500 Brits vs 1000 Argentines - Battle of Goose Green 1982

[@historigraph]

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[@jeroylenkins1745]

Why are the British red?

[@conoromeara6108]

It’s always fantastic work that you do. Thank you for your time and effort! Cheers.

[@daniel-pc5kv]

Great content as always. One thing though I seem to recall from somewhere that at goose green the harriers where RAF GR3s from HMS Hermes

[@arts6821]

@@jeroylenkins1745 it’s probably because its been the color the British are well known for.

[@kiwiviking175]

Really, really close but if you're aiming for the pinnacle, there are some things you should be absolutely clear on. First; No.1 Sqn RAF did not have Sea Harrier GR1; they had [standard] Harrier GR3. They did only ground attack; the Royal Navy Sea Harriers did all the Air-to-Air combat. Second; you only have the Scots Guards appearing as 'SCOTS' at the end for Mt Tumbledown. Where is their approach route? They followed the same line as the Gurkhas; why are they not shown on your map?

[@Breakingfasst88]

Piaggi not believing there was an imminent attack because it would be extremely crazy to publically announce it on TV is hilarious.

[@Aren-1997]

So he was right, it was reverse psychological warfare because the deception worked haha.

[@LmgWarThunder]

It's kind of like how the belgians didn't defend a heavily mined and tactically advantageous position of a strong fort during WWII because they thought it'd be suicidal to attack from that direction. A young German commander attacked from that direction seeing it being under-defended and took the garrison by surpriss

[@geofschofield7963]

Don't forget the MSM published that Argentinian bombs were dud; it cost lives.

[@legoeasycompany]

I mean the Brits have done wackier things to fake out their enemies. This just feels phoned in

[@dashsocur]

To be fair, I don't remotely blame him for that judgement. No competent enemy would ever do that but apparently the MOD wasn't a competent enemy (at least on the topic of information security).

[@Blueparsnip-z9c]

I was in the Falklands for a while a few years ago when i was in 1 lancs. Patrolled the islands and did some exercises over there. Absolutely loved it but 100% couldn't imagine actually fighting there. Terrain is horrendous, completely open, cold and windy as hell. Being there and actually visiting the sites where the battles took place was pretty insane when you see how horrible the terrain is and how difficult it would be to be on the offensive. I also got to patrol south Georgia island and stayed there a while. To this day its the most beautiful place ive ever been and the Penguins are awesome.

[@umad42]

Yeah I can't imagine how much of a pain in the ass it would have been to assault over open ground like that. That would really suck

[@henryquecabral9357]

In all honestly, I'm no brit but to be fair from what I hear, cold, windy, open and wet sounds a lot like home for a brit.

[@gwtpictgwtpict4214]

@@henryquecabral9357 Fair point, well made. Currently North Manchester is cold, wet, windy and dark. Even the cat won't go out.

[@Harleytravels-m1t]

I was there with 2Para , so its good to get a professional Infantry blokes view of the ground we had to use , my main memory of the ground was trying to dig in the peat - shell scrapes and slit trenches leached water in , other thing was the ground tended to soak up arty , except once when one struck a rock outcrop . We didn't attack over much rocky stuff at Goose Green and Wireless Ridge - unlike 3 Para on Longdon . Thx M8 .

[@Phil-n7c]

Completely agree. It's an amazing place to visit and the battlefields are incredible. Envious about your trip to South Georgia ; )

[@ljdasilva3139]

Squaddie to Colonel Jones "Sir, this is not a fair fight - the Argies have twice our number." Colonel Jones - "Yeah, that's true ... but we can't wait for them to bring up more men to make it fair." It's a cruel world.

[@МихайлоСєльський]

Looks like several hundred were airforce personell and others were fed into the action piecemeal (also they were conscripts). Brits attacked in full force of several companies and on argertinian side (if video is to be believed) there were only several platoons in actual trenches. Doesn't seem much like numerical superiority.

[@garthtomlinson2570]

@@МихайлоСєльськийI think that is literally the tactic you use when outnumbered by an enemy force. You attack in a way which limits the enemy use of their numbers

[@МихайлоСєльський]

@@garthtomlinson2570 I totally agree, just pointing, that notion of numerical superiority is perhaps a bit dubious and misleading in this case.

[@МихайлоСєльський]

@@UsuallyTrolling, a popular (and I'd say an outdated) oversimplification. There are too many different factors (besides numbers) at play to generalize like that. Tons of hisorical examples, when assaults were succesful without such advantage or failed with even bigger one.

[@greg_4201]

​​​​​​@@МихайлоСєльськийJust shut up. Clearing entrenched positions of twice your number starting from open ground is a great achievement. If you only have to fight a certain number of them because your attacks were impressive enough to dislodge the whole force and scare off others then that's also testament to your skill. What's more the Air Force guys weren't the ones doing most of the fighting... As for diminishing the legend because of the skill disparity, you're gonna struggle to find a great victory against a numerically superior defender that ISN'T inferior in skill to the attacker, aren't you!? 😂 Otherwise the outnumbered attackers wouldn't win 🤷🏻‍♂️ They won because they were highly skilled relative to their enemy. Obviously this a clear example of the trend of the whole land war in the Falklands; determined professionals against not so determined amatuers - the basis of nearly all great military victories (even though some of those Argentinian amateurs were actually considered elite forces, rightly or wrongly)

[@ecosseclan]

Local lad was KIA at Goose Green, Cpl Hardman 2 para from Hamilton Scotland, I've visited his grave a few times to pay my respects, he now rests peacefully in Wellhall Cemetery, Hamilton Scotland

[@jnairac]

RIP Para🟥🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@alexwallace5486]

RIP son. Lest we forget

[@msmrepo3271]

One if my instructors was there he was 2 para Mr Gormley, Scottish man aswell. Good man he was and went through this and survived. God bless our troops.

[@Hugh_Morris]

Lest we forget 🇬🇧

[@martinlaird4738]

Respect from an Amateur historian out of Coatbridge

[@santoast24]

The first thing I do when I see a new Historigraph video is open up google maps to follow along on satelite imagery. Really adds another dimension to be able to see just how green and dense that ditch is, or modern monuments placed on important sites on the battlefield as they happen on screen

[@theemissary1313]

Ha, I thought I would be the only who did that!

[@steriskyline4470]

Shout out to new zealand for being the only country that offered to travel across the globe to help us

[@anzaca1]

Thanks.

[@benwilson6145]

Pretty sure if you do some research you will find that Chile did a lot of support and many other countries supported the British in a non headline making way including France.

