I appreciate how in MTG, literal eldritch beings that threaten entire universes have a maximum of 15 power, while a single valet can have upwards of 2 billion power if he has enough friends. It's like the final battle in a JRPG.
@flamingwedge95592 жыл бұрын
The power of friendship!
@Kalenz12342 жыл бұрын
@@flamingwedge9559 And he isn't even white or green. The irony.
@Hotsingesl2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget marit lage
@rodrigonoffs13692 жыл бұрын
Friendship is emotional and thus tied to red
@julyankyleartist89612 жыл бұрын
Devil's make friends for life. They will want your soul though so you never leave.
@provostparkpass2 жыл бұрын
I'm grateful to your opponent for letting this play out.
@midas99352 жыл бұрын
I don't think they had a choice. So much happened that their client froze.
@CodyDockerty2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they were just curious too
@PeterKoebel2 жыл бұрын
Not all heroes wear capes. Unless the opponent was wearing a cape while playing I guess.
@buneter2 жыл бұрын
I would have played it out, just so I could screenshot my life total afterwards
@choppyhen2 жыл бұрын
Woah woah, wait, Chris, you play magic?!?!
@wormspeaker2 жыл бұрын
You have encountered the concept of integer bit sizes. A signed 32 bit integer (one that can have positive and negative numbers) maxes out at 2,147,483,647 in most programming environments. Luckily the MtGA developers protected it otherwise you might have encountered an integer overflow where the number flips around to -2,147,483,648 if you exceed the maximum size. Though your number would have been so large that who's to say where it would have stopped if it wrapped. If MtGA used 64 bit signed integers you could have gone to a power of up to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 which still wouldn't have been enough.
@Kalenz12342 жыл бұрын
Arena maxes out at 250 tokens so the most you get for Devilish Valet is 2^249 (since it starts at power=1) which is a number with 74 digits. That's way more than any game integer can handle. If you buff Devilish Valet's power through other means it can get even bigger.
@goncalooliveira47002 жыл бұрын
Arena devs never thought they would need a double to represent a creature's power
@sammelm53572 жыл бұрын
@@Kalenz1234 universal paperclips and big int would like to disagree.
@wormspeaker2 жыл бұрын
@@Kalenz1234 You can roll your own special integer objects. You need to code your own mathematical functions for them, but I created an integer object that could store and perform basic math (addition and subtraction with multiplication. I skimped out on division) on integers with up to 100 digits as small project back in college. It's generally not needed though.
@wormspeaker2 жыл бұрын
@@goncalooliveira4700 you can use doubles to represent an integer, but it still has a limit to the number of significant digits so its not perfect. And as soon as you start performing math on it then it starts losing precision quickly.
@Hanmacx2 жыл бұрын
Should add Mystic Reflection to make 200 Devilish Token with trample and haste that see each other enter the battlefield
@ChiefLibrarianAhriman2 жыл бұрын
^^^^^
@yoitsthattoastguy2 жыл бұрын
That may literally crash Arena. GENIUS
@hashassassin8302 жыл бұрын
Can we just try to crash the client? And watch the ricochets as the list gets shared. That would right every wrong MTGA has done imo
@mistysowards73652 жыл бұрын
Yessssss
@shayneweyker2 жыл бұрын
Talk about win more.
@slademmxii87592 жыл бұрын
when stuff like this happens, you dont scoop out of principal. you allow your opponent to combo like this out of sheer respect and abject horror. this was an amazing combo to witness and being killed by an ungodly amount of damage out of absolutely nowhere is just jaw droppingly amazing to see
@gozer332 жыл бұрын
Agreed, for something this ridiculous even losing is fun!
@SL-gz9gq2 жыл бұрын
principle
@rugbyguitargod Жыл бұрын
facts. I had something similar happen to me playing MTG awhile back. Granted, it was only like -37 damage total, but it was like a minute straight of resolving on their final turn. I obliged and let them finish at that point lol. I think I captured the last bit of it on video. I'll have to check and see. It was pretty hilarious.
@Tealmaker6 ай бұрын
Idk, im not of fan of being comboed to oblivion because my opponent drew the nuts and for the millionth time I’m either mana flooded or mana screwed 😂😅. Life’s too short as it is no point in watching me get obliterated when the next 10 games will be the exact same bs, or just the one ring plus sheoldred, so so much fun 🫠
@thegamedragondude2 жыл бұрын
128*2^256 is apparently on the magnitude of 10^79... For reference the estimated number of protons in the universe according to a Wikipedia search is around 10^79 or 10^80. Seth smacked them with every proton in the universe
@Kalenz12342 жыл бұрын
If you think logically about the power/toughness of creatures it's clear that a linear increase in the number corresponds to an exponential increase in actual power as little pets or normal soldiers have 1/1 but reality warping world ending monstrosities are at 10/10 and the latter are definitely more than 10 times as strong as the average dude. Cannonically this was more like a multiverse ending attack.
