500 Trophies of Bravery. How Many Shiny Weapons? (Brave Weaponry Engram Opening)

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[@axe2grind244]

The random 6 people who remember Heli dismantling that god roll Interference GL....where you at.

[@alexanderspassov4759]

Right here LMAO

[@AstroRain82]

IM HERE

[@maxifernandez1760]

HERE LOL

[@SpectraVolta]

God that hurt

[@sharkbaitjr_9923]

5:23 run with smallbore, also super jealous of that roll lol it’s exactly what I’m looking for

[@blackblaze4830]

PVP sweats right haha

[@That_One_Guy20]

same but just run with any stability and range barrel

[@allstar3765]

Same I’ve been looking for that roll

[@htmLukas]

4k hrs in crucible, I'll vouch for this. 5/5

[@YeOldeFatBadger]

Very nice roll. Especially in shiny variety 😋

[@pvpeet9374]

I’ve watched so many Heli videos that I started saying „thanks for the shards“ whenever I dismantle something, which really throws my clan off :D That phrase will be sorely missed…

[@pasttense69]

Hard Launch and Implosion Rounds WITHOUT a blastwork MW is very good. the god roll i’m aiming for is Auto loading and Recom. Hard launch and Imposion rounds are like SUPER SUPER not necessary. Just the perk combo alone is good enough. Spike nades also work just fine.

[@OFLBRAVEFIGHTER]

Can't wait for next weeks update to the amount of loot drops

[@Dynasty1818]

Really won't make much difference. 10 waves will still be the mathematically most efficient way to farm.

[@soraneptune4178]

​@@Dynasty1818well depends on the chance of bonus drops I guess. There's essentially a period of forced wait in every 10 wave so a good team wouldn't find the time difference from running 0-10 and 10-20 that different. So if the bonus drop is relatively decent it might be worth running till like 30 ish to try and get the +1 (which is effectively a 5-6 min time save) but then again it will also depend on the avg chance of just getting the bonus on wave 10.

[@soraneptune4178]

Also depends on how much they mean by "additional tokens of bravery at legend Rd 30,40,50"

[@ChardogNation]

@@Dynasty181810 waves is not even the best atm, unless you’re absolutely ass the time spent loading is more than the time on the extra difficulty in a 50

[@NotTheBeltAgain]

@@Dynasty1818 Maybe if you are a bot sure. But if you are a good player you will get more, Skarrow i believe did a video comparing the numbers.(I think some were guesstimates but still shows that is significantly better)

[@DoDaPassiphant]

You want as much velocity as you can get on the Mointaintop! Something like: 1. Column: Hard Launch 2. Column: Implosion Rounds 3. Column: Auto-Loading Holster 4. Column: Recombination On this roll even a handling or reload masterwork is great!

[@atomicsymbol2917]

If you didn't know, you want hard launch and spike nade for mountain top. idk if you mentioned that cause I did skim through the video for the shinies lol, guilty as charged. For some reason, when mountain top has les blast radius, it does more damage, around 12.7%. So the god roll is hard launch, implosion rounds/spike nades. I believe you can get away with quick launch and implosion rounds but not sure

[@peethan007]

unfortunately no amount of tokens will allow us to see shaxx's "special" package 😞

[@xds4102]

The glimmer I'd pay for that 😔😔😔

[@cleanboi9136]

huh

[@BuzzMatt]

The amount of crucible I would play for that 😔

[@Heli]

i love you guys

[@taktika4764]

The amount of motes i would bank for that 🥶

[@alexanderspassov4759]

OH MY GOD! I remember that damn video with the Interference grenade launcher LMAO! I think I even commented on that one too. Way to unlock a memory. I havent watched in years either.

[@Imightbestupid17]

I got a perfect shiny mountaintop and I don't need to grind for anything else at this point and I've never been happier

[@candycouldntbesosweet]

I (hate you) love that for you !

[@223ndog]

Me too. I’m done with trying to get anymore mt. Tops.

