6 Atheists vs 1 Secret Christian | Odd Man Out

[@snsdtwinkle]

I’m an atheist and to all their questions I would’ve been like “I don’t know, I don’t care”

[@LL-tr5et]

same lol

[@AshG321M]

typical

[@singbin]

hey nice profile and name. its so rare to see any SNSD fans here...

[@zotaninoron3548]

Naw, you wouldn't. Because you would have had a financial reason to remain in the game and you know an answer like that would have gotten you voted out first round for not saying anything useful.

[@snsdtwinkle]

@@singbin thank you. Been a fan for 11 years now. I’m old lol

[@martynalipinska4104]

Just a reminder: you don’t need to read books about atheism to be an atheist.

[@Emma-we5gv]

Exactly!!

[@martynalipinska4104]

You don’t need to know who Richard Dawkins is to be an atheist either. It’s good to know, but your knowledge about atheism shouldn’t define you. We all have different paths that lead us to atheism and all of them definitely involved self-reflection and that’s great and enough.

[@mantabsekali920]

Yeah just have a bad upbringing with zealot 😂

[@melgibson2930]

thats what i thought wth

[@efedemirtas]

@@martynalipinska4104 amen to that! :)

[@Lazerdimsum]

“NINA NINA NINA NINA” - Evan. I heard that before

[@peppersgone5044]

LMAOO

[@aevin7599]

lolll

[@sataniclesbian365]

LMAO

[@amosbehavedcalm]

NINA!

[@amosbehavedcalm]

NINA! SHOULD'VE BEEN BLAC CHYNA

[@narcissamalfoy6789]

„She couldn‘t name any atheist works“ excuse me what? Being an atheist just means that you don‘t believe in a god. You don‘t have to educate yourself on atheism to be one.

[@boymcfacto5832]

RIP Helen McCrory

[@ParkerFloris]

I didn’t even know there were Atheist works 😄

[@mr16325]

You shouldn’t have beliefs that you aren’t educated in

[@narcissamalfoy6789]

@@mr16325 Yes, atheism is just not believing in one or multiple gods. It‘s the other way round.

[@mr16325]

@@narcissamalfoy6789 right, if you have a belief about something, you should be educated in that opinion before you spread or talk about it

[@ccarleerose]

Being an atheist just means you dont think a god is real, it's not a replacement for religion, because it isnt one

[@mike4space]

I have a question though what do some atheists feel about what happens to people after they pass away?

[@dyinginsidelol]

@@mike4space it’s an inevitable part of life. We cherish them in our memory and appreciate that we had the opportunity to meet them, be a part of them, etc. some atheists, instead of grieving at their funeral, they actually hold a cherishing party about how grateful they were to ever have them

[@mike4space]

@@dyinginsidelol that’s understandable.. what do they think will happen when people die?

[@dyinginsidelol]

@@mike4space irreligious people, not necessarily atheists, just believe our consciousness is lost to the decomposition of our physical body. It’ll be like before we were ever born.

[@poocrayon4588]

For many people it is tho - they “convert” to aethism. Look at communists for an example. A lot of aethists r very triggered by other people’s belief in God

[@malaksoliman4839]

I’m really confused these atheists are literally talking about Atheism like it’s a religion which basically contradicts the concept of Atheism

[@tonyflamingosucks6590]

I don’t think so, I feel like they were talking about it as a lifestyle. Maybe they talked about it like that to show Christians they’re not that different from them

[@supernatural5354]

I'm an atheists and I thought the same thing. However, I guess if you are gonna do this episode you have to debate like its a religion but even then the things they were saying were really odd to me.

[@nina-py9hg]

as an atheist, i agree

[@DragonFanngg]

Absolutely not. Imagine a bunch of guys who're not into sports discussing their lifestyle and the routine they follow to stay fit. Similarly, this conversation brings to light the experiences these people have as an atheist and the positions they have about their beliefs or lack thereof. This is important because I wouldn't describe the two tarot/horoscope guys as atheists because being an atheist entails that we do not believe in unsubstantiated claims and the stuff those guys believe in not only lack any the evidence but also goes against the scientific methods. Some people really need to consider their positions before they start identifying as an atheist.

[@tonyflamingosucks6590]

@@DragonFanngg that example is great :) I’ll add on to it. Imagine a bunch of guys who play football all the time, it wouldn’t be very weird if they were to get into a conversation about their favorite fitness authors. Similarly, the atheists here asked about each other’s favorite books about atheist life (most atheists should read books about things like the meaning of life because we usually have existential crises’ about the fact that one day we’re gonna die and have nothing else after that)

[@lindsey386]

I consider myself an atheist but I would have been voted off immediately as I would have not have been able to answer any of their questions. Lmao what literature? Didn't know we had to be reading literature to not believe in god lol

[@Emma-we5gv]

IKR I’m an Agnostic/Atheist and I don’t read anything abt it 😭

[@ramiromunoz1161]

Sameeee

[@mantabsekali920]

Just say any holy book 😂

[@gabimgmg]

exactlyy that’s what i was thinking

[@MalenaOlmedo]

Same 🙃🤭

[@zahraf.s3140]

I dont know why they're treating this as though atheism is a religion??? That kinda defeats the point.

[@harrygarris6921]

Generally people in America who label themselves athiest are a part of a community and interested in athiest philosophy and basically treat it like a religion. People who don't care about the existence of a god are just agnostic.

[@kaylajaftha9908]

I'm not even atheist and they got me going huh?

[@xcraetor9276]

​@@harrygarris6921 Trust me most of us don't. I don't know where they found these people but I'm mostly friends with non religious people and no one acts like this

[@harrygarris6921]

@@xcraetor9276 Okay well I know agnostic and athiest basically mean the same thing but I've heard people who just don't have a faith referred to more as agnostic and people where they consciously don't believe that a God exists referred to as athiest

[@lovewinseveryday]

Also, identifying with what they don't like and what believe is awful, and as they focus on that, they become kind of not that nice. I thought I was an atheist but maybe not. Would rather not identify myself with this vibe

[@IWantToRideMyBike]

Me, an atheist, not reading any atheist writings. I just simply don’t believe. I don’t have to go out of my way to read things to reinforce my lack of belief

[@hushpuppy2]

yes you do

[@MissIshX]

I agree with you. Life gives us experiences sometimes and we don’t always need books!

[@damianvalk2208]

ikr

[@greenkontora]

It seems that there is little part inside of you that wants to believe even if you don't.

[@simply_nebulous]

Exactly, this video was so weird for me.

[@CJ-gf1zx]

The irony of atheism being treated like a religion here is so poetic

[@MsDudette21]

its cuz its a competition asking questions regarding atheism. so they are asking questions atheists might know. ik of the pastafarian thing, some atheist celebs, levels of atheism (agnostic, positive atheism), but idk any books. being an atheist and accepting evolution and science is part of it too. not sure why this annoyed people when religious people are the ones who act like this all the time

[@gem6105]

You’d be surprised how many atheists are like this

[@madaz952]

@@gem6105 Maybe in the States but in Europe i actually never encountered someone like that (Not that i've met every European Atheist)

[@MrEt894]

@@madaz952 no one acts like this is real life but people no matter the religious belief argue insanely hard on the internet.

[@sophiaredwood5825]

I found it very interesting when one of them was trying to support their case for being an atheist by saying that the Christian community persecuted them. I guess the term “persecuted” isn’t exclusive to Christians, but the way she used it in the opposite context was intriguing.

[@michellestella7477]

As an agnostic atheist I definitely don't feel the need to deconvert anyone. That would be just as pushy as a religious person trying to convert me. Faith, or lack thereof, is something very personal. Although I don't mind having civilised discussions about religion.

[@briannasmith7746]

I agree with you but I also see where deconverters are coming from. A lot of them used to be religious and in their shedding of that they feel more whole as individuals. It makes sense that they would want others to have that experience as well. I’m definitely not a fan of the you can’t prove god exists so you shouldn’t believe in him but I see no harm in challenging the views of someone if it could have a positive impact on them in some way.

