Why the Titanic sub imploded | 60 Minutes Australia

[@Stalicone]

I was a cave diver in the 1980s and 90’s. My colleagues used to call me the “deco queen” because I saw no need to try and exit the water as quickly as possible instead opting to build safety factors into my decompression schedules. We were doing deep cave dives over 300 feet deep. I was always the last to surface, to their jeers and derision. They would already have all their gear stowed and were changed into street clothes when I was still climbing out of the water. I was also the only one who never suffered from decompression sickness. Never let anyone pressure you into cutting safety corners.

[@jguenther3049]

Decompression "sickness" is like being strapped to a 3-D rack that you can't get off of. There's plenty of time to do it right. Your colleagues had proctocraniosis.

[@dvdortiz9031]

@@jguenther3049 they needed to see a proctologist for brain damage!!!

[@dvdortiz9031]

Air bubbles in the bloodstream by sudden decompression end up in stroke, aneurysm, or embolism !!!

[@franciscoserrano6339]

Just out curiosity, what type of places do you dive at 300 feet down?

[@latinouruguayo1]

Respect to you.

[@johnjake2000]

“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” - Charles Bukowski

[@marinagarza1803]

True! And just because you are rich does not mean you have intelligence or common sense.

[@eriklee1794]

Modest mouse made a song called "Bukowski".....good song

[@mrs.elentz2336]

Soooo true!! 💯

[@MrX-zz2vk]

​@@marinagarza1803And a lot of so-called "intellectuals" with a lot of impressive degrees have the least amount of common sense. The most important kind of intelligence.

[@Rob-ws2kh]

Love this. Have come to this conclusion myself over the years.

[@Wipsplash]

I like the reporter keeping it real when she said there must be something wrong with the sub because 5 people are dead.

[@barbarabarlow1535]

She was. The man had to swallow hard before he could answer😮

[@jadeh2699]

Right. Notice he looked away trying to think of something fast.

[@steelokey]

Fr

[@sema6008]

I love that she called him out and called a spade a spade.

[@tayananthony7325]

@@barbarabarlow1535 I noticed that too!

[@stalelemonproduction]

That opening statement is just so raw: "The reward for the titan passengers was supposed to be life changing. Instead, it was life ending"

[@amiralozse1781]

well, looking carefully at the expression "live changing" also includes the meaning "live ending". to change your plan can also mean to throw it over board

[@Rezisorss]

Some guys with Xbox controller diving in 12,500ft deep down the ocean, that must be one of the Darwin Award worth death..

[@eyesuckle]

@@Rezisorss Not really. The reasoning behind using a proven, mass-produced controller (especially with a couple of spares on board) seems sound. It's using carbon fibre--a material whose main drawback is well known to be catastrophic failure--that truly mystifies me. Its main advantage is its lightness. So, great choice for a bicycle, an airplane, even a car. But what is the advantage to making a submersible out of it? You have to add thousands of pounds of ballast to it to even get it to the bottom. Its lightness is actually a _disadvantage._

[@Abril-1234]

@@Rezisorssthe controller had nothing to do with the catastrophe….

[@juniorgod321]

It was Darwinism!

[@DavidGS66]

I have a mechanical engineering degree & Stockton Rush had an aerospacial engineering degree, so I know we both studied fatigue failure, so after watching this video, I'm still baffled how Stocton Rush wasn't doing testing to retire his sub before fatigue failure. It's gross negligence.

[@airadaimagery692]

Just because one can memorize information doesn’t make them smart.

[@porschamarie1446]

That’s exactly what it is!!!

[@hannesp3493]

@@lindseyyoung9149Unless he changed his comment. I don’t think it was directed at the original post, it was directed at Rush

[@SherLizz]

He was Arrogant!

[@rafaelsarmiento7716]

They’re talking about Stockton Rush not being smart, not the original commentor. And I agree. You can get great grades or be book smart but lack wisdom or practicality.

[@txbill2512]

Clear to me that Stockton Rush felt he was right and everyone else was wrong. Avoid those people at all costs.

[@sofakingmegamagaitgagsyerm909]

stuckt-on-stupid rush was a fool, good riddance. The 4 other souls he took with him are the tragedy

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

See also Elon Musk, Steve Huffman

[@gfisher7765]

An old analogy is the one about the proud mother watching her son in the marching band saying "Oh look. Everyone in the band is out of step except my Johnny".

[@LALMCGatorsfan]

@@thewhitefalcon8539 No Elon Musk is not like that. He hasn't lost anyone in space and he has put over 50 billion dollars into his space projects so NO HE'S NOT CHEAP!!

[@Shin_Akumi]

As a general rule u should question everything....but when an expert in their field (and u are not) u should probably listen to them. As a result an actual innocent was lost, the estranged son who didn't even want to be there. The only real victim. As the others were rich enough to know better, there is a reason super elites don't drive cheap plastic cars like progressives and their Tesla's, they drive thicc tanky suvs or limos that tend to be durable, equivalent to a submarine not submersible. They should have watched the movie the meg or hired James Cameron's designers for his submersible. But they chose to cut corners. This is the hubris of the elites. They didn't know they was being skimped on. Stockton had done to them what they probably did to others to become top dawgs to begin with. Step on others to get to the top, cut corners and sue into oblivion.

[@joanna7350]

LOL that one guy from Oceangate says James Cameron doesn't know what he's talking about yet Cameron has dived to the Titanic 33 times and even built his own submersible to go down into the Challenger Deep, which is the deepest point of the ocean on the planet. Did it SOLO and came back to tell the tale.

[@derekdreke4990]

Yep

[@joanna7350]

And Cameron was a truck driver from Canada. He wasn't born into this. Although people said he was a "genius" at fixing trucks in Canada. @@derekdreke4990

[@falcon3268]

Yeah I would trust James Cameron more than anyone that threw together a submersible just by parts from a hardware store.

[@Rashbumsmummy]

Why did James Cameron turn down an offer by pos Rush?? Because Cameron knew it was nothing but a coffin ! Cameron is no fool 🤷‍♀️

[@dannygjk]

Yes and the Challenger Deep makes the Titanic depth look like the shallow end of a pool.

[@Four_Words_And_Much_More]

As an engineer, clearly this submersible was a very high risk device. My experience and training said that there was not enough testing without human life at stake. Thus, it is no surprise that 5 died needlessly. That attitude that "this is the price of exploration" is utter nonsense to an engineering mind.

[@mrautismo420]

Not really needlessly though, they really showed everyone not to be a complete idiot 😭

[@clurkroberts2650]

Life is so unfair. Rush never experienced the magnitude of his foolish arrogance and totally preventable failure.

[@imanoone7307]

These guys (Rob and Karl) on the interview are heroes. They spoke out and one lost his job over it. I applaud them.

[@maggieswithenbank6709]

Yes! A toxic work environment when safety concerns are ignored and you’re fired! Bet those guys are thanking their lucky stars they weren’t aboard.

[@DarhaLB]

😳😳 are you serious???? Am I gonna see that in here? I’m only at 2:49, but that’s a damn shame if they lost their job over, trying to warn for peoples lives. Yup… the world has gone to hell in a handbasket.!!! 💯x💯

[@erikbarrett85]

They might not even be right tho. It may have imploded because they lost thrust and descended too fast.

[@xktcpx3889]

Rob: "you can't consent to something you don't really understand".

[@xktcpx3889]

It had death mentioned 8 times in the waiver...

[@TURBOINTEGRATYPER]

The guy was like most business owners. Cut corners where you can, break rules, save costs even if it jeopardize safety, and fire people who talk.

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

yeah, and he died finding out it did not add value to others and to society cause killing people in the deep is not adding value to society we have other ways of killing people like lethal injection and the electric chair, so we do not need an imploding submersible to kill people. and the silencing people is a toxic culture that's the airline industry in a nutshell.🤣🤣🤣

[@gaving9463]

“Most business owners” You mean people pushing the needle forward and creating this great app you’re typing on 🤡

[@TURBOINTEGRATYPER]

@@gaving9463 The app is junk. Lol

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

@@gaving9463 just keep trying just keep trying🤣

[@gaving9463]

@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue what are you trying to say? Say it!

[@casterman2]

Amelia your interview was spot on with Stockton’s friend. You kept circling back saying people are dead and just glared at him. Brilliant

[@BuserODL]

Hey but we apparently learned so much about the ocean so it's all good. What a joke that guy is

[@mattalley4330]

@@BuserODL I know right. Its almost as if the deaths of five people are acceptable in light of that! 😑

[@christopherjohns1566]

It's especially infuriating how he tries to equate paying passengers as seasoned explorers whose investments were for the benefit of ocean exploration. B.S. Stockholders are investors in a company's direction. They were customers of the company and the company's product failed and killed them.

[@k.s5889]

This friend is in denial, he knows he is also guilty, hoping some take every penny, he is also guilty.

[@LiveHappy321]

Notice how he says he would never associate reckless with Stockton or Oceangate “at least when I was there” - can’t have it both ways buddy

[@Philip-he1qc]

That poor 19 year old kid thought that he was just going out with his father to have a good time and never realizing he was at a death trap at 19 years old unbelievable in Heartbreaker

[@MissKatsukiBakugo]

I can’t get over the fact that he was just 19. Made me cry because he was so young. I was 29, now 30 when it happened. To this day, I can’t get over it along with the victims as well. (Except Stockton)

[@bigusdickus3068]

@@MissKatsukiBakugo you won't get over it if you never get over the fact that the pilot had no care at all for his passengers and the passengers themselves didn't listen to any of the warnings. I watched a video some time ago of a lady and her husband staring at a guy while he was going to shoot them and her only defense was "you're on camera!"... They both died. Darwin always reincarnates it seems :{

[@Scott-iu2jx]

Yes but even before he stepped into the sub that young man kept getting terrible premonition for weeks but kept being told it was just nerves.

