How to Apply Fluid Film Undercoating to Protect Frame + Underbody of Truck/Suv

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@4by_yotaguy373 2 жыл бұрын

I've been an automotive tech in Cali for 20 yrs so I don't often see the extensive rust damaged vehicles like they have in other places, but man when we do it's truly a dreadful sight ☹️. This FF undercarriage coating you did here is one of the best ideas anyone who lives in those parts can do. Honestly this will prevent all the cancerous rot damage all those salty snow covered places are known for. Do it people!!!!! 🙏

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

We love working on vehicles from your region. Jobs don't multiply in time due to snapped rusty bolts. I had a 1 hr job turn into a 4 hr job last weekend thanks to a rusty bolt.

@LostandFoundTravel 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah - our rigs practically melt in the midwest.

@Tc-ev9dd Жыл бұрын

Stuff wears off constantly l. I just Ziebart get rust proofing and undercoat and go in for my warranty inspections every year

@mr.tactown.253 Ай бұрын

@@Tc-ev9ddwarranty inspections from the dealer? Are those free or do you have to pay for them? Also when you say you undercoat are you referring to fluid film or similar kind product or the cancerous rubber coating that will actually cause your vehicle to rust more then it would have with no protection applied whatsoever? If its the rubber coating then DO NOT USE IT

@929cbr_rr 2 жыл бұрын

FF works well. I use it annually on my Nissan truck, now 16 years old. The spray gun I use is called "TCP global air and rustproofing gun" (amazon) and comes with a 22" wand ( like the the one for the aerosol cans ). It works well for getting in frames, etc, but it's a little large in dia to get in tight places. So, like you, I also use some aerosol cans.

@johnkim3658 3 ай бұрын

I heard it stays wet all year. how would a mechanic work under there with all that gunk

@DEADIKATED 3 ай бұрын

Wat about the bottom of bed and wheel wells can I use a paint brush?

@929cbr_rr 3 ай бұрын

@@DEADIKATED Sure. It's gonna take you a while though.

@DEADIKATED 3 ай бұрын

@@929cbr_rr ok only reason I say is bc it’s in my garage on jack stands and idk how I could spray if I’m on a creeper

@Ghostrider-71 Жыл бұрын

I just ordered the 6 pack, plus the wand off of Amazon, very helpful video, thank you for posting!

@dannym5865 2 жыл бұрын

So FYI to anybody thinking about spraying outside in colder Temps: as in 25F-30F. It CAN be done but I suggest you have the gallon or bucket of fluid film inside a warmed room during refills with the sprayer. I diluted the amount of fluid film by 10% with canola oil to stop the undercoating gun from spitting/sputtering in the cold. I used more conola oil when using a multi-directional spraying wand for inside the frame, as those smaller wand tip holes are much easier to clog up than the undercoating guns own nozzle.

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Great advice, thanks!

@mzee5533 2 жыл бұрын

I will do this in my next JDM. Up here in Alberta Canada 🇨🇦 salt is used 24/7 during winter

@1mzfe 2 жыл бұрын

The salt and rust in Alberta is nothing compared to here in Nova Scotia.

@JT-tz5hp Ай бұрын

@@1mzfe Newfoundland has entered the chat......

@elizle Ай бұрын

Great old Toyota content. I just got a 1992 Land Cruiser that only has some minor surface rust. That's rare for Indiana. Need to keep it that way.

@6thGearGarage Ай бұрын

Awesome! It's always hard to find a clean one, especially in the midwest. Fluid Film asap!

@explorer8888 9 ай бұрын

Great video! How many PSI on the compressor?

@6thGearGarage 9 ай бұрын

On the gun I used, I think it was about 40 psi

@shannonshull6989 11 ай бұрын

Great video, Ive been using fluid film for 5 year, works great, just irritating when people dont do it when the vehicle is brand new when its MOST IMPORTANT. Esp in the stupid salt belt of OHIO. I use natural tan color for inner body and the BLACK fluid film for frames and undercarriage, looks way better in the end. BTW, youre a brave man doing that in your garage! That floor turned into an ice rink once that overspray fell. I'll only spray my undercarriage out in the field when its nice out, learn how much a mess it makes the first time.

