“52% of Graduates Don’t Use Their Degrees” - The Disturbing Truth About College

[@ktkeeng]

Getting a college degree was the biggest waste of money & time for me. Graduated with a BS in 2005 and have not once used it! Huge regret.

[@theauntofdragons]

I say all the time, if I could go back in time and warn myself about anything, I'd say, "don't submit that college application."

[@juicysmith38235]

Heartbreaking! What's your major?

[@consortiumexpert]

Same thing here since 2006. I am focusing on skill acquisition now.

[@kelleemerson9510]

Get together with others and sue. I totally believe you were scammed.

[@rrrealqueen]

What did you get a degree in? I never got a degree but I was able to work for Fidelity and move my way up with the company. It took a year of unpaid internship than 19/an hour. And then i moved up as a stock broker.

[@MargateFL33063]

College gets you the job interview, experience gets you the job... Most companies and bosses don't want to train.

[@AlbertCamus-r6i]

They don't even want to hire you if you lack the precious "two years of experience". What a crock.

[@Fredflinstone23]

Its not experience that get you the job… Its who you know

[@kingmaafa120]

Military

[@AlbertCamus-r6i]

@@kingmaafa120 What if you can't do that due to a Felony Conviction?

[@madmonkey762]

It's stupid that they don't want to train you, but they also won't hire you if you don't have a bachelor's degree or higher. I've been to many interviews for various IT positions, and a bachelor's degree is what they look for.

[@jermainemyrn19]

I have a friend who didn't even graduate high school. He went on youtube and used online resources to self teach his way into software engineering. His first job out the gate was at Adobe for 120k. If you get a degree, they won't hire you without experience. I have another friend with 4 degrees and he works as a janitor at a college campus and he's angry all the time.

[@rrrealqueen]

I dont have a degree and I work as a stock broker managing people's retirement funds. Im 20. It took me a year of no pay internship out of highschool working for Fidelity and Black rock to get there. They took me in because they rather train me than higher a college person and pay them more lol. Started at 19/an hour now Im at 125 an hour managing accounts just because I got a long with the managers there after 2 years. Lifes crazy man

[@checolate9680]

Yep. I know a guy that learned to program computers by himself. He started in Mexico working for HP. Now he works for Walmart in Illinois I think. He makes above 140k. No degree.

[@bkstandard882]

Your friend is the exception and got lucky

[@johnnyhandsome3424]

A janitor? 🧢

[@jermainemyrn19]

@@rrrealqueen niceee

[@adamsnelson4689]

As John Rockefeller once said ' I Dont Want A Nation Of Thinkers ~ I Want A Nation Of Workers ' ....

[@FergBent2.4]

Damn!!

[@MrEzamora89]

Yea and most of school is not practical k-12

[@devxsadik]

😂 workers = slaves Thinkers = cutthroat business man

[@AndreiPopescu]

@@devxsadik Also "the thinkers" can can work as an unqualified workers until they find a job or start a business where they use their college degree.

[@dianabenavides2913]

​@@MrEzamora89 the purpose of school was to teach the bible

[@ll2323]

Let’s talk about all the jobs that say they need degrees but in reality don’t.

[@gypsyvanner-b1r]

My supervisor (engineering) in the 70s was a high school dropout. The man was brilliant and it came by wanting to learn, not being forced to learn.

[@Dohair879]

Hospitality Management. What a joke. Get a job at the bottom and it’s called work your way up. In 4 years if you work hard you can run the hotel. Yet kids pay for this degree.

[@ll2323]

@@gypsyvanner-b1r crazy! My electronics teacher never graduated but was a gadget wiz! He worked for zenith and somehow became an engineer through the company alone. What happened to that route?

[@quietus13]

Pretty much any government management job, to include some military officers but especially in the bureaucracy. Most are needless and a complete waste of space. Many of them spend all their time making up justifications for their existence while actually adding little to no value.

[@C1K450]

@@Dohair879problem is most kids doesn’t want to put in work nowadays. Always looking for a “get rich quick” method, like the so called trades but doesn’t understand what they’re getting themselves into except at looking at red pill posts about the trades. Also for the students attending college, most are unsure what to do with their lives and go for the easier degrees. I can tell you the ones who are graduating in medicine, law, engineering, accounting/finance, and public administration are better off than those easy degrees or tradesperson.

[@deborahasher176]

Both my daughter and son had no desire to attend college. My daughter got real world experience in sales and my son became a licensed exterminator, and they both made really good money.

[@dianabenavides2913]

I am very sorry you are not listening to yourself the purpose of education was never to make money.... Your kids are amazing for making good money without the degree, however, the problem they both have is the lack of education....When people teach bible for example, there is zero comprehension of the text... There are even preachers out there that don't grasp reading. Education is what enables people to become human it teaches us who we are as a society. The problem is that people think education is for the purpose of education when it is not. Public schools started in Germany to teach the people how to read scriptures.

[@dianabenavides2913]

Investigate the how education and philosophy shaped Greek and Roman societies and you will love education

[@deborahasher176]

​@@dianabenavides2913I am well aware of my comment. Of course education is important however, not necessarily college. Did you even listen to the stats?

[@princessmarlena1359]

@@dianabenavides2913 ok, nerd

[@highdefinitionstanleytm9614]

​@@dianabenavides2913who gives a flying fuck about the bible and its magic sky man.

[@drewelliott9062]

One of the best decisions I made was not going to college despite what every adult in my life told me all growing up. I've lived a happy and successful life and I'm debt free in my early 30s.

[@alexbob5209]

What do you do for a living?

[@hornetguy9063]

Good stuff. Even I’m a little mixed on my college degree and I’ve actually gone on to a lucrative career. I think of the opportunity cost of not being free to fail, for example. And my first 4 or so years post grad were hell.

[@Phriffo]

Good! Follow your heart!❤️ I dropped out recently, and I am following my purpose. I am scared, but God will show me light and guide me!✝️❤️

[@olliegarcia2306]

@@alexbob5209he’s a bum …

[@olliegarcia2306]

@@Phriffoyup follow ur heart straight into homelessness! 👍

[@thund3rstruck]

I didn't have money for college when I graduated in the late 1990s and nobody to co-sign for a loan so I joined the US Navy instead. Four years later my friends all began graduating college and returning home to work at Wal-mart, McDonalds, the bowling alley, or the movie theater whereas I returned with specialized skills and training. I have never had student loans to repay and I've always earned a far higher salary than any of my college graduate friends. Not being able to get a student loan was easily the most profitable 'mistake' I have ever made.

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

Well, you could have had the military to pay for your college. Had you had a college degree, you could have climbed the ranks and earned much higher pay over the course of your entire career. A buddy of mine went to college then joined the Navy. He had a 28 career Navy career, and retired as an officer at 50 years of age. He's now fully retired, traveling, and enjoying life to the fullest.

[@davidstorck9368]

education is nothing but big business

[@isaacannanjr2371]

The HIGHER the education, the HIGHER the debt will be. Better to learn a trade, or upskill IT skills online. We're all cogs in this rat race machine.

