6 NHL Teams That GAVE UP On Star Players Too Soon (Part 2)

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In today's video we do part 2, of NHL teams that GAVE UP on star players too soon!
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[@RobTalksHockey]

Has your team ever traded away a young star?! Stay safe everyone!👍🏻

[@JayTayD]

Rob Talks Hockey as a flames fan. Too many my man

[@lukebeaty4376]

As a wild fan, we traded away Brent Burns 😑

[@AdumbJew]

I was in the minority about Fiala outproducing Granlund... However half way through my fantasy year I had the chance to move him but banked on a turnaround next year but hey, hes scored 7/8 goals in last 12 games. Great skater with release

[@HDgaming519]

Something else funny about that tyler segun was he came from a toronto pick that was traded to boston so back in the day toronto was just feeding boston star players i think the gm for toronto at that time had no clue what he was doing seriously u could do a video on just terrible trades from toronto if they didnt make any of those trades there team would of probably won the cup at that time lol

[@croydonsfinest007]

Rob Talks Hockey you don’t hear much about the flyers trading basically there entire team to set up that avalanche team who won multiple cups with forseburg leadings the way.

[@bertcx8056]

Ottawa didn’t give up on Mika, Eugene saw his potential and didn’t wanna pay him....

[@albertvanular433]

Nonsense. If Ottawa had any idea how good Mika Zibanajad would become, they would have never traded him. No team ever wants to give away a superstar, not even Ottawa.

[@wilhelmvg9978]

Albert Vanular Although I felt similar to OP, but I agree with you. The value Ottawa received in return for Mika says it all, really. And I liked Brassard in Ottawa.

[@theKyzn]

@@albertvanular433 Then why did they give up Karlsson

[@STEPHENisSTEPHEN]

Albert Vanular they fumbled that big time, shoulda traded Turris instead of Mika

[@Dharmanndaddy]

Albert Vanular Are you new to hockey or have you not seen all the superstars that the Sens have given up what???

[@Echosquad2555]

Seeing zibanejad light it up gives me a tear ottawa really shit the bed on that trade

[@GREENneonDRIVER]

We Ranger fans feel sorry for you, but thank you for your business.

[@evman1094]

As a sens fan, i can say that i'm absolutely certain that Zibanejad would not have turned into the player he is now if he stayed in Ottawa

[@khockey6876]

Evan Strickland you are just shook lol

[@Echosquad2555]

Evan Strickland true!! Im happy for him though

[@greg_hodgins]

With what the sens got back from the trade they actually didn’t do that bad, if you include the package they got back from when they moved brassard on it wasn’t really that bad of a deal, considering zibanejad didn’t look like he’d pan out at the tome

[@Jacob-dm1xz]

I miss hockey already

[@JayTayD]

Jacob sat down last night , turned on Sportsnet to watch the flames game and kinda just sat there...

[@crynzd]

*Well safety comes first*

[@JayTayD]

Crynzd yet was completely avoidable if certain leaders took appropriate action fast enough. Which they didn’t. I recall one of said leaders calling this virus a hoax just 14 days ago

[@jacobvandenberghe4222]

3 days without sports. There’s a lady on my couch. Seems she’s my wife. She’s nice

[@indydd]

Yup

[@smokelaganj]

they should change the name to the Ottawa "NHL farms"

[@tweedle634]

LMFAOOOO ITS SO TRUE!!!! OTtawas single handidly traded every non coked out veteran/star....

