RAMESSES II Had Kids With His Daughters: His Incestuous Family Tree Explained- Mortal Faces

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@MortalFaces
@MortalFaces 2 жыл бұрын
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@yokiryuchan7655
@yokiryuchan7655 2 жыл бұрын
"So imagine having a kid with your child" No, I'd rather not.
@tiffanybryant8296
@tiffanybryant8296 2 жыл бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽
@gailcurl8663
@gailcurl8663 2 жыл бұрын
And these Pharaohs were called "GREAT" I think Not!!
@Lonsoleil
@Lonsoleil 2 жыл бұрын
FFS, same here!
@jobes4525
@jobes4525 2 жыл бұрын
🤮🤮🤮
@shubh3ndu
@shubh3ndu 2 жыл бұрын
Sick 🤢🤢🤢
@almostclintnewton8478
@almostclintnewton8478 2 жыл бұрын
learning about these intensely inbred family trees is like watching one of those airplane crash investigation shows. its all truly fascinating in a horrifying kind of way
@sirwelch9991
@sirwelch9991 2 жыл бұрын
At least when you make these videos you are a lot more polite than others who covered this. And managed to accurately display the relations, so I thank you for your interest and decorum.
@QPRTokyo
@QPRTokyo 2 жыл бұрын
Really? See some of the other vids of this guy.
@sarahelliott3229
@sarahelliott3229 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. I watched a video on inbreeding in royalty from a creator called "The Shy Historian" and he seems anything but. The things he said were horrible and all out mocking any disabilities. Yes it's gross but a lot of these people were expected to marry within the family to keep the power in their bloodline.
@brandonsuavekilla2612
@brandonsuavekilla2612 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahelliott3229 I learned that the 19th dynasty was pushing towards the Medjay dynasty
@sirwelch9991
@sirwelch9991 2 жыл бұрын
@@QPRTokyo Which ones exactly?
@wewenang5167
@wewenang5167 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahelliott3229 Well every royal family in Europe also did that but i rarely see anyone have a problem with it. Even in old jewish law they were doing it, even now days, the PM of Israel Ariel Sharon's wife was his sister lol
@taquinmcmullen6490
@taquinmcmullen6490 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I lover history. These incestrous relationships are just gross 🤢
@eileenpritchard9154
@eileenpritchard9154 2 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL.
@sekichdawn3913
@sekichdawn3913 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed..makes me cringe
@jamiemohan2049
@jamiemohan2049 2 жыл бұрын
There is something especially disgusting about parent-child incest and sibling incest but parent child incest is one of the worst things.
@Propfaqs
@Propfaqs 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the gasps of horror when they saw the physical abnormalities in the children. Through peaceful times they designed and built monuments of mathematical genius yet could not add 2+2!
@lotuslicciardi5872
@lotuslicciardi5872 2 жыл бұрын
In those times it wasn't considered gross to marry ones kin. The royal family of GREAT BRITIAN is incestuous as well which is one of the reasons why they are physically unattractive.
@Loveoldies50
@Loveoldies50 2 жыл бұрын
This was the way they THOUGHT they were keeping the bloodline "pure." To me, it was a way to keep power and wealth in the family. That's why, in my opinion, all the "royals" of Europe kept the money and power, too. They didn't want to share their wealth or power with people outside their families, so they were all related in some way. That continues into today, and why William marrying Kate was such a big deal! She wasn't "family." But she had lots of money! I guess that made it okay.
@pamsharpe60
@pamsharpe60 2 жыл бұрын
I have my doubts about a marriage where the couple met and had a relationship, then split up for whatever reason. They then eventually got back together and as they say, the rest is history. The reasons why couples split up is a problem for me. You don’t split if you’re deliriously happy and hate being apart, do you? Are the problems still there? Who knows? Kate never looks particularly happy, but maybe that’s just the way she is. I’m English so I see a lot of them in the news.
@vintagegal541
@vintagegal541 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Keep the money and power within the family. I just watched a documentary on TubiTV about Cleopatra VII, THE Cleopatra. She was descended from one of Alexander the Greats Greek general's, Ptolemy. Alexander gave Ptolemy Egypt after it was conquered by him. The Greeks adopted the ancient Egyptian custom of incestuous marriages. Can't forget the most notorious European family to do this, the Habsburgs. Insanity and defects ran in that family. Mortal Faces did a great video on Marie Antoinette and her Habsburgs twisted family tree. I also saw a video, can't remember on who's channel, but William and Catherine are distantly related. I made a comment about being surprised about that and someone replied to me that most people in England are descended from some royal personage or another. Who knew?
@saraswatkin9226
@saraswatkin9226 2 жыл бұрын
@@pamsharpe60 Apparently they are related as fourteenth cousins.