[@studentfreedom]

Schools largely don't teach entrepreneurship because elites want less competition.

[@SteveHonakerII]

Got an associates degree in Automotive Repair and levered it up to a job in Engineering. Planning to save money for my kids Future Fund and will work with them to decide how to use it. Maybe trades, maybe buying a business, maybe college degree that has a good career track at a school with reasonable rates, but I'm done with this college is for everyone it doesn't matter what degree crap.

[@consortiumexpert]

You, my friend, are right. GOD bless you.

[@AndreiMitrica-i3l]

lol it’s a legal Ponzi scheme. Anyone with a just mind can correctly assess it’s a legal scam; but if we’re going down that rabbit hole, what isn’t?

[@AceKite00]

Getting a college degree was a mistake. I could've used those 4 years to ask around, get connections, and develop skills. Instead, I studied for a piece of paper that i don't use and ended up working underemployed at a labor job anyway. To say I'm bitter and disappointed would be an understatement.

[@illuvitarv5]

Same although I’m more grateful that I have a labor job as an office setting is a pain and earning nearly triple as much

[@aolvaar8792]

At interview, I slide my diploma, etched on a plate of Silver, " I know you must be tired of seeing diplomas printed on toilet paper."

[@emzywillrich7243]

Life is what you make it, remember?

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

Well that's your fault for picking the wrong college major. I went to college, and graduated, and it's the best thing I've done in my life.

[@ISpitHotFiyaa]

It's not even the tuition that's the biggest expense - it's your time. You're giving up a lot of earnings when you go to school for four or five years. Unless you're academically talented you should at least consider other options. Too many kids go to college without really thinking about why they're going. Also, fine arts are generally not lucrative but they're also not a very popular major. There are plenty of STEM and business grads in that 52% underemployed. .

[@gypsyvanner-b1r]

So many go because their parents expect them to and believe the degree is the absolute, only way. That is nonsense and the curriculum these days is more than a little dangerous.

[@julzb8398]

Yes, so many people forget this! My husband started full time work at 15, by 21 he was in management and now fully self employed in an industry he has 9 years full time experience working in, he’s 24. I didn’t go to college either. Our household income is above average.

[@fern-cx3bf]

What about animation? That counts as fine arts right? I mean 2D animation

[@jishanborno]

​@mypapaya590 Then tell me this. Let's say I graduated with a masters in computer science. But soon after I get that degree, I rip it to shreds. Now tell me, did all my knowledge go away after ripping apart my degree? Exactly! A degree is merely an ordinary piece of paper in this scenario. Not having a degree doesn't make you dumb. And having a degree certainly doesn't make you smart. As for your comment about a degree + experience, what's the point of having a degree if you never end up using it? And how can employers know if a candidate didn't fabricate their degree or cheated their way through? Thats why relevant work experience and knowledge should be prioritized more than a more piece of paper.

[@KekeliBuckner]

The truth is a bitter pill to swallow

[@billprendgergast8976]

Self educated people can be great people,college educated tend to overthink and worry about LGBTQI, climate change, pronouns, racism and history.......Greed wins.because money is power....and humans are still an animal that worship those with money and power.....

[@TonyDaExpert]

Watching this as someone who got a job straight out of college in my field with 0 debt. College needs to be done with a solid plan but if you don’t need college other options can be just as good or even better. Don’t go to college without a plan unless you got money to burn.

[@prissarpong]

I agree. Also, the majority of people who don't go the college route are worse off than those who do but we only hear of the few who made it without college and then they come screaming college is a scam lol. College is a business not a charity. If you don't plan how you want to leverage it to your benefit, don't blame them for doing their business. It's like a credit card, they give it to you but it's up to you to decide what you'll do with it and not get into debt.

[@studentfreedom]

The fault lies with the fact that students don't graduate high school with much knowledge about the different careers they can go into. If in school they interned in a variety of fields and talked to workers in a wide variety of fields, you wouldn't have so many students going into useless degrees.

[@studentfreedom]

Even basic stuff like what percentage of college graduates in a particular field are employed into the field for common college degrees should be taught.

[@chloemarzipan6770]

The school system can’t educate you or be too helpful. For colleges, that’s too much profit to be lost.

[@studentfreedom]

@@acrane3496 People will spend about 90000 hours over a lifetime working yet, at least from my own experience in a government school, there wasn't even a single class that went over basic information regarding different careers. A symposium would be a good step up.

[@farrahabdelghafar5710]

I agree .

[@xisigma]

Could child labor laws have negative side effects? If kids could work part time in more fields as gophers maybe they would be more mature and know what they want to do in life.

[@michaeln.2383]

Everyone figures out that Santa Claus doesn't exist real quick, but they never catch on to the college degree scam.

[@erikprestonTV]

Everything is scam. Taxes and social security is scam

[@bryantaragon2922]

I'm a travel nurse making 140k a year. I have no debt and I only have my associate degree in nursing. some degrees are worth it. In my opinion college is only worth it you become a lawyer, engineer, or health. My sister Is a CRNA and she make 182K a year.

[@1guitar12]

@@acrane3496 We will never get to a standardized system like you’re suggesting. Capitalism is too dynamic, both in job functions and demanding changes in degree requirements. However the higher you go in the corporate ladder, the more generic MBA degrees are required. These higher ladder rungs have been standardized cookie cutter degrees due to demands in impressive credentials…marketing their “ROI” for shareholders and investors. The layers below executives are very inconsistent based on a number of things including company cultures, budgets, managers who could give a crap to actually manage, and unrealistic perfect job descriptions for ATS screening. It used to be who-you-knew networking that landed jobs compared to now where candidates are screened for the perfect “checklist” candidate. In addition, all universities are degree mills just to keep revenue for large staffing salaries and retirement, and in doing so aren’t adept to keeping up with market changes. In other words, they remain poor in effort to stay relevant in today’s accelerated technology shifts.

[@themonsterwithin4000]

⁠@@bryantaragon2922 I have a few questions: 1) Do you have a LinkedIn? 2) What state do you mostly operate in? 3) What’s your hourly rate? 4) How many hours do you work per week?

[@dianabenavides2913]

​@@bryantaragon2922 so basically life is dependent on making lots of money?

[@jonathanfree1186]

To many employees not enough employers, we need more business owners.

[@jackcarraway4707]

Found the bootlicker

[@jermainemyrn19]

There is a reason the minority of the country is rich and business owners

[@jackcarraway4707]

Found the bootlicker

[@AlbertCamus-r6i]

> TFW the Regulations and Laws that currently exist, exists to prevent people from becoming business owners So much for that...

[@jackcarraway4707]

@@jermainemyrn19 Employers want people that are easily manipulated and bullied.

[@arisgod2749]

Graduated with a BS in Physics. Ended up working in the IT field, and retired at 58 from a management position.

