SURRON X vs STEALTH B-52 // $4,000 vs $10,000 E-BIKE // Drag Race and Comparison

Comparing the Surron X with the Stealth B-52 Bomber. Electric bike drag race and comparison.
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[@budwhite9781]

I really like the fact that the Stealth has a working PAS up to 50 mph. I personally like torque sensing pedal assist as my favorite electric bike experience. Good comparison video here. Cheers👍

[@Packmeacone]

For aus we need pedals to be legal as well

[@TwoWheelsAndAPonytail]

The surron is soooo lovely! Rode it last week. Amazing 😍

[@771shadowolf]

To bad it's shooting up in price. Does not seem worth it now.

[@rabbithole8592]

​@@771shadowolf Too*

[@BrianLampright913]

Suspension is the weak point of the surron, most people doing serious off road with them is wanting a Fox 40 up front and also a rear shock upgrade which if purchased new would cost you about $2k. The DNM suspension is junk for rock gardens and big hits. But overall considering the insanely low price tag of the surron it’s incredible.

[@RadioRyder]

Sounds like the Stealth is a lot quieter than the Sur Ron, which is pretty darn quiet itself...even with pedaling and going faster than the X. Nice vid!

[@Tiralful]

it's 2.5x more so I'd hope so.

[@eXTreemator]

​@@Tiralfuldumbatrons, it's not because of it's price

[@JayOh]

doesn't really seem like its worth the 10k the ron is giving it a run!

[@chaseschannel1151]

You can get clones that are 1/3 the price... I have a video up of mine and the link where to purchase...But I agree, the original not worth the difference!

[@FarmerFpv]

@@chaseschannel1151 you can't compare a mid drive to a hub drive to Sur Ron will kill the stealth bomber off-road and on a motocross track

[@JayOh]

@@ghettogrower5734 This bike is more than double the price. It should wallop the Surron in every way possible for that price difference. You're just splitting hairs in my opinion.

[@JayOh]

@@ghettogrower5734 the bomber should need ZERO mods at that price....Surron is cheap because it's made for modding

[@FarmerFpv]

@@ghettogrower5734 BS bro it cannot do 60 70 mph. 80 mph? You would need more voltage at least 101.8 volts which don't come cheap. You are the most delusional E-biker I have ever come across. If I want to go fast I'll get a street bike which is built for speed. The bomber is supposedly an offroad bike and it ain't even good at that. A Sur Ron with just a Ludacris mod eats it alive all day every day. The bomber is also a hub motor it's like comparing apples and oranges when it comes to an MTB. You sound like someone with buyer remorse trying to convince yourself you made the right choice LMAO! Why even mod for that price? My KTM Freeride EXC bone stock would eat them both up then go after your girl. Sur Ron over Stealth Bomber any day. It's a 1/3 of the price with much more to offer are you that emotionally attached to the bomber you throw logic out the door? lol

[@lukejames778]

I personally have a B-52 and it’s the best purchase iv made expensive but when your riding it you don’t care. It’s like all nice things they cost 🤷🏼 my neighbor epitomized it best he said “it’s like the ferrari of bikes” and I found that statement to be spot on. Yes you can get a surron there very good I would compare them to a top spec merc or bmw but there’s something different about the stealth and the tape proves it.

[@BWT599]

I haven’t ridden the Sur Ron, but have been watching a ton of videos on the X with modifications. I put 82,000 kms on my Stealth Electric Bomber (#107) and I loved that bike so much. Someone tried to steal it at my wife’s condo basement and sawed through the frame seat and frame. I then lent the battery to my friend who killed it in a month riding in Montreal during the winter. I had an MX tire/rim on the back and Fox 40 shocks on the front with Shimano Saint brakes and I rode all four seasons over here in Canada. If I were to build a quiver to keep up with my young MX sons, I would get both along with a KTM electric free ride bike. The Stealth is in a class of it’s own, mostly due to the sequential shifting in the Suntour system. Everyone would ask me what it feels like to ride the Stealth and I would tell them it is similar to your best day downhill mountain biking and your best day riding a time trial road bike with elements of MX all mixed into one. The only issue I have with the Stealth is that it isn’t entirely weather proof, I had a ton of failures over the years and had to get flat deck towing trucks to pick me up. And of course, no one in their right mind would keep the stock rear tire/rim. Those tires wear out in weeks of hard riding. I like the Sur Ron because there are guys who are keeping up with MX guys and riding in snow/wet conditions in Idaho. With the Lightspeed upgrades, I could probably hold my own with serious 450 MX guys or my 5 year old son on level six of his Husky EE 5!

