The largest offshore wind farm in the world | 60 Minutes

[@themadjock1977]

What no one mentioned is that uk electricity price is tied to the price of natural gas so even with more renewables the price doesn’t automatically drop

[@gregorymalchuk272]

Nuclear doesn't require natural gas backup. 😊

[@GregHassler]

​@@gregorymalchuk272nuclear does require natural gas peaker plants, actually. Nuclear is good for base load only and is very difficult to turn up and down.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

@@GregHassler France uses their nuclear reactors in load-following mode negating the need for natural gas peaking. Nuclear power generating units can slew 80% of their output in 30 seconds, faster than just about any other source, and way faster than coal or gas.

[@krashd]

@@gregorymalchuk272Ramping down the output from a nuclear reactor has always been quick and easy (you can take them to 0% in the blink of an eye), it is ramping them up that takes many hours because removing control rods does not have the immediate effect that inserting them does, so technicians have to raise output slowly step by step.

[@Si-mc9bb]

Because natural gas is our biggest source of energy, that's why it's tied to it. It accounts for about 60% of the energy produced in the uk. Wind power is less than 2%

[@markreed9853]

She mentioned 14% wind? - I don't know where she got that number from but Imperial college, London said 32.4% of the UK's electricity came from Wind in the first quarter of 2023 which was more than Gas for the first time!

[@alexjn5460]

Also it was probably an annual figure - the first quarter is in winter so it'll very likely be more windy.

[@markreed9853]

@@alexjn5460 no, I did read it back and she did say off shore, but I just fell this is a disingenuous answer, as it made it sound like we don't have that much wind power here🤔

[@krashd]

@@markreed9853Wasn't she just referring to the Hornsea wind farms? 32.4% might be the total and 14% comes from Hornsea alone.

[@markreed9853]

@@krashd yes, I've already replied about that but I found it quite disingenuous just mentioning that.

[@Whoami691]

in november last year the winds were good and we managed to generate over 50% of our energy needs from wind alone.

[@jhartford58]

Bridi is a trooper, we need more people like her in the trades.

[@robertlee8805]

I AGREE. How does this industry find them and encourage towns and cities to encourage them for this?

[@robertlee8805]

Hartford? Which Hartford are you in?

[@malcolmrose3361]

​@@robertlee8805 "How does this industry find them and encourage towns and cities to encourage them for this?" Because the company offers structured training at a local college combined with on the job work experience - with a well paid job at the end of it - and there are, on average, 3 locals chasing every job in the town. The new energy systems are going to need appropriate skills in many different fields - from young ladies like Bridi to guys fitting heat pumps in peoples' houses. Trained specialists are going to be the bottleneck with many of these new technologies that are being rolled out - so governments (both local and national) need to identify them and start training in numbers.

[@bzdtemp]

Wind works. Today it has been extra windy here in Denmark, it meant our Wind turbines delivered something like 120% of the total electricity demand of our nation causing prices to even dipped below 0 (surplus means exporting and this not always possible). For the first six months of 2023 wind and solar stood for 68% of the electricity used here, so while good we still must improve. Financially wind makes sense in all sorts of ways, not only is it cheap it also means not having to import fossil fuel or being able to use that elsewhere if needed (or better yet, just leave the dirty stuff in the ground).

[@liberatumplox625]

Wind works, except when it doesn't.

[@bzdtemp]

@@liberatumplox625 And you're clever until you're not.

[@robertlee8805]

What timing on Orsted. We've got them setting up on our port in the NE USA Coast. Looking forward for the green electricity in our neck of the world. Wishing I was younger so I could work on those turbines.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

​@@liberatumplox625which is why you also need plenty of storage. Pumped hydro is very good. It can be done off river so it doesn't disrupt river ecosystems. It is wise to keep existing gas plants available for emergency backup too. If they get used a few days per year the emissions won't be too much.

[@danielwhyatt3278]

@@arrell1xyz I really love Octopus Energy. Up until recently, when I moved to a new house, I was using Octopus Energy in two different houses and they were a great provider. Not only for giving clear information about where they got their energy from, but also really good fast customer service, which I really appreciated.

[@jdotsalter910]

Oh hell yes. I was an aircraft mechanic and considered going into this in the US because the skills transfer but went into aerospace manufacturing, which took me around the world in austere locations for rocket launch. Now I sit behind a desk and look at this with envy. Miss the adventure when I was a younger man.

[@jenniferdurham2782]

It's hard for me to imagine that there will be enough young, able, and willing folks to scale this up as much as we need.

[@elewmompittseh]

Imagine, as an aircraft mechanic...that the blades of a turbine look exactly like a 747 on Doppler Radar, because they do, and it's a problem.

[@helloeveryone906]

What's the pay?

[@skipmagil]

I don’t see the question

[@dankspain]

Hey, there are now operations in the US on the east coast with helicopters included. Look into Heliservice, I am sure they will need mechanics!

[@EstOptimusNobis]

I had a customer in Grimsby, when I worked in the UK selling Canadian timber. Visited there 2 or 3 times in the late 80s. Fond memories of the people. 😃

[@Wacooon]

shame its gone downhill from the 80's

[@Halli50]

Times constantly change. While they bemoan the loss of the fisheries boom they enjoyed for decades, they omit the fact that it was based on exploiting the resources of another country - the boom was based on mindlessly exploiting the fishing grounds of Iceland. That eventually ended. I am glad Grimsby is finally enjoying a revival by using a resource closer to home. I sincerely wish them all the best.

