6 Liter 12 Cylinder Radial Racing Engine - AngeTheGreat Engine Simulator

I made this crazy thing. Its interesting methinks. Its got VTEC in the form of variable valve timing and lift as well as the standard spark timing advance, its got crazy intake and exhaust flow to make it run this well at high rpms and each cylinder is a perfectly square ratio of 86mm bore and 86mm stroke so each displaces precisely 500cc, in total 6.00 Liters, or 366 cubic inches for those of us who enjoy measuring in Freedom Units. It reaches 283 mph in the video and made 1838 horsepower. Quite a frightening little monster.
You can download the engine here: catalog.engine...
#angethegreat #enginesimulator #topspeed #300mph #2000hp

[@momiswatchingyou2488]

1:07 that fart 💀

[@Avetho]

Lol it do be sounding like a fart tho Precisely the right RPM to go from 10% speed back to 100% for a split second to make a fart XD

[@beam-driver]

😂

[@kelstra1997]

It's my understanding that four stroke radial engines must always have an odd number of cylinders per bank. Not to worry you have created an amazing simulation.

[@Avetho]

You are correct in that radial engines do have an odd number of cylinders, that being for balance and an even separation between each combustion stroke. This one technically has an odd number of cylinders too, but only in that its a set of 4 radial 3 cylinder engines mashed together, resulting in a total of 6 evenly spaced pairs of cylinders firing in the opposite direction to the overall progression of combustion strokes. I'm glad you liked it :)

[@PhrankTube]

Au Contraire, my friend. The even # of cylinders/bank (12 in this case) can easily be achieved because this design does not use a cam ring. Use of a cam ring necssitates an odd # of cylinders/bank; this design is using an OHC so each cylinder is separated from the cam ring design that uses OHV (pushrods). A good example of an outstanding radial engine that used an even # of cylinders/bank was the highly successful Yakovlev M-501; it was the biggest piston radial engine ever built and it utilized 6 cylinders/bank. Avetho's design has definitely "got it right"!

[@brianb-p6586]

The rendering (by the simulation software) shows the cylinder configuration very poorly. It is, as the author suggested, four rows of three cylinders each... but they look like they are all in the same row (the same plane), which they can't be due to the crank and connecting rod arrangement. The four rows are staggered in angle, with an odd number of cylinders per row, so it can fire evenly. No one would actually build this, because it is far too large in diameter and length for the displacement. A competent 12-cylinder overhead cam design has six cylinders in each radial row, with the cylinders aligned between rows; it is effectively the same as a six-bank engine with two cylinders per bank. Actual examples of engines of that configuration (which also fires evenly) are the Curtiss H-1640 Chieftain (with 12 cylinders), the Armstrong Siddeley in-line radial engines (with 14 to 36 cylinders) and Bristol Hydra (with 16 cylinders).

[@brianb-p6586]

@PhrankTube the M-501 does have an even number of cylinders per bank, but that's not the issue. The usual radial constraint for even firing is an odd number of cylinders per *row* and that's probably what @kelstra1997 meant. The M-501 has seven banks of six cylinders each (using multi-bank engine terminology), but that's six rows of seven cylinder per row (using radial engine terminology). @kelstra1997 is suggesting that there should be an odd number of cylinders _per row_ and that is true of both the M-501 (7/row) and this simulation (3/row). @kelstra1997 mistakenly thought (because it looks that way until you understand the crank rendering) that this is a single-row 12-cylinder (an even number of cylinders in a single row); I initially thought that, too.

[@PhrankTube]

@@brianb-p6586 For both the M-501 and M-503: The camshaft for each cylinder bank was driven through bevel gears by a vertical shaft at the rear of the bank. Since there is no cam ring involved it is (theoretically) possible to have an even number of cylinders per row (12 in the case of Avetho's fantasy) . . . . not very practical but it "could" be done. Thank you for your comments . . . . . I just love this stuff!

[@white_mage]

biggest chainsaw engine ever made

[@gnrtx-36969]

Chainsaws use rotary right?

[@white_mage]

@@gnrtx-36969 you're a rotary

[@goobner420]

​@@gnrtx-369692 stroke 1 cylinders usually

[@EduEnYT]

1:06 uh oh.... stinky!