[@MrHqyang]

sounds you havent tried the surron yet, the only issue with me on surron is its too small and wheel base a bit short. I havent tried the stealth, hope got a chance later

[@BWT599]

@@MrHqyang Yah I haven't tried the Sur Ron yet, considering the Sur Ron X with the Lightspeed addition. My son is on a Husky EE 5, so as he gets better, level 6 is pretty dang fast and it would suck to lose him in the woods! But it would be nice to keep up with my friends on 450s in the woods, or to accompany my son at the MX track where they have single trail areas in a forest. I do have two high end electric skateboards but I definitely won't be able to keep up on my mountain bike anymore (I could keep up with my son on his Stacyc 16 Brushless MX training bike). Here's to lockdowns! I have my MTB on an indoor trainer and I ride MX trails virtually on my bike. Been a great way to follow someone riding Altas at full speed enduro Mx style or that guy with the Sur Ron in Idaho, while pedaling and steering on my MTB. My MTB is then linked to another video that provides trail resistance via bluetooth to my bike trainer. Surprisingly it has been awesome and before I know it I burned 500 calories in an hour.

[@ebperformance8436]

I hate bike thieves….My kit came with a alarm, ignition key’ easy to hot wire, and the system locks the back wheel when the alarm is activated, if it’s being tampered with, it notifies my phone, so I can bust the scumbag in the act….I also have a small IPhone clip chip to GPS track the bike. So they will need to cut two U locks…and endure a load alarm….and back wheel that’s not gonna spin…two ppl and a Truck will be needed….I wish I could booby Trap it to shock the shit out of the E-bike thief.

[@BWT599]

@@ebperformance8436 Dang! I will need to put some serious security on my new Electric Motion Escape R I am expecting.

[@ebperformance8436]

@@BWT599 E-bikes are sought after all the time….it’s like music to Bike thieves….unfortunately even good security won’t save it from being butchered….if you don’t get to it in time…..this is why I hate E-bike thieves.

[@standupmoto]

After owning & riding the 20 model B52 for the last 12 months I love it, it has handled everything I have thrown at it with no problems at all. It’s expensive but trust me it’s worth it and 2nd hand resale is crazy high if you want to sell it , thanks for the video.

[@rolux4853]

Nothing with a damn hub motor is worth more than 2000$. It’s ridiculous they sell this piece of outdated tech and people are so stupid to buy it. The Motor needs to be in the Center of the bike to have good jumping and off-road abilities. Put that gear hub in your backwheel and the bike gets so much better. Every better eMTB gets this right, why can’t this „motorcycle“ company can do it? Ah yeah I forgot, they want to get maximal profit with minimal investments.. But if you have fun with it and don’t jump much or go heavy off riding, more power to you and enjoy your ride! Having fun is the only thing that matters in the end!

[@cosmicyt955]

@@rolux4853 bro calm down it’s good

[@rolux4853]

@@cosmicyt955 yeah you’re right, it seemed I was hungry when I wrote that comment, my apologies. But my point still stands, hub motors are a big no no no. Put the damn motor in the front triangle and the bike feels so much better. Don’t be a cheap and lazy mf dear bike company. If you do it, do it the right way and don’t exploit your customers!

[@Itsudemo1]

@@rolux4853 Each has their pros and cons. I own a powerful mid drive and hub drive. Hub wins in reliability simplicity and commuting. Mid is best for off road, handling and torque. 10k is not worth for such system but something like b52 clone or DIY kit is definetly worth it.

[@blacklight4460]

@@rolux4853 Hub motors can have regen and are smooth and quiet wth no drivetrain stress. They still rule on the street.

[@ChristopherRadoff]

I'll take two sur rons and 2k still left in my wallet all day.

[@ianmangham4570]

All day

[@RogueLegend999]

It's costs $3.5k to build the stealth with even more power than the stealth in this vid

[@johnnyg8548]

@@RogueLegend999 have a parts list?

[@RogueLegend999]

@@johnnyg8548 I will post the parts I bought with links and prices soon. Hoping to make a build video too

[@RogueLegend999]

@@johnnyg8548 in the meantime, This guy's video description has a parts list. Few differences than mine. For examples he has high speed motor I have high torque (acceleration) motor. His is 72V mine is 96V. His fork is Zoom, mine is an actual dirt bike fork. But his bike is almost the same as the "$10,000" bike. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2TReWdvhp2lgbc

[@WhiteBoyChevy]

I can't believe how far they go and how fast they are its bad ass plus the skill you have shows you can do anything on them

[@johnphillip6328]

For the price No one is buying stealth bomber

[@stevenvialpando8365]

@Jye Visser fun as........? Fuck the word you were missing was Fuck 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[@arunbains9930]

my dad bought it :) its amazing

[@wobblypops6251]

10 grand LOL ed bassmaster be like PSH

[@Rivaboyz1987]

Alibaba.com do a clone 8000w 72v 75mph exactly the same £2500

[@BeauMcKee]

Australian made

[@johnnyvssuper732]

Dope content... I would take the SurRon tho... price and what you get for the price is a NO brained....

[@Youneverknow100]

you can build a better b52 clone for the price of the sur ron

[@antoneckhart6004]

@@Youneverknow100 how is it done? Please give me some pointers and parts sites etc?? Thank you.