[@haslamabad_]

Curtis Ben bishop, mika just to name a few

[@epidermiuss]

@@CurtisWithoutHandles karlsson stone duchene hoffman all healthy scratches

[@justnick1566]

wendigo exactly, except Hoffman was traded cuz his wife was insane and had a beef with karlsson... btw u forgot Bishop

[@micheldallaire4877]

The Zibanejad trade was terrible. Ottawa had a young team and if given time to mature would have been decent (Karlsson, Stone, Zibanejad...). For financial reasons they needed to make the playoffs and given they had a superstar defenceman on a very good contract (6.5 m) they decided they needed to be in a "win now" mode (I think the organization felt they had to prove to Karlsson he could win here). This was an awful approach and I doubt works for any team that decides it doesn't need to be patient with a maturing young team. I just don't think you can skip that process. Needless to say Ottawa also made other studip moves, like trading for Bobby Ryan as they gave up other young players and picks (Silfverberg, Noesen and a first). Ryan never lived up to the trade or the contract he signed in Ottawa. They also misevaluated the team after one good playoff run and thought they were one player away from the finals, hence they traded to get Duchene.

[@richardbrock8139]

I thought it was strange when Ottawa got rid of silferberg (idk how to spell that) lol and zibenajad. They had two young players at that time and had nothing to show for it after

[@HSHunjan2002]

Great video and great channel man! Keep it up! By the way are you going to be doing more of your NHL 20 Franchise mode cause I certainly enjoyed that a lot

[@kheldaur2107]

And have to say. You're quickly becoming the best NHL content creator in KZbin. Keep up the good work.

[@kaizokoopa780]

Let’s trade him to TikTok

[@chrisdaley9201]

Great subject and content.. I enjoy your videos. Much appreciated

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thank you, means a lot!

[@mediatok2465]

I love the video great content keep it up

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@lukasduncan-reed4512]

some people have been sleeping on Mika he has been one of my favorite player for awhile now

[@TheZombieTryhards]

YES! Finally someone giving Danault his credit! He’s so underrated, he’s been the best forward on the habs for the last 2 years and I’d hate it if he was ever moved

[@dominiktremblay411]

Hey rob. Big fan. Idk how you’re not at 250k subscribers yet, your content is great keep it up bud i love tuning in to your videos

[@mkash6327]

seguin got traded cause he partied to much with gronk and marchand quietly getting in trouble. lol

[@bradgagnon9544]

There was also a lot of rumours floating around that seguin was hooking up with players wives on the team

[@JayTayD]

Brad Gagnon Seguin reminds me of Zac Efron in Bad Neighbors so I could see it

[@dean4696]

Even if those were just rumors, there were a lot of other confirmed events that showed how being in boston by himself wasnt the greatest thing for an immature player. He would have probably figured it out eventually, but I dont think he becomes the player that he is today if he remained in boston.

[@Quellebreo373]

Brad Gagnon yeah he hooked up with Nathan Horton’s wife so they had to trade one of them... in the long run it was the wrong trade

[@svt7777]

Great vid. New subscriber

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@TheSaemkael]

The funniest part about the Zibanejad trade, and i’m not shitting you, the rangers fans were FURIOUS when Brassard left. Cause they thought that mika would at the peak of his career put up as many points as Brassard did at that time. But that he’d do that in years to come. He moved from being unwanted in Ottawa at a third-line center position. Now he’s one of the best Centers in the league. I’ve projected his success all along ever since I saw his first goal on a professional level with Djurgården against MoDo in 2010 when he was only seventeen!

[@phazerphred5917]

Zibanejad was good on ottawa... dont know whydthey trade him

[@jh1603]

Because Ottawa trades any and all of their good players. Just wait until Chabot is sent packing within the next few years

[@salmanalbahri9108]

Don't get me wrong but Derek Broussard was doing very good specially in a playoffs hes a clutch man

[@nmsdraqzeh782]

Danault was a steal! With Romanov as a 2nd Round!

[@mattblom3990]

Dang Rob, you're gonna hit 10K subscribers in no time. KZbin algorithms working hard!

[@RobTalksHockey]

Haha, yep it has taken me many years to figure out the algorithms.

[@mattblom3990]

@@RobTalksHockey Would love to see you do some "What Ifs?" and historical videos now that the NHL is on a break. I've always wondered if there would be a way to predict what players like Crosby, Ovechkin, even Hughes and Petterson could have done in the 1980s with worse goaltending and defense mounted against them?