[@theveryamericaneagle3657]

Congrats

[@elysiumcore]

Piss off 😂

[@djam7484]

what perks

[@Nadiki]

In 300 rounds of Onslaught, I got 4 shiny weapons. All four of those were tonight, in a single 50 wave run. 2 were god rolls. I think I used up my luck for the rest of Into The Light

[@Heli]

DAMN, nice!

[@Kayamaro]

Running legend?

[@Nadiki]

@@Kayamaro nope, it was on normal. Done 3 full 50 legend runs and haven't had a shiny drop from any of them lmao

[@Kayamaro]

@@Nadiki yeah I have only gotten one legend drop, last night I got 1 doing the ten round playlist then another turning in 30 trophies lol

[@COREcasual]

I still have my original midnight coup in my vault. It only has 16k kills but it will never be deleted. It's the only sunset weapon I've kept because I loved it so much back then

[@alexradivojevic5929]

Same

[@culguyvegeta]

But what's the point of keeping it?

[@COREcasual]

@@culguyvegeta sentiment

[@medicfdumbo]

Same

[@culguyvegeta]

@@COREcasual there's no place for sentiment in a looter shooter.

[@JetEye-Knight]

That shiny Edge Transit with Full Court and Sticky nades is really fun for PVP. You just launch it across the map, getting more damage because of Full Court, and unsuspecting players walk right into the trap, and BOOM.

[@DoDaPassiphant]

@10:06 „Yes, Edge Transit! Off course it is.“ 😂 Someone got hurt in Forsaken back then. 😭😂

[@matthewhilliker]

From what I understand you actually want hard launch and implosion round on The Mountaintop to drop the blast radius as low as possible. Lower blast radius means less damage is used on AOE, which the launcher already struggles with.

[@rafaelhernandez6717]

Yay Heli Vid!! That means entertaineest of content! 🚁💙

[@ButteLicher]

had no idea you get get them from the chest. glad i saved them, will use them when hammerhead rolls around.

[@gills10975]

Why hammerhead?

[@UmbrasMercy]

​@@gills10975 just a guess but alot of us dont have a commeration crafted. So HH is our best alternative if you dont wanna raid.

[@ButteLicher]

@@gills10975 it's my favorite lmg.

[@rithvikmuthyalapati9754]

@@gills10975 Hammerhead was the best LMG in the game until they sunset it. Then Commemoration came and it had hype because it was similar to Hammerhead.

[@jonahbrown5669]

​@@UmbrasMercyHammerhead has rolls that are better than a crafted Commemoration in terms of DPS and total damage, but Commemoration will always be great because of Reconstruction

[@XAL]

Full court gives a damage increase for airtime, but with sticky nades since it stays on the ground it gets the full damage bonus. Basically you have a strong proximity mine GL. It is a niche god roll, definitely worth keeping.

[@SouperGoop]

Just an fyi, lowering the blast radius on mountain top = more damage because most of its damage comes from the impact. The best combo would be hard launch + implosion rounds. Hard launch is the main thing you want. Hard+ spike is only 28 damage, yes 28 points of damage less than hard + implosion.

[@p8blue]

@Heli made a D2 package opening??? I feel like my world is upside down but not in a bad way!! This is exciting and honestly your package opening vids are some of the only Destiny videos I ever watch anymore. Thank you @Heli

[@Silencers]

Full court is maxed one the longer the projectile travels. Sticky grenades on count as "travelling" when stuck on walls. It's a lot of fun in pvp

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

Not quite true. Its not based on the distance traveled but rather how long the projectile has been out and “active” before exploading. With anything that blows up on impact, that translates to air time. Sticky grenades however can be set on a surface, allowing it to stay “active” long enough for it to benefit from Full Court

[@mason66222]

bro I actually love these videos sm

[@FlareKnight808]

So, TLDR for Mountaintop's left 2 columns: Without hard launch, Take Implosion (more dmg by a lot) With hard launch, Spike and Implosion are basically tied for dmg. (Implosion still beats spike by like 0.01% dmg)

[@MrMultiPlatform]

This has been disproven

[@FlareKnight808]

@@MrMultiPlatform Sorry kinda rushed through my own testing, but I got consistent numbers throughout it just now. Not sure what people easily test on dmg nowadays so I went with minibosses @ sorrow's harbor. 59,028 total for Spike + Hard Launch 59,051 total for Implosion + Hard Launch 23 dmg difference in favor of implosion. Earlier I was also told that implosion was worse by a friend who was trying them out in a raid, so if I had to guess maybe explosion dmg scales lower than impact dmg on certain bosses? Either way I'm still standing by that Implosion+HL and Spike+HL are very similar.

