6 Cheapest Tricks Bosses Should be Ashamed Of

[@thomasrico9227]

I hate it when you fight a boss and then get arrested for assualt and fired from the company

[@mountaindank7817]

Guessing there's a story there?

[@seanwattsmoore8507]

Thomas Rico LOL

[@seanwattsmoore8507]

DaniellikesBTD5 Best comment EVER not so far

[@domdagamer5285]

Lol I was totally taking this seriously until about two seconds after I read it. I then cracked up laughing!! Seriously though what’s the story there?

[@khoreybrown4349]

Speaking of boss battles that you're supposed to lose. Don't you hate the ones you're supposed to lose but you're still required to meet the normal victory conditions just to trigger a scene where you lose?

[@eveescastle5866]

Or bosses where you have to beat them a certain way or you lose...

[@hunterjolliff7953]

Looking at you dragon quest XI

[@ellbent]

Raiden fokkin Shogun

[@Holydragonblade]

The really nasty one isn't just the boss that you're supposed to lose to/can't beat, is the boss that you obviously can't beat so you assume you're supposed to lose to him so you do, but then it turns out that you had to survive fighting them up to a certain point so you can die to a cutscene or super move for the game to progress properly.

[@Relicanth]

I've got two. 1) Bosses who require you to spend half the battle chasing them, as being in front of you to throw down is a chump way out - no, you have to run through multiple rooms or across rooftops just to reach them and then smack at them. 2) Bosses who abandon all your moves, upgrades, and fighting mechanics and say "Screw it, we're doing this entire battle in vehicles!", rendering all the training, powering up, and skill-honing you've done utterly worthless.

[@GODOFAWSOMENESS1]

Bogmire42 especially surprise vehicles which you never saw before.

[@blooddovel.6357]

Your talking about the first half of the game boss fight in Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess. Worse part is though, your not the one shooting...

[@lordofthepatrick]

Ares in god of war you know all those cool weapons and magic powers you collected learned how to use and upgraded forget them im taking them away from you now you have to use an entirely new weapon just for this fight

[@aardbei54]

BloodDove L. Are you talking about Stallord or Zelda?

[@blooddovel.6357]

End of game Gannondorf, when your riding Epona. Zelda is shooting, you are steering.

[@Larry]

Bosses that do one final attack during their death that catches you off guard and kills you too. Drives me nuts that does!

[@tituscaesar6960]

+Larry Bundy Jr Like in Castlevania Aria of Sorrow Death throws his....thing after you kill him, I died by that twice in Julius Mode. Still a great game though.

[@jackmakeham4108]

How about Papu Papu from Crash Bandicoot 1? You defeat him, yet it's still possible for him to fall on you and kill you at the end of the battle... It is ridiculously frustrating when that happens

[@tituscaesar6960]

Hmm. Never played that one. Is it good?

[@firedrake110]

It's far too difficult to read that comment without hearing it in your voice lol

[@Maschinengoth]

Classic Binding of Isaac moms heart XD

[@zecle]

"only being briefly vulnerable" all sonic bosses since 2006 run and avoid attacks for 10 minutes now you get your 10 second chance. oh, you didn't realize, you missed it. run and avoid attacks for another 10 minutes. ok now is your chance. go ahead. oh, you didn't hit him, you only removed his protection. you realize you actually have to hit him twice knowing this and having to avoid dangers for next 10 minutes bothers you. you start being hit because you are upset. now is your chance. jump, crush the shield and GODDAMMIT WTF HAPPENED ?! you understand when you destroy his shield, you have to dodge a last ditch attack before hitting his weak spot. his attack is really easy to dodge but you didn't know. understanding how easy it was frustrates you even more. you start being hit again because you are angry for the next 10 minutes to come. you have 0 rings, you become angrier anger makes you forget where are the rings scattered on your path. you have to avoid dangers and get rings at the same time. you manage to collect 5 rings. you get hit right after that and lose them. you see 5 rings coming you get hit trying to get them you have 0 rings. anger makes you make mistakes. you die. you start again you manage to hit him you understand it takes 6 hit to defeat. after 1 entire hour perfect battle without missing once and being it, you are about to give the last shot. BSOD you unplug your console, put it behind the wheel of your car and you reverse gear. and forward and reverse and forward until you are sure the console is crushed.

[@bingbong193]

wow, that's even worse than warden in halo 5..... he throws blackholes at you and has a 1hit melee AND you fight him many times through the game

[@solokom]

+zecle YES Let the hate flow through you!

[@THISISYOUTUUUUUUUUBE]

+zecle Only briefly vulnerable since 2006? They've been like that since the series hit 3d, and even in some of the 2d games.

[@zecle]

THISISYOUTUUUUUUUUBE #sonicadvance2

[@hansonfamily6583]

Yeah, I never even finished the Sonic 4 Episode 1 boss... Ever seen a boss rush of 7 bosses, with only like 5 rings per boss or maybe even 5 ring for the whole thing... Don't quite remember. Boy, I could barely beat the 2nd boss let alone 7.

[@Folopolis]

Bosses that you beat, but then kill you in a cut scene.

[@tomgibson6801]

first vergil fight dmc3 did this

[@pacoman8825]

Walrider from outlast

[@zackskrubproductions1770]

PacoMan88 - official mememaster Yeah!

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

I can agree with that one. Reminds me of the first fight vs Sorceress Edea in Final Fantasy 8. :/

[@ezekiel0606]

that's the last one, isn't it?

[@Durwood71]

Boss battles are one of my least favorite game design conventions. I rarely find them fun for many of the reasons stated here. Anyway, you forget to mention those bosses who are super hard to defeat but then have a change of heart and join your team, and you think, "All right! This guy is going to kick some serious ass!" only to find out that he no longer has all those super awesome powers that he used when fighting you. And, oh yeah, he has a normal health bar making him just as vulnerable as the rest of your party.

[@MrJerichoPumpkin]

someone played Chrono Trigger, I see

[@Barbatos_100]

Bosses that run away and you have to chase them, if not you fail the mission.

[@MinerDude369]

like assassins creed?

[@Barbatos_100]

Miner Dude369 Yeah and in Prototype 2.

