50049 coughs & splutters into life at Derby 19th March 2018 after being shut down for 2 freezing nights
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@surebrec51134 жыл бұрын
I just watched nearly 9 minutes of someone trying to start a train. if this is not testament to the fact that I'll sit and watch anything late at night when I can't sleep, I don't know what is.
@vondahe4 жыл бұрын
Surebrec Some of us even watch it, struggling not to fall asleep.
@philiprhodes55374 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣😂
@BlueSteel3314 жыл бұрын
actually it's a *locomotive* - not a 'train'.
@surebrec51134 жыл бұрын
@@BlueSteel331 thanks pedant.
@fft20204 жыл бұрын
Its 1 am mate... this is the 4th loco start video for me tonite
@tontobb8956 Жыл бұрын
A round of applause for the true hero in this story The battery and his cousin the starter motor We bow down to your endurance
@richardraynor5242 Жыл бұрын
I found it hard to tell exactly when it was running under its own power 🙂
@sverek Жыл бұрын
@@richardraynor5242 That's actually interesting, I have very little knowledge on diesel engines. As I understand some cylinders started to properly combust before others, as you can tell by the color of the smoke from each exhaust. So this could mean that cylinders that did good combust pushed the crankshaft and helped other cylinders?
@pixel288 Жыл бұрын
Just the battery. Usually on big locos like this the use the main generator as a starter. Run power through them and the turn, turn ‘em and they make power.
@CreRay9 ай бұрын
@@sverek Correct
@forrestkoland52965 ай бұрын
How about a little starting fluid?
@shane48495 жыл бұрын
And there's me cleaning out jam jars and recycling them to save the planet........
@markwilson80024 жыл бұрын
Yeah.... But it's the thought that counts
@richardcoles24324 жыл бұрын
This made me chuckle
@rokitman57533 жыл бұрын
Do it for your country
@Housephonestimes43 жыл бұрын
Stop concentrating on ONE HEADS, and think about 19000 trees being cut down every minute! A diesel locomotive is only a ONE HEAD! I am sick and tired of people accusing ONE HEADS of harming our planet!
@shane48493 жыл бұрын
@@Housephonestimes4 who took jam outa your doughnut? Calm down it was only a joke 👍🏼😂😂😂
@juliemason97846 жыл бұрын
I wish my car would start as quickly and smoothly as this in the mornings.
@adenlamb99166 жыл бұрын
I wish *I* could start as quickly and smoothly as this in the mornings.
@benconway90105 жыл бұрын
I wish my car would start full stop
@jijzer32844 жыл бұрын
Looks like my start in the morning
@spacebanana14 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a car
@fft20204 жыл бұрын
quickly and smoothly hahahahahahaha I wish I would start this quickly and smoothly every morning
@termite26914 жыл бұрын
I was eagerly awaiting the moment it started to run properly and purr like a finely tuned beast ... but sadly all that happened was the video ended.
@chroni493 Жыл бұрын
@@satunnainenkatselija4478 the limit is at 30 minutes for cameras! The 10 minutes are mostly from slow SD cards/storage or sometimes overheating of the camera itself.
@IstasPumaNevada Жыл бұрын
@@satunnainenkatselija4478 As Chroni said, it's 30 minutes, not 10. My DSLR's video length is capped at exactly 29:59 for this reason. I happily would've paid the extra tax on my camera model for it to not have an artificial video length. Ah well.
@SDH-g8g5 жыл бұрын
Some say it still isn't running on all cylinders to this day...
@grahamstretch68634 жыл бұрын
If the fuel injection was made by Lucas they are probably right! 🤣
@cidertom51405 ай бұрын
@@grahamstretch6863could be CAV.
@richardpotter7123 жыл бұрын
I liked the way the driver opened the window for some fresh air.
@ru8775 Жыл бұрын
Ja 😂
@chrisn507911 ай бұрын
If they had revved her up a little, this problem wouldn't have lasted 30 minutes. Instead they keep her at dead idle. 😕
@jpsholland3 жыл бұрын
All countries: locomotive startup look like an locomotive startup England: locomotive startup look like an eruption of the Vesuvius...