[@paulkirkland1535]

​@@Scott-iu2jx; Too bad he didn't take those premonitions to heart. He'd still be alive. Stockton really messed up big time. So so sad 😭😭

[@Mysasser1]

He didn't want to go and his dad talked him into it.😢

[@hjk6606]

Watching the co-founder try to defend Stockton Rush and the sub is unbelievable. He knows he's being sued into oblivion, so trying to "spin it" is all he can do, but he really shouldn't.

[@sema6008]

He needs to be in prison.

[@garethmurtagh2814]

Yeah you can see the fear in his eyes. The families of the passengers will be able to afford serious lawyers, as a shareholder he’s going to be sued into oblivion

[@1farahnaz]

He's still so incredibly arrogant and smug too. Despicable human being.

[@alehax27]

He has to speak like that because if he says he knew of the potential problem, then the waivers are invalid due to known negligence

[@bong_thong]

No doubt the co founder’s bank account and Ocean Gate stock is going to implode faster than the Titan submersible ever did

[@Jon_Flys_RC]

I love Australians. They are as un-filtered as they come. She didn’t hold back asking anything.

[@lumberdog198]

Did she ask if they tested the human remains for covid 19? Why are they covering up the real cause of their deaths?

[@rebelscumspeedshop]

My good friend Maggie was from down under and yes,she pulled no punches. I love and miss her

[@amydonahue3290]

So true. I watched another interview with an Aussie who interviewed child molester/murderer Peter Scully and she pulled no punches and was at times pushing him to answer and was kind of demeaning. He got pissed and clammed up. It was refreshing to watch an interviewer not be afraid to challenge someone.

[@laurieradford9632]

Good to see our Aussies being recognised 😎 cheers guys,,

[@laurieradford9632]

I still remember the first time I heard how quickly this thing turned to steam in comparison to how quick we can blink or how quickly our brain acknowledges a thought or wtf,, an when U do the math it almost seems like a great way to go,, ya wouldn't even know it happened much less feel pain or anguish,, It would be a great euthanasia 🤷

[@letstalk9724]

The way he dodged and pivoted away from the question about the unnecessarily risk...10/10

[@justpassingthrough3410]

He has no real arguments but appeal to emotion.

[@dannymccormack2871]

He's being VERY defensive. The absolute blatant disregard to safety SCREAMS out. The dive should NEVER have gone ahead with such irresponsible management.

[@jonericksen3278]

60min Australia has the BEST, most thought out, hard hitting questions and answers delivered by top notch interviewers ever, hands down

[@fredalwatkins4506]

If she was confronting me about one of my inadequacies, my man parts would shrivel. 😳

[@brieb402]

I've yet to be disappointed by their reporting in these 60 minute coverages. They do a very good and respectful job indeed.

[@vietumy7024]

True

[@Andrew-wy7ji]

As a polar oceanographer, I am intrigued by the assertion of the man defending OceanGrate in this piece that the Titan was somehow breaking new ground in oceanography. I haven't once encountered anything in the scientific literature where the Titan was responsible for a new discovery. Perhaps I am reading the wrong journals. If you want to see how discoveries are made with a submersible, look no further than the work done by the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute.

[@jefo2405]

And appearantly according to Guillermo, human lives are a price worth paying for finding out above (non existant) things, listen to him carefully in his last statement... mind boggling!

[@innocentnemesis3519]

@@jefo2405 I know! “Stockton wasn’t reckless” ok sure dude

[@TeamCat1128]

Totally agree. He’s probably the type of guy who thinks his every trip to Whole Foods is an “innovative creation given to mankind”. So gross. Reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes’ babble-speak nonsense.

[@JOShaugh87]

Why go with tried and true spherical pressure chambers when we could try something totally new and unproven? This seems like a field where tried and true is gonna be much better than the bleeding edge of technology Forgive my lack of deep sea knowledge but theoretically couldn't Oceangate have just made a larger and thicker titanium sphere to fit a couple of passengers, instead of a carbon fiber tube? I understand it would've been substantially larger and more expensive but I think the target clientele would've paid more. All you've gotta tell a billionaire is that they could be in the record books or go where only a few have gone and they'll spend a fortune! Victor Vescovo spent almost $50M to be the first to the five deeps, wild lol I remember that Victor Vescovo used the largest pressure simulating machine (in the world) in Russia to certify his ship and it only barely fit. I think he went to Challenger Deep like 15 times without issue along with countless other dives before selling his CERTIFIED submersible. So theoretically there would be no way to test the larger sphere... oh wait maybe there is! Why not just lower it to 20% deeper than the deepest they ever plan to dive with no people in it. Why not do this ten times? You'd think if your gonna put your own @$$ in the thing maybe Stockton would've done a failure test before risking lives. Oversimplified by a non-diving, sub guy but it seems rational lol

[@DellAnderson]

Honestly think Silicon Valley Marketing Hype mentality became so ingrained in the company founders that they might even believe their own marketing materials. Lies have consequences.

[@calvancandy8384]

Well done to the father and son who didn’t trust the quality of the submersible and pulled out.

[@Madmun357]

Yeah, the kid who Stockton Rush called uninformed for voicing concern.

[@democracyoverdictatorship7483]

@@B3AR.WITH.M3A Las Vegas investor called Jay Bloom and his 20 year old son.

[@baileyIrishCream6984]

Yeah what made them pull out was the Sketchiness of doctor Stocketen When he flew to see them in march in a untested plane the father was thinkng this guy is fucked and has some kinda death wish we ant going in the sea in an Unsafety test sub witch is just common sense at least to me and probably most people in the world.

[@Mrz-sb1hw]

I wouldn't go in a submarine for all the gold in the world, lm a land lubber for life.

[@biancagrottolo]

I did not I've been a researcher of the RMS Titanic since high school and I can tell you this much they were already dead as soon as they enter in that submersible nightmare

[@StarflightProductions]

When Robert Morganson wrote the book "Futility" in 1898, it spoke of a great ship sinking in the north Atlantic with an insufficient number of lifeboats after striking an iceberg. The irony here is while this eerily corresponds with the events of the Titanic disaster, the name of the vessel in the book... was the "Titan"

[@shaundavenport621]

That's not only fascinating it's also spooky!😊

[@davidbozzi1451]

Good find. Maybe Morganson was clairvoyant

[@judyproffitt5708]

This info gives me chills!

[@TaTiyanaTV]

This information was revealed days after the implosion. It was also revealed that he named his Submersible the Titan because of this book and his fascination with the Titanic. Ironically he was also related to the Engineers of the Original Titanic. Stockton Rush got his Wish!

[@trawlins396]

​@@TaTiyanaTVhis wife was related as well

[@timbaland916]

It's hard to fathom a kid’s entire existence being annihilated in milliseconds despite him having better intuition than the multimillion-dollar engineers who created that Fisher-price playset of a sub. Denying the obvious safety issues associated with the titan is perhaps the biggest slap in the face to the families involved.

[@Doomsday34]

Preach

[@YraExalgaSkgs]

That's the only death that upsets me. It was a kid, forced by his father to go for the sake of his company in a dumb PR stunt that the kid knew would end in death. Good riddance to the rest and may the child rest in peace.

[@jimkon5767]

They signed waivers saying this was dangerous and alleviating them of liability. The rich families were stupid. The ones that committed suicide and the family members that let them go ...

[@n1ghtblur]

I believe it was said Rush had college interns involved in the engineering of the sub, specifically the electrical systems.

[@nejyz]

"The Fisher-price playset of a sub" got me. Thanks for the laugh! Just goes to show how a little charisma can convince people to do insane things...

[@c_rhynehardt]

"pride comes before the fall" and Stockton Rush fell. Unfortunately, he took 4 others with him. Tragic, totally avoidable accident.

[@prometheusunbound7628]

"Pride goeth before destruction. A haughty spirit goeth before a fall."

[@great-garden-watch]

I feel like there needs to be a new definition of “accident”. It doesn’t quite fit here.

[@EmileKleinhans]

Just like pride month before the fall.

[@PurgatoryPriest]

6:48 sums up Stockton Rush's attitude of wanting to be the first, the Nicola Tesla of submersible tech I suppose.

[@pinroshan020]

Twice the Pride, Double the Fall!

[@chinadoll534]

The look on his face after being told by the reporter “apparently something went wrong because 5 people are dead.” Was priceless 🤔

[@raven4k998]

things were fixed I have to question the person whom repaired the sub hull as they obviously didn't fix it correctly

[@-_-Code-_-]

@@raven4k998 Im not sure theres a good answer to this.. What exactly can be done to fix a carbon fiber/epoxy composite material outside of replacing it entirely ?

[@Lmzip2]

His comments did everything possible to deflect attention away from the ultimate outcome. She put it back to the glaring truth.

[@Negotea]

He is despicable.

[@S.H.A.D.O.999]

Yes!. He was SO full of it...

[@msmo2060]

I love 60 min Australia. Your stories are just so well produced. Your interviews are fair & not biased. Thankyou for putting these on you tube.

[@tomperkins5657]

AMEN! Well said!

[@JaxonSmithers]

Well it’s not a political propaganda machine like media outlets here in the US.

[@thenightporter]

​@JaxonSmithTrumpers 😂

[@drealboy_]

What I find most shocking is that Mr. Titantic himself, Paul Henri, so well versed in submersible diving , went down with that ticking time implosion.