[@figloalds]

And infamous series

[@chileshems88]

Golden Eye 64

[@nerdyrockcomics5428]

spiderman 2 black cat

[@agentoregon2794]

I think Alduin from Skyrim deserves a special mention, as he is both a boss with multiple stages and one you can't kill until the end. You go to all the trouble to learn Dragonrend, Alduin suddenly appears and now it's the final battle. Until the coward flies off to Sovngarde forcing you to track down a dragon and go to Heaven. Literally.

[@ItsEphora]

TheFourthReaper Miraak from the Dragonborn dlc was annoying too. Not really hard, but annoying.

[@agentoregon2794]

Arthur Vyncke First dragon: Oh, he's dead already? That was so easy... OH COME ON. Second dragon: Alright, that was harder... SERIOUSLY! AGAIN? Third dragon: Ok, that was tough, at least he has no more dragons- FOR GOD'S SAKE MIRAAK!

[@agentoregon2794]

Leo Gurrola The first time I did it it was so tough. I did it at a low level and had to use Berserker, Dragon Aspect and the Stone Powers to beat him. This time, I did it at level 27 with Legendary Stalhrim armor and it was a cakewalk. Still, Miraak was an EPIC boss fight, definitely better than Harkon.

[@agentoregon2794]

It Must Be RoofCake I did it as a level 27 Orc. Used Dragon Aspect and Berserker Rage and he didn't even do damage to me.

[@hyperslow1233]

+Leo Gurrola "Every shout in your arsenal, testing not only your strength, but your skill and resolve" Eh, I prefer Fireball Spam.

[@tyrael4043]

Do a part 2, here are some suggestions : -Annoying AoE affects -Overpowered DoTs -Too fast to even hit the goddamn boss -De-Buffs (especially lower spell cast time / attack speed) -The boss escaping, then coming back at a later stage of the game -One-hit-kill attacks

[@GL1TCHB0MB]

They already mention the boss escaping and coming back.

[@GL1TCHB0MB]

They already mention the boss escaping and coming back.

[@GL1TCHB0MB]

The boss leaving and coming back at a later stage in the game was part of #6. They use R.E as an example.

[@deathkorpsgrenadier2419]

Tyrael What do you think of stun-lock combos?

[@a.p.b.9661]

Mortal kombat 9 shao kahn spamming the same attacks that does a lot of damage. I really hate his hammer

[@kylenetherwood8734]

When you beet them in gameplay and then lose in the cutscene. "For story reasons"

[@penitent2401]

they left out the one where you get cursed or infected at certain point in the fight and have a limited time to finish before instantly falls over dead.

[@Blackajack20]

You mean DOOM from FF series, or a timed bomb? I hate those mechanics especially

[@penitent2401]

Blackajack alot of mmos and rpgs have it.

[@cullenlatham2366]

it doesnt even need to be a curse/infection. there are the time bombs/self destruct moments and crumbling structure battles as well.

[@1SilverDollar]

I'm looking at you AC III: Boston Brawlers that one guy who sedates you.

[@maank2146]

Reminds me of the ending of metroid fusion when I beated the endboss only to go gameover because the time ran out in the "cutscene" after the battle.

[@Kamo2x]

The electrocutioner in batman Arkham Origins was a really tough fight, took me about 8 tries to finally get him.

[@outsidexbox]

Sean Robertson Ha!

[@TheFetchOmi2]

+outsidexbox Wow OX got that quick.

[@theproteanbro5994]

srsly just punch him while he's talkin' smack

[@theawesomeleprechaun]

Sean Robertson 8, jeez do you own mlg yet

[@mit6089]

wait you serious? that fight (wasnt even a fight) took 7 seconds

[@thunderjarchannel]

They forgot about the best thing some game designers do. They give you tons of amazing and powerful tools and then give you a boss just as powerful so you use all your attention and skill to defeat the boss just for it to jump to cutscenes and find out that you apparently lost and the boss leaves unscathed.

[@reddot3822]

One thing that sucks is boss rushes. You know, when you fight consecutive bosses without being able to save or buy anything from the shop.

[@despayeeto3014]

Gotta love those bosses that break into smaller bosses, which after you kill turn into even smaller bosses...binding of Issac's Envy...into even smaller bosses...I think you get my picture.

[@rebellucy5098]

Agh, that last one. I can't remember what game it was now but I remember a boss that, not only were you supposed to lose to, it didn't have any way of completely ending you in one hit and it wasn't invincible. Literally hours of attacking this boss to get its bar all the way down to where its nearly gone and I couldn't finish that last little bit. I end up pausing and looking it up only to find out I was supposed to let it kill me. Devs: Just don't make fail state bosses, make it a cut-scene or something. Edit: By 'that last one' I mean that last point not Dragon's Dogma. I can't remember what game *I PLAYED* not 'I can't remember what game they are playing.'

[@SourceOfBeing]

Mischievous Roze I swear browser based flash games do the 'you have to lose' boss better than proper games. At least then it's obvious you can't win.

[@jamiealexandermiller]

Mischievous Roze why are you lying about that, you only have to get his health bar a quarter of the way down before the cut-scene starts

[@thebat735]

+Jamie Miller Nice

[@Sessils]

Mischievous Roze Dragons Dogma was the game.

[@AlecTheBroken2]

Lmao you did that to the dragon in the beginning of dragons dogma? I didn't even know that was possible , I usually just climb on it for fun and strike at it

[@charleslee8313]

Mr. Freeze in Arkham City. THAT is how a boss fight is supposed to go.

[@gamerazor247]

That boss was fun. Nothing special though.

[@MrBabadaba]

+Delta Derp until you do it on new game plus+...

[@gameexpert060]

+Charles Lee i beat him first try, i didn't die!

[@MrBabadaba]

Delta Derp dude, have you even tried doing it on new game+?

[@Mrjohnny164]

+MrBabadaba its very easy, just do every takedown in the book but it is a good boss battle

[@SolidSonicTH]

I've also encountered bosses where you aren't supposed to win against but only in a certain way. Die at the wrong time or with the wrong circumstance and it counts as a legit loss.

[@Shay96]

I remember a lot of those in he Yu-Gi-Oh! DS games, where the dialogue says "if you want to defeat me, do so after I summon x" And if you beat them without them summoning their boss monster, they're like "Try again". It's stupid.