[@Youneverknow100]

@@antoneckhart6004 start with alibaba, look up (NBPOWER EBIKE KIT ) i get all my stuff from them , their motors and frames are legit as anyone's, come with sabvoton controller, mine is 5kw nominal 12kw peak with a 72v battery 48ah. total build cost for around 3300

[@antoneckhart6004]

@@Youneverknow100 I have been looking at that site. How about there complete bike the 8000w ?? Yeah so much stuff on that site looks good. I really want to buy a complete bike on there, incase I get stuck building it. Or should I just buy parts? How much is the delivery to the EU? Thank you!

[@Youneverknow100]

@@antoneckhart6004 I mean idk..it may only cost 3500 but shipping prob another 4 to 600

[@JonoZaidi]

The ADF (Australian Defense Force) are actually planning to use these and they are wanting to issue it to special forces and other reconnaissance units because of its light weight and it’s electrically powered along with the stealth it has with its low noise

[@mattspooner9001]

Its silent ..I have one ...amazing

[@amd7267]

Not lightweight about 60kg

[@WillKruger-xw8nd]

@@amd7267 When he says that it's lightweight, he means relative to a heavy troop transporter or whatever else. It's absolutely lightweight, get a clue

[@sigmaoctantis_nz]

I think for most people either the Sur-Ron or the Enduro frame with a custom set up will be better value over the Stealth B52. I do think it's cool how Stealth have integrated the gearbox so you can pedal at high speed but I'd be happier with an e-moto setup without pedals. You can make those Enduro frames super quick with high power controllers which is more appealing to me. Of course the Sur-Ron also has those options too but then you have to buy the base frame too. Maybe you can sell the old controller and battery though. One of the main things I don't like about the Sur-Ron is the sound it makes, it sounds like a really loud remote control car. It's also a bit small for taller people like myself.

[@SRNAR8]

??? Stealth B52 is a bike from 2015-16 times, It was worth 10k then cause it was the fastest in the market. Idk about surrons, they are harder to modify as their motors are tiny and overheat real quick.

[@Mr.Robert1]

@@SRNAR8 The reason they cost for money it's because people get paid more money in Australia than in China simple

[@SRNAR8]

@@Mr.Robert1 It is also better quality and released at a time where it was the only high powered ebike. Idk what drugs you on, but 10k isn't bad for

[@mattspooner9001]

@@Mr.Robert1 Why dont you listen to their motors ...The Stealth is silent , quicker etc etc ... Sssshhhh... No comparison .... and yes I have one ...

[@looking_33]

@@SRNAR8surron has astonishingly great quality, overall

[@-joo3033]

Stealth has been making these High power E-bikes for years before SurRon came along...

[@therealrobbycrash]

So?.....

[@pineappleproductions9438]

For those wondering what the difference is between the real stealth bomber and the clones is that the real bomber has petal assist up to the fastest speeds, and for the clones, you can only petal up to a certain speed (30mph I believe) and then it’s just all throttle

[@tuftuf7257]

I like both of the bikes but, if i have to choose, then i'm taking the B52 (not that i have 10k to spend)

[@archiej6386]

3:24 both bikes are fast enough to ignore rules of the roqd

[@rayva1]

There will always be an upgrade in these e-bikes. Next thing you know, 10k will be more like 7k or less.

[@99albo99]

If you compare it to a top of the line e-mountain bike, 10k is cheap. That's truly unfortunate...

[@kashtonscustoms]

Hell nah 6 more grand for 2 mph 😂😂

[@AtomicB-zq2cw]

The differences between an adjustable saddle over a seatpost is an absolutely huge difference between these bikes. The surron only fits short people. You have to understand the biomechanics of riding positions. Along with the pedals, the difference makes these two bikes completely incomparable.

[@axelgranzini6797]

Exactly, one is a premium e bike the other is a baby electric dirtbike. Very different

[@mattspooner9001]

@@axelgranzini6797 yes I got mine yesterday ....Wow

[@allanshpeley4284]

You can get a seat riser for the surron. Also, the 4M body kit/seat raises you up 0.6" and you can buy thicker foam to bump that up more.

[@djsoundzebikelife4314]

That pedaling at 50mph is crazy right! 👊

[@thestreetrat3660]

not as cool as 'not' pedalling at 50 mph though..

[@len9483]

@@thestreetrat3660 Word.

[@CloroxGodThe1st]

@@thestreetrat3660 it chills at 50+ while not pedaling.

