6 New Weapon Loadouts for Season 4

[@shadynas7y]

"reddits nightmare" 😆😆😆 So funny that with season 4 and the MP5 nerf , I feel like heavy now has the highest number of comp viable weapons of any class and yesterday the redditors were in full force crying about the update

[@patrikpetrucha5536]

Medium Is Still best. Now they have Something to deal with snipers 🤣

[@Khaotism]

@@patrikpetrucha5536the pike is so op lol

[@OmniscientPC]

I’m super curious to see the TTKs between the Lewis, Deagles, and the M60 now with all the buffs

[@Maximusls2400]

Im strugglin with the deagles

[@Vortx110]

​@@Maximusls2400 Yeah me too , it seems that some my shots are not even regerstering

[@patrikpetrucha5536]

Yea same some shots are not registered or hip fire Is total ass 🤣 Ppl calling it OP they are not M60 Is better.​@@Maximusls2400

[@alethebest2350]

​@@Vortx110 if you ever played valorant, the deagles seem similar to that way of shooting, high accuracy on the first shots, and it lowers upon shooting for a long time

[@Vortx110]

@@alethebest2350 ohh , That's the case with deagles, Thanks bro

[@_Smoothiii]

This season brought me back into this game, best season so far imo. Love the pike, chef’s kiss

[@lefonwastaken3393]

Please make a video on the best weapons for each class now. I feel like xp is no longer the overall best choice of light class and AK and FCAR are too similar now

[@NinTheLost]

yeah AK and FCAR are too similar

[@Dudeli]

Light: Still XP Medium: Pike Heavy: Deagles

[@spacenumber1149]

XP feel really bad now, :( XP doesn't need base damage nerf, only range nerf or damage fall off scaling nerf.

[@willshea3078]

Xp is still the best choice but the m11 and LH1 are much better now with the scopes, still outclassed tho with time to kill. for medium I’d say the model 1987 since the AK got nerfed, and with the new scopes added you will catch a lot of people off gaurd while ADS. For heavy the SA1216 didn’t get nerfed and it is still probably the best, but the LMGs got a huge buff with much less recoil. The deagles are the best at range but get outclassed by the LMGs and SA12 at close range

[@Ramon_N]

​@@spacenumber1149 it is still good

[@phatandlazycow9284]

Also with no new specialization this season, do we feel like any class is missing a niche? I think riot shield and dual blades may need something other than dematerializer for medium, but would want to know what mains think.

[@gogogusto]

@Embark listen to this man. Yes they do need something, specifically a gap-closer of some sort if you ask me.

[@tatertot8669]

The winch claw

[@CARTDEMOLISHER]

jackie wells is an awesome name rip the homie

[@AbcAbc-po5sl]

I love CP

[@jax5683]

If I'm being honest, I'm not a fan of the new light shotty. It feels awkward

[@Soarlex_]

Trust me, as soon as you get used to the rithm of the shots that shit slapsss

[@jax5683]

@@Soarlex_ I've played with it more and it's super hit or miss. The range is WAYYYY too short, even for a shotgun.

[@Ramon_N]

​@@jax5683 Its an shorty for light, did u expected an model 1887 for light??????????😂 U are crazy dude

[@jax5683]

@Ramon_N naw it's just crazy how harsh the fall off gradient is. Like, I take one step back and my damaged is halved.

[@Ramon_N]

@@jax5683 its because its not like the cut off shorty that have only two bullets, so the damage per shot is reduced to balance

[@Gymrat808]

No defib on medium is trolling bruh

[@slep10101]

Nah having double movement plus frag/mines can be really valuable a regular res isn’t that hard either

[@lightskininpain8568]

@@slep10101especially with dematerializer, never need to use defibs when you can just rat

[@Swysherr]

Or just don’t die. It’s not that hard to think about your play before you make it

[@Tobi-tj7dg]

@@Swysherr this guy must have a crazy KD talking like that.

[@SomeoneThatUnknownCat]

I was so glad to have a sniper nerf only to jump into a match and realize that every single medium is a sniper now.