[@SSBBPOKEFAN]

Those bosses that you must die to because story are annoying, but you wanna know what's worse? Bosses that you beat, quite easily might I add, only for the following cut scene to show them not tuckered in any way and handing you your ass on a silver platter. Referred to on TVTropes as "That Battle Didn't Count".

[@msx500]

Like the In Your Heart Shall Burn quest from Dragon Age: Inquisition?

[@TheDrunkenHetzer]

I also find it annoying when all the characters say how hard that boss was, when you wiped the floor with them in a few moves, it takes out the immersion.

[@msx500]

Seth Cox That's what dissapointed me about the Corypheus boss fight in Inquisition. Let's face it, in the quest I mentioned he pretty much screwed the Inquisitor over, forcing the whole Inquisition to relocate all together, and Bioware doesn't even give him a challenging boss fight. You spend more time chasing him down and fighting his minions and his Red Lyrium Dragon then you do actually fighting him.

[@TheDrunkenHetzer]

msx500 Yeah, it takes all the immersion out. It might make you feel that you are super OP, but not in a good way.

[@msx500]

+Seth Cox Yeah, even though I play on the easiest difficulty, but that's no excuse to dumb down a boss fight, especially the most crucial boss fight in the whole game. The first time you actually see Corypheus in the game had me so tense and thinking "Oh shit, we'll have to fight that in the endgame?!" only to find Bioware dumbed him down.

[@x.xraven7347]

even worse when you kicked the bosses ass but in the cut scene you still lose of story reasons

[@thepompf2049]

+X.XRaven COUGH, POKEMON MYSTERY DUNGEON BIDOOF SCENE COUGH

[@Lycan4]

+X.XRaven Sorceress Edea, Final Fantasy 8, Disc 1.

[@midnytemassacre]

+Lycan4 Yes, but also... eff you for triggering flashbacks. -.-

[@TheRedwater357]

Kingdom Hearts is bad on that. Leon doesn't even proceed to beat him anyway, Sora just faints.

[@ordall]

Full restores in every pokemon game. I'm looking at you Cynthia >_

[@devinloew7681]

yep. Or Red and his Lapras... or something like that (Soulsilver) Diamond was bae

[@frankwest5388]

but you can see that comeing or even avoid it completly, so irs annoying but not to cheap

[@chainsawplayin]

Dr_Ordall Hariyama used Brick Break! It's super effective! Crawdaunt stays at 1 HP Elite Four Sidney used Full Restore!

[@LordJokester]

Dr_Ordall That's not cheap, considering that you even use revives!

[@LockeWick]

Dr_Ordall I find it rather fine, if I get them to red health I know I'll have one move where I won't be attacked so I have more room to do either an an attack that will bring them down (because it requires two turns to use) or I can also heal my Pokemon. It's annoying if the pokemon has the Sturdy ability though.

[@QuikVidGuy]

I like these guys. They're entertaining and amusing in a way that's kind of professional and doesn't try to force you to laugh, but isn't distant. Very balanced.

[@night1952]

I actually think it's cool for a boss to have multiple phases. They usually get cooler and cooler

[@Isiel42]

Exactly! When he got to that point in the countdown I was like "Seriously, dude?"

[@omarrivera5848]

+Isaac Cook It is fine and enjoyable to pretty much anyone (I guess) when the previous phases where not hard but very cool looking.

[@Isiel42]

Omar Rivera Agreed. One of the few exceptions to this rule is Yunalesca of Final Fantasy X. 1st phase is meh, 2nd phase is tough as hell, and then you find out she has a 3rd phase and you want to throw your controller across the room.

[@omarrivera5848]

Isaac Cook Not much to me, I guess. Yes, it was surprising, but I enjoyed the battle a lot. Not to mention, I beat her in my first try (was not easy at all, though). I found the second phase to be more complex than the third one, but the latter is much more dangerous.

[@hariman7727]

Yep. Especially if you get a checkpoint in between phases, or they're not too long.

[@shadowranger937]

I am going to make a boss. * 1000 times your size! *1,000,000 minions that each have 1,000,000,000 minions of their own! *You have to kill all of the minions to make the boss vulnerable! *The boss has a health bar even larger then he is. *He's the only one that can hurt himself *He stuns you for 3 seconds every 4 seconds. *He has ranged attacks *He's super speedy *You can't run or hide from him *10 stages that are exactly the same as this first one. *you have to replay again and again until you are done in which the game forces you to loose *you fight him again at the end of the game *this time he has twenty health stages and you have to use another "junk" item you got right after getting your butt handed to you the first time *When you beat the boss, you get jack for it.

[@sirbillius]

He should stun you for 3 seconds every 2 seconds. :)

[@respectmyauthoritys8]

Is this boss known for juggling

[@KiwiPowerNZ]

+Alex Gluch (ShadowRanger) Sounds like me trying to kill a level 100+ player on BF4, minions everywhere seemly endless health, super speedy can't run or hide from, when you kill them you get jack shit and his team mate pops out of nowhere and revives him and his whole team while jumping continuously.

[@acrazedgunman7716]

thats basically just the borg

[@respectmyauthoritys8]

+KiwiPowerNZ also every single move he does is unblockable and poisons you which does 100 damage points every 2 seconds

[@NickCombs]

Bosses that are very repetitive & simple, but attempt to hide it with huge health bars. Such a waste of time!

[@madmarvels]

+Nick Combs Pretty much every large monster in Dragon's Dogma, especially in Bitterblack Isle. Not even close to being bosses, but they have a shit ton of health for some unknown reason. Plus the game was only challenging until you got some levels, then steamrolled everything.

[@edrickhuge4637]

+Kenneth Diehl is dragons dogma any good?

[@madmarvels]

Bahoz Taufik Yeah. Just prepare for hard fights at the start, then the rest of the game isn't that difficult anymore. Just a lot of monsters with tons of health.

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

+Nick Combs so...Dragons in Dragon age inquisition.

[@jpmmm333]

+Nick Combs The Ancient Dragon from Dark Souls 2. He's got a ridiculous amount of health a fairly limited and simple move-set... with almost all of it's attacks being OHKOs including a gigantic AoE. And just to top it all off the path leading to the boss might just be the hardest in the game, and you only have to do it every time you try to fight him. Thank god he's optional.

[@chillaxgaming2515]

quick time events to finish off a boss? literally every boss in star wars the force unleashed

[@eveescastle5866]

the ending of Shadow of Mordor... Highly disappointing.