[@archmad]

then exploit a different natural resource.

[@Djamonja]

@@archmad Is that supposed to make some sort of sense?

[@Halli50]

@@archmad, the wind offshore can only be considered VERY renewable, so I see no problem. Also, the area allocated is heir own resource that is not used for much else, and wind farms do not impede fishing.

[@yappofloyd1905]

Yes, rather ironic. Their boom period was based on the theft of Icelands natural resouces continuing the exploitation by the British Empire had done elsewhere for centuries.

[@markiliff]

@@archmad But you don't see Icelanders coming over here and nicking our wind, so it's not really a parallel

[@margieerwin5798]

Kudos to Ms. Salmon. Awesome work with those wind turbines.

[@ASkippingRock]

The electricity cost is set by the peaker plants and those are fossil fueled. This deserves a more in depth report. Also we should be doing this in the US.

[@xiaoka]

that's where utility scale batteries (mega packs, as deployed successfully in Australia and many other places now) and more importantly, VPPs (Virtual power plants, made up of thousands of home battery backups networked together) come in.

[@markiliff]

Also: When fossils drive the up the energy price, green suppliers rake in the money which draws in more green investment. Also: More green energy means less demand for fossils, which lowers their price.

[@mattl165]

I’m American and work on Hornsea wind farm. I’ll be back in the US soon to work on the offshore wind farms Orsted is currently building. Offshore wind will be big business in the US in coming years.

[@Chainyanker007]

@@xiaoka- And Tesla Energy is leading in this area and growing fast, they just announced another Megapack production line is going to be put in at the Lathrop, CA Megapack factory. When completed next year the factory will be producing about 10,000 Megapacks a yr.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

​@@xiaokaBatteries are not within an order of magnitude of a competitive price, and the price can't go down much further due to the commodity materials cost making up 70% of the cost.

[@gemelwalters2942]

You always hear about how "expensive" renewables is to build, as if every other energy transition in our history has been cheap. The transition to gas and oil was absolutely not cheap and neither was the infrastructure that followed. Building massive rigs, drilling, fracking, moving from rail to building sprawling highways and roads and the numerous costs associated with the climate impact. Every major transition came at a cost, the aim is to be more cost beneficial and less disruptive than the last and this is a good place to start. There is no one size fits all solution

[@DemPilafian]

It's like how the nuclear lobby loves to complain about the difficulty of recycling wind turbine blades, but they never ask themselves how many decommissioned nuclear power plants have ever been recycled? Answer: *Zero.* Wind turbine blades are inert so you can safely bury them just like rocks, and the support structure and nacelles at the top are mostly clean metal which gets recycled after decommissioning.

[@brentdavidson1]

ya these things are actually quite inexpensive vs other infrastructure. Cost is main reason nuclear is sort of dead in the water.

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

Nuclear fusion is the holy grail.

[@michelangelobuonarroti916]

You always hear about how "expensive" renewables are because that's the message that the deep-pocketed fossil fuel industries are pumping out. And if they can label renewables as "liberal", that makes the message all the more effective for them.

[@francismarion6400]

Saudi Arabia has .10 cent per gallon gas.

[@RussellFineArt]

What they didn't mention is how much higher their power bills would have gone without the wind turbines. Wind and solar power have pulled power prices down, or kept them from soaring, and have mostly eliminated black and brownouts we used to see all the time. Solar, wind + batteries, and EV's are the obvious and welcomed future.

[@ShawnKirch]

California would like to differ. We're a frontrunner on wind and solar and have consistent brownouts each summer and among the highest energy prices in the nation.

[@marsspacex6065]

Yep they would have to used much more expensive gas without wind.

[@theman3688]

I am an actual solar panel owner and to be honest it was a terrible decision. My monthly payments are higher for the solar panels then paying for electricity that I may be getting from nuclear power or natural gas(Dade county/Miami). I also have to pay for extra electricity because during the spring, summer, and fall I have the A/C going because it’s hot 95-98% of the year. In 15 years I was told I will have to replace them because they will not be as efficient as they are now which is also when my payments will be done which was a 15 year plan on the ones I have now. I pay $170 every month on average and is the lowest depending on usage but the price only goes up if I need extra power from the grid for solar panels for the month. I was paying anywhere from $80-$190 a month using FP&L’s power(Florida Power and Lighting)… my next project is looking up which politicians/how many are invested in these “green energy” companies because as of now I don’t see the cost savings or the environmental savings.

[@BillyBobThornt0n]

Using natural resources such as oil and coal would remain the cheapest forms . Solar or wind is extraordinarily more expensive to build, and maintain

[@resurgam75]

Aside from the fact that they're turbines NOT windmills. They draw power to start them and keep them running in cold weather when there's no wind. As for you saying that they're pulling prices down, that's conjecture. The price to build and operate them though isn't, and it's astronomical. As of yet they're not cost effective, as anyone who scratches beneath the PR B💩 knows.

[@philrabe910]

They're SO graceful, I can't imagine anyone saying they're ugly. I am from the water, Island born. I believe this is the future. Many companies are working on recycling the rotor blades after their 20 year lives.

