60v Sur Ron X VS 72v 12000w Stealth Bomber Ebike

[@tacticooldennis]

I have a 12kw stealth clone and I take it everywhere. I think the rear suspension is lacking, there's no linkage and the rear swingarm could be constructed better. (a lot of bikes broken at the lower spring mount) Its cool in the sense you can upgrade the internals for cheap. but it feels like a PC rolling over rocks. Internals don't have dedicated mounts, the battery sits inside, the controller held in with zip ties. so I would say its more suited for light trails. (not actual jumps) The seat is also tiny, (likely a 50cc seat) but you could build 2-3 Stealth clones for the price of one fully modded Sur Ron.

[@VoltedAdventures]

yea thats why I keep my stealth for road riding only. I let my Sur Ron do the off-road stuff. I just need to pick up some road tires for the stealth tho it'll make it ride much better

[@cordful]

I also have the stealth clone but I find the breaks are a bit lacking have you guys got any suggestions for good upgrades in that area ?

[@VoltedAdventures]

@@cordful what brand brakes do you have on yours?

[@tacticooldennis]

@@cordful I know the regen makes up a lot of the stopping power on an ebike. So make sure it's on. (you can kind of hear it humming when it's working) I would start with larger rotors if available. they sell kits with rotor and adapter 2 screws pretty easy upgrade. I see a lot of Sur rons running Magura MT5s with 4 pistons that help stop a lot better than 2. Ultimately some people are swapping the whole front end for an 85cc dirt bike. Which gives you great brakes and suspension but also adds a lot of weight.

[@cheessepuff9280]

Got a link to where you bought it

[@mixflip]

FYI if you wanted the hub drive ebike for dirt trails and uphill riding you could have chosen a hub motor with a 5T or 6T winding. I’m guessing your hub motor has a stamp on it that says 2.5T or 3T somewhere (along with numbers in front of it). The low numbers will give you a high top speed but weak torque… and higher numbers will give you massive torque but less top end speed.

[@TrianglePants]

Interesting! Which bikes do you recommend for high torque, but higher top speeds than the normal 28mph? I've got a bunch more questions, which you can read in my comment I've posted.

[@frankierays]

You made a good T-shirt slogan with your “Once you start throttling… you’re going to want to throttle forever.” Good stuff!

[@VoltedAdventures]

Great Idea 🫡

[@BWT599]

Loved my old Stealth Electric Bomber. Main reason why my young kids race motocross now.

[@500wattz]

I love my stealth bomber fat 26 clone. One thing worth mentioning is the bomber frame is steel, the surron is aluminum. Bomber is heavier by about 30'esh pounds.

[@VoltedAdventures]

yea its a massive bike for sure

[@deebee8653]

dope video. much needed info. i love my Sur Ron but i’ll eventually get a stealth

[@VoltedAdventures]

Thanks for watching bro! 🫡

[@VoltedAdventures.]

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[@russeldeeney1406]

Well Done. No Ums No Brain farts and Great Cadence, delivery, Flow, and highly informal. Well Done and Thank You

[@VoltedAdventures]

Thanks for watching! 🫡

[@silbernersurfer8264]

In my opinion I dont need that much top speed. Lets say 40mph is enough for me. That means a high torque motor for the Bomber would be great. My other concern is that the frame of the Bomber isnt very durable. Seen a vid where one rider broke the frame!

[@VoltedAdventures]

Yea if you were to take off road, im not sure how long the frame would last.... I personally keep it for road use only. Do you know if the guy who broke the frame was off roading or jumping?

[@silbernersurfer8264]

@@VoltedAdventures He showed it in the vid. Heavy trail riding.

[@Alex-gn6xb]

Jumping for sure.

[@kanogomez5063]

I bought a Stealth Bombers 72v 5k hub motor almost brand new for only $1,500 I got lucky mine does 69mph I did some changing on the app settings and it's amazing....but I want something else like the surron....

[@anthonysantos2677]

Where did you buy your stealth bomber? I want one so that I can ride to school and work

[@lucasp1776]

Where did you buy it? A Link maybe ?

[@S416RE]

Well done on this brother well done very professional. like how you honestly compared the both giving people both sides of the bikes 👍 The Sur Ron is still my dream bike and I will own one one day ain't forgetting that 😂👍And cant leave the camera out did a good job mad Respect brother hope all been well 🤘🏼

[@VoltedAdventures]

Thank you brother, yea just trying to give the most info I can on both. Im sure youll get a Sur Ron one of these days. are you gonna sel the Talaria or have both?

