6 Unwritten Rules of Medical School

[@renee6989]

Don’t ask for other people’s grades or brag about yours. Don’t do it. Don’t be that person.

[@Thefifthjack05]

Most med schools are pass or fail so…. Not relevant most times. And med schools have 97% graduation rate. So very few fail

[@Thefifthjack05]

@Isaac Suarez I mean to get into a med school is an extremely difficult process… idk what you are trying to get at

[@Thefifthjack05]

@Isaac Suarez imagine being so uneducated about the profession itself and how the society’s financial system works 😂😂😂 Jesus you are ignorant. 1. If you think doctors do nothing, then get stabbed and go to ER and see what they do in person. 2. Pharm companies don’t get rich because of doctors. They get rich through patents and products they make. They are a business just like Apple or amazon. Do you also say that to people with iPhones?

[@Zaynersyy]

@Isaac Suarez then you can go be a doctor and work for free. If you want to change the world, why dont start from yourself?

[@jettjones8521]

@Billy Gaddis Silver as someone who’s worked in healthcare believe me, I wish people would help themselves but they don’t, asking doctors to fix their obesity, heart problems when they aren’t willing to put in the work to be healthy and they want some magic pill. There is no magic pill there is only science (this is excluding genetic and uncontrollable factors) but the majority of health problems can literally be prevented

[@marvelnerd4544]

1) Dont be Whiny 2) Know clinical rotation etiquette 3)Dont waste precious time 4)Finances( dont talk specifics) 5) Dont be solely focused on academics 6) View your classmates as long term lens 7

[@goldenalangdeo6561]

This is very helpful. 35-yr old mom here and will go to med school next year. I'm scheduled to take the NMAT (equivalent of MCAT) next month.

[@Aman-qr6wi]

Wow, Thats really cool. All the best for you.

[@yuunyuun]

Good luck 💕

[@Marie-ls4nb]

Wow!! You go girl!!

[@mikaelaguinevere6093]

OMG, a Filipino! Kumusta po ang NMAT niyo?

[@goldenalangdeo6561]

@@mikaelaguinevere6093 Hello! Will take the exam next month pa. So far I am reviewing. 🙏

[@Vendemiair]

As someone who spent 10 years in medical training (med school all the way to subspecialization), all the rules mentioned here are practical and will do you good if you keep them in mind. Most of them have to do with how you interact with people, and simply put you just have to be considerate and mindful of others. Medical education and training is a tremendous grind and having a support system of people you can work well with, as well as minimizing or avoiding conflicts anywhere you rotate in helps a lot. I don't live in the U.S. though, so the part about finances wasn't too relevant for me (since the cost of medical education here isn't absurd like in the U.S.) Regarding that "high density fun", I still remember playing Counter-Strike with a bunch of med school classmates after our examinations. For a short while, it would help us forget the toxicity of med school. Many years later, I still occasionally play games though it's a tough squeeze between clinical practice and holding administrative positions in hospitals and a major medical society.

[@AgentAlexPBT]

Thank you for this!

[@judjudersawn2596]

1) don't expect anything from anyone (decency, respect, fairness, morality, maturity, impartiality, even from your teachers) 2) look out for your own interests 3) lower your cadaver into your tank slowly

[@amine2947]

what's the 3rd one?

[@Carolina-xj3dq]

#1 is FACTS!!!

[@FineWine-v4.0]

Hold up you ARE supposed to expect maturity from your peers WTH is even this

[@samiyahmasood3001]

Not dating people in the class: *Grey's laughing intensifies*

[@meliiina_4647]

teach me Teach me TEACH me teach ME TEACH ME.