@dvlce_music2 жыл бұрын
@@Kalenz1234 yeah the only semi logical answer to the power and toughness in MTG is that it's a logarithmic scale, but it's still weird that there's 5 power humans and 2 power demons even (or maybe especially) with that system
@Kalenz12342 жыл бұрын
@@dvlce_music Not really a problem. It's a high fantasy genre. You have humans who are superhuman like the heroes of ancient mythology and small demons that are barely stronger than a normal human. I don't see an issue there.
@thegamedragondude2 жыл бұрын
@@Kalenz1234 How many planes did Seth destroy in their hubris?
@Kalenz12342 жыл бұрын
@@thegamedragondude All of them, including all the DnD ones since they are kinda connected now XD
@Somnifuge2 жыл бұрын
I bet by the end that opponent was staring at the book and really wishing they'd given themselves a "can't lose the game" counter on one of those angels...
@chriscunningham64012 жыл бұрын
-21 billion life: It's fine. Hardly a scratch.
@Sneaky_Pirate2 жыл бұрын
I have a pretty salty deck, that one werewolf with hexproof and that tree that makes all creatures all creature types, then smack that angel book token on the hexproof and sit back and watch the opponent not have removal or a board wipe.
@collinbeal Жыл бұрын
@@Sneaky_Pirate that's Avabruck Caretaker. Put some respecc on her name. Were-waifu. Her and Tovolar's Huntmaster are dating.
@theonesithtorulethemall10 ай бұрын
@@Sneaky_Pirateyou need to add the card that gives creatures and you protection from a selected card type, like creatures.....
@AmongUsAcademy2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was an emote or way to let your opponent know to “Please Don’t Scoop, I want to do this cool thing” Cause it would have been a shame if this video was ruined by someone scooping and we don’t see the full combo EDIT: what about an option where when the opponent concedes, you can “keep playing” and finish any combo and they just get replaced with an AI that auto yields everything
@tav57712 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't this emote exclusively be used for BM tho? Lol
@k8tinator12 жыл бұрын
@@tav5771 arent all emotes exclusively used to BM?
@dapperghastmeowregard2 жыл бұрын
@@tav5771 They don't have to listen though.
@playdead092 жыл бұрын
Maybe arena should implement pitty gold rewards for staying till the end (for the loser). “Everyone’s a winner!”
@jackpabich7632 жыл бұрын
Hey Bait! Didn't expect to see you here.
@B1GJOE2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the opponent didn't scoop. What a good sport!
@beeaggro25932 жыл бұрын
I think they wanted to see it too lmao
@metaphics2 жыл бұрын
I know it’s just arena trying to get through effects quickly, but my head canon is that devilish valet went super saiyan.
@elzero46182 жыл бұрын
And pierce the heavens and integer limit!
@Muhahahahaz11 ай бұрын
ITS OVER 9 BAJILLION! 😮
@SpektralJo2 жыл бұрын
It stops at 2147483647 beacuse that is the largest number that fits into a 32 bit integer variable that is used to contain the power of a creature.
@farning102 жыл бұрын
A signed 32 bit integer if anyone is wondering why 2^32 > 2147483647. Half representable numbers are negative.
@Rhodare2 жыл бұрын
It annoys me to no end that arena will burn your timer while triggers and the stack are still resolving
@fongvang75122 жыл бұрын
Yep, been asking them to find a fix for this because it makes playing combo decks impossible.
@profanemagic56712 жыл бұрын
It annyoes me to no end that ~250 permanents is the most you can have on arena. That's not how magic works.
@snekula53532 жыл бұрын
I lost a game to this while my Scoot Swarm triggers were still resolving. Even during my opponent's turn it was still going!
@dillydragonthetroll41192 жыл бұрын
@@profanemagic5671 that only happened because of scute swarm, so blame scute swarm
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena2 жыл бұрын
@@profanemagic5671 what can you expect when programming a computer game?