[@buckeyenation1681]

Can’t believe people are against this

[@bobs6129]

Nobody's against it it's just not practical sure make up a few percent with it it's not going to change much you'd have to fill the whole ocean up with wind turbines and it still wouldn't meet the demand

[@8greateight8]

Wind 💨 is elite

[@newmandaniel5383]

We have a technology and already have a patent..we start building as soon as we get some contract ..wind and water is clean ​@@8greateight8

[@victoryfirst2878]

I hope the wind farms are installed in a much quicker way and more open minds to understand the big picture. Nice video too.

[@robalexander7348]

Spot on, this is crazy.. Down the track will our power bills be lower ?? 😕 Au

[@stevehayward1854]

The ludicrous thing about UK electricity is that it is tied to natural gas prices, so no matter how cheaply you make electricity the price will only go down when gas prices goes down

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

When we have enough wind power that we can do without gas for many days the price will drop a lot. It'll go back up on days with low wind, but the average will be lower.

[@udishomer5852]

Or if you change your cost structure to the average cost of generation.

[@chazzerbox131]

Yes but when we have enough reliable wind and nuclear power and gas is not the majority power supply in the Uk that will change that why France hasn’t had exorbitant bills like the rest of Europe during the increased cost of gas during the Ukraine War because there whole grid is nuclear

[@stevehayward1854]

@@chazzerbox131 Nuclear is OK but there is a long lead time for construction and they do have to shut down from time to time for maintenance and refuelling but even in the UK we have enough sunlight to make Solar viable with grid storage. So we dont need to go down the expensive Nuclear to the extent the French has. Nuclear has a high CAPEX which is long and investors don't see a ROI for a long time unlike Solar and Wind which are fast to install and cheap, with very low OPEX, so investors prefer investing on this route to faster/larger profits.

[@chazzerbox131]

@@stevehayward1854 true but we have investment in rolls Royce new Small Modular Reactors built in factory and only size of football field which will be much more cost efficient and lot less lead time less need for larger rectors we already have the top 4 largest wind farms so yeah hopefully gas will become more of exported for Uk also I do agree solar should be a mandatory for all new builds now and gov. needs to change its view for onshore wind maybe

[@stevenjones916]

For the last 12 months, wind has produced 30.2% of the UK"s electricity not the 14% she claimed @8:25

[@matthiasknutzen6061]

Of shore wind she says though

[@marsspacex6065]

Amazing engineering

[@wingman31k]

Comments are amazing... its clear few (of those making comments) may not have much prior knowledge of windpower, let alone in Great Britain and the North Sea. Norway & the Dutch have been pioneers in windpower for decades. And Great Britain... no one on this forum seems to realize that the waters around the British Isles is the domain of the British Monarchy, who not only lease the use of these waters for windpower, but also collect a fraction of the power generation and were the greatest advocates of this renewable energy. Despite what this news story says, the UK policy was set in stone by the British Monarchy and its influence long long ago, decades ago.

[@JT-nr2ss]

We can see the massive transformer facility being built from our window. Incredible engineering, amazing to see it on our front door!

[@falseprogress]

Another quasi-environmentalist gloating over industrialized oceans. Do you want as much aesthetic blight, red lights all night and bird hazards on land, too? Look at this 2050 U.S. projection: kleinmanenergy.upenn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Fig-2-JEsse-Event-2-1536x950.png

[@williamhoffman4337]

Ask Orsted why they are pulling out and why shares dropped 25% ??

[@markreed9853]

I used to live near Grimsby in the '90s and visit often, great town so good to see it getting some recognition again.

[@QuinnCabrera-x2u]

I find wind turbines elegant and beautiful. Is it just me?. Amazing engineering.

[@jzilla1234]

I find wind turbines elegant and beautiful. Is it just me?

[@HygienistDentist]

I do too!!

[@D0praise]

Nope, I love them!

[@daniell1869]

most people do. when they say "people find them unsightly" they're talking about a super minority of people and usually those people have ulterior motives anyway.

[@angiebuell6121]

Me too. Better than oil wells.

[@billmoyer3254]

Watch them eloquently catch fire and implode....KZbin has several videos.

[@MarletteGrant]

What is the cost of marine life? And how long have those wind farms been in place and working?

[@bthsr7113]

Windmills are much more photogenic than oil rigs. And they don't spill.

[@krashd]

You're just saying that because there's never been a big wind spill yet.

[@RobertSaxy]

That’s a beautiful site, also “once the fishing left “ is code for once we stopped taking advantage of an other country

[@sarabeth8050]

These are a fantastic solution to solidify our energy security. With most oil producers being our adversaries and supporters of terrorism, it's a crime to continue importing any oil at all. It's unpatriotic to support oil imports.

[@edwardroche2480]

Projects like this could save life on Earth. It is much better than doing nothing.

[@danielwhyatt3278]

Here here. The US reeeeally needs to catch up critically with us in Europe ASAP.

[@jacobsukovaty520]

It's literally the opposite it's destroying life like whales and dolphins but everyone's too delusional to see it

[@navalfa7291]

How do you know wind mills wont cause climate change by slowing down the wind?

[@shaunhall960]

Indeed!

[@vaels5682]

Bit of an exaggeration, but yes it is important to reduce our emissions this way

[@gibbonsdp]

UK electricity prices have risen because of the soaring cost of natural gas. Wind projects are by far the cheapest source of new generation.

