6 THINGS MY DEGREE DID NOT TEACH |

[@tronicbasez1814]

When I signed for accounting and finance, I thought I’d become “The Wolf of Wallstreet” + “The Accountant”. I ended up learning about the financial market and other business information on my own. College taught very little for what I was paying. I learnt more online than most of my high school and college career.

[@gabbo13]

I had the same feeling as you did, but I graduated from film and television four years ago.

[@brendanmichaelwelsh6260]

So what are we paying them for again? The piece of paper at the end of it? Wow it degree means I can use the internet / Google when my Uni sucks ass!

[@derekwhite8196]

I did finance too and was very unsatisfied. Are you trying to get into web dev now too?

[@ThorMaximus]

Derek White yeah I did Finance as well. It WAS important then; not as much now.

[@tanyarawat9700]

@@derekwhite8196 Not enough pay?

[@ankitbhat4531]

Very true words. College teaches you to be a great employee, not employer

[@7chill87]

I spent 10 years at uni and got 3 science degrees (because apparently you're more likely to get a 'good' job - but no one tells you that science jobs don't particularly pay well). Then got an 'entry level' job in industry and those 2.5 years in industry taught me more about the scientific method and proper experimentation than anything I did at university.

[@googleuser7771]

You can look up average salaries in science fields using the internet. You would have been able to do that in all 10 years at uni probably.

[@burlapvest7521]

In what are those 3 degrees sir?

[@7chill87]

@@burlapvest7521 BSc Pharmacology, MSc Toxicology, PhD Neuroscience

[@burlapvest7521]

@@7chill87 sweet gj. very valuable thanks for sharing

[@dannylaza1326]

Got a degree in Chemistry and Biochemistry. Decided i didn't want to go to medical school... so not much left for me. Gunna probably go back for a CS degree.

[@TinyMaths]

Time management: It took 6 months before I realized I had appalling study habits, (I'm a first year mature student in my forties). Then, thanks to KZbin I learned about more effective study habits, like the one you mentioned, study x amount of minutes/mini break/ study x minutes/ mini break etc, and allow for longer pauses, lunch etc, also repeated sessions on the same subject over a long period until the concept is virtually second nature; it may have saved me from flunking completely, but I only had this realization 2 months before exams. Nobody told me this, had to find out purely by accident.

[@skweejee]

It terrifies me seeing some of my friends collect tens of thousands in debt, I couldn't imagine

[@JoshuaFluke1]

It's scary. When you see that useless degree too.

[@googleuser7771]

Tell them to stop! Show them the math. Surely they will listen to reason

[@TwoDollarGararge]

I'm 18 42,000 in debt played $1500 off and now I'm pinching pennies

[@skweejee]

Google User it’s too late at this point. Their family isn’t too well off, and they are attending a private school for a psych degree with I believe a masters in Education. It’s going to be a rough ride.

[@skweejee]

Tech Explained good luck

[@logantaylor4121]

It's ok to start as an employee after college. It's difficult to understand how things work until you are on the inside and actually see how a business is run. The trick is to not get too comfortable and use that knowledge to go from employee to entrepreneur. Also please don't sway people from engineering. Although a lot of what you learn in school isn't directly used in your career it makes you a better problem solver which is useful no matter what you are doing.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

What you're saying is my mantra lol

[@Luanhziiin]

60k for being a better problem solver? Not Worth. (This is coming from someone with a Master's degree in mechanical engineering). If you are not going to be an engineer, please, dont do engineering.

[@formula1340]

Studying 4 years just to be better problem solver is shit. Better go working straight from highschool and you be better at that in much less time. Not to mention the money you'll spend just be a good "problem solver".

[@Talishar]

@@formula1340 Studying engineering for example is more than just problem solving. Problem solving is just the primary skill which you work and grow. An engineer is responsible for knowing all of the interactions and mechanics going on in a process within their discipline. It's something that someone without working towards the degree likely won't have to the same level. Especially since in many engineering disciplines you literally can't be wrong or make a mistake because if it doesn't get caught, people can die. Because engineering polishes the problem solving and critical thinking skills so much, many companies outside of engineering often try to poach and headhunt for engineers to get these qualities within their organizations. There are a surprising many degree programs and professions where problem solving and critical thinking are NOT a very integral part of the process so companies that hire heavily outside of STEM majors tend to be lacking in these departments. Advertising firms are generally good examples where many of these skills are surprisingly lacking and where quite a few engineers can find themselves sought after if they're open to it.

[@weridplusho]

I'd studied more for my Japanese class than I did for my IT degree... It was the hardest 3 classes I had. And I still learned next to nothing. I think college doesn't teach anyone that can be remembered later on. It seems like that anything one remembers is due to experience or something you learned on your own because _you_ were in the driver's seat.

[@aimless-drifter]

totally agree, that why we have projects and capstones. You apply what you learn to make something, put your knowledge to use.

[@helloyassine]

I can't imagine how miserable my life would be knowing I had this mountain of debt over me. Especially for those people that graduated with a useless degree.

[@tronicbasez1814]

helloyassine You wouldn’t be making quality videos like you are doing right now. Your channel is amazing✌🏾.

[@kazykamakaze131]

@@cosmonautbilly9570 You do realize that ivy league student loans you will easily rack up 200k+ in debt.

[@tasheemhargrove9650]

@@cosmonautbilly9570 Stanford is a private school. But yeah everything else is accurate.

[@googleuser7771]

@@kazykamakaze131 surely you'd have to be very sure you're going to be making a lot of money if you go into a degree where you're going to rack up $200k of debt

[@tasheemhargrove9650]

@@cosmonautbilly9570 What is it like in the Bay Area. I used to work with a guy who lived there. He said he loved it there. I've always lived on the East Coast.

