Rio DEBATES Is R9 Ronaldo Better Than Cristiano & Messi? | How Good Was Scholes? The Best Awards

R9 vs Rio Ferdinand, Messi vs Ronaldo, Giggs v Bale, What tier does Pirlo sit in? Rio calls out Harry Pinero! Welcome back to the FIVE Channel, today Rio Ferdinand, Joel Beya & Stephen Howson are back Vibe With FIVE. Stay tuned as the guys run through a past and present tier list at the FIFA THE BEST awards! R9 v Rio? Should Messi and Ronaldo have their own tier? Where does Mbappe go? Best English striker of Rio’s generation and much more!. Don’t forget to like, comment, subscribe and hit that notification bell so you never miss a minute of football coverage, exclusive interviews, and fiery debates this season!
0:00; - Intro
1:00; - Who is in the 1st best tier?
2:33; - R9 vs Rio
4:45; - Do Messi & Ronaldo get their own tier?
6:09; - 2nd Best tier & Rio calls out Harry Pinero
8:45; - 3rd Best Tier, where does Mbappé go?
11:25; - 4th Best Tier, Giggs better than Bale?
13:33; - Who is the best English striker of Rio’s generation?
16:41; - Most Random Barclay’s Era Players?
20:02; - Outro
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[@5magazine]

0:00; - Intro 1:00; - Who is in the 1st best tier? 2:33; - R9 vs Rio 4:45; - Do Messi & Ronaldo get their own tier? 6:09; - 2nd Best tier & Rio calls out Harry Pinero 8:45; - 3rd Best Tier, where does Mbappé go? 11:25; - 4th Best Tier, Giggs better than Bale? 13:33; - Who is the best English striker of Rio’s generation? 16:41; - Most Random Barclay’s Era Players? 20:02; - Outro

[@DarthQueefious]

Messi is in his own tier CRonaldo is among the best of the rest

[@davispaul2279]

@@DarthQueefiousif Ronaldo stayed at Madrid he would have 7 ballon d’ors. 7 champions leagues. And he should have deserved 2007 and 2018 adding up to 9 ballon d’ors. This should be in the conversation of what could have been

[@draza9000]

@@davispaul2279 😂😂😂😂

[@justinsm]

@@davispaul2279 not 2007. He's great but considering he's defeated by Kaka and the whole Milan squad so, no.

[@davispaul2279]

@@justinsm Ronaldo had better and more consistent stats as a RM. Ac Milan finished 4th in the league and kaka only won the ballon d'or because he won the UCL

[@biggy3rd]

What kind of a football list doesn't include Maldini, Canavaro, Raul, Puskas, Eusebio, Baresi, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Zico, Charlton, Beckenbauer. Did they use a criteria we weren't told?

[@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh]

ZICO IS THE MOST UNDERRATED IN THIS LIST 70 GOALS IN A SEASON AS A MIDFIELDER 💀

[@edtcreative]

A lot of oversights and mainly focused on forwards

[@englishtalentfc9175]

​@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh Zico 🤣🤣 that failure just like that clown neymar If you don't win the wc for Brazil you shouldn't even be considered to be in that list

[@Vargolis]

Rivaldo

[@PaulC3K]

Yeah. Buffon is the only player with a focus on the defensive side of the game. I feel like if it was a small sample of who makes what tier, then obviously absent players would make sense. However it feels like all the obvious modern creative talent has been categorised here. Yeah, very weird. I mean, wheres the man himself??

[@AJ-nd4nk]

R9 is the silent goat. Most naturally gifted footballer.

[@ALIENGOATMESSI]

Messi is what u mentioned without silent.No person is player than him

[@AJ-nd4nk]

@@ALIENGOATMESSI That's your opinion

[@user-bl5jr5vz6i]

Maradona

[@erikpuka2627]

​@@ALIENGOATMESSIyou never seen Maradona then. Messi can't sniff that level of technical ability and skill. Maradona is the untouchable no 1. He makes Messi look like James Rodriguez technically.

[@BelfastManUtdTherapy]

Love that phrase. To me Messi is the actual GOAT but Ronaldo Na Zario is the Silent GOAT!!

[@Meldan749]

R9 and R10 is the benchmark for footballers. As top tier as they get.

[@sudarshangs4235]

Zidane

[@TheLuminousOne]

Pre-injury R9 was The Phenomenon, the most scintillating and gifted footballer from what I've seen over the last 35 years of watching the game. The football World lost out when his knee exploded in 2000 against Lazio.