[@JakeDriver]

Guess that showed them who's boss.

[@PolarAnemone]

Well they are BOSS battles. Genius...

[@ShiftySetax]

Jake Driver *pulls out Bad Pun sign*

[@CanisMythson]

Jake Driver Ha ha ha ha! No. +1 sin. DING

[@SpydersByte]

+X-plode lmao, you a little slow?

[@letslearntricking]

See yourself out. I'll get the door

[@vesuviusartorias7784]

You should have used the kingdom hearts one final boss for phases/transformations he goes through, like, six I think. Also I hate when you kick a bosses butt, but then the cutscene shows you all out of breath and the boss is like, "haha! You're weak!!!" And I'm like, "uh no? I just mopped the floor with you?"

[@tinomudamadzore3586]

Dennis Schetrompf definitely in Zelda games

[@Bitgedon]

Early ace combat series nostaliga “yellow squad inbound to intercept” me: *nearly kills the team leader without taking a scratch* team leader: “well its time i kicked your ass enough yellow squad move out”

[@hussein_bdn]

Or when they can't shut up about it, like calling you a "pathetic mortal" or something just as you start feeling bad for them because of how bad you're kicking their asses.

[@rhyzkarbonate1026]

In the Galactus fight, when Galactus grabs you, wiggle your stick and mash buttons as fast as you can to break free. When he activates his hyper laser power, turn on X-Factor; which will enable you to not take damage while blocking. And finally, when he is charging up his red orb of instant K.O, attack him until he cancels the attack. There you go, and have a nice day. :)

[@cliftonsavage7380]

RhyzKarbonate thx

[@thatfield977]

The bit on bosses having minions reminded me of the Big Daddy battles in BioShock, where you'd spend an inordinate amount of time clearing an area, making sure your weapons were all loaded with the right type of ammo, setting up tripwires and proximity mines, steeling yourself for what you know is going to be an arduous fight, and finally firing that first shot into the Big Daddy's face . . . only to have a bunch of splicers show up out of nowhere and completely destroy your well-laid plans.

[@thiendo9588]

Neptunia does that a lot. When you fight a boss you "tickle them" and you be like oh im only doing 10 damage on a boss that obviously have couple thousand must be a "lose for story reasons". When you die, you get a GAME OVER screen and get confused. Then realizing you doing 10 damages due to being underequipped JUST FOR THE BOSS, but not he enemies between.

[@JvNLGaming]

I hate the bosses who don't pay your salary after a hard month of working

[@revengergecko1941]

Hahaz good one

[@gabriel300010]

+JvNLGaming that is the worst tipe of boss

[@theoverlylongusername3966]

All the punz

[@ruttsuco.804]

I hate it when a boss has the ability to disarm you so you have to retrieve your weapon!

[@f.e.areproduce5298]

+Shulk and the gang I could say Bosses that restrict your character development : Delete your freedom in short .

[@f.e.areproduce5298]

***** No i meant boss that could also have stun stun STUN STUN SSTTUUNN SSSTTTUUUNNN SSSSTTTTUUUUNNNN ( And on and on and on and on he keeps stunning you you cannot move out ) .

[@AASAA1]

+Shulk and the gang ikr ? and it is especially annoying when it takes a bit of time to pick the weapon back up just like in dead rising 2, that cop that hangs people , the second i pick up my weapon he disarms me and it takes about 3 seconds to pick the weapon back up .

[@strongside4565]

+Shulk and the gang Tell that to Skyrim, not only could certain mobs and bosses disarm you, your weapon had a shitty hit box on the ground so it would fallout through floors and disappear.

[@jake_leg]

+Shulk and the gang Oh, you mean every Draugr Death Overlord? Yeah, that's why I just use magic. Try disarming my spells... BiiiiiiTCH!

[@FatherMulcahy10]

how about the boss fights where the boss has some kind of force push that send you across the feild and you have no choice but to run back at them only to have it happen again.

[@Halo3machenima]

AOTTG Colossal Titan... fuck that guy!

[@roolet]

That one worm thing from link to the past...

[@derp3870]

me too

[@aardbei54]

Roolet You mean Trolldorm? Yeah he's an asshole

[@zeromailss]

4:14 This is not even my final form! phase in bosses is not bad but sometimes annoying,like when on early game we beat that guy but cuz of the story he is not death but run away instead just to come back stronger

[@spongebobsquarepants2175]

?

[@nolanbreen7631]

Jake From State Farm I think that they are saying that they don't mind boss phases but don't like when bosses fake die

[@scrustle]

The multiple stages thing can be a great thing about boss fights if they're done properly. It creates a sense of rising tension and escalation that boss fights should all be about. Like half the boss fights in any Platinum game. And where did you get that Dragon's Dogma footage? Something's wrong with the textures on that dragon. Or is that what it looks like when you don't install the "HD" texture pack in the Dark Arisen version?

[@_imago]

Scrustle I think the problem is that when you fight the boss for the first time, you don't know that he/she has multiple health bars. I like multiple stages too where fight mechanics change but they should trigger with something like 50% of boss' health, not when you think you killed him/her.

[@lorathian]

Scrustle Agreed. The final boss to Kingdom Hearts 2 was probably one of my favorites simply because of just how they deescalated it (while also still escalating it because although the forms got less badass-looking, the boss himself got more difficult.)

[@TheGeoshark]

Though a BAD example would be something like the Best Friend from Persona Q, who will absolutely crush you into powder most of the fight, then it turns out it has endure when you get ready to kill it, but not just any endure, no. An endure that gives back half it's health, ends your turn, and gives it a massive boost. Fuck the Best Friend, worst boss in that game.

[@FestArc]

Scrustle Yeah, i was looking at the footage too thinking that it didn't look that bad when I played it.

[@ryan018181]

Scrustle Yeah I enjoy multiple stage boss fights. As long as I don't have to play all the stages every time. Like maybe on the fourth failed attempt, it'll give me a checkpoint after the first stage? And the best thing is, that kind of feature could be toggled easily.

[@cuppawolnir9031]

Don't act like we didn't recognise the Ornstein and Smough theme.

[@cuppawolnir9031]

It wasn't that bad, to be honest.