[@juanperret7044]

just being an open atheist is good enough. I know that for me the reason I was able to admit it is because some people I knew were atheist. It didn't really seem like I had a choice before that. People need to see it's a valid choice and that it doesn't make you a demon lol

[@saigie3908]

@@briannasmith7746 In the converters defense some were taught by ppl who were very legalistic so they can be very harsh, when that’s all they’ve been taught their whole lives. And some converters (not the forceful ones) came from broken pasts and found God or anything they worship, and wanted others to have the same experience as them. (The reason I’m replying is for ppl to see both sides of deconverters/converters. Not trying to hate)

[@briannasmith7746]

@@saigie3908 thank you for your addition! I agree both sides are important and love the reminder that not all converters are forceful, sometimes that’s hard to remember from all the stories people tell. Conversion/deconversion is typically from a good place and doesn’t have to be toxic at all

[@saigie3908]

@@briannasmith7746 Yes, I agree. There’s bad ppl in every group. Have a bless day ♥️

[@lydiakarnick1170]

“I’m voting for _ because she couldn’t name any atheist literature” tf? I’m atheist and haven’t read one speck of literature about it...

[@sonakshisrivastava1008]

Ikr...I was so pissed at Katie's elimination due to that.m

[@miteshkaladi8578]

Maybe you should , they are interesting!!

[@momomirzoph9485]

I mean i haven't either but really do believe that I should ...not gonna trap my self in my limited experience

[@kerstinjernberg5505]

@@miteshkaladi8578 like 85% of sweden is atheist, do they think everyone there reads about it al the time?

[@miteshkaladi8578]

@@kerstinjernberg5505 I just said they should, never said they do!!

[@user42100]

Bruh atheist just means you don’t believe in a higher power like god. You don’t need books and stuff to know that

[@1337-i3v]

@Rahim Ahmed I don't think it's based on "taking things personally" only or at all, it's just so many people who can't pull up some random book about atheism, yet these people can. Except? So someone or more voted that person out...

[@armysean8915]

@Rahim Ahmed he's not taking it personally he's saying it dosen't make sense for example did you stop believing in santa because a book told you to or because you believe that yourself? (This is just an example)

[@da_vi_da]

If you grew up in a strict religious household and community and are trying to deconvert reading books about atheists that were previously religious helps because religius trauma is real. It gives you a sense of belonging. That being said you don’t need a book but some people seek books or articles and etc to help themselves through the religious trauma

[@Griffen.]

"What's one of your favorite atheist texts?" Whut. One of the best parts of being an atheist is not having to read long, preachy books.

[@aus-li]

Lmao, I agree. Although it doesn’t hurt in reading about other opinions and definitions.

[@violetraven8323]

Oh mood. Like I ain’t got time or mental energy to read long books even if wanted to. So I’d probably be outed lmao

[@Drew-qp1pf]

Are u insinuating that the Bible is just a long preach book ?

[@Artiistick]

@@Drew-qp1pf no there not.

[@나쁜년-x1f]

@@Drew-qp1pf pretty much

[@Atem_in_the_streets]

I feel like being the pushy atheist who tries to deconvert others is just as bad as the pushy religious person trying to convert people.

[@davetwo7]

Exactly

[@carlar2301]

can you say that louder for the people in the back

[@Emma-we5gv]

I agree!! We should not deconvert nor convert people who wish not to be

[@mridul7639]

Yup, I never do that. Voicing your opinions in a nice way is fine but being aggressive or demeaning isn't okay. Also I think a lot of people find comfort in having faith so it's conflicting anyway. But religion has done so much harm too, no doubt about it.

[@Aki-gb8gm]

Yeah, I grew up Atheist but i still respect that other people have different believes than me, as long as they leave me alone with that lol

[@magista222]

they lowkey lame as hell for reading up on atheism & then expecting everyone else to be well versed😭😭😭

[@Sebbir]

Yeah that feels like a christian thing to do

[@anthonygarza1500]

@@Sebbir Christian is a religion tho

[@Sebbir]

@@anthonygarza1500 im aware

[@samueltrinh3850]

@@anthonygarza1500 LMAO! The idea went right over your head there, bud.

[@RedfishThatICaughtIsMyPfp]

Lame as what?

[@zombieman34]

Joey: I’m an atheist Also Joey: Looks like Jesus and is wearing cross earrings

[@izzy-qx6kq]

Atheists can still wear cross necklaces and earrings

[@Zythus07]

Just like because someone wears Chinese tattoos, doesn't mean they're communists.

[@thefrenchbaldeagle3138]

@@Zythus07 or are they, red scare part 3

[@taggamer335]

@@izzy-qx6kq yeah but tbf, it's very amusing.

[@notjesuz755]

Lol he do be looking a bit like Jesus, but also some religion don't allow brothers and sisters to wear any sort of accessory that contributes towards a God.

[@gee1917]

as an atheist it’s not like i’m HARDCORE “no religion” i just live life without being religious

[@patrik6872]

literally, it's not even a part of my daily life, these people are weird

[@MsDudette21]

@@patrik6872 they're playing a game trying to weed out the christian. so of course they ask questions asking what they know about atheism. It doesnt mean they revolve their lives around it

[@minetaminour5356]

My family and relatives are so religious and I actually not into any of those thing but they still push me to do all those like I don't like being near god and do all those religious stuffs I feel like those are more like waste of money than felling lively 😑😒

[@ixazalvoh7793]

living life without being religious is not atheism. you are just confused and you didn’t make any searches, you didn’t even try to find a meaning in life and you straight up go “yup i guess i’m an atheist because i’m not christan/muslim/budist etc. it’s not working like that. making searches does not make it a religion. atheism is a philosophical term, kind of a belief. you believe that there is no god. you believe that you are not believing. if you have no idea about universe and you are escaping to think about it you are not an atheist you are just lost. when a believer attacks you or something you should say someting rational and defend your opinions if that’s necessary. i mean, atheism is really misunderstood you guys just be so lazy to think about universe and suddenly call yourself atheists. i think you don’t even know what you believe. that sucks.

[@gee1917]

@@ixazalvoh7793 uh i believe that there is no “mighty powerful being” that controls anything. i’m not lost. i don’t need to “find” something. definition of atheist “a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of god or gods” that describes me. i am an atheist

[@betsymartinez3773]

You don’t need to read a book to be an atheist. I’ve read ZERO books and I base my opinions on my own personal experiences and how I view the world.

[@ohmyohasparagus441]

Same

[@brandonprice1301]

those who do not believe in Jesus will suffer eternal damnation, you don't have to believe me, you shall soon see for yourselves.

[@user-lu4xp7iv8c]

@@brandonprice1301 damnation my ass

[@swampymender4400]

@@user-lu4xp7iv8c I laughed a solid 5 mins at your reply

[@Sebowsky_]

​@@brandonprice1301 If that's true, then Jesus is a douchebag. Like, seriously? Making people suffer eternally just because they don't believe in something that isn't even confirmed to be real? C'mon dude, that's not cool.

[@miaacaat]

Why on earth would you need to read atheist literature to be atheist?

[@spritepepsiplushes8353]

69th like

[@chilli-iceolive-abode2447]

So now people act like being an atheist or agnostic is almost like a religion itself. Jeez why so serious and deep. Some of these were the most religious non religious people I've ever seen.

[@handsanitizer2457]

Being an atheist just means you don't have a God, there are many atheists who are bhuddists or even spiritual

[@chilli-iceolive-abode2447]

@@handsanitizer2457 Fair enough. In my day to day life I guess we just use the term atheist to mean we don't believe in God and we don't think about things like deconverting people etc etc.

[@K.2.K]

I mean it’s a competition. It would’ve been boring to be like “oh you don’t believe in god? Ok you’re good”. They have to rely on stereotypes to play the game

[@jgpo31]

Turns out it's not religion that ruins humans but just humans themselves that are tribal beings.

[@Ayveh]

Right! I believe in God yet don't act NOTHING like that... I haven't read the bible in a while nor see it as something you have to do in order to believe yet these people are acting like you must in order to be atheist.

[@actuallyjendaya]

Nina: *breathes* Evan: uhhh....I think i'll vote for Nina

[@AxxLAfriku]

WARNING I am the unprettiest human YTer worldwide. Take the hint, dear act

[@markhtrc2174]

am I the only one who thought that was hilarious?

[@unknownwarrior5672]

@Queen queen it was pretty funny lmao

[@xenoshunn8965]

Tbf it was kinda suspicious she thought Dawkins was a "theorist" despite having read his work, the man's a biologist lol

[@data4289]

She was so annoying.

[@traumainducing3529]

Bro atheistism ain't that deep...we just don't believe in god

[@DracoGangLive]

Bro most religious ppl I know aren't that deep. We just believe in (a) god/s

[@Watmancro]

No. Atheism is the belief that there is no god. Agnosticism is the belief, that there’s no way of knowing whether there is a god. You can’t believe in god and still claim to be an atheist, it’s the exact opposite. Unless you’re pastafarian.