[@TonyMoze]

so would you say your degree in Physics was BS? (badum tss)

[@zayeemsavage6488]

Then ur degree was useless u think??

[@phil1pd]

@@zayeemsavage6488 No I think that likely helped him in getting employed in IT.

[@zayeemsavage6488]

@@phil1pd yeah that's what i was pointing.

[@emzywillrich7243]

You should have made it astrophysics instead. That would have been planning for the future.

[@TonyMoze]

I love how Patrick is making videos on things not others even want to talk about. Either people like to just make KZbin videos on what's reading as TRENDING on KZbin, or they just go with the trends..... But between his last video on Recycling and this, this all is great stuff!

[@Booster85]

Get an apprenticeship and skip college, just a scam that ends up with massive debt

[@Booster85]

@@7change7 well said and glad your doing well 👏

[@fastfowardbutton1965]

Depends on what degree nowadays, medicine, law, or engineering are the only great fields, everything else is useless.

[@stockpile2137]

Funny thing to admit, I am in a mentorship in 2D/3D art. I am looking to apply to jobs after the economy recovers.

[@deborahasher176]

​​@UndergroundWorld0My son started his when he was 16. So it is possible. He became a licensed exterminator and made good money.

[@OfficallyAddictive]

Not if you join the military. Lol. Two degrees, free 99 and now working on my PhD.

[@slundgr]

I have a B.S. and a master's degree. The best thing about those degrees is they opened doors to career opportunities that otherwise would not have been available. Go to a trade school or apprenticeship and learn a skill or a trade and make money to support yourself and your family. College is not for everyone, and we have five generations of teachers in our family.

[@cameronbell415]

Lol teachers have become one of the worst professions for making society worse As the saying goes "those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

[@slundgr]

@@cameronbell415 Didn't someone teach you to read and write and do math?

[@llpp202]

I graduated college with no debt after attending a CC for 2 years. During my time in college I built a home service business that looks more promising now than using my MIS Degree. If I had to choose to do it over again, I would do it this way. People forget they have their entire lives to work. Having fun and meeting people in college is worth it so long as you don't go into debt.

[@slundgr]

@@llpp202 You did it the right way. I hope you would share your experiences with others, especially young people and high schools to let them know it can be done. Kudos to you.

[@jaredleicht1656]

Paying ridiculous sums of money for a piece of paper which is more about indoctrination and putting the brainwashed into key positions others can't access without getting brainwashed also. A person can learn the same things at the public library or internet. But it's about controlling the chessboard. Not education.

[@agentooe33AD]

My son just started an Electrician Apprenticeship program. It pays $14/hr, 40hrs a week, and they pay for his schooling to be certified. Two foremen he's spoken to, have both told him that once he finishes this 4 year program, he'll be in a position to make up to 100K a year or close to it starting out. A lot of states are paying for people to go to school for electrician because there's a shortage, also for this reason, why companies are paying well. Instead of running up massive debt, my son is getting paid to get real world experience, and his schooling is being paid for by the company he's working for. When he finishes, he'll be in a position to make a good living right out of the gate. Thank Christ that a brother from our congregation turned him on to this program. Do your research folks. Universities are largely a scam. God's blessings to you all!

[@CrabFiles]

Anything below 130k now is considered lower middle class in the major cities...

[@OmarOsman98]

@@CrabFilesand you don’t even make 70

[@CrabFiles]

@@OmarOsman98 I am upper middle class, I don't have to look at prices when shopping for groceries. However I have to look at prices when buying Italian suits and vehicles etc... Anyone who has been making between 140 to 180k over the past 5 years has seen their quality of life reduced... Because the 20-25 dollar steaks are now 35-40, the 3000-4000 dollar suits are now 5000-8000... The 40k cars are now 60-80k :P So, if you like wearing Rolexes, italian suits driving around in a sports car eating fine steaks and bone marrow etc... You feel it now for sure...

[@tswagg504]

@@CrabFiles😂😂😂

[@ll2323]

@@CrabFilesthank u for letting us know ur out of touch. 😂

[@jeffbianchiguitar]

I studied music performance in college and recieved a BA. More than 1 high school teacher offhinted that I was wasting my time on a useless degree. Got a great education and focused on making a living / career out of my art as opposed to being "famous" .... Made my college tution back a couple times over and made a nice, simple life. I have a self employed 401k and a small house in a rural town. I've performed around the country many times over.

[@darkgalaxy5548]

Q: What's the difference between a pizza and a musician? A: A pizza can feed a family of 4.

[@Nik-rx9rj]

Good job! That’s incredible

[@dwaynehudspeth2073]

You are the exception, not the rule

[@Henry_Games1]

I"m actually GLAD that I got my college degree. In fact, I got a Master's degree. I work in education administration. By the way, I had a great time and great memories WHILE going for my college degree. I met a lots of friends and met my wife. So, college worked out for me. Going to college don't have to be a bad decision if you do it prudently. For example, major in something that would get you a job once you graduate, etc. In my current job, I don't have to work as hard as I did when I worked in a grocery store, etc. And I don't have to worry about competition when getting a job, etc. But then again, through college, I had music scholarships, grants and my job paid for my school. They paid for my undergrad and grad. So, it was free for me and I didn't have any debt after graduating. So for me; going to college was a no-brainer. But, not everybody is like me and I'm not everybody else lol 😅🤣.

[@Wolf-bz6kq]

Im in my 30s decided to go to college for psychology hoping to be a clinical therapist to help people deal with thier own problems and become mentally resilient. I did not have the vision nor the discipline to follow through 10 years ago in my 20s. Dont go to any school unless u have a clear goal in mind and at least 3 different career paths in mind to take

[@bryantaragon2922]

I'm a travel nurse making 140k a year. I have no debt and I only have my associate degree in nursing. some degrees are worth it. In my opinion college is only worth it you become a lawyer, engineer, or health. My sister Is a CRNA and she make 182K a year.

[@diosdadojrlubiano7674]

29yrs old college dropout. Confused and bamboozled of what I really want to do.

[@jackwolp2634]

@@diosdadojrlubiano7674 If you want some suggestions I would suggest watching some videos on youtube and seeing what is out there and what skills you may need for some of those jobs. Maybe asking some family members or friends on how they got into their fields and what attracted them to it would help as well.

[@goddaniel9478]

@@diosdadojrlubiano7674yo bro i would recommend going to community college and starting slow

[@seanm7539]

@@diosdadojrlubiano7674me to I didn’t drop out per say but the certification program. I went through was bullshit

[@_Fulgur_]

my advice to students are two things. 1. don't assume college is gonna teach you everything, try and learn some skills on the side while in college. there are practically online courses for many skills you can learn. 2. research the effect AI has on the industry you're applying for, for example business intelligence is being rapidly replaced by AI software

[@christophersoutherlin2631]

This is how I felt back in 2005. Half the courses were Gen Ed courses that had nothing to do with my degree, and the remaining courses didn't teach any skills needed in the outside world.