@MortalFaces
@MortalFaces 2 жыл бұрын
William and Catherine's relation can be found at the end of my video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imKQoHpoZdWZaZY Marie Antoinette's Habsburg Family Tree: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWeVfIWooaqngbc
@Introvertsan
@Introvertsan 2 жыл бұрын
They are related they are distant cousins
@LisaG442
@LisaG442 2 жыл бұрын
Not just him, all Egyptian royalty did this. The only taboo relationship was a man marrying his mother, this was forbidden They believed it was through the royal women that the god’s blood flowed, but we’re not allowed to be Pharos. A common soldier if marrying a royal woman could secure claim to the throne, like Thutmoses the 1st. He was just a general
@karinschultz5409
@karinschultz5409 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right. Pharoahs were considered gods so the tradition of brother-sister marriage, was based on Isis and Osiris, who the were considered the first rulers of Egypt. The crown of Isis was the throne, so descent was via the female line. Hence the practice of Pharoahs marrying sisters and daughters was to keep control of the power in the family.
@spiritualknight704
@spiritualknight704 2 жыл бұрын
No don’t say all Egyptian royalty did this… not king hotep… the first ancient Egyptians were Nubian and practiced way different traditions than wyt and Arabic assimilated
@LisaG442
@LisaG442 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiritualknight704 interesting! Then they enslaved themselves? Because Egypt subjugated Nubia and extracted a levy of slaves every year from them.
@LadyCoyKoi
@LadyCoyKoi 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisaG442 In the Middle Kingdom Egypt was ruled over by Nubia. Though by the end of Middle Kingdom, Nubians were either enslaved or kicked out.🤔 Ancient Egypt was a fascinating part of human history, but also one of the most complex and confusing, due to the fact that all three kingdom looked identical. To put into modern US terms...it would be like 2022 would still have the technology and clothing from 1770s... nothing changed only expansion and building more. 😵 We are lucky that from 1900s into 2020s, which is 120 + years, we went from horses to space ships, letter carriers to internet, etc. Ancient Egyptians had 500 years between first and last kingdoms and yet their tech, clothing and practices never changed. 🤷 You think within just 100 years they figured out electricity and other advanced technology. One thing they were superior... they don't make a big deal over skin color as all of these Ancient Egyptian based videos always seem to attract stupid people starting race wars within the comment section about what the Ancient Egyptians looked like... as if the Ancient Egyptians cared about superfluous things like the color and shade of their skins.
@spiritualknight704
@spiritualknight704 2 жыл бұрын
@@LadyCoyKoi they obviously do care about their skin color because it’s in the paintings… it’s funny how you people assume so much about ancient Egyptians you must also assume they would agree for you to dig them up and repaint them as well? Or break off the noses from their ancient artifacts
@sarahrosen4985
@sarahrosen4985 2 жыл бұрын
The Hapsburgs watching jealously...
@albertvonhabsburg
@albertvonhabsburg Ай бұрын
Shut it!
@noragibson5293
@noragibson5293 2 жыл бұрын
I really admire all the research you have done for this program.
@MortalFaces
@MortalFaces 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ☺️
@joshuachalvarro1182
@joshuachalvarro1182 2 жыл бұрын
@@MortalFaces But why incest was so prevalent in Egypt?
@zwischenburkaundbikini2418
@zwischenburkaundbikini2418 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuachalvarro1182 1. To "keep the bloodline pure". 2. Princesses were not allowed to marry anyone bellow their status or foreigners (at least at this time). So mostly they had the "choice" between incest or not marry at all.
@HistoryfortheAges
@HistoryfortheAges 2 жыл бұрын
Very detailed explanation! I cover the story of Ramesses II in my lectures as well, but not to this detail. Always interesting to get my student's reaction when I talk about all his kids!
@MortalFaces
@MortalFaces 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@fungustheturd4004
@fungustheturd4004 2 жыл бұрын
Ramses II took very seriously the sentence “I’m my own grandpa”
@smavi4133
@smavi4133 Жыл бұрын
"Imagine having a kid with your child" GODDAAAMN, that's one hell of an intro!
@Lizablue0608
@Lizablue0608 2 жыл бұрын
This channel deserves MILLIONS of subs. It’s so interesting. 🧐 How untangling such twisted family trees takes pure genius. 💥
@NubianQueen100
@NubianQueen100 2 жыл бұрын
If you noticed most of them died fairly young, could be a result of their incestuous bloodline which could go on to cause all sorts of complications...
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Egyptologist777
@Egyptologist777 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that Nubians marry their cousins?
@NubianQueen100
@NubianQueen100 2 жыл бұрын
@@Egyptologist777 🤢🤮 Yuck...
@spirogiannaki
@spirogiannaki 2 жыл бұрын
@@Egyptologist777 Did you know that your royals do marry their cousins even today?
@長谷川恒男
@長谷川恒男 2 жыл бұрын
@@Egyptologist777 Marrying a second cousin (which is the category most cousin marriages fall into) would not result in any serious congenital defects since there is sufficient genetic variation between the 2 people. On the other hand the ancient egyptian practice of marrying first cousins, siblings and even offspring is just a recipe for disaster.
@vintagegal541
@vintagegal541 2 жыл бұрын
There you go again, Mortal Faces, untangling another tangled web. You are appreciated from this viewer! Have a great rest of your week!
@sekichdawn3913
@sekichdawn3913 2 жыл бұрын
That's not a family tree....that's a wreath.....my God!!!!!!
@Cristina-dv5ij
@Cristina-dv5ij 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I used to love ancient Egypt so much as a kid.
