that the ancient Nephites are always portrayed as absolutely yoked out of their minds?
@modestoca25
@modestoca25 Ай бұрын
Can you do videos on The Seventh-Day Adventists
@wattpadrecensioni
@wattpadrecensioni Ай бұрын
I can't speak about JW but for the church of jesus you have done a wonderful work
@sharkinator7819
@sharkinator7819 2 ай бұрын
Us Catholics do not recognize either as Christians, but heretical denominations.
@georgerafa5041
@georgerafa5041 Ай бұрын
Exmormon here. Can confirm, they a cult
@SeattlePioneer
@SeattlePioneer 4 күн бұрын
So.... like Protestants for hundreds of years then?
@johnkimaku1884
@johnkimaku1884 Ай бұрын
Can you do the SDAs?
@jonathanbaca1500
@jonathanbaca1500 23 күн бұрын
Good video.
@matthewx2590
@matthewx2590 10 күн бұрын
We, Latter-day Saints, emphasize education. In my small branch in Arkansas, we have a female medical doctor, a man with a PhD in biology, a counselor, a lawyer, and me a nurse. To my knowledge, JWs discourage higher education.
@CultsandAtheists
@CultsandAtheists 3 ай бұрын
Jaw dropped listening to this. So many parallels to the cult I grew up in. Sent you an email
@michaelmartin1848
@michaelmartin1848 Ай бұрын
19:36 I live in Shanghai and have always been hearing they are building a temple here but I have never heard of where that construction site is. Curious was Mormonism with Chinese characteristics will look like. Definitely no proselytizing.
@Thegamingg00bers
@Thegamingg00bers Ай бұрын
My GMA was a JW and one thing I’m thankful for is that was her walk she didn’t celebrate anything but she would give my dad money to go out and buy gifts for Christmas and our birthdays. In all things show love regardless of your religion peeps.
@Franco_76
@Franco_76 8 ай бұрын
Bethel is like Disneyland but less cult-like
@erics7004
@erics7004 29 күн бұрын
I'm Christian, and almost dated a JW woman and a mormon woman, JW and mormon women are very elegant by the way. My grandfather converted to JW while my grandma was from the Presbyterian / Four Square Gospel Church Christian. My dad was raised Christian, thank God. But then my dad married to my mom which was catholic and now she is both catholic and evangelical (normal brazilian stuff). I'm evangelical even though I was raised in a catholic school, but my mom told me to choose to be evangelical or catholic, but never atheist (lomg). I'm evangelical until this day.
@B.W_edits
@B.W_edits 27 күн бұрын
That's wild
@TRIELUS
@TRIELUS 2 ай бұрын
Which one does phishing?
@nanaamapay9632
@nanaamapay9632 6 ай бұрын
Up state newyork is really up to something
@DougVandegrift
@DougVandegrift 2 ай бұрын
I was a mormon missionary in 2005-07. It was a good time and i made a lot of friends, but ultimately it was a giant waste of time and I wish I used that time to pursue other areas of interest.
@wh0sc4nd1ce
@wh0sc4nd1ce Ай бұрын
My 2 sisters are Mormon and they had to give me a Book of Mormon one time and the look on their face was actually hilarious 😆
@jeffnoble9757
@jeffnoble9757 Ай бұрын
That's informative and thank you for not giggling so much, like you normally do. Do a video on the history of the Catholic Church, the crusade and burning people alive by the thousands, and the sex scandals that go on in the priesthood today, that would be interesting. Watch the movie SPOTLIGHT with Michael Keaton it's informative
@lukagalic9533
@lukagalic9533 Ай бұрын
Members of the LDS church celebrate Christmas and Easter while Jehovas dont do that.
@user-fo7fl5gs9q
@user-fo7fl5gs9q 28 күн бұрын
Never met a Mormie that celebrate them.. maybe they can now?
@robfriedrich2822
@robfriedrich2822 27 күн бұрын
The one cult falls from the horse the one side, the other the offer side.
@jaredvaughan1665
@jaredvaughan1665 27 күн бұрын
Accurate description of my Church: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
@sophibrumby9542
@sophibrumby9542 8 ай бұрын
The Christadelphians are also a Restorationist, Adventist, baptism by immersion, anti-trinitarian group. Each congregation is considered autonomous so there is no central authority. Because of this there are no standardised rules on shunning and disfellowship but shunning and ostracising definitely do happen and cause much suffering and heartache among members and ex members. Church accountability is largely lacking, allowing them to fly under the radar with issues of CSA and other abuses. Are you interested in including them in further religious comparisons?