@6thGearGarage 11 ай бұрын

You're 100% correct - brand new is the best time to start applying before every winter. I had an Acura that I sprayed before every winter, but during the 6 years it was previously owned before me, it was never sprayed and it still ended up getting rusty - although i'm sure still less than if I never sprayed it at all. The overspray isn't too bad, but it does get a little slick! The smell sure hangs around the garage for a while though.

@shannonshull6989 11 ай бұрын

@@6thGearGarage Yeah, that Fluid film stank! lol

@steve8803 Ай бұрын

According to Krown in Canada, the best time to spray rustproofing is in the spring because when the weather heats up is when the corrosion process is much more active.

@6thGearGarage Ай бұрын

I've never used Krown, but Fluid Film recommends to apply before winter. If applied in spring, a lot of it would wash off before the time the salt is on the roads. I'm guessing the two products have different formulas.

@mr.tactown.253 Ай бұрын

So would now be the perfect time to apply fluid film to my 2024 mazda cx-5? Also any advice on what i should spray or shouldnt spray other then trying to avoid parts made out of rubber, also any idea if theres a way to get to the frame without having to lift the vehicle and taking off all the under carriage under body panels they attached to the car?

@mr.tactown.253 Ай бұрын

@@6thGearGarageI think there's like 5 or 6 total that pretty much covers the majority of the underside and would fluid film even be needed in this case? Im from Washington and it rains a lot here, snows sometimes, the roads haven't been covered much with salt in the past or a high concentration but I've heard they are starting to experiment with different blends of whatever it is they use and salt is going to be added to the mix now which is definitely going to suck for anyone not prepared or aware of the problems that will be caused to a vehicle which is driven on roads covered in salt

@6thGearGarage Ай бұрын

@@mr.tactown.253 I'm not familiar with the underside of a 2024 mazda cx-5, but you'll want to lift the vehicle for sure to get under it and coat everywhere. Also it's probably a unibody, not frame, but still spray in every hole and seam.

@6thGearGarage Ай бұрын

@@mr.tactown.253 That brine solution that they spray onto the roads is much more corrosive than road salt. I'd pull the panels off, spray behind them, and re-install the panels. The fluid film should last a lot longer behind those panels. be sure to get all the seams and pinch welds around the body too. Newer cars with all the plastic cladding don't show rust problems until it's way too late.

@clayton203 2 жыл бұрын

Done this, works very good, 11/2 years since I did it the first time, Gona do it again soon

@turboomni848 2 ай бұрын

Good work and I use it myself. Nice 1994 Land cruiser from Japan! Fluid film it and do Not drive it in the winter. Drive a beater in the winter.

@6thGearGarage 2 ай бұрын

I ended up getting a beater Honda for winter.

@dannym5865 2 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna try to undercoat my pick up truck with fluid film within the next two weeks in 30f to 40f weather. Got the undercoating gun and compressor ready, haven't tested the gun yet. Hopefully I should be still be able to spray the fluid film evenly if I just keep the gallon of fluid film inside the house at room temperature for refills. Clogging is a problem at cold temperatures for other sprays/paints but I read fluid film is more forgiving of cold applications.

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I've found that it does get a little thicker at cooler/cold temps. Sometimes when I'm spraying and the gun starts to get low about half way through and stops working, I just tap the bottom on the floor and the fluid film moves to the bottom and starts spraying again

@erichimes3062 Жыл бұрын

I go full-retard with fluid film every fall before the salt flies in northern Indiana

@tomstarcevich1147 Жыл бұрын

Me too ✋️ 🛻🛻🛻

@ralphcintron6195 3 ай бұрын

didnt know this existed. alerted when i bought my rad rubber engine splash guards i wish i would have known back then although my 4 runner is still holding up i will apply to certain areas

@6thGearGarage 3 ай бұрын

As they say… Better late than never👍

@ralphcintron6195 3 ай бұрын

Can this applied to the intake manifold on the side of the engine by the catalytic converter that has rusted a bit

@ralphcintron6195 3 ай бұрын

Can this be applied to heat

@6thGearGarage 3 ай бұрын

@@ralphcintron6195 if it gets on the exhaust, it will burn off.