[@Puckhead086]

I always felt like the the Bruins front office used Seguin as the scapegoat for losing the Cup to Chicago that year. I think one of the people in that room said "if he put up half the goals Patrick Kane did, we'd have the Cup." Not one piece of that deal remains a Bruins asset and that trade resulted in a total loss for the organization. Loui left in free agency, and the Bruins traded Reilly Smith along with Marc Savard's contract for Jimmy Hayes. Matt Fraser and Joe Morrow never amounted to much either. The Bruins traded a star player, and then also let a solid top 6 forward in Reilly Smith go for a bag of pucks. As a B's fan this trade makes my blood boil.

[@alejbr4]

the irony the reason they lost was because the hawks were skating around the bruins players...funny cause here in the city , people were worried about what sequin could do because of hi speed

[@ITDBruins]

That honestly is what makes me worried about Fabian Lysell. He's a skillful speedy kid. Will he suffer the same fate as Seggy because he isn't made of grit and sandpaper like Marchand? Grit and sandpaper has forced us to keep Brandon fucking Carlo in a starting position for way too long, and is likely the reason we drafted Trent Frederic over Alex DeBrincat (I like Freddy, but god damn over the Big Cat?!) If there's one thing that this past offseason made clear, its that Don Sweeney is as clueless as Chiarelli. I don't entirely understand trading Dan Vladar, but having that kinda depth at young goalie can turn into a log jam real quick, but i especially dog understand why they gave that massive a contract to Linus Ullmark. But that isnt the worst of it. Letting Ondrej Kase go in free agency is proving to be catastrophic, as he alone has more goals this year than any Bruins FA pickup, and it doesn't exactly help when our biggest goal source of those players is a defenseman who had never topped 3 goals in a season prior. Kase has 8 goals Derek Forbort has 4 goals, Tomas Nosek has 2, Erik Haula has 1, and $3.8M No Movement Clause Foligno has 0

[@randomdude5958]

Seguin and Thornton got traded for the same reason... lol, you didn’t mention the real reason.

[@joaorivas8006]

What was the real reason

[@TheHenryDuong]

@@joaorivas8006 they would rather have beregron and Krejci . Similar to why Kessel and wheeler were traded. Boston like certian types of personality .

[@Persholm1]

@@TheHenryDuong Beregron? Who's that?

[@bruinsforlife7107]

@@TheHenryDuong Kessel was traded because he wouldn't play defense and didn't score enough for that to be ok. Wheeler was traded because although he did decent on scoring, he wasn't playing his physical game that he likes to play now. It had nothing to do with wanting to keep Bergeron and Krejci.

[@_croy5750]

Zion Zix a top 10 center who has won plenty of Selke trophies

[@cloudsopowera6248]

Bruins acquiring Tuukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft can be considered as a "consolation prize" for trading prospect Ken Dryden right after drafting him in return of Guy Allen and Paul Reidd. Man could you imagine Ken Dryden on the net with Bobby Orr on the blueline.

[@oakstwentyfive]

Dude, you’re a boss.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Haha thanks my dude

[@aidanmarinello8548]

Hey quick question. Where can I get jerseys for cheap?

[@johndough5365]

I think discussing Ottawa’s return on the Brassard to Pittsburg trade as well as other receiving pieces used with those assets would’ve been worthy to note. Especially since it softens the Zibanejad blow. Ziba for essentially Gustavsson, Bernard-Docker, Tychonick, Sogaard, and Zaitsev is bad but not thaaat bad.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Yes very true. Docker is a great prospect. Although the value still isn’t close

[@johndough5365]

Rob Talks Hockey oh 100% I agree with u

[@zogos_4120]

2:23, damn brassard Making 2 billion dollars in Bonus. Highest paid salary of all time. Still love the vid tho

[@zoomop_sniper6576]

Mika could have so many more goals if he didn’t get injured. Maybe he’d be leading the league who knows

[@hotwhiskey243]

He's definitely playing an award-worthy season, it's a shame for him that the virus had to happen now.