@gigi9301
@gigi9301 6 ай бұрын
This is giving me a headache!! Why would anyone want or need all these rules and how do you pick which rules are the "real" ones?
@patrickkelmer6290
@patrickkelmer6290 25 күн бұрын
As...bizarre several of the mormon beliefs and practices are, if I ever were given a choice between them and JW, I would clearly chose them over JW. (I myself am raised secular lutheran and converted to Judaism later in life)
@andrewdurfee3896
@andrewdurfee3896 Ай бұрын
Congratulations you did a very good job of being accurate in relation to the teachings of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There were only a few mistakes, but I give you a 10 out of 10.
@buckodonnghaile4309
@buckodonnghaile4309 Ай бұрын
What about Jehova's and 7th day Adventist?
@AbisJourney
@AbisJourney Ай бұрын
Mormons, JW and SDAs all came from the same religious movement.
@hazzanfl9814
@hazzanfl9814 Ай бұрын
I'm LDS this was a very interesting video, fair play to you most of what you said was accurate and you were respectful about what you said, I've had a couple jw come to my door before and although I disagree with some of their beliefs they were very nice people, the only thing I would say you got wrong is that we believe God was once a man now some do believe that because its been said by some church leaders in the past but most don't, its similar to how Bringam Young once said he thought Adam could be God , most don't believe this and no other prophet has agreed with him
@jeremybennett5547
@jeremybennett5547 13 күн бұрын
Also a member, you might want to look into that a little more. As exaltation in the celestial kingdom (not salvation you will learn these are two very different things but both good) exaltation is essentially having all that God has (and what he is) Check out gospel principles chapter 47 “exaltation” it’s a pretty simple breakdown of it all. As well as doctrine and covenants 132: 20-23
@scottbrownnewaccount4325
@scottbrownnewaccount4325 Ай бұрын
I do get what u r trying to do here, but may I add one thing. I am LDS ( aka a Mormon) and I just wanted to say that Joseph Smith was actually the founder, and the prophet that restored Christs church on this world after the great apostasy. I am not intending to disrespect, just wanted to add that in ☺️
@yosblitz9026
@yosblitz9026 Ай бұрын
My soul left my body from mental whiplash hearing death by glamour play after the copyright disclaimer
@joshuawayneyork
@joshuawayneyork 7 ай бұрын
I wasn't a JDub but I was babtized Mormon when I was 10. Did you know the phrase "and it came to pass" is used approximately 1,430 times in the book of Mormon?!
@nataliew344
@nataliew344 Ай бұрын
Great video information-wise but i have a sneaking feeling that a lot of these background images are AI generated…. kinda disappointing
@DarthMagog
@DarthMagog 8 ай бұрын
@12:27 Panda knew what he said lol
@captainsirk1173
@captainsirk1173 Ай бұрын
To all those people being like “Mormons are cultists destined for hell,” I’m always just like, Jesus said you would know his disciples by their love one to another. I’ve never gotten the impression from the Bible that misunderstanding the incomprehensible nature of God was a damnable offense.
@B.W_edits
@B.W_edits 27 күн бұрын
The bible also says to be beware of false prophets saying anything not in line with scripture.
@dravendfr
@dravendfr Ай бұрын
I pray for my JW and LDS brethren, they have been misled and I pray their passion can be utilized by a worthy church and doctrine.
@solisprime2669
@solisprime2669 Ай бұрын
I have LDS thanks for the prayer though and I hope you stay safe and prosperous.
@pointlesspos8440
@pointlesspos8440 8 ай бұрын
any comparison highlights how boring JW's are . Do a comparison to Amish and I'm sure the Amish will look like Burning Man comparitively.
@Chrisjay-yw2cu
@Chrisjay-yw2cu Ай бұрын
Joseph Smith Jr. Didn't found our church (Lds) Brigham Young Did Joseph Smith wrote the book of Mormon in 1829 in New York...
@keithwolfe1942
@keithwolfe1942 Ай бұрын
Kind of correct. Brigham Young was a control freak. Joseph Smith, Jr. was a dreamer and had an outgoing personality. Both needed a real experience of a rebirth and a come to Jesus happening. Neither had that.
@Ssm19494
@Ssm19494 7 ай бұрын
Which is worse?
@mickylove76
@mickylove76 Ай бұрын
I used to make jokes about having a sharks vs jets dance off with the mormons and the JWs. I used to get told off a lot when I used to knock on doors.
@erics7004
@erics7004 29 күн бұрын
My grandpa SOLD his house in 1976 while my grandma was traveling, she was enraged and after that she had to live in the same land as his husband brother's which were all JWs and all of them NEVER TSLKED TO HER IN 40 YEARS because she was Christian.