@DctrJimbo2 жыл бұрын
Mad props to the opponent for sticking around to watch the show
@markusbetts2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if his OP had some first strike 3/3 or something lol
@MTGGoldfish2 жыл бұрын
Pls no
@patrickraynor8083 Жыл бұрын
Or inquisitor snare lol
@MichaelSarchet2 жыл бұрын
You hit the limit on a 32 bit integer that is signed (so the range is 2^(-31) to 2^(31)) at least we see that MTGA doesn't overflow and you ended up with negative damage
@MichaelSarchet2 жыл бұрын
Based on what was on board. 1.3803493e+72 is the actual amount of damage you could have done (256 * 2^235)
@jackfarnsworth7912 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelSarchet Getting close to more than the number of atoms in the universe (about 10^80) that's so crazy
@peterpeterson48002 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelSarchet Isn't it 128 * 2^235? Look at 3:28. The Develish Valet has 128 power, the stack is empty and 235 tokens are entering the battlefield. 7.06... × 10^72
@DanmanJR2 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine this being in a tournament and a judge tells the opponent that he can surrender and this Chad of an opponent would say "Nah, I wanna see where this is going" What a legend for sticking through it.
@williambarnes50232 жыл бұрын
Or he shows the judge the lightning bolt in his hand.
@meshuggahshirt4 ай бұрын
@@williambarnes5023Deflecting Palm
@CentaurionArcher2 жыл бұрын
Total power would actually be 7.0673883e+72 I believe (128 * 2^235). So a little bit larger that what the title suggests
@funkydiscogod2 жыл бұрын
Yes, his math is obviously wrong. There's no way he could have got a number that ends in a 9 by doubling any number.
@Earthboundmike2 жыл бұрын
I need to learn how to read numbers that get that big. Well, want.
@ScorpioneOrzion2 жыл бұрын
It would been 1.4821387422376473e+79, if arena allowed you to get all the 256 creatures
@CentaurionArcher2 жыл бұрын
@@ScorpioneOrzion True! But if there were unlimited creatures, the first valet could have been doubled more before sacrificing it~
@ScorpioneOrzion2 жыл бұрын
@@CentaurionArcher true
@DiscomasterZero2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of that disappointing moment in Magic Duels when my 8192/8192 Electrostatic Pummeler doubled it's P/T, only to become a 9999/9999.
@Talmax0092 жыл бұрын
The “most” damage that I have “dealt” was done by doubling Vorinclex’s power so many times that the stack overflowed to 0. And 0 damage was dealt.
@CMOJoker2 жыл бұрын
So now we know MTGA uses 32bit integers.
@t3st12212 жыл бұрын
Even with 64bit integers it would have not been enough, a 256bit integer would have been needed here and that does not usually exist (there are BigInt libraries but at that point a number is mostly treated like an array to be infinitely extensible while avoiding rounding like with floating point numbers)
@TripsAhoy2 жыл бұрын
I love how those triggers from the valet was like a huge party going on lol.
@VenkmanPhD2 жыл бұрын
can you imagine the disappointment if the opponent was like "bolt the x/3 demon?"
@peterpeterson48002 жыл бұрын
Better yet, let him sit through all these triggers on arena and declare attackers and then return the creature to hand or destroy it or something.
@VenkmanPhD2 жыл бұрын
@@peterpeterson4800 not trying to be overly critical but that doesn't seem much different than what I said already. I mean would have been REALLY worse if he did a Grab The Reins entwined....
@peterpeterson48002 жыл бұрын
@@VenkmanPhD That would be perfect, but that card isn't in standard.
@VenkmanPhD2 жыл бұрын
@@peterpeterson4800 I know...I was just naming the theoretical worst card to play against him in that moment
@DuckDoolittle2 жыл бұрын
Opponent: Cast Deflecting Palm for lethal? Me: ...
@AyoJayArr2 жыл бұрын
This was pure joy to watch. Seth's reaction when a deck does it's thing is so damn genuine and awesome! Makes me hype myself
@Obelion_2 жыл бұрын
cool that they fixed the overflowing of numbers
@MindLaboratory2 жыл бұрын
Would be even funnier if this caused an overflow to -2^31 and gave opponent a billion life.
@monkey54022 жыл бұрын
Your calculated number appears to be the number that should be multiplied by the original Power of the creature: 2^(235) This is the multiplier for the 128 that the Valet starts at. Total power should be = 7,067,388,259,113,537,318,333,190,002,971,674,063,309,935,587,502,475,832,486,424,805,170,479,104 Wacky!
