The Atlanta Hawks FINESSED The NBA

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6Man

6Man

Күн бұрын

Hes the goat. Dont question it... HES THE GOAT
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@6manYT
@6manYT 2 ай бұрын
Just to make things clear I don’t think Dejounte Murray is a bad player but Dyson Daniels is the goat and I’m not biased at all
@PvtrickH
@PvtrickH 2 ай бұрын
Can’t compare the trade value rn bc dejounte ain’t playing
@MrE_
@MrE_ 2 ай бұрын
@@PvtrickH uh yes you can because injuries are part of the game and are big reasons for a player having a job with an organization or not. Right now it's great for the hawks, we will see if murray plays well and can make up for what he missed
@bigbangbasketball
@bigbangbasketball 2 ай бұрын
Who? 😂
@jlui21
@jlui21 2 ай бұрын
-- As a PELS supporter, you should have made this a year ago so we could have kept Daniels and not take on Dejounte. Thanks.
@ivvv24
@ivvv24 2 ай бұрын
@@MrE_dejounte usually plays a lot of games he isnt injury prone
@tylerplayer1760
@tylerplayer1760 2 ай бұрын
Dejounte Murray went from a hawk tuah pelican
@gbp3616
@gbp3616 2 ай бұрын
😂 I came here to write this
@maps_x
@maps_x 2 ай бұрын
no way he didn't hear it when he said it 😂
@bigbangbasketball
@bigbangbasketball 2 ай бұрын
Lmaoooo we all heard the same thing
@onebigadvocado6376
@onebigadvocado6376 2 ай бұрын
Well played 👏
@johnbrennan8628
@johnbrennan8628 2 ай бұрын
👏👏
@TheTimeouthoops
@TheTimeouthoops 2 ай бұрын
Hawk tuah pelican 😂 😂😂
@6manYT
@6manYT 2 ай бұрын
😭😭
@Leon_Basketball
@Leon_Basketball 2 ай бұрын
😂😂
@Sonnel_James
@Sonnel_James 2 ай бұрын
sounds so right 😂😂😂
@hurricanezaza
@hurricanezaza 2 ай бұрын
hahaha thats crazy
@41NewVAWE
@41NewVAWE 2 ай бұрын
Brother i had to rewind and make sure i didnt fkin misheard that sht
@graysenspangler
@graysenspangler 2 ай бұрын
Hawks fan here, Dyson Daniel’s changed my life💯
@6manYT
@6manYT 2 ай бұрын
Australian here, he changed mine aswell
@timtimbly2433
@timtimbly2433 2 ай бұрын
Yep he is a freak… like Andrei Kirilenko.. Dennis Rodman type…. With Jalen Johnson, Risacher the hawks future is bright…. They still just need a 7 footer defender maybe
@PvtrickH
@PvtrickH 2 ай бұрын
Pelicans Fan I told y’all the trade ain’t looking that bad bc I knew what Dyson can do
@gez4270
@gez4270 2 ай бұрын
Why? Lmao
@Brax_beck
@Brax_beck 2 ай бұрын
Hawks fan here… we still suck
@NBArecap
@NBArecap 2 ай бұрын
I love the trio of Dyson Daniels, Zaccharie Risacher, and Jalen Johnson
@bigbangbasketball
@bigbangbasketball 2 ай бұрын
The perfect trio to bet the under on everytime 🙂‍↔️
@shawtynoikilpeople3905
@shawtynoikilpeople3905 2 ай бұрын
TRAE YOUNG
@orense.n
@orense.n 2 ай бұрын
the Hawks triplets
@Evergarden7186
@Evergarden7186 2 ай бұрын
Year 2 of Zach will be a clone of JJ. 3 players that are capable of filling the stat sheet with pts, rebs, ast, stls and blks. The Hawks only need a legit 2 way Big man and they'll be dangerous.
@gastenwarren4862
@gastenwarren4862 2 ай бұрын
With Trae young and Larry nance… they call them…. The Mixed Militia
@RomnysGonzalez
@RomnysGonzalez 2 ай бұрын
My brain is so rotten. Did they said "Hawk Tua" on the 1st few second? Dyson Daniel + Jalen Johson love that duo for a franchise
@gamingium
@gamingium 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm pretty sure
@EgonCholakian156
@EgonCholakian156 2 ай бұрын
As an Australian Hawks fan. I've been LOVING the season so far, even with the loses
@arcanus5120
@arcanus5120 2 ай бұрын
Quin "Shoot the fucking ball" Snyder giving Dyson free reign to operate against the Cs with Trae out let Dyson see the ball go in. Seeing the ball go in makes the ball go in more. Simple as. Loving it.
