50mm - Why I Don't Recommend This Lens & How To Choose Your Next One!

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Jason Vong

Jason Vong

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@JasonVong
@JasonVong 5 жыл бұрын
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@withoutpassid
@withoutpassid 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Vong Sony Zeiss 24 1.8. Lacking OSS is a pain for my shaky hand, when it is paired with my a6300. I ended up using the 16-70 a lot more, even in low light.
@HueyPProductions
@HueyPProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Sigma 18-35 1.8 nobody every told me that thing is heavy
@mr.whoneedsit7856
@mr.whoneedsit7856 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason how come students always get the discounts? What about us broke as f parents who pay for their kids college etc etc lol
@JasonVong
@JasonVong 5 жыл бұрын
@@HueyPProductions YEP! It's heavy hahaha!
@JasonVong
@JasonVong 5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.whoneedsit7856 Use your kids student ID to apply 😂😂😂
@chosenideahandle
@chosenideahandle 5 жыл бұрын
For portraits I like to still stick to a 56mm to 85mm f/1.4 or f 1.8 crop or not. Regardless of having to move back sometimes, the compression plus the large aperture are hard to beat when working together for separation. People can also start looking a little unnatural if you happen to get too close with those wider focal lengths.
@ATMTech
@ATMTech 5 жыл бұрын
This is SO TRUE! People used to shout about how usable and versatile the 50mm focal length was but I found I never had enough space for me to back up and was only really good in wide open spaces or controlled environments. Having switched to a full frame years later, I now see what people were talking about! And properly understood that I was actually at a roughly 80mm focal length on my APSC!
@NickBarang
@NickBarang 5 жыл бұрын
I really hated my 50mm on a crop sensor, until I moved to a full-frame and it was awesome. Then, I went back to a crop and I love the 50 mm now. It's essentially the portrait lens that we all need. Terrible for street and general use, though. I like my 23 mm most for that.
@Assassunn
@Assassunn 2 жыл бұрын
Do you use a 23mm on APS-C ?
@likelupiniii3466
@likelupiniii3466 5 жыл бұрын
I found the part about you not fully understanding crop sensors dope. Would love to see a video about your journey as a photographer from beginning to now. Like about your first camera, your first big break, your inspiration or what led to you becoming a photographer. I think it'd be dope.
@bokbokeh
@bokbokeh 5 жыл бұрын
This should be a series for beginners! “You’re doing it Vong!”
@TJuice1986
@TJuice1986 5 жыл бұрын
What the hell is “Vong” with you?
@XRP_321
@XRP_321 5 жыл бұрын
im the 100th like
@jklphoto
@jklphoto 4 жыл бұрын
A funnier, and actually educational series, could be called Vong is Wong!
@jeroenjansen2709
@jeroenjansen2709 4 жыл бұрын
Sum Ting Vong
@kiyoshim9593
@kiyoshim9593 4 жыл бұрын
he is misleading people with his video. People should stick to read the lens specifications. for example Sony50mm E 32° angle of view. Sigma50mm E 47° angle of view. Sony50mm FE 47° angle of view.
@hijavie
@hijavie 4 жыл бұрын
@ 5:44 you say that also true for APS-C lenses made for crop sensors. You have to multiply it. Is that true I thought if it is a lens made for crop sensors like a canon EFS, then there no multiplication needed.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
The crop factor is a property of the sensor, not of the lens. If does not matter what lens you use. The crop factor is not something real. It is just because full frame sensor is 36 mm wide and APS-C is 22.3 mm wide. This is basically all you need to know and you can reduce everything from it. 36 / 22.3 = 1.61. Note it is pure an convention that the 35 mm equivalences are used as a standard. They are no more real than anyone else. If you want to take a photo that has as much horizontally than is the distance you must use cal length that is same as the sensor width. That is 36 mm (or 35 mm) on full frame. On APS-C you should use 22 mm (or 24 mm). Whether the lens is FF or APS-C does not matter. The former just spreads light more outside the sensor. Now there is one case where the lens does matter and that is especially with mirrorless cameras. If you use an EF-S or EF-S lens on full frame EOS R-series camera you must apply the crop factor as the camera goes into crop mode. So technically the crop factor is the maximum of the crop factors of the body and the lens. With Canon DSLR s that is not an issue as they cannot use crop lenses.