@demonhitman2 жыл бұрын
So about 7 Trevigintiilion LOL
@monkey54022 жыл бұрын
@@demonhitman Might be 7 Billion-Vigintillion, 72 zeros lol
@Helldogg122 жыл бұрын
Now imaging it getting clapped by a bolt
@deankrahling60602 жыл бұрын
too bad there would still be 128 1/1's to deal with
@Helldogg122 жыл бұрын
@@deankrahling6060 oh its definitely probably still game, but it would be funny. Or a deflecting Palm if it was legal
@MTGGoldfish2 жыл бұрын
plz no
@Helldogg122 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish Seth, would love to see some modern gameplay of a 5 color general ferrous build with omnath and bring to light. I have a list built on Moxfield if you would be interested
@Oncus22 жыл бұрын
I don't play MTG but I have learned that MTG is a game of patience..of waiting your opponent ending his turn after gazzilion combos.
@Srcsqwrn2 жыл бұрын
I haven't played MTG in years. But man, you have such an iconic, fun, entertaining voice that watching your videos is always a treat. It's cool seeing you do a face cam now!
@nilsbossiusklintenberg36232 жыл бұрын
Haha this was a fantastic watch! I don’t know exactly how many zeroes you got to in the end. A 1 followed by 61 zeroes is called a Novemdecillion. Might have been close to that.
@lucidlullaby8942 жыл бұрын
There’s a word for everything huh
@ScorpioneOrzion2 жыл бұрын
Its a lot bigger than that
@gaminggeckos43882 жыл бұрын
It's approximately 15 quinvigintillion. That's 5 more commas than a novemdecillion.
@weirddan4552 жыл бұрын
@@gaminggeckos4388 It sounds like you're just making words up at this point.
@gaminggeckos43882 жыл бұрын
@@weirddan455 Seriously, it's fourteen quinvigintillion eight hundred twenty-one quattuorvigintillion three hundred eighty-seven trevigintillion four hundred twenty-two duovigintillion three hundred seventy-six unvigintillion four hundred seventy-three vigintillion fourteen novemdecillion two hundred seventeen octodecillion eighty-six septendecillion eighty-one sexdecillion one hundred twelve quindecillion fifty-two quattuordecillion two hundred five tredecillion two hundred eighteen duodecillion five hundred fifty-eight undecillion thirty-seven decillion two hundred one nonillion nine hundred ninety-two octillion one hundred ninety-seven septillion fifty sextillion five hundred seventy quintillion seven hundred fifty-three quadrillion twelve trillion eight hundred eighty billion five hundred ninety-three million nine hundred eleven thousand eight hundred eight. _DONE_ I didn't actually know about most of those words myself. I just did the calculation of 128*(2^256), and then put that number into a number-to-word converter.
@OGNoNameNobody2 жыл бұрын
I was interested in the *Vallet* as soon as the previous weeks deck went up. The design I tested out today can hit 2048 consistently. Kudos to Seth for going Even Further Beyond!!
@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet2 жыл бұрын
That opponent was legendary. Congratulations!
@packer79152 жыл бұрын
Whenever I play a game where my opponent is doing something amazing, I will let it play out because I want to see it just as much as they do
@goodshipzion2 жыл бұрын
Please give us more content like this. You made my day!
@MTGGoldfish2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@davidrafferty24912 жыл бұрын
That "Timeout used" going by as the triggers resolve was hilarious
@dangrothe79962 жыл бұрын
I'm having a *ton* of fun with a Valet/Jinnie Fae/Jetmir/Rabble Rousing deck. I thought it was cool that I got my Valet over 2,000 in one game, but I clearly have room to grow!
@grinreaperoftrolls75282 жыл бұрын
I’m glad they fixed integer overflow 😆🤣😂 I was getting salty when my creatures’ power would reset to zero 😆🤣😂
@luker.69679 ай бұрын
As I’m sure others have said, you hit the 32 bit limit. Congrats
@lanterns_glow2 жыл бұрын
You dealt so much damage we don't have a math term for it, the rough equivalent of basically causing an actual supernova right in someone's face.
@ReyosBlackwood Жыл бұрын
4:00 Looks like the power limit for a creature is 2³¹-1 That makes sense because that's the highest possible value for a signed 32 bit integer.
@zorbratron2 жыл бұрын
I have managed this once with a green creature that had an ability where you pay 4 mana to double the amount of tokens on it. I ended up in the minus as well.