@dramadriwilson7524
@dramadriwilson7524 2 ай бұрын
If we say that we don't have a mother in heaven were do female image comes from why will the bible say it is not good for the man to be alone.the reason for the creation of earth was for us to start eternal family.that is the reason why God give us power to to also participate in the creation were we get married and make a body for our spirit brother and sister who are still in heaven who wants to come on earth to receive the body like the same way in came on earth to and receive your body which is created in the image of your earthly mother and father.and our spirit bodies in the image of our heavenly father and mother.this truth is very simple for us to understand even little children can understand thanks for the video
@DavidChorley-pg2qi
@DavidChorley-pg2qi Ай бұрын
I also played with my Labrador this morning, that keeps me out of Islam
@unholywarrior9007
@unholywarrior9007 7 ай бұрын
Let's talk about the definition jw have of the soul? Now my definition is if your body is alive and has a spirit in it the 2 make a soul . If your dead your a spirit and thete may or may not be a dead body somewhere that use to be yours . If you haven't been born yet your a spirit . Roamans 8 16 kjv the Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirits that we are the children of God . ... so plz post if you have this scripture and if it's different. And is the spirit lying to is that we have a spirit and is it lying that were God's children And must I post scripture proving spirits move around after we die ? Because i can
@POCKET-SAND
@POCKET-SAND Ай бұрын
A thing about the Bible that I appreciate very much is that the history presented in it very much aligns with the archeological records. For example, we know that many of the Kings of Israel and Judah mentioned in the Old Testament were real figures because they appear in the archeological record, just like we know who many of the Egyptian Pharaohs are. It tells us that, at the very least, the Bible really is over 2,000 years old and accurately describes the world as it was at the time it was written. None of that applies to the "Book of Mormon." To date, no archeological evidence has come forward to indicate that the Americas 2,000 years ago resembled anything like what the Book of Mormon describes. The Mormon book even speaks of "barley and wheat" being in the Americas. These are Old World crops that didn't appear in the Western Hemisphere until the Early Modern Age when the Europeans brought it over. Joseph Smith was a modern day Muhammad: a false prophet who deceived others for personal gain.
@robfriedrich2822
@robfriedrich2822 27 күн бұрын
You can't assume, a Prophesy would always come from God. We have the Bible to check, does it match or doesn't it. The Mormons didn't became suspicious, when added an additional book to the Bible, the people who became "Jehovas Witnesses" never came to the idea, that they could have failed and repentance is the only way to deal with it, instead looking for excuses.
@nojw7940
@nojw7940 8 ай бұрын
Is there any difference?
@Eric_01
@Eric_01 8 ай бұрын
Did you watch the damn thing?
@Duhble07
@Duhble07 8 ай бұрын
I think he meant “material” difference, as in difference in how it screws one over. At least Mormons allow education, so that one’s life isn’t totally screwed after one discovers it’s all smoke and mirrors, ie. nonsense.
@nojw7940
@nojw7940 8 ай бұрын
@@Eric_01 No. Expendable.
@dabish2888
@dabish2888 28 күн бұрын
At 4:33, there a supposed explanation of how Christians see God, which is in gross error. We do not believe that the members of the Trinity are "one person" as the narrator said. He is one in essence (i.e., one in being) yet three in person. "Being" and "person" are two distinct categories, and as man has only the one person in one being frame of reference, this is surely a mystery. No one should be surprised, however, that God cannot be fully comprehended by his creation. He is wholly other, and only a truly arrogant, foolish individual would make such a claim.
@lexyprince5772
@lexyprince5772 Ай бұрын
Im from utah, what you dont know is that the mormon lifestyle backfired once they began taking state control, a city in utah called ogden was considered one of the most dangerous citites in the 1920s, many have said thag Al capone said he would never go their in fear of his life (not a quote, just a northern utah rumor) in utah you have alot of mormons, but then you have alot of people who are very NOT mormon. Depends on the city but there is alot of drug uses and utah has a really high larceny rate
@jahmasin
@jahmasin 7 ай бұрын
William Conley started the WT not Russell en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Conley
@troymead5642
@troymead5642 Ай бұрын
Do it on Scientology
@teresarodriguez9274
@teresarodriguez9274 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for making it. *As of 2023 JW no longer need to report hours and men are now able to have beards.
@lilylamble9749
@lilylamble9749 Ай бұрын
Thanks
@braydonbetts
@braydonbetts Ай бұрын
Bro that’s crazy that going a school can make you loose congregations.
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