[@StarwaterCWS]

It would be like Wilbur Wright telling Orville… I have designed a new aeroplane… it doesnt have wings, lets get in and push it over a cliff.

[@DAquingil]

Paul Henri had recently lost his wife, and stated that he was lonely, and a grieving widower. I believe that clouded his judgement, as he could lose himself in his work, spending time with colleagues. Pair that with manipulative, reckless Stockton Rush’s poor judgement, and you’ve got a deadly combination. Paul Henri was taken advantage of when he was at his most vulnerable.

[@madlenellul3430]

@@DAquingilNo if you review Paul’s last message where he describes death by implosion as instantaneous and consider how he grieved for his lost wife and loved visiting the Titanic then you see his reasoning. To Paul it was win win. If the submersible performed well he got to visit the Titanic. If it failed be joined his wife in eternity. If that was his vision it clouded his judgement regarding the lives of his companions. R.I.P. the crew of the Titan..

[@Here_is_Waldo]

That tells you what a salesman Rush was. People keep saying how foolish it was for people to go in the Titan, but Rush sold it to them by doing everything he could to say it was safe.

[@Nemesis-pe7mw]

@@madlenellul3430 I'd concur. Not sure if it clouded his judgement to the other passengers. Why should he be responsible for their idiocracy!

[@davidbrienlantry8760]

What fascinates me about this entire story is that since the accident, there have been numerous experts describing the problems with the submersible and not one expert who says on camera, "This is what Ocean Gate contributed to the further knowledge of the ocean." It was a mouse trap for billionaire tourists.

[@mcsmith732]

From what Karl Stanley was saying, Rush and Nargeolet kind of had a death wish. It's been said that OceanGate was run on an increasingly raggedy shoestring and P-H Nargeolet was still in mourning for his wife who died of cancer. Plus, McCallum was saying that being in an imploding submersible is "almost the perfect end" I hope that the people in the Titan didn't have a chance to get scared about dying before it happened. But Rush and Nargeolet may have welcomed it.

[@greenhat7618]

@@mcsmith732 why would rush want to die tho there is no reason, I think he’s just overconfident and dumb

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

Because OceanGate didn't contribute any new knowledge of the ocean. The experts knew the implosion was completely preventable from the get go. From what they already know about the ocean. That's the whole reason this tragedy is so important. Plenty of good people told this CEO dude it was impossible and he dismissed it out of pure arrogance. His dream was more important than his life and the lives of his customers.

[@the_kombinator]

Yeah I bet if some normies died paying a piddly 10K, no one would have cared.

[@ryanfraser167]

In theory oceangate were supposed to undertake ocean research, and was using the tourism expeditions to finance it, whether that would have ever materialised who knows.

[@francisphillips53]

Safety is NEVER a waste of cash.

[@stevenesbitt3528]

Odd thing is, why not charge a million a go? Or five million? The people wanting to go can pay it.

[@ray.shoesmith]

In reality nothing changes until something bad happens

[@pinkfreud62]

That one rich couple were suppose to take a trip a couple years ago, but their trip kept getting canceled & postponed even after they paid. They were suing Oceangate for a refund, but dropped the suit after the implosion. Guess for them, a blessing in disguise they never got to go.

[@chinadoll534]

Point made. I guess they figured also that the company wouldn’t have enough to pay them after the wrongful death sues

[@Animal81369]

"The whole volume of the submersible collapses in about 2 milliseconds. And it takes 25 milliseconds for the human brain to detect a threat. So, it's not so much that you die... it's that you cease to exist. It's almost the perfect end." 😳 That was heavy.

[@Savagequeen-c4s]

I thought the exact same thing! I thought this was a disgusting use of analytical linear thinking and incredibly rude to the loved ones involved. They had some clue they were facing a threat by at least 20 minutes before imploding. Death is universal but after saying nature transcends us then making a dramatic statement like that shows a lack of hubris in himself as well. It’s cruel and at best no one knows what truly exists. If we are indeed part of nature like suggested…these people could have met a very peaceful melding of oneness with everything.

[@staciasmith5162]

Well, apparently it seems like with multiple alarms going off and with Rush trying to quickly surface, they had an inkling that they were going to die.

[@siyuricastel5256]

@@Savagequeen-c4s exactly! those 20 minutes were HELL!!!!

[@michaelawill]

@@Savagequeen-c4s "Shows a lack of hubris" - I think lacking hubris is a good thing. Stockton certainly could have benefitted from lacking hubris.

[@69429boss]

They undoubtedly experienced seconds if not minutes of pure, unadulterated terror. Far from a perfect end.

[@BornAScout]

The idea that "you don't die, you just cease to exist" is terrifying. It's unimaginable, going from life to nothingness in the middle of blinking or a speaking one syllable.

[@JoawMebs-im6ix]

I think hitting an iceberg and suffering for two or three houes in cold water is worse

[@Already100]

Yep that’s how it goes🤷‍♂️

[@M_SC]

I find it comforting. Death normally seems violent and painful.

[@AFULLERROOFLIFE]

You all need some Jesus ❤✌🏽 and then death isn’t a big deal anymore.

[@ScottieD53]

I think that these people didn’t put the safety first after all the concerns that were raised. Money was a big factor here,but unfortunately it cost them there lives. Too many cutting the corners…..

[@majourpayne]

As a safety professional in the oil and gas industry, one statement really hit me. "It's great fun breaking world records, but they don't count if everyone doesn't make it back home" 😔😔😔

[@kennedyamevor9959]

That's serious statement in the field of safety

[@Sebilacraig]

Safety in oil & gas you wanker

[@Shoprestorationthe]

Big facts right there.

[@JoseGuillermoEstradaFranco]

​@@kennedyamevor9959😊😊

[@dvdortiz9031]

Record of Guinness updated today "the unsinkable titan" Is sunken again!!!

[@Alaryicjude]

That guy saying he was "risk adverse" when there are literal quotes of Stockton saying the rules are dumb... Denial is a Heck of a drug.

[@TheJeenyus24]

I’m confused, so what did OceanGate contribute to ocean exploration? They were going to a ship wreck that is well documented and as far as I know they were a service based company not a research based one.

[@8eight104]

some of their earlier subs were actually functional at reasonable depths, and have good service records.

[@8eight104]

these subs were used on research missions and if you see them, they look like conventional subs, not the cheap carbon fiber coffin he died in.

[@bunzeebear2973]

They were going down for a look see & that is all. They could not do anything but look. Fish do not exist at that depth. So not even treasure. They could have visited the Britannic as it is not as deep...and basically the same size ship...though it is in the Baltic Ocean.

[@ghstfvce]

⁠​​⁠fish most definitely do exist at that depth, and even deeper than that but it’s true either way-there were no gains to the expedition other than Rush and OceanGate gaining a couple extra bucks

[@Kool_kitty]

​​@@bunzeebear2973Yes, fish do exist even deeper than The Titanic. The Mariana Trench. Deepest part of the Ocean in the Pacific. Boy, they are very strange looking fish. Google it. They are the Ugliest looking fish I've ever seen. It's so crazy.

[@kattz753]

I will never forget the US Coast Guard officer at the press conference. A reporter asked if the bodies would be recovered. It looked like he was biting his tongue to not say, "What bodies?" I have no doubt that these poor people were vaporized. If they had to go, I'm so relieved that they didn't slowly suffocate. I was literally having nightmares about that.

[@sgordon8123]

I expect slow death from carbon dioxide levels rising is painless. Just get drowsy and fall asleep I think. Don't have nightmares.

[@Volundur9567]

Essentially human spaghetti. Sorry to be so graphic, but that's how it looked like with the Byford Dolphin and other similar explosive decompression fatalities.

[@wenterinfaer1656]

That doesn't make it any less shitty. Dying unseen and unheard, bodies forever swallowed up by dark depths is nightmarish enough

[@drats1279]

get a bigger teddy bear little boy.

[@Benz100]

@@drats1279relax brother, some sympathy wouldn’t hurt.

[@taitusituenuku4476]

He was not blinded by his passion. He was blinded by his greed for money. He did not care for the lives of his customers.

[@whiteRiceSupremacist]

I don't think so. He wouldn't be inside the sub if he was all about money.

[@lopezbiglos]

@@whiteRiceSupremacistmaybe? But he had to go, cuz he was the boss, wanted all the notoriety for it. It was all about money….. he made that clear when he said he wanted to innovate like Elon did with Tesla

[@calidara3236]

He was an idiot for using this sub but In all fairness they used most if not all of the funds from these trips by OceanGate Expeditions to fund the expeditions for OceanGate Foundation, which funded the expenses of scientists. it's not like he pocketed the money afaik, there was a real Nautical archaeology/Marine science part in OceanGate Inc.

[@coweatsman]

He was Captain Ahab in pursuit of Moby Dick, possessed of passion in a Greek tragedy.

[@nina2222]

I believe some sort of delusion...some would say he had enthusiastic eyes and gaze...I would say a little delusional going towards manic, he did not seem normal to me.

[@johnvesper989]

A tourist expedition to a famous shipwreck, is not oceanographic research.

[@vickypl5728]

So glad someone pointed this out. The interviewer should have challenged him on that.

[@AltClev37]

The guy who was a shareholder in OceanGate couldn’t let anyone say anything negative about Stockton Rush and the submersible. He wouldn’t even say Rush should take any responsibility for what happened. Pretty messed up. There is nothing new we learned from this event except that Rush clearly didn’t know what he was doing. Everyone knows the ocean is dangerous but it’s even more dangerous when a rich and egotistical person is in charge.