@DavidJohnson-tv1ey2 жыл бұрын
That opponent passed the vibe check
@cowjuicethepallytank2 жыл бұрын
So Devilish Valet tops out at 2147483648 (2^31) because the value for stats is a 32 bit signed integer. The first bit is a 1 or 0 (1 means negative) and then you have 31 other bits. It seems that they have edge case guarding to prevent you from overflowing back into the negatives (which I bet they never thought would actually come into play lol).
@mrsnufflegums2 жыл бұрын
I love this, just note that arena probably is limited by the stack overflow thing, but instead of just ticking up to the largest negative value it just stopped
@mikemoyer81622 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you included the exact number in the title.
@Pretermiter2 жыл бұрын
I may be a bit late to the party, but since I do not see it in the comments: The value you see is the maximum value that can be stored in a signed 32-bit integer. Kudos to the devs for actually making sure the integer doesn't overflow but instead stays set. ^^
@LithmusEarth2 жыл бұрын
This is what Saffron Olive Lives For! 2:27 Using Pyre of Heroes ability instead of doing the Book of Exalted Deed's ability, is where they lost the game. 3:18 Opponent compliments Seth. A signed 32 bit integer, nice.
@FilmscoreMetaler Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: If you wanted to represent the damage with 12 mm standard-sized w6 dices as counters, you'd have to build a cube made of dices with a length of 168,08 light years. That cube would then also contain thousands of "nearby" star systems and make up for approximately one permille of our milky way galaxy. Either this or you can use a shortcut.
@TheHeartlessAlchemist2 жыл бұрын
KZbin randomly recommended me this video even though I haven't watched any MTG content in months. Good job YT, it DID enjoy it. BTW, it's probably because I have been watching a lot of videos about yu-gi-oh.
@Khasmordan2 жыл бұрын
Using an exponent Calculator: 128 power doubled 235 times (as per the frame when paused, should have been 256 but Arena would have already had a problem with this) = 1564382205298691725388488404021328945615347938733150494072866127000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
@t3st12212 жыл бұрын
Actually you can see that your calculator made some rounding and your result is not exactly correct. If your result ends with a 0, then it's a multiple of 5 (because it's 10x something and 10 is 2x5 so it's 2x5xSomething), but the result has to be a power of 2 so it cannot be a multiple of 5.
@drannelthegoblin63892 жыл бұрын
The number is still disgustingly large
@theprogressivecynic24072 жыл бұрын
The Valet combo is my backup wincon in my Jinne Fay + Stimulus Package Naya flood deck. It rarely needs the Valet, but that guy can hit HARD, as you have proven. Also, FYI, if you want to jank it up even farther, add in Mystic Reflection to make each of those 250 tokens be a copy of Valet, each of which triggers each others' doubling effect.
@12Fakeaccount2 жыл бұрын
To give you a word: Novemdecillion. Imagine a Trillion Trillion Trillion Million.That's a Novemdecillion. About 10^60.
@spegynmerbles39932 жыл бұрын
The fact that these kind of combos keep popping up in standard brings me so much joy
@kbalinthun2 жыл бұрын
The Devilish Valet's power was 128 (2^7) when you played Tend the Pests, which made 235 tokens. So after 235 triggers the Devilish Valest's power become 2^242 = 7,067,388,259,113,537,318,333,190,002,971,674,063,309,935,587,502,475,832,486,424,805,170,479,104 (73 digits) or 7 trevigintillion 67 duovigintillion 388 unvigintillion 259 vigintillion 113 novemdecillion 537 octodecillion 318 septendecillion 333 sexdecillion 190 quindecillion 2 quattuordecillion 971 tredecillion 674 duodecillion 63 undecillion 309 decillion 935 nonillion 587 octillion 502 septillion 475 sextillion 832 quintillion 486 quadrillion 424 trillion 805 billion 170 million 479 thousand 104
@kbalinthun2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: If it wasn't for the limitations of the game, after sacrificing the remaining 6 treasures for 6 tokens, the two Devilish Valets powers would have been 2^14 (=16384) and 2^13 (=8192). With Tend the Pests that's 16384 tokens and the remaining Devilish Valet's power would have become 2^16397 which is a 4936 digit number. The number: 