@emghee2510
@emghee2510 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being in 3rd grade and finding out what incest is because I checked out a book about King Tutankhamen from the school library.
@nancyorlando4127
@nancyorlando4127 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for such amazing history. also i do love your soothing voice. from boston, massachusetts usa
@MortalFaces
@MortalFaces 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@floraaficianado5050
@floraaficianado5050 2 жыл бұрын
Note to the creator of Mortal Faces: yours is NOT an easy task to pull off! Your approach and means to an end is truly with merit and absolutely spot on! For you to tackle the entire family tree breadth of Ramses II and come out the other end “smelling as sweet as a rose” says volumes about the depth of your knowledge of Egyptology! Kudos to you! I “know” of what I speak, as my dearest friend (who was privileged to spend time with several other colleagues in Pharaoh Khufu’s King’s Chamber, reciting passages from The Book of the Dead), is a close confidant of Zahi Hawass.
@MortalFaces
@MortalFaces 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words.
@floraaficianado5050
@floraaficianado5050 2 жыл бұрын
@@MortalFaces You’re welcome and deservedly so!
@joannasliwa8147
@joannasliwa8147 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting vlog. With all that DNA mix-up within one dynasty it comes as no surprise why they died so young. Greetings from Paris
@archeogeek315
@archeogeek315 2 жыл бұрын
You would think at some point they would realise this not a working strategy with all those kids dying. But no, it’s a wonder they lasted so long. Also greeting from Paris
@tiffanybryant8296
@tiffanybryant8296 2 жыл бұрын
And the defects .
@JorgeRodriguez-po7kx
@JorgeRodriguez-po7kx 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely 😁
@ashiinsane90
@ashiinsane90 Жыл бұрын
What is the proof of this? why every one mentions things and does not provide any source, wer not even sure of their real parents, so what makes you so sure??
@nancyorlando4127
@nancyorlando4127 2 жыл бұрын
also. i do love your down to earth dialogue making it easy for us common people to understand.
@MortalFaces
@MortalFaces 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@roderickreilly9666
@roderickreilly9666 2 жыл бұрын
BOY, THEIR KIDS MUST'VE BEEN GREAT BANJO PLAYERS!
@rebeccabishop2261
@rebeccabishop2261 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I would love to see a video on Henry V of England and his wife, Catherine of Valois. Her wood effigy carried at her funeral is at Westminster Abbey.
@bradlemmond
@bradlemmond 2 жыл бұрын
The way you phrased the opening made me think "What if he and his mother had a daughter, which would be his daughter and half-sister, and then he has children with that daughter/sister.
@lupine.spirit
@lupine.spirit 2 жыл бұрын
„And guess what, he died too“ made me laugh way too hard? 😂
@miranda7543
@miranda7543 2 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show that Royal have their own 'major's problem, mentally, physically, emotionally and social. It's like issues and trauma 1000x magnified. Hope that make sense. Gas lighting, abuse, incest, killing, torture was all consider the norm for aristocracy.
@LadyCoyKoi
@LadyCoyKoi 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my... the Habsburg got some competition here. 😵
@animeismydrug3011
@animeismydrug3011 2 жыл бұрын
No. They are distant second to Egyptians
@olliedwards8069
@olliedwards8069 2 жыл бұрын
The Egyptian pharaohs are more incesty than the Habsburgs, the Habsburgs didn’t have kids with their children or siblings
@marmaladeemma1080
@marmaladeemma1080 2 жыл бұрын
Have you done Vlad Tepes yet ? I'd love to see what he would have looked like in person 🤓
@matiusbond6052
@matiusbond6052 2 жыл бұрын
The pictures of Ramsses painted of him while he was alive are altogether different than those after his death.The AGENDA by Europeans is obvious.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 2 жыл бұрын
family meeting: "Who drew a bunch of circles in the family tree again?"
@sarahrosen4985
@sarahrosen4985 2 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahrosen4985 ty
@kingrama2727
@kingrama2727 2 жыл бұрын
I love the ancient Egypt videos…
@karenoberly2011
@karenoberly2011 2 жыл бұрын
I bet alot of research goes into your videos and I thank you.
@czgator9000
@czgator9000 2 жыл бұрын
That was considered normal in that culture. Tutankhamen was married to his sister, Cleopatra was married to her brother (who she had killed).
@share_accidental
@share_accidental 2 жыл бұрын
my favourite part was when he said 'let's get to the nasty' 😂
@ieynna09
@ieynna09 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say thank you for doing this great channel I enjoy history and something I didn't know and you teach us history that we don't learn in school thanks a lot. Keep posting 💪🏻
@memeteam2692
@memeteam2692 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if King Tut’s stillborn daughters had Turner’s syndrome since Tut’s gene pool was so damn small
@brianliew5901
@brianliew5901 2 жыл бұрын
Ramses's father could be his own brother and his first wife could be his own mother.
@KatarzynaWojciechowska
@KatarzynaWojciechowska 4 ай бұрын
When you said "imagine having a kid with your child," in my head there was Michael Scott screaming no. That's sick
@pecelirovucago7149
@pecelirovucago7149 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the details and your hard work! I will subscribe to your channel.