[@Twirlyhead]

Our most excellent EU and NATO friends, Spain, were cheering Argentina on much to my disgust. Racism of a kind. _With friends like that ..._ as the saying goes. Later when there was a fishing dispute between Spain and Canada to Spain's annoyance Britain backed Canada. Would be nice to think there was cause and effect but Britain probably would have backed Canada anyway which is also good.

[@pepebeezon772]

​@@Crusty_Camperall aspect AIM-9L is huge for the air war

[@samsonsoturian6013]

It's NZ. Everywhere is halfway around the world

[@mrgeorgeb0062]

met an absolute legend who fought at goose green, he’s been thru a hell of a lot and still kicking, hope he gets many more beers and stays kicking for many more years.

[@jjakes5589]

Wasn't the SAS there somewhere?

[@pooooornopigeon]

​@@jjakes5589Of course, try researching.

[@bobroberts6155]

Shortly after the conflict I sat next to a guy on a flight who couldn’t wait to let me know he was just back from the Falklands where he had been operating a Rapier airfield defence battery. Such was the pride in the achievement at the time that I suspect he was telling everyone he met and I don’t blame him one bit.

[@markadams6174]

I actually worked on the Rapier Missile system. It's got one of my circuit boards in it.

[@turkey7269]

Nothing makes a day better than a fresh Historigraph video.

[@PershingOfficial]

What an excellent production of a video. Well done! The editing, pacing, and detail is unmatched.

[@Aren-1997]

Love these Falklands War vids, keep up the good work.

[@peterclark8208]

I’ve been to the Falklands twice on battlefield Tours, this is the first time I’ve actually understood what happened at Goose Green! Excellent video, thank you.

[@Britephartt]

The Falkland Island became a British colony before Argentina existed as a country. Argentina's claim to it is simply absurd. The fact it's closest to Argentina has no basis in international law but the wishes of the inhabitant absolutely does.

[@grupoaereo9]

UK recognized Argentina independency as a country in Feb 5th of 1825... where is the absurd if you were in the islands since 1833?

[@SpookyFox1000]

Are you a puff ?

[@Andy-ScotsIrish-TheGAEL.]

​@@grupoaereo9 The UK informally recognised Argentine independence on 15 December 1823, as the "province of Buenos Aires", and formally recognised it on 2 February 1825, but, like the US, did not recognise the full extent of the territory claimed by the new state. The Falkland Islands have never had any native inhabitants and no indigenous people have ever been displaced, instead the Islands were entirely unoccupied until 1765, when they were first claimed by the British who established a garrison at Port Egmont.

[@grupoaereo9]

@@Andy-ScotsIrish-TheGAEL. of course you use the option that is better for you... if you were´nt the first to "discover" (between a bunch of quote), you were the first to put a rock... or don´t recognize others... even when the islands were discoveres two centuries before, there were settelments.. and also, the gobernemt of Buenos Aires put a garrison too much later in 1820 when there where nothing else... you say that there were nothing... it´s funny the way of thinking of you that if you didn´t discover, nobody else did it

[@YT-mk2pz]

​@@grupoaereo9I can't imagine what it must feel like to have to learn another language, watch a video in that language and argue semantics about which rock belongs to who 40 years after my country lost a war. Can't be good for you though. The islands are British and that's that. It doesn't matter what you think.

[@bikenavbm1229]

makes me feel old, this seems not that long ago, it was 42 years ago, at that time WW2 had finished 37 years earlier. by far the best account I have seen to explain the movements of this well told story thank you.

[@lanesaarloos281]

You too imagine time that way.

[@TheCptNutter]

Excellent video. Really enjoyed the detail and narration. Thanks for taking the time to create and upload.

[@kedwardsTWO]

Fun fact: Because of this war, most british troops still enjoy a good old tab. "Tactical Advance to Battle." It reinforced our ideology of being able to march on foot to the scene of effect. (And not just rely on vehicles.)

[@petem68]

Unlike the Yanks...

[@whitestorm101]

Ive done a battlefield tour at goose green, much respect to 2 parra, I still cant believe they ran up grenade gully under fire!

[@MrKawaltd750]

Great light infantry lesson !!!

[@lewisinho]

Never really had an interest for history, but the way you present your videos with the visuals make it absolutely incredible to watch 👍👏

[@bobmcneill1104]

Mate of mine was in patrols, met each other in 2005 and work together for years..never shy to throw a punch or two..lost touch now but was a great guy with undoubted problems.

[@pwmiles56]

"2 para return to barracks" This was the sign chalked up at Waterloo station in London (Waterloo East if i remember correctly). Literally, the moment I (a casual commuter) knew it was a war.

[@xjbender]

BRUNEVAL was the call sign that went out to all the Paras on leave or away from Barracks

[@billdoor3140]

What a different welcome they'd get now from Islamic London

[@Tomex13]

That level of details is absolutely brilliant.

[@shaunmclorie5929]

I had the honour of meeting John Crosland after he gave a lecture on the 40th anniversary of the War. Astounding story and this video does credit to both sides.

[@gordonmcinnes8328]

I have a friend who fought in this battle, all respect to the dead but it was largely 500 elite paras against 1,000 consctipted kids. He still relives this campaign with his tears every Remembrance Sunday.

[@Phil-n7c]

Conscripts can still fight hard from trenches armed with machine guns and fully automatic rifles. I've been to Darwin Hill, you would not want to be stuck in that gorse gully with trenches overlooking you

[@jrton1366]

Why repeat this nonsense Argentine propaganda that the British were fighting kids? The British had 2 18 year olds killed at Goose Green. Soldiers are generally very young. The entire point of this waffle is to make it sound like the Argentines would have sent their true men to fight in the falklands. It is rubbish.

[@alexander-mclanachan5618]

point of intrest thy had 6 105mm pac hows down there man,d by pros and there where argi Marians there also

[@Phil-n7c]

@@alexander-mclanachan5618 It was the Argentines to lose. They were well armed and had well prepared, well sited positions in depth. The fundamental difference between the two armies wasn't volunteer vs. conscripted but the quality of the leadership and the cohesion between the ranks. Argentine veterans after the war commented that the British officers, NCOs and private soldiers communicated with one another in a completely different fashion. No one shouted, orders were given calmly, respectfully and thus were carried out properly. They were literally in it together whereas the Argentine conscripts were often abused and mistreated by their officers and NCOs. The motto of the British army officer training academy after all is "serve to lead"

[@msmrepo3271]

My instructor was 2 para, he told me about them being kids

[@GeneralThargor]

nice looking poster, just bagged me number 32. Great video guys keep at it!