@coreydoyle5271
@coreydoyle5271 2 ай бұрын
As an Atlanta native, we appreciate the support. GA sports is on a roll
@Sonnel_James
@Sonnel_James 2 ай бұрын
Tossing those 2 first round picks in there, Pelicans legit fleeced themselves on that trade 😂
@kayonzo4833
@kayonzo4833 2 ай бұрын
I love watching the Hawks this year and he's the biggest reason why.
@6manYT
@6manYT 2 ай бұрын
You know ball Kayonzo so im not surprised
@dukeonwheels
@dukeonwheels 2 ай бұрын
I love Dyson man. Dude cleaned up our defense like a vacuum cleaner. He’s the perfect 2-guard for Trae. And Larry Nance has been a pleasant surprise as well. Did not know he could shoot the 3 ball that well. Hawks definitely got the better end of that deal IMO.
@arcanus5120
@arcanus5120 2 ай бұрын
DJ is what the Pels needed, if they were not so injured it would look like a Hawks favored, but good trade imo. Pels were in the extremely privileged position to have both Herb and Dyson. Prior to this season, if you were to make a bet on one if you wanted to contend right away, you go with Herb. All that being said, when you consider the two picks.... well.... yeah, Hawks won the trade easily. When the Pels are not down 10 players I'm willing to bet they will be a force in the west as well tho. Next year the Pels should be crazy with a healthy and gelled squad.
@MarcSeePhoto
@MarcSeePhoto 2 ай бұрын
The 2 first rounders is what baked the cake… that’s what made it a fleece. Dyson is still on his rookie contract. Go Hawks!
@rawrj
@rawrj 2 ай бұрын
Just FYI Larry Nance is 11-14 from 3 in the last 5 games. The defense isn't always there but offensively he's been an absolute steal as well.
@CoachYIF
@CoachYIF 2 ай бұрын
deflection is an underrated defense.
@arcanus5120
@arcanus5120 2 ай бұрын
7:14 - Just gonna point it out here, Trae Young is taking smarter gambles this year on the defensive end. Predicting the same for Bogi.
@Shepard-D_Rose
@Shepard-D_Rose 2 ай бұрын
Remember when every headline said pelicans fleeced the Hawks... Pepperidge Farm remembers
@jumbokevin
@jumbokevin 2 ай бұрын
Remember when no one on TV even knew who Daniels was? Stephen A Smith and the likes announced the trade as Dejounte Murray for Larry Nance & others ...
@BlackDrac82
@BlackDrac82 2 ай бұрын
​@@jumbokevin because SAS and the like aren't basketball analysts they're media personalities. They make content for casuals to consume.
@charm1566
@charm1566 2 ай бұрын
He's reminding me of young Kawhi's (The Claw) breakout with Spurs. DD already 180'd the Defense and still hasn't fully carved out his offensive spots yet. Alot of untapped potential this season for the Hawks. 6Man you need to dub something Australian for DD. similar to the glove and the claw.
@PedanticPrawn
@PedanticPrawn 2 ай бұрын
i watched dyson in the olympics and made note of his defence as a guard and floaters. good to see they've both translated into the nba. you gotta remember this kids just 21. he could still be 8-9 years away from his prime, scary.
@jmorley72
@jmorley72 2 ай бұрын
Dyson is going to be the reason that the Hawks get a top six seed in the playoffs this year.
@PvtrickH
@PvtrickH 2 ай бұрын
Any Pels Fan knew about Dyson when he learns to score / shoot he could be what Ben Simmons never became
@RobertoDeNegro
@RobertoDeNegro 2 ай бұрын
He's PUTTING PRESSURE!
@Sonnel_James
@Sonnel_James 2 ай бұрын
Won't be long before a Hawks big 3 of Dyson Daniels, Jalen Johnson, and Risacher become a huge problem in the league
@rong8889
@rong8889 2 ай бұрын
Facts brotha
@oshura2506
@oshura2506 Ай бұрын
Bro forgot about Trae
@Urgrossaye
@Urgrossaye 13 күн бұрын
​@oshura2506 its assumed kuz 🎉
@MichealWalou
@MichealWalou 2 ай бұрын
you've won me over. officially on the Dyson Daniels train
@barcenter
@barcenter 2 ай бұрын
Pause
@fmalcom80
@fmalcom80 2 ай бұрын
Hawks fan! bro our young guys look solid
@jemillmilton8257
@jemillmilton8257 2 ай бұрын
Glad you did this video and I hope Dyson sees it. He deserves it! Go hawks!