@MrRonan36 жыл бұрын
my wife said. what are you watching in their?. 9 minutes of filf i said,
@spuds4t6 жыл бұрын
Nuff said!
@Kromaatikse6 жыл бұрын
...and that's when the argument started, m'lud.
@chrislewis87066 жыл бұрын
haha
@brendanjarvis23066 жыл бұрын
That’s sensational 😂 mine just asked the same thing
@arthurvin29375 жыл бұрын
Women are so strange...
@trevortrevortsr26 жыл бұрын
I recon VW got them through emmisions : )
@tomlowe85636 жыл бұрын
Trev S I don't buy polos at the local sweet shop purely for their emissions😜
@harrytd5 жыл бұрын
Ha, ha brilliant!
@АкылжанБекбергенов5 жыл бұрын
@@harrytd Жақсы кун
@davidsedlickas82224 жыл бұрын
VW killed more brits than the Luftwaffe.
@MrScotia6 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ the smoke was even coming out of my laptop....cough cough
@g8ymw5 жыл бұрын
You can almost taste the unburñed diesel
@scdevon5 жыл бұрын
Ever see a Budd RDC rail car cold start its Detroit Diesels? The whole area code gets smoked out. No wonder you used to see old diesels sitting around idling all the time in winter.
@adrianmorris37724 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is sacred.......have respect please.
@grahamstretch68634 жыл бұрын
Adrian Morris Jesus Christ you religious nuts get everywhere! god, jesus and all the rest are as fictitious as superman and batman! 🙄🙄 This is a real locomotive and real smoke, get over yourself!
@robloxrichgamer24253 жыл бұрын
He is just joking
@Rivenworld4 жыл бұрын
OMG! I remember coming into Selhurst depot to work one morning many year ago and seeing something similar, the fog was so thick you could only see about 3 feet ahead of you, and the smell of diesel! Wow!
@gdogg37104 жыл бұрын
That was like an extended intro version of ‘Hot for teacher’ by Van Halen...
@sutartthepiano70963 жыл бұрын
Drum solo at intro lol
@DOCTORDROTT5 жыл бұрын
In BR days the engines were not shut down that often, only for maintenance.I have worked on all types of diesel traction over decades including 50's This was two days ! So we never got to this stage of the 50. Check out the cold start class 60 video. I was on that job. Loco shut down for a week. Flat batteries and ice in the cabs. That took a couple of hours to charge up and run right. It would only run on two cylinders to start with
@nomon955 жыл бұрын
yeap,started with two cylinders only. But something was wrong,compression rings, or if it have a charger,a ckeck is necesary. took a lot of tme for warm . the batteries is correct,loose a lot of energy in cold days.
@reini3006 Жыл бұрын
Definition of EE Diesel loco: Cross breed of smoke screen generator and flamethrower :-) Love these old locos!
@funkymonkeypimps5 жыл бұрын
14 icebergs, 3 rainforests and a David Attenborough were killed in the starting of this loco!
@benconway90105 жыл бұрын
Don't be daft this would never kill attenborough hes totally invincible
@RONNEY123ful4 жыл бұрын
Funkymonkeypimps 😂😂😂
@wolfe19704 жыл бұрын
Most of what you see here is just steam...
@gerardjones78814 жыл бұрын
I'll pay for the deisel.
@philiprhodes55374 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough i was just thinking how the ozone layer faired up with all that pollution i reckon its totalled now and the hole in it is now the size of a black hole
@groggers5 жыл бұрын
You either like the environment or heritage diesels... I'll take the trains thanks
@utharkruna11164 жыл бұрын
I love the environment and nature, but i really love big diesel motors.
@ws1ashford3044 жыл бұрын
Same @Urhark Runa
@Hai_da4 жыл бұрын
Don't really have a choice if there's to be a sustainable future
@prinz10ga3 жыл бұрын
I love trains.... that said Greg is hopelessly what’s wrong with environmental issues
@r3playretro4 жыл бұрын
The whole of Derby smelt loco 50049 exhaust fumes that morning. Wonderful
@muttt.whopull32524 жыл бұрын
This loco has stolen my childhood, how dare you!!!
@markjones47044 жыл бұрын
And my dreams how dare you start it up
@gerardjones78814 жыл бұрын
We come to you for answers. What's the answer?