[@samiyahmasood3001]

@@meliiina_4647 **CRIES IN MEREDITH GREY**

[@LJStability]

Now on my third rotation. The biggest lesson I've learned is to be adaptable and take previous advice with a grain of salt. Every rotation is different based on patient load, attending, residents, ect. Therefore, it's more important to come in with an unbiased expectation and go with the flow. Second, be very proactive at having a specific time each week to ask for feedback. I've found that the Wednesday of each week is the best time. It gives you enough time to change or improve on your skills before each Friday. Lastly, don't be afraid to ask for evaluations from your residents. I learned this lesson in pediatrics. It's better to go to each of the people you worked with and show them your gratitude for their help and then ask specifically for a good evaluation. Most people really appreciate you being up front about this and, in my experience, it does help you get higher evaluations. Personally, I think third year is even harder than my second year of medical school due to the constant evaluations on your clerkships and your board exams. But as a result, I'm learning to be more assertive and an advocate for my own training while also leaning on others for guidance. It's definitely not easy but it's made me better overtime.

[@ATA-wi2lh]

Can you make a video on rotation etiquette? - what questions are easy to look up? - unwritten annoying/appreciated things that you can do

[@Vendemiair]

"what questions are easy to look up?" --> Anything that a casual Google search or Wikipedia article will answer will fall under this.

[@mechkitten]

Whenever exposing a patient, cover them up again in parts. They are not a mannequin to be heartlessly examined. Even holding part of a bedsheet up to shield from passerbys in a busy ER. Better yet, close the curtains or close the door.

[@Vendemiair]

@@mechkitten True, you always have to be mindful of a patient's modesty, especially if the patient is female.

[@pdub673]

I totally agree with the first point. Inconveniences will happen and plans will change whether you're in medicine or not. That's a fact of life. Just gotta roll with the punches and keep on swinging.

[@nikitapriyadarshi2263]

I feel like these are some unwritten rules of not only Medical School but every important "school" stage of your life! I am gonna implement this in my high school years!

[@chrisp5526]

‘sleep when you can sleep. leave when you can leave. eat when you can eat. and visit the bathroom when… you know’.

[@MedorraBlue]

Just starting clerkship (3 year program, we go through the summer) and covid has made it so difficult to find mentors and make sense of it all. FINALLY I feel like I'm starting to get a grip on things!

[@user-gk7dn3ts1q]

compliance and silence leads to zero change fuck that

[@eddiech5659]

Do a video with "so u want to be a pathologist" please

[@studywithmedstudent4459]

My fav video so far!!!

[@killerkoegel]

Being in the pre med track (sophomore year) honestly it just looks like a long dark road

[@kgbyrd8204]

It is

[@wholeNwon]

Give serious thought to doing something else. If it has to be something medical, strongly consider dentistry.

[@Up2dateRPG]

I’m actually surprised at how many pessimistic people there are in medical school. It almost seems like it is the “popular” way to act.

[@mwelch94]

would love a video on how to study in the clinic. I always struggle to focus, and struggle to know when it is okay to study

[@andersnelson6888]

These are top-tier good tips. You know that because they can be applied to so many places OTHER than medical school. Thank you for these!!

[@payala4851]

Learnt this the hard way..This would've saved so many tacky situations I've been in but for those who are at the brink of starting medicine, FOLLOW THIS AS YOUR NEW RELIGION..that's all

[@dawud7391]

For the first rule, where I’m from/at it doesn’t work. Once other see u positive and happy they will think that u r the smartest and start excluding u because they envy u/ or don’t wanna compete with u (since they think u r the smartest) actually it was a huge mistake I wish I didn’t do in my first year

[@tlclookism]

Why is that a huge mistake? If they want to exclude you because you're positive and appear smart, then let them be. Why do you want to fit in with negative narrow minded people?

[@dawud7391]

@@tlclookism no one said it’s a mistake. I was just simply stating that sometimes even if u want to it won’t work

[@GG._.xx88]

UK vs US med skl next plz

[@bisolaebunoluwa4185]

Thank you so much for this 💖

[@ellios5734]

love your vids keep going

[@Ryan-sd5gk]

While my DNP school may not be as inherently stressful as MD/DO school, working and at the same time taking the practical classes (pharm, advanced assessment) can be stressful. I appreciate your advice and the applicability it has in any provider-preparing school

[@Chromosome345]

Your the goat this advice is so great

[@outwide4193]

hey! it was a good work. thank you

[@chukasssss]

Hi! I’ve been reviewing your videos a lot! I’m currently studying Bachelor in Forensic Science, and I am considering 2 options in the medical field. Either be a SURGEON or a PATHOLOGIST. Can you do a video of “So You Want to be a PATHOLOGIST?” because I’m leaning more into becoming a pathologist. But if by any chance, do you think you can do anything related to Forensic Medicine (on any field) that I can maybe consider? Thank you so much!