[@jasonowen348]

Better than George yeah yeh

[@Coup0705]

R9 is still the best player for me. His combination of skill, speed, power, finishing and intelligence is still unmatch for me. He and Ronaldinho are the 2 I enjoy watching the most. At their prime, they make football look easy and fun.

[@boldey2k7]

100%

[@ahmadsyafiq1629]

When is this prime

[@mrhussain9008]

He might be the "best" but he's not the "greatest" to be the greatest you need to have the longevity, trophies or mentality, R9 don't have that. Most skilled player ever is between R9, Maradona and Messi imo but those two are much "greater" than R9.

[@stevetheiii477]

@@RiberyGDL messi is not top 5? next joke pls, coming from a dude who's profile name has ribery in it, a dude that spent most his career in the Bundesliga... the comfort zone argument is ridiculous, if you're a player in Barca and have the consistency to be the best player in that team for a decade, why would he leave anyway? u do know in his era Barca was the best club along with Madrid, so why would he downgrade and go to the prem for a challenge? no footballer in their right mind is doing that. Ronaldo went to Madrid because its an upgrade from united, he only left Madrid in 2018 because he had beef with Perez not because "he wanted a new challenge"

[@lwandasibango7248]

I enjoy watching Jay Jay Okocha too

[@sj2672]

Did Ste just say Becham is in the same tier as Zidane and Ronaldinho 🤔😆 you must be tired, mate.

[@thesaintst1851]

I almost choked on my porridge! Beckham second tier???

[@stephenandrews5530]

Nothing funnier than an biased United fan. Propably wants Darren Fletcher, and Gary Neville in the mix aswell🤡

[@90swasgud]

Tier 1: Zidane, R9, Maradona, Messi, CR7, Cryuff, Pele. Tier 2: Van Basten, Baggio, Matthäus, Platini, Rummenigge, Gerd Müller, Beckenbauer, Maldini, Ronaldinho, Romario, Rijkaard, Gullit, Iniesta, Mbappe.

[@90swasgud]

Best, Charlton, Rivaldo, Zico, Raul etc. Could all be mentioned in Tier 2 respectively. There's just too many players to name that should've been on this table ahead of the likes of Pogba, Hazard, Ozil, Sanchez.

[@satryopradana1653]

Van Basten for me is number 1, retired at less than 30 Y.O & win 3 Bd'OR.

[@jermainebrown9827]

I understand what Rio is saying because R9 didn't achieve anywhere near what he should have. Which goes to show you how good he was. However it is quite ironic that Rio doesn't see him tier one even though he is the only man to score a hatrick against him when he was past his peak 😂😂. R9 won 2 Ballon D'or, 3 Best Fifa mens player, 2 World Cups, 2 Copa Americas, 2 La Ligas, 1 Uefa Cup, 2 Uefa Super Cups and more but still underacheived speaks for itself. Put respect on the REAL RONALDO please!

[@alm31]

He put him in tier 1. Maybe learn to listen kiddo

[@jermainebrown9827]

@@alm31 I did listen fella very carefully. Rio reluctantly put him tier 1 after being persuaded

[@alm31]

@@jermainebrown9827 yes. That’s how thinking works. So well done fella.

[@boldey2k7]

No lie there’s no better player than peak r9. He was unstoppable

[@alm31]

Yeah coz you played against him didn’t you? Rio played against messi, cr7 and r9 Quite down

[@andrewfasanya6904]

FACTS

[@mel-bp1kp]

​@alm31 Rio agreed to that though R9 in his prime is God tier Messi and CR7 weren't able to do that.

[@jonnybarron1518]

@mel-bp1kp Messi is definitely god tier in his prime lol we can check 2010-2011 season

[@Welchesfruit56]

@@mel-bp1kpthere’s about 5 season they both had that are better than r9 best season

[@fitzanderson1980]

Peak for Peak is the real question. Longetivity is sometimes used as too large a factor. Technology has improved so much, that career ending injuries are now 6 months out. R9 & Dinho are levels

[@theonewson1987]

Barthez played that game with no arms 😂 this was a great segment, the vibe of everyone with the banter was spot on Rio on form

[@broza82]

I remember watching that game, and Rio was right 🤣🤣

[@Rellzisme]

@RiberyGDLuse your brain mate there are many great english footballers

[@shedzproductions8262]

ending so funny . haha Rio looks at Ste at first like what is he on about. Then proceeds to list about 30 players. Love it

[@antonykinuthia2019]

Was laughing the whole time 😂

[@CharlieKerr11]

Simple answer. Yes! I hate the longevity arguement. When talking about the best to ever do it. It’s about the best player to ever grace a pitch and do things you have never seen. R9 is head and shoulders above both