[@Avetho]

Lol the 1 key on my keyboard is a little bit damaged so sometimes it forgets that I'm pressing it for a moment XD

[@melomelo420]

XD

[@decespugliatorenucleare3780]

not the first time I hear an engine shitting itself

[@Avetho]

@@decespugliatorenucleare3780 Thanks, you made me laugh so suddenly I coughed XD

[@sigmamale4147]

Ah yes, a 12 cylinder 6L radial going 13k rpm 😂

[@Avetho]

Its got them _full Obamium internals_ to let it reach such speeds XD

[@daniguay88]

It sounds amazing and horrible at the same time. I love it.

[@Liammcgowan]

400 inline four would be a cool simulation... those bikes are nuts.

[@MaratMatkasimovNWS]

THIS IS HIGH REVVING ENGINE

[@leebauer6431]

For me, the engine gets louder when I apply the throttle. And to hear it in slow-mo while starting, I had to just do it at full volume to actually hear it because of how quiet it was.

[@boco000]

This seems cursed as well and i love this sound Lol

[@PaddyPatrone]

There are no 12 cylinder radials. You always have uneven numbers on one crank. Like 3, 5, 7, 9. If you gow with two rows you have 6, 10, 14, 18

[@Avetho]

Its why this one is supposed to be 4 banks of 3 cylinders, the program shows banks by equal shading, so the three brightest are one bank, the ones a shade darker are another, and so on. In essence, the crankshaft is similar to that of a regular flatplane inline 4.

[@PhrankTube]

Au Contraire, my friend. The even # of cylinders/bank (12 in this case) can easily be achieved because this design does not use a cam ring. Use of a cam ring necssitates an odd # of cylinders/bank; this design is using an OHC so each cylinder is separated from the cam ring design that uses OHV (pushrods). A good example of an outstanding radial engine that used an even # of cylinders/bank was the highly successful Yakovlev M-501; it was the biggest piston radial engine ever built and it utilized 6 cylinders/bank. Avetho's design has definitely "got it right"!

[@brianb-p6586]

Any two-row or four-row has an even number cylinders, regardless of the number of cylinders per row (meaning per crank throw). This engine is supposed to be a four-row with 3 cylinders per row (with the cylinders drawn very poorly so that is not apparent), so it would fit conventional odd number per row design. It is also possible to have an even number of cylinders per row and still fire evenly, as long as there are an even number of rows with the cylinders aligned (not staggered) between rows. The Curtiss H-1640 Chieftain (with 12 cylinders), Armstrong Siddeley in-line radial engines (with 14 to 36 cylinders) and Bristol Hydra (with 16 cylinders), are all examples of this.

[@brianb-p6586]

The rendering of the crank assembly makes sense,@@Avetho, but the cylinders are rendered as if they are all in one plane.

[@brianb-p6586]

An even number of cylinders per row can work,@@PhrankTube, but that was not the intention of this model. The M-501 has a odd number of cylinders per row (7), in six rows aligned so it was effectively had seven banks of six cylinders each.

[@stevenborham1584]

Seeing that most radials are aero engines I would love to see a larger capacity (+27 Litre) version run at aero engine rpms (between 600 and 3200rpm). Have always wanted to know if a radial 12 could sound as good as say a RR Merlin. No engine like this even got prototyped, with the nearest being the Curtiss Chieftain twin row inline 12 cyl radial of 1340 cubic inches. Apparently it worked well but USAAC wanted to stay with inline engines instead.

[@Avetho]

That sounds like a great idea. I think I'll try it today!

[@stevenborham1584]

@@Avetho Great! Look forward to it.

[@brianb-p6586]

At almost 22 litres, the Chieftain is pretty close to your desired size. That would be an interesting engine to simulate, although I don't know if the simulator can handle a six-bank 12-cylinder engine. If the simulator can do multi-bank engines properly, the whole Armstrong Siddeley family of in-line radial engines could be tried, although only two (Hyena - 5 banks of 3 cyl. for 15 cylinder, and Deerhound - 7 banks of 3 cyl. for 21 cylinders) were ever built. The Chieftain would be the same thing, with 6 banks of 2 cyl. for 12 cylinders. The Deerhound and Bristol Hydra do appear in the simulator's database, as "V0.1.14A Armstrong Siddeley Deerhound Radial-21 1935" and "V0.1.14A Bristol Hydra (Double Octagon) Radial 16 1931".

[@stevenborham1584]

Thankyou. Yes I since found the deerhound simulation on another sim channel and it sounds very "inline-ish" which was quite a revelation. Haven't found the Hydra yet but based on the trends of round and vee engines I don't suspect it wil sound like a V-16, most likely no different to a double row 18.@@brianb-p6586

[@TheUchihasparky]

0:52 Black hole simulation

[@GokantheHusky]

Wtf? Does this radial have VTEC?