@KevinKirksey-e2e
@KevinKirksey-e2e 2 ай бұрын
I honestly believe he can be an all star PG in the future.
@ruru1993
@ruru1993 2 ай бұрын
I remember everyone saying we got fleeced lmao
@krazydae
@krazydae 2 ай бұрын
Hawks fan here🖤VC(the vacuum cleaner)VC steals and blocks adds to this team. It makes us play smart basketball when we get those turnovers💯
@krazydae
@krazydae 2 ай бұрын
Please guys
@d1r3wolf8
@d1r3wolf8 2 ай бұрын
With 2 stars injured, Dyson been saving my fantasy team since picking him up the 1st week 😂
@William_Stephens
@William_Stephens 2 ай бұрын
Dyson Daniels is a beast
@KidsAwful
@KidsAwful 2 ай бұрын
Dyson is such a good player definitely DPOY candidate
@camacarzie12
@camacarzie12 2 ай бұрын
As an Aussie and a hawks fan! I just copped that Daniel’s city edition jersey
2 ай бұрын
Dyson the Vacum: He cleans up your trash!
@rayvondorsey3317
@rayvondorsey3317 2 ай бұрын
He might get defensive players of the year and MIP most improved player
@SpringHills47
@SpringHills47 2 ай бұрын
Won the game today, with yes another steal.
@potatosalad3848
@potatosalad3848 2 ай бұрын
Serious candidate for MIP!
@raimarulightning
@raimarulightning 2 ай бұрын
I have an Australian girl living with me, and I can confirm that she loves every single Australian athlete regardless of whether she is aware of them or the sport they play 😂
@tiffanyjackson4025
@tiffanyjackson4025 2 ай бұрын
Dyson Daniels hasn't played 61 games yet in his career, he has to play more games than that to even qualify for the award 😂😂😂😂
@Pasuhdina
@Pasuhdina 2 ай бұрын
Pelicans fan here. Really enjoyed dysons time with us. We all knew he was special.
@Dixon_Cider407
@Dixon_Cider407 2 ай бұрын
Dyson Daniels is what the Hawks wanted Murray to be
@adg9042
@adg9042 2 ай бұрын
hawk tuah pelican
@6manYT
@6manYT 2 ай бұрын
I was going to comment on that but I left it lmao
@adg9042
@adg9042 2 ай бұрын
@@6manYT who ever came up with that is foul 😭
@kenmoody8763
@kenmoody8763 2 ай бұрын
I was the first to accept Dyson Ik what he would be everybody was sad about dj no shade but like I been saying give me a 6”8 defensive player that can pass n score vs a 6”4 pg Trae needs tall players all we missing is a real 7”0 big that’s can really score
@diegoinjapan
@diegoinjapan 2 ай бұрын
Aussie Aussie Aussie!
@omgbunnyy
@omgbunnyy 2 ай бұрын
say that again 😭😭😭
@WhoDat-o1b
@WhoDat-o1b 2 ай бұрын
A Dyson Daniels stan in the wild is crazy.
@Beezyhound
@Beezyhound 2 ай бұрын
Dyson is what Ben Simmons was supposed to be 😢
@PvtrickH
@PvtrickH 2 ай бұрын
Dyson was the second reason after Herb jones why the pelicans defense looked good even without a rim protecter
@BlackDrac82
@BlackDrac82 2 ай бұрын
Who needs a rim protector if your guards can get the ball before opponents get to the rim 😂
@PvtrickH
@PvtrickH 2 ай бұрын
@ yeah bc that’s very common huh some teams just throwing shit to the corners / Paint have you ever watched basketball?
@parkersperry6904
@parkersperry6904 2 ай бұрын
And to think about when this trade happened everybody clowned on the hawks I couldn’t blame them I’m glad he’s good as a hawks fan
@bigzaksnak9998
@bigzaksnak9998 2 ай бұрын
Having Trae young and Jalen Johnson frees up Dyson from an offensive load so he can focus his energy on defense so he can do it all game
@bobbylite1969
@bobbylite1969 2 ай бұрын
The Great Barrier Thief
@pablotskefar2047
@pablotskefar2047 2 ай бұрын
I already nicknamed him the Vacuum Cleaner. I hope it will catch on soon :) Great player with a unique skillset.