[@harlonuk1594]

I am a pathologist... Surgical pathology..it's good in terms of timings, the subject us fascinating, pay is good, no night duties and emergencies..cons- no patient interaction which some may find problematic ( I am cool with that) most people don't know what you do so there's that... That's all I can think about..

[@rafaelwendel1400]

Conclusion: medicine is a bucket of jerkiness and dumb irrational rules. (6th year med student here, all he says is true)

[@joshpinho9108]

Thinking of going into med school!

[@samuelsmithmed214]

Kind of disagree with the first point because if I'm being honest complaining to/about the medical school staff and curriculum is the ONLY way things get changed, at least in my school. Our med school staff at least seems to be a bit responsive to it. And hey, if ~180 highly intelligent medical students are all complaining about something, guess what, they probably are right. I of course have the underlying mentality that at the end of the day it is what it is and regardless of the situation (bad professors, inefficient use of time, and poor schedule changes) I'll have to deal with it and get through it. You should too. But please y'all do not be afraid to be quite frank whine and complain to your staff because they WILL make unfavorable and unrealistic expectations of you as students.

[@agemjourney5457]

100% pretty awful advice tbh

[@samuelsmithmed214]

@@agemjourney5457 How so?

[@Hunter-ok1cu]

I think he means being the guy constantly complaining outside of school. Not group presented criticism.

[@samuelsmithmed214]

@@Hunter-ok1cu Oh sure, we could all agree that's a pretty unlikeable characteristic.

[@samuelsmithmed214]

@Isaac Suarez You don't go to the doctor when you're sick?

[@vanshika5149]

Make a video on becoming a pathologist

[@MH_Prof]

In medical school and in life…

[@eMedSchool]

Unwritten rules matter the most.

[@Sam-el5ue]

Ngl if you have a interest free loan don’t worry to much about taking out a few extra dollars if it increases your work efficiency

[@esmeraldadiaz3618]

F, me in 5ft semester, going vs all those rules :c

[@sammytudor9710]

Very practical

[@paulTimothyk]

This is just great

[@charlesfeatherstone6196]

Is all the info you get in med school accurate. Or is it a cherry picked peer review?

[@joaoaox5485]

I'm currently in a dilemma. I worked for a long time as a graphic designer, but today I feel like I left a dream behind. I always liked the healthcare field. What skills do you believe are transferable between design and medicine? Is Design Thinking the answer to this dilemma? I would love to have your help and support. I want to continue to be creative, even in another career.

[@Allisllover]

Hello! i don't know if this will still be helpful since it's been a year but as someone who just graduated medschool, is preparing for boards and wanted to be a graphic designer at one point, id tell you that i think there definitely are skills you have that may be helpful! If you are a visual learner you can directly aid yourself and create visual memory aids. There are popular services that focus on that ("sketchy medical") but I've found that the visual stories that ive made myself are the most memorable. Apart from that, there isn't a single field in medicine that wouldn't benefit from being a creative person who has previously worked under pressure to meet deadlines.

[@wholeNwon]

Spacial relationships, 3D visualization and an artistic bent are important in dentistry. Modern dental science is fascinating.

[@humayaqubi4961]

Loved this! 😂😂😂

[@daquanbenson549]

Lol that first rule is so self explanatory I mean why get into medicine if you're a Debby Downer? Lol

[@lionkingfan]

I know classes are hard but I think the clinical rotation portions must be reallly hard

[@savvythagoat]

Do we get any time free in med school except studying for goofing around…?

[@renee6989]

Yes but not a lot.

[@savvythagoat]

@@renee6989 oeky thank you…

[@Marie-ls4nb]

If you’re very organized you can do it.