@glacieractivity
@glacieractivity 5 жыл бұрын
TIPS: If you have taken images on your kit-lense and you want to get a prime lens - your first job is to take your image library and sort it on focal length. Now - beginners have a tendency to use zooms either full wide or full long (depending on the kit-lense zoom range), so expect that most images are grouped around those two focal ranges. But also take note if a lot of images that you like are grouping around either 35 or 50 mm full-frame equivalent (23 or 35 mm APS-C). Then start to consider if the topics of such groupings vary (landscapes/arcitecture/friends around cafe-table typically group towards more 35 mm. More intimate street photography and portraits are probably grouping more around 50 mm equivalent as a rule of thumb). Now it is time to ask "why do I want a prime" while looking at your images. Do you like to get up close to the "action" while getting in some wider context as well? 35 mm is your first frame. Do you like to isolate people/subjects - the 50 mm is your friend (also because it will compress depth of field more and get you a blurrier background). When learning with a kit-lens we are usually not conscious about where we place the zoom-ring. But many will have an instinctive preference - indicating if one likes the wider look or the more closed in look. So trust your own catalogue of images. And remember, if you are getting a new lens and not a new sensor-size, one does not need to convert the millimetres. The only reason why we use 35 and 50 mm "equivalent" is that we grew up with pretty much only one "sensor" - 35mm film. Since the sensor on my Fuji is APS-C with 1.5 crop, it just means that 23 mm is equivalent to a 35 mm analogue camera/full-frame digital camera. Personally, I am leaning to 35 mm. But not totally. Because my first camera (for 10 years) had only one lens - a 40 mm 2.8. By shooting with that alone, the field of view became internalized. I did not really have to look through the viewfinder since I knew what the lens/camera/film was seeing. So I guess I can blame childhood for my "choice".
@lorraine6185
@lorraine6185 5 жыл бұрын
I agree Jason. The Sony APS-C Cameras are great! But, you do have to buy the lens that’s right for you.
@gabrielmaria2762
@gabrielmaria2762 5 жыл бұрын
This has been an emotional carousel, being a beginner and having ordered the 50mm 1.8 for an apsc...
@poquerRafa
@poquerRafa 4 жыл бұрын
That lens is just great. Amazing value for money. A great buy, dont worry. But in the begining might stand way closer than you have to
@gabrielmaria2762
@gabrielmaria2762 4 жыл бұрын
@@poquerRafa I am totally doing that and the people i take portraits of were aware of that before me. Still correcting this. I love the lens till this day since it's on my camera daily. :) Thanks for the replies.
@Guuliann
@Guuliann 4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, 50mm is great. I've used a 50 for 15yrs more than any lens for street and portrait work. It's a great focal length for composing and the restrictions make for better shots when you have to work through it.
@Guuliann
@Guuliann 4 жыл бұрын
Unless if you're not on fullframe... Lol I came from analog an never use cropped sensors
@gabrielmaria2762
@gabrielmaria2762 4 жыл бұрын
@@Guuliann I'm on a crop, but I find the 50 (80mm when you factor in the crop) really nice for portraits. Looking to upgrade to FF soon tho. :)
@eviem70
@eviem70 5 жыл бұрын
I still love my 50mm. I bought it for my t3i about 6 yrs ago. Still use it on my now 5dm4. Love the bokeh that’s always given me. I don’t regret buying it
@Ben-rz9cf
@Ben-rz9cf 5 жыл бұрын
It is honestly good on either. When i was out shooting in monkey forest in bali, i used my 50 1.4 on a crop sensor and it was actually the perfect focal length. Put enough distance between me and the monkeys that i wasn't scaring them off and still got some really creamy gorgeous bokeh, and some of the best shots of my career
@cesarm6131
@cesarm6131 5 жыл бұрын
5:24 they do that because the number printed on the lens is actually the exact value and the "true focal length". And not when you multiply it .
@angelmusical70
@angelmusical70 5 жыл бұрын
85 on a APS-C, why not? The recommendation a portrait lens is 85mm to 135mm
@andrebauer777
@andrebauer777 4 жыл бұрын
I think 85mm on APS-C is too much tele for many situations. The sigma 56mm 1.4 is smaller, faster and offers a good focal lenght I think.
@ChrisParayno
@ChrisParayno 4 жыл бұрын
Truth
@johnmcard3116
@johnmcard3116 4 жыл бұрын
If the 85 lens is made for a cropped sensor, it will be an 85.
@andrebauer777
@andrebauer777 4 жыл бұрын
WhatCheif Network: no. if the label says 85mm it is 85mm. and the field of view is like 120mm on an apsc.
@johnmcard3116
@johnmcard3116 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrebauer777 Are you fucking kidding me?! My lens is DX. That means it's built for a cropped sensor. My camera is a cropped sensor. So if I put my cropped sensor lens on my cropped sensor body, what the fuck is the focal length?? OF COURSE ITS THE CORRECT FOCAL LENGTH, NO MULTIPLICATION. I can't believe how fuckin stupid people are
@Deveraux123456
@Deveraux123456 5 жыл бұрын
Can you post the pictures of the models? For research purposes.
@music3x3
@music3x3 5 жыл бұрын
have a 30mm 1.4 sigma on my canon 1100d, its wicked ! A bit expensive for a 2nd lens especially if you do it as a hobby and you're like 16 or so, but definetly worth !
@juspain1
@juspain1 5 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to have this video when I started a year ago. But I love your humor and knowledge. Always talking about important stuff that we all need to be aware of. Thanks dude
@vasilkosev900
@vasilkosev900 5 жыл бұрын
When I started photography I got a kit lens and 50mm and most of the time it was difficult to get the frame I want with the 50mm. Therefore I went to 35mm on a crop body and it felt perfect for portraits. As for what tutorials I would really want to see "how to pose a model"'. Keep making great videos!
