5th Generation Dogfight Su-57 Felon Vs F-22 Raptor Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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This video features The 5th Gen Dogfight from the Top Gun Maverick movies with the Su-57 lots of you wanted to see this video commenting what if maverick had the F-22 etc etc, well in this video we see how that might have played out.
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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ This ones for those of you who were requesting this fight with the Su-57 and the F-22 but with me in the Su-57, Thank you to everyone for watching and if you have other ideas for content put them in the comment section below and we'll see what we can do in the future.

[@yashartcreation2654]

Waiting for j20

[@SukhoyBoy4113]

P51 v su57

[@captainrogerdodger144]

waiting for the f14 v su57

[@mgaamerica9185]

Is this becoming the 5th gen version of the F-86 vs Mig15?

[@aircraftengr5763]

Can anyone tell me the difference between su 35 and su 27

[@therocinante3443]

I was watching a boxing match with some friends and the one boxer stayed inside the others' reach so he had a hard time punching. I yelled, "oh sh*t he's jamming the WEZ!" I got a lot of weird looks lol

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

And you were correct 😆 that’s exactly what he was doing

[@scotteilers3141]

Tyson used to do that all the time. Almost all his opponents had reach on him. Consequently he got a lot of gun kills.

[@debbiestimac5175]

@@scotteilers3141 Tyson : "C'mere... I got sumfin' for you. Hold this... BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!!!"

[@MrCk1234567890]

This never happened

[@therocinante3443]

@@MrCk1234567890 actually, you never happened

[@patchouliknowledge4455]

No matter what you feel about both aircrafts' performance, you can't deny that both planes look gorgeous

[@DrPotato0]

@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 internally you know its true

[@danielelombardo8196]

@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 you brave, brave boy

[@s.anthonyulibarri2488]

@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 I find your lack of faith disturbing.

[@mogusaurelius4541]

I like the Su-57, but its little vestigial tail bothers me.

[@billnu]

Agreed. The Su-57 is a sharp looking airplane

[@girlmadeofwires]

Somehow being in an aircraft as capable as the Felon doesn't change the fact that going head to head with an F-22 feels like you're in a horror movie being hunted by the main monster

[@SJstackinbodys]

Bro🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bubblenugget1335]

I would say the oppisite

[@pilotmanpaul]

Pretty sure its the same for the F-22. 😅

[@randomka-52alligatorthatis34]

I'm pretty sure everyone's going to be shitting themselves if their in the cockpit of any 5th Gen Fighter doing the "falling leaves" dogfight lol.

[@GTAVALE]

@@randomka-52alligatorthatis34 ikr lmao, theese dogfights are more about being skilled using the rudder than everything else lmao

[@baomao7243]

“Falling leaf” is the right term. I remember learning it firsthand during flight training when I was unable to fully stall (a forgiving airframe that i had not stalled “abruptly enough”). Instead of developing further into a full blown stall it’d only let you pull the plane into a “falling leaf” - slowly falling and having a slow, yaw rotation in an “almost flat spin.” (Hammerheads, though, are WAY more fun!)

[@vSilverXXProduction]

You talking about the F-22? or a different airframe

[@QualityPen]

“I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar” -Wash, from Firefly and Serenity Dude should have piloted a fighter, not a cargo ship.

[@scoobsshrooms109]

@@vSilverXXProduction notice how he didnt specify what aircraft... yea this guy might be flying some real jets we arent allowed to know about lol

[@marcusr3795]

@@scoobsshrooms109Dude casually flying NGADs but just on yt to flex on us 😂😂😂.

[@scoobsshrooms109]

@@marcusr3795 Fr bro aliens are real man expect anything at this point 😭

[@t3hjnz]

"He's, what is that, a hammerhead? Oh he's got me lockedwhatthefuck" and "F-22 doing F-22 things" were two of my favourite moments ever in your videos. Great matchup, both aircraft and pilots. Your use of pure aggression was rewarded by the Felon both times. Feels appropriate.