9746280409966442619582540403736634415214138876694611865376152135542877046214522363121570574111637830984625663875803621448889691187680767396040906328814100529814500428726312120501397517267201612562041616052077656858924216031895427356379389688591271022395755220212827118840109918726030612037631064392551276692445719456323837659739854906689868705029121658203056733800594473689641102313640843965624694831356259791849172597996075906094615030528824586562442441893423375796566160662244600095650251852757346563898474626321733019974308151815530372207410372449264550093796757275048939022920279641316906642156478064842662007552548030783442494860495786950069265515105577744726823514890872180225181218765943970901013993376335795062694535670984504732342188310663100355555206996089632131776330933521590961982257027575330022012995592101282045090116441507046230075475081681494242000924196466322044531491399938781980011839206264336424822138921470214362121830793561291228774416883658208716698614643758100313924181012339412489871753495876676296813653245935949430035762276774748308998247003945093359540624848631470554331056254221770558829763607507796111504932361731998416969271306312310535687079478345283831053061037638063830265486592632319414533284661483070417498085856900140533300654839335688772098738564009809402774029672795820483678470594973763091594173209508248925368707410915930117742716498404126335303950594217439381229520450655814268912522021149911806865155803333605871575678806225360037191547699708322336907957431250649388159544028895946114526027422711087453306909586381121766979256746758658140624515496675984266404675546604893197833581590641218390773599091969354581710708299825750072582872027104256410158339352598620550464024562462659885455966718461627672777396761290873621853390111729056760092477537954112155371091161528981458327221851215901718694758212617380270482433879638344901548406221700103934056927848401075170963079863459726581930351058787854054670789174604936651620077192478322498835112998678555023905465483862519651434674338351828313124019227618996845330862761106869839869572698506242422996344311398585560492031586965161606890150687137152132318276166025314090054750845546769006500676864617999032494615037002394750574766123939495145438551761927571055967249941372397616451907487472821190191262708601971298081118217148130321255599514266448307300053425279302062923601062459761467198938637041046816594976054482159289289009547663010874652403175993675902181614987733339786377540146579207297117808014136260625915837754301128981603955360330759112680514392173077276874452522830566249618558210020442967598839831029575434478902133503817326998704124233490300779993387935369250623195084305286000065930835056079223501306048803381121319351314304403678050393496486082819110219991571750149820318297908977705952348666842643871846470992138782423043413571337581971236541290288917491476349105058125514246061340278554164792094558734073068636715153653117254796716722949070090652211616428415814405081719515415736333439708761964554274712671683169954544934369483914933706887299638117580026449312242856648202920488879758543819769170345726386222588234015501930371809882346650227264747660552491109419049860747418476654400210446745633905456872514681782858117732896577352786873839311293653915331727599047235946032518650415949519249973020653135392557204749616709417322027477392481913742138411124808100421042503777715437328802863033053593627025538457421905403693946685736091488420761226193068966574062952511925506837064527192097332178480377627776417494147050741835577782318470975202062387342043290766740394491065646341311890938023862561538706630642295586092751922300275787219424064428099864172545503234698104829475750433509700900528697650230082663866750220367090384911868868782855768690104669166750417027993153810755150540489111661847736664877046296751275453546559169921170595002726044502208356230439148056238390568230740897156575703442808057381080246482495760034245278477680564218657263812658742863467246814395328050759715535789929298601134933620331551276623278228399863188291719259523872585540200202700208113409463067921176531282633583480240192877859328687176280163770054179120956365747263610341693623548803111958608848777467116994051286578066792509213530082187383618539045121064502393441213060700489424265184658986832903304970711961676587831153016538333564747162537545733997888381741836368277141013262965052918968214011485018104011682676095859377813862786570934514944192340888687294107032259617360735521069359255776474349029129325453819491712704963122683588346011939878907282117322301775908085065862973626458689630768226823383155806349207235870035630459679743583976689942013632000167655819675036942479678360065794395021616163544240832742605181715078123064242704224630284563054229118880945928147175120766096002940551209650293372771049352560815383097224497732036759716611250576393096516265331838762864549062476528174808549689718208244694574304955982047565168345635356672
@nym0539 ай бұрын
I love how the opponent just stayed to enjoy the show 😄
@jeffro78562 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was crazy when I hit the max for one creature as well. Was not expecting 2 billion+ when I swung!
@ronnyweinreich94252 жыл бұрын
ha, I knew that number in the description must be wrong. 😜 I've maxed the power on the Arena Client out with Hydra's Growth back when it was in standard and came to the same number. 😅
@riftstrider5433 Жыл бұрын
When you double the power so much that you reach the 32 bot integer limit
@Earthboundmike2 жыл бұрын
Fyi, to the the power of THIRTY is good enough for 137438953472 damage. Actually having done the math, I can tell you that the game failed to add anything after 24. 2 to the power of 24 x 128 is 2147483648 which is one more than your monster has attack. Google calculator turns the math into something I don't recognize if I go over the power or 32 on this.
