50mm - Why I Don't Recommend This Lens & How To Choose Your Next One!

[@JasonVong]

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[@withoutpassid]

Jason Vong Sony Zeiss 24 1.8. Lacking OSS is a pain for my shaky hand, when it is paired with my a6300. I ended up using the 16-70 a lot more, even in low light.

[@HueyPProductions]

Sigma 18-35 1.8 nobody every told me that thing is heavy

[@mr.whoneedsit7856]

Hey Jason how come students always get the discounts? What about us broke as f parents who pay for their kids college etc etc lol

[@JasonVong]

@@HueyPProductions YEP! It's heavy hahaha!

[@JasonVong]

@@mr.whoneedsit7856 Use your kids student ID to apply 😂😂😂

[@myk3al1]

"Moral of the story is GET A FULL FRAME CAMERA" LMAO I fell out of my chair 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@reddawn87]

Welp I followed what he said LOL

[@mich722]

And pay the price of a car.

[@lugaidster]

@@mich722 you can get a full frame a7ii for around $600 used. That's right there with APS-C cameras and has IBIS.

[@jeepjoseph9036]

@@mich722 no that's hasselblad and medium format Leica

[@bokbokeh]

This should be a series for beginners! “You’re doing it Vong!”

[@TJuice1986]

What the hell is “Vong” with you?

[@XRP_321]

im the 100th like

[@jklphoto]

A funnier, and actually educational series, could be called Vong is Wong!

[@jeroenjansen2709]

Sum Ting Vong

[@kiyoshim9593]

he is misleading people with his video. People should stick to read the lens specifications. for example Sony50mm E 32° angle of view. Sigma50mm E 47° angle of view. Sony50mm FE 47° angle of view.

[@meriredetripsandclicks3153]

I use a 500mm on an apsc sensor and am very happy with it. My neighbor isn't though.

[@greysuit17]

Trips and Clicks 🙀

[@JasonVong]

Sounds like a great investment! 😂😂

[@charlespangilinan6351]

Adapt it on a micro4/3! Then have fun!

[@trym2121]

Put it on M43 with 2x converter. You'll start seeing the shape of your neighbor voice

[@blankname5612]

500mm on aps c street photography are for chumps, 800mm f8 on m43 is where it's at.

[@tvdlfilms]

OMG I thought Potato jet was you and vise versa for months now 😂😂😂 I’m so confused rn 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Ben-rz9cf]

racist

[@Novice2121]

@@Ben-rz9cf i made the same mistake and im Asian soooo

[@swarovskivtx]

😂😂😂 Me too! I had to search if it was true that they are different youtubers ahahahah

[@bobcoco6047]

@@Ben-rz9cf Racism is out of intention , being confused not. So this kind of accusation makes no actual sense. (besides the obvious joky character of the OP, which makes it even + inapropriate x) )

[@habuddivsshere6337]

me too..

[@gabrielmaria2762]

This has been an emotional carousel, being a beginner and having ordered the 50mm 1.8 for an apsc...

[@poquerRafa]

That lens is just great. Amazing value for money. A great buy, dont worry. But in the begining might stand way closer than you have to

[@gabrielmaria2762]

@@poquerRafa I am totally doing that and the people i take portraits of were aware of that before me. Still correcting this. I love the lens till this day since it's on my camera daily. :) Thanks for the replies.

[@Guuliann]

Don't worry, 50mm is great. I've used a 50 for 15yrs more than any lens for street and portrait work. It's a great focal length for composing and the restrictions make for better shots when you have to work through it.

[@Guuliann]

Unless if you're not on fullframe... Lol I came from analog an never use cropped sensors

[@gabrielmaria2762]

@@Guuliann I'm on a crop, but I find the 50 (80mm when you factor in the crop) really nice for portraits. Looking to upgrade to FF soon tho. :)

[@likelupiniii3466]

I found the part about you not fully understanding crop sensors dope. Would love to see a video about your journey as a photographer from beginning to now. Like about your first camera, your first big break, your inspiration or what led to you becoming a photographer. I think it'd be dope.

[@13lamjh1]

whenever im about to forget, jv here brings out potatojet again🤣

[@JasonVong]

damnmit! im perpetuating this stereotype!!

[@GregoryAlusa]

Sigma 30mm f1.4 for my APSC SONY A6400🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@JasonVong]

our lord and savior for Sony APSC... SIGMA!!!

[@WillProwse]

Sigma all the way with a6400. Best combo ever

[@charlien4153]

Sad that Sony doesnt make faster than 1.8 for APS-C and more sad that not stabilized

[@JasonVong]

@@charlien4153 actually sony apsc 35mm and 50mm are OSS

[@BigBoss-gb4cx]

@@charlien4153 They wouldn't be able to sell FF lens and cameras otherwise....