[@douglasengle2704]

In the USA wind turbine farm costs have always increased electric rates.

[@simonpaterson7373]

Wind power has actually generated nearly 30% of the UK's electricity in 2023 🙂

[@brilobox2]

50% for significant periods.

[@bruceolsen9863]

Where does the OTHER 70% come from

[@geoffreystone4849]

At what cost to the environment? The Greenies never account for embedded energy in their culture religion of climate change. They are just part of CCP marketing.

[@wittohasago]

Complete rubbish... they may produce that much but ONLY during optimal times... when that wind isn't too strong or too weak... blind people everywhere it seems.

[@MidnightSouls]

@@wittohasago Complete facts... Grid data is available for all, but I doubt you're interested in such trivial things as reality. So carry on raging.

[@markreed9853]

It was not made clear that people's electricity prices had increased due to the higher price of Gas used to make electricity, due to the war in Ukraine and NOT due the cost of renewables like Wind - they would have known this and chose to leave it out!

[@Joe-ij6of]

Exactly, the wholesale price of a particular power producer and the retail price a local utility charges that buys from multiple producers are two different things.

[@DemPilafian]

I look forward to retirement so I can be like those two old guys sitting on the dock being grumpy and disagreeable. I'll spend my days complaining and moaning about everything that's new.

[@pkd6369]

We have a huge wind farm fully functional costs us a fortune $$$$ and we voted for it. called Parliament house

[@ziziroberts8041]

There are wind turbines all along the shores in Sri Lanka. They remind me of 'the tripods' in a sci-fi novel I read in junior high school circa 1967.

[@krashd]

War of the Worlds? Famous sci-fi novel about alien tripods invading Earth, there has been several movies based on the novel in the past few years.

[@Joe90V]

Price of wholesale electricity is linked to the global price of gas. While the trading speculators determine the price of gas, the price of electricity is not dependant on what's being built or how many. So your report is misleading.

[@ninsemor]

Hello from Denmark we had free power the last 2 days in the nordic countries because of the storm here. windmills works very good.

[@petejams7340]

You know what's uglier then a wind turbine off the coast? Burning forests and their smoke, devastation caused by flooding, tornadoes and hurricanes and all their impact on the economy, wildlife, homes, etc.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

I find wind turbines more aesthetically pleasing than oil tankers and coal freighters, and the oil slicks and smoke plumes they release. Never mind the pipelines and/or lines of trucks from the ports they deliver to.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

@@tommythompson2743 Better to use oil for making long-lasting stuff than simply burning it, wouldn’t you say that’s your argument? So we’re aligned using petroleum for energy is a bad use.

[@douglasengle2704]

What you're seeing in modern emission controlled plants is condensing water vapor not smoke. All greenhouse radiant energy from the earth is completely absorbed in earth's greenhouse effect within 20 meters of the surface. Non is left over to further react with greenhouse gases. There is no mechanism that would allow greenhouse gas behavior to cause global warming or cause floods, tornados or hurricanes. The back of the UN IPCC science report states it took its greenhouse gas samples at 20,000 meters altitude where it is common high school level knowledge there is no greenhouse radiant energy. This is typical misleading marketing practice to have a legal statement of data transparency to protect the perpetrators from fraud prosecution.

[@geirgaseidnes7809]

They look better than heart disease, lung cancer, and childhood asthma.

[@DRchilton]

Can't wait for the next project to start!!

[@shalipse]

Wind turbines are elegant and decorous. I'm proud of working as an engineer in the wind industry.

[@eisenkimin]

Hello, since youre in wind industry, can you explain to me how produced electricity get transmitted to shore? Is there a cable below the sea? I tried to read some articles but I couldnt find any information about cables. If cables go under water, do they stable the cables to the ground or do they bury them under the ground?

[@eisenkimin]

How do you maintain cables? I think they are corroded because they are in water. How do you overcome corrosion? (my questions might look stupid, I havent taken any engineering class yet. And sorry about my poor english, Im still trying to learn it) 😊

[@yaoawk3454]

They usually run all cables through a bigger pipe made/ coated in zinc or aluminum alloy@@eisenkimin

[@m.k662]

​​@@eisenkimin all wind turbines are connected to a substation located in the offshore windpark usually converting AC into DC in order to transport more energy to the shore where the DC usually being converted back to AC for the general power grit. The cables themself are laying with a anticorrosion material coverage on the ground of the sea so a maintenance is normally not necassary.

[@joestratton3981]

I live in the central United States and my electric has doubled also...as of 8-6-23.

[@markreed9853]

The current price here in the UK is 29p Kw (33c)plus a daily charge of 50p (57c)PLUS 5% tax.

[@stevehayward1854]

You could get some solar panels and make your own

[@supermikeb]

The United States has 4% of the population and has emitted over 1/2 of all the carbon dioxide that is causing Climate Change, as well as being the one country that has blocked a solution more than all other countries combined. The transition would have been so much easier, and without threatening our very existence without Mitch McConnell and all the science-denying Republicans saying for 40 years that it was a hoax.