@spicymato2 жыл бұрын
128 is already 2^7, so your ~2 billion number is already 2^31. The number on the screen is actually (2^31)-1, which is the maximum value a signed 32-bit integer can take: adding one more would overflow it into -(2^32). Your ~137 billion number is 2^37.
@derekfranz7660 Жыл бұрын
Hilarious combo, but the real winner is your opponent letting you play it out and not scooping.
@dsadams172 жыл бұрын
Opponent: "....Aaaand I cast Abrade."
@ryangainey94 Жыл бұрын
2^64 is the legendary doubler in the story about grains of rice on a chessboard. That Valet had 128 power before tend the pests which would be 2^7, after which, 235 tokens were produced. The total number is 2^242, or 2 to the 242nd power... 7.0673883e+72 is how it shows up in Google calculator, but writing it out by hand is in fact an insane quantity.
@Xanaphia02 жыл бұрын
I am running a similar deck, with not quite the same explosive power, but same idea. My main combo pieces are Devilish Valet and Scute Swarm, and trying to trigger as many landfall procs as possible, to grow Devilish Valet to huge proportions. As a back up, I also run Phylath, which tends to bring out 5-6 tokens when he ETBs, which is usually enough to get my Devil to 100+.
@lovedead5642 жыл бұрын
ayeee you finally built my deck :)
@J_o_B_is_back2 жыл бұрын
Uh, I've been doing that with Birgi and Grinning Ignus for the last week 😅
@Tosia-aisoT2 жыл бұрын
Devilish valet has All that power and still gets trampled over by colossal dreadmaw. Still the most overpowered card every printed
@jacky_cola Жыл бұрын
Nice! I did it with Targ Nar, Demon-Fang Gnoll and infinite mana untap combos. His doubling costs 4 but that doesnt matter and escalates quicky
@shnorkeythefourth45722 жыл бұрын
Now if only he had a Gideon with a “no lose counter” and you just purposefully not attack it just to see if they can get back to above 0 health before running out of cards
@Shenanigans3032 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video title which only displays as a long string of numbers on my phone
@person31762 жыл бұрын
now this is magic as intended
@joshuazhang44962 жыл бұрын
That Valet doubled his one grain of rice on each square of the chess board instead of taking 1000 for each square.
@VanTheDestroyerer2 жыл бұрын
lol! I achieved a similar result with Ashaya, Soul of the Wild, Moraug, Fury of Akoum, 4x Unnatural Growth, and a WHOOOOLE lotta landfall triggers. XD
@rhettorical2 жыл бұрын
The good old "Hypercancer" deck that takes advantage of Azor's Gateway and Primal Amulet with Sanguine Sacrament to generate infinite life and therefore infinite mana, has the potential to pop March of the Multitudes so many times that at one point it would literally break the game due to integer overflow. It seems they've fixed that since then, but toss in a Devilish Valet and you have another deck capable of hitting the max power the game allows. Incidentally, if they'd coded power as the biggest data type they could (which they don't need to because an int is clearly big enough), and there wasn't a 250 creature limit, you could potentially get Devilish Valet's power to an incomprehensibly large value. Not infinity, but it might as well be. Include Ajani's Welcome, Social Climber, and Dawn of Hope, and cast March for 500 (which is completely reasonable), and that's 2500 items on the stack. Primal Wellspring to double or triple it for 5k or 7.5k items. Not to mention Devilish Valet's power becomes 2 to the power of 1500. Granted, last time I had an opponent who actually let me March for 500, the game crashed, but it's still theoretically possible.
@seanleroy52632 жыл бұрын
Richard can probably explain the programming aspect of the arena max numbers to you but someone on channel fireball I believe mentioned the other week that someone was going to do something like this and you were the first person I thought of.
@Srcsqwrn2 жыл бұрын
That was so funny! I love your reaction, you're just so happy!
@targetdreamer2572 жыл бұрын
I gotta admit the opponent is the MVP for not scooping.
@A_Swier72 жыл бұрын
I love how epic this was and Arena said no math is too hard
@goelandz8782 жыл бұрын
No Julians90 has been harmed during in the making of this video
@necrosinfinum3967 Жыл бұрын
i just noticed a spot in the title where there is four digits in between commas and cant unsee it now
@jacquesdespadas2 жыл бұрын
As a dedicated Scute Swarm/Soul Sisters player, I can appreciate the hell out of this! Well done. 🙌
@dyne3132 жыл бұрын
I've done this before. It usually involved Scute Swarm.