[@spoon4956]

@@Watmancro atheism is a lack of belief not a belief itself

[@spoon4956]

@@Yuna-q7o do you even know what a athiest is? A athiest is someone who doesn't believe in a god. Someone can't believe in God but also be a athiest. A agnostic is when someone isn't sure that a god exist. I don't know where you got that claim from

[@grey.2663]

@@Yuna-q7o atheism is not believing in a god and agnosticism is not being sure about god existing

[@Uliburgh22]

I guess I’m not an atheist, because I didn’t read any atheist literature

[@chelseygarrett4221]

😂 right

[@MorbiusBlueBalls]

there is nothing like 'atheist literature'. what they call atheist literature is philosophical point of view of the world without sky daddy involved.

[@ieatbananaswiththepeel4782]

@@MorbiusBlueBalls sky daddy

[@sandpiperr]

@@MorbiusBlueBalls Also the ramblings of a bunch of self-important atheists who'll later turn out to be lowkey white supremacists, so...not missing out on much!

[@atmreads]

Hot take: Being pushy about deconversion is just as bad as being pushy about conversion. You shouldn't force people out of religion just because you don't have a religion, especially if they are happy in their religion. I also don't think anyone should be pushed into religion if they don't want to be pushed into it.

[@barbs8019]

definitely. it makes me uncomfortable when some1 tries to deconvert me and i know it makes others feel uncomfortable when some1 tries to convert them.

[@erinlissman5278]

Yes

[@poocrayon4588]

A lot of atheists are very arrogant about it (and other things). Like grown up teenage edgelords. So some people believe in God? Get over it.

[@sneakerhead6625]

yeah i only help convert people who are struggling with their own beliefs, as a way to help guide them onto a path they feel comfortable with

[@barbs8019]

@@poocrayon4588 ikr

[@ferrycruise7104]

Friend: *grieving* Katie: read more philosophy

[@izzy7093]

LOLL i did not like her vibe

[@rhubiks8430]

whats wrong with that

[@sophiam.2395]

@Cringe Lord the past troll who hates trolls it sounded silly and irrelevant when she said it but that actually really helped me find meaning in a dark and empty time

[@rhubiks8430]

@Cringe Lord the past troll who hates trolls philosophy also encompasses existenalism, nihilism, pessimism, ect

[@ingrid-vi4qk]

this part cracked me up

[@sharono6592]

Why was Evan so obsessed with Nina 😂😭

[@begood4786]

I know 😂😂😂😂😂 he wanted her OUT! 🤣🤣

[@chaiboix]

ikr! he got me mad! EVAN IS IRRITATING

[@richboy81]

OBSESSED!!!

[@yeameow]

literally it was weird 😭😭😭 so glad they kicked him out

[@loganarnoldkicks4321]

Fish Girl (from Cut) number 2 😂

[@epicgamerchannel6230]

I like how they talk about religion as 'baloney' and 'ascientific' and then go on to talk about star signs and astrology

[@DiamanteDea]

Agreed.. Buutttt several people believe in both

[@annalinde1381]

Um there were both, truth seeking science affirms and astrologists. But the difference here is, one has a base that has been proven to exist through many senses, where religions with senseless gods don't.

[@epicgamerchannel6230]

@@annalinde1381 i might've read that wrong, but there is no proof of merit in starsigns. You could argue that some things suggest that there is merit, but that could be applied to basically every religion that exists

[@miranda.cooper]

Well, they're atheists... but not skeptics xD

[@thelonewanderer4084]

Literally sometimes I feel like the only true atheist lol

[@elias6113]

I’m honestly glad the first girl was voted out at the beginning after the guy with the long hair asked ‘’how do you guys feel about deconverting people?’’ And she responded with ‘’ooooh i love it’’

[@basicskellie]

Fr, it shows that she LOVES converting people

[@elias6113]

EmoTrinityEnthusiast ?

[@user-me8hy8ew4o]

@@elias6113 he means that when she lied about loving to deconvert people she actually showed that she loves to do so, just with her religion (converting)

[@klaiellordez2054]

The guy with the long hair loves Deconverting people as-well, so I don’t see how that’s any better.

[@sonofaquack6987]

@@klaiellordez2054 well at least he didn't jump in at the first sound of it so energetically. But both are annoying.

[@ygerman1539]

They made being atheist feel like a religion lol, so weird.

[@mixissariya5906]

ikr

[@Rosie-ww6xj]

@@adrianna0.049 atheism is the lack of religious beliefs aha, its like the opposite of religion

[@mallory6599]

@@adrianna0.049 that’s like someone asking what your job is, and you replying “unemployed”

[@Solidude4]

@@Rosie-ww6xj No, atheism is the lack of belief in God. It's actually possible, though rarer, to be an atheist and still be religious.

[@tiffanybian4743]

@@mallory6599 nah bad analogy, i would compare it to not being restrained with a 9-5 job. You live your life not by a book but the way you want to.

[@juliannaevierivera]

“Name a book you’ve read about atheism” Me, atheist for 9 years:

[@isaacanderson971]

Graham Oppy is one of my favorite writers and there are many others

[@ali-ut3xf]

i've been an atheist for 17 years and i froze

[@juliannaevierivera]

@@isaacanderson971 cool but I simply will not read it. For me at least, the book was part of the problem. I’m not idolizing anything or anyone and don’t care to read about what the absence of religion means. I will just live it instead 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@isaacanderson971]

@@juliannaevierivera I agree you aren’t idolizing anything . It’s only for philosophical insight you aren’t obligated to do anything besides die. I was just trying to show you a nice author who enjoys discussing About philosophy of religion and arguments for and against religious positions and views .

[@CamiilaLu]

Well I mean, I would count the bible. Ironically, that gave me more reasons to be an atheist 😂

[@MMKandSSK]

the second Emily said 'if you're open to hearing about atheism I am down to tell you all about it', I knew she was the mole. it's spoken like a true christian, making athiesm sound like a belief system when it's the opposite, an absence of belief

[@spilledsalt]

But also, every single person in this video was trying to make atheism seem like a belief system.

[@tvbnine793]

Yea like I understand that atheism isn't a religion, but a lot of atheists like in this video love to shove it in people's faces like it is

[@talete7712]

@@spilledsalt how? they simply said they read books about it, it doesn’t mean they are portraying it as a belief system

[@Norrieification]

You wouldn’t think it listening to this group though. “Katie couldn’t name any atheist works!” Actually anything in the atheist literature discussion. “What type of atheist are you?”. “If a loved one dies, they should read philosophy”. “I do taro, and follow the horoscope, I’m a Taurus son, I’m a Leo sun” (to be fair, some called that one out, but two of five being into astrology??)

[@nicktheswampert1646]

“Straight up atheist” was really suspicious right off the bat. She should’ve gone with the crowd and said agnostic.

[@laurenlewis5907]

Yeah

[@tsunami3963]

She also said "love it" when they asked about deconvertion, and then changed her answer a little when it was her turn to talk

[@mikelounge4325]

I disagree, if I was an agnostic, I would not have participated in the video, as I would have thought they were looking for atheists. Maybe it's different in America, but in Theology in the UK I was taught that there is theism, agnosticism, and atheism, with agnosticism being undecided/in the middle, I would not categorise them together, as I feel that is unfair on all three parties, it's almost like defining agnosticism as 'an atheist in the closet', which agnosticism is not. Side note, I thought it was Katie, but damn when I noticed Joey's cross earrings I thought I had him! Baffles me why he would wear them as an atheist, he must have got them as a present from his parents 😂

[@juliannaevierivera]

@@mikelounge4325 agnostic is a branch of atheism like how there are different branches of Christianity who believe varying degrees of the same thing - Methodist, Catholic etc.

[@mikelounge4325]

@@juliannaevierivera Yeah, that's where there is a differentiation with the definitions. I was taught agnosticism was someone who neither believed nor disbelieved in a god, whereas an atheist is someone who does not believe in a god. A perfect agnostic (as if there ever could be such a thing as perfect) in terms of the definition I learnt would be someone who was perfectly in the middle, and so it would not be fair on theists to put all the agnostics in the branch or 'camp' of atheism, as the perfect agnostic would be as close to theism as they were to atheism. It's all just language games, of course.

[@brucelectro2761]

Emily’s “Straight-up atheist” and “Deconverting people? Love it” definitely gave her away. I don’t think she understands us very well.

[@Emma-we5gv]

Ikr!! She definitely acted how SHE thought Atheists acted and she was veryyyy wrong...