[@krashd]

The US has the largest nuclear reactor fleet in the world with 92 reactors and currently around 60 of those are reaching the end of their life (all built in the 70's/80's with 40 or 50 year lifespans), with only around 8 new reactors being built thanks to slow local governments and the anti-nuclear brigade the US is walking straight into an energy-crisis of it's own.

[@stevehayward1854]

@@krashd Germany had a large Nuclear power capability and after Fukushima, they decided to get rid of them, despite the fact that Germany never suffers from Tsunamis and concentrate on gas from Russia. Well look how that turned out for them, they are now having to recommission Coal plants now

[@Travlinmo]

What isn't explained is the turbines, themselves, do not drive the cost of electricity. Gas still drives the cost of electricity and, therefore, the war in Ukraine. It's too bad that information isn't shared in a video like this as it leaves as mostly just a FUD video. The woman working the tower is a trooper. Looks like she has found the field for her!

[@rushja]

Agreed, media isn't interested in the complex story of energy transition is it? Just opinions of people who don't understand the moving parts. Good to see Grimsby in an article though

[@gervaised]

The omission of this is disingenuous at best. The cynic in me, or is it the realist is that there was a negative slant on the whole article.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

That's because Europe uses weird merit order pricing. But it only became a bad thing BECAUSE of the variability imposed by variable renewables.

[@rushja]

@travisolander4749 what's "entirely false"?

[@GrantDWilliams82]

He mentions how once political consensus was reached, then private investment finally happened. This is all just a euphemistic way of saying moral hazard was finally created. Offshore wind is not actually a good investment in an of itself - but when you know that the government will bail you out once that becomes obvious, then it is a good investment

[@cv990a4]

Electricity prices, like any other commodity, are set "on the margin" - whatever the most expensive form of energy that is required to make up the total needed drives the price. In the case of the UK, it still needs to burn natural gas to generate energy. Unfortunately, in the past year, natural gas prices were set by the Ukraine conflict. Therefore, energy prices in the UK were set by the high price of natural gas. Those wind farms were, therefore, fabulously profitable, because they were able to sell into an electricity market where the prices were being set by the price of natural-gas generated electricity, while their costs were a lot lower. But the CEO was exactly right - one part of the solution is more wind-generated energy, and more broadly, by eliminating/reducing reliance on natural gas as a means of generating electricity. Those old guys moaning about how electricity hasn't come down in price - that's the fault of still relying on natural gas, not the fault of the wind farms. They're simply flat ignorant.

[@theunknownunknowns256]

Yes exactly. It is wierd 60 minutes would leave out that key important fact. It it just poor journalistic capability or intentional bias.

[@udishomer5852]

Correct, I made a similar comment. Its astonishing how 60 Minutes didn't mention that (or chose to ignore it to spread FUD).

[@alantrex7340]

Odd way to price electricity. Normally have a contract between generator and distributer . 😅Usually before a project starts . In which case wind electricity would still be at contract rates.

[@cjk472]

@@alantrex7340 I think the way it works nowadays in the UK is that the government guarantees a price that makes a new project viable, the electricity gets sold at the market price, if that's below the guaranteed price the government makes up the shortfall, but if (as has mostly been the case in recent years) the electricity market price turns out to be above the guaranteed price, the wind companies have to send all excess profit to the government. Prospectively, when each new project is being agreed, the wind company gets a guarantee that they won't get a loss-making price if prices are lower than expected, in exchange for giving up any windfall (ha!) profits from prices being higher than expected.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

Denmark has the most expensive electricity on earth. Great success. 😂

[@rick-yo]

Uk’s doing something right! Need to replicate this this all over the world.

[@mattl165]

I’m American and I work on this wind farm.

[@krashd]

As a Brit I am sorry that you are being subjected to Grimsby. You could probably escape via the US embassy.

[@newmandaniel5383]

Wind is interesting, we have a great innovation Regen tower .. this is a clean energy

[@eclecticcyclist]

When you have enough renewables to displace gas peaker plants electricity prices will drop like a stone. The UK is getting there with over 60% of electricity coming from renewables for three hours on a weekday last week and the build of the new world's biggest wind farm, the Dogger Bank wind farm, started last week.

[@wingman31k]

That's NOT how current renewable energy technologies work. For the long foreseeable future, peaker plants using natural gas is the primary technology. If you don't understand why, find a Mechanical Engineer friend to explain how various power generation technologies work (assuming his degree was worth far more than the paper it's printed on).

[@krashd]

@@wingman31k That is _exactly_ how it works though, Denmark is the proof. If you generate more power than you can use at peak then peaker plants become obsolete. When Denmark has excess generation it either sells the excess or it disconnects wind turbines from the grid.

[@kinsmed]

Great story. Simple elegant visuals, a comprehensive view and plenty of crucial content. I'll give more 60 Minutes stories a look.

[@jordanwilliams8040]

"Simple elegant visuals" are you 12 lol how about facts and logical reasoning ? Not one wind farm anywhere around the world has generated even close to the amount of energy it required to build /upkeep them and they keep saying oh in 2035.. how do you think electric charging stations get power? It's not electric 😕

[@benwillvv]

The truth is, regardless of what you think of offshore wind, we NEED it to keep our global emissions in check. This is the price we pay for generations of unchecked pollution and carelessness.

[@dannymac6368]

Dude was great on Breaking Bad. Glad to see him move on to another career.