[@willrice1212]

Recently a fan, I love the dedicated level of detail

[@DouglasScutts]

The real number of wounded in 2 PARA was 64 (sixty-four). This is revealed by Surgeon-Commander Rick Jolly in page 73 in the book 'Memories of the Falklands' (Iain Dale, Politico's, 2002) commemorating the 20th Anniversary of the Falklands War. Rick Jolly goes on to explain in his book 'Doctor for Friend and Foe' (Bloomsbury Publishing, 2012) that 47 men in 2 PARA were badly wounded requiring emergency surgery with 17 sustaining minor wounds not requiring immediate treatment but still serious enough to requiring evacuation from the battlefield and supervised care in a field hospital.

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

His account in "Above All Courage" is brilliant as well. Both he and the sailor recount the time he jumped off a helicopter to help a drowning sailor after the sinking of (I think?) HMS Sheffield.

[@CynicVids]

Such joy when you release new videos. Thank you.

[@tedparkinson2033]

Alright gang, assemble! Lets get this video on the front page!

[@cjhackattack2375]

Ooh Rah!

[@Akren905]

News team assemble

[@outofturn331]

🥱

[@Lawesp]

Great video. Bought 2 infographics. One for me and one for my Dad for Christmas. He’ll love this. 👍

[@anzaca1]

The Falklands proved that the British military wasn't a joke. Every branch completely outclassed their Argentine counterpart.

[@Mmjk_12]

Well the Navy was a joke. A terrible performance rife with incompetence and great loss...

[@UsuallyTrolling]

@@Mmjk_12 The Royal Navy did its best with what it had at its disposal. Remember this isn’t the US Navy with all the funding in the world.

[@UsuallyTrolling]

@@Mmjk_12 the RN wanted additional sea wolf missiles for the Type 42 but the treasury told them to make do with just Sea Dart.

[@Mmjk_12]

@@UsuallyTrolling it wasn't about that, it was about the fact the senior leadership and officers abroad the vessels were complete fucking morons. Look up how Sheffield was lost. Basically the exact same way the Ukrainians got the Moskva

[@samsonsoturian6013]

Every army looks great when your enemies are gangsters

[@Steelninja77]

If you saw the terrain they had to march across. bogs and boulder fields from glacial flows big as a car for miles. crazy. respect to those lads.

[@DeaconBlu]

Great vid! Thank you! Toward the end of the video I was thinking (to myself..😹) that I would Love a whole series, or 1 BIG vid on the entire war… Then you lay it out…. 😆 Thanks mate! (I’ll be watching that one next.) The whole deal with the Falkland’s has gained my attention for decades. I agree up under Reagan and Thatcher. (Love them both, I’m not gonna lie.) The Falklands engagement is just sooooo much deeper than most give credit to. The Black Buck raid, as an example… Thanks mate! Great vid!

[@Raymond-Li]

Happy 7 Sophie! I've been watching your sweet moments together for over 5 years, it's really insane how big Sophia's gotten, the middle part of the video was just so sweet and such a throwback. 🎁🎉

[@outofturn331]

Tell me about it

[@alex_zetsu]

Not too often you see videos go into company level or platoon level detail. There are plenty such actions from WW2, but old records tend to be incomplete. Officers were more concerned about winning the war than writing reports, so primary sources are often interviews taken a decade after the events from survivors. There are more modern conflicts, but many of them like the Congo Wars tend to have relatively few pitched battles and tend to resemble slogs where both sides fight each other but the lines are static. I guess the Falklands War is kind of one of the few conflicts you can do this level of detail.

[@andyquirk4610]

I read countless books on the Falklandfs in the 80s and 90s. This graphical display was fantastic and gave me a whole new view of how it developed. Thank you.

[@donaldclifford5763]

And taking that airfield gave the sea harriers a land base to operate from.

[@offthepaceyt]

"theyre not stupid enough to announce their actual tactical movements on TV' Ladies and Gentlemen, We got him.

[@donaldclifford5763]

hat would the Argentine's have done differently anyway?

[@gunnarnilsen7058]

Another excellent video from the channel. Keep up the good work!

[@davidrobertson5700]

Every day is poppy day, thank you for your service.

[@douglasb5046]

That’s soooo Yankish. Gawd

[@davidmushal7862]

Another excellent one. Thank you!

[@scottmaclean1248]

Brilliant. I had hoped you'd come back to cover Goose Green in more detail; any plans to similarly cover Longdon or Tumbeldown, or both? Couple of minor corrections: The British helo shot down by a Pucara that day was a 3CBAS Scout, not Gazelle (Lt Richard Nunn RM, KIA), and the air support came from 1 Sqn's GR3s, not Sea Harriers

[@jimweights8908]

These brave British men are the best in our country. Yet largely ignored by the media. Lions.

[@NetgrumpifyJazz]

The role of Nepalese men in this conflict is ignored by the brave British keyboard warriors 🙃

[@jimweights8908]

@ they are part of the British army you 🤡

[@ReicantheJester]

That is because today, the British man is forgotten by the British media and government. Unless he dares speak his mind on mass immigration, increased crime or dare step in to prevent a rape committed by a "poor misunderstood culturally enriching person", at which media portrays the brit as a savage, a far right monster and a fascistic white supremacist

[@samwilliams0901]

@@NetgrumpifyJazz this is about a specific battle. Stop playing the victim.

[@NetgrumpifyJazz]

@@samwilliams0901 Who’s playing the victim here Brexiteer? A pretty dumb reply don’t you think … Britons tend to exaggerate their heroic events in history…500 professional servicemen against twice as much incompetent conscripts is still not that brave after all..🙃

[@seanwilson9985]

Man I love your channel reminds me so much of the battlefield documentary series.

[@johnclaxton9878]

my step dad suffered ptsd after Falklands as he lost friends on gallahad as he was in hospital instead of on board

[@garymordey9694]

I love these historical accounts of strategic battles.

[@willdrake542]

I will say Piaggi's reasoning for his decision to not believe the BBC broadcast is completely fair.

[@SerBallister]

It's hard to believe the BBC could be so stupid.

[@donaldclifford5763]

What would he have done differently any way?

[@465maltbie]

Very nicely done, thanks for the great graphics. Charles

[@EG-cs1wl]

Great video! greetings from Chile🇨🇱

[@the-blue-barron2791]

🇬🇧🤝🏻🇨🇱

[@Anon-vu2jx]

Saludos desde el Reino Unido amigo :)

[@Tomstaman]

Chile provided the most impactful help to the Britain during this time and deserves to be mentioned more

[@happybrainybren]

My dad was in the Falkland's was a helicopter pilot, ill grab him one of those posters for christmas think he will really appreciate that ty.