[@chosenideahandle]

For portraits I like to still stick to a 56mm to 85mm f/1.4 or f 1.8 crop or not. Regardless of having to move back sometimes, the compression plus the large aperture are hard to beat when working together for separation. People can also start looking a little unnatural if you happen to get too close with those wider focal lengths.

[@dallinski]

I'd like a tutorial showing start to finish of planning, filming, and editing a KZbin video.

[@NickBarang]

I really hated my 50mm on a crop sensor, until I moved to a full-frame and it was awesome. Then, I went back to a crop and I love the 50 mm now. It's essentially the portrait lens that we all need. Terrible for street and general use, though. I like my 23 mm most for that.

[@Assassunn]

Do you use a 23mm on APS-C ?

[@lorraine6185]

I agree Jason. The Sony APS-C Cameras are great! But, you do have to buy the lens that’s right for you.

[@srapko]

Maybe more "what not to do as a beginner" videos

[@johnmcard3116]

This guy is a beginner. If you buy a lens designed for a cropped sensor the focal length marked will be accurate. Only when you mis-match a full-frame lens with a cropped sensor will you encounter problems.

[@juspain1]

Would have been nice to have this video when I started a year ago. But I love your humor and knowledge. Always talking about important stuff that we all need to be aware of. Thanks dude

[@angelmusical70]

85 on a APS-C, why not? The recommendation a portrait lens is 85mm to 135mm

[@andrebauer777]

I think 85mm on APS-C is too much tele for many situations. The sigma 56mm 1.4 is smaller, faster and offers a good focal lenght I think.

[@ChrisParayno]

Truth

[@johnmcard3116]

If the 85 lens is made for a cropped sensor, it will be an 85.

[@andrebauer777]

WhatCheif Network: no. if the label says 85mm it is 85mm. and the field of view is like 120mm on an apsc.

[@johnmcard3116]

@@andrebauer777 Are you fucking kidding me?! My lens is DX. That means it's built for a cropped sensor. My camera is a cropped sensor. So if I put my cropped sensor lens on my cropped sensor body, what the fuck is the focal length?? OF COURSE ITS THE CORRECT FOCAL LENGTH, NO MULTIPLICATION. I can't believe how fuckin stupid people are

[@ATMTech]

This is SO TRUE! People used to shout about how usable and versatile the 50mm focal length was but I found I never had enough space for me to back up and was only really good in wide open spaces or controlled environments. Having switched to a full frame years later, I now see what people were talking about! And properly understood that I was actually at a roughly 80mm focal length on my APSC!

[@glacieractivity]

TIPS: If you have taken images on your kit-lense and you want to get a prime lens - your first job is to take your image library and sort it on focal length. Now - beginners have a tendency to use zooms either full wide or full long (depending on the kit-lense zoom range), so expect that most images are grouped around those two focal ranges. But also take note if a lot of images that you like are grouping around either 35 or 50 mm full-frame equivalent (23 or 35 mm APS-C). Then start to consider if the topics of such groupings vary (landscapes/arcitecture/friends around cafe-table typically group towards more 35 mm. More intimate street photography and portraits are probably grouping more around 50 mm equivalent as a rule of thumb). Now it is time to ask "why do I want a prime" while looking at your images. Do you like to get up close to the "action" while getting in some wider context as well? 35 mm is your first frame. Do you like to isolate people/subjects - the 50 mm is your friend (also because it will compress depth of field more and get you a blurrier background). When learning with a kit-lens we are usually not conscious about where we place the zoom-ring. But many will have an instinctive preference - indicating if one likes the wider look or the more closed in look. So trust your own catalogue of images. And remember, if you are getting a new lens and not a new sensor-size, one does not need to convert the millimetres. The only reason why we use 35 and 50 mm "equivalent" is that we grew up with pretty much only one "sensor" - 35mm film. Since the sensor on my Fuji is APS-C with 1.5 crop, it just means that 23 mm is equivalent to a 35 mm analogue camera/full-frame digital camera. Personally, I am leaning to 35 mm. But not totally. Because my first camera (for 10 years) had only one lens - a 40 mm 2.8. By shooting with that alone, the field of view became internalized. I did not really have to look through the viewfinder since I knew what the lens/camera/film was seeing. So I guess I can blame childhood for my "choice".

[@jonathangordon7542]

This guy is giving terrible advice and the title is just click bait. A 50mm should absolutely be a first or second lens purchase, they are so versatile. 50mm on a full frame is an all around good focal length, it provides just enough compression to be used for portraits and is neither a wide or telephoto focal length. When used in on a crop sensor camera it is somewhere around 75 to 80mm's which is, you guessed it, perfect for close up portraits. Also, most beginning photographers want cheap, a nifty 50 is super cheap. If you wanted the aspect ratio of a 50mm on a crop sensor you are going to have to get a 30 or 35mm lens and those are expensive because you need more glass to make them, so it is cheaper to use a kit lens. However you should still get a 50mm, there are zero down sides to it. In the end get the lens you want and can afford, and BUY USED! I rarely buy new lenses, keep glass in circulation :)

[@JQLee-cr5sk]

I was going crazy with my 85mm with my nikon d3400... only to know now that would have been a 127.5mm focal length!