[@DNToquer]

I got both bikes. One thing I want to mention is the Surron comes with a horn and light. The B-52 doesn't. TL;DR Surron is the way better value of course and will be the bike for most people. The only reason I got the Stealth was the independent gearbox for the pedals. And the fact a dealer near me had it in stock, otherwise it would have been a multi week wait. My impressions of both bikes: (Wall of Text) Fenders: Surron came with a strap on fender for the front fork. Rear has a bit down below to reduce stuff getting flung at the suspension and a bit on the seat that kinda helps but my back would still get dirty. Stealth came with 0 and is honestly annoying. In addition the seat support has a hole and dirt/water can get flung up onto the mid section of bike not to mention the rear suspension and your back. It needs aftermarket solutions for dirt/water if you off road in messy conditions. Pedals: The Surron does have a pedal kit but it's stupid as hell. It is definitely an afterthought. And you can't use belt drive if you go that route. (I got belt drive initially on my Surron) You only have a single gear ratio and the seat height isn't adjustable so pedaling the thing is a PITA. But in some places you need to do it to be a legal bicycle. The Stealth has a much better pedal system. Gears 6-8 would be most useful on flat terrain. Gear 9 is when you want to add power at 25+ mph. 1st Gear is actually pretty useful to pedal up inclines. The shifting is pretty easy and has nice audible clicks. Plus you can switch gears without rotating the pedals. You shouldn't shift under heavy pedal load though. The chain doesn't have a guard so you got a be careful. I had baggy pants one time and the gear ate it up. I don't like how easy it is to change gears though. On rough terrain I have accidentally shifted gears. Height: Surron is way lower to the ground. On the Stealth I had the cut the seat down and I am still way higher up. I've heard people complain the Surron is too short and to me the Stealth is too high. Suspension: The suspension on the Surron came much softer. It felt way easier to move the bike up and down. The Stealth probably has a bit stiffer suspension because of the rear hub motor. Both have adjustable suspension though. Throttle Control: Surron has a full throttle handle and it works since you are most likely sitting solidly on the seat and resting on foot pegs. It also easily adjusts to the two preset power settings. Stealth has a half throttle and it takes some getting used to but I think it works with this bike. On rough terrain I'm mainly resting weight on the pedals and keeping my body off the bike seat. This would make throttle control very challenging if it wasn't a half throttle. Regen Braking: Surron basically has two regen modes out of the box. Econ has full regen and Sport barely any if at all. You basically use the throttle and ease off to get strong regen. Stealth has a big red button on the left side that activates full regen. I feel like Suron has better regen at lower speeds. Stealth seems to have no regen at ~16mph. Electronics: Surron has the little display on the left handlebar that shows current speed. Battery power is shown on the batter display on the midsection of the bike. It does have an odometer. Stealth comes with more sophisticated electronics. They also have a weird feature where you need to install a jumper on the electronics or the bike resets every time it's powered off. The default display shows battery, speed, and odometer. The next menu shows stats like temperatures, battery cycles, and a couple other bits of info. The third menu changes the settings of the bike. This is where you can switch from Eco mode and Competition mode. Unfortunately Eco mode is non adjustable but Competition is. Competition mode goes from 100w to 6.2kw and 25-90(lol) mph. I really like being able to adjust power because I can lower it to 100w and use it to assist going up stairs and offset it's 100lb weight. There is also the anti-theft code requirement that can be turned off or set to require a code every 1 day to a year. Battery: One thing I want to mention is the Surron's battery is super easy to access and take in and out. It could be useful to have multiple batteries and being able to swap them out for a long riding session. You just use the key to unlock the top hatch. Flick the breaker off and unplug two sets of wires and you can yank it out. Stealth needs an allen key wrench to take off the side panel to access the internals. Sound: Idk if it's just my bike or not but my Surron was a lot louder than I was expecting even with belt drive and at lower speeds ~12mph it had a noticeable cyclic noise to it. Stealth, like it's namesake would suggest was way quieter. I have accidentally startled pedestrians on the sidewalk. However, idk why the hell the Stealth is so damn expensive. Lots of people online have built their own similar bikes for way cheaper. Almost all seem to miss the gearbox though. The only reason I went Stealth was for full front and rear suspension, a high performance electric drive system, and a good pedal experience with a gearbox shifter. (Because I have started to hate derailers) I can use it in rough terrain and on the sidewalk and no one (Karens) will question me since I have pedals. The design of the Stealth is eye catching but it looks more like a regular bicycle than the Surron. Surron is a great e-moto with a terrible pedal add on and Stealth is a great bike with nice electronics. I would say Surron is mainly for off road use and can cheat a bit if you absolutely have to have pedals while Stealth is more for normal bike use that can go off road. Other places like Vector e-bikes and Qulbix have similar or better performance AND are cheaper. My only problem with them is their pedal options are either single gear setups or have a derailer.

[@GaiusGarage]

Stealth Bomber is waaay overpriced - you can build your own for a third of the cost and more power. Mid-drive on Surron is a major advantage for off-road but lack of pedals is a disadvantage for street riding since it's basically a motorcycle no one is gonna register or insure. Surron with 72V battery & BAC8000 controller is a beast tho! really a matter of what your preference and application

[@joeybassbass]

They do sell pedals for the Surron, they're just not included

[@HansWendlandcreative]

I have been riding the TSealth B52 for over 2 years and there is absolutely NO comparison, the Stealth is superior in every way and a huge difference in quality!

[@alexrudner5548]

I tried Stealth B-52 as test ride. Impressed me too much. It,s dear but it.s like Harley and Yamaha of cruising bikes.