[@quinni2685]

I think he said "Oh he's got me locked ohitsafoxtw-"

[@rumdonkey7826]

I've been thinking that it'd be fun to see camera based G-limiters implemented. Meaning if you're pulling 9G's you can't turn your head to see your six.

[@notatroll6809]

I've been wondering about that. Would real pilots actually be able to maneuver this aggressively, and rapidly? I'm legit asking, I don't know..

[@propagandapandas]

They wouldnt be able to turn their heads in higher Gs but theyd probably have coms from wing men. And as for maneuvering this frequently there might be some GLOC if they pushed such high G maneuvering so quickly in succession.

[@fruitygranulizer540]

@@propagandapandas yup. thats why u see real fighter pilots are alot more aggressive and try to wrap the fight up in the first couple turns, as opposed to the "long-term" approach that lot of dcs pilots have (such as jamming the wez and staying in a tight one circle all the way down to the ground and then commiting to a really really long rate fight)

[@dsdy1205]

@@notatroll6809 These one circle falling leaf fights are actually a lot easier on the neck than rate fights are since you're usually way below corner speed

[@reekid0275]

This guy always finds a way to make new and exciting content

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I try my best man, thank you

[@americanpatriot4227]

Indeed he does, just like in all the fights I have seen, he finds a new tactic, a new way and the vast majority work.

[@matta4756]

The scary thing about the f22 is very few people even know what it is capable of doing . The pilots are not allowed to show the plane's capabilities at air shows

[@JordanSantana.]

Look at the new USAF trailer, it did something crazy

[@SilverUndead]

@@JordanSantana. Exactly what I said. But not only that, the F35 showed its capability too.

[@ygz_ngl]

@@JordanSantana. which video are you referring to?

[@JordanSantana.]

@@ygz_ngl USAF- Own the Sky

[@arnavthakur8056]

Same with su 57 Americans never understand actually. It's not always a nice thing to put your leg up.

[@SimonBauer]

Saw the F22 in person, thing was literally hovering mid air above us and rotated out. Feels pretty damn accurate in this video

[@sabrewolf1964]

I was stationed at Dobbins when one of the prototypes crashed due to flapperon failure

[@space0015]

@@sabrewolf1964 Plane that landed on the highway

[@bedhunter]

While being radically different from previous Sukhoi iterations, the 57 still have a very nice and reconoscible Sukhoi looks!

[@EpicureMammon]

Sukhoi by way of early 90s Transformers.

[@420BulletSponge]

Damn, the Felon just evaporated in the first round.

[@georgianfishbowl170]

popped like a plane in ksp

[@musman9853]

Most powerful 20MM of all time lol

[@Fishlord136]

*poof*

[@murphygreen8484]

Pop goes the weasel

[@yehia4638]

The fact that A10's gun didn't even do this lol

[@vicroc4]

When both opponents have supermaneuverability, you really get away from the conventional one-circle/two-circle paradigm and into something entirely alien. Interesting to see.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

"Splash one F-22." A rarely heard expression around these parts.

[@Ben-jr6vl]

Always a likely scenario when facing a felon

[@Shockwave00108]

"That was some of the best flying I've ever seen, right up to the point you got disintegrated by the F22."

[@JD-86-Eight_Zero]

07:30 Incredible I thought you had him from the point of that over rudder but he narrowly escapes a gun kill and pulls a J-Turn and sends a fox 2 straight for your face. F-22 never ceases to amaze me.

[@DaryonGaming]

7:40 man absolutely styled on you with that one, holy hell

[@TheByQQ]

Yeah it's kinda funny that he held back and made GS believe he has no more missiles and then woop, surprise

[@Tigerhawk30]

That gun kill though... In Spaceballs computer voice: "Thank you for shooting the self-destruct button"

[@ranki1392]

Sidewinder, this is the kind of videos that really have me hooked on this blessed channel

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Much love buddy, plenty more like this to come.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

"Wait, isn't the F-22 Air Force? How would Maverick get in one, he's Navy." "Hollywood writers."