@AlexFung93
@AlexFung93 5 жыл бұрын
also keep in mind that each crop camera system can have a different crop factor. For instance, canon APS-C is usually 1.6x and Micro4/3 is usually 2x
@aight365
@aight365 5 жыл бұрын
Also keep in mind that Fuji cameras have a crop factor of x1.5 lol thanks for educating the public
@jonathan-rw3mx
@jonathan-rw3mx 5 жыл бұрын
@@aight365 what?
@jakeburns2012
@jakeburns2012 2 жыл бұрын
I watched a million lens videos for the past few weeks and you are the only video that I'm actually commenting on. Thanks for the good tip on the 1.5 understanding
@spencerselover
@spencerselover 5 жыл бұрын
Long story short, A 50mm is the best starting focal distance for all-around shooting. Just know the crop factor of your camera, and what you want to shoot. If you're using a cropped APSC sensor, get a 35mm instead. If your focus is landscapes go about 1/2 that.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
Actually 50 mm is too tight for indoor shooting. 35 mm is better as a general purpose lens.
@joelistenbee
@joelistenbee Жыл бұрын
Jason, I loved your commentary on the difference in the 50mm and the stablization and the crop sizes in camera and the compression
@TheDanishSpaceman
@TheDanishSpaceman 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Thanks :) The number on the lens is usually the “true” focal length (on on super zooms or compact cameras you many times will see the FF equiv. field of view. What you mean is that a 50mm lens on an APS-C body gives you a 75mm FF equivalent field of view. This point is that we use the FF equivalent field of view as a reference to compare the field of view on bodies with ither sensor sizes.
@kiyoshim9593
@kiyoshim9593 4 жыл бұрын
he is misleading people with his video. People should stick to read the lens specifications. for example Sony50mm E 32° angle of view. Sigma50mm E 47° angle of view. Sony50mm FE 47° angle of view.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
@@kiyoshim9593 Nobody understands degrees.
@troyr3478
@troyr3478 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 85mm 1.8 on crop sensor which is basically 135 full frame. It's kinda tight zoomed but amazing for getting candid head shots when someone is across the room or a distance away.
@GregoryAlusa
@GregoryAlusa 5 жыл бұрын
Sigma 30mm f1.4 for my APSC SONY A6400🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
@JasonVong
@JasonVong 5 жыл бұрын
our lord and savior for Sony APSC... SIGMA!!!
@WillProwse
@WillProwse 5 жыл бұрын
Sigma all the way with a6400. Best combo ever
@charlien4153
@charlien4153 5 жыл бұрын
Sad that Sony doesnt make faster than 1.8 for APS-C and more sad that not stabilized
@JasonVong
@JasonVong 5 жыл бұрын
@@charlien4153 actually sony apsc 35mm and 50mm are OSS
@BigBoss-gb4cx
@BigBoss-gb4cx 5 жыл бұрын
@@charlien4153 They wouldn't be able to sell FF lens and cameras otherwise....
@anony_meows
@anony_meows 5 жыл бұрын
get a 50mm if you're looking for that foreground-background compression, and do understand that you need considerable amount of space between you and subject, which means, either studio scenario or scripted shot with full control over your set. it's kinda fun to do full/long shot with a short tele like the 50
@dallinski
@dallinski 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like a tutorial showing start to finish of planning, filming, and editing a KZbin video.
@ge48421
@ge48421 5 жыл бұрын
I find myself going back to using a 35mm equivalent lens (that would be 23mm on an APS-C camera) for documentary images. Anything wider starts showing distortion, especially in faces near the edge of the image, and anything longer does not always let you get close enough. If I carry one lens it’s that one, not a 50mm.
@myk3al1
@myk3al1 5 жыл бұрын
"Moral of the story is GET A FULL FRAME CAMERA" LMAO I fell out of my chair 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@reddawn87
@reddawn87 5 жыл бұрын
Welp I followed what he said LOL
@mich722
@mich722 5 жыл бұрын
And pay the price of a car.
@lugaidster
@lugaidster 4 жыл бұрын
@@mich722 you can get a full frame a7ii for around $600 used. That's right there with APS-C cameras and has IBIS.
@jeepjoseph9036
@jeepjoseph9036 4 жыл бұрын
@@mich722 no that's hasselblad and medium format Leica
@nightcoder5k
@nightcoder5k 5 жыл бұрын
5:24 Crop factor depends on the sensor size. It may be 2x, 1.5x, or 1.65x. So, it doesn't make sense to put the cropped focal length on the lens.
@sullinsshoots
@sullinsshoots 5 жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see more on event photography, low light situations, performance of arts as well as studio stuff.
@thekid9989
@thekid9989 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a really big rabbit hole, I am a travel photographer who uses a 75mm (150mm) on a Micro four/thirds. I will also add that I also cary a 17mm (34mm) for some wide angle shots. On top of that I am buying a full frame because I am starting to do more portraits locally.
