58 Volt Cordless ECHO PAS Review (Pro Attachment Series | STIHL Kombi System)

Following up on the review of ECHO's 58-volt cordless hedge trimmer is this detailed look at the benefits and flaws of their cordless PAS or Pro Attachment Series system.
Being able to work extra hours in the morning or evening and not disturb those who may otherwise take issue with you working is a big advantage to electric tools, and has been the biggest advantage for my business. Secondary benefits like a lack of gasoline or oil costs, no messes, fumes, or engines to overheat or pull start are welcome additions!
That being said, several ergonomic issues prevent me from being able to wholeheartedly recommend the 58V PAS as a MUST buy, and instead I consider it an able partner to supplement your existing gasoline PAS power head, or a lower use tool for homeowners.
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ECHO Pro-Torque Trimmer Attachment
ECHO Straight-Shaft Edger Attachment
ECHO Articulating Hedge Trimmer Attachment
ECHO 3 Foot Extension Attachment
Poulan Pro Pole Saw Attachment
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[@layneliu246]

Love it, thanks. Mine suddenly stopped working and it is relatively new. Then I see your video says the connector inside might be lose. I opened it up an not obviously disconnected, I took it apart and reconnected anyway. Reassembled, volla, back to life again! Thanks a million ~

[@davidr3246]

Great job! This is the first review video I’ve watched (on any topic) that really provides concrete, substantiated and well researched information. Thank you!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I appreciate the kind words, thank you!

[@louiebarrett5280]

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[@kieranjimmy4844]

@Louie Barrett Flixportal :D

[@louiebarrett5280]

@Kieran Jimmy thank you, I signed up and it seems like a nice service =) I really appreciate it!

[@kieranjimmy4844]

@Louie Barrett Glad I could help =)

[@DIYDad1]

Thanks for your honest feedback on this power head, it makes me glad that I stayed the traditional route and stayed with the srm225 instead. A lot of people are pushing electric cordless ope these days, and I get the benefits, especially for homeowners. But I think from a longevity standpoint, replacing those batteries in a few years, or electronics failing, the cost of gas is a fair trade off to me. My last trimmer I bought in 2002 and it still runs. Granted, I only use it about a half hour a week but I fully expect my new echo srm225 to last just as long since I follow good maintenance.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You make some excellent points. If you are interested in this topic, stick around. I just spend $3,000 on all the new EGO commercial battery stuff to review and test!

[@DIYDad1]

@@CopperCreekCuts I saw you post the preview a few days ago I'm definitely going to check it out! I've heard great things about the ego stuff, but wow does it come at a premium even looking at the stihl kombi type stuff!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

@@DIYDad1 You aren't kidding. It is $$$. Hopefully worth it!

[@GregsMowing]

so it's half ready, husky have the best cordless stuff in my opinion, good honest review

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Well, to be fair this is, like, a 3.5 year old design :) Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@alantippett7602]

Good video and a very fair report. I have the gas powered PAS and I find it very good, so I was very interested to see this. In the future, with further development I expect this to be a very good power head for those of us that will be using it for longer periods of time. No doubt for someone who might be using it for short periods of time it's a great tool.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Well said! I appreciate you watching and the feedback, that means a lot to me!

[@lolosolodolo1]

Received this version instead of the gas model I ordered. With your review im definitely taking it back.

[@Orefamilylawncare]

Very good review. I keep this unit in the back of my truck with a string trimmer, hedge trimmer, and blower attachment for the on the spot kind of calls. No issues here obviously it's not my main go to piece of equipment. I have the echo and Stihl gas powered Combi units so I'm well versed with them. You hit the best point on the echo trigger not being the most comfortable.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I appreciate the feedback, glad to know I wasn't the only one!

[@yankees6970]

Just picked it up on CLEARANCE at Home Depot for $119! :) A bargain for a brushless, powerful trimmer like this. Don’t use it enough where I will have the hand issues. Thanks for the review!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Very nice find!

[@donalddicus8828]

Nice detailed review. I felt like you were being fair worth your trouble points. Great job Brad

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you Mr. Dicus, I appreciate the feedback! :)

[@Strangerer69]

Same here. I only use as a supplement to my Stihl trimmer. I also only use it with the trimming and hedging attachments. Even then, the Echo 58v still loses power every once in awhile. No rhyme or reason when it shuts off or when it decides to come back on. Also, mine won’t run on the fully charged smaller 2Ah battery. It only works on the larger 4Ah battery.

[@popeslawnservice5227]

Great review! Very well explained, you definitely did your homework!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you! :)

[@JMiltonLIVE_Concert_Videos]

I've had mine for some five (5) years now and I Love mine! Recently cracked the trigger switch so I ordered a replacement. My only issue with mine is that sometimes the line over feeds and I'll have to manually rewind it back in which is a bother, but it'za Beast rresidentially for me and if I had to would buy another. thanks for sharing/posting @ Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care. Watched 08/01/2020....