[@RichardE221]

He must have major money invested in OceanGate. Why else would anyone defend a killer like Rush?

[@yourdadhasadogfilter2505]

​@@RichardE221Notice he's still a shareholder even though he left years ago

[@darktheories1758]

lol that man said some straight stupidity. She said then he might not have died, and he said then the ocean may have never been explored? He died last month, not during the titanic. He was nothing to science, nor were they doing it for science. These men were trying to get rich, and they don't care who had to die in their attempts.

[@lolaali5158]

He should be ashamed of himself, honestly. What a weasel he is! How can he say Rush wasnt reckless? He killed 4 other people and contributed NOTHING to our knowledge of the ocean. Titan was an egomaniac's pet project, nothing more.

[@roystonboodoo7525]

He possibly succumbed to the present pervasive spirit of wordplay ie. just saying something makes it concrete (eg. "Trans" this & that, pronouns etc)

[@zackyc1841]

Funny how the cofounder deflected every question thrown at him

[@derekdreke4990]

Yeah they definitely got they money's worth out of him

[@danielbonner8309]

She kept on him though, made him look foolish

[@stellviahohenheim]

It's funny how arrogant rich people can be when their riches are usually because of luck or passed down to them. But rich or poor when someone have zero remorse when lives are lost because they're "contributing to humanity" Then they're truly a psychopath. What do you contribute? You're charging people to take them to a popular historical site. Is Uber contributing toward humanity?

[@CherylSimser]

That idiot was twisting himself into a pretzel trying to remove any responsibility. When he said that they would have been insulted being called passengers. No, no, they were explorers! Damn, what an a-hole!

[@AG-en5y]

He kept using vague marketing terms like " to discover" and to "push science" "to innovate" blah blah blah but the entire industry already knew it wouldn't work. He was cheap. If the price of carbon fiber and Titanium were the same price, he would've gone with Ti. It was for cost saving not to "innovate". I'm confused as to what they're discovering or innovating, what am I missing

[@peterjordaan9025]

The guy with the blue shirt that was interviewed started doubling down every time Amelia Adams reminded him that "something must have been wrong cause 5 people died" the guy showed no remorse and keep blurting out a load of Rubbish. This guy has NO CREDIBILITY

[@jadeh2699]

You are 100% correct! He is Guillermo Söhnlein, OceanGate co-founder, and as such, disregarded all the warnings about the Titan just as much as Rush did. He has blood on his hands too. No conscience and no sense.

[@jadeh2699]

@Rescuemom3 OceanGate co-founder, and just as guilty as Rush.

[@loosilu]

He's legally liable. He can't say a lot.

[@loosilu]

@@jadeh2699 He left Oceangate in 2013. Titan didn't exist.

[@staciasmith5162]

This is a guy that's actively looking to colonize Venus with human beings, sooner rather than later.

[@Sean-g4o]

Humans say…”Watch I’ll cut corners”. Nature says…”Here hold my beer.”

[@cw270693]

More like "here hold my water pressure".

[@KingStr0ng]

*God says

[@watamuppet24]

The look on his face in that thumbnail......I fkd up😅

[@Kjazz-jazz]

Arrogant jerk

[@catherineabsolom7289]

Nature is much wiser than people

[@blackhat1018]

“If [Stockton Rush] had done nothing, he and the crew would still be alive, but then humanity may still be stuck not knowing anything about the world’s oceans.” Oh yeah, we learned so much from Stockton Rush and the Titan about the world’s oceans. We learned that if you build a shoddy submarine and try to go deep diving you’ll die. Thanks, OceanGate! 👍

[@GateKeeper_Systems]

true, every video i've seen on the titan mention how suseptible carbon fiber is to the pressure at the 4000 meters

[@gatlank6080]

@@GateKeeper_Systems Carbon fiber is good to use for tensile streghts (that's why is used in aviation), not compression streghts.

[@Ferdrew-rp5ey]

😮😁💀

[@denisebrown6939]

Yeah that stuck in my throat...no regard for the lives lost, what a complete arrogant arse.😡

[@illuminape7632]

And the world now has more wreckage to go check out and learn about the dangers of poor safety protocols, poor design engineering, and the hubris of CEO's that decide they don't need to listen to the warnings of industry experts.

[@RogerSullivanNOLA]

Even the co-founder is just overflowing with hubris. "Yes, they could still be alive...but we could also be stuck not knowing anything about the world's oceans." I mean, wow. The submersibles that are capable of diving to the deepest part of the ocean without killing anyone have clearly learned nothing about the deep oceans that Titan didn't learn by taking tourists to a shipwreck.

[@galaxyglitterlatte4664]

Exactly. I'm sure those passengers wouldn't have traded their lives for the experience if they could go back in time! What an insulting, stupid thing to say. Well I shouldn't be surprised. The co-founder must be as dumb as Rush to have ever been involved in the creation of this tin can. It's not just the carbon fiber that was an issue, i just can't get over the fact that they used a crummy window that was never meant to be pushed as far down to the depths that it was. If that's not reckless I don't know what is...

[@jefo2405]

Totally agree, most listeners didn't even seem to pick up on that.

[@NashvilleTuneStream]

The cofounder won’t say a thing that puts him in financial jeopardy. He knows they’re going to get sued on a massive scale, so he doesn’t want to say a word about ignoring warnings and taking huge irresponsible risks. He’s going to support Rush and the company and just pretend that it was just a tragic accident that they didn’t expect. They were warned by experts multiple times.

[@monicagonzalez3490]

Agree! What a way to not put value on their lives.

[@hadifelani]

@@NashvilleTuneStream exactly

[@drfarrin]

Ms. Adams, you absolutely made the right comments and asked the right questions. Thank you for a fantastic interview!

[@mrx4022]

_"The arrogance of Man is thinking Nature is in our control, and not the other way around."_

[@mothercat6083]

I think the reason Rush went on every dive is because if something went wrong he rather be dead than deal with the aftermath of everything he poured his heart and soul into falling apart at the seams. I think that close friend was right about him having some sort of death wish

[@barba928]

He was running an ad for "submersible pilot" up until the end. He also tried to get his bookkeeper to become the "pilot". She was creeped out about that because she was an accountant and quit.

[@scootsmcgoots]

@@barba928 Seriously? Damn, I bet she got the chills when she saw the news about this for the first time.

[@erehistruth2356]

​@@barba928That's insane.

[@nunya3163]

Rush was the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect, and completely incapable of questioning his own judgment.

[@thomasriddle8877]

ive been thinking this exact thing.. dude had issues..

[@rickbrenner6079]

The co-founder of OceanGate (who since left the company ten years ago) is either in severe denial or is trying to justify his involvement in the company and the company’s appalling actions. It was infuriating to hear him answer the reporter’s questions, as if OceanGate and Stockton were completely innocent and the company’s prized vessel hadn’t just killed five human beings.

[@pattersonellen]

Yes. And the cofounder just said here Yes, sure people died. But it was worth it to know more about the ocean. 😮

[@772_Aviation]

I think he infuriated me the most. Total dumbass. Leave it up to the professionals

[@tisha954]

@@pattersonellen He's delusional.

[@ijfsfv7439]

​@@tisha954yes, most narcissist come across as psychotic by default. There's a definite lack of empathy going on with him and a complete disregard for the facts in the matter. (Cognitive dissonance)

[@eirikrdberg1161]

Great comment! He makes me so sick I almost threw up!

[@suzyquatro6470]

If Stockton Rush was ready to meet his death he shouldn't ask others to do so !!! It's irresponsible !!!

[@bghrfc2411]

He wanted to go down in history. He probably felt not seen and thought if can kill myself hey related to the titanic, while also taking out billionaires. I will forever be talked about and be as famous as the titanic itself.

[@seltonk5136]

No children were on board. All of these people were dipshits who sought this out.

[@0898007]

Stockton Crush

[@SpaceX30]

​@@weiluo8268no one was forced to do shit

[@phantomprobz9823]

​@@SpaceX30he lied to them. He's a con man

[@muscleymanarts]

This level of journalism is superb. Thank you.

[@Alyanna_0123]

The man said it perfectly, its time for us to say goodbye on what is left below with the titanic. We already know it as it’s part of our history maybe we can all let them rest below and just remember them instead of risking more lives. Sometimes we just need to stop and know that there’s an end for everything.

[@ahtomogger9969]

that is indeed what he said

[@michaelporter7629]

That actually hit really hard with me. We’ve already dived down there a number of times before, we’ve done the research on what happened that night, we have countless pictures, movies, documentaries and other media, we brought up a few items here and there, we even brought up one of the rusted whistles from the ship, restored it, and blew that whistle again for the first time in 100 years. We pretty much have everything we’re ever gonna get out of that ship. It’s time to leave it alone.

[@auralplex]

@@michaelporter7629 But I wanna see doodoo covered wreckage in person…

[@mikeprevost8650]

We need to remember that it's a grave site for 1500 people, and not a theme park.

[@fairlyvague82]

THREE DOZEN experts put in writing the extreme concerns they had with the safety of Titan, yet nobody was able to stop or at least temporarily halt the dives?? That’s criminal.

[@mikederucki]

If you wanted to drive your car into the ocean tomorrow in attempts to use it as a submarine I could tell you it’s a bad idea, but nothing I can do to stop you

[@hewhohasnoidentity4377]

No laws were broken. He intentionally designed it to work around the law. It would have required updating the international treaty on the rules in international waters to stop it. In other words, it is impossible to stop someone from being this stupid.

[@sanjaa.2396]

And journalists were advertising Rush for free, he was giving interviews, there was reportage I watched couple of months ago about it, even tourists gave interviews. That contributed to those people feeling that it is safe to do this with him.