[@Dratsabamai]

I did my degree in the UK (Computing and Games development), one of the most important skills I did pick up there was convincing people that what I had created had value. Enthusiasm tends to be very infectious, if youre enthusiastic about what youve made you can influence other people to be more enthusiastic as well. It is true that at University there are those who just bum out for a 4 year period and accomplish very little. My personal truth is that it created an environment where I could learn my craft without the inconvenience of spending 40h a week doing something I hated / draining all of my mental energy. I suppose to me the most valuable thing about University was just the time itself. Im now a mid-level UX Developer and youve inspired me to retry becoming a KZbin content creator. :D

[@harm991]

"convincing people that what I had created had value." How?

[@DagnirRen]

@@harm991 sales tactics. Looking for jobs is all about selling yourself, quite literally.

[@zoesylvester8539]

I'm 28 years old. When I graduated high school at 18, I convinced myself that I could just start working and have a good life. Ten years of awful entry level jobs later I didn't really have anything to show for my time. There are a lot of my own mistakes in there, a lot of metal health issues I wasn't dealing with, and I was in the closet - but ultimately I blew a decade of my life thinking I didn't need technical skills. Now I'm in college for a computer programming Advanced Diploma that will let me get a BSc in CompSci in about 4 years total. One thing I have noticed about college, is that the workload for my program (which is considered to have an extremely high workload) is actually very light compared to just working full time + overtime. The work is also a lot more enjoyable. I keep a detailed Trello board with all of my assignments for the next month organized by class and priority, every day I pick 5-10 tasks, and I just do homework for about 4-6 hours after my 2-4 hours of classes. This is time spent listening to podcasts, chatting with friends, and taking breaks as often as I want to. I work at a very leisurely pace, enjoying what I'm doing, and so far my "super intense" program has been nowhere near as difficult as any of the jobs I've had over the last decade. I worked in offices with overtime that was basically mandatory (unless you wanted your bosses to hate you,) working 50-70 hour work weeks in call centers where every second of your time was documented and every aspect of your performance was scrutinized. The environments were designed to crush individuality and expression, and they absolutely did not care about your mental health or well being. In my area, entry level positions that didn't require a degree were greatly outnumbered by the people looking for work, so the mentality at these offices was very much "if you give us any resistance we will invent reasons to fire you." Now I have 4 days (~20 hours) of classes a week, about 25-30 hours of homework, all of which is in a pleasant, safe, encouraging environment. In my country school is heavily subsidized so my student debts will be minimal, thankfully. I have enough free time that I am teaching myself some additional skills outside of what my program covers - specifically some art / design skills to help bridge the gap between designer and developer, as well as Python and Java which aren't covered by my program. I am really enjoying myself right now. This is fun. The point is, shitty jobs will make you want to kill yourself. I don't mean that as hyperbole, I mean that after a year in some shitty cubicle farm, the prospect of blowing your brains out seems more appealing than going in to get yelled at by your dickhead pathetic tyrant boss again. Don't blow your time in school partying, take it seriously so you have more freedom and maneuverability to get the kinds of jobs that treat you well and you enjoy. Don't fuck it up and spend a decade in puppy mills like I did.

[@ryerye9019]

College students are the customer. They don't want to scare them away. Colleges spend more on facilities and athletics than on academics. As the NYU professor says, college is marketed like a luxury good.

[@Anton-oq3zt]

Why won't just take some bootcamp? Don't you know that you won't get any job with only cs degree unless it is from Harvard or MIT. Also do not learn multiple languages focus on one learn it thoroughly. I reccomend you to learn Java then SQL, Maven/Gradle, Spring, Hibernate and then you can practise doing some backend projects.

[@zoesylvester8539]

@@Anton-oq3zt Well my program has a 95% hire rate after graduation and I have the top marks in my class so I'll probably be fine. I'm also using my free time to learn some other skills outside of the scope of my program to make myself valuable. I'll be okay.

[@doublepmcl6391]

Looks like a very good long text for reddit too.

[@Anton-oq3zt]

@Johannes Terzis dude she is 28 old among 19-20 yo kids. She just wants a stable job which cs degree cannot guarantee.

[@digitalnomad9087]

I have a bachelor's degree in Information Technology and minor in Computer Science. I learned a lot of theory, took a lot of random classes unrelated to my major and in the end I learned everything from my first internship/job anyways. I never understand why companies require four year degrees to get a job if they're just going to start you from the bottom and teach you what you need to know for the job. It would save students a ton of debt if companies actually trained their employees to begin with.

[@AvocadoAtrocity]

I was skeptical watching this channel. Seemed too genuine. The moment you mentioned the "2 year operating" for a business loan, I knew everything was legit (we have very, very similar life paths). Josh is speaking the unfiltered truth-- for now.

[@NotShowingOff]

No amount of degrees keeps you above the danger. Credentialism is destroying the country.

[@Shadowgangster123]

Sure it is that’s why it’s become the standard and that’s way more and more credentials are being required right

[@E.R.O-yt]

College doesn't teach money management.

[@danielpintjuk]

It teaches you how to sirvie on subsistance minimum. That is valuable for money management.

[@ProactiveIfeatu]

i remember a teacher at my old college told me that you have like 164 hours in a week and if you are taking 12 credits that means you should spend at least 48 hours studying for those classes per week. but if you want to go above and beyond you should invest 60 hours a week for studying. And i remember thinking "nah, imma play some League instead"

[@gwappo4852]

Lmao what rank were you?

[@GabrielTobing]

I have 4 classes... 60x4 = 240... Yeah, lemme invent a time machine first then XD

[@GtfoTyvm]

@@GabrielTobing your not very bright are ya?

[@GabrielTobing]

@@GtfoTyvm You have a solution then?

