BETTER THAN A SURRON? | Apollo RFN

[@markcloudchaser874]

6:07 in, as you turn the key, you can hear the horse power lol..beautiful bike.

[@antl82]

im gonna guess that rocket mode cuts off as its just briefly using the peak rating for the pack. if it was kept on you run the risk of hitting thermal cut off limits of whichever cells they are using. As annoying as it is, thats quite a good safety feature.

[@JackCecil]

I'll be testing those limits. You can bet on it.

[@keithcarpenter5254]

I'd expect the esc to have current limiting too, by the time the cells are hot enough to trip the thermal fuse they'll already be damaged....

[@shmack-dab-in-da-middle3960]

Garbage...I want PowerBand on demand!!! 2Strooooooooooke!

[@ericklein5097]

If they aren't using Molicel P42A's or P45B's I'd question every other choice made on this bike by the manufacturer

[@jeffmcclain]

@@ericklein5097They are using LG M50LT cells, which rate at 7A each (max burst 10A) and in 20S7P config, that is pitiful (yes they SAY BMS max is 85A normal and 150A turbo burst, but that don't mean cells can supply that). EBMX told me the tune they are working on for it is struggling to add much given the top end current out of this pack limitations...

[@dillonshaw]

Try to make it over to the LZ compound to test it out!

[@mediatool9596]

Yeah these things are killer but, WHY Dafuq do they cost $10k+ !!????? It's obscene

[@rcpilot179]

Maybe if they get some competition? Hopefully, the price will go down.

[@robertrawdanowicz6735]

I will be selling them at 6K

[@LordLoMR2]

They’re mainly for rich kids or guys with money to blow.

[@lukeamato423]

The batteries .that's why

[@kirstyedwards4600]

I'd prefer the Talaria 72v

[@jakegorman7121]

My lawnmower feels good on the grass also . Confidence inspiring LMAO

[@deeredude]

I want more tractor content. You always make good videos.

[@JackCecil]

I'm working on it!

[@davem145mxr]

So do you put playing cards in the spokes to try to mimic a motorcycle like sound ?

[@baltazard133T]

Pretty cool to you realize the front forks/suspension is a meager little mountain bike setup.....first time you case that front-end you're going over the bars for sure....

[@CartaIV]

You're tripping those front stantions are probably close to 45mm with 200mm of travel. Most high end full supension bikes (used for trails not downhill) run 120-150mm of travel lol that is 100% dirtbike suspension if anything EXTREMELY nice downhill forks not to mention theyre inverted..

[@Jay-ns5ub]

@@CartaIV Downhill mountain bikes usually use 200mm travel forks

[@jeeperzcreeperzz]

You should do a comparison on a track with a surron

[@JackCecil]

yes for sure!

[@tenors001]

Looking forward to seeing them in stock so I can pick one up. With my size the sur ron was just a bit on the small side. This should be perfect!

[@JackCecil]

Yea this is one size up!

[@Slippzy]

10k.....

[@srrtbb]

Surron is releasing the ultra which is bigger version on the superbee which should be the same size as this.

[@robertrawdanowicz6735]

​@@Slippzy I just ordered 20 of them. I am going to sell them at $6K if you are interested.

[@robertrawdanowicz6735]

massage me if you are interested in buying one. I am taking orders

[@rogerhardy6481]

Rear suspension is smooth and doesn't kick like conventional suspensions.

[@johnnymckissick2735]

After the whole video i dident catch the brand name?

[@rwheellife]

Sorry, you spoke about the rear brake calipers, and displayed the Disk roader instead?

[@NateAlder]

Awesome song, where did you get it?

[@affemitwaffe1404]

nice but can u ride it like the sur ron every where, with this optic, i dont think so

[@johnmartin2079]

I want one for the street headlights and tail light brake light switch

[@michaelh6667]

Are they any charging station on the trail?

[@r7kelley553]

The tortoise mode seemed pretty useless but other than that it looks like a lot of fun. I would love to get one someday.

[@James-sir]

Just because you don’t need to make it more powerful you being Jack probably should make it more powerful

[@JackCecil]

You already know.

[@SIMON-dp5sf]

I hope to eventually see this thing become unrealistically fast lol

[@brianadams429]

How does this compare to the KTM electric bike?