[@TheOneSeanPool]

Dozens of experts tell you that smoking is bad but you're still allowed to smoke and get a license to sell cigarettes to others

[@Oystein87]

Criminal? No, actually not. But insanely stupid and retarded? Yes, absolutely🤦‍♂️ Morons should never do stuff like this. Look where it got them🙄🤦‍♂️

[@jantyszka1036]

Been fascinated by Titanic since 1969, but would never want to go down. Not the restricted space, but the knowledge there was all that water pressing in on me.

[@richardjones4662]

I'm claustrophobic, I'm pretty sure I'd be unable to get into that thing at all.

[@elisabethandersen1102]

​@@richardjones4662I don't even like MRI machines lol screw a submarine!

[@larrymosher5045]

I just prefer,not to visit an underwater cemetery.

[@PainyTime]

@@moonstar21868pretty sure they’re dead now… 😢

[@JET7C0]

Yes, the paradoxical idiom "I wouldn't be caught dead doing that" absolutely holds for going down there in the Titan, or even a more scientifically sound and safety-checked submersible. Due to the chaotic deep sea currents down there, a journalist did a segment talking about the time he went down there in a much safer research submersible, and the currents still pushed them into one of the Titanic's propellers, where they were _stuck for almost an hour._ It was only the skill of their pilot that saved them, by somehow finally getting them unwedged. They also did have communication as opposed to the Titan, because they were using an actual, few km long physical line to the mission's ship on the surface. Even in the safest, most highly-regarded and quadruple safety checked submersible, the simple knowledge of literally millions of tons of water on top of me, and a two plus hour trip just to get back to the surface is more than enough for me to never do something like this. You literally couldn't pay me to do it, whereas these people had to pay a few year's worth of the average household income in the US for the "privilege" of going down in the implosion timebomb that was the Titan.

[@srikits]

She is a Great journalist👍🏻 love the “it has to be something wrong with it, 5 people have died!” 👏🏻

[@megatuanis]

The question she asked was, "Isn't taking paying passengers on an unclassed sub, about which there'd been several safety warnings, down to the Titanic, an unnecessary risk?" And he doesn't answer the question! He answers that two of the crew members "would cringe if they were being labeled as tourists or passengers; they considered themselves explorers." A) No, they would not cringe. B) That's not what she asked! C) What about the two non-explorers? The actual tourists? He and Rush are cut from the same cloth.

[@leechowning2712]

He cannot call them passengers because even the Bahamas have rules about passenger safety. But yeah, I forsee him having a really painful few years.

[@marinagarza1803]

Like Rush he is in complete denial.

[@suhail3920]

He's got one eye on the civil litigation that's on the way. So he can't even go near directly addressing a question involving recklessness or risk given that he's (more or less) the one holding the OceanGate bag. For me the question is: why did he do this interview at all? Does he honestly believe that he can change the public and expert perception of this fiasco?

[@phillawrence5148]

He's basically scum

[@jaydenp4975]

Narcissistic brats with lots of money as what they are

[@Lee23547]

The ending was best said, “we’re taken enough from her to know her history, it’s time we let her rest” 👏🏾👏🏾

[@CatalinaFOIA]

Yes; absolutely 💯 I agree. Let the Titanic rest from here on out.

[@jacksonbennett84]

Those who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 9:36 you can't consent to that which you don't understand. Having gone through covid I find that statement incredibly misunderstood.

[@c.s.7266]

He was wreckless to say the least and he lured the passengers into it. R.I.P. to the passengers and condolences to their loved ones

[@tombryan1]

They were billionaires but not too bright

[@tombryan1]

If only you cared about the 75k Ukraine people killed as much as these volunteer numbskulls

[@joeyjoe7930]

You can say that he lured them into it, but they were willing passengers that knew there was a great risk of death.

[@MasterhpIke]

@@tombryan1 That's not how it works buddy.

[@rontiemens2553]

He was reckless, but certainly not wreckless.

[@petergriffiinbirdistheword]

His lack of accountability is horrific

[@michallysek6996]

The only good thing about this tragedy is that it brought to light this very interesting field - submersibles and everything around it. Two weeks ago, I had no idea who Karl Stanley or Victor Vescovo were. And I knew James Cameron was a director, but I had no idea he had his own submersible. RIP to all the victims.

[@purselmer5931]

I do not want to be mean or anything, but I think a very large percentage of people are well aware of James Cameron and his obsession w/submersibles and going down to the bottom of the ocean. Him doing that has literally been everywhere on social media and in the news for years now.

[@michallysek6996]

@@purselmer5931 what is the main purpose of this comment? Thank you for your explanation.

[@thorsrensen3162]

Its horrible to see this back clever guy slandering Rush Stocktons good name.

[@SerratedEmerald]

Saw this exact comment on another video

[@jaymesnin]

You can tell Karl Stanley knows his stuff. Just like he said in another interview there's no way they didn't know on the Princeton that Titan had imploded. From sound acoustics. Communication. Sonar. To that much pressure being released from the implosion. You'd of felt it on the ship. If not heard it. Literally an underwater explosion. So all that crap about them running out of oxygen. A search. Probably all in denial on the ship. Didn't want to believe their CEO is dead. The company is over with. His wife is a widow. The legal responsibilities. Investigations. What a nightmare scenario he put so many people through. I honestly feel sorry for the people on the ship. An none have spoken yet Probably because of legal contracts

[@robertupchurch8088]

Probably the best summary of this tragic event I’ve seen.

[@Joedirt3349]

@buckwheat nutride much?

[@laurenamy6745]

@@buckwheat3869 they are only stating facts but we already know his response to the emails so..?

[@irene_f.]

@@buckwheat3869 Mr Rush villified himself through his own words, actions and lack of them.

[@CheetahSnowLeopard]

She has a great “you need to give me a better answer than that“ face.

[@PoopyPants-1955]

And he has that “Shit, I just KNEW you’d ask me that” expression on his face. lol

[@rosselliot8971]

@@PoopyPants-1955 And it's obvious the whole interview was created and edited to produce something sensational and akin to a Reality TV feel. Pointless.

[@karenjohnson1888]

Complete negligence of the man who ignored the safety advisors. I feel for the unknowingly passengers.

[@willow1141]

He might’ve went out with the biggest bang but he took people with him that trusted him who weren’t ready to go out with the biggest bang in history

[@HopelessSinner]

Most definitely NOT the biggest bang in history....check the history books #hiroshima

[@markdog9104]

Hey, they signed a waiver. If I'm paying 250K for a ride 2 miles down into the ocean, I'm going to ask questions and I want to be in a "certified" vehicle LOL. How dumb can you be as a billionaire to say, "yeah this carbon fiber, camper fan/light built sub is great, top of the line!"

[@nina2222]

Exactly 👏👏

[@JohnnyAngel8]

He might have GONE out ....

[@seltonk5136]

His first quote about titantic being one of three words known all over the planter, the hallmark of a complete bullshitter. Unverifiable pablum from a glorified huckster

[@akemi137]

The Titan tourists weren't crew... Crew members are paid to operate a ship.. and the tourists bought a ticket to visit the Titanic.. RIP 🙁

[@709stef]

Well technically they're not the crew however if you watch the video posted by DALLMYD called "Titanic Sub Tourism Expedition" he was one of the tourists and they still asked them to help with fixing something on the sub so it seems they treated the tourists as part of the crew, only instead of getting paidthey were paying them while working for free

[@bettywith2girls]

Exactly! Legally, I heard they couldn't take paying customers in anything not inspected and "classed", so they went around that by making customers working crew "mission specialists" and the $$$ required for a ticket is instead a suggested "donation" to the company. I also heard that crew members would have had fewer legal protections than customers would have. They weren't scientific explorers helping humanity to learn more about the ocean, like this guy said, in the least.

[@Argentangelozoom2003]

Show the documentary I don't wanna see. A stupid woman nodding her head.

[@milliegirl7514]

Typical Rush's friend tries to explain away the obvious to possibly save the company from imploding as well Save their investment

[@drxym]

They were classed as "researchers" to skirt regulations about taking tourists. They were probably given some lame busy work to justify to themselves and others that they were researchers / explorers when of course they were just fee paying guests.

[@Peter-gi3re]

I find it incredible that Rush managed to convince so many “intelligent” people to go down in that sub. They were totally blinded by the idea of seeing the Titanic and left their intelligence at the door. Before going down the first obvious question I would want answered is ……. Has the entire construction of this sub been tested at the depths of the titanic and has it been tested to the point of failure. Answer: NO I am sure in hindsight the cost of testing the stupid thing pales in comparison to the lawsuits etc now.

[@dk237]

@apatheticnoncombatant7750well said!

[@ace8184]

its not the jpb nor ability of passenger to vet these systems. to become billionaire you need to take massive risks. its in their DNA.

[@maddisong6846]

@apatheticnoncombatant7750even if this is true i have a very hard time feeling bad for a man who thinks like this and is “adventurous” enough to pressure his teenage son into it. it wasn’t until i realized these men had let a CHILD on board that submersible with them that i realized they really did not have common sense… as an adult you can make whatever risky choices you want but leave young people out of it!

[@Peter-gi3re]

@apatheticnoncombatant7750 Titan only made 3 successful trips to Titanic. It had several aborted tries due to various problems. Once again the Carbon fiber hull was untested. Rush was basically “testing” it by using it and including passengers. That would be like Boeing testing a new material for a jet while carrying passengers. It was possible for Rush to have the sub tested for compression and he chose not to. He thought his system of sensors would provide warning of any cracks starting in hull. That was “stupid” …… at the depth and pressure they were going to experience, there is NO warning. Any flaw at all and it’s game over in a fraction of a second. There is nothing brilliant about what he did. It was like trying to go over Niagara Falls in an oil drum. Was it possible to do ….. yes, but highly unlikely without failure.