[@Avetho]

Yes, yes it does XD

[@GokantheHusky]

@@Avetho I knew it XD

[@CognitoH4zrd]

If I could fit this on my bike, it would make anyone who uses an electric bike s*** their pants.

[@Avetho]

You'd also easily reach speeds fast enough to travel back in time to scare them all over again XD

[@CognitoH4zrd]

@@Avetho We must go back to the future!

[@johnwieliczko6195]

It has 12 cylinders, so why shouldn’t it revv as high as an f1 car?

[@Avetho]

I did try to make it go higher than 15k but I was having trouble with that and I wanted the engine to have a decent low-range, so this is a good compromise I think XD

[@HPsawus]

Caveman logic

[@Payday5]

Certified caveman

[@CryoiX]

Sounds like a....... Ferrari dam....

[@pazsion]

Now it needs multi point fuel and ignition Mild vortex tweaks maybe If your trying to stay non induced 🤓

[@Avetho]

Well, technically it has that, I believe I set the turbulence higher than normal, though I could've set it higher, and the ignition is only simulated via points but I did give it aggressive spark advance as the rpm rises. I'm gonna buy the full game the moment Ange releases it because its just that cool, he's putting in forced induction and Wankel engines and automatic sound loop generation for other games and all that jazz, it'll be awesome :D

[@scellyyt]

i thought the mouse cursor was a fly on my screen

[@Avetho]

Lol hope you didn't hurt your screen :P

[@scellyyt]

lmao don't worry its fine

[@datgamerboy123]

I thought it was too 😭

[@David29404]

How do i load enhines

[@David29404]

Engines

[@Avetho]

If you're asking how to add engines that you download into the program, you go to engine-sim-v0.1.14a\assets\engines, make a new folder in there for your engines or just dump the .mr files in there, then open Engine Sim, click the Load Engine button, and browse to the directory that contains the engine you want to load. Edit: Its far more elegant than it used to be, you used to have to edit another file to change the directory, but Ange thankfully implemented the current method which is far easier and far superior.

[@pieguy6992]

Slowest Hellcat:

[@last8exile]

Bocchi the Engine

[@Avetho]

Lol I never thought about the default color scheme XD Now I can't unsee it :P

[@Liammcgowan]

lol fuel consumption... and airflow.. jesus..

[@YouShisha1393]

Can you share a file?

[@Avetho]

Its in the Engine Sim catalog site: catalog.engine-sim.parts/parts/183

[@YouShisha1393]

@@Avetho thanks.

[@user-jq2rf4nf3o]

What? No master rod or articulating rods? Junk simulation . It's surely not A Right 1820

[@Avetho]

The thing is, you can make master and slave rods, given Ange's own radial examples have them, but I didn't know how to make them when I made this video and I still don't quite understand how.

[@user-jq2rf4nf3o]

That is what research is for, Crack open the books and learn... @@Avetho 🤪🤗 You can do it! (After you work on one all the rest are a piece of cake 😁😁😁😁

[@jorgej9288]

Does this one even exist?

[@Avetho]

Nope, the only Radial-12 engines I know of were the 26.9 liter Curtiss H-1640 and the larger Wright XR-2120, a 34.7 liter water cooled motor that Wright had little faith in and was made for the US Navy in the 1930s for the purpose of making faster airplanes since foreign aircraft were getting even faster. There's also the 16 cylinder Bristol Hydra, 25.7 liters in two octagonal radial banks. Radials can be made with even cylinder counts but its just more balanced with an odd number due to the way it fires every other cylinder across two rotations in a four-stroke cycle. There are two stroke radials out there, and in fact Nordberg made giant even cylinder count radial engines for power generation, two stroke diesels like 484 liters and making a stable and reliable 2000 horsepower, or nearly 1.5 megawatts.

[@caidonmorris8477]

Subaru 😅

[@jackmagnium6115]

sounds like a fart

[@AyaGonzalez-wh7xq]

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[@thomassantos722]

Thats too stupid. A 12 Zyl. radial does not exist and if so, it wouldn´t work.

[@brianb-p6586]

There are no four-row radial engines with three cylinders per row (which is what this model is intended to represent), but it would work as a conventional multi-row radial engine. A 12-cylinder radial also works with six cylinders per row and two rows aligned with each other (not staggered); the Curtiss H-1640 Chieftain was an example.