[@MsZeeZed]

It’s always puzzled me how the Battalion commander ended up exposed to machine gun fire when charging a trench at the very front of this battle. Your mapping format explained in a very clear way - the machine gun position was concealed from the attack direction by the terrain - that makes more sense than other more opinionated takes I’ve read on this action.

[@theoriginaldylangreene]

It is more complicated than this video makes out, but getting bogged down in the weeds of it would slow down an overview of the battle. Jones had been arguing with his junior officers for most of the night and into the dawn. He was constantly cutting off CO's trying to report enemy movements, and demanding that the assault happen quicker. He should have never been at the front line in the first place. He was there because his men were bogged down. Rather than giving orders (E.g- re-enforcing them from another flank) he instead got uppity and decided to "lead from the front". He should have never been there, doing what he was doing.

[@UsuallyTrolling]

@@theoriginaldylangreene Poor Phil Neame kept getting shut off the net by H when suggesting a flaking movement along the coast to Boca House

[@brentonherbert7775]

Just finished writing my own comment about that very thing. Dude thought getting his troops then himself shot was a good idea when in a position as advantageous as he was. YES his men were too close for arty support... But the ones COVERING the Argentineans pinning them down??

[@theoriginaldylangreene]

@@brentonherbert7775 It's as @MasterCheeks-2552 stated. Colonel Neame had the whole of D company overlooking the Argentine position on the flank. He repeatedly radioed "H" and tried to get him to authorise a flanking maneuver that would have cut off the Argentine position. The Argentinians would have had to fall back, or risk having a whole company in their side and rear. What "H" did, was tell Neame to literally "STFU and stop wasting his time." He then jollied up to a machine gun nest and got his comeuppance.

[@douglasb5046]

@theoriginaldylangreeneWoodward in his book referred to him as a “hot head.” 😃😃😃

[@cmoakes18]

I've never clicked so fast on a historigraph video

[@bernardmcmahon351]

My mate was there, when he came back to uk he didn’t really speak too much about it but now and again he mentioned stuff, I could tell he’d been through a lot, I moved house since then , I’ve not seen him for years, he was a very young man then, his name is Ged

[@Joey_Liu]

A bit late but you guys have done an amazing job covering the conflict on the Falklands war!

[@flatbunny]

Great video.

[@IterativeTheoryRocks]

Marvellous! Fantastic presentation. Well done!

[@hmmjedi]

Spent 4 months there in 96/97 windswept bleak but also strangely beautiful with it... I still remember tramping up and down Mount Kent on a weekly basis... had a Staff Sargeant who enjoyed going for a walk and I was his chosen one for company for some reason... fighting there would have been a bad time all over very little high ground but what was there commanded the surrounding areas and then you have the weather I remember my first 30 minutes on the Islands awaiting transport and it was everything hail sleet snow high winds and cold... even though I was there in the summer season December to April one thing I learned quickly never trust the weather forecast even when you are standing outside in said weather... a great 4 months though...

[@mrneutral8423]

Just curious but what accent do the people on the Falklands speak? I don't mean language, but do they speak cockney, brum, scouse, or what?

[@hmmjedi]

@@mrneutral8423 It's been about 25 years since I was there but Wikipedia states the accent has resemblances to Australian, New Zealand, West Country and Norfolk dialects of English, as well as Lowland Scots and High Tider...

[@adamalton2436]

I remember reading about this in “Military Blunders.” It was one of few examples of a side making major errors and still coming out on top.

[@seamuskavanagh2566]

Hi, Historiograph. Loved the video. I do think you should have mentioned the alleged "white flag incident" at the airfield. According to many British witnesses, Argentine soldiers waved a white flag of surrender, and Lt James "Jim" Barry (against British Army protocol) and two other Paras left their lines to accept the surrender, but were rebuffed by the Argentines, led by S-LT Gomez-Centurion. As they returned to their line, they were shot from behind as they climbed over a fence. Reportedly, one soldier, Cpl Paul Sullivan, was apparently shot in the leg and then executed by Argentine soldiers who moved forward, purposely to execute him, shooting him in the head at close range. Whilst this was happening and the most of the Barry's platoon (which had moved forward to process prisoners) were pinned down by heavy machine gun fire until supporting fire arrived, led by Sgt John "Taff" Meredith, who got the DCM for his actions there that day. This event, even today, is EXTREMELY controversial as many Argentines claim they never flew the white flag and that they thought the British were surrendering - which the British rebuke since they were winning by this point so why would they surrender? The Argentines also claim that it was the British who opened fire first, which some British sources seem to agree with, blaming Support or A Company, depending on the source, as you mentioned in this video After that incident, there are also numerous allegations of British Paratroopers executing Argentine soldiers after this in revenge, which some British sources agree with. However, the Argentines alleged there was a mass execution, whilst the British sources claimed there were a couple of isolated incidences instead. It should be mentioned, there are no British eyewitness accounts (that I have read, at least) that actually admit to having seen an execution of a wounded or unarmed Argentine soldier, they just claim to have heard suspicious gunfire, or seen suspiciously accurate, close range gunshot wounds on Argentine bodies. There are eyewitnesses who saw British Paratroopers shooting some Argentine corpses to make sure they were dead, but I'm not sure of legality of it so I won't comment too much on it. There also are accounts of British Paratroopers putting themselves between their comrades and Argentine prisoners to stop them being killed, in one case a Para literally jumped on top of an Argentine prisoner to cover him so he couldn't be harmed by other vengeful Paras so not everyone was involved. I know this is a difficult subject to talk about in your video due to the sensitive and conflicting accounts of this engagement, but I think its important to mention it since a lot of people, both British, Argentine, and people of other nationalities, have romanticised views of the Falklands War as a "clean" war where their side did no wrong. I agree that it was a "cleaner" war compared to most of the wars of the time such as the Iran-Iraq War, the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan, or the South African Border War for example, and most wars since. However, it seems that both sides committed war crimes, which needs mentioning, and shaming. Also, I watched your video on the Battle of Port Stanley. Where did you get your figures for the Argentine dead at Mount Longdon? All my sources say 31 Argentines were killed there, but your video says 44. Could you please give me your source? Thank you.