[@KMcKenzie9]

Someone shared a quote in another comment and I figured I’d share it here: “The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence.” Charles Bukowski

[@quantumphaser]

They went to see history and instead became part of history

[@tonyrandallphillips6641]

If he was around in 1912, Stockton Rush would've been the first to say Titanic was unsinkable

[@mikekeeler6362]

I think he would have said it's syncable but let's take the risk

[@MarleneG-pe5ij]

Well… he was in “sync” with the same hubris mentality. Money talks.

[@hans-joachimbierwirth4727]

Nah, he would have built a carbon fiber copy for half the price and then have drowned in it a few miles away from the harbor.

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

You know the eerily thing is submarine ran into the same problems as the titanic😅 they rushed the ships process and used cheap materials also any boat would’ve crashed with an ice burg tho

[@phylliswurm9473]

He was always right in his mind. Period. No advice or suggestion could enter the stubbornness within him.

[@ffrr4886]

we will never be able to have most of the mankind discovery without some crazy /bright mind like that

[@guriausa]

I'm just here to say I'm so glad we can finally comment on 60 minutes Australia videos after years of silently watching 😂.

[@bahba9247]

Yes!

[@BunnyinDubai]

Exactly!!

[@dbapto6994]

Finally

[@VaunXox]

Bunghole farts.

[@amochswohntet99]

I think the Navy and Coast guard held the information because they needed time to calculate the risk of potentially conveying the sonar capabilities of their vessels that heard the implosion before everyone else.

[@MrPhillipsTheChangeAgent]

Exactly.

[@Werrf1]

Listening to Söhnlein just parroting all the same platitudes that we've seen Rush trot out, even after they've demonstrably _killed four people,_ is infuriating.

[@Pringle1001]

He knows that if the families decide to sue it will cost him money .That is the only reason he is protecting his buddy disgusting 🤢

[@ranc1977]

@@Pringle1001 If? For all suffering narcissistic abuse and femicide from arrogant Rush stockings in this world, for the love of god - sue them, sue criminals whenever you can! They had money to pay the ticket. They have money to sue thier butts off this planet.

[@megatuanis]

I agree, it is infuriating. I had hoped that he would have a conscience but he doesn't. He couldn't even answer a direct question. He's a stock holder who is deluded if he thinks he's going to save his investment with these platitudes.

[@Aurasmae]

Incredibly irritating. And trying to paint it with the brush of science and exploration - it's none of that, the Titanic has been visited numerous times, there's nothing there to learn. The only thing to know was what those materials would do under pressure - and that's what Rush was warned and ignored.

[@richardbell7678]

Especially when suggesting that Stockton Rush was risk averse is an outright lie

[@HarmlessComment]

I feel the saddest for the father and son, I think the rest of the passengers understood the risk better than that man and his son.

[@Finnatese]

I think a lot of people feel the same. The others were explorers, but the businessman seemed to not understand the risks, otherwise he surely wouldn't have brought his son down. He just wanted to give his son an incredible and unique experience

[@the_kombinator]

"We're rich, what can possibly happen?" AKA "Nothing bad EVA happens to the Kennedys!" (Corvette randomly flips)

[@13nlsc]

He paid 500k?!? He had plenty of time to think about that. To put his son at risk? That was not a trip to Disney.

[@highndry18]

@@13nlsc It was his son's decision because the trip coincided with Father's Day and he wanted to bond with his father. He was terrified about going but he did it anyway for his father. Tragic.

[@julijakeit]

no they didn't. not only they did not understand, Stockton blatantly lied how 'safe' Titan was to gain their confidence. Even Henry Paul Nargeolet was no engineer but simply experienced in seeing Titanic multiple times. Nargeolet was also warned that Stockton is luring customers by using him as leverage but apparently Nargeolet brushed it off as he was old and just wanted to see Titanic. There are interviews and letters proving what I said.

[@seanlancaster594]

I can completely understand the desire to see the Titanic and just to go down to that kind of depth. What I can not understand is how this obvious negligence and design flaws made it to paid tickets.

[@small_joys2022]

More people refused to go down than the ones that agreed. Thats why rush had to wine and dine customers to convince them to go.

[@danielduncan6806]

I wonder if the Titanic Police Department is even equipped for something like this!! We need to increase funding to the TPD right away. Oh wait, it is in international waters and NOBODY can claim it without bringing it up to the surface. I could go to the Titanic site and mine it if I wanted to, and there is nothing anyone would be able to do about it. Yeah, I would get my own fleet together and just sink every ship, with all hands, around the area if I wanted to. And the only thing anyone could do is send a larger force to clear us or kill us out. I could hundreds of tons of steel beams, sharpen them to a point, and then drop them on the Titanic and there is nothing could do about it. Nothing. What does all of this mean? All this means, there is no enforcement in the world that can stop anyone from doing anything in that area. If a man wants to make submersible vehicles out of cardboard, and fool people into getting on it and going for a ride; a man can do that. Now, this does mean that if you have the balls, you can take a gun and put an end to someone like that with the same impunity they operate, *_or operated_* , with.

[@dvdortiz9031]

Why would you desire togo down 4 kilometers to see the titanic?

[@seanlancaster594]

@@dvdortiz9031 it would be an experience! Not for 250k in the titan sub tho

[@NotLikeUs17]

It’s not regulated. That’s why it was so easy.

[@justsumguy2u]

One could argue that the experience was definitely life-changing

[@alexanderchon9058]

Rush is a fitting last name because this man rushed EVERYTHING, from the design to the equipment used to pilot it.

[@larrymosher5045]

His last name,should be Snafu or Clusterf***.

[@JET7C0]

His unchecked hubris was seriously second to none - many people said he was actually a very intelligent engineer and he did get a BS from Princeton, no less (though it wasn't a Masters to be fair), but him being the definition of arrogant is what killed him and his passengers on board that must have mistaken his brash confidence and salesmanship with safety. His obsession with being some kind of maverick trailblazer, rather than just doing his due diligence, and maybe just going with already well tested materials like titanium, etc., is what killed him and the rest. What's been crazy to me about this whole incident is learning about the extreme physics of what occurs during an implosion at that depth: the immense pressure and sheer weight of millions of tons of water, suddenly compressing what amounts of an incredibly tiny bubble of gas, will lead to a near instantaneous explosion/implosion, much like a piston in a vehicle engine from the compression - to the point that in a few milliseconds, all that air became momentarily _hotter than the surface of the sun_ in a bubble that oscillated many times per second, due to the conflicting forces of the super-heated gas wanting to expand versus the millions of tons of water pressing inward. Absolutely wild and one can only hope they didn't know what was coming, since they literally weren't capable of registering any pain or even awareness of the actual implosion that killed them all.

[@victoriadavis1307]

The ironyyyyy

[@North_West1]

The press conference of the ROV team leader was heart wrenching. You could feel his raw emotions. The logistical and technical Multinational (gov & private sector) team work to confirm debris was incredible. An ROV capable of reaching titanic depth made it their in a couple days. Already on site on surface we’re other vessels to support. Another vessel with 2 ROVs (only certified to 3000 meters) was onslaught surface with lift line ready. They had sent the 2 ROV down to ensure titan wasn’t in water column. They sacrificed (lost) one of the ROVs pushing the it’s limit to try to find titan. It took 3 C-17 Air Force plane to get deeper ROV to Canadian port. The rescue effort should be made into documentary.

[@shae9364]

I had no idea. You're so right.

[@ChelseaSaidTV]

Oh yes it should I remember they had two icebreaker ships or some big ships that they said they were hauling ass try to get there and they could not go no faster or get there any sooner than six hours it was like one was somewhere or somewhere else, but they both were coming to help them. I've never seen such a coordinated effort. I don't even think they did all that for 911.

[@jonny-b4954]

It's crazy it was even a rescue effort. There was no possibility of survival in that situation. Maybe 0.01%. It's so ridiculous how the media took the event and ran with it for 5 days, sensationalizing everything. It's a shame.

[@nejyz]

This story is so wild and tragic. Rush is a perfect example of what we don't want in our engineering fields. Rushed, shotty work with little testing and little thought. In my eyes, this man is a criminal and what he had coming was inevitable. Warned multiple times by true experts and did not opt into testing that would have shown the flaws of his work. Sad that others had to die with him but I feel empathy for them just wanting to see the titanic. It's really incredible what a little bit of charisma can convince people to do. I saw one look at that fucking thing and my first thought was: "No way in hell I'd ever get in that thing." There's a reason actual deep sea submersibles are spheres and not cylinders... There's also a reason they're usually made of materials like titanium, not carbon fiber.

[@taurian551]

Yes a greedy egoistic criminal. Good he is gone but took others with him.

[@mandyharewood886]

Tragic? For whom?

[@nejyz]

@@mandyharewood886 The 5 people who died...

[@mandyharewood886]

@@nejyz Can't say that I care.

[@gellee8511]

I agree with your comments but it's hard for me to stomp on a person's grave after he's already suffered (pardon the pun) a crushing blow.

[@BruceChamberlin-y4r]

Nobody is talking about the fact the Titian was sinking much faster than normal. The Skylark even asked, “Do you need to adjust velocity?” The Titian was unquestionably heavy that day. They even had to drop the frame, but the ascent was still to slow to surface any time soon. It was doomed at this point, but why was it heavy? They dragged it for almost three days on a small raft exposed to rough seas and plenty of salt water. Could the carbon fiber hull absorbed many pounds of water? They didn’t weigh the sub to be sure it was on weight? The Titian was far too heavy that day, and nobody is talking about why!