[@cuppawolnir9031]

*theme before you mentioned it

[@MASTERLINKXLZYX]

As someone who has just started playing through DS, Ornstein and Smough scare me.

[@cuppawolnir9031]

Daniel Shores I've always been weird about their fight, choosing to fight Ornstein in second stage over Smough.

[@cuppawolnir9031]

Daniel Shores Smough second stage scares me.

[@CsubAzUrmedve]

I have some for you: 1. Move spam: when the boss does that one move where you can't hurt it, because it does way to much damage or it's unreachable by any means. 2. Before it's death it launches one ranged attack and kills you both. Chances are you have to start over. 3. Time limit: it's just artifical difficulty. Cheap as hell... 4. When the boss causes environmental hazards that causes way more cheap deaths than the boss' attack itself. And thanks to that, your tactics are limited.

[@MooniPlays]

Bosses who have impenetrable armor that can only be hit when the enemy explodes into tiny minions of himself. Oh and he has a lazer for laughs. Looking at you he who dwells from Infamous Second Son.

[@manacress85]

+Hidden Butcher HA GAAAAYYY lol but i agree i fucking h8ed that little shit and once you beat him, you couldnt even turn into a giant angel or demon like him which was bull

[@nagitoaussiemandias]

MooniGaming You can damage him with heavy attacks in his massive form. my brother didnt even know you could hit the minions and beat him anyway with heavy attacks.

[@breauxski]

Why don't they make a game where YOU are the boss

[@alexperezhogin3053]

Angelo Rodriguez Does anyone remember Evolve?

[@Vanlens]

Fadedgogeta What's the name of the boss?

[@Weirdude-rj3rc]

Alexander P too bad that game sucked

[@joelb9665]

pretty sure that is dynasty warriors

[@Jota6666666]

Angelo Rodriguez Overlord has gone pretty much in that direction.

[@MrHeesman]

''You don't get to be a boss in a videogame by being nice to people.'' - Intro of the video *Looks up the release date of Undertale and compares it to the date the video was posted* Yeah, I figured as much.

[@Fanimati0n]

The "needing to lose" can be done well. Look at The Sorrow from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. The amount of ghosts in the river is directly proportionate to the amount of people you've killed. You have to wade through that river, being beaten by the souls of those you shot down. Endlessly walking down a stream obscured with fog with no end in sight. Only the ghosts of your victims, and The Sorrow. Unless you're cheap and use the fake death pill to end it instantly. I prefer to take the walk because it makes you realize how many people you killed. you lose track after around ten and figure you've probs killed 50 max, but they come by the hundreds, and you have to let it sink in how many people you ACTUALLY killed.

[@weneedaladder8384]

For me it was a pleasant walk through an empty stream. Non-lethal is OP in every mgs game.

[@Fanimati0n]

WeNeedALadder true

[@Shay96]

Or it can do what Demon's Souls did, where you can beat the Vanguard if you're incredibly careful and the game rewards you with some decent gear. However, since you're supposed to die in the tutorial area to progress, there's a cutscene where you get 1-shot by the Dragon God.

[@tudorciubotaru3497]

Westy Really?I've lost the Vanguard battle and met him only on that King of the Storm stage. -_-

[@MinerDude369]

Whitney's miltank....nuf said

[@matynavarro8548]

Not really...pn the last flopr or the mall thingey an NPC trades you a Machop for a Drowzee you can find in the route below.

[@snapdragon3790]

get a ghost type,normal moves don't affect them

[@matynavarro8548]

+Brandon Lorenzo Nah. The only one you can get without trading before Whitney is Gastly, and Rollout STEAMROLLS Gastly.

[@snapdragon3790]

Darn

[@Lsoxx95]

gen 1 brock used to tear my charmander to shreds

[@iissacc]

How about having to take damage to reach the boss- I'm looking at you nito and your almost impossible to dodge ground attack

[@dorito7699]

Just roll at the right time -I frames FTW

[@bobberjohnson4470]

Seath the shameless. Fuck that guy.

[@leobold565]

+Bobber Johnson you can be shameless as well, just full havels, curse resistance ring, a weapon with good dps+ Iron flesh and BOOM! profit.

[@DoomDogDan666PvEDestinyContent]

sammeboy11 Fume Knight. Screw what guy with his Fume Ultra Greatsword!

[@reubenjarvis2818]

+Bobber Johnson its when you go in to the first encounter with seath with tons of souls and humanity only to die and lose it all

[@poke548]

Having multiple stages is perfectly OK, so long as none of the stages violate any of the other rules, have appropriate health bars, and that each stage is similar enough that your immediate muscle memory and problem-solving mindset aren't wasted.

[@douglasgoodwon8227]

For better or worse, the intent of multiple stages is to throw you off and make you adapt. :|

[@poke548]

Douglas Goodwon Yes, I recognize that, but at the same time it should at least stay a bit grounded.

[@mentalpopcorn2304]

I love when there’s a hard boss you lose to for story reasons in the cutscene but is actually a harder boss fight you can win for cool bonuses, just ends the same.

[@Chino56751]

I've dealt with all of this. Now I'm going to find the people responsible for these bosses...

[@000ZeroDelta]

Take it easy, Wash, or I'll make Freckles sit on you.

[@Chino56751]

He's in Caboose's rifle.

[@johannes4123]

Agent Washington let's hope the devs responsible use the same cheap tactics

[@eveescastle5866]

Bosses that have magic that prevents you from attacking (IE sleep spells) it is the worst.

[@MayHugger]

Like Murdaw in Dragon Quest 6? Also in the second fight he has two stages, with the first round him being able to summon minions. And can choose two different actions in the same turn.

[@lyntonfleming]

Can I direct you all to turn your attention to Death from Dragons Dogma, Bitter Black Isle. Especially when he shows up around other, extremely dangerous enemies. Death waves his lantern and puts half your party to sleep. You now have 5 seconds to wake up those sleeping party members before he insta-kills them (and yourself if you're caught by it) with his scythe... Which generally has a range of "the size of the room you're in". And that's while avoiding being killed by the other enemies that are just chilling. Some aren't too bad, but the Corrupted Pawn's can be a pain, since they seem to LOVE spamming spells that knock-back, slow, blind, darken or otherwise cripple you in some way.