[@ophthojooeileyecirclehisha4917]

rhank you

[@BritishAnts]

Our energy prices here in the UK have gone up because the price is set from fosssil fuels and has always has! We only got 4% of gas from Russia but the prices are set on the global market! As soon as we un tether energy prices from gas we will all pay 80% less! Unfortunately our GOV have shares in oil and gas and go out of their way to frustrate green energy to their own ends! The UK supports green energy our robbing political party’s benefit from our dependance on oil they profit from! (All party’s past and present since the 90’s )

[@mimim8532]

He’s doing a good job😊

[@anubis1984a]

Living in a country where if its windy like today 7-8-2023 the power is free 24/7 at least for the next 48 hours you might even get payed to use power in some cases ofc the whole country only needs around 4.6-5 GW at the max(after normal work time this goes down ofc) and atm wind power is making 5.475 MW and we are exporting 1.383 MW to other countrys. So yes wind power does pay and yes you can see it on your power bills unless you got a fixed rate you pay for power?

[@udishomer5852]

Let me guess... Denmark

[@anderbeau]

I think they're cool looking and not ugly at all!

[@Pau_Pau9]

Wow, 1 rev = power for home for a day?? Lets build millions of them!!

[@brianguest7211]

Wow, big change since I was in Grimsby. Still have my mug from the Tap & Spile Pub.

[@BillAngelos]

I love how he says "we have a terrible energy cricis in Europe at the moment, and in Brittan at the moment. Tells me that the EU doesn't miss the brits at all.

[@krashd]

It's likely he has got used to answering "In the UK, and Europe" to humour brexit supporters because the folks who voted for Brexit genuinely think that the UK is not in Europe. Either they can't tell the difference between the continent and the EU or they are just stupid, voting to leave the biggest economic bloc on Earth makes me think the latter.

[@HaiLsKuNkY]

@@krashd the uk and eu have a trade deal, what is your complaint?

[@matthewkalb7269]

off the north shore of england, there's also been new contracts for oil drilling too

[@kevinwillis6707]

tories gonna tory...

[@Whoami691]

yep, because oil isn't just used for fuel, but you knew that didnt you?

[@davidleo9612]

This was so cool. These jobs are important and innovative.

[@Gurci28]

Offshore wind installations are set to reach 18.4GW in 2023, a record. 1:01[WFO Global]

[@Gurci28]

Offshore Wind Energy Market is projected to expand at more than 16% CAGR from 2023 to 2032. Rising investments towards clean energy infrastructure and favourable government policies will spur the industry expansion. 1:11[Global Market Insights]

[@Gurci28]

Wind and solar are the predominant sources of power generation in the Net Zero Emissions by 2050 Scenario, but annual wind capacity additions until 2030 need to increase significantly to be on track with the Net Zero pathway. 1:23 [IEA]

[@robertsmith5744]

No, use these windmills to pump sea water to turn an electrical generator on land. A Huge electrical generator safe from Hurricanes and more . . . . . think.

[@johnpatrick1588]

The US has 65,000 windmills producing enough power for 39 million homes.

[@krashd]

They also produce many billions of tons of flour unless you mean wind turbines? 😉

[@Whoami691]

Still less per capita than the UK and the UK is building another 2 even bigger than the one here.

[@MyScotty7]

I love my country,always pushing boundaries

[@gemelwalters2942]

If wind is only 14% I'm not sure what kind of reduction they would expect to see in bills at that point, especially not with oil prices still going up. Even if you aren't seeing a reduction, the one thing you can say with certainty is that your bill is going up because of gas and oil so why would you want to keep using it. We can't become shortsighted because we want instant gratification.

[@4t0m5k]

Exactly this. Whatever makes people feel good.

[@roberttietjen5012]

Two million homes wow!

[@HenrikRewes]

More off shore wind turbines actually drive the cost of electricity down. Denmark has the highest coverage of electricity produced by off shore wind farms ind the world. At the moment there are 112 % green energy (solar and wind) in the danish grid. 99% coming from wind. The spot cost pr. kwh is around 2 cents. This is how ever a windy day, which drives down the cost. On average in July 2023 the cost has been 8 cents to the kwh. before transmission cost and taxes. This is comparable to the cheapest US states like Texas and considerably below expensive states like New York.

[@rayshepherd2479]

If wind energy drives down the cost why is the cost of electricity so high in Denmark?

[@HenrikRewes]

​@@rayshepherd2479 Private households pay very high taxes on electricity in Denmark which put the kwh. prices at top 3 in Europe. If you look at the prices paid by businesses who does not pay the same taxes it's around the european average. The transmission cost is still pretty high at electricity demand is growing fast due to increased demand for transportation, heavy industry production and heating. The grid needs to be beefed up and this is paid for by transmission cost. If you look at the bare price of producing electricity the danish base price at hovering around the third lowest in the EU.

[@rayshepherd2479]

@HenrikRewes So transmission costs are high. Is the reason because wind is variable so you need something to back it up when the wind doesn't blow? Here in California it's probably why the cost of electricity is so high compared to other states. Price is not only high but power shutdowns are fairly frequent compared to the past.

[@ct1762]

so let me get this strait: turbines are privately funded as he admitted, but then says prices wont go down until we build more. that makes no sense... why would investors want to make their product LESS expensive? whats the incentive? if anything they will charge more, just like the 2 old fisherman said. that one guy's bill is DOUBLE. which actually makes sense since its privately funded.