[@arshian3420]

Bro please tell me how is the sharpness and autofocus?

[@MyGroo]

50mm focal length on APS-C it *is* 50mm. The reason you multiply is because you want to see which focal length you would have to use on a 35mm camera to get the same result. It's like saying that 50mm on FF is actually 32mm on a Hasselblad.

[@LordArioh]

I just got 50 f1.2.. damn, where have YT recommendations been..

[@hyunji2524]

Feel the same way

[@kotazad3115]

I've got a 50mm f1.4 first and I LOVE it to this day

[@onQQuincy]

Actually when people say get a 50mm for a APS-C it's so that you will have a portrait lens that's more like having a 85mm lens on a full frame.

[@BigBoss-gb4cx]

Except the less DFO.

[@onQQuincy]

@@BigBoss-gb4cx That's why I said "more like" but it's the 56mm f/1.2 that will give you about the same look as a 85mm f/1.8 on a full frame camera

[@JeremyCWW]

Totally agree with you

[@trilexi]

So today I learned "Jason Vong" isn't "Potato Jet" 's secondary channel ... They aren't the same guy. Hope I'm not racist

[@wasislos]

im asian myself and i got confused by 2 different videos about a7s3 (1 was from Potato Jet and second one was from Jason Vong and i got confused for a second before realizing that they were different people :) )

[@explorewitharnav]

same same

[@younggod4915]

Glad I wasn’t the only one

[@cactivation07]

It is racist but atleast you didn't mean any harm from it at the start

[@Deveraux123456]

Can you post the pictures of the models? For research purposes.

[@EthanChlebowski]

Literally ordered the sony 50mm 1.8 last night...just changed my order to the sigma 30mm 1.4. I didn't know I needed this video, but Jason Vong did...what is this sorcery?

[@alphaxfang]

do you have in body image stabilization? if not better get that sony 35mm 1.8 that OSS will help more than extra .4 aperture...

[@EthanChlebowski]

alphaxfang No image stabilization! I have the 18-105 with oss for those cases. The Sigma lenses is primarily for photos and video work on a tripod only.

[@alphaxfang]

@@EthanChlebowski well then that's a good choice for your set up... Ah and one thing to consider too... The bokeh ball, personally i don't like sigma bokeh ball... Kind of busy looking... But if it fit with your taste then go with that lens, it's one fast sharp lens for sure...

[@EthanChlebowski]

@@alphaxfang Indeed, I'll keep an eye out for it. I mainly wanted the lens for the sharpness!

[@EthanChlebowski]

Ta-Kuan Fuan That’s what I like to hear, I’m stoked!

[@dlovisuals]

I remember when I first bought my Canon T3i people told me the same thing, get a 50mm. I got and was like “wtf it’s so zoomed in”. Now that I know what I’m doing, I enjoy it on crop cameras for that “portrait” look, though I do love my 40mm a little bit more lol

[@JasonVong]

it only costed us $100 to realize our mistake 😂😂😂 much cheaper than going to college

[@dlovisuals]

Jason Vong waaay cheaper than going to college. Could’ve bought a whole case of coffee instead haha

[@TheNAK20]

Please do a review of the sigma 16mm ,30mm and 56 with the a6400 on the FeiyuTech G6 Plus Gimbal PLEASE!

[@vasilkosev900]

When I started photography I got a kit lens and 50mm and most of the time it was difficult to get the frame I want with the 50mm. Therefore I went to 35mm on a crop body and it felt perfect for portraits. As for what tutorials I would really want to see "how to pose a model"'. Keep making great videos!

[@music3x3]

have a 30mm 1.4 sigma on my canon 1100d, its wicked ! A bit expensive for a 2nd lens especially if you do it as a hobby and you're like 16 or so, but definetly worth !

[@asankajayarathna4880]

what is the best video lens for sony a7r3 ? is sony 16-35mm f2.8 gm best? but more expensive.. is there any other recommendations?

[@Alex_Ochoa]

Another good zoom lens which isn't as wide as the 16-35 but is a great lens for the price is the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 👍

[@eviem70]

I still love my 50mm. I bought it for my t3i about 6 yrs ago. Still use it on my now 5dm4. Love the bokeh that’s always given me. I don’t regret buying it

[@Ben-rz9cf]

It is honestly good on either. When i was out shooting in monkey forest in bali, i used my 50 1.4 on a crop sensor and it was actually the perfect focal length. Put enough distance between me and the monkeys that i wasn't scaring them off and still got some really creamy gorgeous bokeh, and some of the best shots of my career

[@TheDanishSpaceman]

Great vid! Thanks :) The number on the lens is usually the “true” focal length (on on super zooms or compact cameras you many times will see the FF equiv. field of view. What you mean is that a 50mm lens on an APS-C body gives you a 75mm FF equivalent field of view. This point is that we use the FF equivalent field of view as a reference to compare the field of view on bodies with ither sensor sizes.