[@emplays22]

I get that rocket mode lasting a few seconds is a precaution so the motor or battery doesn't get burnt out or the rider doesn't hurt themselves but i feel like they should've let it last a bit longer. Since they was able to program it to do that then i assume the curious and savvy person can undo that restriction.

[@robertstetson9705]

Hey Jack what is that music in the beginning. I've been looking for that style like the song opium. Thanks big fan from way back. Good to see your still producing content

[@maxwell8359]

I’d like to know too!

[@Twin_turbo_coyote_fox]

Controller and battery upgrade should allow permanent rocket mode. Battery probably cant keep up for extended periods of time.

[@MZ8UEZ]

Omg, that Song is Bangin! Who is that?

[@islandclub69420]

opening edit is 🔥🔥🔥🔥.SPUNK!

[@ivenjarchau218]

The bike looks great and seems to rip, but when I hear it kills a SURRON it make me wonder. Surron is a brand name, so what Surron model is it being compared to? SURRON has the Light bee, Light bee X, Ultra bee and Storm bee on the market.

[@JagLite]

Looks great! I had to watch the video twice to hear who makes it though. Now I have to see if you have any more videos on it... Apollo you say? RFN is the model? Must google that!

[@yeinierserrano2635]

When is this going in the market 😍???

[@zaccllewellyn8950]

If the seat and plastics were a bit lower down from the bars it'd be good to stunt but you could get smaller forks and get wider smaller tyres to build a freestyle street stunt bike build aswell

[@DaveEPie]

Suspension? What forks? What rear shock?

[@srrtbb]

Since you have superbee wish you would park next to this for size comparison. Also surron releasing superbee ultra which should be similar in size. Ps. Man your property is dope as hell! I love all the Kei trucks you have!!!

[@JackCecil]

light bee is around 15-20% smaller. the ultra bee is around 15-20% larger. so this bike fits in between.

[@camvango]

Ultra bee is 187 lbs so much heavier

[@PunchingCacti]

You should have the name of the bike somewhere in the title or description at least.

[@rirrid5662]

Exactly how do we know what it even is?

[@wonderingwolf206]

Wish I could afford one

[@ulukini9183]

Does it make the horse noise every time you turn the key on 6:08? Pretty cool feature

[@DUB-sential]

Yeah that's boss

[@BenjySparky]

Jack you rock! Love the channel and content! Love that bike must be nice because you said it was better than a SurRon! Peace

[@NateAlder]

What's the name of the manufacturer and where can I find this bike?

[@DenisDenis-mj3yw]

RFN APPOLO basée au Japon .

[@minzahhh1]

Looks 10x cooler than a sur

[@ionflow1073]

I heard you mention that it's made by "Apollo". Is that the same Apollo that makes the scooters?

[@joserefe5950]

It's a good thing I made a quick video scan. I though this video is about the bike specially how it performs. But you attached the cam to your body and what I will be watching is where your going not the bike.. Someone should be taking the video and do a panning or use a drone.

[@jimmywhitlow2012]

I would love to test this bike in the mountain trails in WV.

[@Bayrum78]

Ditto. HMT Mullens to Pineville in rabbit mode.

[@jconn1984]

Been a fan for few years now. No hate but curious if you still want to post car content? Been watching long enough to understand you post based on what you want, not for views or money...just would love a car update. Either way love your channel

[@JackCecil]

Yea of course there will be plenty of car stuff. Thanks for watching

[@egroegartfart]

I think for proper testing of this bike it should be tested in different climates. Ohio would be an excellent test site. I would be more than happy to do one of those tests. Lol.

[@AM-ob7yi]

then buy one

[@davin898]

Only in ohio

[@deano9919]

How does this bike not exist on the internet? Searched all over and can’t find it😮

[@ermac6466]

Man i cant wait to put on a pedal kit on that thing.