[@GtfoTyvm]

@@GabrielTobing all im saying is I dont know who taught you that common core math bullshit but the op comment was 12 credit hours was supposed to be 48 hours studying. 48 divide by 4 is 12 hours per class a week. 60 divide by 4 is 15 hours per class a week. The professor only wanted the extra 3 hours for students to study and get good grades but let's be honest unless it's physics or chemistry you not putting in that time in most classes. Your math made no sense before no matter how you cut it. 1 class is 3 credit hours, 4 classes is the 12 credit hours op posted. Your math was 60 (recommended study hours per week) X 4 classes when you needed to divide to get what the amount of hours recommended per class per week. Which is like what the op posted 60 hours per week. Your magic common core 240 hours is dumb. Your dumb take a math course please or english course.

[@abdullahyahya9507]

As a Computer Science Student that worked in the REAL LIFE, what we study at the university is the perfection of the software engineering process and they draw a perfect image in our mind that all the software companies works in an organized way, DRY Code , and organized team communication. But that's not in real life !

[@devena6166]

Literally facts when he said we go to a 2 hour class then do nothing and not get shit done lol

[@Mate811]

Do you have 2 hour classes in the US? I'm an university student in Europe, 4 semesters already done in Computer Science, and the least amount of classtime I had is like 30 hours per week. Wouldn't say they did anything useful with that time though.

[@aimless-drifter]

@BS Handle Created so at my school ME students usually study 10hr a day, they stay at school after lab and lectures to do work or just study. When I'm stuck on something, I just start walking around school and I always find other ME students even if it's 8pm at night.

[@ChipsMcClive]

Thank you for mentioning the importance of communicating understandably with people of other technical backgrounds. Consideration for others is the most important skill an engineer can have.

[@PatxiVergara]

What I learned in College: 1- In labs and group projects the smarty pants lazy the whole thing while the simple-minded do all the work. 2- Those that were a**lickers get the best jobs and those that worked hard end up in a poor salary job or unemployed. 3- Not all students are treated equal (And I don't mean people of different races), I mean people who are a**lickers to the professors. 4- Took 7 courses in math: Pre-Calculus 1- 2, Calculus 1-2-3, Differential Equations and Complex Variables that ended up been useless in my life. Not only that, most engineering courses require those maths, so if you fail and have to repeat them you can't advance in your department courses. 5- Not a single of the engineering courses I took, have any real-life value in the working environment. 6- Quite honestly the courses were directed towards someone who wants to be a 'scholar' aka someone that's going to keep their studies to be a professor, make papers or studies rather than preparing students to the job market and working environment. What I didn't learn in College: 1- How to be a professional. 2- WTF an Engineer does. 3- How to get employed without been an a**licker so a professor or the school accommodates you in a job. (And yes I do hate people like that. 4- College never taught me what I was supposed to do as an Engineer or how to solve problems. 5- I could get my entire education online for free, and I ended up with a huge debt.

[@nickschneider6968]

The ability to not get offend. aka having thick skin- one of the most important life skills they don't teach you in college.

[@mrjokerq]

I'm getting a bachelors in electronic engineering here in Brazil. It's intense. And when I say intense I mean 5 hours of classes every day + 6 hours/day of internship (here we do it during university, not after). And I completely agree with you. University teaches some things but it's 95% useless. I'm glad universities here are free. And I'm also glad that I'm not delusional about "the high paying job I'm going to land after college". That's why I'm investing the money from my internship in learning skills like copywriting, closing, social dynamics...

[@ChiragKava]

I m in second year and still I don't have a single internship 😢

[@DjMonak]

In Italy the situation is very similar. I did information technology at university years ago, and it's the same situation you describe: a lot of subjects that I didn't use in my everyday job (system administrator), many things that university never explained to me, and a lot of old technology that was already considered outdated many years ago and no more requested by the market. An almost complete waste of time and money.

[@tronicbasez1814]

DjMonak They don’t teach modern technology because they don’t know themselves. The tech world move too fast that is very difficult for school to stay updated. If they try, they would have to retrain their teachers for every 2 years, which is very expensive.

[@GOlone9597]

If you're not yet in college, enrolled in accounting. Even if you don't want to be an accountant or CPA, it'll teach you a lot of practical things (it'll help when you want to have your own business in the future).

[@querube78]

$6,000 per semester? Dude that's a whole year in Mexico. I'm in my early 20's and didn't go to college despite having 5.0 GPA and top SAT's . I am actually kind of glad I didn't; none of the careers I thought I would enjoy were anything like I imagined them and I met plenty of people who went to college and are now working in the same job with a high school grad except now they have thousands of dollars in depth only to find out we both don't like the job. I am saving to so to college in Mexico with my own money so I can make the decision more wisely and with an almost fully developed brain vs my 17 year old naive brain. Thank you for your videos bro. More teens should watch this to better understand that yes, you are top of the class...but you cannot act condescending in your workplace. Your employer does not give a shit about your club activities and full ride scholarship, he wants you whenever he wants and to pay you as little as he can get away with. You will also probably not be surrounded with people who praise you all the time but with idiots who are here due to seniority or because they simply "know people". Sure, maybe you were special in that ghetto town you grew up in but now you are competing with a sea of people from all over the world who are just as qualified as you and can have more skills than you simply due to where they were born. People skills can mean the difference between getting pushed around your boss and other employees in a job that might actually be good and actually getting the money, respect, or credit you deserve. Slot of students can also get stuck in the "stick it out" mentality and "never give up" but not realize that saying "no" or "fuck it I quit" is valid if your health is at risk.Also now that I've gotten drunk with working adults and partied out with in my adult life I have no desire to party hard with some underage kids and do stupid decisions now that I know what is at stake. Most countries let you drink at 18 so it doesn't feel special anymore and once you've paid bills, rent,and a car you realize you really can't afford a drug habit. Good job as always.