[@mattspooner9001]

Amen

[@cyumadbrosummit3534]

I have both of these bikes and I find myself taking the Stealth more often.

[@RogueLegend999]

Makes sense. I'm currently receiving parts for my stealth build. QS 205 50H 5T V3 SVMC96120 26S 96V 25AH Peak 125A Motorcycle forks 800mm Motorcycle RPM Hydraulic brakes Mitas E-07 100/90 × 19 Front & Rear

[@i_like_to_ruin_jokes1099]

@@RogueLegend999 how much did u buy the parts for

[@RogueLegend999]

@@i_like_to_ruin_jokes1099 For my build I bought the motor without a wheel because I had planned to put it on a fat bike. But when I received the motor I realized that fat bike can't handle the force of this motor. So I had to order motorcycle rims, spokes and tires separately. If you're doing this, I recommend you buy the motor already laced in motorcycle 19" wheel. Total cost of *MY* B52: (includes shipping) Frame £220 Rims £145 Spokes £50 Front hub £20 Tyres + Tubes £140 Battery Cells + Nickel + BMS £550 Spotwelder £35 Charger £80 Motor £350 Controller £330 Motorcycle Fork £140 (Alibaba) Handlebar £30 Brakes £100 Throttle £10 Lights £20 Handlebar Heating £10 Crankset + Chain £50 Kickstand £25 Seat £20 Total Cost of MY B52: £3305 Could have saved money if I didn't order for the fat bike initially. There are suppliers on Alibaba (not aliexpress) that sell all the parts together as a package. It may have saved around £300 that I spent for shipping parts individually. Good luck!

[@peterah7957]

Great! Give me the one you do not use that much!

[@SharkTheatre]

@@RogueLegend999 Yeah I'm buying the complete set with all the parts on Alibaba for like 3050USD and that's with shipping. Its gret price. Its fort 12kw qs273 v3 3.5t

[@chewysofa550]

"uh oh stop sign" famous last words of someone who just a stop sign

[@GardenGateLawn]

Thanks for the comparison video. For the money. I will keep my sur-Ron.

[@batmanofinglewood]

Wow! I predicted this when I asked you to ride/ willie my bike last week. Something IMMEDIATELY told me you would ride someone else's bike. I'm NOT salty about this of course, its just a sign that I really have power to speak things into existence. 😶 I still gave a like👍🏾 You are still the man😎

[@justgo4033]

The b-52 seems better but more than double the price is a bit much . I would love a suron , I already ride downhill mountain bikes and live close to the Canadian rockies . Both of them seem like so much fun .

[@callumcoyne5850]

Also its horrible the bomber I've seen them self secound hand for 3 grand

[@dyrectory_com]

Smile machines for sure! You guys had too much fun! 👏🏻

[@albernard180]

With that extra 6k you can mod the shit out of suran to hit 100mph+

[@jaythomas5521]

How?

[@usayoungnostradom3534]

I definitely got to get an upgrade I just got my first e-bike and the power is no match for these two beasts....... now after watching this video I could tell you the B-52 is the solution for the job that needs to be done whether it's a long commute or out performing 125cc dirt bikes and even possibly 250cc dirt bikes depending on the ride, 6200 w incredibly light so much power what a truly amazing speed competition also also is just as quiet as a mouse excellent for a heightened sense of awareness which in return gives you more confidence to break the bike speed barrier avoiding some douchebag rapping the engine while running the stop sign🚸🏁🇺🇲🤫✌😎🥇

[@mostwantedpakbusu]

SURRON is an Electric Motorbike STEALTH is an Electric Bicycle (because it has pedals)

[@ashtianresburg5349]

So can a sur ron lol theres ba pedal kist

[@bmoney1488]

Imagine buying an electric bike when you could be flying in a paramotor above the clouds for the same price.

[@gixxerfixer1358]

Riding a bike always makes me smile great video 👊😎

[@brandonwc]

I don't know anything about e-bikes, but it' looks like they're really coming along nicely. The cheaper one looks much better though. Would like to see a version of that with the more expensive electronics of the faster bike.

[@Cobalt985]

These aren't legally ebikes basically anywhere. These are electric motorcycles. Their motor power is far too high to be considered an ebike by any country that has regulations on them, including my home country of Canada. The technology is basically the same, but the distinction is important because, well, these guys are blasting through stop signs and drifting across lane markers and frankly I don't want the ebike community to be associated with this kind of dumbfuckery. Would bet money that these aren't insured too.

[@ebperformance8436]

@@Cobalt985 the worst ones are the ppl who’s zooming down sidewalks….at 40+ mph.

[@mattspooner9001]

No ....The Stealth is ..Silent ... Its the Tesla of all Bikes ... Trust me

[@jf9979]

The stealth bomber isnt made for bums. Components are superior on every level. All high end. You get what you pay for.

[@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_]

You also get a 20kg rear wheel, have fun doing jumps or technical riding.