[@enuxify]

He would've easily had a 50 goal year

[@juicyjuice474]

He’s currently first in goals per game

[@rackattack85]

Now that the NHL is on pause were going to need more content Rob....hint hint nudge nudge 😁

[@RobTalksHockey]

;)

[@mariovaccarella6854]

Yeah. Originally, I was upset when I heard Derrick Brassard was Traded from My Rangers, for about a Total of 2 Seconds, until I'd hear that the Player was Mika Zibenejad. I'd seen Him play for Ottawa and was Very Impressed By Him. I still like Derrick Brassard, but, That Was Probably Jeff Gorton's Best Grade as Rangers' GM

[@deltagolavista1]

Zibanejad was a pre-emptive salary dump. They were not going to give him a 5/5 so they moved him for someone who would be more expensive the first year, but cheaper the second and sold it as getting a more established veteran.

[@chrispswann6825]

The reason why the Sens got rid of Zibanejad was because of money (remember we're talking about the cheapest team in the league) Zibanejad was a year away from being a RFA and the Sens knew he would ask for a huge raise. Meanwhile Brassard still had three years on his contract at a reasonable 5 million. So the Sens didn't give up on Zibanejad because they didn't think he was good. They traded him to save money. That's how Melnyk does business

[@tjmmjt857]

Mika got paid 5.350 when he was a RFA by NYR. Was that 350k really worth trading a potential #1 C (who turned out to be a top 20 player in the league) for a decent 2nd line C/great 3rd line C who was making 5 mil? No, no it wasn’t, don’t try to sugar coat it. That was a terrible trade by OTT

[@1987phillybilly]

Bob...he of the 12-21 playoff record...3.13 GAA and .892 save%??? Oh yeah... Bob has been great

[@Chwkbaseballplayer]

Bobrovsky demanded a trade or else was going back to Russia. The Flyers never wanted to give up on him; their mistake was bringing in a starter ahead of him

[@isaacwest276]

Funny how I’m watching this right after Freddie Anderson left Toronto and is having a wicked start in Carolina (granted, the Canes’ D is sweet).

[@yaranen2797]

THANK YOU I BEEN SAYING THIS ABOUT ZIBANEJAD FOR THE LONGEST TIME

[@RobTalksHockey]

hahaha

[@jrey800]

what's the jersey in the background?

[@haggaisimon7748]

As a Sens fan I am sad to see Mark, Mika, Erik, Matt, Codi, Mike and more who left the "rebuildining" team. The process that has no future. Say, having Stone , Zibanejad and Karlsson would gurantee the playoff spot for the last 5 years, and maybe more!

[@keir13]

Forsberg for Erat! Good video though!

[@davidcoleman730]

It’s amazing that Boston has had any success. This is a franchise that got rid of Joe Thornton, Phil Kessel, and Tyler Seguin.

[@Odysseus38]

Thankfully virt had a breakout year this year now I'm just praying Olli comes through

[@mam362]

it may just have been a case where the player could never reach their potential with their former team

[@Ratzy1614]

Seguin's off ice problems were a factor in Seguin trade

[@chrispswann6825]

The Calgary Flames gave up on Martin St. Louis and Brett Hull. The Chicago Blackhawks gave up on Dominik Hasek. Three hall of famers dumped because their teams didn't think they would amount to anything.

[@kheldaur2107]

I remember the disappointment that I felt when Flyers traded Bob to Columbus. I thought we finally had found our next franchise goaltender. Hopefully we don't trade Hart the next season for a couple bags of shit.