@waynshor7073
@waynshor7073 2 ай бұрын
Agree with you ,daniels looks good.We will see at the end of the season if he can hold his standards.New Orleans was unable to develop him.Snyder is doing a good job with the team.
@nycnow811
@nycnow811 2 ай бұрын
His basketball playing style of efficient basketball, it’s crazy I play just like him in real life
@Original_AJC
@Original_AJC 2 ай бұрын
Ppl said Pelicans fleeced us. Said bag of chips we got. Eat they words
@KingPhilip_ULP
@KingPhilip_ULP 2 ай бұрын
Daniels is a defensive demon 😈
@zeroturn7091
@zeroturn7091 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking that there would need to be another rule change, but it looks like defense is finally self correcting. He plays like a free safety almost. Haven’t seen this type of defense from a SG since Alvin Robertson.
@joshualiang5567
@joshualiang5567 2 ай бұрын
imagine if dyson and herb jones were on the same team
@joannlaney1237
@joannlaney1237 2 ай бұрын
D.D knows swiping 😂
@rhettwalker4173
@rhettwalker4173 2 ай бұрын
Damn, dude is quick as hell.
@FollowTheLamb-Rev14
@FollowTheLamb-Rev14 2 ай бұрын
the music at five minutes makes me feel trepidatious, sadness, and weird, like i'm in the movie Flash Gordon
@robinhoodhustsle1356
@robinhoodhustsle1356 26 күн бұрын
Deandre hunter has really looked phenomenal
@_drawkward_
@_drawkward_ 2 ай бұрын
That little push shot made Antawn Jamison a millionaire. I really like seeing that in a guard's repertoire.
@KTBall_fr
@KTBall_fr 2 ай бұрын
Dyson NEXT MIP
@kaii231
@kaii231 2 ай бұрын
Where all the gumps who were clowning the hawks a few months ago about this trade 😂😂😂
@franksterkb891
@franksterkb891 2 ай бұрын
Finally. It's great to be a hawks fan again. Let's go hawks!
@jeremiahholladay8812
@jeremiahholladay8812 2 ай бұрын
Great video man. Dyson and trae backcourt duo gonna be a nightmare soon
@srinivassuresh466
@srinivassuresh466 2 ай бұрын
Damn. I never watch the hawks so i have never heard of him. Gotta keep a look out for him. Love defensive specialists
@DFSSPACE1
@DFSSPACE1 2 ай бұрын
hawks fan,, good analysis.. go hawks
@petert4032
@petert4032 2 ай бұрын
He should have been the no.1 target trade after the Olympics. I was hoping the Lakers GM was paying attention. Turms out only the Hawks GM was on it
@ezramatthew4419
@ezramatthew4419 2 ай бұрын
I want to see him play with Dre and Bogi
@russellbyrnes7215
@russellbyrnes7215 2 ай бұрын
Overheard someone today that he is reminiscent of young Kawhi but transfer Klaws shooting for passing. If he can develop his shot, strength and go to iso moves who knows what the ceiling is.
@ganuwoahh
@ganuwoahh 2 ай бұрын
as a pelican fan, just kill me. please
@jmonsauce
@jmonsauce 2 ай бұрын
The Vegemite Viper!
@ryang7219
@ryang7219 2 ай бұрын
Hawks might go far this season
@fuel20
@fuel20 2 ай бұрын
I hope he can soften up those floaters he's a bit rugged on the touch. He's had some bad shooting nights by quite a few floaters missing. If Hunter (2 way play) and Bogi (shooting) could stay healthy it'd be much better for the teams progression.
@JSPRKL
@JSPRKL 2 ай бұрын
Given they both are from the same area, Thybulle and Daniels do indeed have a good deal of similarities... except Thybulle has no offensive capabilities.
