This is legal: www.robotevents.com/VRC/2022-2023/QA/1189
@22204vanguard2 жыл бұрын
babe wake up new vex hex vid just dropped
@thunderousvexrobotics77742 жыл бұрын
♥️♥️♥️ thanks, we'll cite 606X as the source for this design in the notebook if we end up using it
@aydinlutmergp4885 Жыл бұрын
I did this after seeing a team from my group use it but I just pressed an axle extender into a piece of plastic tube that was drilled to the diameter of the motor spline and fit it on by warming the plastic a little, setting it and letting it cool off which worked great!
@z-powered-nathan2 жыл бұрын
Wtf why is Ben so better than me at robotics. I made my own 3600 cart with custom polycarb and I decided I should try Ben’s anyway and it works 100x better. This is bs 10/10 design thank you
@xTigr2 жыл бұрын
Just made three of these, works great. Thanks!
@braydensmith60692 жыл бұрын
Bens your the best love the content!
@rakshanchandrasekhar94302 жыл бұрын
Does this cause motor burn out for flywheel like where the motor gets rly hot. Currently we r using blue catridge and it burns out rly fast and i was plannjng to find a better sol
@baker31282 жыл бұрын
WE LOVE VEX HEX ❤❤❤
@calebweiler78392 жыл бұрын
How would this be coded? I have this set to a blue motor with no gear ratio, and it is not working as fast as it should.
@lizadoesstuff7877 Жыл бұрын
Also trying to figure this out
@venom_3222 жыл бұрын
Wait so the motor without any cartidges works better than with cartridges?
@yanceywaddington33222 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much respect for VEX HEX!
@dav.idclips Жыл бұрын
what do people mean when they have different rpms how do you change the rpm the motor runs at or does it have to do with how you gear it with the gears? I know about the blue, red, and green ones but those have their set rpms?
@sullivan7252 жыл бұрын
what is the reason behind the bands on the motor? I see everyone doing it but have no idea why.
@606X2 жыл бұрын
quickswap. we can change out hot motors with cold ones really quickly instead of waiting for it to cool down
@marclindez2179 Жыл бұрын
Is that legal for under over?
@menashagearheads526 Жыл бұрын
Hello, my team has been working on putting together a resource to help less experienced teams, and one of the things we are trying to explain is the different cartridges and ways to alter motor speeds. I am reaching out to ask if you would be ok with us linking this video (and possibly others that do a good job demonstrating topics we are trying to explain) in this resource? I would also be more than happy to share this resource with you to make sure you approve of it's usage.
@606X Жыл бұрын
yep, this is all right! Feel free to link any of the videos on our channel, that's its purpose!
@fastmanatee87942 жыл бұрын
Does it shot well with only 600 rpm. And how does it compare to a regular blue motor
@carterjames17602 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben
@sripadsirikonda92132 жыл бұрын
I did this and put it for one motor. It works great just for the gear on the low strength axle. But when I attached the motor with the gear to the high strength axle which has the flywheel, it doesn’t move. There appears to be no torque on this. How do I fix this?
@sripadsirikonda92132 жыл бұрын
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@sripadsirikonda92132 жыл бұрын
@VEX HEX
@606X2 жыл бұрын
@@sripadsirikonda9213 there might be a lot of friction on the flywheel shaft. If the low strength shaft works ok for you, then you could probably keep it like that
@sripadsirikonda92132 жыл бұрын
@@606X The thing is I attached the fly wheel to the high strength axle and a 12 high strength gear which connected to a 60 tooth gear that is connected to a low strength axle which is the driven gear. Sorry for that. When I attached that motor to the low strength axle gear, the flywheel does not move which means there is no torque. Should I change the flywheel axle to a low strength axle? Will that fix it? Or should I directly put the motor to the flywheel?
@606X2 жыл бұрын
@@sripadsirikonda9213 there is probably lots of friction in the flywheel system, leading to it not having a lot of torque. The best bet is to check alignment of bearing flats, and making sure that all axles spin freely by hand. This will ensure that your 60:12 gear ratio will have enough torque to spin the flywheel.
@raymondzheng97852 жыл бұрын
Hello, I used this but my insert on the high strength spacer kept falling out
@606X2 жыл бұрын
try shoving more zip ties in for a tighter and more secure fit
@raymondzheng97852 жыл бұрын
@@606X my high strength spacer isn’t falling out, but the metal insert you use for wheels gears and wheels did. I’m not sure if this is a good idea but I started using the long metal insert that turns hs gears and sprockets into Ls
@raymondzheng97852 жыл бұрын
@@606X is the 3600 supposed to be pulling 12w💀💀💀💀
@mikhael16052 жыл бұрын
😍
@brianwei15352 жыл бұрын
Can it be used with a high strength axle?