[@infernalsunflower8435]

Atheists hate those who try to convert us, so why would WE try to turn them atheist as well? Its just hypocritical...

[@hellosir4682]

As soon as I heard "love it!" I knew it was her. Too obvious.

[@janyia3388]

She was an atheist herself so false. I think she was just nervous

[@Emma-we5gv]

@@obiajulumgbechi I mean she got voted out the first round, so she didn’t act like one the best 💀

[@TrophyCase88]

bruh I'm a atheist and I haven't done like 90% of the stuff these people have done

[@abraham4091]

The devil is waiting for you Sorry man

[@justasillylilboy2517]

@@abraham4091 can’t wait, I knew there was a reason I was atheist ! !

[@deobimoomoo]

@@abraham4091 fun fact I don’t believe in the devil neither. Stop wasting your time. 😂

[@abraham4091]

@@deobimoomoo wasting my time? Uhhh well it's not a big deal if I wasted 20 seconds of my life writing a little sentence

[@sirlancelet9167]

@@abraham4091 except the devil doesn't exist 😉

[@jpm5042]

Riya was spot on “I feel like astrology is as irrational as believing in god.” So bizarre for people to think Christianity makes no sense and then claim that your birthday somehow affects your life and personality.

[@astraeusgodofthestars676]

Because it does...

[@JBSkits123]

@@astraeusgodofthestars676 If you believe that its cool but don't insult my beliefs

[@jean_etcetera]

Well, I mean. My birthday do affects my life... it was the day I started having a life to begin with 😂

[@astraeusgodofthestars676]

@@JBSkits123 did I?

[@astraeusgodofthestars676]

@brooke doeee P.R.E.A.C.H 🏆

[@datsko6339]

I knew it was Emily right away. "What's your opinion on deconverting people?" Emily: "I love it!" like, wtf? no

[@crazedpsycho8334]

I felt second hand embarrassment when she said that lmao

[@jasperw.7930]

It's exactly what a christian believes an atheist would say

[@forpurposes3168]

@@jasperw.7930 exactly

[@abcdefg2174]

@@jasperw.7930 I don't think so lol, she was probably nervous

[@edgardocerda4045]

Also, when she's eliminated: I think "I was being too friendly" like... wtf

[@madisyn_reed]

nina: i am an atheist joey: NAME EVERY BOOK ABOUT ATHEISM EVER WRITTEN IN THE UNIVERSE

[@annalinde1381]

I think he was trying dynamic tactics, which ended up working. There are thousands of atheist works dating back to 800 bce

[@aldcwaterfall9218]

do we have a new erin???

[@ramisubora8360]

I mean he just asked her to name one just a single one and she also did name Dawkins like can't you remember any of his books come on

[@captainxcast]

When you have a moment, look up the “strawman” fallacy :)

[@Random-sk6hm]

@@captainxcast you're educate I see

[@ARW8899]

As a Christian, I knew it was Emily in the first round. She talked about people 'hearing about atheism' and using 'hearing' like that is very Christian to me, eg hearing the Good news or hearing about Jesus. We do use a lot of specific wording sometimes haha. Really enjoyed this episode.

[@mikaelav8964]

SAME I CAUGHT THAT

[@inua6566]

I just thought it was Emily because her story about the boyfriend seemed off.

[@ann-kd7cz]

“okay so that round was horrifying” same riya

[@queenoftheslums3714]

joey: how would you console an atheist friend after they had lost a loved one? katie: just deal with it and read more philosophy. ... wtf

[@ravenmwa8105]

She probably won't say the exact words she means don't go to religion probably lol but that was strange

[@tatianavargicova2074]

To be fair, I wouldn’t come with decent answer, if asked on the spot. However, after thinking about it... At least they lived long and fulfilling life./ At least they didn’t suffer./ I hope to achieve as much in my life as they did./ They were most fortunate to have you in your life./They will be always remembered./ Their didn’t live for nothing - we will spread their message.

[@ComedyGlor]

Ikr lmao she seems very bitter. Her examples of why she doesn't like Christianity were also very extreme to the point where I thought she was the mole

[@MercurialMoon]

I don't think thats what she's saying. she meant that we shouldn't avoid our grief by turning towards something that isn't real. we have to accept and face our griefs. that's the first step of healing.

[@novisaganesan]

@@MercurialMoon that is true, but I don't think that she has the right to tell her friend not to turn to religion for consolation, people should have the choice to turn to whatever makes them feel better when undergoing grief. if turning to Christianity, Hinduism, Buddism, etc makes her friend cope better she should support them regardless and not invalidate their choices.

[@drarryalley5532]

evan : riya youre kinda quiet also evan *didnt say a word during legit 10 minutes*

[@umalilia]

except to criticize nina

[@user-lu4xp7iv8c]

Why he kept coming after Nina 💀

[@poop4647]

He really gave 10th grade humanities teacher vibes

[@laislyra5512]

I legit thought he was the mole

[@averxyn]

i didn’t realize atheism could be so serious and complicated. i’m an atheist because i believe in science and feel no reason for religion

[@s.a1233]

You know that being religious doesnt mean not believing in science right?

[@averxyn]

@@s.a1233 hehe yes don’t worry i get that i just mean when i think of what will happen when i die or the way i think the world was created as opposed to how for example christians would answer those questions

[@random_d00d]

That's exactly why I'm an atheist, I had no idea there were these atheist books and stuff that you had to read lol.

[@samsingh43]

@@s.a1233 😂🤣🤣 believing in science?? both are opposite

[@aus-li]

@@averxyn Were you always an atheist?

[@carlose5751]

"let me talk you about Atheism..." That phrasing sounds like a CHRISTIAN.

[@tyrealmal2004]

I'm tempted to just quote "This is the oppressors language, yet I need it to talk to you," but perhaps it would be more appropriate to paraphrase Northrop Frye and say instead 'we write from what we know'. People who grew up around religion often speak about Atheism using a similar vernacular to that of the believers of the religion they rejected; we even see a conscious effort NOT to do that in this very video as someone try's to backtrack from calling something 'enlightening'. Anyone who code switches on a daily basis can tell you slip ups like that will occur when trying to translate from the vernacular you heard 80% of your life and the one you have more recently adopted, and that slipping will be even more frequent when there is no one around reinforcing the idea 'we don't talk like that'.

[@rileytubegaming9065]

"let me tell you about astrology..."

[@esmeralda1446]

But she was the mole xd She WAS the christian

[@carlose5751]

@@esmeralda1446 Exactly. Her phrasing and ideas (loved deconverting people?) were weird and religious-like. She only exchanged the "Christian" for "Atheist" in the phrasing, maybe she thought Atheism was just another religion.

[@lolann77]

who tf would say that? Like I'm so confused

[@Kaneki6386]

I didn't know there were atheists out there that treat it almost as if it's its own religion... I always viewed the term "atheist" as a way to describe a mindset rather than a word used to develop its own community.

[@JamesLacroixx]

I'm sorry but Emily was too obvious, lol. She said 'just atheist' when they were expounding on their labels, and when they were like 'how do you feel about deconversion?' and she was like 'love it!' I was like, it's her, lol. Sounds like what someone THINKS an atheist would think.

[@loveyou5507]

Frr she also just gave of like religious vibes lol

[@billnye8760]

She was the second to say so she didn't know.

[@aclassiccity]

I didn’t even know atheist had different levels lol 😭😭

[@mollyskye3216]

I mean I'm atheist and only identify as atheist but the deconverting thing was really weird. I guess maybe there are a few atheists who actively try to deconvert people but that'd be a small minority

[@JamesLacroixx]

@@mollyskye3216 Yeah to be fair the 'just atheist' thing wasn't the dead give away, it was just that in tandem with the deconversion thing. And I mean, if someone seems like they kind of WANT to be deconverted, I'm happy to have a conversation with them about why I'm an atheist, but I'd never actively seek to go out and deconvert someone, lol. Even still, it's not like a positive experience usually, it really shakes a person's world view.

[@musicaismylovica]

I don’t think it’s right to tell a grieving friend “they just need to read some philosophy” I consider myself an agnostic and I would tell my Christian best friend to reach out to god and talk about prayer with them. You don’t tell someone what you think you’d want to hear, you comfort them by helping them reach out to their faith. Some people need it. And that’s okay.

[@arcticpangolin3090]

I don’t think anyone’s saying you should suggest philosophy to someone who’s grieving, not unless they ask for it.

[@1337-i3v]

philosophy out of all things.