@Jeffrey-k1w
@Jeffrey-k1w 2 ай бұрын
6:56 isnt that malik beasley? hardaway is at the top
@Smart-Towel-RG-400
@Smart-Towel-RG-400 2 ай бұрын
Hawk to a ... Will never sound the same again
@EmmanuelYesudasanwae
@EmmanuelYesudasanwae 2 ай бұрын
as a hawks fan he's what we thought murray would be also the once a secondary creator when trae gets trapped and us a lockdown defender also if the hawks get back our 4 players that are injured out of the 9 man rotation this team could actually make a run against anyone maybe even the celtics
@K1NGELJAYTV
@K1NGELJAYTV 2 ай бұрын
Oh you turned this out fast 😂 nice
@queque5606
@queque5606 2 ай бұрын
He reminds me of PJ Washington but with crazier hands on defense
@charleschuck5875
@charleschuck5875 2 ай бұрын
A GUUUUUAAARRRDDDD😂
@defnotsmoj6760
@defnotsmoj6760 2 ай бұрын
Let me introduce to you the Terror twins, Amen and Tari. Best defensive duo in the NBA
@icebirdmail
@icebirdmail 2 ай бұрын
As a Pelicans fan, I was sad to see Dyson go. I thought he was a young player worth investing in. Wish the Hawks had taken Ingram instead! I could see his potential fit with the Hawks as soon as they trade was made though. His time in New Orleans reminded me a lot of Lonzo Ball - good defender, excellent connector with his passing, iffy three point shot, reluctance to finish through contact. Judging by the number of floater highlights in the video, it seems he still doesn't like attempting layups unless he has a clear path to the basket. Maybe Daniels has levelled up his game this season, but he was only the second best defender on the Pelicans. Because while Dyson and Herb Jones were pretty even as on-ball defenders, Herb Jones was outstanding as on off-ball defender as well, and was one of the principal reasons the Pelicans had a good defence the past couple of years.
@arcanus5120
@arcanus5120 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, pretty sure the Hawks wanted either Herb or Dyson. I remember around the trade deadline that we asked for Herb for DJ and ya'll said no. BI is a great player but Hawks were hesitant after the DJ trade from the Spurs fucked them on backcourt fit for two years. Paying BI would have been hard for us too I think. Made more sense to take a swing on a younger guy we liked like Dyson, Nance as a vet, and two picks that are likely not to be lottery. This vid definitely gets wrong that Dyson's offense has always been there, dude has clearly been in the gym working on it. That being said, Quin "Shoot the fucking ball" Snyder, will not take him out if the shot is not going it. He does way too much for us defensively to justify that, and he makes people shoot regardless. Look at Onyeka and Jalen, those guys shoot the three way better under Quin then they would have under different coaches. Quin will let you miss 4 so you can see 1 go in if it means next game you miss 3 to see 2 go in. Clearly that sort of system with more wiggle room in the East compared to the West helps a lot. Hawks are 6-7, and are the 5 seed. Would be 10 or 11 in the west.
@Beanskiiii
@Beanskiiii 2 ай бұрын
He's this good defensively because he's very intelligent. Intelligence is why Jokic and Doncic are the two best players in the league, and Bron still ballin at 40. Hawks' front office are geniuses, but then again, Atlanta is the home of finessin and scammin lol
@danielwg514
@danielwg514 2 ай бұрын
this guy might be the next kawhi leonard ngl. very similar
@bigbangbasketball
@bigbangbasketball 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for opening my eyes to Dyson Daniels’ existence
@Luuuc
@Luuuc 2 ай бұрын
Come for the Dyson Daniels a.k.a. the Man of Steal, stay for the Hawk Tuah
@KingJaymo2k11
@KingJaymo2k11 2 ай бұрын
The Hawks are ONE scorer away from being a contender…Dyson has been a very welcoming addition but they still lack that consistent scorer to aid Trae on a nightly basis…
@martinsantos814
@martinsantos814 Ай бұрын
Also fiba Asia versus Dyson at mathysse omg
@dinewalton
@dinewalton 2 ай бұрын
DD needs to fix his 3pt shot, but overall, Hawks fans are very happy.
@stjjnr980
@stjjnr980 2 ай бұрын
Dyson been already cleaning up for years...
@Bwell218
@Bwell218 Ай бұрын
Crazy how everyone saying the hawks were the ones that got finessed when this trade first happened.
@TheTeek_chewie
@TheTeek_chewie 2 ай бұрын
Had no interest in the hawks. But my mind is completely changed
@hegeliandianetik2009
@hegeliandianetik2009 2 ай бұрын
Hawks version of William Saliba
@ivvv24
@ivvv24 2 ай бұрын
i think dejounte is gonna be good for the pelicans when he gets back tho
@shinerdrinker9249
@shinerdrinker9249 2 ай бұрын
The hawks were just paying attention when the Spurs did it to them first.