[@Killermike2178]

The dream is free, the hustle is sold separately...

[@psychomonk2443]

I studied an integrated degree program. That means i got hired by a company to study. They payed my student loans so i am completely debt free. The degree was not really that helpfull in my learning experience but gave me time to accumulate to the business world. They also gave us awesome references (i i.e. worked projects with airport management and a huge clinic) I would do it again even though i would start my side hustle earlier. Find the niche in the system!

[@nbk5008]

I had no idea that starting a business would impact my ability to get a mortgage. Thanks for sharing that info.

[@pranansubba9587]

Josh, you speak our heart. I absolutely agree with you. Modern education are becoming like business.

[@juniper7611]

I have planned on going to school for a bachelors in nursing to become an RN, but part of me wonders if I should instead become certified as a LPN or get an associates from a community college and become a Respiratory Therapist or Surgical Tech. There's so many pros and cons. On one hand a bachelors degree would open a world of career paths, but the thought of spending 4 more years in state with the likelihood of debt is daunting. Even if I get an associates or certification and make $40,000+/year at 19-20 y/o my parents (mom with masters in math, dad who had to go into the military because he couldn't afford school, and struggles finding jobs because apparently a bachelors degree is worth more than 20 years of military commitment) would say that I'm "selling myself short." I was reading a discussion on a med school forum about whether or not it's worth it to minor in a language. Someone made an amazing point, "If you're taking a Chinese Mandarin class each semester, $900-1200 at a time, you might as well buy a one way ticket to China and work there for a semester. You would learn more in those 4 months than in 4 years of classes, plus gain an amazing experience." That's sort of been my mindset these last few days as I've looked into colleges to apply to this fall. I love learning languages and am self taught, so why don't I just get a certification and make a reasonable living while getting to see the world? Idk, I'm so frustrated and stressed. Why is it acceptable for 17-18 y/o's to make life changing financial decisions?

[@jennifersilves4195]

My parents told me they’d be forgiven if I couldn’t pay. Student debt ruined my life.

[@filipportman5981]

Unfortunately I've wasted my 7 years on the University. The fact that I have to constantly worry about my thesis advisor's mood that he may flip out and invalidates my thesis makes me very afraid about pursuing PhD. I have parents with fixed mindsets about education because at their times education could raise you to high levels. This is not true anymore. I see many families who waste their savings on university and school tuitions when they could provide a descent life for their kids by investing those savings to create a small independent business. I wish I could have escaped from this rat race right now.

[@lesstessress]

I’m about to be a freshman and seeing those high loan numbers (plus insane interest rates) broke my heart man. I’m just hoping I can make a good career out of it at least so I’m not so burdened in the entirety of my twenties and possibly thirties

[@harm991]

Find a way to minimize the loan (unknown school better than harvard)

[@ahmedhashmi3584]

@@harm991 oh yea! Harvard is just a college that makes your resume look good..that’s about it..

[@CameronCobb]

Great video Josh. Almost all the points that you talked about are reasons why I’m dropping out of college to continue pursuing my own studies to eventually become a software engineer.

[@burlapvest7521]

Self teaching?

[@CameronCobb]

BurlapVest yes

[@TraceyOsbornHR]

There are so many people with Bachelors degrees and Master's degrees who can't find a good job. I really hope that young people watching your channel will take to heart what you've said. It could save them years of debt! Take care.

[@razamadaz3417]

Great tips as always Josh. I'm 48 and considering I.T after being made redundant from my old job, which over the years, has become obselete. I find your vids inspiring, keep them coming.

[@picklerix6162]

Skip the IT and learn how to write code. Even better, learn electronics and learn how to write code. There are a million people in Asia who will work for nothing in IT and bean counters are always cutting the IT department to outsource/offshore the work to save money.

[@IreFang]

@@picklerix6162 companies can't outsource certain IT jobs. Help desk will be outsourced but server stuff and cyber security has to be people in their country.

[@FF18Cloud]

I shouldn't have clicked this video and read the comments :/ I already had an inkling of what I was going to read. Like, besides the debt (I did get scholarships though), my degree actually helped me out a lot. Did things I wouldn't have on my own. Failed WAY early and got that experience of rejection and how to persevere, learned how much I hated crunch (I was a game dev major, had a lot of late nights cracking open the C), debated professors about UX, etc... There are loads of problems with universities and there are definitely problems with the student loan system and the cost of going to school, but still, man, if you knew what you wanted to do was software engineering, and you didn't know a lot about the industry when you're 18, and you did pretty okay in highschool to get scholarships (this is probably the most important part, nowadays), like, I know myself well enough that I have had trouble motivating myself but college, especially since it opened me up to Game Jams, Hackathons, and Code Fests, where as a student, I could help organize a student game festival, etc, EVERYONE's experience is different. And unpopular opinion to the comments below, I whole heatedly believe, despite knowing that I could have done stuff so much better in college and challenged myself way more than I did when I went to school, I enjoyed it. Made friends, didn't party, joined clubs, met my idols (I had a chance to interview the late Monty Oum due to being a journalist for my uni's school paper), helped influence future classes, I still "invade" my college and talk to some of my fun professors, while being able to still use some of the facilities of my ol' campus. I get that shitting on school is the *it* thing, and DEFINITELY there are traps -> like how you feel forced to go to school -> how US hs doesn't prepare you well enough, setting you up for failure -> how people don't figure out what they want to do that early but are forced to make a decision -> how community college isn't respected all that much -> the obvious overprice of college Like the cons are again massive, but ugh, so much hate. It isn't like for those who did go to school and felt like they taught themselves, did you live in your room and never leave except for class? Anyways, this was too ranty and wordy, and I went around in 2 circles with my point. Point is, I enjoyed my college life, did fine, got a decent first job out of school, and definitely had professors who taught me things I wouldn't have learned or understood by myself had I tried self-teaching myself. Stuck to a reasonable college nearby and didn't well enough in HS to get scholarships to help with the cost of college

[@toastom]

I agree. I'm looking at going to college right now and the ones I'm looking at sound like they're great for getting people ready for life after college.