[@baIius]

Reddit The Finals community needs to be banned into Oblivion. Its all skill issue ignorance.

[@zagazsanology]

You’ve been going so hard with the uploads for S4! Hope you got your stream issues resolved!

[@firstpersonsnooter2519]

My game has been running like crap this season. Kyoto and Skyway Stadium have been reducing my frames to oblivion. Anyone else having fps issues or is it just me?

[@ogre5175]

I've had fps issues since season 3 sometimes I have to close the game just to have it working again I'm on Xbox

[@CAPITANBERD]

Yea season 3 was bad but rn the performance is god awfull,i kinda fixed the issue by playing on windowed

[@blvdes]

heavy main here for cashout/TA I run winch, deagles, pyro, grav, rpg, power shift/bank it I do mesh shield, ks23, frag, barricade, rpg

[@nevermore885]

The Deagles have been super fun to use but, the M60 whit the red dot is AMAYZING!!! Love it so much. Rocking it hard. And agree whit the goo grenade, super underrated, it can be used in so many ways.

[@nerdherder9340]

Medium feels really strong, but still has the issue of feeling like it only has 1 gadget slot. If I am playing medium, why would I ever not use jump pad and defib. Specialization wise, as much as I think demat is very underrated, it feels like a throw to not have at least one heal beam on a team, you get to scam so many fights by just trading damage that you heal and they cant. I don’t know if there is any numerical nerf to heal beam that will make it not meta, it is the ONLY source of healing. I wonder if giving the other classes some minor healing items would help; like barricades healing a very small amount per second, or vanish bomb making regen kick in faster.

[@shallot4991]

Buff pike 😊

[@Ramon_N]

No too, it is already good

[@qTRIMANIAp]

Not really a buff but I'd like it's scope to have just a dot and not a triangle

[@SS-ql6oi]

Anyone else noticing how insane building destruction is now? Like too much imo

[@aeroblizz1987]

Yeah in Fortune stadium its like paper walls

[@hyenabutter5279]

I love the dual deagles, might be a heavy main now. I was using pyro mine c4 and dome shield as my loadout

[@semmiek5241]

they should just change light as a whole, make it more play like a medium 2.0 so they wont die every 3 seconds on a roof somewhere

[@fall5923]

healing beam, data reshaper, defib, free slot, weapon of your choice. prioritize using data reshaper first rather than healing.

[@MidNightFreakOZ]

The argument about Light having the lowest win rate over all is as good as the trash I take out every other day. One simple explanation why that is, most bots play the Light class. BOTS DON'T WIN GAMES!!!! Give any 2 good players Light and Heavy the Light will melt the Heavy 7 times out of 10 in current meta. I love how they make comparisons and statements from them but blatantly disregard such important facts as ratios! In this case the number of good players that use Heavy class and Light class vs the number of Bot players that do and their respective win/loss rates. Don't give in to this bullsh*t Appoh you are better than that. Oh just to make it clear here I am a Light and Medium main and don't play Heavy since season 2 because it's just not fun on solo grind.

[@Appoh]

your last statement sums it up, heavy isnt fun hense why so many lights. In comp scene light is rarely scene so the best players barely touch light in scrims and tourneys, light isnt good brother its the truth

[@Pineapplecubes]

breach charge is so op for cashout defence because if there is one mine or a couple barrels it blows the whole thing up

[@deadinitaly]

Pike and model need nerfs so bad

[@RightClickGamers]

Been enjoying Neon Gutz' loadout on light. Grappel, goo, frag, gate, and the shotty.

[@vanadios4480]

CYBERPUNK 2077 REFERENCE?

[@dylan-xp8ih]

okay but the real best change is being able to wear bucket hats with long hair

[@anbiya1570]

cant wait to try this loadout and get completely wiped by enemy

[@AKA_Keegs]

The goo grenades are so criminally underrated

[@Hagebuddne983]

Can you do an AR comparison for season 4 again please?