[@southernebiking]

Yes, but can you do a pirouette or a Piaffe at K in the dressage arena lol. Pretty cool toy

[@robleith5885]

What actually is this brand etc x

[@leeedwards7721]

In the UK there are INCH-PERFECT-TRIALS that use the New Electric TRIALS bikes and they are Brilliant, You can get 1 with an Clutch so when you Need to Rev the Motor [WITHOUT TAKING OFF] You can Hold in the Clutch Rev the Motor and release the Clutch to JUMP up obstacles. E-MOTION i think the Manufacturer is in Europe. The Best E-BIKE i have seen yet [Like an SURRON/TALARIA] Is the E-RIDE-PRO SS,As it has already got EVERYTHING you would put on a Standard Surron 60V.

[@laureljensen796]

They make the Sur ron ultra bee now and storm bee for full size.

[@ls_812]

I love watching Jack's channel because he's got the coolest "toys" on KZbin..

[@Knocsgaming]

Why does the display look different from the stock bike

[@MTO_Brothers]

Looks like mtb brakes and suspensions which I’m very worried about with a bike way heavier than a Surron…

[@derekwoodcock2510]

Is this size comparable to the Talaria

[@tech_gg]

What is this bike called?

[@robuhblind4054]

I'm pissed. I bought this same bike and I don't get the horse sounds when I power it on. @06:08 Did you have to unlock that feature?

[@SavageD1984]

This one looks super nice and with some good power behind it, would love to see you hack this one to unlock it's full potential, like getting it to stay in rocket mode all the time and unlocking the speed limiter , I think it would take it to another level specially being a 100lb bike 👍👍

[@JackCecil]

For sure! I'm working on it!

[@dariusbass115]

You've got that right! Very well said.

[@mrobertson188]

For 10k you can get something way more fun than one of these

[@kylekq]

@@mrobertson188 He said same price as a surron, so I'm assuming 4-5k

[@kevinmccreamotivationandwe3054]

Nice but what happens when it sets on fire 👍

[@md.m.8372]

eat it? attempt to do the intercourse in it's smokin hawt holes? inhale the smoke till ya feel kinda funny? Dress it up nice and take it to an adult bookstore? 🤣🤣🤣 Would really would happen tho if you have the BMS fail while riding the bike (vs not using the bike so battery is removed & in a fireproof lipo bag on the charger in storage) & for some reason the cell ignited; common sense says put it out and order a new battery. tf else? 😂 As someone who's been a professional mechanic for 10ish years; traditional bikes/vehicles have wayyyyy more potential points of failure/things that can catch on fire compared to an EV and even have the same type of batteries EV's use for 12v accessory power with the same level of risk of chemically igniting (in just about every car made after 2015/16). Also they usually not easy to remove quickly or easily get whatever type of fire retardant on either or have active BMS to monitor the cells or alert/stop/prevent the cells from chemically igniting. TBH ya got 100x reasons to be worried about a traditional IC vehicle going up in flames vs an EV. For every 1600 vehicles that catch fire; only 4 of em are electric based on data from 2021 🤠

[@diegodelavega1335]

what the link to the bike store?

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

Apollo Has impressed me with their Pitbikes and now with this! Do you know if the speeds can be changed on the fly while moving? or does the bike need to be stopped?

[@TheSavageTruth-k2i]

Could you please tell me how I can become a tester for products like this? I've tried but can't seem to figure it out man.

[@paulsedyps84]

Make rocket mode is like my 750watt bagang mid drive motor difference is it doesn't cut out after 10 seconds it didn't cost me more than £800 including the battery and I got to choose the bike i put it on .these thing's cost way way way too much

[@manuelfloressr.9039]

HOW MUCH?

[@mmig2116]

Definitely looks good surron is small I’m interested in this what’s the price?

[@robertrawdanowicz6735]

I am selling them for $6k. Just got a shipment show up in the Los Angeles

[@billyhendrix]

When is this one coming out?

[@petter5721]

Love my Cake bike 💕

[@ChrisCrossingWires1212]

I like it just because it's not a surron and small and I'm glad you said you have the fastest surron at 85 but I really need to know that 1/4 mile time. top speed doesn't win races I'm asking cuz I wanna know if you have the fastest ebike.

[@brickcity9mm896]

When can we see you doing backflips?

[@shawnhorne9296]

Where can you purchase one , nice video good job 👏 👍

[@How2Bcool2124]

Where do you buy this bike?

[@garydetaeye7081]

bet the price will still be more than its worth

[@k-member]

What is the brand and model please?