[@kashiikash4489]

Right! Thank you for this comment

[@callmekrayy]

Right, like they act as if you can only support a friend in a specific way. Ask how you can support them, give your condolences, create a safe space for them.

[@hmscience7944]

exactly

[@MissTriana127]

I really thought it was Katie because she was stereotypically downgrading the Christian community so much plssss

[@3dsaulgoodman43]

I know she was desperate the prove that she was an atheist, but to jump to stereotypes and insults was very low and rude of her. She definitely did not help clear the misconception of atheists being hostile towards religion.

[@ellozerp27]

Gives me american+gen z vibes tbh

[@fememoboy7601]

@@ellozerp27 Twitter vibes lmao

[@lumiperuna]

@@3dsaulgoodman43 This.

[@queenoftheslums3714]

wrdd and she just said things that were anti religion, not pro atheism

[@alexandriahilbert]

Emily gave off church girl vibes. I would have been confident to end after the first round.

[@stephengrant4841]

especially with how preachy she seemed. The "love it" about deconverting people then having to backtrack when she realized the actual atheists dont do that, the "straight up atheist" sounded weird, her sunny disposition was too quirky, all of it made it pretty obvious. Shame, I hate when the mole loses quick

[@creepykidandinfinitedreams2987]

@@stephengrant4841 I’m a Christian, but I would love to be the mole because I done some research and wouldn’t stereotype, I could use that money for college and donate the rest.

[@debbiesung]

Me an atheist who didn’t know there were atheist texts 👁👄👁

[@elias6113]

???

[@anna.augustinova]

Me, an atheist who didn't give a crap about atheist texts. 👁👄👁 Idk why they made it such a big deal.

[@andrewdoesyt7787]

Ikr. God isn’t real PERIOD.

[@elias6113]

@@andrewdoesyt7787 ehm so you are the same person saying atheists are the most open minded right? And in that comment right there you seem like the exact oppisate....

[@notyoungkid4653]

@@andrewdoesyt7787 God is real period

[@lauraelizabethbrown]

"Look I'm an atheist! I have tattoos!!" "I have my nipples pierced!!" What did I just watch?

[@Joseph-do9nz]

If you think that atheists are better than religious people, look at the username of the guy above me.

[@chvv7776]

Religious people with tattoos and piercing be like: 👁️👄👁️

[@Joseph-do9nz]

@ɪsʟᴀᴍ ᴀɴᴅ ᴄʜʀɪsᴛɪᴀɴɪᴛʏ ᴀʀᴇ ᴄᴜʟᴛs nice try troll. Did your mum teach you that piss poor comeback?

[@Daisy-bs2xb]

It’s because in most religious groups things like piercings and tattoos are going against the faith of whatever god they choose, even if it’s not a practice that is followed 100% it’s still a very popular following!

[@ellozerp27]

Me looks at my christian dad with tattoos: welp dad looks like you aren't a christian.

[@hiraeth7877]

These people talk about aethism like it's a religion, most atheists just dont do anything

[@candysweet434]

they’re not talking about a belief in god so no they are not talking about it like it’s a religion

[@hiraeth7877]

@@candysweet434 with the aspect of a god it is a religion, aethism doesnt have a god so i said _like_ a religion, not is a religion

[@candysweet434]

​@@hiraeth7877 you literally are saying the same thing

[@billnye8760]

I know! Everyone thinks we need some big thing to fill the religious hole but really it's just filled with life.

[@aclassiccity]

Right i never read a book or articles or anything LMAOOOOO

[@evehellod9776]

Katie’s 20-second defense is like something straight out of r/atheism

[@philippinesball5058]

r/atheism is actually quite different these days. Less neckbeards and edgy 13 yr olds and more posts exposing the hypocrisy of organized religious groups and cases of religious abuse. I’m not an atheist myself but I get where the community comes from.

[@ethandollarhide7943]

But it's 100% true.

[@tvbnine793]

@Philippines Ball yeah there's a lot of hypocrisy in religious communities, but there's a lot of hypocrisy in the atheist community, too. I hope more atheists notice that tbh

[@meizumi]

As an atheist, I've read more religious literature than atheist literature. So that question was very weird to me. It seems like it's more for extreme atheists than just people who don't believe in God.

[@aus-li]

What’s “atheist literature” mean?

[@Laura-nk4xg]

exactly. i am an atheist but i never read atheist literature or done anything similar. i simply dont believe in any god and never felt the need to find comfort in any religion

[@meizumi]

@@aus-li I'm guessing that they meant books about the concept of atheism. Just like religious text tells you why you should believe, some books on atheism tell you why you shouldn't. This is only my guess though, I've only read philosophical books but not necessarily atheist ones.

[@meizumi]

@基督教化学家Hate the law of Ķýrios Based on their comments in the video I think they meant something a lot more specific.

[@aus-li]

@基督教化学家Hate the law of Ķýrios Lol, I don’t really believe in any of that to be “atheist literature”, it doesn’t make sense.

[@mar-ek2mx]

as an atheist, this episode was so weird to me? i have had people try to convert me to Christianity and it was awful, I would never try to deconvert someone? also reading and studying atheism does not make you a better atheist?

[@datsko6339]

That was a dead giveaway to me why Emily was the theist. "What is your view on deconverting people?" "Love it!"

[@user-ok4xb1rd9f]

I feel like converting is something that religious people do not atheists.

[@datsko6339]

@@user-ok4xb1rd9f exactly. IDK why the people in this video were acting like atheism is some sort of religion, which is oxymoronic

[@kemiroseTV]

Hey I know that the damage has already been done but im sorry that Christians were forcing/working ti convert you. Christians are supposed to plant the seed and spread the goodnews of Jesus, not shove the religion down your throat. Whoever's reading, God bless💞You are loved!!!

[@juliannaevierivera]

@@kemiroseTV wrong video to sell Jesus on my guy. And I really don’t like the “Christian are supposed to plant the seed” comment... being “obligated” to give your unsolicited religious views to others who do not share those views goes hand in hand with conversion in my (atheist) book.

[@nathanstanish369]

I was so convinced it would be Katie. Speaking as a Christian, everything she said sounded like what Christians complain about 😂

[@margo1186]

Right? I was thinking her too also Christian here

[@silungileannitantuli3178]

Same!

[@GM-jo6hp]

@@icarusgotooclose You are 100% right. I'm an agnostic atheist but I wouldn't dream of discussing my worldview with or joining an atheist community. I feel like that defeats the purpose of atheism to swear to certain books and authors, and I found the question of asking if they read any atheist books and voting off the people who didn't to be really off-putting.

[@caffyduck1282]

I was so sure it would be her. I mean, to me it sounded like she was just a christian pretending to be an atheist based off of what she thought atheists are like

[@juicyyellowmango474]

Same I thought she was the mole

[@SnowBunni78]

I’m a Christian and my sister is an atheist. We are each other’s absolute best friends. We both respect each other’s life choices and never push our own beliefs unless asked about. She tries not to say the GD word around me which I think is so sweet!

[@qwertz666]

And that's how it should be :)

[@scoobydoo7220]

I'm Christian and a lot of my friends are gay, but I still have fun with them anyway even though I can't relate to most things they say. legit some of them say "im gay so I can't play the trumpet" 😭😭😭 can anybody explain why they say this????

[@wholeshebang1]

@Scooby Doo - I have no idea why your gay friends say they can't play trumpet. Sexual orientation has no impact upon one's musical ability. I'm a bi woman and play 7 instruments, including 2 saxez, clarinet and oboe. I'm also a profesdional singer, a visual artist and filmmaker.

[@wholeshebang1]

@Scooby Doo - Are your gay friends atheists or theists? I'm atheist and have been since my twenties, after being agnostic/questioning since I was about 11-12, when I learned about evolution (evidence-based facts). I don't believe there's any omnipotent, loving-yet-punishing, supernatural entity that was made up by hundreds of men over a long period of time 2000+ years ago, long before science had developed enough to rationally explain natural phenomena.

[@Random-sk6hm]

@@scoobydoo7220 As @whole shebang mentioned. It just something people say to get a sense of community. However, your sexual orientation has no ability on your ability to play a musical instrument

[@rosemaryngugi6328]

I'll be back after the inauguration to read the comments.

[@margot148]

@1% Evan Ł i think you're reading too much into this comment lmaoo

[@annonymous6827]

@@margot148 well that is the atheist way; reading way too much into it

[@heybye1119]

@1% Evan Ł no... the comment was just saying they’ll be back after they’re done watching the inauguration . Ur digging too deep lol

[@lmaooof6521]

@@annonymous6827 it means they’ll read comments after the inauguration is over...