[@historigraph]

Hey thanks for the comment - I did have bits in the initial script about this incident, but just struggled a lot with showing it graphically with much accuracy, so decided to just narrow the scope of the narrative to things I could be more confident on. Possible I might discuss it somewhere else if I get a chance

[@person8203]

I knew an ex para that fought there. He said there would be a lot of controversy if the truth came out. He even expects to hear about it in his lifetime when offical records become public knowledge. The way he told it the paras didn't often stop to take many prisoners, even those unarmed or surrendering. Was literally plow through until they reach the objective.

[@Phil-n7c]

@@person8203 That's pretty much out in the open now. Phil Neame - D Company's OC - said as much in the televised documentary in 2022 and in his book. They couldn't afford to leave any Argentines behind them as they kept advancing so...

[@Phil-n7c]

It was a pretty clean fight. Of course the Argentines dropped napalm at Goose Green and dumb dumb bullets were found. They also left children's toys booby-trapped in people's houses. The Paras meanwhile didn't take many prisoners and there was a prisoner shooting on Mount Longdon after the battle which Louis Sturge was accused of committing. The real secret about the war is that the Argentine losses were probably twice as high as their official figures state. Many casualties were taken just from the nightly naval bombardments which went on for several weeks before the final land battles. And the special forces also provoked the Argentines into firing at each other's trenches causing all kinds of chaos. I think all the SAS accounts of the war are written by men from D Squadron but it was G Squadron which really got in close to do the reconnaissance work up to and including dressing as Falkland islanders and walking around Stanley in full view of Argentine soldiers. "The strangers" was how the locals referred to them. My local guide Tony Smith told me that one SAS had almost been caught in the Post Office when the Argentines came in to inspect the IDs of people stood waiting to use the postal service. He quickly dashed out the side door and disappeared. On another occasion an SAS trooper walked into the community hall at Goose Green where all the locals were being held. He never said anything, just noted their presence and then walked out. This obviously boosted the islanders' morale. I went off at a bit of a tangent there but it's certainly true that there is more to come out about the war including the fact that at least one British submarine observed the Argentine invasion and that an SBS squadron may have been ashore but did not take part in opposing the landings. Also it seems there may have been a power struggle going on in Whitehall as some people saw the crisis as opportunity to get rid of Thatcher.

[@seamuskavanagh2566]

@@Phil-n7c Regarding the Battle of Goose Green, from the sources I've read, it was very much a battle of two halves, based on how the Argentine and British conducted themselves. Initially, both sides were by the book, on the battlefield at least, not in terms of how the Argentine's had treated and interned the residents of Goose Green. The Argentine's didn't take any prisoners whilst the British did, and protected them from the British press who were allegedly offering starving Argentine conscripts food in exchange for damning false confessions. This is illegal under the Geneva Convention and British Paratroopers made sure no Argentine soldiers were coerced into giving life-changing and legally incriminating statements to British tabloids. This changed after the "white flag incident". The Paras were furious that their men had been allegedly shot under a white flag whilst they had been trying to save Argentine lives in the process. In response to this, some Paras reportedly took a "take no prisoners" approach, according to one source, but I forget which one. The overwhelming majority of Paras did not conduct executions. Argentine casualty number simply aren't anywhere near high enough for that to be possible. Some even put themselves between Argentine prisoners and their own comrades to make sure their prisoners weren't harmed. However, during the fighting around Goose Green schoolhouse, Argentine forces suffered 18 dead and reportedly a lower number of wounded whilst the Paras suffered no dead and only a few wounded (I think it might have been 3 wounded). These numbers, if accurate, are very suspicious. They are very one-sided in Britain's favour, and not consistent with the rest of the battle since fighting around the schoolhouse was relatively short compared to that of Darwin Hill, for example, yet nearly one-third of all Argentine fatalities reportedly died in or around the schoolhouse. One explanation is a horrible, but unconfirmed story that when the Paras breached the schoolhouse, killing and wounding a number of Argentine soldiers still fighting there. Argentine artillery, realising they were about to lose the schoolhouse, opened fire on the building, eventually setting it on fire. The British evacuated the building, deliberately leaving wounded Argentine prisoners still within the building to burn to death as revenge for the "white flag incident", reasoning that it was Argentina's fault and therefore not 2 Paras problem. As for your comments on Argentine soldiers booby-trapping children's toys and other household property, I've heard of it and generally believe it. They also booby-trapped an ammunition dump which was later detonated by Argentine soldiers tasked with clearing it, killing three. I agree that the Falklands War was a relatively "clean" war overall compared to most wars of the time which is why British and Argentine veterans generally have a high amount of respect for each other, relative to veterans of other conflicts. However, veterans of Goose Green, on both side, are generally more bitter, resentful and vengeful than veterans from other battles. I don't know about Argentine veterans, but British veterans of Goose Green are known to refuse to eat Argentine meat products, to the point they will ring restaurants and events organisers to check where their ingredients come from and refuse to buy or even attend if they are selling Argentine-based products. I don't know of this happening with any other group of British Falklands veterans. 3 Para literally got into a street fight with Argentine forces after the ceasefire/surrender yet even grievously wounded veterans have confirmed that they have drank Argentine wine with Argentine veterans that they were fighting against 20, 30, 40 years previously.

[@ExpatMerlin]

I remember on the ship, everyone eating and making a noise in the mess, when Col. Jones ( apparently in briefing at that moment) came in, and shouted to everyone to shut the #### up. It was immediately quiet. He definitely made an impression.

[@donaldclifford5763]

Cha in of command in full force and effect.

[@gmtom19]

I never buy youtuber merch, but the fact your quality is so good, you're very independent and that you've cut out the middle man for the posters swayed me.

[@tanostrelok2323]

I don't live very far from Estevezes' house, the guy became a bit of a local celebrity for a couple years, so it's cool to see him mentioned in a British video. RIP

[@seamuskavanagh2566]

I'm British, but I have read up a bit about Argentine forces during the Falklands War. Argentina had some really good junior officers in the conflict, and Estévez stood out immediately as one of the best. He was a man that other men would follow, who led by example, and someone who wouldn't ask another to do something he wouldn't do himself. It's such a waste to have men like him or his British counterparts fight to kill each other for politicians. RIP.

[@mcjon77]

I've been absolutely fascinated with this war for 30 years, which is odd because I'm neither British nor Argentine. I read about it in an autobiography of an SAS soldier when I was in high school and have been interested in the topic ever since.