[@DemolitionLovers905]

This just in: Flyers have traded Carter hart for Cory Schneider and a 3rd round pick lmao

[@depressedspursfan9514]

Seguin had issues with other players on the team (Bruins)

[@rays1403]

Calgary flames letting Martin St Louis walk away is huge.. Tampa should be thankful.😂😂

[@gershomtan5879]

Considering St. Louis was a big reason the flames lost to tampa in the 04 finals, I'm sure tampa is grateful. Still sad Iginla doesnt have a cup to his name though

[@andyzorrX]

4:05 LUL

[@bryanmay6250]

I was at that 5 goal game Mika is a fricken beast

[@TransPrincePeyton]

I agree that Chiarelli was a terrible GM, for every team he's worked with, but there were problems with Seguin; he was a hard partier and there were rumors he slept with Nathan Horton's wife. As a Bruins fan, I think the team made the right move because it worked for Seguin in the long run. Sometimes you just need a change of scenery. When it comes to the Rask/Raycroft trade, obviously it worked out for us more than Toronto. But in case Toronto didn't suffer enough with the trade, after he retired, Razor came back to Boston and is now one of our best analysts 😂

[@pascalecormier6022]

The Montreal Canadiens traded Ryan McDonaugh to the Rangers in 2009 for... Scott Gomez. One of the best defencemen of the last 15 years for one of the worst players who ever played in Montreal. There is a reason why we haven't seen the Stanley Cup in Montreal for almost 30 years.

[@julianmehler8873]

The rangers are going to have a top 3 team for the next few years they have such a good young depth and older people that aren’t even that old

[@DjSonicxify]

Seguin trade in the long run worked 4 the bruins

[@k45207]

Bro I’ve been scouring KZbin for anything hockey I’m like a crack addicted. I’m missing the nhl

[@RobTalksHockey]

I feel you man 😔✊🏻

[@ja7891]

Clickbait, zibanajed never had 59 goal season

[@newyorkrangersfan7163]

if u were smart enough to watch the video before you commented, you would know that he was on pace to get 59 goals. Think

[@ZacharyThao]

Do the redraft of the 2013 draft

[@loveamerica4222]

Oh Seguin😂😂🤣

[@haslamabad_]

You could make this video on the sens alone

[@counterclockwisefilms3814]

Yup, Sens hate Mika but it’s not anyone’s fault that the Senators trade all their potential greats. I hate to admit it cuz I’m a Rangers fan but you just watch Pageau become the Fishstick’s MVP next or the following season

[@ericstrecker7259]

need to make another one and put when the blues traded bishop away

[@Digital_PeterGriffin]

Rangers may have really over achieved last year, fueled by Panarins hart finalist run. Not much of a surprise they took a step back

[@JohnDoe-ly3wx]

La Kings give Blackhawks Dominik Kubalik in exchange for a 7th round pick lol

[@TMLJunK]

Raycroft for Rask is bad only in hindsight. Justin Pogge was considered the better prospect at the time because of his performance in a proven junior league and world championship.

[@ski993]

See I’ve always hated the Fiala trade I saw so much potential in him and it’s showing now

[@medaelmtree1538]

I loved Derick Brassard as a Ranger. But I would have made that trade any day. I still can’t believe the Senators we’re willing to give up Zibanejad and for only that much (while also giving a 2nd). If it were not for Kreider, Zibanejad would be the clear captain for the Rangers.

[@dominikmartinec9571]

you look like a mix of zhc and david parody not gunna lie

[@justincredible5414]

Never understood why people think or thought Bobrovsky was so good.

[@aidanpotash5309]

I think the panarin trade was good

[@vernal2322]

Who’s watching after 2020 lockout

[@flyingspaghettimonster7066]

Literally everyone because the lockout was before this video.

[@ChrisHayworth100]

What lockout, the country is on lockdown and you make it sound like a trade dispute.