[@shm0phie]

@1% Evan Ł i think they meant that theyre gonna let the comments simmer & in the meantime theyre gonna watch the inauguration

[@vwho6430]

No one: Not a single soul: Evan: I'M GUNNA VOTE FOR NINA

[@loganarnoldkicks4321]

Is Evan related to Fish Girl from Cut?

[@vwho6430]

@@loganarnoldkicks4321 I 💀💀💀

[@tomasflatharta]

Well she was only one that don't recommend an atheist book just vaguely said richard dawkins, which everybody knows about

[@Mr_AntiSocial]

*Nina was not the Imposter* *1 Imposter remains*

[@user-lu4xp7iv8c]

Guess him and fish girl from cut have something in common ...

[@bibbo3167]

Y DID I READ: “6 Athletes vs 1 Christian” Which would still be a funny video ngl

[@frozenfriedchicken]

“As a Christian I strongly believe that sports are for the devil” lol

[@hushpuppy2]

no it wouldnt.

[@etherealefrain9964]

@@hushpuppy2 cry

[@josjoererg]

"You see, my mom told me I had to pick between cycling and Jesus, and I realized that even though my family would hate me, I couldn't do anything but cycling for the rest of my life"

[@frozenfriedchicken]

@@josjoererg Wish I could fo that... Once I touched a soccer ball. Now I don't have a family anymore..

[@alexx5303]

Easiest way to spot the christian, you just say “If you are a christian speak up... you are lying without telling us and thats a sin... god said do not lie”

[@justincohen17]

everyone sins daily so a little white lie wont effect a christian like that

[@raine9752]

Lying for money too lmaooo 😭

[@meltwire]

at the end of the day it’s for entertainment too. so you can brush it off and ask for forgiveness.

[@CK_Godoth]

@@raine9752 lmao

[@okwuezeprecious3840]

@@meltwire yes but we shouldn’t use God’s forgiveness for granted.

[@Kantong5]

I knew Emily was the mole when someone asked about deconverting and Emily said 'Love it.' Then when Nina said it's not her place and Riya said you have to be careful with that. Emily changed her mind and said 'Yeah, I agree.' You can't go from two extremes. Loving to deconvert people but then saying you have to be careful? Like what?

[@moriaamittai7851]

Also she was way to excited when someone said he was raised catholic and she said “me too!”

[@phil4506]

She blew her cover lmao

[@zurzakne-etra7069]

she also said, "straight up atheist" like wtf and also wanting to tell people about atheism, that's sounded really preachy and christian lol

[@tvbnine793]

Well to be fair lying is a sin... lol I'm kind of upset that Emily lost because these guys were lowkey annoying

[@stephengrant4841]

Guarantee that was because she has a backwards view of people who arent religious and think of them as being predatory about it, outside of the edge lords that do that online. Then when everybody else said the opposite of what she assumed she had to backtrack lol

[@odwamavuso7851]

Atheism is not about “anything” except the premise that there’s no god. The values and principles that you have are individualistic, and some might be “secular humanists” or whatever. Any fellow atheists in South Africa?

[@bonsloweffect1449]

I'm not an atheist but I am South African

[@mihaimarcu4435]

Atheism is not about there being no god, it is about not being convinced by the claim that a god exists.

[@lizziemailord9524]

Ayyy my dude, praat jy enige afrikaans

[@sadieabbott4986]

@@mihaimarcu4435 if you put it that way than Christianity, for example, is not being convinced that a god doesn’t exist.

[@amohelangmolobi3533]

I’m not atheist I am agnostic if I had to give my self a label which I don’t I just read philosophical and religious texts to get insight on views of life and apply them to my life.

[@alichehab5804]

They made being atheist feel like a religion lol, so weird.

[@Electricc__]

probably because it is

[@savannahlvr9999]

@@Electricc__ atheism is more generally the denial of gods or rejection of religious belief. religion is more so belief in spiritual beings

[@patrik6872]

@@Electricc__ it's not lmao

[@Electricc__]

@@patrik6872 it takes a whole lot of belief to think the the universe, the earth, humans, animals, and plant life all functioning together was created from the rng of particles.

[@suqmaddiqq]

@@Electricc__ Atheism is just the lack of belief in the existence of God(s) though. It isn't a belief.

[@jacoburban2757]

Actually shocked how serious these guys take atheism I’m atheist and I haven’t read books or anything 😂🤷‍♂️

[@annalinde1381]

I just see atheism as the norm yk? Like I exist here, alright cool ig, so Can I just live?

[@nsr4000]

Fr😅

[@GoodWoIf]

It's a game where you have to convince atheists you're an atheist and there's money on the line. Even if you are an atheist you're gonna say stuff based on whether it's convincing not whether it's true.

[@glxxmy]

@@GoodWoIf Going by that they would've kept Emily in solely going off of how "hardcore atheist" you are. You can read about atheism, doesn't make you atheist. Even someone super religious might do that.

[@fallout8778]

Well then you're just ignorant

[@mehek930]

Joey: what are you guys views on deconverting? Emily: LoVe iT! Me: aha Christian right there!

[@hubertfarnsworth6824]

I thought the exact same thing

[@joshuagoshay43]

I thought she was a Christian before that part lol and what kind of assured me that she was, was the fact that she said if they are open to listening that’s nice and if not it’s fine or something like that

[@mehek930]

@@joshuagoshay43 yea me too,, felt really preachy

[@joshuagoshay43]

@@mehek930 As a believer, I feel like we can for the most part tell if someone is a Christian lol

[@mehek930]

@@joshuagoshay43 oh yea! for sure 😂

[@hisokamorow1994]

me a atheist: burh its not a religion I just don't believe in god or stuff like that

[@greenkontora]

La intolerancia de muchos ateos la hacen parecer una religión

[@hisokamorow1994]

@@greenkontora English please

[@greenkontora]

@@hisokamorow1994 sorry . The intolerance of many atheists makes it look like a religion

[@mariolaenid]

yams ily

[@hisokamorow1994]

@@mariolaenid YESSSSSSSSSS ILYT AHHHHH YESSS

[@mestillme1855]

I knew it was Emily the second she said “Oh yeah I love de-converting people” No true atheist would say that.

[@aspebb]

No true Scottsman

[@HawkUnleashed]

You would be suprsied there was a group on our campus that aggressively hated religion... Of course there was normal atheists but thet group was an ooof

[@juwatt638]

Exactly

[@purplewine7362]

I feel Joey has definitely tried that though.

[@evehellod9776]

When Katie said that an atheist shouldn’t go to religion when they have lost someone, I can’t really agree with her on that If it makes the person feel better, they should do whatever they want. Just because they’re an atheist doesn’t mean that they can’t try to see if religion makes them feel better. If they found out they’re religious that way, let them do it. If they see that religion really isn’t for them, great, they learned a thing about themselves. But as long as the person feels better, it doesn’t matter if they turned to religion or not. They can’t just “read some philosophy” like Katie said. You also comfort the person like a friend would do, not tell them to read philosophy.

[@tinaa5331]

As soon as Emily was so eagerly like "ya I love trying to convert people" and everyone else was uncomfortably like "ya no we don't try to convert", I was like it's so clearly Emily.

[@googoogaga3154]

Some of the people here really got on my nerves they were generalising Christians they were also acting as if atheism was a religion when it's not that much more then a belief

[@yeshivar5514]

Christianity is homophobic and mysogunistc, there was no generalizing

[@yeshivar5514]

@Alicee I said Christianity not Christians, and putting more emphasis on the mysogny and sexism in the religion if you actually read the Bible thoroughly you would realize that too

[@yeshivar5514]

@Alicee so you just going to ignore the countless verses that say women should be submissive and barely talk in public , the countless verses when the Bible instructs to destroy possessions of other religions that people follow, the countless verses when God uses fear tactics and disguises it as love. Yeah sit down

[@aj-kk7rs]

@@yeshivar5514 do research before you talk. the bible originally wasn’t homophobic nor sexist rather it was changed over 100 times by white nationalists to piece together they’re hatred ans blame it on their religion.

[@yeshivar5514]

@@aj-kk7rs I agree some things were changed in the bible, but nothing dramatic. There are many stories in the bible of prophets and men where there are stuff like r@p3, gaslighting, grooming, p3doph!le and sexism are present. There are just too many flaws in the bible to be ignored

[@Mortaholic]

During the first question when Emily says she’s a “Straight up Atheist”, she simultaneously shakes her head left to right as if her body is saying “no I’m not”. Learned it from the show Lie To Me. Knew right then and there.