[@OJ9992]

Did work at a guys house earlier this year who fought in the Falklands 🇬🇧 his squad entered a village that the Argies abandoned and left children in the basement of one of the houses, 30 years later he went back and met one of the girls he rescued from the basement. Terry, now 85 years old what a bloke ❤

[@drowze_]

I think Lt. Colonel Jones had no business attacking that trench, and he arguably overreacted and threw his life away to take a tactical position that he should have trusted his men to take. His skills are organizational, not combat oriented. He’s obviously a brave man, that can’t be denied. But couldn’t he have served his soldiers and his country better by staying back?

[@chrisanderson8207]

While it's not generally done to criticise a man KIA and awarded a VC I've always been of the same opinion - with the exception that his death didn't even mean the taking of a critical position. My view has always been that he senselessly got involved in a situation that he shouldn't have been & that he'd have been better served by using the rest of his Battalion to support the attack - rather than charging in himself. He effectively demoted himself to a Private Soldier rather than fighting his Battalion as he should have done - and MAJ Keeble did. I always though that MAJ Keeble should have been given command of 2PARA for the remainder of the campaign rather than being replaced.

[@garrym5682]

Airborne aggression, move forward fast and win. That's what he believed and it cost him his life - one might argue that he was in an impossible position trying to keep the momentum of an attack going when he had half the numbers, no air and not much artillery. Chris Keeble was a far more measured man, and after he took command it all started to fall into place and the battle was won - that should tell you more about Chris Keeble than it does H Jones. But ask any young para what they are told and what they believe - and to them the story of the aggression and bravery of H Jones (and Ian McKay) that tells them what they should aspire to.

[@geordiedog1749]

I’d agree but I’m just a history enthusiast. However, I did work with a bunch of prison officers detached from Preston jail who were all 2 Para Falklands vets. They said that Jones was “stupid” and a ‘glory hunter”. Their words. They said that he should never have done what he did and that it jeopardised the whole attack. They said he was brave and all but they were privates and NCOs and they felt let down. They said the “Rupert’s” were all over excited by the chance of an actual battle. On the way down they constantly worried that a diplomatic solution would be found before they got there. There was also a deep morbid fear that the RM would get the glory and they”d miss out. They said that they were all up for it but the squaddies were quietly apprehensive in private - the experienced NCOs especially talked amongst themselves of the potential clusterf+ck that awaited them. Once all together they were ubiquitously confident and aggressive.

[@geordiedog1749]

@@chrisanderson8207yes, same exactly. It was irresponsible and smelt of personal aggrandisement. Being critical of someone who was killed doing something like that and getting a VC feels very wrong to me but when I try and look at it through cold eyes I always come to the same conclusion.

[@chrisanderson8207]

@@garrym5682 Still - I was once an Infantry Officer - old and broken now. We were the same - speed and aggression, Seize ground and hold it. Coming at it from a professional standpoint I can't understand the decision. As a LT I might (and probably would have) done the same. But that's as an LT. I still can't get past the fact that as a LTCOL he did what he did - if he was fighting in Arnhem about to be overun by the II SS Panzer - fair enough. But this was not that. All he needed to do was to fight his Battalion, trust his subordinates and bring up fire support for his diggers (Tom's I suppose - I was Australian not British Army) and it would have been done - same as MAJ Keeble did.

[@Blueboy0316]

You did the thing!

[@mattwilliams3456]

I doubt this is going to be a popular opinion, but I don’t think Col Jones would have received a VC in any other conflict for those actions. I’m not at all disputing that he was incredibly brave and acted in a selfless manner, and he clearly was a leader who would never ask his men to do anything he wouldn’t do himself. That being said, he did act more rashly than necessary and lost awareness of the of the fact that he was outpacing his men and attacking with diminished support. If the British leadership hadn’t wanted to further enhance the national pride at the victory and lessen the embarrassment at losing the islands in the first place he would not have been as highly awarded, in my view.

[@geordiedog1749]

There is something to be gained by awarding VCs in a political sense. At Rorkes Drift for example several VCs were issued that might not have been had the army not have been utterly humiliated (and wiped out) the day before at Isandlwana. Thatchers political career was on the line. Bigging up the conflict with some top gongs would only help politically. Had things gone very wrong at GG Jones may well have been scapegoated instead of lauded. My personal and very amateur opinion is that it was a bloody stupid thing to do. He put personal glory over the bigger picture. Not good leadership. But then paras are all pretty mental!

[@jordankidd4443]

As the British say: he had the decency to get himself killed. Thus he saved everyone the embarrassment of an inquest and could die a martyr.

[@deee1979]

I heard he was shot by his own.

[@VaderGhost124]

My Uncle fought with A Company at this battle. I’m a keen student of history and only a few years ago in my early 30s it dawned on me I’d never understood what hell he must have gone through in the Falkland’s. At a family gathering a few years ago I asked him about Goose Green and Jones. I’d read opinions similar to this one that Jones had lost operational vision and control and I put this to him. He couldn’t have disagreed more. I’m paraphrasing now but he said to me that, the whole British line had become bogged down with the troops becoming exhausted. Farrar-Hockley (who’s dad fought at the Imjin River) thought it futile to carry on up the gully and wanted to fold in with B company and attack the centre. Jones knew this wouldn’t work and needed to get the troops going. Captain Wood, who he was close to had just been killed trying to move up the gully and my uncle told me Jones didn’t want anymore lads dying unnecessarily. So he became possessed by over coming this position. As the video states the last my Uncle and most of the other A comp lads saw of him, he ran off with his radio man and a couple of others to start attacking the opposite position. Jones did eliminate the first position he came to and then went on dying just short of the second, eye witness accounts say that the rounds that hit him in the back actually pushed him into the trench he was attacking. Farrar Hockley then sent a reenforced squad to go assist by the time they go there he was already dead or dying but once at Jones position they carried on the attack largely because they had to given the danger to themselves and the need to silence the Argentine troops in front and to the side of them, again as the video states knocking out key inter locking fire positions. I’ve arrived at the opinion that he save the battle for the British and without his actions the whole assault would have stalled and a retreat was more than likely. That bits counter factual but the rubbish about his own men shooting him is just that. His sacrifice drove them on in many ways my uncle told me. What’s interesting is, after Jones’s death Keeble came up and directed the battle from close range as well, luckily surviving. It was a close in, virtually hand to hand combat small squad size action. Sitting 5 miles away directing by intermittent radio wasn’t going to cut it.