[@MidnightSouls]

You don't have it "strait" [sic]... The price of electricity in the UK is pegged to the marginal cost of peaker production, which, at the moment - is gas. If you remove the need for gas powered production from the daily grid supply, then you untether the price from gas to the next most variable supply. Wind power is far cheaper per MWh than any current gas or fossil fuel generation, so in aggregate, wholesale electricity prices would fall dramatically, whether the original investors in wind power like it or not. They don't get a say in market pricing.

[@ct1762]

@@MidnightSouls thanks for correcting me on my misspelling. but my point still stands: it appears prices will fall if we rely on wind, but we all know how that goes. higher demand=higher prices and/or taxes. im willing to bet the prices creep up over the years. you could be correct i hope you are just saying here in the states its been a disaster for New England.

[@wobby1516]

I like many others support wind farms both at sea and on land. I believe the future has to be electric and that’s why in my small way I’m trying to do my bit with solar panels a battery and an EV. I’m not so keen on nuclear because of the risks however small they might be, unless of course the scientists come up with nuclear fission. At the moment we 🇬🇧 are leaders in wind technology I just hope it remains that way.

[@fastertove]

In what way are you leaders in wind technology?!

[@stevehayward1854]

@@fastertove The UK had the most offshore wind generation in the world but in the last 12 months China has over taken us. China has in the last year created more renewable energy generation, than the rest of the world combined

[@wobby1516]

@@fastertove I’ll rephrase that for your benefit we are the leaders in off shore wind.

[@fastertove]

@@wobby1516 Makes more sense :). I were a little puzzles by how GB already had more than Denmark's 50% energy from wind.

[@wingman31k]

Correct... Great Britain is the leader in offshore wind. Texas is the leader (by a factor of at least 3 times) in onshore wind in the US, likely the world.

[@grahamstevenson1740]

The sea state here is actually quite calm !

[@GarrettDevitt]

Electricity prices have doubled because of the war in Ukraine, not because of wind turbines.

[@DAVID-sd2lj]

How on earth do sea-life avoid bumping into them?

[@Someone-cd7yi]

The US has plenty of potential for off-shore wind power generation on the massive coasts on the pacific, atlantic and gulf of Mexico.

[@ronblack7870]

thank teddy kennedy for killing it every time on the east coast of massachusetts .

[@oldreprobate2748]

Use the waves in conjunction. Both wind and wave energy can be in one unit.

[@DemPilafian]

Wind farms are like city skylines. They can be beautiful even majestic. The old first generation of windmills with their gray lattice framework structures were truly hideous. However, the new sleek white tubular designs are elegant. Anyone who says modern wind turbines are ugly has an ugly hurtful soul.

[@stevehayward1854]

I'm with you on that, I charge my Tesla site that has wind turbine right next door and it's a great feeling knowing I'm topping my car up on clean electricity generated on these majestic beautiful machines. Theres something soothing about watching massive blades spin slowly around

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

I could see 6 turbines from my bedroom window. I enjoyed watching them going around.

[@juice2868]

I am from Grimsby!!

[@FigaroHey]

I LOVE wind turbines! I think they are so beautiful and elegant, and yet everyone I know says they are horrible, destroy the landscape, make too much noise for people living nearby... I don't live right under one - maybe they do make noise. But my heart always lifts a bit when I see them. Who knows? Maybe centuries ago people thought that windmills were a blot on the landscape and shouldn't be allowed.

[@elewmompittseh]

It's not about aesthetics, it's about safety. Offshore windfarms not only have barges anchored on the water year round with upwards of 40k gallons of transformer oil (not to burst your bubble, but they use oil to run)...they also create a personal and National security threat by creating Doppler Radar blind spots that inhibit search and rescue, as well as blind the DOD, Navy and Airforce to incoming threats.

[@brilobox2]

⁠@@elewmompittseh this is the most idiotic whining I’ve ever seen. Why don’t you bring up dead birds and infrasound while you’re at it.

[@krashd]

It's Grimsby up north.

[@pedalingprospector2007]

Too bad they can't build one just off the Florida coast, directly east of Motel Lardo.

[@mb-3faze]

When he's finally locked up, I hope his cell has a view of a wind turbine.

[@pedalingprospector2007]

@@mb-3faze ROFL

[@douglasengle2704]

11:42 Cost of residential electricity doubled. That is typical for grid electricity rates when they start paying for wind farm electric generators. In the USA electric rates have always gone up when onshore wind farm costs start to be included. Offshore wind farms are about double the cost per MW as onshore wind farms.

[@BillSias-op7xw]

I choked when that guy said electric bills would go down. If it's cheaper to produce the savings goes to profits of stockholders not to customers.

[@NicholasOrlick]

Price per kilowatt wind is a lot cheaper to produce….i have dominion (Virginia) mostly sourced by good ol coal and my electrical bill was over 400 dollars. I welcome the change. ALOT dumb Americans still don’t even understand that coal power plants aren’t running 24/7 and price per kilowatt.the most expensive energy source we have…Wind is actually a lot cheaper to run because there’s less maintenance involved.

[@samnater]

@@NicholasOrlickall you need to do to get energy from coal is find a rock and burn it. It’s both the cheapest and dirtiest fuel for a reason.