[@sys3248]

A Navy pilots can transfer to Air Force or Marine but Marine or Air Force pilots can't just transfer to Navy. Navy pilots have specific skills in working within carriers which both other branches lacked.

[@Gravel1331]

@@sys3248 Pretty sure there are Marine aircraft and pilots working on Navy carriers. And they have Air Force pilots cross train onto carriers on a fairly regular basis. It's like a one year assignment.

[@joeclaridy]

@@Gravel1331 each carrier contains 1 Marine squadron in addition to all the Naval squadrons.

[@Gravel1331]

@@joeclaridy I was pretty sure it was something like that :)

[@shmevan_]

@@sys3248 Marines get carrier training, most of the time 1 of the squadrons on a carrier is a Marine squadron

[@entityeoe2285]

7:11 damn he really tried to do a 360 noscope on you.

[@bitmaster6542]

Predicting manouvers is a thing of the past with those capabilities. Reminds me more of a WWI dogfight with Triplanes than what Jets used to do when they had no thrust manouvering. This, imho, totally rewrites ACM. Love your videos !

[@michaelwicker9538]

If super-maneuverability becomes the norm, guns could come back ASAP main dog fight weapon.

[@demanischaffer]

@@michaelwicker9538 Super maneuver mfs when they pull a 15g Cobra just from the AIM-9X to loop around and splash them

[@michaelwicker9538]

@@demanischaffer yeah, the thing is super maneuverability isn't useful at high speeds, because of g limits. But after you've crossed the merge and your side winders are spent, you need to get guns on target. And that's best done at just above stall speed.

[@FullBoltOnRacing]

Sidewinder. Every time I hear you say. “F22 doing F22 things” makes me laugh so hard my wife looks at me like I need to Be in an institution

[@user-yo7ps2io8c]

Cringe

[@Imugi007]

"There's F-22 doing F-22 things." Couldn't have said it better myself!

[@CoffeeMatt10]

It’s either “F-22 doing F-22 things”, or it’s “Su-57 doing that thrust vectoring bullsh*t” 😂

[@jasoncrawford4929]

7:45 that death where you can really see the 9X launch thanks to the lowered frontal visibility of the felon. Was a really slick move by shotgun

[@jacksonandy218]

Man ya gotta love the sound of the distant explosions and missle impact

[@CoffeeMatt10]

Distant explosions - yes, it means you didn’t explode 😂 Missile impact - only if it’s your missile impacting your adversary

[@seagie382]

Don't forget the F22 has some capabilities that pilots have still been instructed not to demonstrate in allied co-op training missions or at airshows apparently

[@emerald_292]

That is one of the main reasons why I have always been an F-22 fan.

[@fqeagles21]

@@emerald_292 me too

[@pietroferrari4279]

one time i asket the pilot of the demo team if during a really high AoA pass transitioned with a flat spin the FCS was still on he said that the FCS was still on

[@fqeagles21]

@@pietroferrari4279 Awesome

[@skyhorseprice6591]

I saw a F-35 Demo where Maj. Kristen 'Beo' Wolfe pulled a...get this...17 second sustained 360° turn. That is CRAZY quick....but the thing is, I've watched a lot of F-35 demos, and she usually pulls a 20 second 360° turn. Very respectable, but if she'd have been in a 2 circle with damnear anyone and pulled a 17, she'd have won with the quickness. All of which makes me wonder if maybe Beo got a bit carried away that one time and showed too much?

[@bw9538]

I would love to see how these two planes would perform from BVR all the way into the Dogfight since they are both 5th gen

[@mattfleming86]

I feel that would give some validity to next gen fighters needing to be able to dogfight!!