[@willgazlay5711]

Can you make a video about pursuing medical school after earning a PhD? I’m seriously considering trying to get into Columbia or NYU in 2023 for their 3-year MD programs and get into oncology as I already do cancer biology research and want to dovetail the two together.

[@wholeNwon]

Walk into a few of the schools, go to the director of the oncology program, ask for a few minutes of his/her time and introduce yourself. Then take out your list of questions. Easy!

[@IsaiJurado]

Great shameless plug!!! 🔌 lol 😂

[@manpreetenator]

I can agree with all of these, but when it comes to long-term relationships, I definitely effed up. Medical school has gotten very political and is typically very left-leaning. I don't agree with a lot of my classmates on many things and they know it. So hoping this doesn't bite me in the ass but whatever. I don't like the political bullying that is going on in my class, and from what I heard from my other friends at other medical schools, theirs as well. Sucks being a conservative in medical school. Lastly, I would recommend deleting social media. I personally don't have it and I believe it helps to keep out everyone's business. Hardly urges me to talk to many of the drama queens.

[@samuelsmithmed214]

Would agree with your take on political bullying take, I don't even read my class GroupMe, because 1) it's mainly those who are outspokenly far left leaning promoting charities and service events; and discussion of left leaning politics without room for disagreement 2) If I were to say anything I have no idea what somebody what take offense to (last year somebody got offended a lecturer referred to a boy as "young man") -- don't want to go to academic affairs trying to describe a medical case. In another instance a student was referring to an Asian female professor and did not refer to her as "Dr.---" just typed her last name. Immediately a few of the left leaning students jumped on him telling him how her intersectionality and role in society as an Asian woman makes people not usually see her as a doctor, so he should never use just her last name again, and refer to her as doctor. A white Jewish male professors last name only was used multiple times in subsequent days.

[@romari2706]

There isn’t a problem with traditional Party of Lincoln tru conservative Republicans. A lot of surgeons are such Republicans. There is a problem with the hate-mongering delusional Big Lie Trumpist Republicans who don’t believe in vaccines.

[@Joe-gi3nj]

Romeo Mariano no, the problem is with political strawmanning. You comment is an illustration of this.

[@Naijagyal22]

@@romari2706 you can be in medicine AND STILL QUESTION the vaccine. Its the same thing we can have doctors who are atheists or Muslim. No1 is better than the other. Stop being oblivious and divisive

[@j420joeyyanksbill]

I appreciate your viewpoint. lowkey though those are not people you want to be around. someone who judges your character solely based on your political beliefs is a toxic person, so smart move on your end honestly. can still be cordial with everyone, just do not have to be their friend.

[@kathryncarter6143]

Sounds like some of these rules can apply to being in the military too.

[@revieworr]

? Pain my way through medical school ??? wait what??? but is a government mandated licening scheme fosited the natural right or learning why would I pay for that?

[@BrianErwin]

to sum up, be humble

[@curtis4994]

godbless you bossman

[@STAY_hey_yeah]

Our medical school is so different, because it's a bachelor's course for us (MBBS) despite that all these tips are so useful

[@BlackCatedialogue]

True its alot different and less stressful

[@winstonava1]

"Dont make jokes, because someone is bound to get butt hurt and report you do the dean" Then you'll have to do diversity and sensitivity training/research and have to submit a report.

[@vincetheworldly537]

These people aint world changers. They just care about their own skin and surviving the politics of med school. Doing the right thing and being helpful is a pipedream. Toxicity is how these people work.