[@theskyisdead]

"Watch how fast you teleport" LMAO FUCKIN KILLED ME

[@Gavin-jc5bw]

If the STEALTH B-52 had a seat like the SURRON X I would love it, but it's still dope.

[@beezzeus001]

Where the Escapade Rampage ebike at? Definitely would be in the same class. Hits 65 mph in a blink of an eye 🤙🤙 It's only $4k!

[@morgulusthetrollslayer6672]

One main problem with bomber, or any similar builds is their hub motor - it won't last long on offroad, and it makes suspension kinda useless bc of motor's mass

[@rambo4768]

You preped me for my 22 Live Wire thanks brother 👊😎

[@revolutionaries007]

I know u made the cam like this for and added sense of speed but it would be nice to see it normal too.

[@Mayhemjach]

So happy I never bought a b52 years ago. Lol. Segway all day.

[@lukejames778]

Cough cough couldn’t afford it cough cough

[@rajgill7576]

@@lukejames778 we're all living the bougie life if we're considering e bikes lol

[@lukejames778]

@@rajgill7576 you ain’t wrong my brother, money well spent. No tax mot insurance fuel the dogs bollocks

[@the7thofengland135]

@@lukejames778 lol who in there right mind would pick a tiny Segway over a b52

[@rajgill7576]

7:45 "Ohhh my godd ahahahah" is my new ringtone brah

[@cjd3248]

No comparison B52 for me without question and it’s quality built.

[@MrCsebike]

You can get the 1500 watt enduro kit for less than both of them top speed of 65 mph before upgrades . That's what you should vs video with.

[@ptescreen18]

Sur Ron all day long, mines amazing

[@bellaggio1770]

I wish it had more range and a bit more power, but mostly more range.

[@Boxbeat666]

@@bellaggio1770 get a battery with better cells think Sony do so really good ones now

[@Later_Nerd]

The Sur Ron is so so much cooler looking. Which definitely matters when the rest of the specs are so similar.

[@yma9852]

The specs are similar? are you watching the same video I am? The one where the stealth bomber smokessssss the Surron?

[@lushstudio3570]

WAU cyber bike coming out soon, it has a range of 120 miles so it's better than these two you're reviewing but I think the Delfast top 3 smashes all of these out the water with its 200 mile range, top speed of 50 or 70 mph (can't remember). I'd love to see all four compared to each other in a drag race, range test, hill test, getting g some off a ramp, dropping of a platform and ridden down a flight of stairs

[@SuperBenjamin1965]

Have A Recon 20 kw hub motor goes just lightning fast it's good to know you can control the speed and have the weight behind you very aerodynamic for the size motor handle superbly going down a dirt trails very quick it's good to have the regenerative braking more power than you need on strait away as well up hill amazing the technology that has come out go anywhere two wheels will take you 👍

[@TheGreatest1974]

These must be made legal everywhere in the world immediately.

[@neogator26]

I like the ads on the B-52 but for getting into 5 figures I'd go Zero FX all the way. Since I just watched your video riding a Zero for the first time I'm betting you'd agree. lol

[@qrs3658]

good video. at the end of the video you should have done a conclusion on the experience based on the ride. also another quick review of the specs and price woulda been helpful too. (just a reiteration)

[@LordLoMR2]

The Surron is probably better off road because of the mid drive motor. Bomber - Hub motors are heavy and don’t really like to be jumped; too much sprung weight.

[@charlie147111]

Sur Ron , seems like it’s easier for wheelies ?

[@SurRonster]

It is for sure

[@turretbarrage2707]

that Cherdleys fuccboi laugh, LOL.

[@3613jeremy]

There's something scary about something that does over 50mph and only ways 100 pounds

[@johnty505]

You should do this again. Only now STEALTH B-52 vs your 10k SURRON X ^^

[@joeschlong7633]

For how much they cost I’d rather get a actual dirt bike from Honda or something

[@Seth_Rogen]

Yea it just depends on where u live

[@Busterpeek21]

It's interesting. Big disadvantage not having peddles. Something to really consider when choosing a bike, I'd say.

[@robras2850]

Especially with all the strict rules being put in place over the globe

[@UnknownUser-hd6nx]

Okay so what your saying is that for the price of a Sur-Ron I can buy a Honda grom fresh from the showroom floor as well as an aftermarket exhaust and clutch and break levers and for the stealth b-52 I can buy a Yamaha R1 second hand

[@vanjamasic7384]

3:15 these guys are living the dream

[@katiekumcgil]

when it comes to pedaling the sir ron ,is like a kids pedal bike compared to stealths pinion gearbox,the electronic shifting kits for pinion are pretty sweet too

[@hyperxmilo4205]

i have a stealth bomber and a stealth fighter. and i can say that the bomber is a really good bike but i had a lot of problems with the battery.

[@katiekumcgil]

with the stealth,it has a huge amount more speed and torque headroom with just a simple controller config, either buy usb bt dongle or usb to pc cable with software, the controllers can set up flux weeking ,power and torque curves the list of configs is huge .