[@Heli]

@@FlareKnight808 I appreciate the info! :)

[@ArchangelNashan]

For that Midnight Coup use Smallbore 100%!!! And there has been Damage testing done on Mountaintop that Blast Radius actively hurts the damage so most roll appraisers I see want Hard Launch and Implosion Rounds with Handling Masterwork while running Auto-loading and Recombination for perks.

[@nedsims67]

Would love another at the end of the season Awesome vid

[@Heli]

will do! and thank you very much :)

[@iRayyQu]

hard launch, implosion rounds, auto loading holster, recombination is the godrole, really good for high damage single shots, deals up to 150k against yellow bars

[@ilikealmondmilkyeet1441]

in terms of damage that would be the God roll but in general that is just not it

[@jayplummer6752]

Overload and recombination is fire ! U get 2 shots all the time when u get ammo

[@Just_be_yourself109]

Do you think before you speak?

[@theGentlemanCaller73]

70 runs of Onslaught. One shiny. That's it. YOu've gotten more shinys in this vid that I've gotten in nearly two weeks. I tuned out. Ain't nobody got time for this grind.

[@scrotumscratcher2474]

It’s crazy you’re taking the shinys so seriously. You’ve definitely fallen for the FOMO. The activity doesn’t leave and the guns don’t leave. Just the double roll “cool” looking versions. Get the regular god roll and just masterwork it. If you get the shiny then replace the other. Really not that deep

[@Wormy_fren]

Honestly man Your luck has just been horrid. I've gotten like at least two dozen shinies so far. Think it's been less than 70 goes at onslaught.

[@heyoitsbrando]

70 runs of onslaught? you get 6 weapons per run. you're telling me you looted 420 weapons and only got 1 shiny?

[@Sancho-i3z]

Bro I got 4 shines from 2 normal runs

[@jordanmcdowell3739]

I’m with you in this. I’ve gotten one shiny out of god knows how many runs

[@kalebmoody-felix7896]

If you are using mountain top for damage, you want the blast radius to be as low as possible. Hard launch is the best barrel, spike is still good, keep an eye out for implosion rounds and automatically delete any mountaintop with a blast radius masterwork. You'll want sticky grenades, impulse amplifier, and a reload masterwork if you want to use mountaintop for movement although keep in mind that'll You'll need to wait until final shape comes out to get the most out of sticky grenades as due to mountaintop's high light level its easier to kill yourself with it. Once final shape drops and the light level increases, leave your movement mountaintop at the power floor so you can stack more sticky grenades without killing yourself

[@Krispies_]

Im like 99% MW dont affect the dmg of rockets or grenade launchers

[@epicgamerman7360]

Heli rewind precision jury is one of the main god rolls 💀 1:40 6:20 you want spike and sticky in the column, bare minimum one of them

[@Spartan-sz7km]

Not true. Implosion rounds >= spike now

[@Heli]

oh ffs lmao, i was only looking for explosive round with rewind, didn't realize precision was solid with it ☠ thank you for the info :)

[@justseth5589]

Turned in 200 tokens and not a single shiny for me. You got extremely lucky

[@itman9000]

Sounds like you got extremely unlucky

[@cleanboi9136]

yes it does sound like you got extremely unlucky

[@ilikealmondmilkyeet1441]

​@@cleanboi9136 heli got lucky go look up the drop rate of shinys it's super super low

[@anix2457]

300 for me and not a one.🤣

[@ukaryotik]

same here

[@LifelessTooth]

Due to the way damage is calculated on special GLs, having a lower blast radius stat causes direct impact hits to do more damage overall, so ideally on Mountaintop you want Hard launch, implosion rounds, and any masterwork other than blast radius. That's how you max out the baseline damage before worrying about your main damage perks. I'd still go with auto loading/recombination, but honestly the rest is up to you.