@6thGearGarage 3 ай бұрын

@@ralphcintron6195 no, it will burn off on the first long drive.

@1mzfe 2 жыл бұрын

I use Rust Check myself which is very similar to both Fluid Film and Krown.

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't tried it before, I'll check it out!

@mxpants4884 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a new mechanic (went back to school during the pandemic for a new career), so I have access to a lift, a compressor, the detail shop's cleaning equipment as well as an industrial floor scrubber for the aftermath. I'm in Ohio and with my folks getting older and consciously trying to pile up less stuff the idea of fluid filming the family's cars as a Christmas present is looking pretty good. They're definitely not going to be *new*, but I'm wondering if you have any additional thoughts on treating cars with existing (non-structural) rust, and clearing out any existing salt buildup. Am I nuts to think I can just stick a pressure washer and compressed air in the frame holes and then fluid film once it's dry? Apologies if you already have a video on this, let me know what the title is if so.

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Fluid film over existing rust will help to slow it down. You're absolutely right, power washing the inside of the frame and fluid filming after it's completely dry is a good idea. However, if the frames are anything like the frames of my old toyotas, the inside of the frame will have debris too large to blast out with a pressure washer and compressed air. Here's a video showing the amount of rust and debris on the inside of a frame:kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJyuqXx7hbCId7M start watching around the 5:00 mark and feel hopeless about ever driving anything nice year around in Ohio.

@GleepGlop2 2 жыл бұрын

Really well done - I just did my underbody with FF, I almost bought the 360 nozzle but it seemed overpriced, but that thing looks worth it. I'm probably going to pay to have my car undersprayed each year going forward, but I might pick up one of those nozzles. Incidentally the one you linked is "unavailable" now.

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

It's still well worth it to pay to have it done. Most places around here will do it for $100. I bet they're sold out of nozzles because it's fluid film season... I'll see if I can find another one to link. Thanks!

@holdenc3082 8 ай бұрын

Good video. I just wonder how this works if you do beach driving? I would think all that beach sand would stick to all that oil and make a real mess. Then how to clean it all off? I imagine high pressure water would take the Fluid Film off?

@6thGearGarage 8 ай бұрын

Great point... sand would absolutely stick to it. At that point, I think a pressure washer would be the best way to clean it off.

@on-site4094 Жыл бұрын

That’s a great job saving one Toyota @ a time. 👍. Didn’t fluid film come up with a black coloured fluid film

@6thGearGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks! They do have a black one now, but I haven't tried it yet.

@pirtatejoe 7 ай бұрын

When spraying it in bulk (buying the gallon+ cans) with any of these type of products, just add graphite powder to it and mix it in if you want it black.

@QAVI007 5 ай бұрын

can I use Drucksprüher mit Fassungsvermögen 5 Liter (RP PUMP made for garden spraying) for spraying fluid film because 1- I do not have a professional compressor 2- I do not have electricity in the parking I would really appreciate a solution in while I can use some portable spraying gun to apply fluid film in the open space parking I have before upcoming winters

@6thGearGarage 5 ай бұрын

I think the Fluid Film will be too thick for most garden sprayers and would probably clog the nozzle. You would need more pressure.

@andyl9920 3 ай бұрын

I sprayed fluid film inside my doors and in the hot sun it stinks whenever i get in my car, yuck. Did u experience this? Can it be washed? I live in the midwest and we get a lot of snow and salt. Should it be washed during the winter season at all?

@6thGearGarage 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, the smell went away after a few days. The FF washes off easier after it is applied. After dirt and dust sticks to it, it becomes more resilient. Not really any need to wash during the winter, but in the spring when there is no more salt on the road I give the underside a good wash.