[@nath9091]

F22 probably has a significant advantage in BVR with significantly better stealth by public accounts, it's designed for air superiority as opposed to Su57 multirole and the US probably has better electronics than Russia and the F22 has received electronics hardware and software upgrades. Once they get the new Meteor equivalent missiles that'll help even more.

[@myopicthunder]

@@nath9091 Once the F22 uses its radar it's just as 'visible' as any other aircraft, the Su57 has IRST so it can remain somewhat cloaked while tracking I don't know if the F22 received that upgrade. Real life scenarios would rarely have two stealth fighters blindly wandering into each other, they'd have AWACs and ground radar giving them live intel and you'd hope theres no unseen threat in the area.

[@CoffeeMatt10]

In theory, the F-22 would have an advantage given the respective radar cross-sections of each aircraft. It’s more likely to defeat any radar guided missiles than the Su-57, the Felon would have to spend energy on defending more than the Raptor, the Raptor can then close the gap with a better energy state and maintain that advantage into the dogfight.

[@rondelracing3475]

​@@nath9091 There is a lot of marketing around airplanes today. The Americans say that stealth is very important, and the Russians say that maneuverability is important. But are they so important? The AIM-120D launch range is 180km, but this is subject to launching from a maximum altitude and provided that the target does not maneuver and flies towards it. If the target begins to maneuver, the effective range drops significantly. The real efficiency I think is 40-60km. It is important to understand that rockets fly for about 10 seconds with the engine running, and then they plan, and the longer they plan, the less their efficiency. The su57 radar allows you to detect a target with an RCS equal to 1 for 400 km. The f22 level target will be counted long before the f22 enters its effective combat range. Also, the target zeroing range is not equal to the target capture range. In order to aim the missile at the target, you need to fly even closer, as a rule, this range is about 2 times lower than the target detection range. At the same time, when the target is captured, the detection station will notify that the aircraft has been captured and will begin counteraction. The real battle will go to a distance of 20-60km. And the one who launches more rockets will win. And simply put, the one who has more planes will win. A larger number of aircraft allow you to use more restraining tactics. In the air battles of India and Pakistan, even such aircraft as mig21 were a difficult target for 4th generation aircraft, because mig21 acted in conjunction with modern aircraft and received information from them in advance. I'm not sure about the effectiveness of 5th generation fighters at all. They are too expensive to maintain 2 times more expensive than 4th generation aircraft. After their flight, they need a long-term service to maintain the technology. 4th generation aircraft can make more sorties than 5th generation aircraft. The US resumed purchases of f15 for a reason. The F15/F16 bundle was incredibly effective. AWACS is too dangerous to use boldly for combat, since such air defenses as the s400 can launch missiles at 400 km, and a large plane will not have time to dodge them.

[@oddy1637]

The canopy bow on the Felon looks to be quite a disadvantage in dogfights like this.

[@profo4544]

it also doesnt have nearly good rear visibility

[@narcissus79]

@@profo4544 i guess the russians theorise Felons do all the hunting, not the being hunted

[@profo4544]

@@narcissus79 The felon has features that i like tho, like how the entire tail rudders move, like on the YF-23 and the j-20, the raptor i dont think could do this because of how there situated, only the rear parts of the fins move. Having the entire tail move is much more effective. i think the super raptors may encorporate this.

[@profo4544]

@@narcissus79 They have about 200 operating raptors, i beleive they plan on upgrading them with the f-35s stealth molded panels as opposed to the paint the raptor originally used. 200 raptors is enough to have a bunch of pretty lethal sqadrons, either 12 or 24 plane squads. I think instead of going with the original 24 plane squadrons they might lower it to 12 planes, but im not sure at all. But raptors squadrons operate in 24s i beleive. Each squadron has 24, wether all 24 are active is unknown and probably usually unlikely.

[@CoffeeMatt10]

Especially when your adversary crossed the bow and then next thing you see is a 9X booping your nose.