[@thecountrfeit]

Small bore is the better barrel. W Midnight Also! For mountaintop I’d recommend going Implosion rounds and Hard Launch as that does the most damage over all. It does more than spiked by 23. This is because of lower BR making it to deal more damage. Edit: Mountaintop deals 158 max in PvP on an impact. It’s not really that good unless you stack up 10x on recombination to one shot. However, the perk doesn’t work in PvP right now so mountaintop is just meh for the time being.

[@Heli]

hey Countr!! I appreciate the info very much :)

[@neist]

Full Court works with Sticky Grenades. The time on the ground counts as "in flight."

[@OG1Jayy]

It feels like instead of the weapons being randomly rolled, there are a handful of curated rolls that have varying rarity. I say this because I’ve gotten a bunch of all of the weapons and a large majority of them are the exact same roll, with only the first 2 columns being different most of the time.

[@alaskayoung3413]

bro i've gotten like 20 hammerheads with high impact reservecs and some other crap perk.... its like the one weapon i've farmed for days and have yet to get even one witgh onslaught, and only had 2 with killing tally. Its retarded. I literally switched attunements just to hope it changes my luck.

[@starkraven1148]

When went silent when the shiny midnight coup dropped I felt that 😂. Pretty much every shiny Succession I get is like that

[@Prowler690]

The way Mountaintop works you actually want a smaller blast radius to get more damage per shot. Hard launch / spike is one combo and you want anything as a masterwork EXCEPT blast radius.

[@21v__]

I opened 40 and only got 1 shiny. You're definitely lucky

[@calebhenry3601]

5:20 Hey, PvP sweat here with 120K lifetime defeats: I'd recommend smallbore for some stability and then slap on Counterbalance stock. That'll feel really good to use. Also, Recluse has 100 recoil. Use Hammer-forged.

[@lerux8392]

In term of special gls, smaller blast radius is more favorable for this archtype. Spike grenades have been nerfed but still solid. So ideally for pve auto with vorpal/recomb or one for all.

[@iamrydar]

for mountain top you want hard launch and implosion rounds then preferred perks also if you get a blast radius master work dont upgrade it.

[@damionh7218]

That first shiny coup roll you got is the epitome of my RNG with that gun. So many coups later still can’t get 2 damage perks. 2 shiny coups both dismantled because of the perk options

[@wynstonpercival]

My shiny Elsie's rifle has hammer forged ricochet rounds range masterwork, zen moment, underover, headseeker, kill clip. Literally all the best perks IMO for PvP

[@Energycomet12]

Just wanna say I am very jealous of that pvp coup. Ext/accurized/moving target/zen/range mw is pretty much my godroll. Recommend counter balance cuz it recoils to the left too much at 90, it'll feel super clean.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

90 isnt bad compared to base 80 at least

[@Energycomet12]

@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 cool guy made a vid showing it and I've tested myself, it is just as bad. It's pretty much the same deviation but mirrored the other direction

[@kingcurmudgeon8685]

Mountaintop should have hard launch and implosion rounds. Spike nades are slightly less damage now (only on mountaintop) You do not want blast radius on it, you want velocity. The other perks are whatever you like really. I like auto loading and frenzy.

[@surrenderb]

There is a way to get to ur vault when in the hall. Click on destination and on something like gambit but dont launch . Just click down or whatever u use to get to ur vault while in orbit.... ur wwlcome 😁 so far it works anywhere.. just tried in the enclave.. yes i know its a vault there.. just was seeing if its possible

[@TheMrMayo]

Maybe I'll sound like a dingus for asking this, but what would be the most efficient Trophies of Bravery farming as of now (especially when I can't join up for legend onslaughts or haven't completed legend yet)? I am willing to grind out solo as much as necessary, but haven't really found the time to figure out what farm is best (just play the playlist normally or do regular content since they can drop there too)?

[@sebfrost-holding6322]

Heli!!! It’s been so long since you’ve been in my recommended I’ve missed you

[@Heli]

much love my friend!

[@pirate_duck4985]

Yooooooo!! Called it 😄 On the community page I said 4 maybe 5!