@andyl9920 3 ай бұрын

@@6thGearGarage sadly its been over a month and my car still stinks. Must be something else

@totalnoobfishing1753 26 күн бұрын

What size air compressor and what psi was used if I may ask?

@6thGearGarage 26 күн бұрын

My compressor is 30 gal and I was probably at about 50 psi..

@TJEgan-pu3to 3 ай бұрын

Excellent video. How is Fluid Film to clean up from the vehicle, as far as overspray on the shiny side?

@6thGearGarage 3 ай бұрын

@@TJEgan-pu3to it wipes right off with a towel. If left on the paint, dirt will collect on the fluid film over time and look dirty.

@justinramkhelawan5575 2 жыл бұрын

You seem to be as OCD as i am. I would first use CRC Marine Heavy Duty, let it dry for a day then hit it with the fluid film. Fluid film is definitely better for the inside of the frame. But after looking at project farm’s video I swear by CRC. I was looking on Patrsouq and it appears they sell brand new frames for certain models. I may buy a frame for my toyota hilux N70 and just keep it in storage. Before I undercoat i do a THOROUGH under wash then wipe EVERYWHERE with rubbing alcohol for best adhesion

@唐瀚-n5q 2 ай бұрын

If I live in a place like Portland or Seattle, should I do the same film or just pressure wash the frame more often?

@6thGearGarage 2 ай бұрын

I'd at least get the inside of the frame with Fluid Film, after pressure washing all of the mud/debris out first. The inside is where the rust sneaks up on you because you can't see it.

@Richardharrison11947 10 ай бұрын

Wonderful video!!!

@6thGearGarage 10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@benthompson919 Жыл бұрын

Looks great. What do you do before to prepare the underbody ? Remove surface rust and a rinse? Wait to dry ?

@6thGearGarage Жыл бұрын

If there is any heavy rust to the point of flaking off, it should be removed first. Putting fluid film over light surface rust is actually a perfect use of the product. I would dash off any mud or heavy dirt and then just make sure the surface is dry before application.

@jstutz101 Жыл бұрын

Have you tried Fluid Film Black? I’ve been using that the last couple years, looks nice!

@6thGearGarage Жыл бұрын

I haven’t tried it yet, but it looks good!

@AlejoKCPro 5 ай бұрын

I just wire sanded the entire frame of my truck and applied rust converter..... I want to paint it with frame paint to make it look nice and then apply fuel film.. what do you recommend? or should I just leave it like that and apply fuel film?

@6thGearGarage 5 ай бұрын

You could go with a por15 or similar type of product which is designed to go over light surface rust. Or if the metal is ground down to be perfectly clean, go with a DTM primer and follow with a black 2k paint. I used a por15 alternative on a truck frame last summer kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ6pqWmFitxqjtEsi=eHRPsHXyN19tO6kV and then sprayed the inside of frame with fluid film

@hiltonray4461 2 жыл бұрын

My son just bought an 88 toyota truck 4x4 xcab, bed has usual rust, but he didnt check the frame, man its got holes all over ! Thinking i might try to repair it , he just wants to sell lol

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that... Depending on your location, I'd shop around for a frame or a decent parts truck.

@mikosbaker1257 7 ай бұрын

The wand in the description is wool wax. Does that wand work for the fluid film?

@6thGearGarage 7 ай бұрын

It looks like the seller changed the description, thanks for letting me know. Here is one for Fluid Film cans: amzn.to/4dVOgsy

@b18c5turbogt35r 3 ай бұрын

do i need to clean the area before apply

@6thGearGarage 3 ай бұрын

@@b18c5turbogt35r normal dirt from the road is ok, but not mud. If you do clean, make sure it’s all the way dry before applying. 👍

@billtimmer2462 2 жыл бұрын

what kind of air compressor is needed for this job?