@staticbb
@staticbb 2 ай бұрын
Dysons impact is undeniable. Downright historic..... But if there was a place to improve. It would be on help D. He gives up a lot of open looks helping.
@Beem530
@Beem530 28 күн бұрын
Wemby is best defender 👽
@Jeffrey-k1w
@Jeffrey-k1w 2 ай бұрын
dyson daniels is leading the league in steals, and I'm leading the league in comments made on a 6man video
@6manYT
@6manYT 2 ай бұрын
Yessir hahah
@Chimportant
@Chimportant 2 ай бұрын
hawk tuah pelacin
@jackstern5737
@jackstern5737 2 ай бұрын
Very reactive take, imo gonna age poorlyzx For one, he's a disciple of Herb Jones. Why do people think the pels didn't know his value? He had advanced stats in most metrics last season and managed to lead the nba in deflections for much of the season on smaller volume, essentially a similar rate to this season. He was not afraid of mistakes last year, and is incredibly smart in transition especially. Our offense stagnating hurt him often, and with amore reliably operating scheme especially in the East where only 4 teams sit above .500 and less physicality to contend with. Coupled with a bit more mass on his frame, this is what I expected. In fact, Im kinda disappointed the Hawks aren't increasing his ball handling duties at this point. His only stat that's improved significantly defensively is steal rate, and he has been asked to prioritize that over defensive rebounding or passing in the half-court. With herb in Nola coming off a career year and still a year ahead of Dyson at least (assuming their potential is comparable) Dyson's injury problems (smaller than a good few pels sadly) and the obvious need for starting minutes to take the next step, we leveraged him for a player who in one game (w/ a broken finger nearly half) was able to get 14/8/10 while shooting poorly, and still offered more stability than any other ball handler we have. I always saw this as a win-win trade as long as Dyson reached his potential (on track other than developing PG skills) and injuries didn't impact the long term viability of Dejounte or Dyson (as of yet no serious concern for either, but remains to be seen), and nothing is surprising anyone in New Orleans other than the good timing for Trey to get injured for Dyson's growth. Remember Herb has done this for a few seasons and as your name gets known the more you inevitably become part of the gameplan for the opposition. Look up herb highlights from 21-22 doing things like neutralizing Jokic, Doncic, LeBron, etc both as an on ball defender and helping with his versatility switching. In New Orleans, many players credit this young man for changing their defensive effort and improving their results including Murray, Zion, Jose, Naji Marshall, BI, CJ (less impactfully), and especially Dyson Daniels. Not to disct=reditate his natural ability, which is ridiculous much of the time or the work of Willy Green and other staff (I wish he wasn't head coach. Really seems like he can develop players to a high level (especially on defense) as well as identify (w/ the FO) prospects with good defensive mentalities and skills that will translate to the nba. In Clippers reject Brandon Boston Jr (someone without much game time after 3 years at LAC to prove himself), we already have a new guard who, although not to level of Dyson or herb defensively, is a better shooter from 3 and mid range, may have Dyson beat on the floater, and Is far from a slouch defensively. Imo, he \ may be a better player than Jose already who the Clippers, like most, wouldn't have developed to this exctent. Now we just need to have depth because the other options to replace Zion CJ, Hawkins, Murray, Alvarado, and Herb are not as convincing
@jackstern5737
@jackstern5737 2 ай бұрын
He also has a tendency to play a riskier style than Herb on defense (similarly to Jose Alvarado), which inevitably leads to some insane stats, as it did in Nola last season too. Can we start actually taking note at New Orleans for the talent we identify and polish? Herbs had the same defensive stats for 3 season essentially, but it took a scoring streak to get he media to end up 3rd in DPOY voting. NOBODY FLEECED ANYBODY, he wouldn't be this in New Orleans unless we knew about the injuries of 6 players in the front court when deciding to trade for Murray. Murray has been great and led the league (or 2nd. Him and herb were #1 & #2 in steals last season) while not focusing on defense much, frustrated with the Hawks organization, and more. Herb is still better. And although I hope Im wrong in my implication for this season, Dyson has missed 1/4 of each season since he started to actually play the nba, and for those 2 seasons, DJM has been available more than Dyson has. On paper everything still makes complete sense. Also, how you gonna disrepesect Murray like that??? Fleeced is for attention here, and does not describe the situation but rather a hyperbolic perspective that this creator has adopted (possibly unwittingly) to perform better in the algorithm while Dyson's name is hot. Seen this before, w/ Herbert Keyshawn Jones!
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