[@gabe8581]

RIP in the chat for the dude who traded Mika

[@eqh1593]

Tuukka just chosen as #2 in the legue :D Would've been #1 is Bruins won tho

[@bdeitur]

I would have added the Wild trading Brent Burns

[@justincredible5414]

I think it was in part 1

[@Thrillhousethedud]

Brassard's 2 BILLION dollar bonus???? Wow...I know, I know it's 2 million, it just sounded like you said billion

[@elwizschold]

The Zibanejad for Brassard is trade that didn't age well - especially since NYR also got the best pick

[@matthewjames1728]

You can assume based on a projection

[@francisbibeau2543]

If mika play the rest of the season he on pace for 50g I hope the rest of the season will be play for Ovechkin he already miss 134 game because lock out

[@HDgaming519]

This isnt a lock out its a pandemic seriously this had to happen if sports were still alowed to play it would make the disease even more infectious than it already is this is a deadly disease we are talking about here with deaths above 2500 in china

[@francisbibeau2543]

@@HDgaming519 in canada just1 death 177 infection

[@HDgaming519]

@@francisbibeau2543 its not just about canada its stopping the spread

[@andrenascimento9112]

Seguin problaby is the worst trade here, but the reality is that boston has been one of the best teams of nhl, if not the best specially this year.. 🥅🥅🥅🏒🏒🏒 Missed the games already. 😰😰😰

[@tomcalvin232]

Sabres gave up on O'Reilly too soon

[@lllblisslll]

How dare u say Rask won the cup in 2011!! Lol. I totally agree with him on this list and yes he was on the cup winning roster but Tim Thomas was in absolute beast mode that year and dominated the post season, winning the cup.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Yep very true, he was on the team then lolol. Still he had a great regular season along side of Thomas

[@RebornGQC]

Y’all gotta chill with Carter Hart, he had ONE good season ONE !

[@ethanknifsend9775]

Granted, the top guys in the NBA draft are like 19-20

[@retrogamernes3121]

What about the Anthony Duclair trade for Keith Yandle??

[@kingkongweiwei7669]

It sucks zibanajed would of had a 50 goals season if it didn’t get cancelled

[@gaah23]

Kipper? Markus Naslund? Loungo?

[@dean4696]

the average age thing for other leagues is kind of misguided. The nba has changed their rules a ton of times but as it stands now, there are two rounds. Almost all of the 1st round guys play their mandatory 1 year out of high school and are drafted at either 18 (reclassify like eichel/hanifin) or 19. the second round they take flyers on euro and multi year college players that havent been drafted yet. The MLB is insane, almost the opposite. There are 40 rounds. They take a ton of 18 year olds, and 17 year olds in some cases. They just have so many picks to make. When I was still in highschool it wasnt uncommon to see a guy that may not even be a bonafide d-1 prospect get picked.The NFL thing is accurate, but if you let the players make the rules, we would be seeing 19 year olds enter the NFL draft as well. College football is just prints too much money for them to ever allow it.

[@thegreatmrt]

Zibanejad actually has 41 goals this year, but I'm guessing you made this before the last 2 games

[@crynzd]

*It was be careful what you say what he actually has than this video was made*

[@Deenaziamazinjg14]

Crynzd that’s not english

[@cobalt6128]

Toronto maple leafs: We don't like our goalie. Boston Bruins: We don't like our goalie either! Toronto maple leafs: Wanna trade them? Boston bruins: Sure!

[@28jscott]

The video started at 1:20

[@RobTalksHockey]

oof

[@provoke3128]

Artemi Panarin

[@hockeyboy96]

BRASSARDS 2 BILLION BONUS

[@bearwooden660]

You forgeting Gomez for McDonaugh trade............

[@silver6514]

Cubs trading Lou Brock to the cardina...... Wait wrong sport

[@5holehockey216]

Bishop to the Senators?

[@kevengagne8201]

Mcdonagh for gomez

[@TandooriBulb]

Granlund is Nashvilles best player rn

[@mikhaelsundin1798]

Lol the senators mAke the dumbest trades

[@tatukeijonen7833]

The Sens don't make any sense...

[@oddity4all2see]

I'm a cry hard flyers fan. I lost all faith in holmgrin and the Flyers organization after trading Bob. Hart is good but I'm not sure about him. If they trade off ersson I'm going to burn all of my jerseys

[@theKyzn]

Did he say 3 *BILLION $* bonus?