[@nelsonekberg3556]

You know ball. In their prime R9 was the best football player ever. Serie A was the best league back then and he won the WC after those injuries being the top scorer of the tournament

[@siyaharrygeyi1424]

No one is above Messi .. you are delusional

[@CharlieKerr11]

@@siyaharrygeyi1424 r9 did things Messi cannot. It’s that simple

[@siyaharrygeyi1424]

Lol! What things?? R9 dribbled past players and Messi also did the same thing .. just that Messi did it from deep and he did it for 10+ years .. R9 just did it in a Brazilian way for 5years

[@CharlieKerr11]

@@siyaharrygeyi1424 hahahaha how old are you fella?! Pick any r9 game in his prime and watch 90 minutes then come tell me Messi is better. At Barca and inter he was something to behold

[@jjsaddler9337]

How does Clarence Seedorf always get overlooked ?????

[@malikaveli]

Riquelme as well

[@mistereuro4738]

Use your noddle🤓

[@carlosdias6175]

no way Rio discounted Pele... The best league in the world back then could have been a handful of them. The Brazilian league couldn't have been that bad when they were destroying European sides at the World Cup. Pele and Maradona need more credit, as opponents were chopping them down for fun. CR7 and Messi have played during a period that top players are a lot more protected and science is better to prolong their careers. That has to help

[@bryanmarshe4545]

Thank you. The disrespect. Who told Rio the Brazilian league wasn’t the best. Watch Santos destroy the European Champions Benfica in the Copa Libertidoros.

[@skrollerbarTV]

Oh in my opinion Pele still the greatest 3 world cups - scored a goal in WC final at 17!!!!!!!! Scored over a thousand goals - he has to be but a lot of haters and people who don’t ‘really’ know the history of football. Pele was so great he slowed the tempo down to what he wanted to do - he was Zidane, R9, Ronaldinho combined!

[@adambee9975]

Not just that when he played European club sides he blazed them

[@alvarohigino]

Yeah, and the best players of that period, including europeans players, said Pelé was the best, like Beckenbauer, Di Stefano, Puskas etc.

[@09thespecialone]

@@skrollerbarTVPele is the GOAT. Only Maradona and Ronaldo Phenomenon were almost his equals.

[@suf6320]

Pogba & Sanchez sums up the whole video.

[@paulmccluskey6710]

The “who” from Rio when Ronaldinho was mentioned was hilarious 😂 he is right tho, for what he done for us fans and the sheer joy he gave us he’s 100% top tier

[@ThaARossBoss]

I love how serious Rio takes these lists. Respect for fellow professionals.

[@Stubbz83]

When I was a kid there was this scary ora around r9 playing, the excitement and the fear he brought into teams was something Iv never seen in my life

[@rauoool80s23]

When R9 was on a live TV match, it was an event. Even people who weren't really interested in football will watch. It was the first time a player had captivated the audience since Maradona.

[@TheLuminousOne]

If God came down on Earth in physical human form to play football, he would look and play as R9 did before the injury. He was astonishing. Such beauty and power in one player. He was the one footballer that terrified the best defensive players in the World on the opposing team.

[@jasonowen348]

You think anyone been like him since..Henry probably closest but no in my opinion

[@rauoool80s23]

@@jasonowen348 Messi

[@Stubbz83]

@@jasonowen348 nobody’s ever been like him since Amazin player before his injuries

[@tny8045]

Great episode more of these

[@mugwek]

R9 is by far the best striker to have played. Fast, strong, finishing, dribbling and even passing! The only thing perhaps he lacked was heading

[@philipezra8671]

And even that, he was good in the air.

[@weaponX14]

you know who has all that and more? CRISTIANO. siuuuuu!!

[@MrAurang]

100%

[@fareezfarouk9385]

Passing 🤣🤣show me one he never pass

[@mugwek]

Cristiano for longevity and fitness yes@@weaponX14

[@pardo1977]

there is nothing to be debated. Ronaldo before injuries was a monster. When a man like NESTA says that : 'Messi and Cristiano are Great but they are playable, CR9 Was unplayable' says it all. by the way he played with all of them Messi and Cristiano during the late part of his career and Ronaldo when he was 23 to 25 Yo.

[@desmondachocky537]

Wrong,Maldini only played against Cr7 in their ucl tie of Milan vs Man Utd where he had a younger Cr7 in his pocket.He came close to playing Messi but he never did as Messi was injured n to this day he he's on record saying that he's the luckiest player never to have faced Messi n he's glad he never did.He did say though that Maradona was the toughest opponent he ever faced in his illustrious career.He however acknowledged Messi as the undisputed GOAT after his heroics in Qatar.Check his recent interviews,they are there on the net n on KZbin so am not making things up.