[@S416RE]

@@VoltedAdventures in time brother in 😂 Gonna keep both don't really want to sell the talaria love that bike 😂👍

[@VoltedAdventures]

@@S416RE I feel you. it has sentimental value at this point... gonna be hard to let her go

[@S416RE]

@@VoltedAdventures Yea man especially what I'm going to be doing to her she ain't done yet brother 😂 I might get the wrap sooner still on the fence I did a mock up with the warp and yea I think it's going to look pretty badass 😂 I also now have the shinko 241 golden boy I'm going to get one for the front and put both on still have some thread on the rear just some 😂👍

[@VoltedAdventures]

@@S416RE damnnn thats crazy!😂 how many miles did you go with the stock ones? def got your moneys worth, I also didnt replace tires right away, kinda wanted to go thru the stock ones even tho they sucked, I feel like it made me a better rider on dirt. and yea that shinko is great for what youre doing, just a bit heavy but def a good tire.🤙🏼💪🏼🫡

[@mad151maxx4]

Another great video brother. You need some mods for the bomber. I already order a new saddle, wait to you see.

[@VoltedAdventures]

Thanks bro! I appreciate you watching. I thikn the first mod will be some road tires for sure

[@bryanfinnerty947]

Great review

[@VoltedAdventures]

Thank you

[@solomanthetegu1415]

Good review I have the 15000 watt Stealth Bomber 50 ah 200amp. A street master. I live in San Clemente I have the fastest bike in town. (that I know of) It is a ripper. Very stable at 55 MPH and above

[@VoltedAdventures]

Thats a sick setup

[@solomanthetegu1415]

@@JSB1TV Truly I don't know yet. I have gone 26-30 miles on a ride and have half battery left. I live on top of a nasty steep hill and that takes a lot of power home around 20%. However I would say so far I could ride 50 miles on flat ground averaging 20 MPH. I try to drain the battery by crushing it a long the beach at 50+ for a about 1/2 to 3/4 miles along PCH at North Beach @ 55 to 57 MPH passing traffic. If you want I will send you a link from the company I bought it from on Alibaba.

[@BigBoyReefs]

@@solomanthetegu1415 I’ll take the link!

[@juliuss532]

I also need a link!

[@seanowens9683]

@@solomanthetegu1415 how much did you pay for it? Also please send the link. I love right by San Clemente, need this with some board attachments

[@TrianglePants]

I live in the De Soto National Forest, which means dirt/gravel, hilly roads. So far, I like the Stealth Bomber clone more, for its top speed and range. Could it be made off-road capable easily/cheaply? I'm seeing a 72v 70ah from a Utah-based company called ZappsCycles. Which is easier to cover the battery on? This is a fairly wet and humid area, and I like the covers I've seen on Onyx's (RIP probably) line of RCRs. How about cargo capacity? I have a small and a huge dog, and a BikeStream RV trailer, which I'll probably also want to put my 55lb inflatable island in.

[@Redjs90]

The bomber can handle the off-road trail. But please have good suspension, and remember to true your rear wheel often. The weight of the hub motor can misalign the rim after just one bumpy ride.

[@VoltedAdventures]

Yea I had to constantly tighten the spokes

[@keithsada1380]

TRX takes the clones and turns them into really nice bikes. I just ordered the 5000w Ultra. I hope I like it.

[@VoltedAdventures]

You will love it

[@economicfusion6065]

I saw the trxbikes. Look nice

[@dymonking]

What’s the website please

[@michaelross749]

I wonder if anyone has coverted the stealth bomber clone to a mid drive motor like the ko moto & controller using the stock battery that would be interesting to find out see if anyone has thought of doing that type of build I know you would have to change the back wheel because of the hub motor but that is something I don't think I have seen anyone do yet

[@VoltedAdventures]

Yea no ones done that yet, pretty cool idea tho, Imagine both hub and mid drive together 🤯

[@michaelross749]

@Volted Adventures a hub drive & mid drive together thats roughly 18000 killawatts together but think of the headache of trying to get both motors to work together plus all the wiring you would need a bac 8000 with a specific tune to get that build right

[@VoltedAdventures]

@@michaelross749 yea that would be a pain but still kind of a crazy idea

[@graydenhasty8628]

Thx for the help bro and how big of a difference is the max turning

[@VoltedAdventures]

Thanks for watching. What do you mean max turning?