[@kiyoshim9593]

he is misleading people with his video. People should stick to read the lens specifications. for example Sony50mm E 32° angle of view. Sigma50mm E 47° angle of view. Sony50mm FE 47° angle of view.

[@okaro6595]

@@kiyoshim9593 Nobody understands degrees.

[@kiliandietrich8526]

If they wrote anything else but the true value of the focal length on a lens... they would straight up lie. Because a 50mm lens always remains a 50mm lens. The glass is shaped to have it's focal point 50mm from the center of the principal plane. Full frame or not, what you mean is that the angle of view is different when you put different sensors behind the lens.

[@spencerselover]

Long story short, A 50mm is the best starting focal distance for all-around shooting. Just know the crop factor of your camera, and what you want to shoot. If you're using a cropped APSC sensor, get a 35mm instead. If your focus is landscapes go about 1/2 that.

[@okaro6595]

Actually 50 mm is too tight for indoor shooting. 35 mm is better as a general purpose lens.

[@Alex-qd1un]

So? Sigma 30mm 1.4 or Sony 50 mm 1.8 ?😩

[@quite1enough]

Marking aps-c lens with ff focal length rates just ridiculous, and I never understand that

[@saifaldin_]

John Smith They’re not marked with full frame focal lengths, but the actual focal length of the lens (physical dimension which will not change). What people mean when they say ‘full frame equivalent’ is they’re referring to the FOV that you will get if you’re using FF cameras. So the marking in mm is always correct, only the FOV will change according to what sensor size it’s being paired with.

[@quite1enough]

@@saifaldin_ what I meant is why you can't place notes on lens with mount which can be used only on aps-c bodies with ff equivalent, and how's that correct if aps-c lens marked as 50mm isn't gonna be 50mm , etc etc you know what I mean

[@saifaldin_]

John Smith They can’t label it like that; that would be wrong. The only ways they can label it correctly are: A) Label with FL (in mm) which they are doing now) B) Label with FOV (in degs) in which case they would have to put both FF & APSC numbers for each lens. C) Put all of the above Sony uses the same mount for their FF and APS-C mirrorless bodies. So even though the lenses were designed for a particular sensor size, they can still be mounted & used on other sensor sized bodies. I understand that the current way of labeling in FL can be confusing, but I can’t imagine a better way to label them (unless you don’t mind super long names for each lens)

[@davidanderson9892]

The lens casts a projection onto the sensor. A FF lens casts a larger circle, but for a given focal length e.g. 50mm, the magnification remains the same. So lets say there's a dog in the centre of the image; in each case the dog is the same height on the sensor. There's no [sensor] focal length; there's just focal length. Because the FF lens needs to cast a larger circle than the APS-C lens to cover the larger sensor, the FF lens will usually be wider across. (modern lenses are more complicated internally than the basic single lens optics model which is used to designate their focal length).

[@okaro6595]

There is no FF focal length or APS-C focal length. The lens has only its actual focal length which is not changed by the sensor size. You just should understand that with a smaller sensor one must use shorter focal lenghts. It seems that you have not understood this. I think you should first understand the basics, then you can use the crop factor and equivalences as tools. If you jump directly to them without understanding the basics you get confused.

[@austinwenger6366]

If the lenses are designed for an APSC camera like the a6500 or a6400, why would they still be mislabeled? Shouldn’t they list the true focal length if they are designed for that platform? And it not, then what’s the point of buying those if they are cropped anyway?

[@JasonVong]

I wouldn't say it's mislabeled, I'm sure there's a reasoning behind. One that I haven't learned yet lol!

[@rsmith02]

The true focal length is the number written on them, period. The meaning of the number (how wide the field of view is) depends on the sensor/film size. Hence the confusion.

[@austinwenger6366]

rsmith02 i just think it would be easier for consumers to know which is which so you don’t have that confusion. You can’t scale up an APSC lens but you can scale down a full frame lens.

[@sullinsshoots]

I'd really love to see more on event photography, low light situations, performance of arts as well as studio stuff.

[@Mr.Deeds.]

85mm all day long! Great video!

[@comichero558]

Where was this video when I bought my a6400 lol that was the first lens I bought after watching hours of KZbin .. then my son's kindergarten classroom graduation I was pushing myself against the wall for a shot 😂😂 Was going to say a macro extension vid should be next but guess your on it already , so how about some water photography tips since it's summer

[@kannonfps]

i made the "mistake" to buy an 85mm on my 750D and boy the 130mm hit hard , BUT i actually find it pretty interesting it give an other perspective on what you are shooting although i would not recommend it either :') my 85 is a yongnuo , so the price is way cheaper than a canon or anything else so it wasnt too bad of a mistake :D

[@sexysilversurfer]

Karma LOL I made the same mistake and my camera would often get the focus wrong!