[@SPQRTempus]

After watching it a couple of times Shogun would wait till you got below him, then he'd perform a high alpha post stall maneuver to bring his nose to bear. If he missed he'd be stuck in a low energy state which is how you got him for two of your kills. Would love to see a Tac View review!

[@lilsmoot4488]

Iconic match up, always fun to see these two military aviation juggernauts duke it out in a good old FOX-2 engagement.

[@x7cipher7x]

Your ability to track visual and maintain perfect flight control is beyond incredible. Thanks for another great fight video!

[@idyllic.diaries2426]

A humble request brother, please fly the Su57 more ❤🙇🏼‍♂️

[@gradient2503]

It's always great when GS uploads

[@debbiestimac5175]

What a great lunchtime treat, on a stiflingly hot workday. Stayed in my nice cool office, closed the door and settled in for the show! Amazing as always Growling! 👍

[@michaelknightmustdie]

"He's out of Fox twos..." NARRATOR: He wasn't.

[@nauq6630]

The cockpit view of the Su-57 is a major disadvantage.

[@ario4671]

I don't think that's actually the su57 cockpit

[@nauq6630]

@@ario4671 What do you mean by that?

[@The90sHater]

@@ario4671 It's not 1:1 detailed recreation but if you look up the real su57 cockpit it still has the canopy bow in the way.

[@Hawkmeister_]

Yeah, I agree. Where the canopy opens makes it so it takes away of the field of view, which we saw a bit of its disadvantage at @7:40 . Just that extra second could tell you "Hey, his nose is about to aim for you!"

[@yehia4638]

Maybe but at least he still can see the raptor with no problem

[@pavelkorotkov477]

Как у нас говорится - всё зависит от прокладки между рулём и сидением.

[@user-zd3id5gj9s]

Ага, противник на 22-м ловил за счет вектора тяги, переворачивая самолёт на низкой скорости, а 57-й ни разу не применял фигуры пилотажа присущих ОВТ

[@ThroneOfBhaal]

'I am a leaf on the wind.' *loud bang* 'It's fine. I'm a leaf on the wind!'

[@vihurah9554]

Whats crazy is the su57 only just entered service and the f22s been doing fancy flat spins for 17 years already. Makes you wonder what else US R&D has cooked up in the meantime

[@lw7238]

The SU-57 is 12 years old from first flight. It just took too long to get going. Russia can't afford it.

[@jamesrichardson8484]

The F-22 first flew 24 years ago.

[@shanechambers9529]

@@jamesrichardson8484 What's up bossman?

[@uncleruckus69420]

Bro what the previous SU is just as capable as An f-22 tf are you talking about😂it’s been doing flat spins stalls and maneuvers in ways F-22 can’t

[@lw7238]

@@uncleruckus69420 Ivan, too much Wodka for you. Anything Russia claims cut that in half and then that may be close to reality.

[@superluminal.]

There's truly no better description of how the F-22 performs than "F-22 doing F-22 things."

[@TymaDem]

AKA Belkan black magic

[@hydrodrift]

This game makes War Thunder’s flying mechanics look like a children’s play ground. This game is awesome, I like how you don’t have to aim you aircraft at the enemy to fire the missile, and you have to use your head, that makes it more realistic and badass. Subbed and turned the notifis on. I just found a golden channel.

[@Jacob_Dwyer]

Caught myself thinking about the tacview breakdown, would be fun to see the attitudes and angles during the leafy gunfights. Thanks GS, pretty and entertaining.

[@casso_4974]

That second round was worth a movie

[@frenchroast1355]

Watching those thrust vectoring engines going all googly eyed was fascinating.

[@caalcb7]

F-22 vs SU-57 it's like an F-86 vs Mig-15. Both have eerily similar capabilities it's down to their pilots.

[@lanesilva9234]

@_DannyPhantom_ I would say they aren’t very accurate since the F-22s capabilities and tech is so classified.

[@purplepotato69]

@@lanesilva9234 same with the felon

[@RedboRF]

@@lanesilva9234 are you r e-tardеd? same goes with the felon.