[@muhammadli9440]

Give me 450-600 power a traditional gear shifter at the left foot and a clutch and 5 speed... On a dirt bike frame and I'd want one.

[@rafaelmoreno3243]

Get a used dirt bike on the marketplace And have a buddy that's a good welder weld a bracket for your 72v mid drive motor and the hardest part is done ✅ after that get a controller and battery based on what your needs are Also replacement parts will always be available. Always! If a ebike company shuts down. Good luck finding replacement parts( seriously 😂).But this is a nice bike plus side is it's an Apollo those parts will always be around ( Honda clone parts probably!) 😂

[@nick_stag]

did you see the ultra bee yet ?

[@MX-CO]

An ultra bee with 21/18 wheels is super sweet but expensive

[@HexworldEF]

Song name for edit?

[@OKFrax-ys2op]

How about the Beta e version?

[@SpreadingKnowledgeVlogs]

Oh man I really wanna come by your shop to check this thing out can you lmk if that’s possible? I want t9 buy one I got rid of my surron and got a grom but I miss the surron

[@john-nx4xn]

Does it have a name?

[@timbuzick8778]

looks like the guy on mib where his head grows back

[@cuzindave4205]

How much does one cost? What name brand is it? Where can I buy one?

[@quentinday7724]

How much that cost.

[@capolean2902]

its a mid bike looks cool asf i bought a pit bike emptied out gonna make it electric fast enough for highways

[@Captinfun101]

When you said little on the dinky side the horse in the background agreed 😂

[@Anthony-os8id]

After seeing multiple vids of Ebikes catching fire. I believe if they can make the bike's with a quick battery release system so if there is a fire, you can kick a lever and allow the battery to unplug and drop too the ground. Saving the bike from damage.

[@TraveladvRajanSRai]

Ren. They got lextra n other china brands to. Egl rps

[@viciousviolet3783]

How does this compare to the new surron ultra bee?

[@AdrianaJones-pz1bm]

So what’s the brand I would like to get one 😁

[@jollmearoint1970]

You kept saying we will get to that🤣🤣 this was a great rundown on this bike man it is very cool and beginner mode that's a great spot for first timers it's got plenty of power it seems to be pretty badass💪🏽💪🏽💚👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@franciscoe.9989]

what is the name of the ebike?? I want to buy it

[@joshuaglass1731]

I’ve seen them but dam I didn’t know 👍🔥

[@alexander3131]

I will be getting one of those

[@robertrawdanowicz6735]

Are you in USA?

[@markklimaszewski3399]

HOW MUCH $$$$ ?

[@robertrawdanowicz6735]

I sell them at $6k

[@alex.toader]

I didnt get the name of the bike. I hear Sur on twice a minute tho.. weird.

[@curtiswherron8016]

Where can I get one and how much are they?

[@JackCecil]

Around 5-6k and we will be selling them!

[@dnickens20115]

@@JackCecil when will that be?

[@CleanCulture]

need to try this 1

[@Silverhaze78]

Looks like the Ultra Bee has some competition. Not really sure on all the stats but these bikes look nice. Any idea on the pricing?

[@alexcox6673]

You should look up the KZbinr sur ronster on KZbin because he’s also got some great content like jack

[@JackCecil]

Yea it's an interesting comparison. The ultra bee should be faster out of the box, but the Apollo is around 50lbs lighter, so with some tweaking it could be quicker. Price is also about 1k cheaper than the ultra bee

[@paratrooperz1]

when will this bike release and whats the make model and is there a pre order i have a stock surron i want to give the lady and i will get this! because my budget is surron level but i want more than a stock surron so i think its what i need

[@greggory448]

I love it I'd like to be in rocket mode all the time

[@fishtailfuture]

I think this is def the future. And I'm a huge dirt bike guy. But I've ridden an electric bike. They are amazing. It's just longevity. What's funny is the could make an X version of electric bike. But the keep making them for crazy performance. If they designed a Bike to be electric, but more in the 225lb range rather than the 150-175 range. they would get the longevity that guys like myself are looking for. 3.5-4hrs. I would consider it then.

[@The1502flash]

Haven’t heard what it is yet ?

[@Shadowy607]

Can you limit it to 25?