[@desmondachocky537]

And I used Maldini's example coz he's one of the GOATS's when it comes to defenders n dedefinitely a better defender n leader than Nesta.

[@desmondachocky537]

Nesta was actually embarrassed by Messi in that 4-0 comeback at the camp nou in 2011-2012 Ucl season tie against Milan.Messi was insane n mesmerizing scoring two brilliant goals n assisting one.U can check the highlights on KZbin.

[@gpac9786]

the R9 era had tons of legends Zidane, Seedorf, Kaka, Maldini, Bergkamp, Oliver Kahn, Zanetti list goes on. Messi and Cristiano playing against Harry Mcguire

[@cryptone0075]

Great episode guys ❤

[@vyogh]

My tier 1 has always been 6 players: Pele, Maradona, Zidane, R9, Messi and Ronaldo. I can’t believe Rio put Zidane in tier 2

[@charldouxlombard4991]

Man just gonna say it cause no one is, the intro song doesn't get enough recognition. Missed that intro so much. You guys dont use it enough in your vids! Banger man big ups for the artist. Lyrics on point👏

[@Woze899]

Its Joel

[@charldouxlombard4991]

@@Woze899 thanks bro! Sounded like him, just wasn't sure 👍

[@BenDPB]

I blood loved this by the way! Would love more of these, maybe even an all time Great Britain SQUAD, so you can argue over who does and does not make the "plane" but also conscious of squad balance too.

[@paulb1951]

Maradona is the best player I’ve ever seen in 40 odd years of watching football.

[@fareezfarouk9385]

Somehow Messi and Ronaldinho surpass him

[@09thespecialone]

For those who actually saw of them play with their own eyes (my late grandfather and other folks of his generation), the usual ranking by chronological order is : 1) king Pele (58-62) 2) Maradona (85-87) and Ronaldo Fenomeno (94-99). Those are probably the highest peaks in football history. They are untouchable.

[@valerioscharer4676]

​@@09thespecialoneThey are not. Messi IS MILES better just because football like every other sport evolves. In the 80's there was only one who clocked AT 9.97. nowadays every top Sprinter IS Below 10 seconds. Football IS no différent. Tactics, Athletic ability etc have improved so much. Thé Legendary 80's Milan team would get Smoked against 2023 city. Thats reality, nostalgia IS an amazing drug i suppose

[@09thespecialone]

@@valerioscharer4676 I don’t care, dude. If your lifespan were almost a century as my late grandfather and few other people of his generation who were lucky to see ALL of them play, you would’ve not write that non sense. For most people with football knowledge, Pele, Maradona and Ronaldo were the strongest footballers the world has ever seen. Messi and Cristiano are just behind them.

[@valerioscharer4676]

@@09thespecialone so you think football hasn't gotten better? Stats prove They do though. Modern Players are Way faster, run more, have better passing accuaracy etc. Thé Players your grandfather has Seen were amazing FOR THEIR TIME and They helped evolve the sport.

[@CoylesCalcioCorner]

Apart from being a phenom straight out of the gate, R9 lost 2 years of his career and returned to dominate the world cup and deliver greatness no matter what condition he was in, as long as he was on the pitch. His performance against Rio was one of the best at OT by an away player in my lifetime. Also Serie A has been one of the best leagues for much of the past 100 years, & with 4 World Cups Italy have been a mammoth player in world football, and we’ve had no better player than Roberto Baggio, who was our best player in three competing world cups and delivered 18 years of greatness in what was the best league. In 29 games against the great milan team he had 8gls & 6ast, despite largely being the underdog. He had 439 goal involvements in 604 games in an elite defensive league. Also from Italy, Pirlo is absolutely top tier, Cannavaro, Baresi, Maldini, Zoff & Buffon. When you preview Italy for the Euro’s feel free to drop me an invite and I’ll be happy to give you an informed Italian perspective. (Ha, wrote the message before seeing you arrive at your senses with R9, good man)

[@HoistusMaximus]

Baggio is CRIMINALLY underrated. Right up there in the same bracket as Zidane for me. Did such an incredible job at smaller teams, carried Italy in 1994 and just missed out on a World Cup. But it once again brings the point that it's not all about goal and assist stats, it's about watching them play. He was just a joy to watch.