[@dew7025]

the felon does not have any stealth so the f22 is far better

[@nathanc939]

@@dew7025 Except the Felon has excellent frontal stealth, the rest not so much.

[@aerospacenews]

I know this was posted a few months ago but I just spotted it as it was shared on a forum. Very enjoyable and really appreciate the effort you put into the little vignettes showing the engagement from outside. Given the physics of these 5th gen fighters they remind me a bit of the Expanse's (the Amazon series) space battles - and perhaps foreshadow that world.

[@Trains-With-Shane]

Shotgun sure knows how to drive that F22! That was a very enjoyable series of battles!

[@Cheiron19]

Nice match. In the third engagement where he face-shot you, it looked like he did a flat slide in the F22. It's like he ruddered the plane and it slide the back end around and he was able to point right at you. Pretty amazing . . .

[@cbg6468]

In the first round the F-22 was like " Want to see a magic trick. I'll make this Su-57 disappear"

[@ericlane3256]

4:30 incredible how tight their turn radius is. It’s about the size of the neighborhood below them

[@maximmak1991]

I think the BFM flight between the 5th gen aircraft is more than that of one-circle and two-circle, just how crazy those maneuvers were, and the flight becomes more on high aspect than the kinetic management.

[@petersmythe6462]

Do a "BVR" dogfight with these aircraft where you get Fox-3s and start further away out of detection range. No afterburners until the enemy is detected.

[@Mike_Romeo]

A BVR fight between SU-57 and F-22 is not possible. Both are stealth planes and so they are not able to seach other on radar and therefore they cant engage each other at BVR ranges.

[@TzeentchLordofChange]

@@Mike_Romeo thats not true at all, the su57 is only partial stealth

[@theamericancommie727]

@@Mike_Romeo not to mention stealth fighters are detectable at set ranges. The F-22 is stealthier and likely would detect the felon way before the felon detects the Raptor.

[@uncleruckus69420]

@@TzeentchLordofChange doesnt matter either way f-22 will Expose itself no need to jerk it off

[@Ben-jr6vl]

@@TzeentchLordofChange but also in reality su57 sensors and radar can easily detect f22

[@Falkirion]

What no game 7! Honestly love watching you fly against all the guest pilots you get on the channel. All of you know how to get the best out of your aircraft

[@naybur74]

INSANE.. just subbed this week...i've seen Maverick, and this is best SIM i've ever seen.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

welcome to the channel boss.

[@gunpo3644]

That last kill tho... absolutely gorgeous

[@MrKydaman]

Six great rounds, and some amazing flying on both sides. Loved the last round for the tie. 😄

[@JohnB-mo4kq]

This channel somehow showed up in my algorithm, don't even play the game or heard of it. I am now addicted.

[@freddie_connor9202]

Thank you for bringing back this music for the replays, so nice and relaxing to match your demeanor :)

[@IchBinPowerPaul]

It's quite clear that in the case of the F-22, it comes down not to the skill of the pilot but rather just technological prowess. One example being the first fight, where the basics of aviation are simply just ignored by the pilot. As everybody knows, the principle forces acting upon a plane are thrust, drag, lift and gravity. Obviously, the F-22 Pilot didn't scroll down far enough on the diagram to read "gravity" so they just act like it doesn't affect the plane.

[@DeeSnow97]

don't tell OPSEC i said this, but that's actually the secret of the F-22: it's just bees. the entire aircraft is made of bees, and therefore it ignores all known laws of aviation

[@Spicy_Italian_Sausage]

@@DeeSnow97 FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT

[@Silentchaosdk]

i will always cheer on the F-22 against any foe!

[@roryross3878]

Great showdown, mixing it up in the last round was perfect chef's kiss!

[@EwokEight]

So fun to watch! Really enjoyed this episode.