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I have an old 20 gal DeVilbiss that works great for this

@ChiNguyen-wf1qt 5 ай бұрын

In maine vehicle undercoat with FF will not pass inspection

@6thGearGarage 5 ай бұрын

Why is that? Does that apply to all coatings that help prevent rust?

@ChiNguyen-wf1qt 5 ай бұрын

Nope just these crook garage that how they operate. They won't pass my truck because I use FF

@billtimmer2462 2 жыл бұрын

Also, how much product did you use on 1 truck (not counting the aerosol)

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Half of one gallon is plenty for one truck.

@foxgdsmck Жыл бұрын

can you paint over this coating?

@6thGearGarage Жыл бұрын

Not at all, it would be like applying paint over an oily surface.

@timbui5556 8 ай бұрын

Great video. Thank you

@bbs5400 Жыл бұрын

Seems like the aerosol cans are actually significantly cheaper for most people. I don't own an air compressor, the nozzle, or a respirator, so the cans are only $10.48 a piece, so total $104.80 for 10 cans, which is more than enough. Some people say 6-8 cans, so $62.88-$83.84. Some people even say 4 cans, which is $41.92. Versus all of this, $43 for the gallon of fluid film, $62.50 for the spray gun, and that's already more, without even adding the air compressor. I sprayed 2 cans today, and yes, it was a pain in the ass holding down that nozzle, it wasn't easy. And It was harder to get in the awkward places. But 2 cans and I'd already say I got 95% of it. I think I'll do at least1, maybe 2 more cans just to really get a layer on it before winter, probably in October, unless we get snow early this year. Great video though, very helpful, and very helpful in knowing what to spray. Like near the brakes, I did, but was a little worried about doing that. And you let me know that I shouldn't have sprayed the exhaust lol idk why I did that, I saw rust, so I sprayed. Didn't even think about how it'll just burn off anyways. And good to know I can spray the whole CV joint area and suspension. Last year, I had a Ford Focus, and the wheel fell off while I was driving because it rusted off. Don't ever want that to happen again, especially not with my expensive truck. 2014 truck, so there's already a bit of rust. Next year I'll get a sander and get rid of all of the rust

@6thGearGarage Жыл бұрын

If you don't own a compressor, aerosol is the way to go. I do multiple vehicles every year and already own a compressor, so the gun made sense for me. Either route is worth it compared to having to deal with rust. If you're buying a lot of aerosol cans, you can find better deals buying them by the case.

@xilbus Жыл бұрын

Do you wash the frame before applying? I never wash under my truck from fear of causing rust to start.

@6thGearGarage Жыл бұрын

I did not, but if there is any dried mud, I'd wash it first. Just give it plenty of time to dry completely before spraying.

@cleanmaxexteriorpowerwashing Жыл бұрын

Have you applied fluid film on top of rubberized undercoating ?

@6thGearGarage Жыл бұрын

Only if it was already there from the factory. I avoid spray-on rubberized undercoating because if a rock chip penetrates the coating, salt will enter the pinhole and start rusting behind the undercoating, continuing to spread.

@johnkim3658 3 ай бұрын

I heard this stays wet how can mechanics fix anything if the whole undercarriage is wet?

@6thGearGarage 3 ай бұрын

It’s like having an oil leak, so yeah it’s messy to repair…. But everything’s not rusted together so it’s a fair trade.

@kimbuck-2 Ай бұрын

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@dillonwells5649 7 ай бұрын

It broke my sprayer lol wouldn’t even spray

@رررا-ز3ل 2 жыл бұрын

Why dont you buy a classic car as a project

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I actually have a classic truck lined up for my next project. Well, classic to someone my age. I’d love a 1953 F100, but they’re far beyond my price range ;)

@4by_yotaguy373 2 жыл бұрын

When you showed the footage at the very beginning of the Swiss cheese rotten framed automotive abominations my heart dropped into my stomach I got that same feeling like on a roller coaster before you puke 🤢

@6thGearGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly, it's a regular sight around here. I just checked the frame yesterday on another cheap Yota I picked up and the hammer went right through the bottom :( Parts truck it is...