[@thestreetrat3660]

The SurRon is 60v nominal (and 67v max), The Stealth is 84v max (72v nominal) though so its still a huge boost in power. The SurRon is pretty much 50/50 weight distibution front axle to rear axle so its super well balanced and can climb some crazy inclines.. I don't have scales, but the Stealth is definitely heavier in the rear and won't climb what the SurRon will. The Stealth gearbox is really good quality, but probably adds a few grand to the total price, so since the bike pretty much never comes out of 9th gear unless you're in sand, or out of battery (then you'll need 1st gear), it seems like a waste of money for a heap of gears you'll never use. I couldv'e sworn the Stealth was about 6lbs heavier too? If they were the same price, I'd still pick the Sur-Ron. They probably are the same price once you go 72v upgrade anyway. That's where it's at! 72v!

[@Bananpelikan]

You must have the same tire and tire pressure, The tire would be a huge factor. also riding position/height of rider would affect at top speed race.

[@leeepps239]

Sur Ronster Don't Feed In To The Negative Comment !! You Enjoy Your Life At Your Finest .. Just Do You .. ( Smile )...

[@SurRonster]

👊💯 my man

[@leeepps239]

@@SurRonster You Not Annoying ..

[@SurRonster]

@@leeepps239 🥲 thank you

[@sn0wchyld]

Stealth has a 2kwh battery, so less than 32ah.... more like 28. But the stealth has been around for like 10+ years, they've done some upgrades over the years but these days they're a bit out of date, and hubs generally suck off road, had both (though an upgraded fighter vs a bomber) and the surron is the better at the moment unless you want pedals or something more quiet. Way more potential with some upgrades too on the surron - by the time your 10k into a surron it'll kill the stealth in a heartbeat. But thats built/designed in china vs built/designed in the west (australia) for you.

[@WhiteSkyMage]

@Sur Ronster I'm actually building a custom Stealth Bomber Ebike with a 6kW mid-drive motor (Lightning Rod Big Block) and a 72v 51Ah battery (nominal). It is actually using Sur ron wheelset. In addition it has: Variable regen brake; Pedal assist; A street-legal light system (although im not getting a number plate); KTM Headlight, USB 3 charger plugs; 2x hydraulic disk brake rotors on the front + 1 rear brake rotor; 219H single stage drive train with 8 : 1 ratio (theoretical 210N.m. total torque) Frame is made by Eleek and it is sturdy, but a little on the heavy side 🤔 I hope I can get at least 80 miles of range, i have some stupidly long trips planned and it us possible ill be charging on the road...

[@juliantrresblomberg7430]

The only video that doesn’t have a intro.

[@carlozanoletti8051]

Cmon! Almost 3k subs 🙌🙌🙌

[@angusmcgil]

these 52 if the controllers are upgraded to the bac 4 or 8 thousand they turn into a whole another beast and torque levels also skyrocket 70-80 mph is pretty acheiveable

[@17PAT17]

Could buy the Surron upgrade the battery and the Control module. Would have triple the power of the other one and would still be $5000 cheaper

[@martinharper3633]

Guys if u look around the stealth bomber works out cheaper building it and with custom parts

[@JacuzziSurfer]

YES! That B-52 is Sick! BUT, No way I’m selling my SurRon!

[@SurRonster]

Well put 💯

[@StreamerTV]

@@SurRonster Where did you get the chest strap from pls? Want to buy one..

[@bendover3820]

I like the smell of gas and exhaust, but love the options too. there is a place for all..

[@crimeworld6214]

For the people saying that the bike is to expensive Some mountain bikes are like 12k just happen that it’s expensive

[@rawvisions7592]

YEAAAAA I really want a Suron cause of price but I can’t cause the cops in Australia are like grannies so I need to get a stealth

[@bradley3549]

You can put pedals on a Suron too.

[@rawvisions7592]

@@bradley3549 they dont really work that well tho its stuck in a really low gear

[@bradley3549]

@@rawvisions7592 clearly they aren't meant to be used - just a way to get around legal requirements.

[@stevenschulte1475]

You can't ride either on the road in Australia.

[@rawvisions7592]

@@stevenschulte1475 stealth is Australian brand and you can ride Suron on road I have a mate who rides one to uni

[@alexrudner5548]

I tried Stealth B-52 as test ride and impressed me too much. I cannot buy it . But I don't think other E bike can impress me so. It.s like Harley Davidson and Japanese cruisers. I like Harley Davidson more. Thanks for video

[@philclfc77]

Stealth smokes the Ron’s all day

[@AURUMREGMI]

Much love from Nepal🇳🇵❤

[@SurRonster]

thanks dude! I lived in Nepal for 3 years. Kathmandu

[@AURUMREGMI]

@@SurRonster MUCH LOVE ADDICITED TO THIS CHANNEL

[@provocativepolitic]

cool offroad purpose bikes tested all onroad.