@JQLee-cr5sk
@JQLee-cr5sk 5 жыл бұрын
I was going crazy with my 85mm with my nikon d3400... only to know now that would have been a 127.5mm focal length!
@arshian3420
@arshian3420 5 жыл бұрын
Bro please tell me how is the sharpness and autofocus?
@Narsuitus
@Narsuitus Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Over the years, I have tried 50mm, 55mm, 45mm, and 40mm focal lengths. All four are considered “normal” or “standard” focal lengths for “full-frame” cameras. I personally prefer the 40mm.
@TheNAK20
@TheNAK20 5 жыл бұрын
Please do a review of the sigma 16mm ,30mm and 56 with the a6400 on the FeiyuTech G6 Plus Gimbal PLEASE!
@RosskoPeeko
@RosskoPeeko 4 жыл бұрын
Yes more rabbit holes please. I love these types of videos and it’s really helping me choose what lense to start out with.
@13lamjh1
@13lamjh1 5 жыл бұрын
whenever im about to forget, jv here brings out potatojet again🤣
@JasonVong
@JasonVong 5 жыл бұрын
damnmit! im perpetuating this stereotype!!
@MyGroo
@MyGroo 4 жыл бұрын
50mm focal length on APS-C it *is* 50mm. The reason you multiply is because you want to see which focal length you would have to use on a 35mm camera to get the same result. It's like saying that 50mm on FF is actually 32mm on a Hasselblad.
@EthanChlebowski
@EthanChlebowski 5 жыл бұрын
Literally ordered the sony 50mm 1.8 last night...just changed my order to the sigma 30mm 1.4. I didn't know I needed this video, but Jason Vong did...what is this sorcery?
@alphaxfang
@alphaxfang 5 жыл бұрын
do you have in body image stabilization? if not better get that sony 35mm 1.8 that OSS will help more than extra .4 aperture...
@EthanChlebowski
@EthanChlebowski 5 жыл бұрын
alphaxfang No image stabilization! I have the 18-105 with oss for those cases. The Sigma lenses is primarily for photos and video work on a tripod only.
@alphaxfang
@alphaxfang 5 жыл бұрын
@@EthanChlebowski well then that's a good choice for your set up... Ah and one thing to consider too... The bokeh ball, personally i don't like sigma bokeh ball... Kind of busy looking... But if it fit with your taste then go with that lens, it's one fast sharp lens for sure...
@EthanChlebowski
@EthanChlebowski 5 жыл бұрын
@@alphaxfang Indeed, I'll keep an eye out for it. I mainly wanted the lens for the sharpness!
@EthanChlebowski
@EthanChlebowski 5 жыл бұрын
Ta-Kuan Fuan That’s what I like to hear, I’m stoked!
@matthewjacobs2558
@matthewjacobs2558 5 жыл бұрын
I always recommend staying with a full range of zooms early on. Borrow or rent. Then look at what mm you find yourself at most often. Those are the primes to add to your bag. What you'll get the most use out of and usually get some sharpness and bokeh improvements. As for tutorial software or sites... I've honestly yet to find one that has kept my interest long enough. But to be fair I've only seen maybe two or three online.
@radellaf
@radellaf 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds right to me, from the perspective of someone getting into EF-M. The 15-45, 22 (it’s cheap small and bright) and 55-200 is covering just about everything. The tele is f3.5 at 55, so good enough to start for portraits and if I just need more background blur or lower ISO then I’ll know a ~50mm prime is ideal. And the 55-200 is IS, as well. There’s only one affordable IS prime, the 28mm macro. The IS EF primes really need to be worth it.
@Ben-rz9cf
@Ben-rz9cf 5 жыл бұрын
50mm is almost always better on full frame. On a crop sensor, it's basically an 85. Not terrible for portraits still, but you're going to have to have a bit of space in your studio. I would recommend for everyone to get a 50mm AND a 35mm.... Both are really close to the human perceptual range of 42mm, but one is slightly telephoto and thus very flattering for facial features on portraits and the other is slightly wide angle and thus you're able to get really close to your subject and shoot a bunch of different stuff in tight spaces. I use the 2 of these primes for like, 90% of my photography.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
That human perceptual range is pure nonsense. Human field if vision is over 180 degrees.
@EvanNakagawa
@EvanNakagawa 5 жыл бұрын
I love my 56mm on my a6300, but I don’t use it nearly as much as I thought I would. The majority of the time I use my 18-105
@Grr8jon
@Grr8jon 4 жыл бұрын
Same, 18-105mm is just too good in a variety of situations. I use the sigma 16mm 1.4 for low light
@kiliandietrich8526
@kiliandietrich8526 5 жыл бұрын
If they wrote anything else but the true value of the focal length on a lens... they would straight up lie. Because a 50mm lens always remains a 50mm lens. The glass is shaped to have it's focal point 50mm from the center of the principal plane. Full frame or not, what you mean is that the angle of view is different when you put different sensors behind the lens.