[@raymondbristow4007]

At the time, I thought (as a young soldier) why would any CO leave his Battalion leaderless, but of course he didn't, the majority in a Battalion can step up a rank or two and do the job if required. I myself went up two ranks before deployment in the Gulf War 1990-1991. The attack didn't have the Artillery support, denied by General Officer Commanding Land Forces (he later regretted his decision), the R.N. Gunfire Support, that failed as the Gun broke down. The attack was beginning to falter.... I haven't read his citation, but in many citations for a V.C. are "he showed leadership that gave inspiration to others around him in full view of the enemy"... it was an earned V.C. 4 officer's dead and 5 privates (other ranks too), think of the percentage of privates in the Battalion to the percentage of officer's... it is what other Regiments aspire to be... Airborne Officers, always first to jump from the aircraft... Sandhurst provides the training, plus other courses. But there is the British Regimental System that 99.9% of civillians do not understand. Live up to the history of "Your" Regiment. Everyone believes that they're in the best section of the best platoon, of the best Company of best Battalion of the best Regiment,... Brigade, Division, Corps, Army etc... today, I suppose people may ask what's a Division, Corps, Army? etc... (something that Government's don't want to pay for...)

[@jamiejoy2393]

My dad was 2 para was one of the snipers in this battle, said it was the most savage of the battels he'd had there

[@artawhirler]

Excellent video! Very clear explanation! Thanks!

[@senianns9522]

BBC also advising all viewers that bombs which had hit the naval vessels had not exploded because the timers were set wrongly! Just what the Royal Navy needed???

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

Had the current BBC been around in 1944, there would have been a special programme broadcast on 2 or 3 June, expounding in detail the Allied plans for Overlord, with, helpfully, subtitles in German.

[@david78be]

The BBC is a joke at this point.

[@molly-gz1gd]

The BBC purposely made that broadcast to help the Argentines, just like they broadcast the arrival of troop ship Canberra into San Carlos Water, then published in detail why the Argentine Air Forces bombs were not exploding when hitting ships. They then gave clear details on how the bombs should have been fused and dropped for better effect. This led to the Argentinian air force changing there bomb load outs and soon after the Ardent and Coventry were lost. If I remember correctly the Sun newspaper also printed this information. It was also announced by a MP (who is now a Lord) that the UK was reading Argentine codes. Colonel H Jones was furious and vowed to sue those responsible for this betrayal but alas he never lived to do so. Not everyone wanted the UK to be successful.

[@senianns9522]

@molly-gz1gd I think you're correct! The BBC so naive and our lads getting targeted!

[@molly-gz1gd]

@@senianns9522 The BBC is definitely is not naive.

[@Alienalloy]

as a young teenage boy watching this unravel on the news that summer, it was the stuff of english daring do, i remember running from home down to the local woods where a swing was set up over a brook, where all the kids in the area had congregating that hot weekend, to shout.. "weve taken Stanley".. the shouts and whoops lives with me to this day, that was to me the dying embers of empire, the last reach of power across the far side of the planet.

[@Historyxx-n9l]

The stuff of English daring do’ that’s not even a sentence

[@Alienalloy]

@@Historyxx-n9l "Derring-do a quirky holdover from Middle English that came to occupy its present place in the language by a series of mistakes and misunderstandings. In Middle English, dorring don meant simply "daring to do." It emanates from 1579 'derring doe' Just google it, its in the oxford English dictionary. "The stuff of English Daring Do"... I understand though if your not a native English speaker from these islands, it sounds a bit odd.

[@Historyxx-n9l]

@@Alienalloy you used AI or chap GPT for this anyway’ what a clown

[@Alienalloy]

@@Historyxx-n9l nope, I'm old enough to form sentences without the use of A.I. though i can copy and past...clown first recorded c. 1560 (as clowne, cloyne) in the generic meaning rustic, boor, peasant. The origin of the word is uncertain, perhaps from a Scandinavian word cognate with clumsy.... no need for A.I.

[@ericmyrs]

Jones' charge is the single most parchutist thing I've heard all week. It speaks to the madness of parachutists that I've heard crazier things last week.

[@thecap5222]

Got to love the quality of the British troops they may never have the numbers but they have the grit and professionalism

[@parkertitle1923]

Hey if you don’t mind me asking what happened to the operation valkyrie video?

[@michaelmoorrees3585]

I was in college, during this war. News about it came over TV, newspapers, and magazines. Only computer use, was the school's main frame.

[@morris9337]

The Argentine claim to the islands are frankly ridiculous

[@davidjarvie9546]

Just found your channel and ive subbed...great content 🇬🇧👍

[@Al-iv3mb]

You will never persuade an Argentinian that the islands will never be theirs, far less that they were. Argentina is littered with road signs, car stickers, streets and districts which proclaim "The Falkland Islands [i never use their word] are Argentinian". Seriously, it's even emblazoned on their trains and buses. No surprise because it is indoctrinated into them from before primary school. It is over 40 years since i played my insignificant part, but the Argentinians still go on about the war. You know, April 2 is a public holiday, ludicrously called "Day of the Heroes", you couldn't make it up, but they did, yet I've still to find a single "hero" amongst the 44 million

[@acerimmer7557]

Great video, please do Mt Longdon

[@daddyof3gaming522]

Back when Britain was still the bollocks. Imagine sailing and flying half way round the globe with an expeditionary force and defeating an invading country that was only a few hundred miles away from objective.

[@jsano2754]

What an exemplary show of bravery from the paras. Lads must have been hanging out just from the insertion tab, then to win the fight even though being outnumbered. Gotta respect the gallantry of these men.

[@SageThyme23]

It always bugs me how the tories get so much credit for the falklands when the tories are the reason why the brits had such a tough time of it. If the argentines had just attacked a year later the UK armed forces would have been so cut back and defunded they could have kept the islands

[@derrickstorm6976]

Probably because the average citizen is so uninformed

[@tsf317]

They couldn't have kept the islands. If Britain was militarily unable to recapture the islands. They would have gone to NATO. And the US would have supported them. It would have been a national embarrassment but the islands would have been recaptured

[@Anon4859]

@@tsf317 The US supported the Argentine claim initially because they were scared a weakened Junta would permit a Commnist takeover. They only moved to support the UK when it became clear the islands would be taken back with or without US backing.

[@matthewwilson6888]

Michael Foot, the Labour leader at the time, was a stronger opponent of defence spending. Though to his credit, he did support the war. While it was Labour who’d made the initial decision to enter into negotiations to hand the islands to Argentina. This emboldened the latter and played a major role in starting the conflict. Thatcher was reluctant to withdraw HMS endurance from the waters around the islands. But eventually agreed to do so after the risk of invasion was deemed low. It’s true that both parties made mistakes. But the British response was nothing short of remarkable.