[@graydenhasty8628]

@@VoltedAdventures turning the handle bars all the way to either side

[@VoltedAdventures]

@@graydenhasty8628 The Sur Ron has a better turning radius

[@graydenhasty8628]

@@VoltedAdventures a very noticeable difference?

[@VoltedAdventures]

@@graydenhasty8628 not by that much tbh like 3-4 inched

[@cledelamotivation]

Hi, where are you purchase the stealth bomber ? Thanks you

[@VoltedAdventures]

this is how you buy one kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5WpY3Zsq6l1rMk

[@Way2Digital]

What are your SW900 P 07 P 13 Settings I mistakenly changed mine and need to go back to default.

[@salviaaable]

i got that stealth bomber clone frame the other one, with 3kw hub motor and of course 72v, surron woud be nice but i wanted my custom design so its way cheaper building on that instead of a surron sadly they dont sell the parts separate...

[@VoltedAdventures]

custom life baby 💪🏼 lets goooo 🙌🏼

[@STEALTHMODE.]

Were can i get road tires for the stealth bomber guys anyone know id be greatful to find were to grab some. Thanks???

[@VoltedAdventures]

I would look at the current tires you have and see what size they are (should be on the sidewall of the tire) then hop online and try to find the same size for road 🙌🏼

[@STEALTHMODE.]

Ye i can only find the same tires that cane with the stealth bomber atm, seems to be hard to get slick road tires for the bomber

[@VoltedAdventures]

@@STEALTHMODE. What size are your tires?

[@STEALTHMODE.]

80/100 21👌🏻👌🏻

[@VoltedAdventures]

@@STEALTHMODE. yea the 21 inch makes it hard to find tires but I found one that the closest to slicks as possible amzn.to/43jBKxD

[@midermoo9256]

Nice video

[@VoltedAdventures]

Thanks for watching 🤙🏼

[@midermoo9256]

@@VoltedAdventures dude I ordered the stealth bomber bc of u. I watched ur little short then bought one lol thx

[@VoltedAdventures]

@@midermoo9256 youre gonna love it 🙌🏼

[@robertwilliams5964]

Im a lucky man got both but im 12,000 watts became abiba said 15000 whatts is slower than 12 000 watts the weight its running QS273 3,5 t hub with 82volts sabvart 200amp controller shes very fasted use the 60v 38amp surron for offroad stealth heavy weight ebike streets only. Cool dude

[@joshpointoh]

Do we know how accurate the estimates are? They are telling me the max speed on 5kw 72v is 50mph. Does that sound doable? Its a big price jump to the 8kw, but you do get a better controller too, but i really think 50mph will do me. For the price of the 12kw, i can start looking at tge new new surron. I got quoted 3890 for that

[@VoltedAdventures]

I had a 72v 5kw stealth before i got this one and yes it will do 50mph, as a matter of fact I liked the throttle response of my old 5kw better than this 12kw one. I think the tune I have on it is just not good

[@Franny-iy8if]

I swear I'm getting that stealth bomber soon

[@VoltedAdventures]

This is where I got this bike offer.alibaba.com/cps/rsg69f77?bm=cps&src=saf&productId=1600057922665

[@TofuBurns_11]

Is your stealth bomber waterproof to any extent? Like would you ride it in the rain?

[@VoltedAdventures]

I dont know how much the hub motor will like the rain tbh... as far as the battery and controller, those are inside the body so they pretty protected... but in general I dont ride in the rain anyways....

[@LzyCube]

Where you're at, do you need to register the stealth or can you ride it on the road without plates/registration ?

[@michaelpeters6659]

Almost everywhere you can ride the Stealth just fine. Just don’t be dumb in front of cops

[@therealstimmy5260]

@@michaelpeters6659 dont be dumb in general, the thing is an absolute weapon, on 12kw

[@michaelpeters6659]

@@therealstimmy5260 indeed!

[@tarzanyogi]

I have a question, does the stealth bomber have pedal assist? Or is that defined by eco-mode, sports mode, and turbo mode?

[@VoltedAdventures]

It has 5 levels of pedal assist, mine is disabled tho...

[@escargoux]

dang i'd expect the range on the stealth to be way higher. what mph do you mostly ride in? if you're pushing 50+ most of the time then it makes sense

[@VoltedAdventures]

yea I was going pretty fast most of the time, you can actually see the range test video on my channel. If I was to go slower I would probably get 50 miles

[@Magnumtostarelli]

Still that's pretty good no?