[@sherriianiro747]

What blew me away the most about Stockton Rush was that I read he got away with avoiding safety measures because as long as he claimed the people were going for research and were not tourists he did not have to implement the safety requirements for tourist travel, which would have cost him dearly. Most people would not need their arm twisted to not ride in that thing!

[@ellemarr7234]

Being labeled crew vs tourist completely changes the legal liability. It was even more insidious.

[@katiehenry7]

I read the same thing. He labeled them mission specialist. He's a criminal.

[@zoeye7095]

On top of that he did everything in international waters. There's a whole lot less people can do out there if you are doing something that dangerous.

[@markhill9275]

whose safety requirements, which country's safety requirements. Definitely NOT the USoNA, they can be bought off.

[@luvit7567]

"You don't die, you just cease to exist" wow, powerful words.

[@pixietherabbit5176]

At least he is hoping. Otherwise, there just might be some kind of judgment, where each person must give an account. I wonder what kind of luck the dead CEO is having right now.

[@Mlogan11]

@@pixietherabbit5176 He's not talking about metaphysics or religion. He's referring to the physical body basically being vaporized before the mind/body could actually register it's death. Think of getting hit with a full phaser shot in Star Trek where one is just taken out in a flash with no pain or physical suffering of any kind.

[@Mrbfgray]

I deff want a comedian "chief engineer" to hang my life on.

[@luvit7567]

@Mlogan11 Yep, I knew what he meant, but the way he phrased it made you realise how the end actually went.

[@mamazalama]

...and they, these words, couldn't be more flat out WRONG. No one, not one of us EVER "cease(s) (sic) to exist". Ask any scientist, we only change form. We go on...and on, and on...and on...and on...♾. And yes, so does our consciousness, allowing us to remember and to learn our lessons....ps: I realize this is besides the point, as no one WANTS to even come close to proving that point.

[@debbiecreter2005]

This was an excellent report! So very thorough and concise in all the information shared. Thank you to everyone who participated in this honest discussion!

[@how2pick4name]

Except for the imploding bit. Clearly you are just as stupid as they are if you believe it imploded.

[@Mikem-mq2hh]

about 10 minutes of research would have told me theres no way i'm getting on this thing. The hubris displayed by crew, and passengers was astounding. Drag.

[@mach2223]

"Reckless is not something I would ever associate with Stockton" bruh that man literally boasted how many rules he breaks in his dinky little sub that over 30 people told him would kill him and it did and this man says he was risk averse and never took necessary risks. Like, are we talking about the same thing even? He literally fired anyone who brought up safety concerns. This guy is obviously just trying to save his skin. Which he won't because the company is about to sink under gross negligence lawsuits.

[@Indarow]

Thank you for being direct and clear without mincing words. Giamo’s interview was truly disturbing. Dude’s just as delusional as Stockton was.

[@megumei044]

Well he has to be lol. As a shareholder in the company his financial investment hinges on Ocean Gates continued operation and the company as a whole increasing in value. No idea how much he sunk into the company but given his level of delusion I want to say he's probably a 25%+ shareholder.

[@nunya3163]

The guy has little choice, as Rush left him holding the bag. Anything that he admits, will be used against him in court. Frankly, he should not be doing interviews.

[@Napalm_Candy]

@@nunya3163 I was honestly shocked he did an interview, especially without a lawyer present! That just goes to show the stupidity of the founders.

[@thomasherbert5790]

100% correct

[@Mitchcraft.]

Do they talk about firing the professional team and replacing them with people who had no idea about the job in the name of diversity? I want to know before I watch if they truly represent what happened or gloss over that part.

[@jeffjohnson3620]

60 minutes documentaries are the BEST! Keeps you on the edge of your seat but not so long that it gets boring.

[@knowledgeishalfthebattle]

Clearly 60 Min Aus lacks ethics in their reporting! Just a slanderous smear campaign. If you knew anything about submersibles, you would know 60 Mins Aus told a few lies during their episode. They did not show the actual way the sub was towed and launched that could have accounted for the implosion. They also lied stating that carbon fiber is not strong enough to withstand the pressures of the ocean. The actual controversy is how the carbon fiber hull was formed. If any other reason than the carbon fiber ACCOUNTS FOR THE IMPLOSION, 60 Min Aus will possibly be facing massive lawsuits for slander and false statements!

[@kennethstone4590]

Titanic down there like Leave me alone or die

[@DanielWatson-o4p]

Nahh, the ocean decides that not titanic, titanic was built by humans, the ocean was Built by god.

[@trysis260]

I love how his (Rush) denial lives on in his business associate. You gotta love that dedication.

[@staciasmith5162]

They are a special breed. He swears up and down that Venus will be colonized by humans sooner rather than later.

[@thepantherchannel2988]

Seems like he is trying everything he can to cover his own ass as much as possible, so the least amount of questions lead back to him as possible.

[@williammorris584]

Build him another one and wave bon voyage.

[@dannygjk]

Yes the guy in this interview is biased because he has financial incentive.

[@michaeldundee8300]

Denial

[@sabrinalennox2004]

I'd love to hear OceanGates co founder explain what further knowledge of the ocean did Stockton Rush uncover? Unless hes talking about what materials NOT to use when building a submersible

[@RichardE221]

Yeah, he has no idea what he's talking about. Everyone already knew the material would fail. He just wanted to find out for himself and kill 4 tourists in the process.

[@m.h.6499]

💯 🎯

[@STONESGAM]

This was just very wealthy people indulging in a hobby and fascination. This level of risk was not taken for some noble cause or to advance humanity in some way. They just thought it was cool basically.

[@saharkhalili5303]

Exactly!! 🤣

[@brianjensen5661]

There was no advancement of science or knowledge gained. That line was a canned bullshit line from a shareholder. What this actually is is called extreme tourism. They did it for the adrenaline rush a brush with death brings but died in the effort. Waste of lives and money.

[@evolvvartstudio]

Fantastic interview by Amelia Adams. She didn’t back down. Well done.

[@LadyHeathersLair]

Except that Guillermo guy didn’t answer her question properly. When asked about four passengers with SR now dead, he side skirted the question by saying they wouldn’t call themselves passengers (or tourists). I wish she pressed him harder.

[@triggeredcat120]

@@LadyHeathersLairGuillermo was doing what every businessman would do. She made it a point with her comment: “Well something must have been wrong because 5 people are dead.”

[@VDiamond11]

As an American I love the way reporters from other countries don't pull punches

[@rickbrenner6079]

Is the reporter’s name Amelia Adams or Hannah Bowers? I thought I read her name as Hannah Bowers at the start of the video. Then again, I typically don’t watch “60 Minutes Australia”.

[@nirachien2274]

​@@rickbrenner6079Amelia is the reporter, Hannah is the producer.

[@EggyPlayz98]

I think it’s time we leave the titanic alone. That thing is a death wish, it’s down there for a reason.

[@thenightporter]

Agree!

[@win1776]

I couldn’t help but notice that everybody in this video said Ocean Gate was careless, except for the stockholder who could lose money when Ocean Gate’s sued, who also tried to say, the paying passengers were actually employees of ocean gate. That comment seemed to be prepared by ocean gate’s attorney.

[@mejie6792]

The Ocean Gate's atty must be sued as well for malpractice.

[@mikeprevost8650]

Liability waivers don't shield a defendant from gross negligence, at least in the US. The lawyers for the deceased passengers' relatives will be able to have a long parade of experts attesting to Rush's arrogant negligence, and his estate and Ocean Gate will have that bozo as their witness, lol. I think I remember reading about how rush bragged about buying the carbon fiber at a discount because it was beyond its sell-by date, and how he bought some components at Camper's World.

[@reverseflashes]

I'd recommend everyone to read _The Titan Submersible Was “an Accident Waiting to Happen_ by *Ben Taud* . It is mindblowing. Exchanges from people like Rob McCallum (he has huge parts in the article), Patrick Lahey and David Lochridge (the pilot who was fired for raising concerns over the submersible) are mentioned in the article and it walks the readers to how, as the title said, the Titan was an accident waiting to happen. I had goosebumps reading it. It is a long read but it's worth it.

[@tonamg53]

That article is way overly dramatised, full of nonsense extremely misleading and contains many misinformation. For example at the beginning it said Lochridge clained that “OceanGate leadership insisted that no hull testing was necessary” But later on the article claimed that “But sea trials were a disaster” and “It appears that the company spent this period testing materials, and that it built several iterations of the carbon-fibre hull.” How can you claimed that there were “no testing done” and then said “sea trials was a disaster” at the same time? Sea trials was a disaster means they were testing it. Also in the article it said Lochridge claimed that real monitoring system was “acoustic sensors” but totally left out the fact that it also contained “strain gauges” which measure the different in stress force being applied on the hull… so it is more than just acoustic sensor. The article also made no mentioned that it Lochridge who sued the company for wrongful termination but made it sounded like Lochridge was the one being harassed legally by the company… I wouldn’t trust anything this guy named Lochridge said… also if what he said was absolutely true then yes, he had the moral obligation to report this to the authority. The fact that he didn’t do that and only come out talking about it after the accident and then continued to make contradicting statements while leaving out several details that would not benefit his own agenda… This guy *David Lochridge* is nothing more than an *idiot with a massive dick on his head*

[@nicksothep8472]

After watching Rush's interviews where he explains both his phylosophy and the engeneering behind his death trap, and after watching the construction of the hull, my only question was "how?" How was that thing even allowed in the water, and even a bigger how? How was it even allowed to take passengers, because as I said in a comment earlier, if Rush took the risk himself, alone, and managed to successfully make the dive 4 times to such depths before going out in a blaze of glory, almost literally, I would have considered him a fkn legend, a dare devil and above all a man with huge cojones, where instead he was a cheap c#nt that cut on safety to save the bank, and not only ended up murdering 3 people, but attempted to do so three times already before (or was it two? And does it even matter really?). I honestly feel for his widow that has now years of lawsuits ahead of her, and will have to pay for her late husband's incompetence and negligence. I'm not sure she deserves it.