[@tsf317]

@@Anon4859 if the US didn't back the UK in a definitional case for NATO. Nato could fall apart. A close Ally of the US was directly attacked and they were asking for assistance. The US would have to say yes. And even if the US dragged its heels. Other countries could have provided the necessary assistance. One of the aircraft carriers was going to be sold to Australia. Australia would likely be willing to use it. The US might have seen Argentina as an ally. But the UK has a bigger population, a bigger economy. And is far more strategic to hold

[@JMNvesi]

My grandpa was an Argentine conscript, I think he participated in that battle.

[@Sol_Invictus_]

On the topic of the BBC broadcasting the planned attack. Thatcher also announced it in the Commons too prior to it going ahead.

[@outofturn331]

Tactical level details?

[@molly-gz1gd]

The BBC purposely made that broadcast to help the Argentines, just like they broadcast the arrival of troop ship Canberra into San Carlos Water, then published in detail why the Argentine Air Forces bombs were not exploding when hitting ships. They then gave clear details on how the bombs should have been fused and dropped for better effect. This led to the Argentinian air force changing there bomb load outs and soon after the Ardent and Coventry were lost. If I remember correctly the Sun newspaper also printed this information. It was also announced by a MP (who is now a Lord) that the UK was reading Argentine codes. Colonel H Jones was furious and vowed to sue those responsible for this betrayal but alas he never lived to do so. Not everyone wanted the UK to be successful.

[@toonarmy8524]

My Mate Dougy Mccready 2 para was there he was one of the ones that rose the British flag in Port Stanley when it was taken. Proper bloke . Thanks all service men/women for your service to this country.

[@bigsarge2085]

Fascinating.

[@Niinsa62]

The Victoria Cross is not awarded just for bravery. Bravery alone is not enough. You must have made a difference too. And H. Jones did, by making his men attack again, and defeat the Argies, so he surely earned his V.C.

[@Ray-k1d4w]

My mate Jim, at 17yrs of age, was the second Para to March into Goose Green.

[@markb5710]

13:15 RAF GR3 Harriers rather than Sea Harriers I think.

[@anzaca1]

No, it was all Sea Harriers.

[@markb5710]

@@anzaca1 "Yet as things turned out the Harrier GR3 force had only one opportunity to exert a decisive influence on the land battle. That occurred during the critical phase of the battle of Goose Green on the afternoon of 28 May, and the unit responded in spades. Just as the issue was in doubt three Harrier GR3s - one flown by Jerry Pook - suddenly appeared over the battle area and darted in at low altitude to drop cluster bombs and launch rockets against the Argentine artillery position. Pook, Jerry. RAF Harrier Ground Attack: Falklands . Pen and Sword. Kindle Edition. "

[@littleshep5502]

Although they may have been GR3s, they were all RN planes, due to them being assigned to the fleet air arm

[@markb5710]

@@littleshep5502 The GR's were from No.1(F) Squadron of the RAF, Shars were from 800, 801 & 899 of the FAA

[@littleshep5502]

@markb5710 they may have been, however they operated them under the fleet air arm, meaning that the RAF planes, and pilots, were Royal Navy for the duration of the war

[@billmmckelvie5188]

A few heroes who went down there were absolutely fuming about the decision to anounce it!

[@theoriginaldylangreene]

The beeb have always been the enemy of the working classes.

[@Nainara32]

Why didn't the junta build up forces to fortify the island? It sounds like they only had poorly trained unmotivated conscript infantry holding the most critical positions in fairly basic fortifications without any meaningful fire support.

[@jacob8565]

If memory serves Chile was doing some sabor rattling in the mountains which caused Agininia to withdraw the more skilled troops. And yeah most of their army were conscripts

[@biddyboy1570]

They had trouble at home. Internally and with Chile. They needed the troops to defend the home front. Plus the British would never sail south and if they did they wouldn't attack. That would be madness.

[@benwilson6145]

The Argentina's were unable to feed and supply the troops they had, more would only make the situation worse.

[@BanIslam-j6p]

They had their special forces and marines there

[@littleshep5502]

Argentina was planning for a full scale invasion with chile, something only narrowly averted a couple of years before. Thus, most troops were stationed on the border, not expecting the UK to fight.

[@derrickstorm6976]

Ayy the intro is back!

[@Dan19870]

"SUNRAY IS DOWN!" Perhaps the most devastating words hear that day. I wonder if officers and NCO's had difficulties preventing troopers executing argies out of vengeance?

[@UsuallyTrolling]

Keeble taking charge saved the battle for the Paras

[@Ceser1999]

Not really. My understanding is that quite a few of the troops barely registered that it happened, and when they heard of it went "oh well, that's above my pay grade"

[@theoriginaldylangreene]

@@UsuallyTrolling 100% in agreement. Jones was a nepo, glory-seeking, tin-hunter. He shouldn't have been where he was, doing what he was doing. Keeble immediately took command, and everyone was far happier for it.

[@tanostrelok2323]

I don't think so, I talked to some veterans and they commonly describe British soldiers as gentlemen. Usually, insults and complaints are reserved to the army command and the navy.

[@alexwallace5486]

@@Dan19870 British soldiers are too well disciplined for such behaviour even in the heat of battle, we may feel like it on the spur of the moment, but do not act on it.

[@paulbatty9085]

Superb!

[@UnDeaDCyBorg]

Jones' attack exemplifies the saying that Bravery frequently is synonymous with gross stupidity. I suppose an award is easy to give to a dead recipient, but even if it paid off, it wasn't necessarily a smart move.

[@ianstewart7405]

A very clear explanation of the battle. On a point of detail, the Harriers that made the attack were Harrier GR3s of 1(F) Sqn, not Sea Harriers

[@Phil-n7c]

Those GR3s also hit Argentine positions on the peninsular which juts out into Choiseul sound not just the airfield

[@MentalSpidec]

Had the honour of visiting Col. H Jones memorial when I was in the Falklands this year. He’s the sort of leader we all aspire to be.

[@bilgerat6060]

Jones was brave man but the battalion CO should not be assaulting trenches.

[@stephenjones9027]

@@bilgerat6060Heard a story a number of years ago that Colonel H was continuously leading his men into fire during the battle and eventually he was shot in the back by his own NCO’s because he was getting too many guys killed - they then led the final assault under a black flag

[@VaderGhost124]

Great video. Thanks

[@hiddentruth1982]

My dad ( U.S army ) was put on 24 hour notice during that war. He didn't go but we were ready to help the Brits if needed.

[@brianmulvaney9375]

Excellent Vid.