@JamesHerlihy
@JamesHerlihy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the insights. Just got the a7c with the 20mm 1.8
@LordArioh
@LordArioh 5 жыл бұрын
I just got 50 f1.2.. damn, where have YT recommendations been..
@hyunji2524
@hyunji2524 4 жыл бұрын
Feel the same way
@kotazad3115
@kotazad3115 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a 50mm f1.4 first and I LOVE it to this day
@FaustAndTheFurious
@FaustAndTheFurious 5 жыл бұрын
One thing that wasn't mentioned is on the Sony a6300 has a feature called clear image zoom. If you are using a prime lens, you can zoom in up to 2x your focal length and not lose any quality to the image.
@Gadgets20
@Gadgets20 5 жыл бұрын
I came to a lot of these came conclusions when I started doing photography 😅. One thing to note is the crop factor on Canon is actually 1.6. On Sony it's 1.5. However if you're using a Micro 4/3s system, it's a 2x crop. Also the Canon M50 w/ the 50mm on a speed booster is pretty sweet. It gives you an equivalent focal length of 57mm.
@johnmcard3116
@johnmcard3116 4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't even mention that if you buy a cropped-sensor specific lens, the focal length it is rated for will be true. Only when you put a full-frame lens on a cropped sensor will the issues arise.
@professionalpotato4764
@professionalpotato4764 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnmcard3116 Nope. Focal length is a physical spec of the lens. And it's a measurement of how the light is being bent to be focused. A cropped sensor lens has the exact same focal length as a full frame version if they have the same numbers. A 50mm FF lens on FF body has the same 50mm focal length of a APS-C lens on APS-C body. . The thing that changes is the field of view. The optics behave the same. Field of view is cropped as long as you're not on full frame, so just multiply it. APS-C lenses are just made smaller so there's no light "wastage", but the field of view is still effectively cropped. That is why crop sensor kit lenses have a different range (18-55), so that it provides approximately the same field of view (after the crop factor)as a 24-70 kit lens on a FF body. Check out Gerald Undone's video on crop sensors.
@1dripy-e5s
@1dripy-e5s Жыл бұрын
I love my 50mm, but I also love really close pictures. Most of the pics are of my family so I tend to take them as surprise so having that distance from them with a great close up it’s what I enjoy.
@tvdlfilms
@tvdlfilms 5 жыл бұрын
OMG I thought Potato jet was you and vise versa for months now 😂😂😂 I’m so confused rn 🤷🏼‍♂️
@Ben-rz9cf
@Ben-rz9cf 5 жыл бұрын
racist
@Novice2121
@Novice2121 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-rz9cf i made the same mistake and im Asian soooo
@swarovskivtx
@swarovskivtx 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 Me too! I had to search if it was true that they are different youtubers ahahahah
@bobcoco6047
@bobcoco6047 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-rz9cf Racism is out of intention , being confused not. So this kind of accusation makes no actual sense. (besides the obvious joky character of the OP, which makes it even + inapropriate x) )
@Blink.prem619
@Blink.prem619 5 жыл бұрын
me too..
@erikbreihof
@erikbreihof 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on how you set up your camera when you use a strobe? And what settings you use on your strobe?
@dlovisuals
@dlovisuals 5 жыл бұрын
I remember when I first bought my Canon T3i people told me the same thing, get a 50mm. I got and was like “wtf it’s so zoomed in”. Now that I know what I’m doing, I enjoy it on crop cameras for that “portrait” look, though I do love my 40mm a little bit more lol
@JasonVong
@JasonVong 5 жыл бұрын
it only costed us $100 to realize our mistake 😂😂😂 much cheaper than going to college
@dlovisuals
@dlovisuals 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Vong waaay cheaper than going to college. Could’ve bought a whole case of coffee instead haha
@kaiateya
@kaiateya 6 ай бұрын
I ran into this recently, too, on an APS-C camera. Everyone said nifty fifty, nifty fifty was actually pretty cheap, so I got one. Stunning, stunning bokeh and pretty good for tripod low light / long exposures / etc. It's been changing my game for doing IR photography without a sensor filter conversion, because of the huge light influx. But yeah, I was really stumped as to why it felt like I was always zoomed in; why is everyone going nuts over this thing? Every time I went out with it, it eventually ended up in my bag and stayed there, because it's too shaky (no IS) for macro-ish shots, and it was too close in for everything else. But yeah, now it makes a lot more sense. 35mm equivalents of the same lens are ridiculously expensive in comparison, so... back to the kit lens for now. :D It's actually not bad! Just sort of a bard lens though, Jack of all trades, master of none... Edit: Forgot to say, my spouse calls this lens my "nifty eighty" now... lol.
@srapko
@srapko 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe more "what not to do as a beginner" videos
@johnmcard3116
@johnmcard3116 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is a beginner. If you buy a lens designed for a cropped sensor the focal length marked will be accurate. Only when you mis-match a full-frame lens with a cropped sensor will you encounter problems.