[@studentfreedom]

This also applies to K-12 schooling. Schools make you learn foreign languages and a whole lot of stuff that only a very small portion of people make use of. Limit what is taught in the curriculum to the broadly useful stuff, have students graduate high school younger and go to trade school/college etc. younger.

[@studentfreedom]

You can learn the narrowly useful skills outside of K-12 schooling.

[@hanel990]

Accounting is an underrated degree. Go to an affordable public university and pass the CPA exam. You cannot go wrong with job stability and predictable salary/job growth.

[@dxquade]

Accounting and a little comp. sci. background would go a long way.

[@bikerboy9010]

@@dxquade I agree with you. There's lots of jobs out there in accounting and Computer Science.

[@bikerboy9010]

Accounting degrees are excellent degrees to get. There's lots of jobs out there for people with Accounting backgrounds. Accounting jobs tend to have great salaries. The CPA certification is an excellent certification to get. Other great financial certifications to get are the CFA certification, financial advisor certifications, loan officer certifications, CMA certification, etc.

[@obiwan7701]

Very true , they will never tell you the job opportunities that arent there after you finish college or university because of all the money these places make off of you and the huge bill that awaits you to pay back but no jobs await you in that field because of all the grads and experienced unemployed in that particular field looking for work as well so you end up taking what ever to make ends meet and to pay back that huge education bill that puts you debt right of the bat with no job .

[@victoruribe2465]

I got a BA in History after 5 years in Community College and 2 years in University after struggling with 2 previous majors but I graduated debt-free because I was a dependent student living with my parents and qualified with financial aid. Things were going steady until the pandemic hit and my career was stalled. I had to find work that was essential and became a package handler; I struggled at first as it was physical but I got comfortable later on. After 17 months, I became a landscaper working full-time 5-6 days a week for 8 1/2 hours a day and still there. I know I’m a long way to find work related to my major due to various circumstances like lack of experience but I got will, hope, and faith to get the chance.

[@emzywillrich7243]

You should have made it business.

[@supreme5998]

Honestly, for most people going to college are there to focus their energy on learning while discovering what they actually can or want to do. It would be great if everyone grew up knowing what they want to do and just went to school for that but the reality is people have no clue and just wander around until they find something they can do for a long time. If you go to college for 4 years and get a degree you don’t use, you’re still more marketable than a person who spent 4 years hopping around part time jobs.

[@roymongin8886]

Get a 2 year tech/trade degree and don't be too picky about your first job. Do what you gotta do to stack that resume.

[@Up2_nogood]

As someone who is in the trades and hears this question somewhat frequently.. My first question to you is: Are you afraid of busting your hump and actually working with your hands? It can be 10 hour days, in rough conditions, with grumpy ass people. My next question is what are your personal interests in the trades? What seems magical to you still? Working with electric has always been fascinating to me. ​@joleokach

[@middleamerica3999]

💯

[@middleamerica3999]

@@joleokachwhile you take the required courses @Tech School visit the trade shows to see what floats your boat.

[@deborahasher176]

​@@joleokachI know a woman who was a welder. The company who hired her paid for her training.

[@aesop1451]

@@joleokach I don't have experience with any of these, so do your own research. But you might want to look into nursing, dental hygiene, cosmetology, optician, interior design, and court recording/stenography.

[@awolf81]

Colleges are most definitely for profit businesses but it’s absolutely worth getting a STEM degree. Also trade jobs are lucrative and in demand but many are labor intensive and tear up your body over time.

[@Likeaworm]

Trade income will supersede white collar income in the near future. Basic supply and demand

[@AlbertCamus-r6i]

F* the Trades. Went to Trade School for a year - 8 months out from graduation, and I STILL haven't gotten a Welding job. Get outta here.

[@bikerboy9010]

@@AlbertCamus-r6i Congratulations on graduating from trade school. I think graduating from a trade school is a great accomplishment that you should be proud of. Sorry to hear how you're still looking for a welding job. I wish you the best in your job search. I hope you get a good welding job. I don't think a trade school degree is worthless. I don't think a welding degree is worthless. Welding is a good career to get into. There's lots of job opportunities in welding, plumbing, being a mechanic, being an electrician, being a construction worker, etc. There's lots of job opportunities in the trades. I know lots of people with trade school degrees and college degrees in marketable fields with lots of jobs in the field such as engineering, computer science, accounting/finance, business administration, etc that struggled to find jobs in their fields after graduation, and it wasn't due to their degree being useless, their work ethic, not trying hard enough, discrimination, making a bad impression during the interview, having a criminal record, etc. Jobs nowadays are extremely competitive. Some people make the mistake of assuming that if someone has a trade school degree, an Engineering degree, Computer Science degree, Accounting/Finance degree, or a Business Administration degree, and they're struggling with landing jobs in their field that it's due to things such as their degree being useless, not trying hard enough, having a bad resume, making a bad impression during the interview, having a criminal record, etc when in reality that's not true. There's lots of people who have trade school degrees, engineering degrees, computer science degrees, business degrees, etc that are struggling with finding a job in their field, and it's not due to their work ethic, not trying hard enough, discrimination, making a bad impression during the interview, having a criminal record, etc. Jobs nowadays are extremely competitive to get. Having a degree in a marketable field and the interview going well isn't enough to land an engineering job, finance job, business job, a plumbing job, a welding job, a mechanic job, etc. Meeting the general criteria for a job and the interview going well is enough to land a fast food job, waiter job, warehouse job, amazon driver job, lifeguard job, etc, but that's not enough to land an engineering job, a business job, a financial job, a computer science job, a marketing job, a trades kind of job, an electrician job, a welding job, etc. Jobs are hard to come by since many jobs often involve 40-200 applicants competing for the job and only 1 person out of all of the applicants getting the job, and even if you meet the general criteria for the job, the educational criteria for the job, have a great resume, have a lot of relevant experience, are highly qualified for the job, and make a great impression during the interview, there's still a strong chance that you won't be the selected candidate for the job. The selected candidate for the job is usually a highly qualified person that the hiring manager knows or a highly qualified person that had a referral, recommendation letter, etc sent to the hiring manager from a trusted and relevant professional reference. Volunteering, interning, networking, making professional connections, etc definitely helps in landing jobs. Almost everyone I know that got their first electrician job, plumbing job, trades job, engineering job, financial job, computer science job, etc got the job due to someone they know hiring them or due to some trusted and relevant professional reference submitting a referral, a recommendation letter, etc to the hiring manager. Congratulations on getting a trade school degree. I wish you the best.

[@LaneelyNeely]

Not all trade jobs tear up your body I drive trucks dangerous yes but I’m never over working my body only when I go to the gym

[@discoking4423]

Went into the workforce at 18, pivoted into IT at 31 by getting Certs and watching KZbin videos. Now I work with guys who are still paying off CompSci degrees making the same amount of money…College is a scam

[@tritmo]

What took you 13 years would've taken 4 if you went to college. Plus, even with debt, the offset of a significantly increased income for 9 years would massively outweigh what debt you took on. If you take advantage of networking and do community College your first 2 years it's well worth it especially if you get a degree in stem

[@edgeworksgames]

@tritmo you did not even read what he wrote

[@llpp202]

​@@tritmoexactly, CC used to be seen as beneath students. But it really is the only way to get an education and come out the pipeline close to debt free.