[@Ben-rz9cf]

50mm is almost always better on full frame. On a crop sensor, it's basically an 85. Not terrible for portraits still, but you're going to have to have a bit of space in your studio. I would recommend for everyone to get a 50mm AND a 35mm.... Both are really close to the human perceptual range of 42mm, but one is slightly telephoto and thus very flattering for facial features on portraits and the other is slightly wide angle and thus you're able to get really close to your subject and shoot a bunch of different stuff in tight spaces. I use the 2 of these primes for like, 90% of my photography.

[@okaro6595]

That human perceptual range is pure nonsense. Human field if vision is over 180 degrees.

[@guyjordan8201]

The Internet's not my real dad

[@AlexFung93]

also keep in mind that each crop camera system can have a different crop factor. For instance, canon APS-C is usually 1.6x and Micro4/3 is usually 2x

[@aight365]

Also keep in mind that Fuji cameras have a crop factor of x1.5 lol thanks for educating the public

[@jonathan-rw3mx]

@@aight365 what?

[@EvanNakagawa]

I love my 56mm on my a6300, but I don’t use it nearly as much as I thought I would. The majority of the time I use my 18-105

[@Grr8jon]

Same, 18-105mm is just too good in a variety of situations. I use the sigma 16mm 1.4 for low light

[@danielmarcussen714]

"5 tips when going freelance"

[@muhamadazrihanifmohdaziz7201]

Using sigma 30mm f1.4 on my sony a6000 and very happy with it 👍

[@sixra]

is the sigma 30mm worth it?

[@muhamadazrihanifmohdaziz7201]

@@sixra yes its worth it for myself and the kind of photos that i like to take

[@cesarm6131]

5:24 they do that because the number printed on the lens is actually the exact value and the "true focal length". And not when you multiply it .

[@Baiikir]

Did the same mistake so i bought sigma 17-50 f/2.8 and it was my best APSC lense. :)

[@rsmith02]

Still a great lens! I use it adapted with my Sony a6500, as no e-mount equivalent exists.

[@Baiikir]

@@rsmith02 I will try it with Viltrox speedbooster on EOS M50

[@ge48421]

I find myself going back to using a 35mm equivalent lens (that would be 23mm on an APS-C camera) for documentary images. Anything wider starts showing distortion, especially in faces near the edge of the image, and anything longer does not always let you get close enough. If I carry one lens it’s that one, not a 50mm.

[@THEMATT222]

Hey, do you have a spare potato jet's autograph?

[@lensofeli1762]

when he said “who needs gir-“ and the gear flew across the room 🤣🤣i lost it

[@stampydragon2739]

And i use m42 vintage lenses up to 135mm prime

[@flightographist]

I use my sweet helios 44-2 as a 75 portrait.

[@rjnakamura1385]

damn the feels, i can relate you should've made this video 4 years ago lol

[@johnmcard3116]

He shouldn't have made it at all. Totally inaccurate information.. No mention of the fact that you buy lenses made FOR cropped sensors, and their focal lengths will be true.

[@archixemilaedventures4311]

Just bought my 50 mm lens for my APS-c Cam. lol Haay. Now I understand. But I will just be steps further to use my lens.

[@Gadgets20]

I came to a lot of these came conclusions when I started doing photography 😅. One thing to note is the crop factor on Canon is actually 1.6. On Sony it's 1.5. However if you're using a Micro 4/3s system, it's a 2x crop. Also the Canon M50 w/ the 50mm on a speed booster is pretty sweet. It gives you an equivalent focal length of 57mm.

[@johnmcard3116]

He doesn't even mention that if you buy a cropped-sensor specific lens, the focal length it is rated for will be true. Only when you put a full-frame lens on a cropped sensor will the issues arise.

[@professionalpotato4764]

@@johnmcard3116 Nope. Focal length is a physical spec of the lens. And it's a measurement of how the light is being bent to be focused. A cropped sensor lens has the exact same focal length as a full frame version if they have the same numbers. A 50mm FF lens on FF body has the same 50mm focal length of a APS-C lens on APS-C body. . The thing that changes is the field of view. The optics behave the same. Field of view is cropped as long as you're not on full frame, so just multiply it. APS-C lenses are just made smaller so there's no light "wastage", but the field of view is still effectively cropped. That is why crop sensor kit lenses have a different range (18-55), so that it provides approximately the same field of view (after the crop factor)as a 24-70 kit lens on a FF body. Check out Gerald Undone's video on crop sensors.

[@Onenamemedia2]

i loved the 50mm for my sony. I got the 18-105 G f4 now, love it more because of range. But when i shoot inside, without alot of light it looks alot worse.