[@brandenr5937]

Lights have the lowest win rate because most people who are playing light run in and die instantly

[@Appoh]

exactly, because they arent good

[@Crumbia]

The second I heard Jackie Wells I liked the video

[@Magnificentkitty-r4l]

Jackie Welles is a great idea since this game is so similar to cyberpunk I also love how you made your character look like him

[@futureow6043]

Hey Appoh First of all: I love the constant content output, you are my fav finals source :) By any chance: do we already know how hard/how much grind the normal ranked this season is compared to S2? And is world tour still the same amount of work?

[@Appoh]

feels bout the same as s2

[@futureow6043]

Alright thank you shouldn't be too much work then!

[@JusAFarmer]

Do you think the mesh change will stick? I think adding a cooldown has made it considerably less used. And has paved a way further a huge influx of, charge and slam, and wench claw usage.

[@Appoh]

I am seeing way more variety in spec choices on heavy so i am a fan of the change

[@JusAFarmer]

Personally i think it should be maybe 4 seconds instead of eight if it gets hit, I understand the change but I feel it considerably underwhelming.

[@JerrybearTV]

Finally the m60 getting some love 🤩

[@givesbeetdip0055]

I’ve been having a blast with deagles, goo gun, barricade, rpg, and remote charges. Such a fun loadout and I’m usually playing w my friend so we get a lot of angled jump pads w the goo

[@givesbeetdip0055]

Honestly think I might swap rpg for anti gravity. My favorite loadout last season was winch claw barricade rpg antigravity and it made steals way smoother

[@PSYCHOMADTV]

Let’s gooo Appoh 😎👾

[@jackacook]

Reddits Nightmare is a great name lmao !

[@ImSoConfucius]

Jackie deserved more love. RIP

[@NobleRenegade7]

Embark: We're nerfing RPGs again because we dont want them to be a staple in the heavy's loadout. Also Embark: *ignores defibs completely.

[@ECUSMY]

Can u make drip ideas?

[@marvinminaya]

I really wish we would’ve gotten a new full auto weapon just in general like full auto, low recoil, low damage AR like an M4 or something

[@Jett_Wave]

Jackie Welles 😢

[@nyate]

So YOU'RE the reason why I kept seeing so many deagle playes running goo without RPGs

[@TheElunico000]

Everyone here talking about nerfing and bidding Buffing nobody talking about the abysmal pvp ranked matches im going against sweats and I'm getting new players who don't communicate

[@flashiie]

Please make a video about the new meta. For some reason I am getting absolutely destroyed in any mode. I am struggling in SILVER. I used to be diamond in cashout always. So pls help

[@jordansparks6734]

I keep crashing I can only go one game without crashing I’ve tried everything 😭 it’s unplayable for me

[@snepgl]

It's interesting to see their reasoning for the heavy vs light balance (based on win rates). I'm worried, however, that they're too focused on the raw statistics and not about what makes the classes feel distinct and the fights feel fun across game modes.

[@walp8408]

Jackie Welles 😭😭😭

[@padeiroPorAmor]

you can see they get inspiration from good franchices, I think the sniper with cloak on L class is super starcraft nova

[@Enlightenment99]

Using the revolver all season now it has a red dot

[@phatandlazycow9284]

What weapons have y’all been pairing with your specialization this season? I liked v9s for grapple hook and ks-23 for harpoon. Curious what others are enjoying now

[@teknyon]

If you absolutely had to use grapple how would you use it?

[@Appoh]

lh1, goo grenade, gateway, frag grenade/glitch

[@teknyon]

@@Appoh that’s actually like what I’ve been using recently since I couldn’t get into the lh1 before the scope

[@astashasta1]

Imo lights win rate is only that low because its what solo players are picking. Clearly the best team comp last season was medics and a heavy or 2. But if you dont have that team comp its hard to argue light doesn't dominate

[@UMC-Jello]

You HAVE to make a meta video

[@Appoh]

@@UMC-Jello i intend to

[@gsrands]

People who pick light don't care about the win rate. They are playIng COD in the finals. Chasing K/D

[@sanfury]

+ and the most toxic

[@eins32]

I gotta say not everyone, there are some really good light players out there who play with the team. Sadly the majority is not though

[@SmokinTonic]

then play light and be that player instead of whining like a bot

[@aSuperPi.]