[@saltyduckie]

i'll remember this information in the future

[@cecilia6972]

well, thanks for the spoiler.

[@summerj5279]

@@cecilia6972 that’s on you lmfao why would you read the comments before the vid

[@cecilia6972]

@@summerj5279 everyone does that.

[@sapphireblossom1982]

She shakes her head constantly. It's very obvious

[@LUKALAmusic]

Am I the only one who didn’t know there were types of Atheism? So people aren’t just Atheist Atheist?! Lol

[@TheNameIsLisi]

I always thought agnostic is separate from atheism. Like as in as an atheist you don't believe in God and as an agnostic you still think that there is a possibility for God to exist but guess they're kinda part of the same spectrum? Personally if I was agnostic I wouldn't call myself an atheist.

[@ajrose3991]

@@TheNameIsLisi it’s because gnosticism and theism are different and have very different meanings, theism is about belief so an aTHEIST believes there is no god (because theism is about belief) an aGNOSTIC (gnostic means knowledge) is a person who does not claim to know there is or is not a god, so an agnostic atheist is just someone who doesn’t believe in a god personally but also doesn’t claim to know 100% there is no god, that’s why atheism and agnosticism are compatible and a very common form of atheism, hope that helped

[@reina2320]

It’s agnostic, atheist and theist. There aren’t different types has anyone else ever taken an re class?

[@saltedwounds]

@@reina2320 I have, but I never learned this.

[@thehumancrayon3264]

@@reina2320 I don't think putting agnosticism on a spectrum between theism and atheism works, as knowledge and belief are two different subject. You can talk about belief being a subset of knowledge, and to an extent I'll probably agree, but the two are seperate none the less. So , like some folks in the video, I call myself an agnostic atheist. 'Agnostic' because I don't *know* if there is anything out there that could be defined as devine, and 'atheist' because I don't *believe* as such (note: non-belief in x ≠ *believing* x is *not* true). This system leaves everybody with four possible positions: -agnostic theist; doesn't know (a) god(s) exists, believes (a) god(s) exists -gnostic theist (not to be confused with gnosticism); knows (a) god(s) exists, believes (a) god(s) exists -agnostic atheist; doesn't know (a) god(s) exists, doesn't believe (a) god(s) exists -gnostic atheist; knows (a) god(s) does not exists, doesn't believe (a) god(s) exists

[@juggle_g7579]

Evan got eliminated for being unlikable lmao.

[@brendanimathiu7029]

I loved every second of it

[@Wxtst.3]

Ikr it was so satisfying to watch hahahaha

[@MsDudette21]

how tf was he unlikeable

[@Wxtst.3]

@@MsDudette21 You must be Evan.

[@MsDudette21]

@@Wxtst.3 u must be an ignorant religious person. uk since u wanna make assumptions. Evan's definitely my dream man though. y not just answer the question? cuz your response just sounds like u have no good reason to and are projecting.

[@cecelian715]

I have no problem with atheists, I am one myself, but it frustrates me so much when there’s an atheist who disregards other’s beliefs and assumes that they’re always right and smarter and more logical than people who do follow a religion.

[@samsingh43]

Disregard a belief is part of democracy and basic human right and it's actually opposite religious people think they they always right and what's the problem with that anyone can claim about righteousness that doesn't mean anything

[@W-I463]

They really made "being an atheist" their whole personality

[@naomijones286]

How 💀 they just literally discussing the topic

[@captainxcast]

Or it’s almost like they were chosen to participate in a panel specifically to discuss atheism 🤔

[@silverbirds7717]

The whole point of the topic is to talk about atheism wtf are u talking about

[@abc23123]

Hmm kinda like how religious ppl do the same thing 🤔.. only this video wasn’t

[@AddBowIfGirl]

@@silverbirds7717 It’s just a sensitive religious person who was agreed with by a bunch of other sensitive religious people.

[@shilombemahungu]

Nina: *Breathes* Evan: She's sus! It's not atheist!

[@MegumiHayashida]

Deadass lmao he came for her and she silenced his ass real quick 😂

[@data4289]

If you're into astrology then you're religious, you don't believe in god but still, religious.

[@lavoshakern]

@@data4289 I would say spiritual instead of religious.

[@Chino600]

Fr he was annoying

[@saharaasher8959]

@@data4289 it’s not a religion

[@Daniellespah]

Somebody should’ve said “alright everybody go around and say Jesus isn’t real” woulda got the mole out real quit lmao cause *you can’t deny him in front of your peers*

[@youcannotspeaktomeanyhow]

🙊you went there

[@Daniellespah]

@@youcannotspeaktomeanyhow yes, yes I did and sometimes.. you gotta😃🤷‍♀️

[@youcannotspeaktomeanyhow]

@@Daniellespah I guess😂

[@hubertfarnsworth6824]

Honestly that would have made it much more fun

[@RafaelValle12]

I mean, theres a way around that. As a historical figure, he was real. The argument is whether or not he was the son of god. If you phrased it as, "deny jesus's power or his holiness or something like that", you would've gotten me

[@haikalmunawar1720]

I just love the fact that Joey looks like a Jesus talking about atheism

[@gracepearson5905]

Cause he has long hair wow,

[@MegumiHayashida]

Joey The Secular Humanist Messiah

[@youssefhachicha49]

That ain't true jesus doesn't look anything like that its just a lie that been brought by someone a long time ago

[@robertcharlesiii8393]

The reason I knew it was Emily was when she said "if people are open to hearing about atheism". I'm an atheist going to a private Christian university, and this is EXACTLY how I would imagine they would try and sell this. Emily's choice of phrasing made it sound like she saw atheism as a complete worldview that you can summarize in a way that would be similar to how a lot of my friends make the case for believing in god to me. It's a subtle unconscious slip up that reveals how her mind is operating and the moment she said that, I knew. Also, they all seem like really chill people I'd love to talk to and chill with!

[@wholeshebang1]

@Robert Charles III - If you don't mind me asking, why would you, an atheist, choose to go to a Christian college? I would never want to be durrounde by religious people, practices, symbols or course content, especially for 3-4 years, when my critical thinking skills are still developing.

[@robertcharlesiii8393]

@@wholeshebang1 I personally felt confident enough in my critical thinking skills to allow for a more challenging environment. I don't want to get too comfortable in an environment of like minded individuals. It's isolating at times, and it can be difficult talking to people sometimes, but I think it will help me out in the long run.

[@GoodWoIf]

It's why this game is so hard for chrisitans lol.

[@JoyfullyShea-Marcella]

If you don't mind me asking what university do you attend?

[@cate4016]

"What type of atheist are you?" Me, an atheist: there's different types?

[@hermaeusmora424]

Not really but he clearly meant gnostic vs agnostic. (sometimes known as strong atheism vs weak atheism.)

[@cate4016]

@@hermaeusmora424 Ah okay. Thanks. I just didn't know there is a difference. But also I am not a native English speaker nor from religious background at all.

[@princet1492]

There’s an Atheist, an agnostic atheist and an Gnostic Atheist. From what I know.

[@peppermint1349]

I think Agnostic and Atheist should be separated cause I am agnostic.

[@hermaeusmora424]

@@peppermint1349 they answer 2 different questions(knowledge and believe). You cant be just agnostic, either you believe in god or you dont. So you can either be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist.

[@cosmicthunderdoome5250]

Katie was very smart for voting Nina because she knew the only to people they voted for was herself and Nina.

[@cosmicthunderdoome5250]

@Queen queen rip

[@InsaneClipszz]

I’m surprised Joey didn’t get voted out, he literally looks like Jesus

[@爱小狗小猫蝙蝠果子狸]

How do you know how Jesus looks like?

[@tlcoyle39]

@@爱小狗小猫蝙蝠果子狸 there is a cloth (still here today) that has his face on it

[@kaitoflamely9305]

Whew! Someone said it!

[@mint7261]

People who look like Jesus are never Christians. A good example of that is Hozier.

[@lilliannaduff7904]

@@tlcoyle39 that's not real Jesus

[@Iararawr]

"I'm a Leo sun, Cancer moon, Sag rising, sorry buddy" get him sis.