[@danialahmed6438]

My computer science degree was the reason I got a 6 figure job out of University

[@pmaitrasm]

@@edgeworksgames, I am pretty sure he read and his response bears testimony of that.

[@optomix3988]

Good video. I have been encouraging my son into studying a trade. He really enjoys working and making things.

[@ywainleonis2035]

Foreign Language degree here, been working in IT for over 20 years, never used my degree.

[@themonsterwithin4000]

How did you get into your first IT job without a degree?

[@Christopher6hf]

@@themonsterwithin4000 Employers in the tech industry know you don't need to have a degree to get hired. If you know your stuff / self taught then you can get the job. Just apply to multiple companies and interview the ones you can. It also helps a lot if you show your past projects in your resume.

[@ywainleonis2035]

@@themonsterwithin4000 @christopheralcala2458 has this correct. I self taught both hardware and OS from the age of 11 or 12. Learned how to perform hardware upgrades, write Batch scripts, etc. In non-IT jobs, I positioned myself as the IT contact. When I moved out of those industries, I had prior knowledge and even on-job experience. The first job was with a local system builder which had a hardware troubleshooting exam, I spent a couple of hours in their service center proving the knowledge I had learned, job offer next day. Since then I have moved up, working for a Managed Service Provider (MSP), certifying in A+ and maintaining manufacturer certs, including Lenovo, HP and Toshiba. Eventually moving to software as a Support Engineer. In this role I have learned Linux and PostgreSQL. A degree was never a consideration in any of my interviews, I gained every job based on merit and experience alone.

[@footie030303]

Same here. Majored in English Lit studying Shakespeare for 4years. Been working in investment banking sector for 10+ years.

[@sharinaross1865]

That is miles away from each other as far as subject matter. How did you land that. ​@@footie030303

[@pokemercenary6511]

I got STEM degrees. My first job absolutely required a degree. But now, it’s just a nice-to-have. However, education, proper education, is always worthwhile.

[@tracypolselli1464]

My daughter worked very hard to get her two degrees at UConn. She absolutely had to go out of state, adding a massive out of state fee every semester. She then got a free ride at Carnegie Mellon for her masters. What’s she doing now…….working for a vet because animals are suddenly her passion. Keep that in mind if you think us taxpayers should foot the bill for college educations.

[@llpp202]

I don't see a problem with shifting her career. So long as she pays for her own loans. Picking a career at 18 is drastically different than picking a career at 25. The brain doesn't fully develop until 25.

[@SonofSolomon]

Kids don’t understand finances and how it impacts their families.

[@drumyogi9281]

Sounds like you just let her dig a hole in the ground.

[@johnnyhoang4444]

Thanks for discussing this PBD. It’s a candid conversation parents must have with their teenagers.

[@elyelena1002]

if you are not a private contractor, never work in trades. there is no safety, they only focus on speed, you will get injured or die slowly from poisoning because you are not allowed to use personal protective equipment. Most trade professions are drunk people or from third world countries who are underpayed and have no idea what they are doing.

[@pmaitrasm]

Good point.

[@sharinaross1865]

Valid point.

[@slundgr]

A bone I have to pick with colleges versus trade schools is I don't think colleges do enough to help students prepare for the real world and get a position and have a career in their chosen field of study.

[@shannoncrawford7212]

My son got into a program in high school that our county offers. Went to high school at a community college. Took HS and college classes at the same time, graduate in five years with a HS diploma and AS, his degree is in Applied Engineering. All for no cost to the student. Some students opt to transfer to a university after to get a bachelor’s. My son entered the job market. Had 3 offers at manufacturing facilities for large companies. Got a job making right at $70k/yr (at 19 years old, with no debt) at a silicon carbide chip company. Started in the facilities maintenance department, now works in the controls department. My middle daughter is currently in the program, field of study is paralegal.

[@tvu24]

Which state is this? The state I live in don't offer such programs.

[@shannoncrawford7212]

@@tvu24 North Carolina. Johnston County (borders Wake County/Raleigh). Johnston Community College; Career Technical and Leadership Academy (CTLA).

[@douglasr74]

In the mid 2000s right out of high school my dad steered me to pursue a degree in computer science. After careful consideration I did, it was one of the best decisions I made. Now I have a good paying stable job in IT that AI can't replace. I can't thank him enough.

[@alexzandermanning6094]

Software engineer here. I’ve shipped software that has replaced legion of IT specialists 5 years ago. That was before AI.

[@jeffreyd.4878]

How did you gain the experience needed for entry level positions? I’m still stuck on that part, I have two internships and a degree yet I am still struggling to find full time employment in this field.

[@olliegarcia2306]

@@alexzandermanning6094no one cares about ur fake experience

[@alexzandermanning6094]

@@olliegarcia2306 oof someone was hurt when they found out they are replacable

[@douglasr74]

@@olliegarcia2306 I'm still living it, don't hate when other succeed.

[@GilmerJohn]

Once upon a time there was a so-called "Liberal Education." It was designed to round off the rough edges before getting a "professional" education (doctor, lawyer).

[@juicysmith38235]

MS accounting & BS finance. The recruiters never stop messaging me. I'm lucky my parents had me research my career field when picking a major. Marking 6 figures. Using AI daily, it's imperative. Now the concern is they're outsourcing white collar jobs, so idk what the future holds. The company I currently work for is outsourcing finance, accounting, HR, Marketing, etc. They're a global company. Lots of fortune 500 companies are wanting to automate and outsource. Praying for USA citizens 🙏🙏🙏

[@1guitar12]

Soon-to-be welcome to the club. Accounting has forever cowed to investors, shell game tactics in shadow ERP/CRM platforms accounts. AI will only hinder your opportunities with smarter algorithms and learning models. Next stop desperately needed: Human Resources. Both of these industries have had too much abusive power and fat. Time for the crows to roost.

[@YlverMoreno]

I am system engineer and I am working in Walmart like a service technician… even Walmart doesn’t accept my degree.

[@jayden4717]

Apply somewhere else. You're wasting your time if the job is not worth it.

[@frenchfan3368]

Most of what you learn in high school and university as an undergraduate is not used in the daily workforce. Think of education as a mental boot camp to prepare you for the mental stress of the workforce but not necessarily the daily tasks and challenges thereof. The speaker cited it well; you don't get a degree based on just what you are good at or what you are interested in. You get a degree so you can get a job that is in demand and that provides a desired product or service that people are willing to pay you for. Don't even get me started about the scam exams (College Board AP Exam, SAT and ACT among others) that prove nothing other than they can certainly make a lot of money.