[@raymondharris6599]

AAAAAHHHGGG!!!!! OOOOHH MYYY GOD!!!!!!! I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want that B 52 Bomber... IMO that ebike is the closest thing to the ZERO FX MOTORCYCLE. Truth be told I want the Zero. But now that I've seen the Bomber; I now have the option of going ebike, or emotorcycle. Hands Down, this's the best ebike channel I've ever seen... GREAT, GREAT VID!!!🤙🏾👍🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@DeltaCmndrElite]

if your paying 10k get the zero lol

[@FarmerFpv]

Don't bother doing any serious offroading with the Stealth Bomber. IMO just buy the Sur Ron with the Ludacris Kit and it smokes the Stealth Bomber in acceleration Top speed and everything between for a 1/3 of the price. Also, the Stealth Bomber is old-school tech now.

[@raymondharris6599]

@@FarmerFpv Thanks for the heads up...🤙🏾

[@FarmerFpv]

@@raymondharris6599 You're welcome, hope you enjoy whichever you get, stay safe!

[@JamesFaction]

thumbs up just for all the noises made while riding fast. Looks hella fun!

[@finnmcmelon]

To that intro was fire ngl

[@spidartanks]

Good video. It shows Why would you buy the more expensive bike when Surron does it all and more probably

[@richleo999]

It’ll be different if you’re in a back road where there’s not a lot cars. Just concentrating on your move.

[@Pittsburgh-412]

What if the sur ron was fully upgraded with the bac 8000 and 4000 controller or whatever it is? I think that's the better way to go bro. Jack Cecils had his at 85mph or some shit crazy.

[@pandaexpresso]

The same spec and parts for Stealth from a-xpress is about $3k. They're overcharging but still has brand advantage from being one of the first good ones.

[@marcussmith4913]

ya but if you buy from A-xpress do you actually get the product you purchased. That site always seems suspect scams to me.

[@pandaexpresso]

@@marcussmith4913 It's true the tough part is discerning which sellers are legit. The exported ebike stuff from China has been somewhat reliable, especially if you DIY.

[@rickymahoney6664]

I actually like the look of the Surrun more and obviously I'm more comfortable with the price. Plus Im like 5'8 150lbs so I think the size would be perfect. I don't know much about e-bikes besides knowing I want one. My commute to work is like 10 miles and there's so many different ways I could go with one of these. I'd probably gets there faster than I would with a car which is crazy. There's a garage at work I could keep and charge it when needed. After reading alot of comments on different videos it's clear to me that theres alot i need to learn about.

[@matrix3125]

Surrons if u get the right battery or part it can hit around 100 mph

[@matrix3125]

in sport mode it hits 55 mph

[@morati1963]

Owned both. Sur Ron by a mile, especially offroad due to the heavy hub motor on the B-52. Have a full custom NYX thats 20lbs lighter than the Bomber and 11.5kw that would eat the Stealth!

[@bellaggio1770]

How much was the NYX ?

[@morati1963]

@@bellaggio1770 I built the NYX with what I thought were the best components (Fox suspension, Hope brakes, MXUS motor/Adaptto controller etc) so it was about $12k Canadian ($9.5k US) which was less then the Bomber

[@bellaggio1770]

@@morati1963 Holy cow, that's still $9.5k USD. Must be fun though, I can only dream of owning a machine like that, I can't justify spending that much even tho I could afford it. Planning to get a Sur-Ron at the end of the year.

[@morati1963]

@@bellaggio1770 Sur Ron = best bang for the buck!

[@CloroxGodThe1st]

Thats a hot ass lie. You definitely can't ride.

[@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes]

With less than 5k you can build a Bomber Style Ebike yourself much faster and more range than any of those, but DIY is not for everyone and demands a lot of work and a steep learning curve.

[@Turbowelding]

Yr making great vids bro. Keep up the good work. I think bang for ur buck surron all day long. But the bike seems great. Nicely done

[@bengrice2312]

spec-wise B-52 might be better but they coundn't put more money to making it look like it was thrown together in a garage? Sur ron looks like a professional product

[@kiyashko86]

In mountains: STEALTH is uncontrolled "brick" comparing to SURRON X, because it have a lot of weight on rear wheel. Definitely Surron is better with mid-drive, even if they both had the same price. Only street rider (without any jumps) can prefer STEALTH.

[@lesjayco7785]

Unless you know how to ride a stealth

[@kiyashko86]

@@lesjayco7785and don't know physics. You will understand after trying to pass some stairs or heavy road with each of them.

[@lesjayco7785]

@@kiyashko86 I’ve been riding and jumping a Bomber for seven years now. Not saying it’s easier than the Sur Ron, but by using the suspension and SPD pedals you can certainly lift the hub motor all you need to. And stairs are all about how quick you take them.

[@in7el773]

keep it up you're killing it!

[@Mackster30]

You need the battery hack for that Surron, it will gonfaster than that Stealth.

[@rgmeister5269]

Damn, I remember when you just had 200 subscribers.

[@jordangallemore]

7:18 que Star Wars Tie Fighter fly by noise lmao