[@HotepSaoirse]

FF18Cloud this comment is very real. I going back to community college so that way I'm not paying out the ass for said degree. I'm going this route so I don't have to pay $40k-$70k in loans. The thing about college/university communicates that you can stick with something for a long time is bull. There are plenty of things that can demonstrate that like losing weight and keeping it off or learning another language.

[@rezzbuilds8343]

This is how university should be done, you got a good head on your shoulders and would probably succeed in any environment

[@camengadisaputra]

i learn most of thing from internet than at collage

[@theartistdiamond9397]

The college/university model has been obsolete for a couple of decades; $40k+ for an education one can get online for under $1k. Certs are the way to go. You can still make six-figures (if that's your priority).

[@chickengod3541]

I feel like the only problem with that is dedication, support system and the fact that some companies still wouldn't consider that good enough. We should definitely start heading this way though!

[@theartistdiamond9397]

@@chickengod3541Those are valid points. Maybe the first step toward improving college education would be to audit each institution's degree track versus the cost of providing it; apply some Lean or TPS.

[@Talishar]

@@theartistdiamond9397 Or just purge the refuse degrees and keep the traditional ones that are actually needed. Most degrees outside of STEM aren't needed. People were doing those jobs before degrees came out and the overall workload hasn't changed a whole lot beyond maybe using computers over typewriters and filing cabinets. Computer science is a relatively young degree and is an offshoot of electrical engineering. Much of what old electrical engineers did was get tossed a coding manual for what they were working on and that's how they learned to code. This didn't need a degree for a long time. A degree wasn't necessary to be a coder. Just some time and drive to learn the coding. Hell, most of what I've seen from the software world that barely if ever works has already started poisoning other STEM majors like AGILE and SCRUM. It's interesting to me how computer science has developed so many project management techniques yet so many software projects never make it by their deadline. I remember even asking one of my ME professors why are they pushing AGILE and SCRUM so hard when so many software companies and departments rarely if ever make deadlines.

[@harm991]

How to get money: 1. Trade school or University Engineering/IT 2. Get some experience 3. Become self-employed and rake in the money Go all-in on hard skills. You can always go more social, but becoming more technical after college is extremely unlikely.

[@EriComicuDesu]

Hearing this makes me happy to be a swede. While I don't agree with everything my socialist country decides, I'm very happy to have free education

[@godpilled9077]

It's not free it's tax payer funded. You are not only paying for your degree, you are paying for yours and everyone else's for your entire life.

[@amanb8698]

@@godpilled9077 probably a better investment than fighter jets that don't fly, or tanks that sit in lots, or drones or aircraft carriers etc. or corporate bailouts, or armored personnel carriers for your local police department, cuz thats what US money is going to, and every American pays for that the rest of their lives.

[@IreFang]

@@godpilled9077 still cheaper than being in debt for the rest of your life.

[@samanthamorris2744]

​@God Pilled we pay taxes for roads and look how messed they are still . At least they get a degree

[@elenagarcia3466]

Totally agree with you, Josh. I'm a marketing manager at 20, I just jumped straight into work. University or "college" in America haha as mentioned is not the be-all and end-all.

[@MDobri-sy1ce]

What I learned in college is staying with one thing now days doesn't guarantee you a job like you said. Now days you have to diversify for job security. After I got my Business Degree I worked on Psephology, Sociology, and Business Law. I am planning on taking a few more law courses this year but I have plans to p switch to Environmental Officer. I would say do not specialize in one thing anymore! Ask for internships and e-mail your resume to bosses asking if their are any internships available. I found this out the hard way. Having a multitude of courses and skills is good however, applying for jobs that have almost nothing to do with your focus sometimes leads to a lot of wasted energy and time.

[@mccama19]

Wow, his experience at university was really different from mine. I had classes 6 days a week, most days were 16 hours. I had scholarships (yay, no debt) that meant keeping crazy high GPA. Partying? Gaming? No time for that. It was tiring and stressful, and in the end the only useful skills i learned were the soft skills.

[@gerryjtierney]

Liar

[@ducksoop.x]

16 hours? How and why? Did the professors just jerk themselves off?

[@WomboBraker]

for a native finn, going to uni here is free. you also get government support and government backed loan with almost 0% interest rate.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

I went to school in the US and finla8

[@xSh4dowNinja]

Make merch that says "fluke gang" or "fluke loopers" on the front

[@ThePandafriend]

"fluke cult" :D

[@robertf9063]

fluke loops

[@sheepman6291]

I didn't know I had to wait two years to get a home after declaring a business title. Thank you. I had been running my business/side hustle for several years, but I never got a businesses title from the government because all the money went into school. This really saved me and my wife a lot of grief. We will make sure to get the home before I acquire a business title from the government. This really saved us. Thank you.

[@sunshinerainbows4627]

Students who failed engineering moved to business, partied regularly, and aced the business courses at the local university where I went. Shame engineers are not valued more.

[@jamief123]

Hearing about these high college fees for some people makes me really appreciate the fact that I can go to college for free in my country. The government pays all my fees for me.