[@abhijeetmavi1110]

the last segment was the best. top man :)

[@mrfacts6860]

Messi is the best goal scorer Best playmaker Best dribbler Rest follow

[@ALIENGOATMESSI]

Exactly

[@shikaka2325]

If Rooney is tier three, there should be no other English players in one or two. I say that objectively as an American who’s been using the eye test. Not by what badge I supported as a kid. Pogba? Based on what? Most hairstyles? Where the F is TOTTI?

[@Woze899]

Pogba won world cup and is clear of rooney interms of raw talent

[@SFM35.8]

pogba is tier 73

[@shikaka2325]

@@Woze899 you couldn’t be more wrong. Rooney could play almost any position on the pitch. That’s Raw talent.He was smashing premier league defenders at 16, what has pogba done on the club level? Sure he won a World Cup. but,France most likely wins without him. Rooney could do what pogba could do and play up top. It’s not even close

[@trillykeemy]

@@Woze899you’re a CLOWN! 😂

[@trillykeemy]

@@shikaka2325 thank you for schooling him, and also for an American guy, I respect your knowledge.🫡

[@johnpacino007]

Started watching football when Pelé was still playing for Santos, & beginning to wind down his career. Saw Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Maradona, at their very peak. Same for Zico, Platini, Ronaldo Nazário & Zidane, Dinho, Cristiano, Messi. From that group of players. Pelé, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Maradona, Messi, were the best I've seen. ( no particular order ). Ronaldo Nazário would easily have made that grouping without his injuries. Just an incredible player, running with the ball & a smashing goalscorer of every type of goal.

[@seraqueeusourealmenteobode31]

MARCO VAN BASTEN AND FERENC PUSKAS ... TOO !!!!

[@philipezra8671]

For the record, R9 had more ability in one leg than the rest and that leg was also FKD

[@rauoool80s23]

Yeah and no way Zidane is a higher tier player than R9. In fact Romario, van Basten and Batistuta were all better than Zidane, I know they played in a different position but I'd rather have any one of them in my team than Zidane. Zidane was a great player but I think he is rated higher than he actually deserves.

[@philipezra8671]

@@rauoool80s23 people don’t talk about Zico either.

[@ryanherbert4878]

Beckenbauer missing with his recent passing is a ridiculous miss. Lots of other people not mentioned but I just don't know how he's missed.

[@muhsinahmed9714]

R9 is hands down the best forward that has ever lived - no debate

[@deanhowell5936]

Are you classing Messi and Ronaldo as strikers?

[@ashconbeats8414]

It’s crazy how many strikers were about back in the day. Now you only have wingers and false nines. Bring back the 4-4-2.

[@user-yv9hw3jm4c]

with no order: Tier 1 : Messi, R9, Maradona, Pele, R10, Cruyff Tier 2 : Romario, Buffon, CR7, Zidane, Neymar, Kaka, Xavi, Iniesta, Mbappe, Henry, Van Pasten, Eto'o Tier 3: Pirlo, Modric, Bergkamp, De Bruyne, Salah, Hazard, Rooney, Figo, Pogba, Giggs, Lampard, Becham, Ozil, Robben, Ribery, Gerrard, Scholes Tier 4: Alexes Sanchez, Pogba, Bale

[@chuka6625]

Van Basten, KDB and Figo being a whole tier below Gerrard is the definition of the term “British Hype”

[@kadeemlynch-prime1683]

It's not Messi and Ronaldo. It's just Messi. He is in his own tier. Maradona is better than CR7. I am taking R9 on his best day over Christiano as well. And to be honest, Ronaldinho was also a better footballer in my opinion. Yes Ronaldo's career was longer, but all the years of greatness that those other guys produced is enough for me to put them above him.

[@mathewpt4478]

Typical Messi Fan who is hating on Ronaldo as usual Cry More PLZ there is now way that R9 or Maradona is better than Cristiano and learn the name Cristiano then say it clown 😂

[@N8KOW]

R9 is the goat for me

[@Jaycee_2x]

Tier 1 - Messi, Pele, R9, Maradona, Cr7 Tier 2 - Cruyff, R10, Zizou, Romario, Van Basten Tier 3 - Henry, Iniesta, Neymar, Xavi, Kaka honorable mentions... Platini, Zico, Mbappe, Suarez, Zlatan

[@sulyis]

Best @Rio vid ever! Top tier performance

[@JamesFoxx]

Cruyff v Zidane for better manager/player…. No disrespect to Zidane, but Johan Cruyff is above this category… he’s more than a manager and a player… he is probably the single most important person in football over the past 50 years… he basically created modern football and shaped the way it is played now… and he was implementing the tactics we eulogise about today with Pep etc in the early 90’s… what he did for Holland, Ajax and Barcelona in shaping their DNA goes way above and beyond anything Zidane has achieved… and that includes winning the World Cup… And correct me if I’m wrong, didn’t Cruyff also win 3 European Cups on the bounce in the early 70’s as a player?