[@steventapout17]

i studied business management🤦‍♂️😂😂 it did help me make a business plan and i would love to make a business one day and it has also helped me get to higher up positions.

[@AI-nm9el]

Thanks Mr David for the inspiration, I'm on a mission on reading all ur books, already read a few like drop out and get schooled and is very important to me to me as a young aspiring entrepreneur. Thanks

[@satan5344]

Speak the truth no matter how much it hurts, it will set you free 😈💜

[@j.arelylopez3053]

Love the way this guy explains it. It’s a balanced and logical and practical view.

[@getnanoed]

Very very very glad I chose TRADE SCHOOL. Graduated HS in 2000 and graduated trade school in 2001.

[@Tugela60]

"Using your degree" is not the point of university. What you learn there is how to teach yourself and cope with high expectations placed on you. That is why many people with tertiary educations can successfully transition seamlessly to many other things as well. If you are going there with the mindset that you are going to learn a special technical skill, you have already failed (even if you pass the course).

[@RichardDong68]

SPEAKING FACTS. Now convince my parents.

[@arandomartlover]

Too late for me and my two sons, but this was an eye-opening clip for the younger generation to do some research and homework before choosing their college majors. Thanks!

[@bryantaragon2922]

I'm a travel nurse making 140k a year. I have no debt and I only have my associate degree in nursing. some degrees are worth it. In my opinion college is only worth it you become a lawyer, engineer, or health. My sister Is a CRNA and she make 182K a year.

[@mattwong5403]

The majority of high paying jobs still require a degree of any major and a lot of jobs that do not require a degree will still prioritize applicants with degrees. In law enforcement, all special agents require a 4 year degree of any major for entry, and in municipal police departments, especially in New York or California, the baseline requirement is a HS diploma, but you won't be a competitive applicant without a degree or military experience.

[@thetruthwillsetyoufree891]

Both my sister and I went to school and got our master’s. We wanted an education, we paid for it not mom and dad. I value education and enjoy it that’s why I studied. Others rather have a simple life, but what I saw is that many of my friends who didn’t pursue a college degree or a 4 year degree 📜 ended up popping out kids from different men, getting hooked on drugs, and becoming the joke of their family . 10 years along the line they’re barely getting back on their feet since they didn’t get busy with anything educational .

[@satan5344]

Appreciate the talk, this is a real discussion that should be had, thank you 😈💜

[@peanutnjessy7864]

Some things I think need to change about college.. *Don't go unless you have a solid plan to repay student loans. I can't stress this one enough. *Stop sending kids straight out of highschool to college. These kids can't even legally purchase a beer yet, why are they not only allowed but encouraged to take out loans flirting with 6 figures? If they work for a few years many will find they don't even want college. *Stop asking for free college. It makes 0 sense for workers to pay for you to go to college. *Stop the toxic elitism - Okay plankton, you went to college. That doesn't mean you can go around treating everyone who didn't like they're beneath you. The stigma around blue collar workers needs to end. We're all human and we'd get more done being respectful to each other.

[@christians131]

A lot of companies and government organizations will help pay (or pay for all) of your college degree. I feel like more places need to push this to people who want a degree

[@davidcunico1673]

I did fine without a four year degree, I was an engineering technician. I worked hard, many hours while I was young, learned much about my trade. I got an AS deg toward the end of my career to qualify for a higher position, although my job requirements didnt change. I learned most, probably 95% of my abilities on the job!!

[@TheEnigmaProductions]

This is facts! I studied architecture and now I work as a security guard ☹️

[@boristeka9515]

Studied business management and thank God i did because it has become somehow useful for me today. I offer freelance accounting services to small businesses in my county and the degree helped me have more structure on how i do business. I could blend magic and logic.

[@nathanielcarreon5634]

Going to college is like buying a lottery ticket, some win most dont. No guarantees,

[@elmo1220]

I’m surprised accounting is that high on the list. I speak with many small business owners as part of my day-to-day and accounting firms are having a tough time finding candidates to fill seats. I got offered an accounting job last summer paying $105k base by a small firm, without ever applying for it.

[@brainites]

In 2018, a senior high school girl approached me and asked me if I knew schooling was a scam? I told her I knew more than 20 years prior but schooling is at times important for networking and connections. She said she didn't need networking and connections so she won't go to the university.

[@MichaelWilliamd]

Great discussion. When I talked to my daughter about college I did exactly what you suggested ten years ago. I told her I would pay for her education if she got a degree that lead to a career that provided financial support. She chose to be an RN. Loves her job and is financially secure.

[@jonathanvargas4049]

Yet every job I apply to “requires” a college degree. It’s infuriating

[@EverythingFilmmaking]

Bs

[@aveaguila7679]

They also require experience, so people need to do internships and practicums while earning a degree

[@arisu229]

I haven't seen it for bookkeeping. I actually think payroll is hard.

[@emzywillrich7243]

It's the new high school diploma.

[@badgerproductions24]

As someone who just got a college degree I never have felt more worthless in my life I really wish I never went to school because I wasted all my time and 6 years. Not to mention all the mental health problems that came with it. I wish I dropped out.

[@djl8710]

Have you looked into what people do with PhD's? The number of Doctors of medieval poetry in insane!

[@LysisZero]

In america the only degree I need is the one I print out that says "i identify as".

[@slundgr]

@@LysisZero Do you have multiple degrees to cover all your "I identify as" bases?

[@TonyMoze]

hahaha! and i'm sadden by how POMPOUS they think they are with that PhD

[@jeffmartinaz]

I have a PhD. I'm a college professor earning $125k per year.

[@TonyMoze]

@@jeffmartinaz - shall I guess you’ve been in academia longer than 3 years?

[@LuisGonzalez-yf9rn]

Fantastic info! I’ve got a DBA working in an industry that requires no college degree making $85k with over $230k in debt. Wish I had this knowledge when I was a teenager. Will definitely impart this wisdom and strategy with my daughters. Excellent video!

[@TK-ui2jg]

I’m a petroleum engineer by degree. And now I work in SaaS supply chain lol. Gotta take advantages of opportunities

[@JoshKippen1]

Im curious, how is there a supply chain for software?

[@TheZod00]

Hey man, how would you suggest someone with a physics degree to break into the supply chain industry?

[@AnotherDayattheDock]

corpate jargoon bsht job title@@JoshKippen1

[@diez5778]

@@JoshKippen1 Supply chain is the entire process of getting a product to a customer. Whether it is procurement, marketing, IT, etc. the product does not sell itself. I work in Supply Chain for a software company and my job is to act as a vendor for my company.

[@x7ameedo700]

I said the same thing 2 years ago, but you're just more popular and a way better talker. Thank you for pointing this out

[@mattolivier1835]

Unfortunately, most employers won't hire a person without having a degree. Doesn't matter if the degree is actually used or not. The question is, would YOU PBJ hire a person without a degree? I'll guess that even your HR department would block anyone wanting to work for you if they don't have a college degree. Ask your HR person if you don't believe me.