[@GhostVanguard]

I've been watching you on and off for a year now and dude your editing has greatly improved! Not saying it was bad but man those transitions are silky smooth

[@oz4lex676]

Watching these videos shows me there's a lot more to dogfighting than just turning and trying to put your nose on them..

[@spicydaddy2526]

so awesome seeing two aircraft at the peak of supermaneuverability do everything in their toolkit to get an edge. great fight, both pilots got some incredible shots lined up

[@MuhammadUsman-op5us]

Just seeing the two high end techs come like face to face to each other and seeing just both fighting like two beasts is just another feeling

[@GelatoThe2nd]

growling sidewinder because of u i got in dcs. I can’t thank you enough :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Always nice to hear about new people getting into DCS, I hope you’re having as much as I did/do.

[@gideonschlen4022]

Exploding like that is probably an error handling mechanism in DCS's damage system. If the damage model errors our the aircraft spontaneously combusts.

[@fim-43redeye31]

It also happens if you do enough damage. Hitting any aircraft with a Kh-66, the MiG-21's AG missile, will make it evaporate.

[@sugarking12]

What I get from these videos is that fifth gens are magic.

[@Paul_Sergeyev]

This was one of your most interesting and dense videos so far! You inspired me on an artistic Idea! Thank you and keep up the good work!

[@kingsolo6241]

It really is scary amazing how the F-22 can just turn at 0 speed and fight so well.

[@slate4687]

Go look the 2006 Atlantic City F22 Demo...its nutz!

[@formallyknownasj.a.2074]

GS… Sorry brotha, not that i want to see you lose, but I have to always root for the home team…

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Understandable brother 😆

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

It’s cool to see your skill growth over the last few years. You seem much more confident and aggressive with guns.

[@Terra-Quattuor]

"F22 doing F22 things" will say, that move was a gorgeous one, well tracked with your head. Awesome visual there.

[@thatoneraotguy2590]

2:50 i think it either hit the ammunition hold, causing all the shots in the cannon to explode, or like the afterburner and the engines just exploded, causing the whole plane to explode (?), or maybe one of the missiles, causing both to explode

[@xules2139]

I was thinking he may have taken out the pilot. ?

[@thatoneraotguy2590]

@@xules2139 The pilot DID die, but because of the explosion, not the other way around, because the moment of death was when the F-22 had its nose already pointing further back from the cockpit. For now what I think is the most believable thing is that one of the bullets hit one of the missiles, annihilating the aircraft.

[@jul1anuhd]

Respect to the SU-57 for keeping up so well with the Raptor (in dogfights). But you should be aware that in this video 75% of the SU-57 jets in the world were shot down.

[@Error-33]

im p sure not all 75% was shot down but some crashed still though doesnt change the fact that it isnt a big threat just wanna give some info cuz i got nothin to do with my life except research about aircraft

[@YourLocalMuslim]

only four su-57's got produced in 2020 : / and one crashed

[@SukhoyBoy4113]

It's 2022, the thing is in serial production

[@Paul_Sergeyev]

What? What is the source?

[@freenickor]

bruh EVERYONE he meant "in the video", not in the real world

[@dbrady1966]

I can’t help but watch this channel for hours

[@benjaminmorgan1562]

Oh man these have been a real treat in such quick succession!!

[@GhostlyTurtle]

Awesome video! You're right about the Felon callsign, I've always felt like NATO has been better at giving opposition aircraft cool names than their own. Fulcrum is still my favorite fighter callsign.

[@jamesrichardson8484]

There are only so many two syllable words that start with F. Felon was going to come up sooner or later. I'm just wondering what's going to get stuck with Fishfinder.

[@bravo6959]

@@jamesrichardson8484 or Femboy

[@ghostfacegrillah7891]

@@jamesrichardson8484 Something of theirs already got stuck with “fishbed” so you aren’t far off 😂

[@renascitur7051]

I feel like the f-22 knew how to execute falling leaf maneuvers more which caused you to lose for the other rounds.