@Alex_Ochoa
@Alex_Ochoa 5 жыл бұрын
*Does the aperture fall into the crop factor as well 🤔 say f1.8 on a crop sensor is actually a f2.7 😬*
@lavaninja9602
@lavaninja9602 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. In terms of bokeh, if you stand in the same spot with a crop and full frame sensor, you will get the same amount of bokeh. However, in order to frame the subject the same, you will have to back up, so you will get less bokeh then you would.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
Neither the focal length nor the aperture changes. Equivalences are just tools for comparison.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
@@lavaninja9602 Bokeh his not determined by the distance as long as the background is far enough.
@joshblank1
@joshblank1 5 жыл бұрын
What is obsession with wider angle lenses. I love the crop / zoomed in portraits (shoulders and higher). Tack sharp eye AF and bokeh. Less distortion
@RayValdezPhotography
@RayValdezPhotography 5 жыл бұрын
probably not that useful for video unless u have like a team or doing films and have a lot of time to change lenses for framing.
@pisangijo419
@pisangijo419 5 жыл бұрын
Why? To capture both the object and the "instagramable" environment of course, lol.
@gmcubed
@gmcubed 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Blank wider lenses are closer to how we see the world, so we're not as taken aback when we realize we're too close to get what we want in frame. It's also not long enough in situations where you'd reach for a zoom. I only use my 50 when I have no other choice due to low light. 50 can be great if you have the time and space to experiment, but if your subjects are people they probably aren't patient enough. I havnt used one on a full frame though.
@travissmarion
@travissmarion 5 жыл бұрын
My first real camera was the Sony A6500 paired with the Sigma 30mm F1.4. Perfect starting combo. I added the Sony Zeiss 55mm F1.8 for portraits and the Sigma 16mm F1.4 for videography. Best 3 lens combination for any APS-C camera in my opinion in the Sony line up.
@professionalpotato4764
@professionalpotato4764 4 жыл бұрын
Keep the 30mm no matter what. I made the mistake of selling mine after I got the Sigma 18-35 1.8 since it's effectively 2 primes in 1 lens. I only found out later, for some reason the 30mm f1.4 can cover a full frame image circle even thought it's built as an aps-c
@lensofeli1762
@lensofeli1762 4 жыл бұрын
when he said “who needs gir-“ and the gear flew across the room 🤣🤣i lost it
@WRPhotography-zx5dv
@WRPhotography-zx5dv 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on the new tamron 17-28mm f mount or a tutorial of when to use nd filter and which ones you have?
@platinumacer8119
@platinumacer8119 5 жыл бұрын
This video was so helpful in recommending good lenses. I feel like I say this every video but it was amazing as usual!
@buddyWalrus
@buddyWalrus 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks to videos like this I learned very early on how to calculate the proper field of view for my apsc camera. I’d love to see a video on how to construct a solid portfolio or website, or walk us through how you made yours!
@quite1enough
@quite1enough 5 жыл бұрын
Marking aps-c lens with ff focal length rates just ridiculous, and I never understand that
@saifaldin_
@saifaldin_ 5 жыл бұрын
John Smith They’re not marked with full frame focal lengths, but the actual focal length of the lens (physical dimension which will not change). What people mean when they say ‘full frame equivalent’ is they’re referring to the FOV that you will get if you’re using FF cameras. So the marking in mm is always correct, only the FOV will change according to what sensor size it’s being paired with.
@quite1enough
@quite1enough 5 жыл бұрын
@@saifaldin_ what I meant is why you can't place notes on lens with mount which can be used only on aps-c bodies with ff equivalent, and how's that correct if aps-c lens marked as 50mm isn't gonna be 50mm , etc etc you know what I mean
@saifaldin_
@saifaldin_ 5 жыл бұрын
John Smith They can’t label it like that; that would be wrong. The only ways they can label it correctly are: A) Label with FL (in mm) which they are doing now) B) Label with FOV (in degs) in which case they would have to put both FF & APSC numbers for each lens. C) Put all of the above Sony uses the same mount for their FF and APS-C mirrorless bodies. So even though the lenses were designed for a particular sensor size, they can still be mounted & used on other sensor sized bodies. I understand that the current way of labeling in FL can be confusing, but I can’t imagine a better way to label them (unless you don’t mind super long names for each lens)
@davidanderson9892
@davidanderson9892 4 жыл бұрын
The lens casts a projection onto the sensor. A FF lens casts a larger circle, but for a given focal length e.g. 50mm, the magnification remains the same. So lets say there's a dog in the centre of the image; in each case the dog is the same height on the sensor. There's no [sensor] focal length; there's just focal length. Because the FF lens needs to cast a larger circle than the APS-C lens to cover the larger sensor, the FF lens will usually be wider across. (modern lenses are more complicated internally than the basic single lens optics model which is used to designate their focal length).
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
There is no FF focal length or APS-C focal length. The lens has only its actual focal length which is not changed by the sensor size. You just should understand that with a smaller sensor one must use shorter focal lenghts. It seems that you have not understood this. I think you should first understand the basics, then you can use the crop factor and equivalences as tools. If you jump directly to them without understanding the basics you get confused.