[@sudarshangs4235]

Natural talent and flair - R9 Everything else - Messi and CR7

[@dair7947]

simple as that

[@user-gt2mi2wq4e]

Bullshit. Messi is even more talented. Better dribbler and playmaker. R9 did tricks and was a physical specimen. Nostalgia is getting the better of you. Interms of talent: Messi>R9>>>Cristiano

[@Hhammer]

Messi imo was more talented than R9.

[@grinchoi1]

In terms of talent I would put R9 and Messi very close. R9 had a greater arsenal of moves but Messi has the better vision/passing@@user-gt2mi2wq4e

[@ALIENGOATMESSI]

​@@dair7947 messi is not on cr7 level.Messi is different

[@Amandahugankiss8888]

R9 before the injuries is THE BEST attacking player I've ever seen. Impossible to stop.

[@Elcapz1]

R9 should have a tier of his own! Prime for prime there is no better! He's the best player I've ever seen

[@chandradrews3257]

Saying Pele didn't play in the best league is a bit unfair though. What was the best league in the 50s and 60s? He played in a Brazilian league that wasn't yet cannibalised by European teams. It was arguably a very strong league back in the 1960s.

[@rcl9635]

Exactly, and did you know Pele's goals-per-game average playing for Santos against European teams was even better than his goals-per-game average playing against Brazilian teams? One of his best games ever was actually the Club World Cup final against the European Champions Benfica in the 60's, not to mention all he did against AC Milan, Inter, all the World Cups against the world's best defenders, etc... the argument that he played in the Brazilian league is just silly.

[@nahuaqueguimaraes6641]

Playing without yellow or red cards is just insane

[@dondamon4669]

Giggs in the 90's was one of the best players in the world

[@warrengomez67]

Agreed

[@mbofftheradar]

For me, what Cruyff did as a player and manager has never been and will never be surpassed, he taught Guardiola everything he knew, and Pep popularised posession based football over counter attacking football, which is why we see teams like Man City, Barcelona, Milan, Juventus (Conte) and many others were seen holding onto the ball for minutes on end, R9 and Zidane had more potential and a higher ceiling, but one of them had no club until 25 and the other was ontop of the world until 25...

[@gabkoost]

Pre injury R9 at age 22 had nearly 1 goal a game, killed it in 4 different leagues, 2 different continents, was a world cup winner, had 1 Ballon d'or and 2 fifa player of the year, broke record transfer fee twice in a row and has shown to that point the greatest level of dominance over his rivals i ever saw. If there is a "IF" player then it's R9. He was far from his prime and yet as good as anyone before ore since.

[@Capone78]

Where is Zlatan?

[@X-Klawmation]

Mark Viduka doesn't get much mention but he was a menace of a striker in the early premier league

[@nascimentoarantes]

lol

[@letholamokhesi1253]

Pls

[@manishmohite2393]

What about defenders and gk? Maldini, nesta , ramos , buffon , casillas, neur, carlos, cafu, dani alves and so many more

[@danielcancel2901]

Saying Pele didn’t play in the best league is a lie. The Brazilian league was the best during that time, all the Brazilian stars would stay in the league. Santos would do tours in Europe and woop europes best teams while Pele dominating those matches

[@malcolmchhakchhuak9150]

"At their prime, at their prime" Everyone saying at their prime, by that logic most top top footballer in their prime would be in tier 1, eg: adriano in his prime, kaka in his prime, so many more in their prime

[@supersayiantupac7261]

R9 for me is the real Goat.. was just sad we didnt see him for a long time

[@reeyanmaknojiya8921]

The vibes were immaculate in this one! Rio had me rolling🤣🤣🤣

[@arwindren]

Agree with Rio 💪! Finally someone aligns with my view. Years and years of watching football. He is right and straight forward ✅😊

[@IWannatalkpodcast]

Where's Gullit and how did Lampard end up near Romario, lol

[@raheem88]

No Rivaldo or Batistuta wow

[@Kaleem78]

British hype, ahead of Gerrad, Scholes, Suarez, Rooney anyday. Romario tier 4 is criminal

[@wtfamiactuallyright1823]

What I found hilarious about this is, that even Rio had quite a delay when bringing up, Andy Cole. There's just blank spot with Cole (Even for myself.), he was SO good and watching him play for Newcastle had me wetting myself as a Man United fan. DEFO, better than Owen and up there with Shearer, Kane and Rooney.