@jessicakaemery
@jessicakaemery 2 жыл бұрын
so technically he's his own cousin/sibling 🥲
@karenknicely1788
@karenknicely1788 2 жыл бұрын
UGH! You need a score card to figure this out!! I am obsessed with Ancient Egypt!!!!
@marleysmommy
@marleysmommy 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I've heard that I'm a descendant of Queen Liliuokalani from Hawaiian royalty. Could you do a video on Hawaiian royalty please? We all joke about how we Hawaiians are all somehow related, but after watching your videos, I hope it isn't true lol. Thank you! If anyone else has more info on Hawaiian royalty, I'd love to hear from you!
@flygirl4029
@flygirl4029 2 жыл бұрын
I would love a video over this topic! 💖
@averageamericangirl6819
@averageamericangirl6819 2 жыл бұрын
Hawaiians are extremely in red. There are still a lot of folks with hereditary issues due to this.
@marleysmommy
@marleysmommy 2 жыл бұрын
@@averageamericangirl6819 Really? Wow! It's not ever talked about so I never really thought about it till I saw this video. Hmm...time for me to start learning more about my culture
@Ikajo
@Ikajo Жыл бұрын
@@marleysmommy I do remember hearing it was common for brothers and sisters to get married, but that it was a practice mostly for royalty
@TerriPoppins
@TerriPoppins 2 жыл бұрын
My dna results (23andMe) claim that I have a direct link to Ramses thru my paternal line. Grandpa you’re gross 😆🤢
@sekichdawn3913
@sekichdawn3913 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that's true
@jamiemohan2049
@jamiemohan2049 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody who has living descendants from that far back in history is likely the biological ancestor of most if not all of humanity statistically. Also, all human ethnic groups are incredibly incestuous. Only in the west have we stopped marrying cousins. 50% of middle easterns, 25% of africans and 25% of east asians still engage in incestuous marriages.
@twomp5613
@twomp5613 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@sekichdawn3913
@sekichdawn3913 2 жыл бұрын
@@angellucasta1517 What exactly does that mean? Your bloodline doesn't link to Ramses, stop being ridiculous.
@TerriPoppins
@TerriPoppins 2 жыл бұрын
@@angellucasta1517 Heyy family 🤗
@sueamos3860
@sueamos3860 2 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting thank you
@randyherbrechtsmeier4796
@randyherbrechtsmeier4796 2 жыл бұрын
He Had Red Hair. It's still There. They DNA Tested it. Its Red!!!
@mattmcintosh3939
@mattmcintosh3939 2 жыл бұрын
Sure is
@RCSVirginia
@RCSVirginia 2 жыл бұрын
Randy Herbrechtsmeier Seti was a name ofttimes given to the sons of those who worshipped the god Seth as their preferred deity, and Seti I was the father of Ramses II. Egyptian writings refer to the "Red-haired worshippers of Seth" who lived in Lower Egypt in the Delta. So, red-hair was prominent enough in this group for it to have been noticed and noted by other Egyptians.
@elgoog7830
@elgoog7830 2 жыл бұрын
An Irish Pharoah?
@randyherbrechtsmeier4796
@randyherbrechtsmeier4796 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Irish Have BLACK Hair. Scots and Celts Have Red hair. The earliest Found is in Central Asia
@mattmcintosh3939
@mattmcintosh3939 2 жыл бұрын
@@elgoog7830 unlikely he was Irish. A more probable answer would be that Caucasian people were more widespread than just Europe in the ancient world. Scythians and Thracians were described by Greeks and Romans as being mostly red haired and they lived on the western steppes and modern day Bulgaria respectively. The Egyptians had at least one red headed god, Sett, and the Greeks and Romans had red headed gods and demi gods, including Ares, Athena, Aphrodite, Hercules and Achiles. Alexander the great was also a red head although it is argued he was blonde or strawberry blonde. Theres biblical references too, from the old testament, Adam and eve, Esau, king David, cananites etc. Even in more recent times the quran describes Muhammad as having skin as pale as alabaster and a red beard. All that says to me that red hair was quite prevalent in the people of southern Europe, Eurasia and North Africa in the ancient world and not just the fringes of Northern Europe like it is today. It's almost like the ancestors of those who live in those places now did the very thing to our ancestors that they accuse us of today.....funny that.
@xoxolovechristielynn
@xoxolovechristielynn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being mostly respectful and not making a huge joke out of this culture’s history like so many other creators do. It’s incredibly important to know the context of these people and their societies and beliefs because without the context it is unfathomable to us. Incestuous relationships were completely commonplace and it wasn’t done in a creepy or pedophilic nature like nowadays when you hear of incest. Especially the ancient royals, they believed they were keeping the bloodline pure, thus protecting the dynasty and the kingdom. So if we “imagine” doing what they did, it isn’t really fair because we only have our own knowledge and experiences to weigh against their behaviors and knowledge. They had no idea that incest caused any issues, and most people were married with children by their teenage years. It was as much about survival as it was about their spirituality. You know better, you do better. There are so many misconceptions about the ancient Egyptians and it’s a truly fascinating history that I encourage any and everyone who has an interest in history, anthropology, archaeology and even psychology to research.