@markwoollard
@markwoollard 5 жыл бұрын
Good food for thought, Jason. You really gave us a PEACE of your mind!! I do appreciate that you freely share your own learning curve in photography.
@MrAlfredkwok
@MrAlfredkwok 5 жыл бұрын
It really depends on what type of photography you are in when choosing the next lens, and man this is a really good guide
@JasonVong
@JasonVong 5 жыл бұрын
glad this looks solid!
@iguanaman08
@iguanaman08 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! The Sony 85mm FE on my A6400 is pretty awesome. Portrait and Street photography are my uses. Admittedly though my sigma 30mm is my most used lens.
@asura4938
@asura4938 5 жыл бұрын
So true, wish I had seen this earlier...
@flyinb45
@flyinb45 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great information. Any thoughts between the Sony 35 f/1.8 and the Sigma 30 f/1.4 for that 50ish lens?
@FrancescoAsaro7
@FrancescoAsaro7 5 жыл бұрын
Go for the Sigma
@edwardv365
@edwardv365 5 жыл бұрын
i just ordered the 50mm f/1.8 for my 200d and its on its way lol, no going back now
@phoenixrising4464
@phoenixrising4464 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same setup and love it,
@glennurquhart2989
@glennurquhart2989 4 жыл бұрын
Being on a budget, I got the Canon 50mm f/1.8 and the Canon 24mm f/1.8 for my Canon T7i. Love these prime lens!
@diegorf3000
@diegorf3000 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I just found this video, I have an a6400 and was thinking of getting a 50mm but now you changed my mind. Love your videos!
@Elaba83
@Elaba83 5 жыл бұрын
There's also a thing like speedboosters for removing that crop factor (when using vintage FF lenses)
@SnipeTheMoment
@SnipeTheMoment 5 жыл бұрын
Good content. Im a sony fan recently got into photography and wanted to see tutorials about astrophotography because I didnt see any from you, and nothing can go wrong with Jason Vong!
@DomBrownaguynamedDOM
@DomBrownaguynamedDOM 5 жыл бұрын
Jason, any type of lighting tutorials would good! I picked up an AD200 recently and would like some tips on how to balance ambient light with the fill flash. Also not sure if you have invested in MagMod would like to see some BTS on a shoot working with portraiture. Thanks, I’ll keep my fingers crossed on that W brother
@comichero558
@comichero558 5 жыл бұрын
Where was this video when I bought my a6400 lol that was the first lens I bought after watching hours of KZbin .. then my son's kindergarten classroom graduation I was pushing myself against the wall for a shot 😂😂 Was going to say a macro extension vid should be next but guess your on it already , so how about some water photography tips since it's summer
@buddhalamalo
@buddhalamalo 5 жыл бұрын
Best video on the internet ....u made me clear about the lenses and its uses..
@trilexi
@trilexi 4 жыл бұрын
So today I learned "Jason Vong" isn't "Potato Jet" 's secondary channel ... They aren't the same guy. Hope I'm not racist
@wasislos
@wasislos 4 жыл бұрын
im asian myself and i got confused by 2 different videos about a7s3 (1 was from Potato Jet and second one was from Jason Vong and i got confused for a second before realizing that they were different people :) )
@explorewitharnav
@explorewitharnav 4 жыл бұрын
same same
@younggod4915
@younggod4915 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I wasn’t the only one
@cactivation07
@cactivation07 4 жыл бұрын
It is racist but atleast you didn't mean any harm from it at the start
@MeggidoX
@MeggidoX 5 жыл бұрын
Hey potato I like the new space, when did you move?
@Milan-cf1xe
@Milan-cf1xe 5 жыл бұрын
Finally one talking about that. I made the same mistake
@CO8848_2
@CO8848_2 4 жыл бұрын
The nifty fifty was my favorite lense on APS-C for portrait, not sure why you complained about it. Then I switched to manual focus f1.1 at 50mm on APS-C, and best night portrait ever, beautiful picture of my daughter, better than any full frame by anybody else I've seen.
@BrianTheCameraGuy
@BrianTheCameraGuy 5 жыл бұрын
OMG I thought the same thing. I was originally going to get the a7iii bit ended up getting the a6400. You are totally right it feels really close.
@BrianTheCameraGuy
@BrianTheCameraGuy 5 жыл бұрын
@S Tra Would have loved a Porsche but I would take a Honda Civic. This stuff is expensive man. No need to put yourself in financial ruin over it.
@simrankhurana4396
@simrankhurana4396 4 жыл бұрын
@S Tra ultimately the full frame is ridiculously expensive due to the kens
@oliverhawkins3098
@oliverhawkins3098 5 жыл бұрын
All of your recommended focal lengths for different situations are helpful but are you referring to full frame lengths or the adjusted crop sensor numbers?
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 5 жыл бұрын
great info
@likfoon3168
@likfoon3168 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear more about what different lens to be used in different situation, which is better for photography as well as which is better for videography!