[@divil2273]

How is it? I want to buy the simular 28-135

[@Onenamemedia2]

@@divil2273 28-135 or 18-135? . The 18-135 comes with less quality, both image and build.

[@divil2273]

@@Onenamemedia2 no the 28-135 f4. The cinema lens

[@Onenamemedia2]

@@divil2273 oke, dont know that one, never used it. Let me know if its a good one👌

[@edwardv365]

i just ordered the 50mm f/1.8 for my 200d and its on its way lol, no going back now

[@phoenixrising4464]

I have the same setup and love it,

[@glennurquhart2989]

Being on a budget, I got the Canon 50mm f/1.8 and the Canon 24mm f/1.8 for my Canon T7i. Love these prime lens!

[@kaiateya]

I ran into this recently, too, on an APS-C camera. Everyone said nifty fifty, nifty fifty was actually pretty cheap, so I got one. Stunning, stunning bokeh and pretty good for tripod low light / long exposures / etc. It's been changing my game for doing IR photography without a sensor filter conversion, because of the huge light influx. But yeah, I was really stumped as to why it felt like I was always zoomed in; why is everyone going nuts over this thing? Every time I went out with it, it eventually ended up in my bag and stayed there, because it's too shaky (no IS) for macro-ish shots, and it was too close in for everything else. But yeah, now it makes a lot more sense. 35mm equivalents of the same lens are ridiculously expensive in comparison, so... back to the kit lens for now. :D It's actually not bad! Just sort of a bard lens though, Jack of all trades, master of none... Edit: Forgot to say, my spouse calls this lens my "nifty eighty" now... lol.

[@Mrgunsngear]

great info

[@directorxj5093]

video starts at 4:16

[@joshblank1]

What is obsession with wider angle lenses. I love the crop / zoomed in portraits (shoulders and higher). Tack sharp eye AF and bokeh. Less distortion

[@RayValdezPhotography]

probably not that useful for video unless u have like a team or doing films and have a lot of time to change lenses for framing.

[@pisangijo419]

Why? To capture both the object and the "instagramable" environment of course, lol.

[@gmcubed]

Paul Blank wider lenses are closer to how we see the world, so we're not as taken aback when we realize we're too close to get what we want in frame. It's also not long enough in situations where you'd reach for a zoom. I only use my 50 when I have no other choice due to low light. 50 can be great if you have the time and space to experiment, but if your subjects are people they probably aren't patient enough. I havnt used one on a full frame though.

[@lomelyo]

You can't get a 50mm look with a 35mm lens is literally physically impossible. 50mm gives you the 50mm look regardless of sensor size. Tbis is a FACT. If you want to talk about how the crop is unusable sure. But otherwise this post is ignorant and you really should take it down adter this many years

[@charlien4153]

50 is a horrible recommendation for many. Recommendation needs to be on FOV

[@MasterVycen]

Holy Shit I'm so sorry but I literally thought Potato Jet and Jason Vong were the same person and just had an apocalyptic inception moment where I realized you are two different people. The resemblance is insane on so many levels!

[@KeonHector]

Lmao 30 seconds in the video and I'm already laughing

[@JasonVong]

😂😂😂

[@BlackapinoTheTechGuy]

I Just bought the Lumix G7 with the Kit lens 14-42mm , and then I bought a 25mm Lens for Blur in the Background AND...then I bought the 45-150mm Lens, so THAT's pretty much all the lenses I own. These are what I use for my Videotography.

[@asura4938]

So true, wish I had seen this earlier...

[@MikeLikesChannel]

Best thing I've told newbies getting a crop camera is to start with a 24mm or 35mm lens. Crop factor is never well understood by those starting out (including some pros). 50mm crop lenses are not a smartphone PoV, and as such, not beginner friendly. 50mm lenses make perfect sense... if your camera is full-frame. Unlikely with a newbie looking for budget cameras.

[@mattmarusic4636]

Dudeeee finallyyy a newwwwww videoooo

[@JasonVong]

been cooking up other videos! higher production, they're coming soon!

[@mattmarusic4636]

Jason Vong can’t wait!! Btw, you are my favorite youtuber (who cares about Potato Jet).

[@thekid9989]

Here's a really big rabbit hole, I am a travel photographer who uses a 75mm (150mm) on a Micro four/thirds. I will also add that I also cary a 17mm (34mm) for some wide angle shots. On top of that I am buying a full frame because I am starting to do more portraits locally.

[@platinumacer8119]

This video was so helpful in recommending good lenses. I feel like I say this every video but it was amazing as usual!

[@michaelpablo372]

which lens should I buy next for video work. I have 16mm 1.4 56mm or 30mm? Thanks!