@kelleymarina7933
@kelleymarina7933 2 жыл бұрын
I wish there were more written records that focused on the women and daughters in this equation, and how they felt about this gross ritual… do you think their conditioning made them unaware of the atrocities that they were subjected to? Or could they have carried considerable emotional trauma throughout their lives?
@masehoart7569
@masehoart7569 2 жыл бұрын
You are imposing pretty recent moral concerns on an ancient civilisation. As mentioned in another comment: There was only a matrilineal ascension to the throne. This of course led to the horrible preference for 1st grade female relatives as wives (only among royals). The first royal wife (the title queen did not exist) was the land, pharaoh ruled the land. Nonetheless, there were a few female pharaohs. The modern aversion against women in power simply did not exist, but you want to victimise women who basically had more rights, power & freedom than women do today - not only upper class women: Under native rule, women could run their own businesses, have their own properties. Virginity was not a hype. Weddings were not so super important rather a formal affair. There was an option for a temporary marriage. Women could get divorced any time and would keep their property. Women had access to all kinds of careers though unusual there were even a few female scribes - the and doctors- unusual because the eduction took decades … in addition, there were no “harems” but chenerets - the royal house of women - women were not locked up. and had lovers The performing arts were taught in the cheneret. Most of the food and cosmetics required at the court was provided by the cheneret. Rape was a crime throughout the milennia! Women’s rights in our “modern” Western societies are a new & still quite dysfunctional phenomena when compared to Egypt …to cut a long story short: Do your own research -
@marycanary86
@marycanary86 2 жыл бұрын
too modern of a lense to be looking at this through
@cutekoala5492
@cutekoala5492 2 жыл бұрын
Who's to say they weren't in on it?
@hayliedlr
@hayliedlr 2 жыл бұрын
4:47 she marries her brother uncle. I don't know why but that made me laugh hard🤣🤣
@snydedon9636
@snydedon9636 2 жыл бұрын
When your family tree has no branches it’s a problem.
@HugoFeunoyr91
@HugoFeunoyr91 Жыл бұрын
I laugh too hard with that one LOL.
@jaylo7426
@jaylo7426 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@anniebranwen4148
@anniebranwen4148 2 жыл бұрын
Must have been a shortage of men. Thanks for this video it's amazing how you have the names and who married who! great job
@jackdaniels2905
@jackdaniels2905 2 жыл бұрын
Rameses is number one. His muscles are number one. His legs are number one.
@YuzuruHakushaku
@YuzuruHakushaku 2 жыл бұрын
as an archaeologist I do not feel sick or I do not think any of these are evil because it was their culture a very accepted one even so yes in their concept it's OK
@mbmochinski
@mbmochinski 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was their custom, so there was no stigma. Of course it created so many genetic problems that it's a wonder that any had living children or children that grew to adulthood.
@YuzuruHakushaku
@YuzuruHakushaku 2 жыл бұрын
@@mbmochinski I suppose even that was usual and common so genetic problem was not important at all it was natural
@whatever4566
@whatever4566 2 жыл бұрын
just cause its culture does not mean its ok
@YuzuruHakushaku
@YuzuruHakushaku 2 жыл бұрын
@@whatever4566 but it dose if not we gonna enter cultural superiority which makes things more complicate. but of course from scientific perspective yes it was bad but they even did not care for their children's health problems so they were in a completely different world
@anonim4584
@anonim4584 2 жыл бұрын
@@whatever4566 Oh you're one of those people who thinks your culture is better than any other culture ...
@franceswalker2627
@franceswalker2627 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video. Can you do RAMESSES III? I am a direct descendant of this Pharaoh via my paternal line (through my father)
@tupacbarber8851
@tupacbarber8851 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. We're related👍😊
@patriciagriffith7402
@patriciagriffith7402 2 жыл бұрын
@@tupacbarber8851 😂
@Egyptologist777
@Egyptologist777 2 жыл бұрын
Ramses III bloodline died out. Find someone else.
@Egyptologist777
@Egyptologist777 2 жыл бұрын
@The Last Hasmonean Says the idiot racist who thinks Ramses III is a direct descendant of Ramses II 🤡
@immortalituss
@immortalituss 2 жыл бұрын
you are not. Haplogroyps dont indicate direct lineage
@jideakanji3145
@jideakanji3145 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the comments make me laugh saying it's gross but remember we are talking over3500 years ago when such practices were normal according to the thinking at the time,that is keeping the bloodline pure within the family.
@gailcurl8663
@gailcurl8663 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, do keep that Bloodline Pure, even when it involves Sex with Good Ole Dad.
@czgator9000
@czgator9000 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't until Queen Victoria's reign that they figured out close inbreeding had health consequences.
@jideakanji3145
@jideakanji3145 2 жыл бұрын
@@gailcurl8663 regardless,good ole dad is a product of his era and acts accordingly
@Lucylou7070
@Lucylou7070 2 жыл бұрын
@@gailcurl8663 Judging past civilizations by our standards is unwise because in the future we will be judged. We are not super civilized today either.
@jideakanji3145
@jideakanji3145 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucylou7070Very well said.