[@tonamg53]

@@nicksothep8472 The hull constructed using pre-preg carbon fibre is FAR from cheap. Also he had several hull constructed, not just one as the first hull didn’t passed the test. Not sure how many but at least 2 for sure. Go and search how much pre-preg carbon fibre cost… its like you calling someone a cheap c**t for picking you up with a Mercedes S class…

[@forzatuner3916]

​@@tonamg53Wrong....he bought the CF from Boeing at a DISCOUNT because it was passed its shelf-life for use in aviation. Furthermore, if true professionals had built this sub, it would have been magnitudes more money. The CF was used not only because it was much cheaper, but also because it was much lighter. To build a certified or "classed" sub that could safely carry FIVE people that deep, would have made the sub alot heavier, and buyoncy would have been a problem. Stockton wasn't a BILLIONAIRE either, his net worth was only 25 million. Its well documented that he built this thing on a shoestring budget, and hired the cheapest help he could get.

[@tonamg53]

@@forzatuner3916 Below is directly from an article written in 2017 about building the hull of Cyclops2 (renamed Titan) by Spencer Composite. The article appears in CompositesWorld website… Also only an absolute idiot would think that using carbon fibre is cheap… Guess which cars are build using carbon fibre…. Lamborghini, Koenigsegg, Zonda, Bugatti, Formula 1… See any cheap cars there? Idiot… “The carbon fiber is standard-modulus Grafil 37-800 (30K tow), supplied by Mitsubishi Chemical Carbon Fiber & Composites Inc. (Irvine, CA, US). Prepreg was supplied by Irvine-based Newport Composites, now part of Mitsubishi Chemical Carbon Fiber & Composites Inc. The wet-winding epoxy is Epon Resin 682 from Hexion Inc. (Columbus, OH, US). The curing agent is Lindride LS-81K frLindau Chemicals Inc.cals (Columbia, SC, US)”

[@gilliesiut2332]

I remember seeing the cbc news report on this and tearing it apart in the comment section. When I realized it had less safety procedures and much lower maintenance and manufacturing standards than aircraft (especially composite aircraft) made me realize it didn’t stand a chance at the bottom of the ocean

[@andreseh87]

Maybe you also learned about yourself that you shouldn’t just jump to conclusions.

[@weldonyoung1013]

@gilliesiut2332 which new story do you think was better the CBC News or Australia 60 Minutes? Ones half a world away from the other.

[@davidcalhoun1731]

The ends were glued, GLUED together!!!!!!!!!

[@stevenesbitt3528]

Thats the word that would have sent me running

[@nonnyj81]

Also the play station remote ​@@stevenesbitt3528

[@ianprocian2844]

Could have been worse...Could have used Gaffer tape.

[@dominikczubinski3782]

​@@ianprocian2844 Use flex tape.

[@AP-ui7oi]

I don't understand the need to go see a shipwreck.

[@Kalynn1]

I agree! Especially when you can just see it online and on documentaries. Such a sad and senseless situation.

[@karenharris722]

People seem to have an insatiable appetite for it!

[@lateshiachilds3640]

Me either, I'm sure there are other wreckage like a car, plane, and etc deep in the ocean no one is going to see the others.

[@watchmeimflying]

The fact that SR himself went down in the submersible sent the message to his clients that this was a safe submarine. SR knew this was dangerous which makes him both suicidal and homicidal.

[@julianwalls1077]

I love to see the financial records of the company. I believe they may have have been problems and Oceangate needed money...and Sh needed to go down with sub knowing the risks !😀

[@pattersonellen]

Yes. And the cofounder just said here Yes, sure people died. But it was worth it to know more about the ocean. 😮

[@marilynsgirl01]

I just don’t know. I keep trying to figure him out and I think perhaps his narcissism was so strong that it wouldn’t allow him to believe that anything could ever happen to challenge his superiority. I struggle to understand. I struggle to see if a narcissist ( and I am very intimately acquainted with one…my mother) can really fathom the idea of their own mortality and fragility.

[@moniqueabundance]

​@@marilynsgirl01 well said. Delusional

[@jasonv.9015]

His dead clients ignored the warnings too. I’m not a submarine guy and I knew that sub was ridiculously unsafe, so they had to have known there was 36 signatures from professionals who said it was a trap

[@Mark-yd1qs]

Wow. An actual Journalist is still around. Hail Australia for saving at least one!! Great documentary, thanks

[@LadyHeathersLair]

Except that Guillermo guy didn’t answer her question properly. When asked about four passengers with SR now dead, he side skirted the question by saying they wouldn’t call themselves passengers (or tourists). I wish she pressed him harder.

[@user-sb6qe4lz6k]

The Cofounder interviewed would make a great politician. He lies great and refuses to accept responsibility 😂

[@danielbonner8309]

This reporter is tuff as nails. Nice job.

[@SciHeartJourney]

I felt incredibly frustrated when that person claimed that wealthy individuals who descended in the Titan submersible considered themselves contributors to science rather than mere tourists. As an engineer, I deeply appreciate science and occasionally fantasize about being a scientist. However, I recognize the distinction between engineering and scientific pursuits. The individuals in question, who were essentially "paying passengers," lacked the specific agenda and purpose that genuine scientists bring to their work. It's disheartening that they didn't even bother to bring any writing materials to document their experiences, although I assume they had their cameras with them. In reality, they were deceived into believing they were "Mission Specialists" when, in truth, they were simply tourists. If we were to imagine ourselves as crew members on the USS Enterprise, I sincerely hope I wouldn't end up as a ill-fated "red shirt"! 🤦‍♂

[@peachespavalko1980]

Spot on response and great closing analogy. Too bad those poor folks, whom I don’t think *totally* considered what they were signing and/or were ignorant of the sub-par construction, couldn’t have been beamed up. May they live long & prosper in the afterlife. 🖖

[@matthewotis3594]

Thank you up. Couldn't say it better myself.

[@eliljeho]

They weren't red shirts, they are red mist…

[@kyrozudesoya1829]

The problem was the passengers were classified as such to help the company release themselves of legal liability if anything went wrong.

[@sema6008]

That whole sub thing was a scam. They lied to make it look like they were explorers. They just wanted to do underwater tourism and were too greedy for money. Even the surviving co-founder is full of BS. that’s the frustrating part. They were all exposed and yet they still try to lie.

[@laiadefioye7845]

Unclassed submersible! How could this man have been allowed to operate . Incredible!

[@Mrz-sb1hw]

I wouldn't go in any sub, just looking at this thing l can sense it was a death trap. Sad those people lost their lives, that young gentleman only nineteen.

[@rogwarrior1018]

the lawless international waters....

[@catherinenieves5106]

International waters. There is no regulations. Just like cruise ships. Very difficult to hold the cruise line responsible since they are registered in other countries.

[@stephenstead7270]

Well he never come back to face the court charges. It a coffin sub built from a DIY Store play station controller a DIY lighting and papers to say l sign for my own deaths mate you right how was this not look into safe comes first

[@TURBOINTEGRATYPER]

International waters with no rules or laws

[@amcds2867]

All that was needed was proper testing, ie sending the sub to those depths unmanned on various dives to monitor the rate of deterioration of the carbon fiber cylindrical hull. In this way he might have come up with a better solution using other materials, and he would have been hailed as a pioneer in the industry.

[@ajo8075]

There was testing, he ignored his engineers’ repeated warnings. Carbon fiber is already understood to not be safe enough to craft the hull, it can’t withstand the pressure on its own. He bragged about doing it anyways. He wouldn’t have been hailed a pioneer he still would’ve been hailed as an idiot as he had been for a while, just without to the international recognition.

[@gherreraj]

@@ajo8075No testing to failure was done to determine the lifespan of carbon fiber while under extreme compression due to the massive water pressure. No one knows what carbon fiber does when subject to those pressures. That’s the problem.

[@amcds2867]

@@ajo8075 as I mentioned in my comment, testing the sub at those depths unmanned had not been done. I also said that if he had gone about his project carefully he might have come up with a viable solution that had not been attempted yet by the industry, and if things had happened that way he would have been hailed as a pioneer. Nothing wrong with him building a company geared towards oceanbed tourism, it's how he executed his undertaking that ended tragically.

[@buttercupstruelove340]

@@amcds2867 Corners were and warnings were ignored for one simple reason: to save the time and expense of more thorough testing. Unmanned dives is possible by remotely piloting the submersible and using industry strain equipment to measure for pressure anomalies along the inside of the hull. But all of this costs money and Stockton Rush chose to roll the dice and gamble with his life as well as those of his passengers. I don't believe he had a death wish - he was gambling on the odds being in his favor and it cost them all.

[@allanphillips3749]

what Flaws me most about all this is was it was like Fate. Before the actual ship went down a spooky book was written called the wreck of the Titan and it shared a lot in common with the sinking of the actual titanic and now this Sub is likely one of the most famous Sub wrecks and it is called the Titan