@iceburnhex2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone else noted this yet... but the commas in the number you gave us really messes with me. Some are 4 spaced, some are 3 lol. But sweet match!
@ignacioperez54792 жыл бұрын
im surprised the number didnt reset. in hearthstone if you over a number, you just go to negative
@jiujiu2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a Squirrel deck combo my friend used to play only the interaction was infinite. He usually settled on 1 million squirrels to eat me with. I can’t remember the combo but it used Squirrels Nest card and some tapping untapping mechanic that could be done as many times as you wanted to produce 1/1 squirrel tokens.
@blackknightjack38502 жыл бұрын
About 2 billion is the upper limit of an integer variable, so it makes sense that it can't go higher than that.
@PancakeBreakfast2 жыл бұрын
Brings me back to Zendikar Rising where Scute Swarm armies literally forced ties because there were too many creatures
@reyntime87355 ай бұрын
Seth casually dealing 7 Tresvigintillion damage in one hit
@archangeljmj60082 жыл бұрын
In the words of Kyle from south park: "Holy shit dude"
@snackplaylove2 жыл бұрын
If you’d eaten all the treasures before tend the pests you’d have gotten 6 more creatures too!
@mikko-matiaskallio6018 Жыл бұрын
Novemdecillion is a new word I learned today
@kahlzun2 жыл бұрын
gonna need some flextape son, because THATS A LOTTA DAMAGE
@hiimemily2 жыл бұрын
Devilish Valet + Army of the Damned (including flashback) + Fungal Sprouting = 2^(2^26) damage. That's over 20,000,000 digits. It's the highest non-infinite amount of damage possible from just three cards.
@enigmaticiconoclast82352 жыл бұрын
My man hit the literal highest number you can get with signed binary integers lol
@psachickennugget86172 жыл бұрын
I was playing some commander and had a couple snake tokens, an Adrix and Nev Twincasters and 2 non-legendary token copies of it, and 3 second harvest spells on the stack. That ended up creating roughly 4718601 x 2^9437203 snake tokens and 9437202 x 2^9437203 Twincasters. This is the largest amount of things I’ve ever created with something that isn’t an infinite combo, and is a number that is unfathomably large. Keep in mind this is with the minimum amount of trying to make them and it happened by accident. With the same deck I could easily create a number so unbelievably large on top of that that it scares me how many snakes could have been created. That’d be enough snakes to probably fill at least a galaxy.
@comparatorclock2 жыл бұрын
Devilish Valet: I deal a bajillion damage! You do not stand a chance! Angel of Suffering, knowing about Gaea's Blessing: Yeah, and?
@eagan_19022 жыл бұрын
Ah behold the integer limit Everyones favorite limit
@Hombre9442 жыл бұрын
The most damage I've done in a single attack by a single creature was 2^472256. Heroes' Bane, buffed by Selvala Heart of the Wilds, Quirion Ranger, and Wirewood Symbiote. Take a moment to think how exponents work. Note that other commenters here have discussed the massive difference between 2^32 and 2^64....
@thetambo2 жыл бұрын
Big shoutout to Julian90 haha I'm sure he was as interested as we were but thanks dude!
@Fusspilzsammler12 жыл бұрын
Player 2: does it have trample? Player 1: uhm nope. Player 2: I‘m blocking with my 1/1 Citizen!
@realbigsquid2 жыл бұрын
We need a petition to make exponential notation a thing in arena.
@mladjo25052 жыл бұрын
For max damage: 1 x Daemogoth Titan 4 x Devilish Valet 4 x Tend the Pests 1 x Mystic Reflection 1 x Kaya, Geist Hunter +/- Some spell copying shenanigans. The sequence would be a Kaya, a Titan and 4 Valets on the battlefield, Mystic Reflection target one Valet, -2 Kaya, Tend the Pests targeting Titan, then cast (and copy) Tend the pests on largest Valets respectfully until you end up with an absurd amount of X/3 with trample where X is somewhere in the range of more than the number of atoms in the universe, maybe even that to the power of 4 or more. !!! P.S. I know it's a long shot to set this up perfectly but just commenting for max possible damage.
@dapperghastmeowregard2 жыл бұрын
4 Fiery Emancipation, 4 Furnace of Rath, 4 Copy Enchantment, let yiur opponent hit you with this and Deflecting Palm it :P