[@Chi-cd3ke]

Exactly, you need a degree just to get in the door

[@slundgr]

I have a B.S. and a master's degree. The best thing about those degrees is it opened doors to career opportunities that otherwise would not have been available.

[@romannavarro1178]

@@slundgrnah I have associate in business I regret it I ain’t going again I can’t find a job

[@slundgr]

@@romannavarro1178 I will list some tips I have given students I mentored at my alma mater. Let me know if you have questions. If you want a job, you should be able to get one, but YOU have to hustle. People hire people they can work with and who can be a benefit to their company. It's about what you can do for them, not the other way around. Getting a job is a job itself, and unfortunately they don't teach you how to do that in college. Look for a career, not a job. Go to your JUCO and ask what assistance they can provide to help you get a position in your career field. Talk to your professors. Go to your county's website and ask about job placement assistance. Apply for local, state and government jobs. Go knock on doors and ask to speak to hiring managers (not HR). Don't rely on a resume or online sites to get you a job. Go talk to people. Have a plan for how you are going to get a job doing something you like to do. You may have to start at a lower level and work your way up. I used to did ditches on a natural gas pipeline while going to college. Have you considered the military? There are many fields where you can use your degree and learn a skill that is transferable to the civilian world, and you should be able to go in as an E-3. That means more money to start, more privileges and better chances at promotion and pay raises. Have you written down your goals and what you want to achieve? Goals that are written down are 90% more likely to be achieved than ones that aren't. Go to the library and check out this book, or buy it. Buy the paperback so you can make notes, not the Kindle version. www.amazon.com/What-Color-Your-Parachute-Meaningful-ebook/dp/B09VGC32LN?ref_=ast_author_dp&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.467KXM6hhI4oXRGfULg2CaXmY1quyqzNPuO39-3eBlEy6pOLKUlBOMhmKsd5kBje90f0eSm5f9pE1bTNSPAffvYD8TWRjkxDxHRfBJt4xBNdHEhw39pHaBhsPEKWVix4--gw1BkvQSVXAo5o_KHZrkCielPXDFno6ns_YzL1XdEu5FaP83goCH6ljxZmDA_o8Oyqdnw_VTTZ0smOVPGt_LCiMrueQPXv7NIplQheH08.iIWQ3vyt4iXVyczYTpQJrgE2vfU1KeTcorVcrtuAlT0&dib_tag=AUTHOR

[@bryantaragon2922]

I'm a travel nurse making 140k a year. I have no debt and I only have my associate degree in nursing. some degrees are worth it. In my opinion college is only worth it you become a lawyer, engineer, or health.

[@Getloose360]

This content is much needed. Unless you’re specializing (law medicine/medical, accounting, education), all you need is a two year degree and a thirst to learn. Apprenticeship, certifications and the ability to grind will serve you well. Be a contrarian.

[@LysisZero]

I was in college in 2009 for computer science and information technology. Windows 7 was the new thing yet in the classes we were being trained on xp and vista. Every single thing we were being trained on was stuff no longer being used in the field from hardware to software. Best thing i did was drop out. The few people i know who actually got their degrees never found employment other than an assembly line at a factory or working restaurants.

[@Chi-cd3ke]

I got my CS degree in 2021, somehow got convinced to do a master's in software engineering. Graduate in May with no job offers and a professor telling me to check for jobs overseas 😂

[@clearviewproducts]

Create your own job offer by starting a company.

[@Chi-cd3ke]

@@clearviewproducts I've been contemplating this, but still need to to eat in the meantime. My degrees have gotten me interviews in unrelated fields. I'll probably take one until I figure out where the markets going.

[@brainites]

"If you don't practice on your own and follow what the lecturers teach you, you will end up having a degree but not knowing how to double-click." That is what a crème de la crème hands-on former student of the university told us. We already knew anyway. We were highly focused on real world learning. The lectures were just our pastime. We shared practical knowledge freely among ourselves and helped others to succeed academically. We were being investigated on how we were not "serious" yet excelled in the most difficult courses. We never went to the lecturers to explain stuff for us hence we were not "serious". In the last year the lecturers admitted our batch was the best they have seen in decades. All of us got work after the university. I couldn't go to the graduation because I was busy meeting deadlines. I never went for my degree to this day.

[@clearviewproducts]

@@Chi-cd3ke the same excuses everyone uses to avoid 'life'. If you act like everyone else, you can't expect to stick out from the crowd.

[@c84r]

I am a high school resource math teacher. I have a BA in Math and I am getting an MA in Special Education. You will never be wealthy being a teacher but there are lots of jobs in math, science and special education for teachers.

[@CreatingCreations]

I graduate this May with a bachelor’s of mechanical engineering, but in an attempt to graduate debt free, I started a business and college and it already makes more than what engineers make. Yeah… college is definitely not a good investment for people with any initiative!

[@goddaniel9478]

can we have a conversation? My major is biology but I’m thinking of starting a business while in college too

[@emzywillrich7243]

"without" any initiative but we knew what you meant.

[@jiphcryo8174]

My wife and I both have higher education (MA, DHSc), but I teach at a community college (in a career tech program). Most degrees are a waste. This video is VERY important to share. I just forwarded this to my high schooler. The pressure to get a degree is ridiculous and not evidence-based.

[@slundgr]

In my Trust, I allocated money for my grandchildren's education. They have to major in business, STEM, medicine or go to a trade school. They also have to demonstrate good citizenship and academic performance, or they don't get the money.

[@Emkeys-i1v]

No architecture? I applied for business, law, radiography (medical imaging) and architecture. Currently holding law school and architecture school (conditional) offers from schools in UK/HK. I am currently a final year high school senior.

[@slundgr]

@@Emkeys-i1v Architectural design would be a STEM field IMHO. Those are all good fields, and do you need a degree for medical imaging, or can you get that at a trade school? I just don't want to pay for four years of cultural studies or some crap where they can't get a job. Good luck to you. I'd enjoy hearing what you end up doing.

[@magiala5577]

No business. No business at all. Those degrees are suffering too.

[@Emkeys-i1v]

You do need to do bachelors of radiography- (for medical imaging) @@slundgr

[@thatoditsele9192]

I hope South Africans don't listen to this kind of messaging. As it is good advise for different contexts our lived experience is vastly different. Too many people here use the Steve jobs analogy like its applicable, where dropouts don't become millionaires but our cousins who constantly ask for 10 bucks and live on handouts. Go to school and get a degree; that is pretty much your best shot

[@SakhileMogale]

As a fellow South African, I agree with you. Going to university changed my life for the better. Yes, we have a high unemployment rate and it's terrible, but for our reality in SA, it's vastly different than the US and this side our best shot is still college for the majority of people. Some have a shot with tech skills and portfolios, etc., but our landscape is not like America.

[@thatoditsele9192]

@@SakhileMogale 100% went from Alex to Rondebosch through an honours. only 7% of degree holders are jobless , vs how many dropouts?