[@Alex_Ochoa]

Depends on what you're shooting,I think both of those are great for b roll type of shots, and even interview type of videos. Only thing is when it comes to video work if you are using a mic mounted on the camera or getting audio in camera as well from your subject you might be a little too far from them , unless you use a lav . Ultimately comes down to what you're filming

[@Milan-cf1xe]

Finally one talking about that. I made the same mistake

[@doublahh]

I own the Sigma 30mm 1.4 and it's become my go to lens for my Canon 80D. Sadly my "Nifty fifty" has become the redheaded stepchild that's been ignored and soon will start to worry because it's taking up space at the orphanage. Lol

[@MrAlfredkwok]

It really depends on what type of photography you are in when choosing the next lens, and man this is a really good guide

[@JasonVong]

glad this looks solid!

[@erumc5839]

hello beginner here! i have an a6400 with a sigma 30mm 1.4 i want for portraits like cosplay photos and street night photos... did i do a nice buy? i mean can i use only that lens for those two? thanks for reading and sorry for my english isnt my principal language thanks!

[@carlneraphoto]

I’d love to see more tutorials on portrait photography! 😁😁 I Love the 50mm focal length, perfect for portraits. But I really agree that 50mm is too tight, so 35mm or 24mm is good for all around.

[@JeremyCWW]

For apsc?

[@cfsitalisay3312]

@@JeremyCWW yes!

[@AliRastafa]

Nope, definately you are not right. Take a portrait photo with 24/35 and compare it to 50/85.

[@ArianOby]

What d heck🙄🙄🙄! ... first of all .... I was like I thought I already subscribed to @potatoejet ... then realised you arent him ... ... secondly .... the resemblance is uncanny ... I subscribed to you after watching this ... Ever considered being a stunt double for @potatoejet?? Lol👍👍👍

[@villashartvig7699]

I would love to see a astrophotography video from you, or a collaboration with Sony ambassador Kyle Meyr, and see you take photos together.

[@htc148]

"dont worry about being too close to your object" *filming girl* 🤣🤣 jk

[@BrianTheCameraGuy]

OMG I thought the same thing. I was originally going to get the a7iii bit ended up getting the a6400. You are totally right it feels really close.

[@BrianTheCameraGuy]

@S Tra Would have loved a Porsche but I would take a Honda Civic. This stuff is expensive man. No need to put yourself in financial ruin over it.

[@simrankhurana4396]

@S Tra ultimately the full frame is ridiculously expensive due to the kens

[@johnnerdelbaumfrink2657]

Although I also think a 35mm lens is a better choice for an APS-C sensor, a 50mm will always have a focal length of 50mm... no matter what sensor size you're using (MFT, APS-C, full frame, medium format). It's a lens with a given focal length and the size of the sensor can't change its optical output. A 35mm lens on an APS-C sensor is not equivalent to a 52mm lens on a full frame. They will only have the same angle of view, and that's it.

[@Elaba83]

There's also a thing like speedboosters for removing that crop factor (when using vintage FF lenses)

[@craigskoney1627]

50 mm on a 1.5 crop sensor IS NOT 75 mm; it's 50 mm CROPPED IN to the same FIELD OF VIEW as a 75 mm . 50 mm is always 50 mm. You have to step back further to frame the shot so it's the same as on a full frame camera, because of the crop. The magnification /reach doesn't change. The whole equivalence thing needs to end.

[@ostettivictor]

My second job is a landscape/cityscape photographer, and i use a lot 10-18mm lens on my a6000, until i discover the 70-200 and 100-400, they are WAY BETTER lenses for landscape, for panoramas, giving me more resolution, compression, and moreemphasis on my subjetcs, making my composition a WAY MORE EASY

[@Anarki2U]

It would be much easier if lenses was informed with their diagonal angle of view in degrees, in that way you can always compare all cameras no matter what size of the sensor (exect for DOF). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_view I will prefer a 85mm on a 24x36mm("fullframe") camera, the DOF are shallower and much more pleasing than a 55mm on a APSC camera. That said I use a 135mm on A7R4 ;)

[@andrewtongue7084]

This is complete balls, Jason - the photographer utilises the equipent they have, & adapts accordingly - there's no such 'perfect' lens, & in truth, unless you have a limitless budget, most photographers starting out will purchase a crop frame DSLR - the "1.5" factor is easily calculated....the rest is moot information, my friend; but you're entertaining, so that's a plus. Happy New Year (including the upcoming Chinese New Year) !! :D

[@BenelliMr]

you did everything wrong this time: you want IS? Buy a camera with IS. You want a 50mm? Everybody recommended a 50 mm equivalent to you. You had a 50 on APSC? What a cheap way to get a portrait lens!!! A 50 mm (equivalent) forces you to zoom with the feet, not the fingers. But then in 90% of all cases you got the better perspective for a better photo. You don't believe me? Go back to basics; borrow a 4*5 inch camera and get the fundamentals of photography right. Then get (rent/borrow) a 8*10 inch camera and reiterate the lessons of Ansel Adams. Then get a small Rollei or Minox camera with 35 mmm equivalent and do street photography. Like Henri Cartier-Bresson. Then go back to your digital cameras and give your 50 mm (equivalent) a second chance. I can predict the future: your photos will be so much better. And don't forget the basic lesson of optics: the smaller the lens, the less you have to correct. Try this out also at night. Or sunsets. Or other difficult lighting conditions. And: most important: when you get a great photo with a prime lens, you feel such a psychological satisfaction. You could never get this satisfaction with a 10-1000 mm 1.0 zoom lens, sitting on a chair and zooming around until you got a good photo by hazard.