@carlneraphoto
@carlneraphoto 5 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see more tutorials on portrait photography! 😁😁 I Love the 50mm focal length, perfect for portraits. But I really agree that 50mm is too tight, so 35mm or 24mm is good for all around.
@JeremyCWW
@JeremyCWW 5 жыл бұрын
For apsc?
@cfsitalisay3312
@cfsitalisay3312 5 жыл бұрын
@@JeremyCWW yes!
@AliRastafa
@AliRastafa 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, definately you are not right. Take a portrait photo with 24/35 and compare it to 50/85.
@rafiquee
@rafiquee 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, next tutorial could be comparison between in camera IS and lens based IS, i use canon lenses on Sony A7ii just wondering if they even enhance performance in conjunction of each other or not?
@villashartvig7699
@villashartvig7699 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a astrophotography video from you, or a collaboration with Sony ambassador Kyle Meyr, and see you take photos together.
@wngimageanddesign9546
@wngimageanddesign9546 5 жыл бұрын
Capture One Pro me! :) We have a lot of choices, but when we travel, we're constrained on what we can bring on a trip. If I am driving, I don't mind loading my car full of lenses. But when size and weight becomes a constraint, how do you decide, given that you must shoot both still and videos. Do you prioritize on video gear being a youtuber? 50mm primes? I have GAS, I have over 50 of them. wahhhh!
@mattmarusic4636
@mattmarusic4636 5 жыл бұрын
Dudeeee finallyyy a newwwwww videoooo
@JasonVong
@JasonVong 5 жыл бұрын
been cooking up other videos! higher production, they're coming soon!
@mattmarusic4636
@mattmarusic4636 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Vong can’t wait!! Btw, you are my favorite youtuber (who cares about Potato Jet).
@chickenpasta7359
@chickenpasta7359 4 жыл бұрын
If you're on a Fuji system I highly recommend the 35mm F2 or 1.4. I love my 1.4 variant and it lives on my camera almost everyday.
@rjnakamura1385
@rjnakamura1385 5 жыл бұрын
damn the feels, i can relate you should've made this video 4 years ago lol
@johnmcard3116
@johnmcard3116 4 жыл бұрын
He shouldn't have made it at all. Totally inaccurate information.. No mention of the fact that you buy lenses made FOR cropped sensors, and their focal lengths will be true.
@rubelukeable
@rubelukeable 4 жыл бұрын
just making sure!! All your recommendations are for APSC users, correct?
@danielmarcussen714
@danielmarcussen714 5 жыл бұрын
"5 tips when going freelance"
@senorfrog5605
@senorfrog5605 5 жыл бұрын
does the crop factor apply to aperture also? i think i heard tony northrup say that. could be wrong though
@charlien4153
@charlien4153 5 жыл бұрын
50 is a horrible recommendation for many. Recommendation needs to be on FOV
@ccphotofilm
@ccphotofilm 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Jason, yes it´s true the crop factor can be bad or good. I would love to have a SIGMA 56mm 1.4 for portraits in my a6500 that means 84mm 1.4 and amazing option for aps-c portraits and very cheap one. So I recomend this lens in case of portrait shooting.
@BigBoss-gb4cx
@BigBoss-gb4cx 5 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't mean 84mm 1.4. It means 84mm f2.1 Not bad, but not correct calculation.
@ccphotofilm
@ccphotofilm 5 жыл бұрын
@@BigBoss-gb4cx ok, whatever, still amazing portrait glass for aps-c, might be the best and cheapest, Thanks!
@KeonHector
@KeonHector 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao 30 seconds in the video and I'm already laughing
@JasonVong
@JasonVong 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@dbaylas
@dbaylas 5 жыл бұрын
Please make a tutorial on when to use SLOG or HLG! And what gamma and gamut is? Still pretty confused with how to use picture profiles! Newb to videos here.
@steinbsand
@steinbsand 5 жыл бұрын
I would like you to walk us through that menu that comes after white balance on the sony cameras, how do you correctly use it? (main lenses for my sony a6300: sony 35mm 1.8 and sigma 16mm).
@marcchristoefur
@marcchristoefur 5 жыл бұрын
Please post videos how to begin doing video with the Sony A7III. The bare bone basics series.
@cherylmccoy2702
@cherylmccoy2702 4 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the A6100 Sony kit. I'm wanting to shoot indoor volleyball. Will the kit lenses work with that? If so, what settings do you recommend? I'm not a photographer. I just decided I needed something other than my phone. LOL
@anthonymakaeran9261
@anthonymakaeran9261 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! Can you give us some tips when shooting indoor portraits using natural lights only. Thank you!
@HeyJoe.
@HeyJoe. 4 жыл бұрын
Alright a little late on this video but comes in handy cuz I’m looking to buy my second lens. Question, are you using an adapter? Since I see it’s a canon lens on a song camera.
5 жыл бұрын
I love my 85mm but 50mm is sweet too! What about mics or cages for the Sony a7 bodies?
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