Can you make a video about which guns to use sights on and which to not?

[@Appoh]

honestly its personal preference

[@aeroblizz1987]

Medium without defibrillator is not accepeted in most comps I run😅

[@Vinnology]

RPG doing 100 damage is just awful. I get that we are playing against heavies and its irritating to get demolished by the RPG. But its a ROCKET PROPELLED GRENADE. It is SUPPOSED to damage you and possibly kill you in one shot. The 140 damage was perfect. I hate to play against it as much as the next guy. Doesn't mean I dont wanna use it myself. Give the heavy a pair of slippers. That'll do more emotional damage than the RPG right now. I have completely phased out the RPG. I don't even have it in my reserve.

[@Appoh]

top players still use rpg. also isnt it annoying how the data reshaper doesnt work like how it does in real life? or how dematerializer isnt exactly like its real life version.

[@KianFloppa]

W

[@Tjmalloy2]

What if lights had a faster revive time and or a shorter timer on when able to token?

[@CryZii777]

i expect a nerf to all the new weapons but tbh i think the only changes they really need is more dmg falloff for the pike, deagles need a dmg drop and more falloff, light shotty isnt too bad so far tbh so interested to see what they do with it But hopefully they dont nerf them into the ground like every other weapon

[@nerdherder9340]

I could see the pike getting a mag size or hip fire nerf, makes it worse at general play but doesnt hit it in its niche. Deagles feel like they just do too much damage though, i hope that they dont give them inaccuracy though

[@chadharpicenjoyer8591]

IF I ORDERED A WHOLE TOE I NEED A WHOLE TOE IM A CERTIFIED WHOLE TOE LOVER

[@thegamingshatt4758]

Yeah new light shotfun doesnt feel great to me, I'd rather use the v9s or m11 for super ahgressive builds

[@thegamingshatt4758]

And v9s is kinda nuts now, the red dot let's me get crazy quick ttk at aven medium ranges

[@HiVoltag3R]

M26 is bolt action not pump action

[@wortbrain]

You really don't need any other weapon in reserve when using the pike, that thing is BROKEN 😂

[@sSteppingStones]

Deagles go hard 🔥

[@livarpool7724]

early

[@SmokinTonic]

nerf deagles asap

[@Bagginsess]

When S3 launched you couldn't avoid playing Kyoto. Meanwhile I haven't been able to play the new map but I've played Kyoto a lot in the first day of S4.

[@sSteppingStones]

Unlucky, I played over 30 games so far and only got it twice

[@Bagginsess]

@@sSteppingStones I only had a few hours to play which didn't help. Glad to know it's not just me.

[@sSteppingStones]

@@Bagginsessby 'it' i meant Kyoto

[@Bagginsess]

@@sSteppingStones oh

[@jdez-z1b]

Nerf pike 😊

[@monkey-with-the-drip5296]

No

[@kriptonite491]

First "we need new meta weapons" now "nerf new meta weapons" 😂😂😂

[@ryan-ih5bq]

@@monkey-with-the-drip5296the damage range yes. Nothing else. It does way too much damage and egregious ranges

[@R0llU]

It’s abysmal up close so do not nerf damage range

[@Bagginsess]

@@R0llU damage range fall off would literally have no affect on close fights.

[@KianFloppa]

Nerf pike 😊

[@bradyquan5515]

They need to quit nerfing shit and start buffing the other weapons instead

[@monkey-with-the-drip5296]

Skill issue

[@Ramon_N]

No, it is good, we need others guns buffs and not nerfs❤

[@vighneshkoalapunani8851]

r.i.p jackie

[@Trapadvisor_helpin_u]

Yo man could u also give new loadouts and talk in general about the guns with scopes (for example lh1)

[@Trapadvisor_helpin_u]

Or my favourite m60

[@Appoh]

yeah i will in the future just gonna let the game update a bit before i do that