[@Ramboosta123]

You should judge players based on their greatness and impact rather than just their ability. Pele was so good his team went on tour like he was Michael Jackson. A war was temporarily stopped just to watch him play. 3 world cups and the player who anyone who saw him says can never be touched. Disregarding him so blasé like is just ignorant. Also, Ste is so socially awkward lmao. He just seems uncomfortable lmao

[@electronotch]

What's this based on, players seen live? Only 3 players from before the 90s, are people serious? Where's Platini? Charlton? Scirea? Maldini? Zico? Garrincha? Puskas? Beckenbauer? Di Stefano? Eusebio? Recency-biased bollocks with zero defenders and a couple famous oldies thrown in to 'look good'.

[@akkimoreno4209]

Romario next to Sanchez and Pogba hahahahahah

[@ibi4938]

LIONEL MESSI SCORED A HATTRICK VS REAL MADRID WITH ZIDANE RONALDO BECKHAM RAUL FIGO RAMOS CASIALLS & WHERE R.CARLOS SLIPPED WHEN MESSI PASSED HIM & ALL WITH 19 YEARS OLD 💥⚽️

[@ronin341]

Rio not mentioning Berba with the top strikers in the premiership is madness. he played with him, and he knows how good was he.

[@DS-dw3pz]

How tf Neymar Mbappe are tier 2 especially Mbappe? The one who made the list must be a kid

[@jamespye2936]

my own tiers: what do you guys think tier 1: messi CR7 maradona pele tier 2: Zidane cruyff R9 Dinho tier 3: Xavi iniesta henry modric romario suarez tier 4: scholes gerrard neymar pirlo kaka van basten mbappe buffon tier 5: lampard eto bergkamp figo ribery robben rooney de bruyne tier 6: beckham ozil giggs bale salah tier 7: hazard sanchez pogba

[@tropicalnumbers197]

Been playing too much fifa buddy

[@ALIENGOATMESSI]

Cr7 has failed in 5 wc.In tier 1 he does not deserve

[@waavyjones9868]

That’s crazy. R9 was the first person in tier 1

[@rossa23]

Decent list. The only mistakes were putting R9 in tier 2 instead of tier 1 and Beckham in tier 4 instead of tier 2.

[@franklingoodwin]

R9 without the knee injuries would've been better than both Messi and CR7. But he did have those knee injuries...

[@thetruth4654]

that is a hypothetical, you cannot say that he would or wouldn`t, it`s impossible to prove. R9 was great, but people use the what "if." aspect to try and push me way higher then he should be.

[@ALIENGOATMESSI]

Not messi.Impossible.Messi is in 0 tier.Hes different

[@gn1495]

Messi is a FIFA baby

[@Lowkey_AFC]

@@thetruth4654erm.. that’s because until the Injuries came, he was doing exactly that things that not even Maradona could do R9 was different and your obviously too young to even know this, at 60/70% after being out for 2 whole years he came back and won brazil the word cup like mate seriously the guy played from 2002 to 2006 at a very top top level when battling injury every year; that United game he missed the first leg came back and the rest is history R9 was just different kid

[@weaponX14]

never. his work ethic wasnt there. couldnt touch Ronaldo with a 5ft pole

[@joeh4303]

Ste doesn't rate Zidane but rates Bruno Fernandes 😅

[@nascimentoarantes]

Yeah don’t fancy his opinions but on this one I agree Zidane is below tier 1. Cruyff better.

[@quanle724]

Best strikers in PL's history (based on peak ability alone): Shearer, Henry, Bergkamp, Kane, Rooney, van Nistelrooy, van Persie, Torres. Honorable mention: Vardy (15/16 season). Scored in 11 straight games, insane record. Ronaldo (21/22 season). At 36-37yo, in a dysfunctional Man U team, he was still better than most strikers in terms of goal scoring.

[@crobisbobis]

16-22 R9 23-30 Messi , easiest way to explain it.

[@kyriacandro]

1 question where is Eric cantona ?????

[@FeedAmbition]

We see and hear everyday "new messi" or "new CR7" but when's the last time you heard of a talented youngster being called New R9. He's simply unrepeatable. And there's a reason that R9 is the Idol of our Idols. End of discussion.

[@user-gt2mi2wq4e]

Mbappe has been called as a similar player as has Haaland occasionally. But ofcourse neither is as good. There is no new Cristiano either because he doesn't have a unique ability; just super consistent and super driven.