@gumby50682 жыл бұрын
Probably just don’t smash me he insert in although idk don’t plan on trying it lmao
@unlacedecho31082 жыл бұрын
Is this type of insert legal still?
@jash65032 жыл бұрын
Do you guys plan to only use one motor for your flywheel since it's direct? Also since it's on a low strength axle does it work well without any problems? Nice video and thanks for sharing
@606X2 жыл бұрын
Yes we were planning on 1m flywheel
@averagefish71012 жыл бұрын
is the low strength shaft holding up with that? also, has 1 motor been sufficient?
@606X2 жыл бұрын
this is just a prototype. we haven't had time to develop a fully optimized flywheel unfortunately.
@ghostvraj52662 жыл бұрын
This helped my team big time
@difficult.to.underestimate2 жыл бұрын
Is this the same flywheel u used at MOA?
@606X2 жыл бұрын
Nah it’s different. MoA was 4”, this is 3”
@EclipseRoboticsVEXrobotics Жыл бұрын
I was wondering did you use bearing flats or a ball bearing. How would I do this with a high strength axle? I do want to use ball bearings, but the motor gets blocked by the ball bearing. Thanks Again! :)
@606X Жыл бұрын
we used bearing flats, not ball bearings. the difference is pretty negligible
@EclipseRoboticsVEXrobotics Жыл бұрын
@@606X Thanks we tried it with bearing flats and it works pretty well.
@cookiezbitz2 жыл бұрын
How thick are the zip ties used in this video?
@EXPRESS1TH2 жыл бұрын
What’s the spec on the high strength shaft spacer
@pocketc0mb2 жыл бұрын
So what exactly does this do? Does it just make the motor a free spinning motor?
@606X2 жыл бұрын
It lets the motor drive a flywheel at 3600 rpm without any external gearing
@srryitsjay68542 жыл бұрын
good work dude
@cucubob9535 Жыл бұрын
Do you need the rubber bands I forgot to add them-
@lizadoesstuff7877 Жыл бұрын
How is this programmed?
@rustyrussian83132 жыл бұрын
How do I drive the motor, if I input a number of 600+ rpm it just goes to full since it thinks its a blue cart.
@lemonjuice72422 жыл бұрын
Good work! Can you make a video about endgame expansion system?
@brandonlei36162 жыл бұрын
Yw for the spacer in motor cap idea :)
@cuongcjnguyen44052 жыл бұрын
is the green motor or the red motor going to work with this trick?
@606X2 жыл бұрын
the trick is that it doesn't use any color of cartridge, it uses the direct RPM of the motor without any cartridge gearing it down.
@mayankpandey1392 жыл бұрын
what are the benefits of a direct 3600 instead of gearing it up with blue carts other than saving space?
@mayankpandey1392 жыл бұрын
also are you still using the PTO on the flywheel now that you have it direct?
@gumby50682 жыл бұрын
Much more efficient friction and power wise, probably spins up faster although I can’t say for sure. 3600 rpm is very convenient because the next highest possible ratio (3600 rpm is somewhere inbetween 5:1 and 6:1) is not possible for the motor to reach very easily but 3600 rpm works. Still don’t know if it’s worth doing this to your poor motors but idk.
@TurtleMaster74742 жыл бұрын
You can flex on the non 3600 people
@360X_vrc2 жыл бұрын
There's no real point, how are you going to make a 3 motor flywheel if your motor goes directly into the flywheel. To win you must do 3 motor flywheel like 9364C. Honestly more might be better, 5 motor flywheel 2 motor drive is likely going to be the world's metta.
@huhrawz2 жыл бұрын
@@360X_vrc why? u only need 1-2 motors to get discs into the goal. Ur just wasting motors at that point
@reset69782 жыл бұрын
real nice
@hacksolot22 жыл бұрын
I designed a 3d printed jig to make it easier to clamp to the vice and drill nicely
@Chris920B2 жыл бұрын
How fast can you shoot 3 discs? We are having the issue of too much rpm drop after the second disc gets shot. Any ideas/tips?
@606X2 жыл бұрын
use another motor on the flywheel, or increase the weight of the flywheel. both will have less rpm drop
@turbodog992 жыл бұрын
use the hard rubber wheel, not the flex one
@iAbove2 жыл бұрын
Have you only attached one Flex wheel?
@matthewe40242 жыл бұрын
What a handsome man
@ktwin672 жыл бұрын
dope video bro 😎😎
@wally75732 жыл бұрын
What size spacer did you use in between the insert and the edge of the motor?