@markjones47044 жыл бұрын
More trees and plants around he world they filter all that shit out and give us oxygen she should be on a world tour raising cash to grow and plant them everywhere starting in China surely its common sense
@johnmilburn57155 ай бұрын
I'm sure I saw Greater Turdberg splutter8ng her way thro7gh 5hat 😊
@DieyoungDiefast6 жыл бұрын
Slightly different, but it reminds me of trying to start a Foden 6x6 gun tractor in the workshop yard one winter in the late 80s. 6 Cylinder Rolls Royce Eagle engine and after about 30 secs cranking I got it to fire on one cylinder. The amount of white smoke coming out of the exhaust was like a thick fog bank, couldn't see anything. Think it took me 10 mins before it was running on all 6. Gotta love the smell of unburnt diesel in the morning ;)
@andrewlee49384 жыл бұрын
DieyoungDiefast sounds very similar to one of my dads old leylands with the eagle in it Miss that smell and the anticipation trying to work out if it would get on the road that day
@conkeroonee6 жыл бұрын
That's why you don't shut them down in freezing weather. Great video ! !
@anthonybaker12246 жыл бұрын
There's nothing like clean air....and thats nothing like clean air.
@utharkruna11163 жыл бұрын
That's cause there's nothing like big diesel.
@ReZiN8R6 жыл бұрын
I think this video should be age restricted it's absolute pure filth!!! I've searched a few times in the past for hoover cold starts and this is definitely best class 50 start up vid i've ever seen. Cheers for uploading. You've done a brilliant job!! :) I really miss the days we had proper loco's instead of all the aweful imported garden sheds and buses on rails like now. Wish i'd been at Derby to see this beast. I'll never forget how happy i felt seeing my first 50 in Waterloo before they got withdrawn from service. :(
@bababooey75766 жыл бұрын
40145 cold start at Castle Croft is an awesome start up.. slightly different class, but the same kind enough to awesomeness.
@vsvnrg32635 жыл бұрын
rezin8r, that imported yank shit has a proven record of performance and ultra reliability. check out some yank or canadian videos and see the size of the trains in the most efficient rail systems in the world. uk and europe still use coupling systems invented in the early 1800's. english electric locos may have been an equal to yank stuff 60 years ago. since then, the english companies built shit knowing the home market would buy it and allowed quality to drop. fail. the europeans still have faith in hydraulics. fail. even the chinese will import big yank shit. because they are running railways for profit, not fun palaces for us train nerds. by the way it took a while to work out the meaning of your name-very clever. i'm impressed. i'm not easily impressed.
@Gavs_rc_hobbies4 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine Greta Thunberg sitting in a corner rocking back and forth sucking her thumb watching this loco start up lol.
@PaulRoseGuitar4 жыл бұрын
Marvellous innit..
@papabits57214 жыл бұрын
xrayracer1 but she’s so adorable! People who don’t understand this kind of thing will never get it
@maddogmcrae4 жыл бұрын
How dare you!!! 😂
@ebddenby84394 жыл бұрын
Joking aside where Gretta is consernd I feel for her she is scripted by the government who are officially exploiting a teen and a person with a hidden disability Greta is asperges we are passionate about what we are led to believe but she is far to young to be leading a campaign. Also been asperges like me which a lot of people litrally only 8 years ago would call us spastics Its going to be hard when the government drop her like a hot brick I bet the eco followers won't care for her then. They won't give her a second thought. That's what pains me about Gretta not the false emmisions scam the fact these big wigs are ruining her life without a second thought.
@Irish79923 жыл бұрын
Lol why would you imagine that?
@vsvnrg32636 жыл бұрын
i can't remember where i saw it, but i'm sure i saw a russian crew start a difficult loco under bloody cold conditions by holding a lit diesel soaked rag over the engine intake. it worked a treat. another trick which may or may not work on a diesel was butane. i watched a bloke hold the nozzle of a portable burner gas can down aiming it at the intake while pull starting a flooded chainsaw. the butane got the thing to start in spite of being well and truly flooded by yours truly who had borrowed it of him. he said the trick worked for all engines.
@v6200man6 жыл бұрын
Great sequencing of popping and banging there John - love the fuel combusts!!