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@KF1]

Thanks for the review. Appreciate the level-headed approach.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Hope it helped, and thank you for the kind words! :)

[@KF1]

@@CopperCreekCuts yes indeed. Decided to stick with my km130 after all. Have fun at the expo

[@DOCREAL1118]

Thanks again Brad but I wouldn't spend the money on something I could only half use. Great review. Just to put this out there, I love Echo products, just not everyone of them!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You are very welcome, thank you for watching and commenting!

[@kennethcastaldo7239]

I have the ego 530 cfm blower the carbon fiber shaft string trimmer and the hedge trimmer love them all..the hedge trimmer seems to have most long battery Life time running over 3 hrs on a 2amp hour 56 volt

[@crashjump1849]

Thanks for the review, so that's why echo took out the PSA connector on the new model. I like my little 58v PSA power head it runs clean and quiet. But your right for big jobs definitely need to break out with the gas powered stuff....

[@dennisalvarez2518]

Loving watching your videos.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I love that you watch them! :)

[@traceymatula5512]

I had that same problem I never used a edging head only string trimming

[@waynelynch3862]

I was all set on the gas powered Pro Attachment Series or an SRM model for clearing a 25x400 foot path through wetlands that includes lots of head high vines, plus 2'' saplings that would require a 'real' brush cutter blade. I noticed Echo says left hand on loop handle, since the exhaust is on the right side. I'm a lefty, so I would have to hold my hands backwards. I think this might be awkward, if not dangerous. I also held a bike handle model w/the cheap Echo strap harness, while at the dealer and it also felt awkward. Plus, after I get the path cut the bike handle model might be overkill for some annual yard maintenance. Echo rep did not even know that the units are for right-handed only, until she put me on hold and asked someone else. I was thinking maybe the battery model, but was concerned that it would not cut 2 inch saplings, so I checked utube and came across your review. Have not seen any brush-cutting yet w/battery model. Any suggestions? Did Echo change the design? Have you tried a Stihl or other electric brand that can cut brush? Thanks in advance....

[@edwardmajka3144]

Marathon Watching 9/25/21 Nice Product Reviews ! You sure do get a lot of free items! 😂 🤣 😆

[@oharacare]

I still use this 58v pas daily

[@oharacare]

I broke the shaft housing in half whilst edging. Covered by warranty.

[@iship9705]

I have a Echo Model CPH -58V weed eater, and after i used it about 20 times about a hour each time it started to lose power and stops like your first Demonstration, so today is 6/7/2021 I'm hoping it's just that plug and if so i hope i can put it back together after taking it apart lol ( Thank you for your Help )

[@winstonragsdale1818]

What is the rest of the story? I have been thinking about buying this system. I was hopeful they had resolved this issue. How old is your Echo? Was it just the plug?

[@jjluv7008]

I’m sure it did disconnect with all that pounding.

[@jolperez96]

The square whip shaft rounds out at the motor coupler due to too much torque, I own a few of these for my business and have torn them completely apart to repair them also the plastic trigger breaks inside due to how heavy the trigger button spring is

[@coxyardwork1524]

Brad, great video!! I am ready dive into some battery powered items specifically chainsaw, pole saw and hedge trimmers. Just don't know which is going to be the lucky brand to get my money. Leaning towards Milwaukee.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Never got my hands on their stuff (I reached out but no reply) but looks like they have a great system.

[@billieoverstreet2907]

I have two weedeater and there both have loss power. Thats why I'm looking to see if someone else is having this problem.

[@oharacare]

Yeah my one unit flucuates speed at top throttle, I did my dealer a favor by taking his last 58 V PAS unit when he stocjed with the 56 v stuff and that obe runs fine compared to my older unit

[@bruceslawncarenist9234]

Great review. Thank you

[@wcbrennan]

Well done video! I recently acquired one of these units that appears to be in good condition but has a dead battery. Does Echo or yourself have a recommended or preferred vendor that can rebuild the 58v battery?

[@BuzzinhornetCBR]

Have they addressed the issues you mention with the new ECHO EForce 56v system? The chainsaw looks completely redesigned and so do the power heads?

[@TheFantasticphotos]

Milwaukee m18 is best string and hedge trimming not a attachment but I think it’s best should try it out

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I think you are right, the string trimmer is a single, solid unit. I have heard good things about them!

[@wilfromkc]

1:39 Any battery powered equipment I buy to fix and sell has something loose like this. I find this often in blowers.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Hey, that is good to know, thank you!

[@layneliu246]

👍👍

[@neusac4590]

Nice video, thanks for sharing those reviews..👍

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You are very welcome, and thank YOU for watching them! :)

[@ronmatthews2250]

Can you do an echo 56 volt mower and ope tools their new line ? I want to buy either the Echo mower and ope or the new Milwaukee lawnmower and ope tools. Thanks

[@RINNTY]

Which hedge trimmer attachment will fit this.

[@ronmatthews2250]

Any info on the new Echo ,56 volt ope line ?

[@upscalelawncaremonroe408]

Wow, i was just looking at one of those yesterday.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Did you get it?