[@tangovang8699]

About 20miles

[@graydenhasty8628]

Hey and also do u know if I could change the grip?

[@VoltedAdventures]

if you contact who you bought the bike from, you might be able to buy a full twist throttle... and Im pretty sure you can change the grips just make sure the size is correct

[@graydenhasty8628]

@@VoltedAdventures alr thx man

[@kanogomez5063]

The Altis Sigma is a Beast for only 5k...I think I'm getting that one....85mph from factory

[@MrHydroguy]

First one!

[@VoltedAdventures]

appreciate you watching 🫡

[@VoltedAdventures.]

👆👆YOU’VE BEEN PICKED FOR THE ONGOING GIVEAWAY🎊.

[@JamesGalipeau-h7i]

I would love two of those hubs. Need a delay on the front hub. She is going to kick. Electric Hornet. signing off.

[@tothesoil7297]

did you get the Suron x from Alibaba?

[@VoltedAdventures]

Got it from Luna Cycle

[@tylermatthews3088]

Where can I buy myself a brand new 12000w

[@VoltedAdventures]

this is how you buy one kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5WpY3Zsq6l1rMk

[@Megis-v2s]

where do i buy a stealth bomber?

[@VoltedAdventures]

This is HOW TO PURCHASE THIS BIKE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5WpY3Zsq6l1rMk This is where I got my bike offer.alibaba.com/cps/rsg69f77?bm=cps&src=saf&productId=1600057922665

[@guybrushwayne4388]

You have to put pedals on it to make it road legal and make sure it has brake lights and headlights. Im not sure if its road legal if you can limit the motor on a riding mode, but if anyone knows please let me know.

[@christopherhtun4614]

is the stealth bomber street legal?

[@VoltedAdventures]

Gotta check with local and state laws

[@cheessepuff9280]

Anywon got a link to teh stealth bomber bike

[@3133-d5y]

I just ordrerd the 15000 watt stealth bomber cant wait

[@VoltedAdventures]

nice, congrats

[@EnriqueVillar-u7k]

Do I need a drivers license for a Sutton in nyc

[@SMgolf_1997]

No

[@edgurash834]

Great video! Are the rear shocks on the on the surron and the stealth bomber identical? Also, lbs. on the coils?

[@AndrewStorlie]

should have gon with the qs205 instead of the qs273... alot less weight and can still take ALOT more power then your giving it

[@graydenhasty8628]

Hey did your stealth bomber come with the full grip throttle?

[@VoltedAdventures]

yessir, you have a few option to choose from

[@graydenhasty8628]

@@VoltedAdventures dang I wish I knew that lol

[@VoltedAdventures]

@@graydenhasty8628 what happened yours came with half twist?

[@Movementwithjames]

Damn only 64mph? They said 75-80mph for the 1200w on allibaba:(

[@VoltedAdventures]

yea thats what im saying... I really think something is up with my tune

[@jdmvette]

that might be the theoretical unloaded speed w/o rider weight

[@crazymedia2102]

just remember that electric bike if you ride bike full speed like 40 or 50 mile it doesn't give range much better ride medium range electric bike it gas engine bike if you ride fast you consume more gas

[@Alex-gn6xb]

Why don't you compare to 15 kWt torque motor Stealth ? That what Id love you to do .. btw the torque motor is 5t

[@petesmith1]

I see a Suron and a NoName bike - I don't get it?

[@RexerYTRexer]

What dont you get pete?

[@petesmith1]

@@RexerYTRexer There is 1 x Suron but no Stealth bike? I do see a No Name bike though. Unless you say what the brand is, we will be none the wiser.

[@hugohebert]

Nice chemtrails in the sky !!!

[@VoltedAdventures]

Gotta love LA

[@dogdipstick]

THAT AINT A STEALTH

[@suicidejocke1]

He said right in the video it’s a clone 🤦‍♂️

[@dogdipstick]

@@suicidejocke1 Then why didn't the title reflect it was a clone? Classic click baiting.

[@SolVessel]

@@dogdipstick cry

[@dogdipstick]

@@SolVessel Arooooooooo Arerrooioootoooooo (howling cry) NOT a Stealth Bomber Arooooooooooooooooor

[@VoltedAdventures]

lol