[@Naijagyal22]

Very interesting perspective. I love the honesty

[@Vendemiair]

You can't "change the world" if you're a trainee slogging through medical education and training. During that stage you're pretty much a nobody. Survive first and finish, acquire a position of influence, then you can do good -- assuming you haven't become jaded and still care about your ideals. A few years after I finished my subspecialty training, I was approached to become a training officer of a fledgling internal medicine program in a hospital that had zero specialty training programs. Fast forward half a decade and we have more IM trainees than all the nearby hospitals combined, despite them being established several decades earlier. Later, the hospital director assigned me to head an office directly in charge of education and training of all hospital employees (more than a thousand). In the two years I've been there, I, with the help of a good friend and colleague, were able to revive the entire office that was previously useless because the previous chairs we're either incompetent or didn't care. Bottom line is that you don't have to "change the world". I believe that just doing good in your area of influence is enough. This is particularly true if you're involved in teaching and training. The knowledge and skills you pass on to your trainees, they will eventually pass to others either directly as trainers and mentors or as clinicians handling patients. It's your legacy even after you're gone. Lastly, "doing the right thing and being helpful" have been principles I've held on to my whole life and it has done me nothing but good. I've found out that kindness is often reciprocated by kindness or gratitude, but if not, then don't waste your time on toxic people.

[@sturdyblastoff9300]

@@Vendemiair Would a person bound by ideals “survive” this sort of environment or just end up in the same cycle? If what you say is true, then I applaud you, but the most of your colleagues probably continue this egotistical behavior. The medical field is suppose to represent true humanity and kindness, but teaching students from the start that they are out for themselves is dangerous. You are not a nobody, you are a human being deserving respect just like everyone else. Addressing a problem is the first step to change

[@Vendemiair]

@@sturdyblastoff9300 Everything I said is actually true. I've never regarded myself as "idealistic" i.e. someone who holds lofty ideals, but simply a person who was raised well. Among the things I've held onto my entire life is the value of kindness, and modesty aside, I've lost track of how many of my patients remark how kind I am compared to other doctors they've met. I've learned that taking the time to listen to patients matters to them hugely, because a lot of doctors tend to be uninterested or even dismissive of what patients say. Unfortunately, I don't think this can be taught, or rather, it can be taught but if you don't have a compatible personality you'll never practice it. Like you mentioned, I do think there are far too many egotistical doctors. My patients readily open up to me regarding their experiences with other doctors and unfortunately I've heard a lot of "horror stories" from them. I wholeheartedly agree that teaching students from the start that they are out for themselves is dangerous. But let us qualify what that means. I have no issue in saying that you need to prioritize yourself. Med school is very tough and you'll end up spending much time and resources on yourself to survive. What's important is NOT to become Machiavellian and jockey for every advantage possible at the expense of others. For example, instead of hoarding resources like nicely organized notes, why not share these with others? I've never had a problem sharing my stuff with my classmates, and in turn I've never had a problem borrowing books, notes, etc. from them. The mentality here is collective resource sharing to enable the maximum number of people to pass. Certainly not all people share this idea (e.g. the hyper-competitive), but if form your own network of like-minded people you'll have an easier time in your journey. The caveat here is that I'm Asian and Asian culture in general is much less individualistic compared to Western culture. Maybe medical training in the U.S. or other Western nations is more difficult if the "me first" attitude is really pervasive, but I really can't say. About being a "nobody" I was referring to just the fact that you are in a relatively limited position to influence others, especially since the medical field is hierarchical. Certainly every person deserves respect but the reality is that during education and training it might be hard to find if you're in the lowest rung. Every school and training institution has its own culture and I was fortunate to enter one where hierarchy wasn't a big deal, unlike another well-known place with a toxic environment that placed a big emphasis on "rank". That's why when I was a medical resident (training in a specialization i.e. internal medicine) and had interns and medical students in my team I always made sure to treat them with respect. I just hope that it made some kind of impact so that when they were in the same position as mine in their training/career they'd also "pay it forward".

[@Uromastyxfanatics]

So you want to be a proctologist

[@royalyeen2845]

I’m not even in medical school I’m just bored lol

[@vidalskyociosen3326]

Doctors are the 3rd leading cause of death in U.S, but what nobody talks about is about its high debts, somebody has to pay.

[@el1jah393]

Oohh, I'm early :D

[@elijahmurray6094]

Cheesecake

[@Htiy]

Too political

[@elijahmurray6094]

@@Htiy lmfao 🤣

[@elijahmurray6094]

@@Htiy lmfao 🤣

[@redfoxsecurity3334]

🦊

[@Pakanahymni]

"Aplenty" is a single word