[@curatorsmodern]

"Ladies and gentlemen, we have entered froglock" - Dunkey

[@Gingrman-mx4sp]

At the end of Halo 2, there is a boss fight in which you must battle a boss who not only has minions, but is also invincible until one of the Marines shoots him with a Beam Rifle. The boss can also kill you in 1 hit (at least on higher difficulties), and effortlessly vanquishes all your NPCs helpers (who don't comprehend the boss's invincibility and have no sense of self-preservation). Halo 2 is still a great game though.

[@derekmensch3601]

Also can't die from an energy sword to the face back ass or balls

[@johndims5098]

Tartarus? Very easy kill, specially if you know what you're doing

[@Gingrman-mx4sp]

John Dims Not on Legendary.

[@johndims5098]

Ging3rman117 oh yes, I only ever played on legendary

[@colbyarioto6104]

Ging3rman117 Tried easy with scarab beam skull. Impossible.

[@JD867]

All 'invulnerable' bosses that only take damage at specific times in specific hitboxes need a health bar that you can keep track of. Looking at you, Warframe. -_-

[@kurosakikun96]

boss battles where you need to win but in terms of the story you technically lose, not so much a problem in the fight except they generally are hard as hell, and it feels like a waste of time to beat a boss then realize its your character thats at deaths door when the cutscene comes around

[@hezechiahjones8365]

I hate those kind of things especially when it's a flawless victory and you kick the bosses ass but all of a sudden the cutscenes shows you half dead and crawling on the floor and the boss almost untouched.

[@Underworlder5]

+kurosakikun96 what about the first shroob battle in mario and luigi partners in time? the fight goes like normal, but one of them always uses a move that instantly kills both mario and luigi before you get to kill them all

[@kurosakikun96]

+very mad guy those fights are annoying, but at least you dont have to win that fight, otherwise id make mention of the 1st Bowser battle in Paper Mario as well

[@Underworlder5]

kurosakikun96 i was trying to make an example of when forced loss battles are used right (as in actually making you lose, not forcing you to win only to realize you actually lose the fight story-wise)

[@kurosakikun96]

+very mad guy ah ok, yeah thats an example of it being done right

[@dicksonmattxenoblade6491]

I hate it when they abuse the flaws in your other party member's AI.

[@DellOsso]

Un-Blockable Instant KO moves like in FF13 when Orphan uses his death technique that has an 80% chance of instantly killing your leader. Or the fact after you kill him, you have to fight him again, but he's only able to be damaged when staggered. He has 3 of the 6 cheapest tricks bosses can have. Un-Blockable moves, second life, and partial invulnerability.

[@TheFram1234]

Gumby yup one of those bullshit tricks is the fact he has like 5 different forms

[@Ceece20]

I'll admit it. Orphan took me a Google search to finish. Yeah I'll admit to being bad to have to look it up cause of that insta kill.

[@ThePheonix66]

Okay, just to make one thing clear. Ornstein and Smough can definitely be hard if you dont know how the fight goes. More than anything, its a matter of learning their attack patterns, and in my opinion, Ornstein is the easier of the two to kill, both in regular AND Super form. Yeah, Smough is slow but he hits quite hard. Speaking of which, to counter the fact that you have to fight both at once? Only damage the one you're looking to kill first.

[@tigervigesaa1866]

Ganon in the original Zelda game how was I supposed to know I had to find the silver arrows

[@Noodles4Anime]

No, no. The worst "Supposed to Lose to" Bosses are the ones that require you to win the battle, then after the battle, see your character lose.

[@SinStar87]

+Noodles4Anime Those are horrible.

[@HanabiraKage]

+Noodles4Anime Blade and Soul: The entire game, you've been placed in either unwinnable fights or cutscenes where the main villainess and her posse instantly kill or incapacitate you with one hit, all the while gloating about how much you suck. When you actually get to fight her for real, she's weak as hell and does jack shit for damage. And to make matters worse, the following cutscene has her punch you across the room for no discernable reason, acting like she's been beating you to a pulp the whole time. Oh, and she gets away seemingly unhurt.

[@TG.Trippy]

when your on your last bit of health and you start doing good but the boss uses a super op unblockable finisher move ._.

[@TG.Trippy]

and when you forget to grab checkpoints and have to restart the whole thing ._. looking at you borderlands and mario

[@thelandofyellow7714]

+Ze Crazly Koala I feel your pain :(

[@meenlord6177]

On this game I forgot the name by now bit I remember having 8 party members with 999 HP im about to beat the boss then he uses some chain lightning it dose about 500 to each person.. I thought it wasn't so bad... But right after that he uses a wall of flames which ends the fight with another 500 damage

[@themonarchserupt4051]

+Ze Crazly Koala skyrim: low life dovakhin runds to dragon with 1 hp left already swinging his sword, dragon bites of dovakhins head

[@hyperactive2823]

I absolutely adore this channel. Y'all are legitimately funny. Even though I might not have liked it at first, this grew on me. Now you're one of my top watched channels. Thanks outsidexbox!

[@stewartsaurus5796]

I hate it when bosses show up unannounced.

[@TTRPGSarvis]

The MOST annoying "Supposed to Lose" fights are the ones that you need to make it a certain distance through, and THEN get insta-killed. Why should it matter how far into the fight you get?

[@minecr4ft1z]

Multiple stages? Might I direct you in the direction of the fuckiNG NUCLEAR THRONE???

[@tieuucanh8958]

Cmon if u gone as far as throne II then killing it is easy

[@minecr4ft1z]

Shigani Kanaki Yeah but the first time is satanic

[@CatThingy]

Don't forget the vans!

[@lucascufre7924]

Fish can roll

[@Crichjo32]

Or Simmons from Resident Evil 6. That fucker just refuses to die.

[@fuzk4478]

I really hate bosses who make you go back to your last save if they defeat you, but once you beat them, they defeat you in the cutscene anyway.

[@premsinha9415]

Bosses in fighting games had: No low block. You could not mix up by jumping and sweeping. The ability to read controller input. They just knew when to counter.

[@RtistiqSkubie]

A. K. A. The wrath of (Shao) Khan!

[@jonathanshirley4366]

Worst Boss move: Being a Dark Souls boss.