[@TwoDollarGararge]

It comes out of your parents taxes someone pays for it somehow

[@Eugene.Berezin]

What my degree taught me: How to work with people. Negotiation. How to learn the info that I need. How to work smart not hard. What it didn’t teach me: How to write my resume. How to negotiate my salary. How to look for a job. How to open my own business. I was able to actually use my degree. Super grateful for it.

[@gerryjtierney]

Liar

[@chiyerano]

Yeah, so true about not really or easily being able to stand up to teachers. It's like 'do as I say or I'll fail you' kind of thing. This along with the whole student loan thing are major issues I have with college. I would love to go to an accredited college degree program in STEM fields where the only time I have to be physically in a class on campus is when I am conducting a lab experiment, handing in an assignment I can't just email or mail in, or taking an exam. Since college doesn't teach you many important social or soft skills as you mentioned I would rather just do everything else such as lectures, recitations, projects, and everything else online or offline on my time outside of campus. That is where people seem to really learn anyway and not so much in a typical lecture hall or campus classroom. And the program would be affordable to the point where a person can work a part time job and pay off a whole year's worth of tuition and fees at a time without needing to take out loans.

[@kylewernert9785]

High schools don't set realistic expectations for students. Students are told to go to college without knowing realistic end-results. They don't explain it well, so students mindlessly apply to colleges not knowing the likely outcomes. Regardless, I'm glad I attended college.

[@ceaser8999]

6 things my cs degree didn’t teach me (web development course) 1. Advanced css 2. How to build a realistic modern website 3. Advanced js. Promises, closures , this keyword in depth etc.. 4. How to optimize a website 5. React or any popular framework that will help me get a job (We learned outdated frameworks) 6. How to actually build and secure a restful api I learned all of this and more from KZbin, Udemy, and medium blogs

[@islamhamdi4033]

That's web development, CS is more concerned about the academic and theoretical side of computing and much less about the real world technologies

[@ElectronGuigui]

In France the best schools and universities are public and you pay almost nothing for them. Say less than 1k/year. This is sooo AMAZING compared to the US.

[@lewismartin4306]

I had to go through the process of teaching myself all the stuff that my parents, school and the culture didn't bother teaching me about real life. Modern world is a fuck you to young men and boys. Edit. Thank goodness for KZbin! Better education from here than my degree

[@_sam_kulkarni_8699]

Really liking the pace of your videos! I have been watching them during my lunch breaks.

[@GAPIntoTheGame]

Times like these that I am grateful that I go to college in Europe. Even if colleges in the country I live in are more expensive than the rest of Europe, it is still far cheaper than in the US.

[@MrFuguDataScience]

9 years of college and a bunch of debt: what a scam. What I didn't learn was how to get a damn job or learn to start a business.

[@lisadioguardi5742]

One of the most useful things for me was two years of high school drama class. I'm not very social, so if I'm meeting with someone or interviewing I can just put on a character. Also, take a lot of classes in college that make you think about other people. It makes you better at imagining the people who will be using your software/website so that it won't work great for you but suck for everyone else.

[@executor31]

Student loans ? Laughs in European :D

[@WomboBraker]

XD

[@reij5264]

I love Finland actually

[@MrMehoy]

USA PAYCHECK 10k after taxes 8.2k EUROPEAN PAYCHECK 10K after taxes 4.2k...LAUGHS WITH A BUSCH LIGHT

[@danielpintjuk]

@@MrMehoy probably evens out after you pay out of pocket for a million dollar canser treatment. Because your company dropped your health insurance right after you got canser form eating all that MacDonalds and steroid injected beef.

[@MrMehoy]

@@danielpintjuk You must have not had a good paying job or know how laws work. If a company were to do that I would be a very, very rich man. European college is not free, they are paying for "free college" and "free healthcare" with their insane tax rates. I have great health insurance and have never had to wait longer than 30 mins ever for a visit. I will not allow people to abuse the system while I pay more than 50% in state income tax. LMAO, please educate yourself with whatever education system you have wherever your are from.

[@JWParkerPhDDDiv]

just a little sad fact but where you get your degree matters. depending on major you want a positive well known one especially in that field. I'm considering a masters from UC Davis but all of my college's are well known for their business programs. I have had some companies like boeing, tesla, and even some media companies try to recruit me as well as government agencies. My work experience was primarily in hospitality so I went with a well known hotel for my job.

[@abdullahyahya9507]

Keep it up Joshua and PLEASE DONT STOP What are you doing right now, I really enjoy your videos and you're a realistic person !

[@justjacqueline2004]

University is a job and it sucks no matter the course.I believed way back that STEM would lead to a job,expect to move and still be paid buttons by owners who tell you about their lavish life but can't be bothered to pay a salary and are utterly shocked when you leave.Your professors are not your friends think of them as parasites,most are useless. I left with degrees from supposedly good universities and I still ended up cleaning houses for a living with day jobs and putting together a software system for Pharmacy.Also expect to endure PTSD after your degree/s,the professors insist on you learning material which was out of date when they were presenting it but its part of the degree.You now get the drift.Many had a wonderful time at university I can say it was dreadful and stressful that lead to debt.Clearing that came from side hustles not the job I was qualified for. Also,expect resentment from work colleagues and more.

[@Dennis0824]

The thing that ticks me off the most is that neither high school or college never teach basic personal finance. That is a travesty. People should learn how to budget, understand how mortgage financing works, car loans, cost-benefit analysis, basic taxes. Some general economics would be beneficial as well.