[@CSPopcorn]

I’m returning after like 6 months, what’s the difference between a “shiny” and a regular?

[@omiejay]

I got a perfect shiny edge transit with add clear and boss dps perks all in one. Quick launch, spike nades, then chain reaction + destabilising for add clear, and cascade + bait n switch for boss dps. Cascade unloads crazy fast when procced.

[@JA-kr1lz]

That’s terrible boss damage lol. Cascade only worth while if you can combine with envious. If not then the boss dmg phase would have to be extremely short (like Atraks) but then you just use parasite lol. Also no one uses a heavy gl for ad clear

[@ImCarpet]

For me I’ve been using an autoloading/vorpal mountaintop and I love it! I could probably switch Vorpal for something else though, considering it’s not great at boss dps

[@ImCarpet]

These are basically loot boxes and I love it! I miss loot boxes.

[@nathanddrews]

I waited until I had ~350 tokens and once Hammerhead attunement was available I cashed them all in. I calculated ~80% drop rate for Hammerhead, and 5 total shiny weapons (2 of which were shiny Hammerhead). I also waited until that week to cash in all my Shaxx engrams. 100% Hammerheads.

[@n4n196]

That second shiny midnight coup... Is nice.

[@brandondennis7527]

That mountaintop isn't perfect, but certainly decent! Autoloading + Harmony works well together. And spike grenades aren't needed. Technically having lower blast radius increases damage, but the amount is negligible.

[@TVXcookie]

so you’re telling me, when i got elsie’s rifle, my FAVOURITE pulse rifle in the game because it belongs to my favourite character, it was an incredibly rare version of it? and i got it first try without even knowing what it was?! i thought it was just a cool wrap! (i started playing last week)

[@iamlivinginyourwalls4781]

extended barrel is not great on most hand cannons but midnight coup is good since it has a low range stat

[@jrockz133t]

3:58 yea that Mountaintop ain't good. You want low blast radius. As low as possible 4:55 yes. I focused Recluse and got a god damn Hung Jury. I was so pissed 6:14 no. After the spike nerf, you don't need spike

[@YoHester]

Do shinies have slightly better stats or exactly the same stats ?

[@charlesabuah2331]

It doesn't have better stats. The only difference is the exclusive ornament and double perks in the third and fourth columns.

[@YoHester]

@@charlesabuah2331 thanksss

[@k2peace795]

​@@charlesabuah2331is supposedly whatever you can get shiny, you'll be able to enhance next season. The few shiny I get are absolute trash rolls. Guess I should have waited till next week. lol

[@BarbWaltersMusic]

I am so jealous of the zen/mt pvp roll, damn it

[@Based_Shogun]

Thanks for the cores! Deconstruct for boss DPS goes pretty hard if you get it.

[@SuperRaids13]

That second gold midnight coup is a 5/5 PvP roll and I’m jealous AF

[@rafaelhernandez6717]

We keep thanks for the shards just use it metaphorically tbh!🚁💙

[@twentypandora96]

Bungie: You'll be raining in loot this update! Me During the Update: So that was a lie?

[@renegademikey2458]

Use flared magwell on that shiny recluse and use hammer forged instead of extended barrel and that thing is nice for pve.

[@jameswulfgang154]

I haven't gotten a shiny from either the normal or legend mode and I've been paying this thing nonstop. The only shiny guns I've gotten have been from the token box and the guaranteed one from the bounty.

[@Kulabaluka]

I've got a shiny midnight with firefly one for all and it's great in pve, one kill procs one for all and headshots do 19k and it procs itself every time. Very Pog.

[@gerardoayuso9002]

2nd shiny midnight coup is fantastic. Use smallbore

[@eblebdestiny]

Pve tryhard here. Implosion rounds for mountiantop is the best. You want as little blast radius as possible on it to increase the damage.

[@JUNIsLuke]

I respect the many hours it probably took to claim all those items

[@ColorDragon]

I feel like im super lucky getting pretty much regular rolls I want but have only gotten 3 shiny weapons after playing nonstop. I feel like my luck is generally tied to what I'm not necessarily looking. I often get something great.