@smogmonster18764 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know the class 50 was a steam loco.
@vingotaq7774 жыл бұрын
It was a relief when he finally opened that throttle a little at 7:03
@mortenfrosthansen84 Жыл бұрын
That's just idle.. the other was with the choker on
@gosportjamie5 жыл бұрын
Engine room, this is the Captain. Make smoke...
@pauljohansson76975 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah we will.
@benconway90105 жыл бұрын
Set a smoke screen!!!!
@Kris-qy7hh5 жыл бұрын
Warships in WW2 should’ve had this as a smoke generator 🤣
@nigelterry92996 жыл бұрын
Another typically grumpy, one cylinder at a time, EE cold start. I love 'em!!!!
@thechilledonion93133 жыл бұрын
And remember, it is against the law to smoke on the platforms.
@shobuddy4 жыл бұрын
That startup burned enough fuel to fill the tank in my car.
@g8ymw3 жыл бұрын
Quite possible, 10 inch bore, 12 inch stroke and 16 of them
@glennpowell3444 Жыл бұрын
@@g8ymw With a big bang firing order aswell.EE,s were fantastic but were pigs to start and each cylinder to catch.Two pots firing at a time running down the crank from end to end.The turbos blew alot of diesel out which tried to ignite and caused the flames.Love them.
@anth73546 жыл бұрын
The Euro 6 engine still needs work
@andyrigby50106 жыл бұрын
Defiance was definitely feeling defiant that day, lol :) Great Job John!!
@arthurstrainset78714 жыл бұрын
I work as a volunteer on the Watercress line in Hampshire, we have a class 50 called Lion, it s owned by a private family and I was fortunate enough to be in the cab when they started it up for testing, what a great sound when 16 cylinders come to life!
@TheGWRailfan4 жыл бұрын
Show this to the green party bet they'd love it!
@MagnetOnlyMotors4 жыл бұрын
2:01 like seeing flames come out.
@confusedwolf71574 жыл бұрын
How I feel starting in mornings!!
@jimjackson4256 Жыл бұрын
That is one heck of a starter motor.A block heater and some quickstart would speed the process along.
@scdevon Жыл бұрын
Healthy batteries, too if these start on battery power. I think sometimes they need battery boosters to cold start, but it seems like this one started on its own..
@evilchelseasmile77293 жыл бұрын
That's less pollution than David Attenborough has produced flying around the world ever year doing documentaries, funny how he is all environmental now after making his millions!!
@freespeech36733 жыл бұрын
Attenborough has gone down in my opinion. How many woke 90+ year olds can there be?
@voidjavelin2315 күн бұрын
looks like taylor swift got a competitor
@voidjavelin2315 күн бұрын
looks like taylor swift got a competitor
@cameronrich36276 жыл бұрын
That's another load of environmentalists just had fits !
@holnrew4 жыл бұрын
Why? Rail travel and haulage is much better for the environment than road.
@johnanderson38533 жыл бұрын
Let them walk from the bottom of England to the north, swim across the channel, and take the silk road to china and then sail to Japan.
@RightAwayProductions0053 жыл бұрын
Thing is, right, im 16, im aware of the climate, i dont doubt climate change exists, im worried abt it, but i find stuff like this enjoyable to say the least. What does that say abt me😂
@Dylan_Mescall2 ай бұрын
The driver asking “ready” at the start, he seems so nice.
@nomon956 жыл бұрын
Start with only two cylinders,,the othere generates clag ,very flammable,and this is the reason for the splutters and flames
@robinfryer4792 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that they don’t have immersion heaters in their cooling systems, to keep their cylinder blocks warm. Similarly their sumps. Some big engines have steam trace to mitigate the effects of thermal stressing.
@stbu97093 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of an Austin Montego I had many moons ago! The automatic choke (remember them?) wouldn’t operate when cold, but would suddenly open wide when the engine got hot! It burnt gallons of leaded! 😂
@vengaboydk6 жыл бұрын
Can't help wondering how much diesel was spent on this!