[@ShionWinkler]

"F-22, doing F-22 things" best quote of the video🤣

[@saquist]

I've never seen Growling so on his heels like this...moar please!!!

[@wisuwatbhosri9971]

I've been following you for quite some time. This is one of the most entertaining fight I've seen. You didn't even mention "thrust vectoring b*****it once here.

[@hanschristianben505]

great to see you revisit this 5th gen death match again, much thanks 😎😎 P.S. I really wanted to ask what’s the title of that BGM you added in your vid at the very end... been looking for it for a while now... much thanks again!

[@antoniotabboterrorist5992]

Your vids are soooo AWSOME, thanks GS

[@desertfresh3740]

That was some beautiful flying, holy cow

[@abigfish1620]

As evenly matched as they appear to be, I think in a real world scenario the F22 would come out on top more often than not, simply due to pilot training. US pilots get 2 or 3 times as much time in the cockpit than Russian pilots, and get taught dog fighting skills. I think if you put a squadron of US F22's up against ta squadron of Russian 57s, the Russians would get wiped out.

[@mathgasm8484]

also it seems Russians do not maintain the equipment as well so failures can occur.

[@firestorm517]

While I don't disagree with you, I highly doubt you would see them merge and go in to a dogfight. Would be a BVR fight I'd say

[@grug6682]

@@firestorm517 They'd have to merge because the BVR missiles wouldn't track very well

[@hresvelgr7193]

It also helps that there are about 15 F-22s for each SU-57

[@lobster838]

I mean, if we're talking real world then we should probably acknowledge the fact that there isn't even a full squadron of su-57s in service, which would make such a scenario unlikely to come about

[@gvii]

That was neat. Never seen a plane just get deleted like that, lol. Love to know what the parameters are for that and what else is capable of being just removed from the game, hahaha....

[@sebastiancabrera5722]

So glad you made this video! I love anything related to aviation, especially f-22s

[@2Links]

Nice, a reverse of one of your biggest videos. Excited for it

[@Geeko170]

One thing I would love to see is a scenario of a “realistic” fight between an F22 and a SU57.

[@topbanana.2627]

100%

[@HOLAATODOS-os5te]

What a stupid comment!

[@AugustSchroif]

Realistic fight is when they never meet each other?

[@kasparkannel3108]

A realistic fight would be one where the SU-57 gets immediately shot out of the sky (assuming any of them are even flight worthy lmao) and the F-22 is never detected

[@topbanana.2627]

@@kasparkannel3108 avionics expert here lmao

[@BlueCation]

It's not the plane, it's the pilot and in this field, GS is the best

[@fqeagles21]

Shotgun too

[@JCoffTopic]

“It’s like two leaves fighting each other” that’s such a good quote lol

[@billnu]

Bravo on the sixth round tactics.

[@aeon5566]

i like how the F22's 20mm gun completely disintegrated the Su57. So realistic lol.

[@joshburgin4379]

Esp with how many new subscribers you have and the increased traffic post top gun, it may be worth clarifying more directly that these are user made mods rather than official modules going forward

[@himneeshchowdhary820]

remember, its never the plane, its the pilot!

[@adqz8851]

Even if it’s F14 tomcat vs su23?

[@therocinante3443]

How about an A-10 vs an F-22?

[@rickythomas9698]

@@therocinante3443 f22 for sure unless you are at A10s nose, then you what happens "BRRRRRT". missiles would probably be useless against f22.

[@himneeshchowdhary820]

@@adqz8851 yes, i believe you can shoot down a F22 with a wright flyer using a glock in your hand.

[@adqz8851]

@@himneeshchowdhary820 what about a pea shooter?

[@rbs1997]

That round 6 manoeuvre was a piece of art

[@eduardocalle240]

Awesome video GS!! the best Raptor-Felon fight in your channel!! And is the first time ever I see someone desintegrated with guns hahaha soooo epic!!! I love it thanks for such a great job!!