[@iljagro772]

Bro that second midnight coup is such a perfect roll

[@vikingrari]

The rng blessed you. I watched a clanmate dump a full stack of 777 and got no shinies aha

[@ukaryotik]

sounds like me all week ive been trying for midnight coup shinies and got 0

[@rbm2269]

Loved the content bro.. keep it up 👍

[@Heli]

thank you very much :)

[@RandomTh1n9]

Also keep that full court sticky edge, pretty good for pvp

[@Dynasty1818]

Fair play they're not removing onslaught for TFS, but they need to up the rates of shiny drops. Sure they're meant to be a bit rare, but the rate is poor. And we can't even reset Shaxx to get engrams to help.

[@FatherDragonKal]

Glad to see the stats, if you can do another 50 opening for a full 100 pulls, that would be a decent statistic basis.

[@stevek6636]

I randomly came across this video, I fully expect you to have another 500 coins by the end of today... And another 500 coins after the end of tomorrow and do a 10,000 opening.

[@Heli]

I'm on it! Although I think 777 is the cap for the trophy tokens 😄

[@NickystixYT]

That midnight coup looking nice .

[@TheDarthcow]

Don’t feel bad Helly I never even played the Leviathan raid!! in fact in all of Destiny 2 I’ve only done the scourge of the past and the root of nightmares raid to completion and that’s it haha team no friends

[@jonathancotter7429]

the max range moving target, zen is the god roll midnight coup

[@Kideem]

I’ve literally never gotten a shiny from that chest lmao. I didn’t even know you could and I’ve opened it like 30-40 times. I thought it was a drop directly from onslaught.

[@sunmv5926]

Mountaintop with implosions is about the same as spike (its like a 0.01% decrease)

[@XbladedGG]

I got a shiny midnight coup with attrition orbs and kinetic tremors

[@theveryamericaneagle3657]

I heard the tremors trigger attrition orbs fast

[@RandomTh1n9]

You can enhance shoot to loot on that shiny midnight, and it will give you 5 extra range

[@Heli]

good shout actually! keep forgetting that :)

[@olmanfalcy3209]

yes this is the heli content i LOVE

[@Heartlessi]

The Repulsur Brace Frenzy Recluse u got is pretty much a god roll for PVE void builds

[@FinxOmally]

Heli with another opening video and making the internet mad with things he deletes.. love to see it! I still want the We-wind-wounds / precision instrument Hung jury.. one day..

[@Heli]

hahaha! great to see you as always Finx 💙 I regret getting rid of that Hung Jury! I'm looking for Rewind / Explosive Payload currently and didn't even consider Precision Instrument. BAH.

[@FinxOmally]

@@Heli For PvE Prec. Inst. is great. I have no idea if does much in PvP though. I leave PvP stuff up to you. ☺

[@Tromboo]

I haven’t gotten a shiny in close to 50 engrams/chests lmao. Love having something to finally chase

[@WashedBlack]

I love your engram openings I just played against you!!!!!

[@khaliliuss]

He lives! Been a while seeing you man!

[@silent--killz3176]

U guys are getting shinny weapons? I've been playing since into the light released, did all weapon quests, ranked shaxx to Max, grinded onsault for more hours then I can count. Completed 50 waves and still not one has dropped. My rng is abysmal

[@VRJmedia]

Solid midnight coup with moving zen

[@andrizzle5887]

You gtta be trolling with some of those dismantles 💀

[@mitchbeast1246]

Even if attuned you can get other shiny weapons. I'm attuned to MT and have got shinys of everything but MT.

[@MidnightDrake]

I think "Thanks for the KOREs" would be good. Emphasis on the K. Pretty dramatic and still pretty ok.

[@ypcomchic]

I’ve gotten two shiny’s yet they only have one row of perks? Is this a glitch? Aren’t they supposed to have 2??

[@92lurzan]

one row perks are the fixed roll shiny from the quest. its a guarantee drop

[@jamieharper1051]

That recluse was really good

[@Midoriblitz]

D2 turning into Pokemon now as we go shiny-hunting 🤭😂

[@Highwind2037]

I've been stressed out lately, needed this video

[@Heli]

much love, Omega :)