[@ProfessorTravis]

​@@samnaterYou also need to remove it from the ground and transport it--both of which are energy intensive and why the fracking boom undercut the price of coal in our economy, which is now being outdone by wind and more slowly, solar.

[@taiwanluthiers]

@@NicholasOrlick They should just convert all the coal plants into nuclear. It may not be the cheapest but it works 24/7 and the fuel is good for years.

[@markreed9853]

@@taiwanluthiers not that easy, quick and expensive - current UK nuclear being built is over $30B, over 10 years to build and electricity is at least 200% more than wind.

[@ChristineKing-i5c]

What most people don’t realise is they use SF6 gas in wind turbines which is worse than CO2. Thorium or molten salt reactors or geo thermal is the way to go

[@beardown6574]

Fascinating story. Didn't know of that wind farm so very interesting. Quite the job having to climb those certainly not your average day job lol

[@edwardroche2480]

Better than going down in a hole to dig coal, or breathing the fumes from the refinery, or skimming the oil off of our water. Solar wind farms are cleaner than just the energy they produce.

[@Sagittarius-A-Star]

If you really want to soil your nappies I recommend the report here on KZbin about guys in Spain who climb the blades for cleaning them.

[@summerperalta8572]

Remarkable what mankind can engineer 😮

[@adak2050]

Tesla already makes large scale energy storage called "Megapacks," that can store huge amounts of energy from a wind farm like this when the wind is not blowing. Plus the more Megapack facilities you have the fewer peaker plants you need, which seriously jack up the cost of electricity. The west coast of the US is perfect for tons of these wind farms because of the shallow ocean topography offshore. We have not even began to discover ways to harness the potential energy from the ocean through moving water and temp. differences..

[@Jakob_DK]

It is great, but currently all Megapacks are 5 GWh, one hour of eg Danish electricity consumption. We need much more storage.

[@sumantagogoi]

Not seeing any benefits? lol. At the end of the day each turbine is reducing some tons of CO2 that would have been added to the environment without it. Can't see Co2 can you?

[@baddoggie101]

Why would these people expect their electric bill to decline just because a green method is used to produce power?

[@johnpatrick1588]

In the meantime the UK imports ""Biofuel"" from the USA. The green biofuel is from the millions of trees the USA kills to make little wood pellets (7 million metric tons) to ship to the UK and EU for their power plants to burn. Yea killing trees that suck in CO2 and produce O2 so it can be burned is very good for the earth. Besides burning wood doesn't pollute or make CO2 plus all of those ships to move the stuff are green as well right?

[@stevehayward1854]

We do have one last coal generation plant that runs on biomass imported from the US but that wont last forever. It was planned for closure 2024 but thats been put back due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine

[@krashd]

@@stevehayward1854 That "one" just happens to be one of the biggest power plants on the planet though 🤣 And Drax's hunger can see it get through an entire ship of pellets in two days.

[@stevehayward1854]

@@krashd The Co2 created by shipping it here is enormous, I wonder if that is included in their estimates

[@leonardodtc4847]

To generate a megawatt it would take about 1,000 pounds of coal, 20 gallons of oil or 30 MINUTES of the average wind turbine spinning at 11 mph. Its clear that wind is effective.

[@nickh.isalldamgenocntrol4444]

You didn’t even talk about the bad sides of off shore wind farms

[@halimohellos8943]

There are lots of side effects!!! They are not taking about it.

[@theunknownunknowns256]

Not reporting that electricity prices in the UK are currently tied to gas prices. Poor journalism or intentional?

[@lrs7777]

You know what’s ugly? Smog, tornado destruction, burning forests, dried up coral reefs…..

[@mrwakeup1983]

Do you honestly believe tornadoes quit blowing, burning forests stop burning and coral reefs stop drying up if we weren’t here? Your lack of logic is mind boggling. Pre industrial revolution history says none of that stops. Btw….I 100% support wind power, but I am also not so naive to believe that it stops or even slows down the natural disasters or environmental ailments you cited(except smog of course).

[@hdcandela5697]

Save the WHALES from political corruption!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rui569]

It's a wind wind.

[@bradleywilkinson9805]

60 minutes, presented in 13 and a half minutes. Woo!

[@edwardroche2480]

The fisherman can't see the advantages of wind farms because there is no oil slick or air pollution. Oil has destroyed the fishing industry in more than one place. You know about the Exxon Valdez and the Deepwater Horizon platform in the gulf. Oil is a disaster. The easiest is not always the best. Laziness will destroy life on Earth.

[@mikebiagio4155]

A documentary with a clear bias against sustainable energy. Really? Asking some inane fishermen about electricity prices? How much WOULD it have gone up with out the wind farm?

[@error-mc5xw]

They purposely chose a female worker for this mini documentary

[@Brogil-King]

Wind enery is future

[@Randy-jz9ox]

KILLING THE WHALES

[@fastertove]

Please show the evidence.

[@EcoHouseThailand]

That’s the oil industry

[@donotwantahandle1111]

We are considering offshore wind generation in Australia. Any advice?

[@soemthng]

lmao just build nuclear

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

Offshore wind costs half what nuclear does.

[@johnmiller4282]

I believe the fish wars between UK and Iceland was pretty tense with trawlers ramming other trawlers