[@tico78742]

My wife was an RN and made good money but also had quite a bit of debt. I have a GED and have made more than her. Fortunately I learned a trade at work through mostly dumb luck. Who you know is sometimes more important than what you know. I think people skills are often over looked and can’t easily be taught too.

[@GeneCAu]

Can’t get a job for engineering, accounting, doctor, lawyer, etc, without a degree.

[@ishmaeldarjean2757]

Yes what he is doing is giving false hope because for what his doing doesn't require one. And he isn't a true professional. He is a person with an opinion. This isn't journalism. It is opinion based content.

[@MrAntonLucas]

It was a long time ago. I attended the University of Illinois 1971-1975, and tuition was $650 per semester. I have forgotten most of what I learned, and my career as a real estate appraiser didn't require college, but I am not sorry I went.

[@greggould4275]

Phenomenal video! I'd consider myself lucky in my degree and career path over the past 20+ years and how all has worked out, but, watching this student crisis etc all, I am SO glad I am where I am. I DID major in Fine Art, but, got into graphics at Sony, then post-production, while on the side, have shown and sold art internationally (even done public art projects in Manhattan Beach and in L.A.), and am celebrating a 19 year anniversary this month of a gallery co-founded (and sell art from in LA). Digital work is the bread and butter for sure, but I am a hustler, and make it all work - going after and landing art salees / art projects is kinda like a thrill - some people see building their 'body counts' in a similar way I guess.. I VERY am lucky, though. Even so, given AI, I am considering gettting certs for Cyber security, as I think that could be a fun thing to look into moving forward! Just another thing to learn about and get good at SHOULD I ever need it.

[@goddaniel9478]

I enjoyed reading this comment. I’m a STEM major but I enjoy how people are different and do different things in life

[@bigavel165]

My Computer Science Degree and Minor in Mathematics has set me up to always be in positions to land competitive top jobs

[@CPATuttle]

My accounting degree was a waste of my time. I only studied it because I was told there was always jobs. I’ve got none the last 10 years since graduation. Only tax prep with people that have no degree

[@rrrealqueen]

I was going to go to college for accounting. But i picked up a job with fidelity for an internship after high school. I always loved math and money. So i applied. And later on became a stock broker making 3k a week managing peoples retirements after one year of being trained 19 an hour at 18 yrs old. And i thought to myself this what i always wanted that easy? All because i got along with the manager. And i hear my friends struggling to get jobs after getting a BS from University. With 200k debt while im working and im only 20 years old.

[@Kjj1517]

Cap, there are a ton of accounting jobs out there. Your resume is probably bad or you don’t know how to interview. Accounting is one of the best degrees u can get

[@CPATuttle]

@@Kjj1517 You have no idea what you are talking about. You are not even an accountant. Keep reading your bs.

[@frank8348]

what you talking about, I graduated with accounting degree in 2018 and got a job in industry, theres tons of jobs out there for accountants. Now im a CPA and accounting manager. An accounting degree is guaranteed 6 figures after a couple of years.

[@CPATuttle]

@@frank8348 hahahaha

[@neogamest123logic2]

Originally Universities was an exercise in climbing the "social ladder". Which seems to mean a targeting of select few people that by virtue of their association will increase your social capital. - use your social connections you create to create value for yourself and those around you. So men show initiative to make or build connection with prominent figures that will benefit them in the future. Women went to scout potential successful husbands. It was necessary to join a frat or sorority to make connections and have occupational success.

[@goldfishi5776]

At least 10% will use that broad education to start a business. My degree in computer sciences required subjects that i didn't know i needed eg economics politics literature for writing development and research among many other things. I now own a business that has so far survived the wuflu and economic decline of consumers. So i see your point but we need an educated public if they vote it's just for the better. The cost is another problem.

[@aesop1451]

What's your business about?

[@ChinaConsultingTravelBlog]

I have my PhD in Psychology. People always want to major and get a bachelors in psychology. I tell them that unless you go all the way, you won't get a job with it.

[@marcelinojr.deperalta3735]

the money wasted was not the real problem. It was the time wasted that was the real problem

[@mmfirecracker5445]

2:55 best part of this video. I died right with Patrick. 😂🤣

[@MarshallNwachukwu]

Going to university is not about getting a job, this is more than that, education most time a place of networking..

[@cwwcww7465]

They really hooked you .....bad...

[@TheZod00]

@@cwwcww7465 You've never been to university so you wouldn't get it lol. As a physics major, I got to connect to top physicists in the country at the forefront of their field doing research, and networking with them. You also get tons of resources in university to help you get internships and connections. You pretty much get set up for life unless you're in medieval gender queer studies.

[@Passbu]

In 2012, I completed a hospital training program to become a nationally certified surgical technician, which was achieved without incurring any college debt. The compensation for this role includes a travel pay of $2500 for 36 hours per week. Typically, I engage in two contracts, each lasting 6 weeks. Reflecting on a quote from the movie "Good Will Hunting" where Matt Damon's character mentions how people spend significant amounts on information readily available for a fraction of the cost, I find myself valuing practical experience and certification over traditional academic paths. Having worked as a certified nursing assistant (CNA) and medical technician for several years, I have earned around $100k annually through agency placements and travel contracts. This journey has reinforced my belief that investing in college education might not always be the most financially prudent decision, especially when one can gain valuable skills and earn a substantial income without accruing significant debt after just one semester of attendance.

[@observer1943]

I have a PhD in Engineering, cant find a job and I regret having all my degrees

[@Hdhfhhdh]

Usually engineering is a good major unlike some of the liberal arts major . What exactly you majored in engineering?

[@Foxtrot-jr5qu]

Colleges and universities are promising a lot of things, but only a select few ever make it and benefit from the whole thing. The other thing is that the majority of people want some office job and to get paid good and because of that, there aren't many specialists in a lot of fields. I dropped off from university and very few of those who continued and graduated have actually started working in their fields.

[@kkhalifah1019]

Dunno... both my wife and I built our entire careers all the way up to senior management based on our undergraduate, graduate and postgraduate degrees.

[@olliegarcia2306]

Exactly!

[@GigaChad_169]

College is too expensive for the value it imparts. People who can't afford to pay for college in cash are better off learning a trade and getting a library card. The return on investment for college degrees (in general, there are always exceptions to the rule) isn't high enough to cover the costs of student loans. A lot of people are taking on a mortgage size student loan debt to end up no better off than having a high school diploma in the end, while not being able to afford a house because they're so deeply in debt. Student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy, you're stuck with them unless you pay them off.

[@Kingstyles05]

Once upon a time college degrees were important. Today they mean less because they turned college into a business.

[@mikemats2858]

I'm one of them! double majored in criminal law and sociology after graduating from university was offered jobs that paid peanuts. I was smart enough to always work and learn other trades ended up starting my own business and 14 years later own several businesses and doing alright! remember people college/ university is for profit corporations like Walmart, Home Depot and Lowes. I still encourage people to still go to college/ university for self-knowledge however do not expect huge earning after graduation.