[@aperez8601]

I have one of these and I love it. I wish the edger attachment worked for this though. I have the 4ah battery and I can use it more than 3 times before I need to charge it. Never had any problems.

[@TheFullyChargedGardener]

Great video 👍🏻

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you, love your channel name!

[@jasongardener3425]

Great review 👌👍

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you, Sir! :)

[@media27]

So this is just a 58v echo string trimmer that accepts PAS attachments?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Well, I mean it IS a 58V PAS system. Not to split hairs but that would be like calling a gasoline PAS an ECHO string trimmer that accepts PAS attachments. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@lesaberdeen4068]

Thank you for the very informative review. I am considering purchasing this unit and I see your review is from 2018 it is now 2021. My question is have they corrected any of the issues that you have brought forward since your 2018 review and is it now a better product?

[@jonienglish3231]

review the Greenworks PRO 80v Trimmer

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I'll put it on the list, but no promises as to when it will happen. Thanks for the feedback!

[@TheGav0071]

I'm on my second CDST trimmer unit in 18 months. My second one lasted 4 days until it was cutting out! Is there a way to disconnect the overheat circuitry so it doesn't do this anymore?

[@Beach_Please7401]

Is the bump feed technology reliable? I have an Echo trimmer I purchased about 19 years ago with manual threading and it's time to upgrade. Any information you may have about this would be greatly appreciated!!

[@fishonthebrain6471]

I can’t do all of my trimming on a single battery. Might get 20minutes on turtle. If it would truly last 30minutes I’d be done. Super aggravating guess I need two batteries.

[@Freekniggers]

I would need about 5 batteries to keep one charged at all times.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

That's a lot!

[@Furiends]

Does anyone know if the "new" Echo 58v has resolved any of these issues. It's the CDST-58V2AH instead of the older one I have the CST-58V2AHCV. I love it as a string trimmer. I want to get an edging attachment for it but it seems like there's nothing that indicates thats even a possibility except videos like this. I'd buy the new version if I could get it with an edger attachment that worked well.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I received this unit last year and have heard nothing about new units, so I would think I am testing the most current version.

[@Furiends]

@@CopperCreekCuts Okay I did some research on the new one and and it was a lot different than I thought. The motor is in the attachment on the new one and as such isn't going to work with any existing attachments. That also explains why the one you got was the "old" one because its the only one that would work with the edger attachment. The new one came out around mid 2018 though. I'm going to try getting the edger attachment just gotta be nice to it I suppose.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

@@Furiends Oh, you are talking about a completely different model. The CDST is a dedicated string trimmer. It doesn't have any attachment capability. The joint in the middle is to fold the trimmer in half for storage, not to remove or add attachments. The model in this video is the only 58v pas (for attachments) model they make.

[@Furiends]

@@CopperCreekCuts yeah I just figured all that out hah. That wasn't abundantly clear from their marketing unfortunately. Its just the "better lighter version."

[@advirnig]

have you solved the issues running the edger, etc on this? i have a theory... have you used the turtle mode for the edger instead of the rabbit mode? it might be better in terms of longevity, i dont know.

[@Anto-kz5hk]

More expensive but maybe same as the 40v rioby

[@shyamsunderverma6132]

Good

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you!

[@randalstocker6581]

The plastic orange trigger lever is a very poor design, easily breaks where it wraps around the shaft, especially as the plastic ages. . I've replaced twice in 4 years of ownership and now (3/2022) cannot get replacements. I gave up and cut an access hole in the handle so I can depress the switch directly. I would expect that from a low end, made to a price point model, but not this high end model marketed for the "pro".

[@stephengunn2960]

I already have the gas PAS system, including the blower attachment. I was considering getting the 58v Pas motor partly as an alternative and partly to use with the blower attachment for a quick cleaning of the patio when I might not want to fire up the gas engine. The blower attachment isn't technically listed as compatible with this 58v motor. Any thoughts on whether it'd be workable for light duty cleaning?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I think (but could be wrong) most of the time if they say an attachment isn't compatible it has to do with torque issues. The 58V PAS doesn't have a clutch like its gas counterparts, which mean high torque applications can pose some issues. Depending on how big your patio is it may be cheaper and just as effective to grab a harbor freight blower and battery. I remember when I started I bought a 20V WORX blower on clearance at Walmart that would last 6 minutes on high or 15 on low. So not much time at all, but enough for one long driveway.

[@aroundthehousewithjohnny7018]

Nothing but problems with this battery system (rebranded AEG platform). Almost impossible to find replacements at Echo dealers and the ones that you can find are stale stock destined for the same fate as the faulty ones, despite costing more than the tool. Really a disappointment on the batteries made by TTI - the tool hard parts are great. Echo is hoping this system goes up in smoke ! They are obviously getting out of the cordless tool market and focusing back on gas. Sabotaged by TTI ?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the feedback! I tried to find AEG to look at there stuff but all that came up was airsoft toys? Oh well, thanks again for the comment.

[@jeanninelavalliere4711]

En Français svp merci

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Je m'excuse, je ne parle pas français!