[@markangelodickenson6773]

Hi Jason. Big fan of your channel here. hey i just want your expert opinion. I am new to photography and want to go being a wedding photographer, I have a Sony A7ii as of now and I have a Tamron 28-75 f2.8. I just want to ask which lens should i buy next. I am considering the Sony 85mm 1.8 or the wide angle 16-35mm f4. Which one would you recommend? Also i want to do some food and real state photography. Please help me.

[@ThierryWasserman]

Watching this after the video where he highly recommends a 85mm lens is confusing. The 50mm is an 80mm on a canon APSC.

[@jordanjoestar8839]

My first lens was a 50.. 1.8f on a Sony A6000 and many people give me the "woah what did you shoot that on?". The answer is always 50mm. Matches the attitude and vibe of whatever im shooting. People over think it. Aim the camera. Does it look good? Yes/No. That is the only metric you should go by. Numbers and sensor mathematics are not what determine a GOOD photo. Use what you need to recreate what your brain is seeing/envisioning. Yes it helps knowing the math behind what you're grabbing, but don't write it off because of a factor you can adjust too, and often succeed with.

[@renanrossidias]

Basically, the reason why i don't get a full-frame camera is the very same reason you don't get a Lambo. Liked how Jason convinced me to buy a 50mm lens to my APS-C on a "Why I Don't Recommend 50mm Lens" video.

[@JJohnson313]

No. They recommend the nifty 50 because it’s literally a better lens than the kit lens. It’s sharper and let’s in more light. Also, if you’re doing a portrait then you wanna use a “85” and it’s close to that.

[@Mikri90]

I know you are simplifying for the sake of not confusing your audience, but I will indulge myself and be overly pedantic for a moment. "50mm on a FF is a 50mm".... Correct, but 50mm is 50mm on ANY format, it's just that the 35mm became the reference point for evaluating most other formats. A 50mm lens still retains it's properties even on a smaller format, it's just that the smaller surface area crops in the image. The lens still behaves the same, it just has a narrower field of view. I am saying this because I noticed a lot of people think that the lens actually changes its characteristics and that it becomes equivalent to a 75/1.8 lens which is only partially accurate. It is only an equivalent field of view (FOV), but a 50mm on APS-C would be equivalent to something like a 75/2.8, because you also have to account the smaller pupil size (aperture opening, which is larger in absolute terms on a longer lens) which is smaller, so you have to account for that. True equivalence therefore also takes aperture into account. Same applies in the other direction. 50mm on a larger format will give a wider field of view but also a larger lens opening compared to a wider lens on FF that has the same FOV and the same relative aperture. All of this is, of course, because the f/stop is just a relative number, it's a ratio between the focal length and the actual opening in absolute terms. If we compare different focal lengths with the same aperture, let's say 50/1.8 on APS-C and some imaginary 75/1.8 on FF, and take into account the difference between the absolute sizes of lens apertures, it becomes clear that to have fully equivalent lenses in terms of the look they output, the shorter lens has to have larger relative aperture to equalize the difference and have the same absolute size of the lens opening.

[@okaro6595]

No, the true focal length is always what is printed on the lens. The sensor does not change the focal length. The 59 mm just behaves differently on a crop sensor as it crops the edges.

[@kiyoshim9593]

you are misleading people thats why you have so many dislikes in this video. you have to check lens specification PERIOD. check "Angle of view" For Example Sony 50mm E, Nikon 35mm are thevsame but Sigma 50mm E is not. at the end "check lens specifications" thats why they have it there

[@Anarki2U]

That are so wrong, on a APSC sensor camera a 50mm makes sense ! 50mm on APSC equals a 75mm on "fullfomat" 24x36 sensor camera and gives an exellent allround lens. Opposite the 50mm gives NO sense what so ever on a 24x36 sensor camera, everything shorter or longer as a 50mm makes much more sens on the "fullformat" 24x36 sensor camera, so at least 45mm or shorter lens and at least 55mm or longer lens !!!

[@CamaradaMejia]

I know you were likely trying to keep it simple, but technically a 50mm is a 50mm on any camera. Your FOV changes of course, but the focal length is still 50mm. Using a 35mm on a crop sensor will get you 50mm FOV, but you'll still have 35mm distortion and compression. A 50mm on a crop will get you a 75mm FOV but you'll still get the 50mm compression. You're just taking a smaller section of the image circle and blowing it up larger.