[@FeedAmbition]

@@user-gt2mi2wq4e you're right about Cristiano. As for Mbappe and Haaland they're both more like Henry and Ibrahimovic, and miles and miles away from R9.

[@manishmohite2393]

R9🥶 The only player i have seem so many professionals and fans go like "what if?" "What if he was not hindered by injuries?" Man that thought is scary.

[@user-ho1vf6eu7c]

They put Pogba, Alexis Sanchez, Ozil, Bale.. I guess Roberto Baggio, A. Del Piero and F. Totti were playing golf..

[@Faria26]

Where is Eusebio?! 😅

[@kevoanmanderson3715]

Rivaldo?

[@freejon8288]

Robbie Earnshaw, Andy Johnson, Sam Ricketts, Habib Beye, Leon Best…… ahh love me some proper Barclays talk

[@StringerBellz]

What , no Stern John?😂

[@freejon8288]

@@StringerBellz what a lad Stern John was, Trinidad baller 🙌🏽

[@chriswealth5471]

The story Rio shared on how Abu was signed for West Ham, is similar to how Jay Jay Okocha signed for was it Leverkusen or Frankfurt in Germany. From just coming to train with the team.😂😅

[@D0NDIDO]

Ronaldinho in tier 2 is an actual madness

[@alvarohigino]

Yeah, he should be tier 1.

[@mistereuro4738]

Exactly, he's tier 3

[@D0NDIDO]

@@mistereuro4738 blasphemy

[@09thespecialone]

On the contrary. It’s actually accurate. Ronaldinho was a legend but he was never a GOAT caliber player as the likes of Ronaldo Fenomeno.

[@abdulmessi6714]

COMPARING MESSI TO ANYONE ELSE AS A FOOTBALLER IS A JOKE. MESSI IS IN A TIER OF HIS OWN

[@carlmorris7723]

Diego maradonna

[@abdulmessi6714]

He is probably the closest but messi is still number 1

[@StretfordEndGaz]

RAndom Barclays players - two come to mind.. Kiki Musampa - Man City & Andre Bikey QPR In terms of PL forwards, you have top 5 - Henry, Shearer ,Rooney , Kane, Cole in that order (ive based this on their whole team play, but for me Henry is simply the BEST PL player EVER)

[@mischiefmanaged1726]

Whoever made the tier list started watching football yesterday XD.

[@merengue7139]

R9s best seasons in terms of goalscoring would be considered a bad seasons for Messi and CR7.

[@shutts91]

Look at his debut season at Barca and you’ll see that what you said is wrong

[@richfranklin9270]

R9 was doing it against goated defenders week in week out, they don't make defenders like that no more 😢

[@jehuti2468]

R9 made me a football fan but man come on.. messi scored 92 goals a single year.. nobody touch that record..

[@ElDragow]

@@jehuti2468Ronaldo scored 60+ goals 4 years in a row as a winger. Nobody is touching that record.

[@merengue7139]

@@shutts91 so thats his best season and he had 47 goals. Most season he would end around 30. Cristiano Ronaldo scored 46 in the league only in 2012 💀. He’s got an average of 50 goals a season for 17 seasons straight. So R9s best season is belows CR7 average lol

[@nathanbailey2689]

Man said who has put alexis Sanchez on the sheet 😂😂😂 11:36

[@rj6657]

Like the channel from Cape Town. Random players, Zoran tosic, Bebe, Gabriel Oberton,David Bentley, the whole Portsmouth Redknapp team included Benny MC Carthy I think and Reading Coppell team full of some

[@DS-nk4ul]

R9 was a monster and wonderful to watch but no chance better than CR7 or Messi

[@xbrown_fs]

Ronaldinho has to be in Tier 1

[@alvarohigino]

Absolutely, he was complete and perfect. The best playmaker Ive ever seen.

[@timothyhogan2750]

Every time, Rio and Ste shows their level of football is so far apart to Joel’s Guys are deep in the game Cheers Guys ❤

[@dave93x]

People forget about Del Piero. R9, Shearer and Del Piero were the ones I held up at the top when I was growing up.

[@vengeful444mars6]

Finally glad someone mentioned georgan kincladgze..( spelt wrong sos mush ).😂

[@WhozItTV]

Obscure Prem Player, Martin Pringle for some reason I always remembered this guy

[@ashearera]

It’s quite the video strategy this, get through an hour video in 20 minutes by having all 3 people talk simultaneously 😂

[@mauriciogrisi9129]

absolutely agree with RIO!

[@gannonmanu09]

JoeL needs his p45 after that tier list