@606X2 жыл бұрын
0.500" length. 0.500" OD
@wally75732 жыл бұрын
Ty
@dannifaj2 жыл бұрын
Have you run into any problems with these yet? Considering making one for our flywheel
@606X2 жыл бұрын
they require a bit of tuning to minimize vibrations and wattage. Other than that, they're good!
@ballisticbonehead29162 жыл бұрын
@@606X how'd you tune it?
@reeton3155 Жыл бұрын
is it better with rubber bands instead of screws?
@RockyLeong11 ай бұрын
no, just way more easier and faster to swap cartridges
@coltonpayne37882 жыл бұрын
"the stiffer the better" mmm yes the words of a wise one indeed.
@shumper15042 жыл бұрын
we love vex hex !!
@Potatoes98652 жыл бұрын
Me and my team tried0 to recreate this design as per your video, but the spacer and axle keeps falling out of the adapter bit, making it very unstable.
@bertenheimer2 жыл бұрын
You use collars? Also your spacer might be too thin
@CyborgisCoolist5 ай бұрын
I’m quite late butttttt, 3000rpm drivetrain???
@jennygo54172 жыл бұрын
What’s the advantage of using this mech instead of the vex blue cartridge?
@rhettmaner3962 жыл бұрын
It saves gear space
@paulbunyan3drc2512 жыл бұрын
Also has less friction due to no Cartridge and no gear box
@HIVSuperSpreader Жыл бұрын
You dont need a whole gear
@seanyeow67262 жыл бұрын
Ben, how would you do make it with a HS axel? I worried the LS axel will bend on the fast spinning flywheel
@606X2 жыл бұрын
Don’t put in the square insert, just leave the spacer as it is
@joshkosh89892 жыл бұрын
@@606X Is there a reason why you are using a small axle over a high strength?
@606X2 жыл бұрын
@@joshkosh8989 because i was too lazy to drill holes in metal
@joshkosh89892 жыл бұрын
@@606X Valid
@brandonlei36162 жыл бұрын
Could also do this but with a HS collar, but id recommend this design cause its easier to do.
@229member2 жыл бұрын
What rpm does the motor get too when spinning your flywheel? (The stats of the motor on the brain screen)
@606X2 жыл бұрын
600 (6:1 cart setting). It varies between 585-600 but pretty much stays at 600.
@liemdonahue17152 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be honest it’s a very good idea but I tried on mine and my motor overheats in a minute, and adding 2 motors also overheats pretty quick
@ItzMattFPS Жыл бұрын
@@zacharyhelms4273 how/where did you get a 7:1 4200 rpm motor? the only ones that we can find are red (100rpm), green (200rpm), and blue (600rpm).
@adambukowski24722 жыл бұрын
This violates C. and D. You have to use the official VEX cartridges. E says you can modify the cap tho.
@606X2 жыл бұрын
Some gdc q&a responses suggested that this modification was legal. However, there is still some debate. Give this thread a read: www.vexforum.com/t/legality-of-having-a-motor-like-this/103243/48
@adambukowski24722 жыл бұрын
@@606X Thank you for showing me this.
@wyatt2goated2432 жыл бұрын
4:10 croc
@down-ward2 жыл бұрын
How did you get 3600 direct
@606X2 жыл бұрын
The video explains it??
@danlatre74672 жыл бұрын
But, it's legal to modify that motor?
@606X2 жыл бұрын
yes it is, checck robotevenets q&a
@danlatre74672 жыл бұрын
@@606X but its illegal to modify electronic parts, no?
@googleoficial94932 жыл бұрын
@@606X Men, red well thee rules, rule R20" , or yu'll be disqualified
@yimingzhu2 жыл бұрын
@@googleoficial9493 I think u need to read the rules bud, it's not modifying the electronic parts
@yimingzhu2 жыл бұрын
@@danlatre7467 It's not electronic parts
@brandonlei36162 жыл бұрын
Das crazy broski
@Mark-xt9wk2 жыл бұрын
Are you vexu?
@606X2 жыл бұрын
high school
@Mark-xt9wk2 жыл бұрын
@@606X oh! Really cool
@brianflores39662 жыл бұрын
Is this an allowed modification? Asking for a friend lol
@averagefish71012 жыл бұрын
@@brianflores3966 as far as I see only vex parts are being used, and your not interfering with the electronics, so ya
@lazer10362 жыл бұрын
Made a 3d printed version for the cad online challenge!
@SKGerY Жыл бұрын
Why is this legal?, there is a zip tie doing an attaching function.
@606X Жыл бұрын
this is legal though. there is nothing prohibiting the zip ties doing an attaching function
@SKGerY Жыл бұрын
@@606X in vex worlds they didnt let anyone use zipties for anything useful to the robot, only for organizing cables