@alanmusicman3385 Жыл бұрын
Love the 50s - but they did get very dog eared toward the end of their mainline use. I remember getting into the leading coach of a train at Waterlook in the very late 1980s. A class 50 was pulling and there was a very strong smell of fuel (not exhaust) coming from it. There were a group of anoraks in the very front seats taking bets with one another about where it would fail (as they very often did then). The smell persisted through the journey. I got out at Woking so I don't know who won the bet!
@fft20204 жыл бұрын
Guys guys guys .... that smoke is mostly unburnt fuel that quickly precipitates out of the air as black sooth and grease... there is only a bit of CO2 and some NOx but nothing fantastic and different from a normal engine operation Because the smoke is visible people stress out with this environment thing...
@johngoodale49614 жыл бұрын
Well said! It's really amusing reading some of the nonsense posted here!
@Xetta_Mode Жыл бұрын
The diesel was trying to spit a fire mixtape before getting to work 😂
@gcfcos6 жыл бұрын
Wow what a beast! Must have been bloody cold that engine
@adammoss5284 Жыл бұрын
I’m reckoning Jack Frost had a merry old dance the night before
@timsharkey19934 жыл бұрын
“Um, Sir Topham Hatt? This is the main switchboard, sir. There is a Ms Ocasio-Cortez on line one for you.”
@Ste30h5 жыл бұрын
awesome! i remember them passing my house some nights helping install the new electric system :( ,,,,such a great noise and the horns were brilliant...oh the good old days.
@JeffreyStrader2 жыл бұрын
Technically one could hook up a Diesel Locomotive to the power grid and use it for electrical power in a small town.
@paulbutterworthbillericay3 жыл бұрын
Can see why they want to go electric, but I can tell you theres nothing like the power of these diesels seriously powerfull
@SuperCarManUK2 жыл бұрын
Rumour has it his finger is still on the starter button
@dampfonautl8754 Жыл бұрын
Well, my car could drive 50 miles or more on this enormous amount of diesel fuel vaporized 😅 But seriously, here in Germany diesel locos are connected to the power grid when not on duty, to load the batteries and keep the motor warm by electrically heating the cooling system. Older locos could be pre heated with steam or had a small auxiliary diesel engine to warm up the coolant of the main engine.
@CXensation4 жыл бұрын
Impressive British technology, best smoke machine ever built ...
@andypreston15246 жыл бұрын
How gorgeous! Thanks John, great vid as always!
@jaketaylor36116 жыл бұрын
Music to my ears!
@formidable386 жыл бұрын
INDEED!!!!!
@jamesgarlick25329 ай бұрын
Beautiful 😍 🤩 love my deseal train shame see many them but do love watching them ❤❤❤
@apollo1564 жыл бұрын
Amazing diesel engine sound
@johngoodale49615 жыл бұрын
Yes these are preserved & 4 or 5 class 50's come out on the main line occasionally still. There are also class 20's class 37's & 47's still on the main line all be it only a few
@ianhosier40422 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the car I had when I was a student except that loco is a lot easier to start and probably doesnt leak water, oil and brake fluid! It gives a brand new meaning to the term not firing on all cylinders.
@tomrogers9467 Жыл бұрын
Ford, right?
@ГришаКостинян Жыл бұрын
Turbo
@tommystearns30735 жыл бұрын
I love watching these english locos struggle to cold start and warm up with all the sputtering and backfiring
@paulmeekcoms2174 жыл бұрын
Apparently, diesels are dirty! Can't see it myself.
@markbarraclough74564 жыл бұрын
Once had a Honda Accord, that took longer to start than this train, and it was eay more clag lol
@vanillacoffee6 жыл бұрын
So this is better than steam right?
@grahamlea21605 жыл бұрын
YES STEAM LOCOS ARE CLEANER.
@stevemacisaac26335 жыл бұрын
graham lea no they aren’t
@markwilson80024 жыл бұрын
So much better than Kettles...not in the same league. On the sixth day, god created the class 50
@ttvvideos20503 жыл бұрын
Diesels >>>> Kettles >>>>> Electrics
@loluspololus3 жыл бұрын
Very good video
@thomaspalmer10195 жыл бұрын
I have heard even a Class 37 make a better startup sound than a Class 50.
@deancossins8557 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video quality
@oddities-whatnot6 жыл бұрын
Nice tune its playing as the smoke fills the nostrils. Id be late for work if my van took that long to start !