[@aikokumi6301]

YASS

[@victoriak7281]

"nina. Nina. NiNa. NINA”

[@jennawesome2679]

LMAOOOOO

[@francescaaaguevara2288]

Not the fish girl reference💀🙌🏾

[@victoriak7281]

@@francescaaaguevara2288 lol

[@umohdoraline6333]

😂😂

[@userk4730]

Sounds familiar 😂

[@jm-holm]

I'm proud of myself, I caught the mole in the first minute. "Straight up atheist" already made me suspicious, wtf is that supposed to mean? "yeah, deconverting. love it :)" was the nail in the coffin.

[@zurzakne-etra7069]

it's super weird that she said that

[@lolann77]

i don't get how there are multiple types of atheists lmao.. it's like just atheist, agnostic, and religious

[@mikeschouten7680]

If someone would ask me what kind of atheist I am, I would say that I just don't believe in god. I didn't know there were more kinds than just atheism and humanism

[@SerbAtheist]

@@lolann77 Is there only one type of theist?

[@Random-sk6hm]

Tbh I would call myself a 'straight up atheist'. I dont usually use all the other titles but I'm just super scientific

[@karsonwarner6851]

Not all Christians are sexist and homophobic

[@adrianna0.049]

too many are tho

[@mayabean662]

very true

[@Rentted]

@@adrianna0.049 no

[@TheShadoDev]

@@Rentted Literally yes

[@adrianna0.049]

@@Rentted yup

[@mcpheefan21]

1:15 That's a profile picture an atheist would have. Rarely would a Christian make that their profile pic even for a joke.

[@richursabia6780]

I don't even know there are types of "Atheist" aside of just atheist.

[@Atem_in_the_streets]

Same. Like ..why? 😂

[@spades7632]

There is different types of secular,I’m agnostic,but not really different types of atheist.

[@ashleyredsheep]

I identify as an agnostic, and I never really saw that as a type of atheism?? I mean, from my understanding, atheists believe there is no god/higher power, and agnostics believe there is--just not by definition of the Bible.

[@aus-li]

@@ashleyredsheep I’m an atheist, and I think there are more agnostic individuals than atheist. I don’t believe in anything spiritual, whatsoever, but I’ve dedicated myself to theology, so now I’m more educated than most religious people, lol.

[@samuelebernardi4754]

@@ashleyredsheep if I'm right the definition slightly differs: An agnostic (greek αγνοείν, to ignore) acknowledge to *ignore* the supposed existence of an higher being While an atheist (greek α+Θεός, absence of God) is pretty confident there is none

[@dekihehe85]

Idk why but I felt like Evan was a Christian cuz idk he just looks like he could be a Sunday school teacher or smthg😂✨

[@_Ash0099]

HAHAHA I can see that lol

[@TheCynicalSap]

There's another jubilee video he's in where he straight up says he's Christian lmao

[@maoldasi]

@@TheCynicalSap isnt there? I was so confused lol do you remember what video was it?

[@TheCynicalSap]

@@maoldasi unless my memory is way off (it could be its been a while), it's the one where it's monogamy vs polyamory relationships and they have to convince kids to join their side of the "argument."

[@TheCynicalSap]

@@maoldasi found it its called "is it okay to date multiple people"

[@riptide2505]

Emily was hilarious tried to deconvert and got converted 😂🤣

[@tvbnine793]

I'm upset that she lost.. everyone else was kind of annoying

[@annalinde1381]

@@tvbnine793 Uh I actually disagree with that, I found it to be the opposite way for me

[@Random-sk6hm]

Im an atheist but I lowkey lost it when she said that 😂. My my my how the turntables...

[@tvbnine793]

@@Random-sk6hm well to be fair lying is a sin

[@riptide2505]

I am an aethist btw. It’s just hilarious that she walked in a room with the sole purpose of convincing someone, then she got convinced the complete opposite of her goal

[@aniela182]

i don’t get offended often, but i really don’t like the way katie grouped all christians together as being homophobic and sexist. It was such a big stereotype that i genuinely thought she was the mole because of it

[@Random-sk6hm]

I am aware that not all of you are but when there is enough we can reasonably fear. Just like its 'not all men'. Its still enough and y'all have the power snd oppress groups

[@miranda.cooper]

Yeah, that's why I prefer being specific. "The ESV bible is homophobic and sexist". Sure there are others that are, too... but what I brought up IS true.

[@ethandollarhide7943]

@@lilymaddisonx Katie is 100% true. You need to leave Christianity and find a religion that doesn't hate you

[@ethandollarhide7943]

@@lilymaddisonx *a Few. Not most. A few Christians. I've spent my entire life stuck in the Southern United States, one of the most Christian parts of the world, and most of the Christians here are exactly the way that Katie described them.

[@santiagoirigoyen9560]

Nina: Im atheist, so i dont believe in anything that science hasn't proved Also nina: dO yOu beLievE in Tarot cArds?! Cuz im a Leo. ... bruh

[@rodri1971]

nina was lowkey annoying.

[@shelbysisson5160]

She said in the video its for fun

[@alinagracia3986]

reminder that spirituality and religion is not the same thing; you can be an atheist and still practice activities like tarot, witchery, astrology, etc. because it has nothing to do with believing in a god.

[@BryanAFC]

@@alinagracia3986 yea but her science comment heavily implied a naturalist worldview

[@mareyes8669]

timestamp?

[@eghosab13_]

Nina: Evan: Yea I’m voting her out

[@Wxtst.3]

@Nonaya Bidness Yeah I agree. He was stereotyping her which makes him an outright douche.

[@Furkward]

@Nonaya Bidness That's a reach that had nothing to do with race.

[@MsDudette21]

@Nonaya Bidness im a black chick and i thought she was the mole too cuz she had trouble thinking of stuff to say and the tarot card thing. stop bringing up race unnecessarily. black people generally are super religious anyway

[@Wxtst.3]

@mozak plesa You're missing what was literally shown to you.

[@ChocPrynce]

@@MsDudette21 A large proportion of the "super religious" Black folks are more culturally Christian than practicing. Most of the Black atheists I know use Christian vernacular, because Black Christianity and Black culture more broadly are deeply entwined. Further, if she were a Black Christian, her big ma would've definitely put a foot in her A for having (1) any tattoo and (2) a tattoo of what big ma would've called "tools of witchcraft."

[@miguelagudelo9426]

To be honest I find really weird believing in the horoscope when you're atheist. It's like :" I don't believe there is someone that watchs out for me but I believe stars do and they define me and my life".

[@ashleyredsheep]

EXACTLY

[@Emma-we5gv]

IKR I’m an Agnostic/Atheist and that just kinda seems ridiculous-

[@carlar2301]

exactly. is that not belief as well? it confuses me so much when so called atheist believe in astrology.

[@gregorthebeetle]

ikk i didn't realize people actually believed in astrology until like a month ago

[@mantabsekali920]

Irrational atheist 😂

[@hadassahBespokejamison]

It's funny how they voted the Christian out for being too friendly and like upbeat but then continued to talk about Christians being judgy...

[@sakutaro3musik486]

as a german, I didn´t know that being an atheist is so strange in america, I have many friends I know like hundreds of people and 95% of them are atheist, I know like 1 person my age that is christian XD

[@mariefabre2105]

probably cuz in Germany there was a massive decrease in religion in the 30s and 40s, here in the US however it has always been very important (also depends what part u live in)

[@finn.schttlr]

Deutschland und die USA kann man was Religiosität angeht wirklich gar nicht vergleichen, die Amis sind im Durchschnitt deutlich gläubiger als wir.

[@carlose5751]

Don't worry you still have TONS OF MUSLIMS.

[@oliviaeisnor8845]

where im from, "atheism" just sounds like a bad word. it sounds like it's a bad thing to be. when in reality, it is just another belief/non-belief i guess

[@user-me8hy8ew4o]

@@carlose5751 more Christians than Muslims. But whatever most will become atheist over the generations eventually is what I think

[@strutforfortune2050]

No one: Erin: Believing in god isn’t vegan.

[@eshabajaj6462]

Ahh yes the Erin comments

[@kaydayz8899]

The b e s t comment

[@jmaca.]

I haven't watched Jubilee for very long, what does it mean (erin:that's not vegan)

[@abe10alpha]

@@jmaca. Watch the Vegan episode of Odd Man out.

[@darkacadpresenceinblood]

i KNEW there were going to be Erin comments😂

[@andriiiiii]

emily: "oh my goodness" me: it has to be her .

[@elodiebenoit-girault8638]

True. I am a Christian and I always say oh my goodness lol

[@h2t26]

"I have my nipples pierced!" That alone made this whole video worth it!

[@tvbnine793]

imagine if the mole was male and asked "can we see?"