[@hariman7727]

Hah! I disagree with you on ALMOST every boss. Except Bed of Chaos. Because Bed of Chaos is the one boss that the DEVS regret. Otherwise, all the other bosses are beatable, if you are patient enough to learn their attacks/patterns, and especially if you tailor your equipment specifically for each boss. BTW: I've beaten Dark Souls using Keyboard and Mouse. It's hard, but not impossible, and Dark Souls bosses are low on my list of "unfair". Granted, said Dark Souls bosses are also high on my list of "beastly hard".

[@jonathanshirley4366]

+Herman Cillo bro, ever heard of "Hyperbole"? You know, the art of exxageration.

[@tsukino7751]

+Herman Cillo ds1 has most unfair bosses in series

[@tsukino7751]

+Herman Cillo Kappa demon

[@tsukino7751]

+Herman Cillo that one hole in gaping dragon arena

[@Da1337Man]

noone is going to mention Nyx from Persona 3 for regaining Health? few things will crush your soul into oblivion more than hacking away at that fucker for 2.5 hours when you're finally 2 hits away from killing him, and then... *he charms one of your party members who then in turn cast Diarahan on him, healing him back to full*

[@helmutrn623]

+Da1337Man agree with you man... tons of health.... multiple stages..... multiple elemental resistances.... tons of damages..... DAMN IT NYX!!!

[@Maruhodo]

i really hate mitsuru after that...

[@helmutrn623]

never ever bring Yukari to a Nyx battle XD

[@helmutrn623]

Rukifellth The Shadow haha yeah, it does not take me that long, with knowledge and the wisdom to apply it in a tactic can bring the upper hand against Nyx...

[@kebabremoveth5257]

Pretending your dead then becoming a giant spider crab that poops cultists.

[@compedycakemine6960]

I don't know if this counts, but I HATE it when games have good boss fights in them only to have the final/story-significant boss be devolved into a QTE. Like Dying Light. At one point you have to fight one of Ryse's henchmen in a pretty tense melee fight. And then you meet big boss Ryse himself aaaaaaand..... Just press the on-screen prompts and he dead. Yaaay!

[@robertgronewold3326]

What about bosses that won't stay dead. Seymour from Final Fantasy 10 anybody?

[@cuckoophendula8211]

Robert Gronewold In recent memory, RE6 is a really big offender of this.

[@creature3628]

Cuckoo Phendula RE in general I think. Fucking god damnit Wesker.

[@Burnhardt1985]

Robert Gronewold He is dead. He's just 'Unsent', or basically a zombie.

[@michaelflores2717]

Robert Gronewold Liquid Snake much!? MGS1 of course. HAHA

[@FlamingHoboMan]

Robert Gronewold lady yunalesca is a good example for this video because she has 3 stages where if you dont have certain states ailments on when she changes stages then it is an instant game over. or Sin that casts giga-gravitron creating an instant game over if you dont defeat him fast enough!!

[@ConcasicoWoodworks]

-Bad camera angles in a boss fight (bad desing maybe but works for their advantage) -One-hit-kill unblockable attacks that for some reason they decide to execute multiple times in a row ( I'm looking at you Ebrietas from Bloodborne >:( so annoying ) - Broken hit boxes

[@MihzvolWuriar]

Bosses that require a certain action to defeat, like a last "killing move" Like that T-rex in Turok, you spent 300 bullets, 8 rockets, 30 laser batteries, and the shit is ALIVE, how the fuck you kill it? With a pocket knife of course, silly of me to not think of that before...

[@evanfarley5630]

Or fighting a boss in an rpg your supposed to lose to near the end of the game but you're so over-leveled you one-shot them then get the cut scene for losing, actually that's less annoying and just makes you feel bad for playing said game too much. *ahem*HyperdimesionNeptuniaRe;Birth1*ahem*

[@loverofjesusMKII]

Fucking Destiny does literally all of this shit

[@_imago]

loverofjesusMKII They either put mechanics or make the bosses bullet sponges. I think Destiny has enough bullet sponges in strikes.

[@best_bud1]

which boss had multiple stages? which boss were you supposed to lose to? Destiny's bosses had minions, loads of health, and one hit MELEE kills (unless a burn was active) so those were avoidable.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Best_bud1 Productions Destiny is garbage.

[@crashencastles1502]

skolas has muti stages and AOE

[@sneekylilbast]

Because Destiny has the worst and most boring bosses I've seen in a long time. Every boss is pretty much take cover, shoot them, take cover again, deal with minions, shoot him, take cover and so on. Puts me off the game so much.

[@sayj7748]

Five words: SHOA KAHN MORTAL KOMBAT 9. Doesn't get any cheaper than that.

[@chachingboy1]

MACHINEFEIGN A lot of people are complaining about him but he isn't too bad. You can block most (If not all) attacks, plus he often taunts and leaves himself open for combos. Assuming you know a combo with that character, and if not just go in the moves list.

[@sayj7748]

chachingboy1 Wait, so that spear is blockable?

[@chachingboy1]

MACHINEFEIGN If I recall correctly.

[@sayj7748]

chachingboy1 He was worse in the older games, though.

[@cowsbeflyin2428]

MACHINEFEIGN crouch or jump over it, you cant block it.

[@17joren]

Rather similar to a couple of your entries are when you're required to dodge/block a series of attacks before you have the opportunity to retaliate. For example, many of the Lego games require you to dodge objects thrown at you while the boss is invincible, then you have to find a way to stun them. As if head trauma suddenly makes your bricks separable.

[@josefmuller1641]

Shout-out to Taboo from Smash bros Brawl. That dick was impossible on easy.

[@josefmuller1641]

That´s crazy! Don´t know why that never crossed my mind but it explains why he was able to overwhelm me no matter which character I had.

[@EdgyLemonKing]

What about those boss fight you have to win, but during the end cut scene you actually end up getting killed by said boss. like what was the point in me beating you in the first place just to die? But yet if you lose the fight you have to start over.

[@Rantam1]

To be fair to Dragons Dogma, you fight the unbeatable boss at the very start of the game, where you don't have any items to use up.

[@TheTriforceDragon]

+itachi2374 And it ends once you take one hit or a small amount of time passes, transitioning right into a cut scene giving no time to think you failed. You also deal zero damage so it should be obvious the fight with the giant dragon at the start of the game, with you in a shirt and with a rusty sword, is unwinnable.

[@anothercub6958]

Nearly every RPG I played, the boss has a special move that kills almost all your party at once and restores health equivalent to that damage.