@peterwoods53106 жыл бұрын
Ships engines are fitted standard with fuel pre-heating.
@rowanlidbury6 жыл бұрын
Epic start! How long would you have to keep you finger on the starter in this video..?
@labbo55913 жыл бұрын
So just to clarify things, it is steam, not diesel!😂😂😂😂
@mattapacca6 жыл бұрын
Great Video!. I also find it funny that no-one, up to now, has bothered to dignify Sean Kirby's comment with a response!.
@altt-check1-26 ай бұрын
Those pistons are having a rite old disco
@paulanderson796 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my father-in-law's treasured but neglected 5 Series.
@terryhunt95955 жыл бұрын
Brilliant rendition of this! Well put together!!
@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway3 жыл бұрын
Most excellent. Pure magic. 🚂🚃🚃🚃
@thebrummierailenthusiasts53296 жыл бұрын
looks like the class 50 locomotive of 50049 looks like its struggling to fire up john that way it keeps on spluttering
@chrisbarnes28232 жыл бұрын
Now if there was only a way to pre-heat the engine in day and age?? In our Canadian winter my diesel truck stays in my garage overnight and has a block plus oil pan heater, there is also a heater pad on the transmission pan.
@RUFU58 Жыл бұрын
This is what it’s like starting my old fiesta in the morning at the moment with this cold snap.
@stestewart11196 жыл бұрын
And to add you dont get this on hornby DCC sound lol
@stefankassbohrer27654 жыл бұрын
Why do the engines start so bad when cold? Is it the large displacement ? Aren´t the engines preheated or don´t they have a flame start system in the air intake pipe, like a truck ? As i know the engine oil is pre-heated and the engine is getting pre-lubricated before starting. Greetings from south Germany
@johngoodale49614 жыл бұрын
No pre-heat here just a large cold V16 coming to life slowly
@nigelterry92995 жыл бұрын
Typical EE cold start. Grumpy as they come and one grudging cylinder at a time!
@andygotting91525 жыл бұрын
My old Renault\Dodge Commando used to start like this.
@formidable386 жыл бұрын
Simply beautiful ear candy!
@komradepistoff65843 жыл бұрын
That's my Mitsubishi EVERY morning lately.
@jamescampbell778011 ай бұрын
A time lapse on this video would be great!
@jaredkennedy6576 Жыл бұрын
That's about how my truck started today despite being in the garage. Grumpy old mechanical diesels.
@kevinkrebs2394 жыл бұрын
That start will kill any mosquitoes that the cold weather didn't!
@amessman7 ай бұрын
Do you guys leave them running over there in the UK? Here in the states the power usually just sits idling when not used, to keep it warm. Newer locos turn on and off periodically and some have auxiliary engines to keep coolant warm.
@john5229826 жыл бұрын
That is actually more smoke than the old Metro-vicks (Class 28) used to produce!
@joshjones34086 ай бұрын
Don't forget about the three cim hole in the ozon
@2E0PGS6 жыл бұрын
Damn that's a proper train video!
@theflyingfool Жыл бұрын
3.05 disconnects the jump start battery leads... did these things use glowplugs or just friction of the rings ion the bore to light the diesel?
@johngoodale4961 Жыл бұрын
No pre-heat of any kind here
@MrJimbaloid3 жыл бұрын
How dare you.
@seankirby25806 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, in Europe, the Thalys zooms along at 300kph, accommodating 1.2kV DC or 25kV AC. British engineering, eh?
@groggers5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see your preserved heritage fifty year old diesel locomotives start up on a cold morning.
@jamesgarlick25329 ай бұрын
Thanks this video
@glennpowell3444 Жыл бұрын
Never got running on all her pots?Trying the same as class37,s.Similar engines.Must have smelt like nectar to someone like me all that clag.Great engines but buggars to run cold.
@fatboyjai3 жыл бұрын
Silly question but I’ll ask anyway, way fo diesel trains do this but not other Diesel engines, is it because of their size ?
@johngoodale49613 жыл бұрын
I think so plus there's no glow plugs like a car diesel or pre-heating so you're relying on compression to create heat to combust the diesel. Most of the "smoke" is unburnt diesel vapour