@fabiano6793
@fabiano6793 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@DevilFruit2000
@DevilFruit2000 2 жыл бұрын
"This is the part you've all been waiting for ThE NaStY" 🍑 💦 😂
@merbearlorelei
@merbearlorelei 2 жыл бұрын
When the family tree looks like a damn pretzel
@roseschrader6170
@roseschrader6170 2 жыл бұрын
love these...about Egypt
@SQUELCH-zj7il
@SQUELCH-zj7il 2 жыл бұрын
I feel sad for the daughters man. I know that they didn't have a choice
@jackierowell58
@jackierowell58 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please reconstruct Amenhotep II. (Amenhotep the Second). Archeological digs have been talking alot about him. Thank you so much for your consideration. Wonderful lineage map I rarely see. Thank you!
@bekahboop
@bekahboop 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel!! It’s neat to see
@matthewrosa7262
@matthewrosa7262 2 жыл бұрын
Could Someone Translate, In Ancient Egyptian, The Song "I'M MY OWN GRANDPA"?!
@zhenghao123
@zhenghao123 2 жыл бұрын
Just a question tho, how would you know if they are married and have children together? Cause in many cultures and kingdoms, Kings and Queens can be individual posts that does not necessary have to have any links with one another. For instance, in the South Indian Kingdom of Travancore, there will usually be one King (Maharaja) and two Queens (Maharani), the the Maharanis would usually be the Kings mother or sister. But they are not married to each other. In fact before British colonisation, the Maharaja and Maharanis would each have free relationship with other people which are not recorded. The King and Queens are merely political offices which serve a political and religious function. Children born from the Maharanis will simply seen as the King's children (heirs) as per the traditional of matrilineal family structures. Why wouldn't it be the case here? The Queen is merely a political position the father decided to instil on his daughters who do not want to be married and they had children to other men but their children are considered the children of their father. (In many cultures, like ancient Greece, Rome, Japan and China, it is completely normal for fathers who do not have a son to adopt the son of his daughter as his legal son). Especially since Egyptian had a lot of myths of the Queens being visited by gods and got pregnant by other people and the next Pharoh is not the biological son of the previous pharoh. It can be seen that Egyptian royal family can be somewhat matrilineal as well in this regards. You don't have to be married to have children you know. This is a very patriarchal and patrilineal read into history which see civilisation with the lens of a patriarchal family model. There are strong evidence that many native Egyptian society is deeply matrilineal and matriarchal so why wouldn't similar matrilineal family structure apply as well? For example the story of Moses, despite Moses being a child without any origins, he was readily accepted as a Pharaoh's son simply because he was adopted as the son of the Pharaoh's daughter. This is very similar to many matrilineal societies where children of the women of the household regardless of their biological fathers would be considered the children of the patriarch as per the Matrilineal Kingdom of Travancore and many other Matrilineal societies. www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9780429500534-2/matrilineal-reinterpretation-egyptian-sacred-cows-nancy-luomala www.researchgate.net/publication/291795606_The_Ancient_Egyptian_Family_Kinship_and_Social_Structure
@Rosa01010101
@Rosa01010101 2 жыл бұрын
God, please let this be true in ancient Egypt, the brother sister incest is icky enough already but somewhat understandable seeing it from their perspective to preserve the divine bloodline and whatever other nonsense, but the father daughter thing is too much to stomach even thinking of it from their perspective, what kind of father is willing to do something so horrible to his daughter? 🤢
@veronicajensen7690
@veronicajensen7690 2 жыл бұрын
because it's in the Egyptian written scripts, the same way we know their names-now it is know though a lot of Ramses 100 children or more we adopted, but that is made clear they way they write about them also, not all were named "son of" -they were found in Ramses II grave and that is how they know the number of children
@andreamaclachlan980
@andreamaclachlan980 2 жыл бұрын
Moses does indeed have lineage! He was a Hebrew/ Israelite. His parents are named, he has an older brother, Aaron, and older sister, Miriam. It was Miriam who kept watch over the infant Moses when his mother Jochebed hid him amongst the bullrushes, at which point Pharaoh's daughter saved him, recognised that he was a Hebrew child, gave him back to his mother to nurse and raise, and when he was of an age, he was taken to the palace to become 'son' of Pharaoh's daughter. He was then trained in all the ways of Egypt. He absolutely knew his heritage. It is said that he became one of Egypt's best army generals.
@seaztheday4418
@seaztheday4418 Жыл бұрын
Except they did genetic tests on the bodies of these families found in tombs, and they can confirm that they really were that inbred.
@KixverzEditz
@KixverzEditz 2 жыл бұрын
The Egyptian's from the past: *Sweet home Alabama*
@NIkki-ox1ej
@NIkki-ox1ej 2 жыл бұрын
Aaaaand there goes my dinner…….
@onefeather2
@onefeather2 2 жыл бұрын
Great information.
@waterbird91
@waterbird91 2 жыл бұрын
Appalling for any man to have over a hundred children. Disgusting. Speechless as to what length they would go to just to keep the power and wealth in their own family.The insect is appalling. Queen Victoria married her first cousin, which is like marrying your brother jyst to keep it all in the family. Evil at it's height.