[@Talishar]

There are ways to get a full university degree with little to no debt afterwards. I just got my mechanical engineering degree and have no debt afterwards. There are tools available, they're just less prestigious and often looked down upon but are there for you if you want them. The first, go to a community college and get your general education certification for transfer out of it. At worst, it'll take you an extra semester or two, but it will be far cheaper to do than full on College/University by a factor of 6 in my case. Many people snub their noses and look down on Community Colleges but I was able to get all of my general education courses completed and certified and then was able to transfer into a university without having to test into it. Didn't have to worry about SATs or any of that and make it into a highly competitive engineering school in the region. The best way to get your education for not debt at all, which is what myself and many others I knew did, is to enlist in the military. Do your time, opt into the GI bill early and you can get out and go to nearly any University you can get into. Many schools will also be part of the Yellow Ribbon program where if the tuition and other costs exceed what the G.I. bill will cover, the College/University will eat those extra costs themselves. This gets you a whole undergraduate degree with 0 cost of your pocket. Because I did Community College, there were plenty of tuition assistance that effectively made Community College free for me so I was able to hold off on the G.I. Bill until I transferred to University and I now after my degree, I still have a year's worth of it left to chase a certification or license of my choosing if I wanted to.

[@pattiodors8296]

You're awesome Joshua. Honestly honest. You're not to forget, that it's losers like me, who rate , really rate graduated people. And educated people. Because it's inspiring to those willing to be good will driven. Because can. Because want to. And because I'm so happy, to be learning still, and love the communications being kept open, and your own self point of view, and truth. My own is its own cross to bear , which is why I always tend to take the humanist, and optimistic option, in my own working time. The wins I achieve are realistically set. None enmeshing or obligation, or embroiling geared. It's very difficult to find like mindedly focused, as everyone is sooooo uptight, and, over vigilante , for it to alter the natural rolling on the river , cruiser control management, and senses for the style lines, of the skater mum, and her patience and passion for , higher education and advanced learning and ; trades qualified development and then executing in a way which is : not about anything other than loving the chance to share, exchange and applying an appreciation for , and gratitude for : today's technology and services. I'm humbled, and just wouldn't be doing anything other, than hoping in others picking up on, my own passion for the inventive and entrepreneurship, scholarship completing , and stayers being, forthcoming. It's so impressive to me. So important and impertinent too. It's a great thing, to share good moments, and clear thinking about values, which matter to you.

[@giovanninavarro3898]

I am not really a computer science or engineering student. I am an MIS/Finance Business major and in our College of Business they start off by teaching you how to interview for positions and how to format resumes since Freshman year. In sophomore year they start teaching a sales class that everyone who plans on being a business major has to take. Then they teach you how to negotiate salaries and stuff. There are GREAT programs in sales too that have a 98% job placement within consulting and sales. (of course, assuming you put in all the effort required) I am somewhat surprised engineering colleges dont offer this. Do they?

[@cedurick]

My degree made me over 10 times what it cost, definitely a good investment. It even made me money BEFORE I had it. Pick your school wisely please.

[@vrathion1567]

Working with people who dont pull their weight.... I was reassigned to a team of 3 for our project. I do 60 percent, second guy does 30, third guy does 10, fourth guy doesn't even bother. Second guy did a decent amount of work, spending most of his time flirting with his girl Third guy didn't do anything significant till he got an internship, and was kinda cooperative ever since. He did whatever the company asked of him but not a bit of work into our project, without which he won't be allowed to intern. Fourth guy doesn't give a damn doesn't care

[@sierranexi]

Just to add... If you miss one payment on your student loans it can severely damage your credit (because it's really as many as accounts as semesters). Know your options and defer or forbear when needed. Also, income-based repayment plans. Don't ever default.

[@karljay7473]

The whole idea behind college should be clear, you don't need a paper to prove you know things, you either know the things or you don't. The paper is artificial and they charge you thru the nose for it because they can. Everything they do can be done online for free. The Gov could hire 1 person per subject to write a book and video tape lectures and give them away for free. The gov could then have certs, have you take a test to prove what you know. Charge $100 for each test like Microsoft does and there's your degree. Costs you maybe $1K, not $40K. When I got my degree, it required course that I never used and didn't want. I took French, geology, art, etc... didn't need those.

[@GAPIntoTheGame]

Love the casting Witcher signs in your monitor

[@HackersSun]

Oh, is THAT what they are? Nice

[@TheUtuber999]

Rack up tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt so some H-1B visa holder can face palm you when you show up for the tech job.

[@rust.challenge]

In my country full-time studies are free but so what, in my opinion (studying is just prolonging childhood and acquiring bad habits) and maybe some nice contacts

[@jansa940]

it's more then market demand that drives opportunity. there is plenty of demand for programmers and other IT jobs, but with offshoring and also where companies sponsor/hire foreigners on work visa, you become more expendable.

[@samuelmontypython8381]

So I live in Japan and mortgages work like student loans in the US 😂. The interest rates are super low, usually sub 1% but you WILL pay that money back somehow, which probably explains the low rates. Officially they have a form of “bankruptcy” but it’s far different than the US version of bankruptcy and it pretty much ruins you for life, while still having to sell organs to pay at least some of the loan off

[@canyounot4665]

Overloading on units taught me time management. There was no time to procrastinate, I was in the library about 100 hours a week for the academic year

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Or you fail out. That's risky

[@canyounot4665]

Joshua Fluke the risk forces me to not procrastinate

[@mathgasm8484]

I took 17 hours of math, physics and computer science classes. I was happy when I finished that semester.

[@andyyag9623]

Failing courses is more accepted, or sometimes expected, in Germany. You can overload and bounce back easily.

[@BichaelStevens]

We're humans, not machines!

[@jonathanregan5682]

This is late reply. But i do think that time management is a thing that you should learn whatever your job is going to be. I do agree that whatever your department is, you should at least make acquaintance with people outside your department. You never know what they can bring to you. Standing up to your boss is a joke in my uni and my country. A lot of unnecessary red tape and only the super intelligent one(but sucks at teaching)can stand up to their boss.