[@spiderjerusalem8284]

Every fucking final boss in a Modern Sonic game! where you loose rings every second, so it becomes more like a battle againts time than an actual boss fight, and if you loose all your rings you die instantly.

[@mikeswartz5629]

Boss fights should be a personal 1v1 but instead far cry primal the main boss sends tons of enemies at you constantly

[@Hegurgurk]

Warden eternal from halo 5 guardians. he's the only one in the campaign, and you fight like 7 of him.

[@jiraffe3790]

I hate the multiple stage battles. Especially when the boss comes back just to keep rushing you and keeps killing you.

[@anthonywayne1928]

Honestly surprised Shao Kahn didn't make an appearance on this list.

[@kieranedwards153]

Anthony Wayne took me 15 tries to beat him

[@TheSpongyMallard]

Every boss in Destiny has 4 out of 6 of these.

[@Igor19485]

Fontaine was easy as fuck though. Probably one of the most disappointing final bosses.

[@hariman7727]

SPOILERS AHOY! Fontaine was a late addition, mandated by the studio, or another higher up. The game was supposed to end after the big confrontation at the end of the prior area, but the suits/higher ups wanted an action level and big final boss instead.

[@Igor19485]

Herman Cillo Ah, that explains it I guess. Bioshock was a decent challenge, especially for a casual gamer like me, so It really surprised me how easy the final boss was.

[@jackp5539]

What difficulty did you play on though?

[@Dargonhuman]

Now I know why the Fontaine bit felt so rushed and tacked-on - it was totally rushed and tacked-on!

[@TMAC_93X]

Igor19485 2k made them put in a boss fight. Ken Levin said he would never do one again

[@sebastian_the_fool3726]

Bosses that you have to defeat multiple/two segments in order to beat them.

[@Fenizrael]

Complaining about Dark Souls being cheap is like complaining about KFC making you fat.

[@johndims5098]

Truu

[@agmflatline808]

+Fenizrael Dark Souls wasn't really cheap, after a while, you sorta get used to the game being bullshit, and you learn to use some of the game's bullshit against it, if that makes sense? What i'm trying to say is that you can literally bullshit the bullshitter.

[@Slimurgical]

+AGM Flatline And then there's people like me who play it when looking for ways to hide poor game design in video games, imo, Dark Souls is notorious for it, hiding behind the "the gameplay works canonically" crap they have with the whole "Death is part of the whole story" by making the game cheap on purpose, making it predictable to pessimists, though it's just cheap, not difficult. Namely for the second one, not because they've run out of ideas, but because WAY too many enemies can be dealt with similarily... and some enemies have instant damage moves, like the Spider Drone Zombies, even if they normally do huge damage.

[@agmflatline808]

Wanna say how Dark Souls has poor game design? Because, to my knowledge, the gameplay is like any other 3rd person fantasy game with the damage ramped up. Sure, sometimes it can be janky, but after you learn how to look past the shit and use some of it against the games mechanics themselves. Dont get me wrong, they kinda dropped the ball with DS2, but they didnt run out of ideas. Its like saying the ran out of ideas with Bloodborne, which they didnt. To be real, I just think you didnt get far enough into it to accept its difficulty or learn to use bullshit, so you got buttmad, died a whole bunch of times, then found reasons to say the gameplay or mechanics or whatever sucked.

[@dufftheduff7335]

+Fenizrael Only reason that game is hard is because of the terrible controls and clunky as fuck character movement.

[@ryanschroeder3535]

FUCKING SHAO KAHN!!!

[@seaghaninfluence7032]

He'd literally spam one giant attack that you couldn't recover from. That should have been on the list.

[@ryanschroeder3535]

Seaghán Influence I hate that fight so much

[@misterchips358]

+Ryan Films That.Fucking.Hammer.

[@canale39youification]

Not only spams OP attack, but has also those fucking random invincibility frames....

[@prussiawillrise8237]

God, I hated that fight. Fucking spamming his hammer throw.

[@I3leh]

where is sephiroth from kingdom hearts ? he was a pain in the ass took me so long to beat him.

[@lordofthepatrick]

Bosses like the final boss of god of war Ares takes away everything you've collected upgraded and learned how to use through the game and leaves you to use a entirely new weapon just for the last fight of the game

[@TXejas19]

not necessarily the boss but i hate when you are fighting them and the buttons that have been using the entire game decide not to respond to your touch or respond seconds later. thanks game designers lol

[@colorphone5154]

HEY the minions in boss fights can be made well as long as there aren't to many of them and they are all called at once

[@seanwattsmoore8507]

color phone no they're annoying

[@ayylmao3565]

Bioshock Infinite should have been used as an example for the boss's minions.

[@revengergecko1941]

The most annoying boss in that i faced was the ghost. She just kept summoning minions all the time and healing herself everytime i died:/ i literally had to go from medium to easy difficulty just to beat her

[@ayylmao3565]

RageGecko Yeah, that's the boss I was talking about.

[@PunkDisciple23]

Jinpachi's demon fireball took at least 50% of your health. He also had a bunch of stun moves which he could easily combo out of

[@Heavenlyhounds96]

Nothing worse than the regenerative boss like Chef Antoine from Dead Rising 2.

[@DoomDogDan666PvEDestinyContent]

Who does all these but is still an enjoyable boss? Senator Armstrong from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. C'mon. I can't be the only one who likes that game, right?

[@mountaindank7817]

I like that game too, but it also has the "supposed to die to the boss without knowing It" problem the first time you fight sam. I was kicking his ass but it turns out you had to fucking die. For story reasons.

[@DoomDogDan666PvEDestinyContent]

Mountain Dank I guess you're still meant to be sloppy at the start so, Well done for putting up a good fight on the train! =)

[@DoomDogDan666PvEDestinyContent]

0hpitym3 =3

[@TheDrunkenHetzer]

That boss was fucking epic.

[@DoomDogDan666PvEDestinyContent]

Seth Cox indeed

[@standeryck7477]

there was this one fight in sinjid (a flash game) where the boss walks away, heals himself awhile spawning zombies AND this is the toughest game since dark souls

[@Torthrodhel]

Even worse is when you're supposed to die to a boss for story reasons... but it still gives you a game over if you die before you're 'meant' to.