@twomp5613
@twomp5613 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s evil it’s more like ignorance at it’s height they didn’t know how inbreeding worked back then so it’s not like there intentions were malicious.
@twomp5613
@twomp5613 2 жыл бұрын
Also keeping power in one family is incredibly important think about how many civil wars were fought due to there being more then one calamine to the throne
@zwischenburkaundbikini2418
@zwischenburkaundbikini2418 2 жыл бұрын
Queen Victoria married Albert out of love. Also, marrying your cousin is not NEARLY as bad as marrying your brother! A cousin is a distant relativ. It only causes problems if it happens in more than one generation in a row.
@AnonymousOneThree
@AnonymousOneThree 2 жыл бұрын
@@zwischenburkaundbikini2418 I know a guy who married his first cousin. They met for the first time as adults and just hit it off. They have two beautiful kids with no issues. It’s kind of weird, especially in this day and age, but I don’t think they ever had any problems from anyone and they’re happy.
@venuss.7218
@venuss.7218 Жыл бұрын
my brain was hemorraging looking at who is the aunt and half sister and who married who
@anghut1741
@anghut1741 2 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting and it’s really cool how you have given the information. Thank you :)
@jakubkuzminski5670
@jakubkuzminski5670 2 жыл бұрын
Super Film
@gecko-sb1kp
@gecko-sb1kp 2 жыл бұрын
I'm my own grandpa. Funny I know but it really is so...I'm my own grandpa...
@bobnewmanknott3433
@bobnewmanknott3433 2 жыл бұрын
Wow could fit right in with the southern states of America's evangelical Christians !
@TheGlobe7
@TheGlobe7 11 ай бұрын
the fact this dude casually calls Ramses the second "THE NASTY" is so funny
@Procopius464
@Procopius464 5 ай бұрын
Seems like in the beginning this dynasty learned from the previous dynasty that incest was bad, but when it comes to Ramesses II he decided to get back at it. In the end it ended up killing the dynasty.
@stephenwhitworth3151
@stephenwhitworth3151 2 жыл бұрын
You should explain *WHY* royal inter-marriage was a *COMMON* practice in Western and Eastern dynasties for millennia. If one looks at the Creation myths of ancient Egypt and other cultures, one finds that in the celebrated Ennead brother/sister unions (Shu/Tefnut; Geb/Nut; Osiris/Isis; Set/Nephthys) are quite common, as are father/daughter and mother/son unions (the *INTENSELY* intimate bond between Isis and Horus is almost certainly the model for the significantly later Christian enthroned Madonna/Child iconography). Royal incest obviously “kept royal blood divine and pure,” but, more importantly, it expressed the idea that All Creation was simply the Original One (Atum/Re) separating from himself to produce Creation and then rediscovering Himself over and over again.
@bobboscarato1313
@bobboscarato1313 2 жыл бұрын
When God created Adam and Eve, their sons and daughters also intermarried; the Bible doesn't mention there was more than one family in the beginning...Think about it!
@tiffanybryant8296
@tiffanybryant8296 2 жыл бұрын
Things were left out of the Bible 🤔 so . But you have a great point. Often thought of that one myself.
@karenD1998
@karenD1998 2 жыл бұрын
My boyfriend is Catholic and when we talk about Adam and eve he always says the bible is talking shit we ain't cousins 😂
@karenD1998
@karenD1998 2 жыл бұрын
He ain't a religious man
@aeternavictrix7861
@aeternavictrix7861 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t it Cain? Or someone who left alone and came back with a child or 2?
@citizencase17
@citizencase17 2 жыл бұрын
People were in a spiritually pure state then, so there could not have been any physical defects in the offspring.
@christinemuschiato5895
@christinemuschiato5895 2 жыл бұрын
when a commoner married a king she become royal as well as her own parents ; they did not have morganatic marriages . Also the succession was of divine origin ; the succession was ""given" by a dream ; the king dream the name of his successor and he could dream often through his life
@AmyMichelleMosier
@AmyMichelleMosier Жыл бұрын
Not a single comment here mentions that Merneptah is the king who reigned after Moses left Egypt. Google the Merneptah Steele. This is amazing.
@stelun56
@stelun56 2 жыл бұрын
This is why the priests decided to plan for the future - one that had more suitable rulers
@mriconoclast13
@mriconoclast13 2 жыл бұрын
I'm my own grandpa! (To be fair, "I'm my own grandpa" contained no actual incest)
@susannpatton2893
@susannpatton2893 Жыл бұрын
Phillip J. Fry
@AmericanMephistopheles
@AmericanMephistopheles 5 ай бұрын
🎵The man in gauze, the man in gauze, King Raaammseeeees!🎵
@darrelbryant8632
@darrelbryant8632 2 жыл бұрын
If I don't give a like to any of your presentations it doesn't mean I don't like what your are saying. I'm busy listening and doing other things at the same time.