[@AndriusJankauskasJankiz]

Finished my Computer Science AS and realized how unvalued the degree was. Then went to a city college to get Electrical Engineering BE and am very happy I did. Had some terrible professors, but in the end I had two jobs lined up before graduating. Went with a government job, and even though the pay could be better and the HR is messy, I know this is a guaranteed spot and I won't need to be on edge of my seat every time a company is bidding on a work order. Plus I have time to build my own projects. 4PM, door closes and the rest of the day is all mine

[@picklerix6162]

Some of those government jobs don’t pay Jack but the benefits can be good. Somebody from Sandia Labs came to interview students in my graduating class. I didn’t even interview because the starting pay was so low.

[@camerongreen9328]

Great Video, 6 things I wish I learned during college! Keep up the great work!

[@vancoverden]

I'd love to see a template of how you stay organised with Notion. I just recently got into it but don't know how to best use it for productivity yet.

[@aniclips275]

Could you make a video comparing students loans from different countries vs America? It would give a guideline to your younger viewers and would save them money. As always, super video.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

I dont have loans from other countries

[@lewisbirkett4428]

Student loans seem insane in the US. They're still expensive in the UK but nowhere near, and they get forgiven after I think 20-30 years, and you only pay 10% of what you earn above £30k

[@HeroC14]

FYI forgiven loans are treated as income earned for that tax year so you'll be in a higher tax bracket. Another downside to loan forgiveness.

[@adelaidehulahoopers9286]

I lived for the times my fellow students would go home so I could stay back in peace and concentrate on learning the material.

[@friendlyjun]

6000 dollars a semester sounds cheap actually

[@1MinuteFlipDoc]

80% of "degrees" should be free because they aren't really valued in the job market. and a young person doesn't need to spend $150K to "find themselves"

[@namesareforfriends4552]

In Soviet Russia degree gets you.

[@frankchen4229]

@@namesareforfriends4552 not too off base here considering soviet russians placed education in a top priority bracket

[@kirillvoloshin2065]

My country has so called 'budget places'. So basically if you had good grades in high school and exams, university is free. But the thing is there is a finite number of those. Plus the minimum wage is 4800 EUR/year. It's also normal for people to make 12000 EUR per year.

[@BichaelStevens]

That's called scholarship and exists in every country

[@theong9454]

RE time management: research papers and figuring out a problem or understanding some concepts dont have time limit esp if some concepts you click quickly or some you click slower some stem jobs i've applied to won't let you submit the applications without giving out salary demand. sadHRface.

[@regiepedere753]

I'm also a Mechanical Engineer, all you said are just so real. thanks bruh

[@kazykamakaze131]

To all who might read this please take this advice. If you have to take a loan for a degree consider doing an online degree especially if you are doing computer science. If you do this way you can work while you study and the work load will be less since you don't have to sit in mandatory classes and only get measured by your assignments and tests. So if you do computer science or IT do it online it will save you a huge amount of money and there are online programs from the best universities around the world now. A few of the universities allows working ahead of schedule and if you are diligent you could finish your degree in 2 years instead of 3 years. Since you saved money and did your degree in faster time scale this would allow you to do a Masters in the time of a normal Bachelors at a class driven university. Just consider this pathway as it is available for those that didn't know.

[@dien.phan95]

For me, it is "how to professionally shift blame"

[@mann234]

I hated differential equations and calculus and calculating the strength of building works.

[@Areshiones]

I remember when I was at University and we had to make one of these team projects (called PBLs or Project Based Learning) I had to do all the stuff by myself. There was a page to fill out stating the duties of all members. I put for the first guy "he was an asshole who did not care at all of what was going on" and for the second one "Another asshole who does not even know what to do with his life". My project got 100/100 but it got -5 for writing bad words. 95/100 but I believe it was totally worth it. From there, I always tell the people who are assholes what they really are when I live in free speech based societies

[@beldiman5870]

I love the idea of free speech but let's face this does not exist in any societies. Nobody likes to be told they are assholes, no matter how objective this might be. The difference between democracies and dictatorships like China or KSA is that in China you know it's not OK to insult the leadership while over here you are told that's OK even if it's not.

[@Areshiones]

@@beldiman5870 I mean, you are not insulting the leadership here. But I get your point. I don't know what is better, to live in the illusion of being free and then get the shock to find out it is 1984 out there or knowing it from the start... At least the 90's were nice...

[@goodjab9256]

*Informative content as always*

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Thanks

[@dum.briyani]

you're the mentor I want.

[@Sage16226]

Not being able to complete your homework even though you have a lot of free time. That brings back high school memories.

[@xSh4dowNinja]

Wrogbe Nepe Dude high school is pretty much working a 9-5 job every week day without getting paid. There isn't exactly a whole lot of free time and teachers are constantly trying to micro manage you to make sure you're on task.

[@aimless-drifter]

Before COVID in 3rd year ME school most students were averaging 70hr a week studying. Some people who want good grade live on campus and study 100hr a week. By far the most stressful experience in my life. I have worked as insurance broker, and had engineering summer job, and it was way more fun and I actually played computer games after work and weekend.

[@somethinginteresting01]

I know this is out of the topic Josh but can I just say that ur 40% Ryan Reynolds & 60% Dax shapard like both mixed 😅 I've thought about it for too long haha and by the way ur right about everything in this vid ❤

[@NeoChromer]

To get any kind of work opportunity outside of a third world country you NEED to have a degree. If not you can't get a visa so that was my motivation for getting a degree.

[@flamehiro]

I did bachelors in computer science, but now barely any jobs even require it. I'm like wtf? I feel a bit scammed tbh

[@southerncoyote]

Definitely varies by area. I work in the DoD and it’s frequently required.