@charm8167
@charm8167 2 жыл бұрын
Royal bloodline and the kissing the cousin’s, Elizabeth 2 and her late husband Phillip. I wouldn’t dream of marriage with a family member. Yuck 🤮
@Revitalization4241
@Revitalization4241 2 жыл бұрын
First cousin marriage isn't offcially counted as incest. Since they have 94% chance to get healthy offspring
@AnonymousOneThree
@AnonymousOneThree 2 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth and Phillip were third cousins.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 2 жыл бұрын
@@Revitalization4241 that’s true when it’s one time. But when you have generations of first cousin marriages the gene pool shrinks massively
@Dryhten1801
@Dryhten1801 Жыл бұрын
i bet you wouldnt know your third cousin if you fell over them in the street
@nikiisalucyfan
@nikiisalucyfan 2 жыл бұрын
FASCINATING..THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE BLOOD PURE SO THEY MARRIED WITHIN THE FAMILY
@garygullikson6349
@garygullikson6349 2 жыл бұрын
The long held concept of passing and preserving royal power by means of family relationships is hard for me to understand. There was no understanding of DNA or other science behind it.
@dgonthehill
@dgonthehill 2 жыл бұрын
wow heavy stuff, thnx, he was half crocodile half human (demi god), this pic not his REAL pic, good video
@sr2291
@sr2291 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't incest common among Royalty of most cultures?
@nicolebowman8509
@nicolebowman8509 2 жыл бұрын
You see a lot of this common practice across the nations of the ancient world, with Egypt, pharaoh is believed to a be a living god. Their gods too married with siblings and quite possibly other close relatives sort of a "On Earth as it is in Heaven" concept. The unfortune downfalls of 'mortals' engaging in such a tradition were blood disorders, physical and mental deformities even unintended genetic sterilization do to so much inbreeding. Nefertiti had 6 daughters with Akhenaten, 2 or 3 he married in hopes of producing an heir. Cleopatra was indeed not a native Egyptian but that didn't stop her family from continuing the customs of natives, strongly put her entire family line of rule consists of 3 centuries drowned in incestuous/inbred behavior and bloodshed.
@jimmywilliams4257
@jimmywilliams4257 5 ай бұрын
Bro took no man can love his daughter like a father can way to seriously!
@maidobala
@maidobala 2 жыл бұрын
The longest ruling pharaoh of ancient Egypt, and historical world record of length of reign, was Pepi II
@mintstarmari
@mintstarmari Жыл бұрын
So pharaohs in general we’re horribly inbred. Imagine Yugi’s reaction if Atem showed him his family tree.
@rawtalent1943
@rawtalent1943 Жыл бұрын
This is half information if he had 52 sons and over 140 girls who is their decendants today
@killval849
@killval849 2 жыл бұрын
What's interesting to me is the Ancient Egyptians tried so hard to secure 'afterlife' and whatnot. What they didn't realize is the way in which they would get that would be lol. Like here we are 4 or 5000 years later and because they mummified their dead we are able to better understand the face using computers. Not quite the 'afterlife' they imagined sure, but in a roundabout way it is.
@0therun1t21
@0therun1t21 2 жыл бұрын
This might be a dumb question but anyway, what happens whan a couple from 2 different inbred families breed? Are they more likely to pass on defects from both trees or does it straighten anything out? I suspect the former and it most likely just depends, but I really don't know.
@ukestudio3002
@ukestudio3002 10 ай бұрын
Confusing to me ..like the song "I’m my own grandpa". But thank you for content..
@janpribyla9817
@janpribyla9817 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@chesspiece81
@chesspiece81 2 жыл бұрын
I am not trying to excuse it but I wonder if their mentality was in their eyes "a service to the crown" and less of the sick twisted attraction or perversion that causes most people to rape and molest their children.
@Kyryyn_Lyyh
@Kyryyn_Lyyh 2 жыл бұрын
funny, Ptolemy (one of Alexander’s generals) upon gaining Egypt, started the local custom of rulers marrying family. His soldiers were very put off by this. Funny that the issues of cousin marriage have existed for thousands of years, and even in 300BC~ there were people grossed out by it.
@Kyryyn_Lyyh
@Kyryyn_Lyyh 2 жыл бұрын
I should add that many cultures still practise cousin marriage. Mostly in areas where they don’t understand inbreeding well.
@graceneilitz7661
@graceneilitz7661 8 ай бұрын
Cousin marriage & Sibling (or half sibling) marriage are rather different. First cousin marriage isn’t accepted in many parts of the world today, but used to be very common. Second cousin marriage is generally accepted everywhere. Sibling marriage has not been a very common practice in our recorded history. Mostly having been done among some elites to consolidate wealth & power. Ancient Egyptian and Persian royalty are the two main examples I can think of. I personally find it funny that the marriage code for the area I live in doesn’t take into account adopted family members. So I can marry my legal first cousin because I am not a blood relative.
@Kyryyn_Lyyh
@Kyryyn_Lyyh 8 ай бұрын
@@graceneilitz7661 Its due to inbreeding issues, no one really cares if you marry your Sister-in-Law. Repeatedly marrying 1st cousins will cause issues, just not as severe as direct-relations.
@Propfaqs
@Propfaqs 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt why they named the condom brand…Ramses.
@10hawell
@10hawell 2 жыл бұрын
I know how to speed run Habsburg family tree but you ain't ready for it.
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